1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Loka Tora Radio is a radiophonic novella. 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Which is just a very extra way of saying a podcast. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm diosa m and I am Mala Munjos. Lokatra Radio 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: is yr Brima's favorite podcast, hosted by us Mala and Viosa. 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: We're two ig friends turned podcast partners, breaking down pop culture, feminism, 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: sexual wellness, and offering fresh takes on trending topics through 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: nuanced interviews with up and coming LATINX creatives. 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Known as Las Lokatas, Las Mammis of Myth and Bullshit 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and Las Borgas Prosas. We were podcasting independently since twenty sixteen, 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: but joined iHeartMedia's Microtura network in twenty twenty two. 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: This year, we're continuing to share stories from the LATINX community. 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Barto el Mundo, Welcome to season eight. 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Are you listening? 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: O La la Loka Motives, Welcome to season eight of 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Loka Dora Radio. 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm the Osa and I'm Ala. 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: You're tuning in to Capitols one eighty two. 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Last time on loc A Thota Radio, we celebrated our 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: seven year lookaversary with an anniversary episode. Go ahead, tune 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: into that episode, Subscribe to look at Thought our radio, 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: leave us a review and share with a friend. 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: So for today's episode, we are going to be talking 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: to a Bogota based music ensemble called Monsieur Erne, and 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to them because one they're in 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: La this week, but also we thought it would be 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: a good way to continue the conversation about art and 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: activism here at Loka Dora. We've been having these conversations 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: since our inception, and we've interviewed musicians that write music 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and create art that center activism, like Ele and Anatiju. 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: So you can listen to those past episodes. I will 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: link them in show notes. And we've also talked to 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: other incredible artists and activists over the years that aren't 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: musicians but are in the arts field. 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: We've also interviewed Katalina of Reggaeton La Gata. She of 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: course centers history and activism, centering the African diaspora in 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 2: her music, criticism, and writing and producing work. So yeah, 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: go back, and we've been interviewing all kinds of people 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: for many, many years now, and it's really fun to 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: see where they were when we interviewed them with their 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: art and their activism and where they are now years later. 41 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: More about Monsieur Perne. They are a Bogota based music 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: group from Colombia with an Afro Colombia with an Afro 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Colombian sound that mixes Latin and European flavors. And their 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: lead singer, Catalina is in La this week and she's 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: actually set to perform with the La Philharmonic for an 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: event titled Ganto and Resistencia. The group is also nominated 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: for two Latin Grammys this year, and we're going to 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: be talking all about their new album today. So we're 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: so excited to be joined by Catalina Garcia and we're 50 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about her latest album. It's nominated for 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: two line Grammys. 52 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: So welcome, thank you. 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm super happy to be here in La. And yeah, 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: we have this new album that it's called I know 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: that it's really a tricky word because yeah, it's it's 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: hard to accept that we are leaving the ap right. 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you more about that because 58 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we think like the apocalypse is like 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: yet to come, but then we're like, oh no, we're 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: living it. 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: How we are? 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me more about the name and the 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: inspo behind it. 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: So we started writing this album without knowing that it 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: was going to be, you know, like a full concept album. 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: We didn't know. 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: We started just writing songs before Pandemic. 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: So it was twenty nineteen. We were in a really 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: rough tour. 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: We did I don't know, like more than one hundred 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: shows twenty nineteen. 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: It was a very tiring year. 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: But whenever we had some time to you know, like 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: to chill and to relax, we tried to create songs. 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: And that's how it started, you know, this new album. Yeah, 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: like Intentions. And then twenty twenty Pandemia and everything changed 77 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: for musicians, especially because I think we were like the 78 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: last the lastest latest that went back to work, so 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: we had to wait too. 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: Much and everything changed. 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: We were all the time, like touring, going all around 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: the world, and suddenly that wasn't happening anymore. So we 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: use our studio and you know, like this time to 84 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: be I don't know, like connected to two more Slow. 85 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 3: Way to Live. It was beautiful. 86 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: It was like a huge present for us, even if 87 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: it was rough time for everyone in the whole world. 88 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: I think music hells, you know, has that power to 89 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: heal to connect. And I think what we feared the 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: most were the disconnection between humans when when we were 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: in pandemia. So we decided to you know, like reunite 92 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: just Santiaguan, me and my partner, like in the studio 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 4: and start exploring again without planning too much where you know, 94 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: where the music was going to get and how it 95 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: was going to sound. More like being connected to our 96 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: intuition of course, to all the music that we were 97 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: listening and you know, like being inspired by and of 98 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: course we we were not expecting anything, just like having 99 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: fun and you know, like embracing the fact that we 100 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: could create in a really rough time. 101 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: It was so special. 102 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: And in Colombia we were living not just pandemia, but 103 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 4: like a huge massive social explosion, you know. 104 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: Like people. 105 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: We were not happy with what was going on in 106 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: like with the government and all the political you know, 107 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: like shit, I'm sorry for the word. 108 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: That's great, that's correct. 109 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of corruption, a lot of inequalities, Like 110 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: we can see it all around the world. You know, 111 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, humans are full of hate and and 112 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: I don't like disconnected. I think we are disconnected to 113 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: our true nature. And I think artists. 114 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: We can have another I don't know, another. 115 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: Energy, you know, another capacity to I don't know, to 116 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: make like a big healing process with ourselves of course, 117 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: but for the people also. We could realize in pandemic 118 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: how powerful this art for our you know, day by 119 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: day living, and that's how we found Boletto Apocalyptico. You know, 120 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: it's like to survive through this rough times, you have 121 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: to love and you have to learn how to love 122 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: yourself and of course love everything that you do the 123 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: people that is around you. And it's not very easy 124 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: to understand what is love. You know, it's it's not 125 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: just being happy, and but you have to be courageous, 126 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: you know, like versa accept so mirol morenois. 127 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: Felie. 128 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: And that's why Apocalyptico, because you know, we are living 129 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: a moment where all the values that we had before 130 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: are not working anymore. We're learning trying to learn how to, 131 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: you know, to survive. 132 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: It's hard. 133 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: Whenever you touch the screen it's like, oh my god, 134 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to live in this world so far. 135 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm so curious about the way that making the album 136 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 2: during the pandemic influenced the sound. Does it sound apocalyptic. 137 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: Does it sound like a pandemic album? 138 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: I think so. I don't know. I think we had 139 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: a lot of time. 140 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: We never had so much time to create an album. Never, 141 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: it's like we're all time touring. So this this time 142 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: for this album, we were at home, you know, quiet, 143 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: no people from our I don't know, like our. 144 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: Team or no. 145 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: People from the sketa anywhere, like, no friends, just the 146 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: two of us looking at each other, you know, like 147 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: going inside of you know, going deep. I too to 148 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: find also like something smooth, like the contrast of what 149 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: we were living. It was okay, let's have fun, you know, 150 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: making music. 151 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: Let's have fun. 152 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: We cannot go out, we cannot see our friends anything. 153 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: It's like so hard, let's have fun with music. And 154 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: I think that was very important. So it has this 155 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: mood of, you know, trying. 156 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: To to. 157 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: Recoupeartas on deliver Tab the connection, the gos So, the Circania, 158 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 4: the Intimidad and momento styles come on karaerke Experanza. It 159 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: was okay, internal experanza, know this suta intens communist a ittsesteticamente. 160 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: Also we were exploring with instruments that we were not 161 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: exploring before, like the sound. 162 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: It's kind of. 163 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: Symbiosis, like this machine human machine. 164 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: Tension all the time, you know, like. 165 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: Because we are I don't know, it's we are losing 166 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: our nature, our you know, like kind of freedom because 167 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: we're all the time connected to those apparatos like phones 168 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: and everything, like all the time, like all the time. 169 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: So it's like let's come. 170 00:11:49,000 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: On and P and L disco makin a restruction the 171 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: stri muchoo amost all for Manaloga that's truemos a questoria 172 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: more distinct Como Una and different and jpends have muccho 173 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: momental processor that sly am harden times harden and in 174 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: the studio studio is sally a mutual hard case will 175 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: be a common at Ira Mucho Las plants I commo 176 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 4: plants cris and TLAs greatas colors Una versa depends on 177 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: and inessa sa and and the moment does it del 178 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: apocalyptico come on and is that massive destruction? 179 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: We have love to survive, you know absolutely, And I 180 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: think you know, when I was listening to the album, 181 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: I thought like, not only is it about love? And 182 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: how do you think love can play a part of 183 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: political movements or even like you mentioned how can that 184 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: feel us? And how can art feel us? 185 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 186 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: I think like when when you have to go through 187 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: hard experiences is when you learn how to know yourself 188 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: more than when you are happy. You know, happiness is 189 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:59,479 Speaker 4: just uh smooth, and you know likesnasona la felicias. 190 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: As soon as stado came escumo. 191 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: Lineal la school constas and foul constas, fust constas, triste 192 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: stamento U the jna cosa, the mont rs, the mirror, 193 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: Eski palentro, la felicie, los felicia eristesa grand lugard, the 194 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: the the prendisai. It came came de larte much personas 195 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: no solo las crean. You know, let's receiving supposibly the 196 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: encounterra una Formama's uman, the transformer deficialists. It's it's span 197 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:18,479 Speaker 4: amas deficialists and noela's opportunias. Nos caminos pil save the transformers. 198 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: There is the low profundo, Larte is fundamental social mucho 199 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: mas is much and socialist and las be vimos constantinente. 200 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: Gan testcoes and yeah, al. 201 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: Alfaltapportunia is alacr j so the Columbia opportunias, the t 202 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: in musica, har pars, the territorial, eco, particular projectors, localists, 203 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: the musicas andero, the musica, the is, the musica. 204 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: And Lohan difficulties. 205 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: Say look significant para on a persona tenor, instrumental in 206 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: on arma ems. 207 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: Are embed of the hacks, expander and el romano. 208 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: So art is so powerful, you know, and for us 209 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: it's like we are very committed with what we do 210 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: through the music, and you know, we love to to 211 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: have this opportunity and you know, I don't know, I 212 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: think it's a huge gift. 213 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: To be on the side of the story. 214 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: You know. I'm super serious about process and when you 215 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: when you two sit down to write a song or 216 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: put the album together, how do you divide up the 217 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: songwriting and the production and who does what? 218 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so Santi is. 219 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: I think it's more like the producer of everything that 220 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: we do, like the music in the music side, he 221 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: has more this producer head and way to work. He 222 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: loves to write all the arrangements and he's very helo 223 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: l T and posta asciendo musica Trajian instrumental explorando lot 224 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: different test on you instrumental Sue Studios, special is record, 225 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: el mundo a traves instrumental per our dna muchos, the lauds, 226 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: the stinta epocas because our sounds start like from acoustic 227 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: sound and and then like real sound is not just machines, 228 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: so it has to be played by by a person, 229 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: and you know it's like Tavia Auna grand differencia and 230 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: Loki sientees port loci, sientees guando escuchas aest interprets. 231 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: Temple, Superman de le ro. 232 00:18:52,600 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 4: Anti production, pesto parti, lamosamo camos, referentes, a s moscurs 233 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: ax lest scuchamos, nauchamos tenamous busy as ottalment riqueesecratio, the 234 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: milo mis la lettra I commo po c l como 235 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: comestruum concepto, como elartos, concepto u berlos. 236 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: Ilartos, his stories. 237 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 4: And concepto Jimmy cla mas coment conversation, visual compania, ell 238 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 4: vers thses, referentees, lass story as los, video clips, las 239 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: directories and lastica ilas letras, santi scree p jo pom 240 00:19:52,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: and masco and la parte musical loss composamoscamos, Yeah, I 241 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: was estambian is important and La Latinsion is poosa Canaja 242 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 4: Gaga is sally Forencia. 243 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: So I was casa kosake. 244 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 4: Par in como tameno gustatao ands. 245 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: Amos kazakin sanos. 246 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, the conflict can help you grow separately and together 247 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: right as artists and how you create something. Yeah, I 248 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about one of one of my 249 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: favorite songs from the album is Kumbia Valiente and we've 250 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: actually had anati ju in the past as a guest, 251 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and so I wanted to talk to ask you more 252 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: about that collaboration. The song Resistencia evalo tell me more 253 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: about its creation. 254 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: See, so it was twenty twenty and not just pandemia, 255 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 4: but also like massive social I don't know, like yeah, explosion, 256 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't know how to say it, but yeah, explosion 257 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: in Colombia and also in different countries in Latin America, 258 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: as Chile, also Argentina, everywhere. You know, like if you see, 259 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: the world is full of problems, and we were living 260 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 4: in my country of really difficult times, a lot of fear, 261 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: a lot of tension, violence on the streets. People were 262 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: absolutely tired to be living as we were living, and 263 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: you know, like all the massive corruption. So every body 264 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: was on the streets, everyone like a lot of young 265 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 4: people and and you know, like persecuted by police, and 266 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: you know it was very hard. I live in downtown 267 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: and I had to to leave, you know, to be 268 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: running on the streets and trying to get to my 269 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: house and trying to help my friends that were you know, 270 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: like just in the protestas normal mentem cor rai porke 271 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: and last the policea stand mandando stars yaman gasmo renos 272 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: just bombasket move take a gases causes the difficult respiration, 273 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: the point, the point last. 274 00:22:49,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: And Paris, los artistas, the cemos and Chile como. 275 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: Protest us bien doo como artists, different hens in port 276 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 4: Final in port Yahn, especially the Resistancia and la Kay 277 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: especially neutros, the resistencia for calafnal. 278 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: Els notici and coms. 279 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: If we have party political relakmas pasi the hena your 280 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: supporting comingo politico that transformation cambio and the SMOs cremos 281 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: espasi simus for some mo grande para. 282 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: Como darle was dosto corendo. 283 00:23:51,800 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: Artistas and different est parties yams commos ya ya ya samos. 284 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: Coke prolement and appropria. I mean NASAs buenatos and. 285 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: Says lad schedule stram triste como frustration in sag and 286 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: and corason come on the consulo toses consanti vimos para 287 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: and plito Kea and later Colombia you know, and ramos 288 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: and and and nakasas create musica strata musica thamos com 289 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: we know sam and tempt medici yes if ke Nazi 290 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: Cumbia alike canto speranza Perotamian. 291 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: It's common manifesto. 292 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: Loves Cumbia commos media cultural mais compartmental toil continent pas 293 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: called Cumbia and males personas n Latin America. Compartos is 294 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: a media cultural case. Noestra fersa then rises in dinas 295 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: case cars is still at las influenzias de la musica 296 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: al mundos transformation and the estra porta Argentina os de 297 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: North Mexico, Cumbia and quisse the spiritual concise in Baran 298 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: t super ke es posto like columb post consulucha coz 299 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: contexto consue on the levels. 300 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: It is really a problems. More important. 301 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: The con no sola and Mundo in spirit music, our 302 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: mean spirato parties, the continent creat Esposi and akm be alian. 303 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: I love that. 304 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Given given all the political and social turmoil, do you 305 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: ever get nervous about putting out music that addresses the 306 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: those issues? Do you ever fear like censorship or negative reactions? 307 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: I think I don't fear that. 308 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: I know that that maybe that's gonna happen, because people 309 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 4: is full of fear of you know, like everything, So 310 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: whenever something is powerful, they fear and they have to 311 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, to bullying and you know, bad comments, and 312 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: sometimes it's like, oh but this is not gonna be 313 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: you know, like commercial, mainstream whatever. 314 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: I don't care. 315 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: I am not an artist because I because I'm gonna 316 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: make money. Of course, if my music goes and people 317 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: like it and people want to comment and see my 318 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: show and. 319 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 3: Buy what I do, thank you. Of course. 320 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: I love to to to work and I put all 321 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: my love in what I do. But I am not 322 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: an artist because I'm gonna get money, you know, I 323 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: don't care. I need to speak for myself and I 324 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: need to transform myself, and I found art to make it. 325 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I wanted to ask you about Columbia and 326 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: it's musical traditions, and it seems like there's a lot 327 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: of artists coming out of Columbia that are maybe hitting 328 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: like more mainstream and more globally recognized. Like why from 329 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: your perspective as an artist and as a Columbiana, Like 330 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: why do you think Colombia is hitting that way? 331 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 332 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pes, Colombia is absolute Ala santos privilehiado and terminus 333 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: com ucas and planeta yes so I h o q 334 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: ten gamos much as influenzias culturalist kean for la costa pacifica, 335 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: la costa Atlantica, ke gamos la fuersa de la reis 336 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: indigena and nostro sandstras cordigeras kes colonaeque etna mundo colombo 337 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: vida come on, come vibus la resta vivaca montageous antigua 338 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: No Colombia's birthday Sta viva, yes so sersa at oke 339 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: screa bien here betal importante ponente Stoke is Moody versa 340 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: and Paris Moody verso, and says tambi and I como 341 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: supposibly that the doesn't Calle del mundo come. 342 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: Cons possibly as. 343 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: The representao and and tantas cosques Columbia's mo musical moil 344 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: anti the fiesta cele festivales fias eat different tests so 345 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: nios Henero's format, the cantar a sentos format latosos and 346 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 4: will best area and tall pies croqu flumo so familiar, 347 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: tambien com crokema sta marc. 348 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: Dificial, la. 349 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: In forma, the the transformer as the la musica Yeah yeah, 350 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: la com. 351 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, tart. 352 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: Coronea esperanzaca musica, sespasio says como Colombia I lata de 353 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: conti and the un al mundo and ra and musica. 354 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: There's the l lambana con carl Giakira slaina, the del 355 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: Mundo Grande poor positional mohr and notra perspective, antel mundo 356 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: Latina intelligent, Creadora du camino, saveez am asante and finn 357 00:31:53,200 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: pertabien las musicas traditionalees last stares tambien in the tonos 358 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: in tango, I project those Grammys, Latinos and Colombia in 359 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: a rock and which just causa note p in Colombia. 360 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: Is yes, You're performing in la at a show called 361 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: canto and Resistance. Yeah, tell us about that show. And 362 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm so curious about what it's like for you performing 363 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: in Colombia and then performing your music for American audiences. 364 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: How is that experience different for you? 365 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: I am super happy, excited. I cannot believe that I'm 366 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: going to sing in the World Disney Concert Hall. Oh 367 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: my god, what a massive instrument, like a piece of art. 368 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, It's like so beautiful and incredible. With 369 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: the phil La Filarmonica Los Angeles is Las del mundo, 370 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: untal my melt latino, nor gujo, hiante, joke chojni aga, 371 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: tartus Canes is pretty Privilegio to Como Viviendo Grandgo, La 372 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: Vida Canton Resistancia is the project to Para coma Junta Rosas. 373 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: Bosses, the Rosas, since. 374 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: Canto Amino alam monstos, los espertarlas, yea ricono serla Puna, 375 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: the lass Partes, The Canto Somos Nas then stra Vida, 376 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: Crevimos Nostra contamos historias and toss Croquestio Sicio a feminist 377 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: Pero Masque, d V D. Lokesler Lombre, Locate Santo Music 378 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 4: Integra y permitted reco integration, Tarkemos the hurricane and tenmos 379 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 4: to us standard here in Il Lumnino Asio precomas house car, Construas, 380 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: contard mundotra vision, as soon as Leake, Canto, Resistancia, Pamusa 381 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 4: star an a Tissue, Eligera, Lila downs go Yo, Compatria 382 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: silvan Strata Minesta and in lost As Proximos la Field 383 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: and a Moment Too and ales in Contraoscellos Angeles Tamenes 384 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: comes the melting Pot, Cultura del Latino del Mundo. I 385 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: mean it's La Casa de los Latinos, Yes and Iraqi 386 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 4: and Contra to us as Influenzas and toll and. 387 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 3: Express Aki. 388 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: For us playing outside of Colombia, it's like something that 389 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: we have been doing, like since the beginning of our 390 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: story because I don't know, it's it's kind of sad 391 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: to say it, but it's hard to be a musicians 392 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: in our country and to survive, you know, like because 393 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: you have to you need I don't know, this is 394 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 4: this is not a not an easy career and we 395 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: had to go and travel around the world to keep it, 396 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: you know, to keep it working. So since twenty twelve, 397 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: we have been touring outside of our country and the 398 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: United States of America, it's like one of the countries 399 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: that we've been touring the most. We love to come 400 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: and play here. We did, like I don't know, seven 401 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: or eight years ago, we did a tiny esque session. 402 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: We were like the first a South American band to 403 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 4: record a Chinese esque session, and that changed our audience 404 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: here in States. It changed because it was not just Latinos, 405 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 4: but like people from Asia or I don't know, like 406 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: different parts of the world that live here and just 407 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: found and loved what we do and they go. So 408 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: we when we make shows here and we tour in States, 409 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: there's people from all around the world, and that's lovely. 410 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 4: I love that that energy, like different ways to feel 411 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 4: and you know, to approach to the music and put 412 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 4: it all together is beautiful. Of course we love to 413 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 4: our Columbian people that it's all the time, like with 414 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 4: the flag, you know. 415 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: I love that to you know, to feel part of 416 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 3: my community. 417 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: And also like people from Mexico that for us, Mexico 418 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 4: is like our second home and I think LA it's that, 419 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's like Mexico, Latin America, n Teto asparto 420 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 4: del Mundo and of course a lot of entertainment, you know, 421 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 4: like movements. 422 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. We love to play here. 423 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: Well, we're looking forward to the show. We're going to 424 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: be attending. 425 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, We're excited, We're very excited. 426 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: So thanks for thank you for coming to LA and 427 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: for sharing your music with us. 428 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 429 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: Look at Our Radio A radio funding novella is executive 430 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: produced and hosted by Me Mala Munios ANDOSFM. 431 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: Story editing by me FIOSA. 432 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: Audio editing by Stephanie Franco. 433 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: Thank you to our locomotives, our listeners for all of 434 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: your support. 435 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 3: bestI FoST. 436 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: Look at Radio A radio phonic Nobela hosted by Mala Munos. 437 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: And diosa fem. 438 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Take us to your network. 439 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 4: H