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Speaker 1: Brian brons Well, we promised you a draft show, and

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Speaker 1: way through. David Hellman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Welcome again.

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Speaker 1: We're putting the draft show together from a hotel room.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've done it before, but I just it's great.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun when you can do it like this.

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Speaker 1: Kenny props to Kent Garrison as abolutely. Ken Garrison's got

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Speaker 1: Com and a contributor to Dallascowboys dot Com. Again, I've

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Speaker 1: told you we are from the Vermobile, Alabama, here at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Gonna get into a few things. We

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Speaker 1: had practice today. The North and the South got to

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Speaker 1: be the hitting aspect of it, the physical aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: Today we got to see the guys move around. But

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Speaker 1: of the way ins. And that's always important for scouts

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Speaker 1: don't have verified measurables. When I have come out the measurables.

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Speaker 1: Dane and Dave. There weren't any huge disparities in heights

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Speaker 1: well the guy they say he's he's six four and

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Speaker 1: Can you say it for us one more time? Tano Passen.

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Speaker 1: play live, that's what it does to you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You're watching taping, you know, like you're saying, he was thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's not playing short, He's not. I mean, he's knocking

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Speaker 1: Cup Verse Jordan Lewis was it might be my favorite

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Speaker 1: matchup of this entire week when those the Eastern Washington

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Speaker 1: terms of production, going up against Jordan Lewis that that's

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Speaker 1: been a fun matchup to watch. Yeah, cup Is, he's

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Speaker 1: six one and a half one pounds, very savvy guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna you know, he's probably a four or

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Speaker 1: he's so savvy. He understands how to get open, manipulate

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field from the slot. Uh so

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Speaker 1: for lewis a big test to you know, stay glued

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Speaker 1: to him and knocked out passes, which he did in

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Speaker 1: practice today. I'll give Cup and I wrote about this

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Speaker 1: and try and get in on the play. Cup went after.

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Speaker 1: And I think Desmond King is one of the toughest

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Speaker 1: to the outside. I mean, I think that's pretty impressive

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Speaker 1: right there, because I can say I I think I

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Speaker 1: have the utmost respect for King and how physical he

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Speaker 1: he's not. I grated him better as a safety, I do,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is safety. I think you got

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Speaker 1: him right. He's oh man, he said it like you

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Speaker 1: sounded bummed out because last year when I watched him play,

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Speaker 1: I thought you know, when you look at some of

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Speaker 1: the matchups and having eight picks, I'll do for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like you're sitting there and you're you're kind of thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: this might be the best corner in the draft because

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Speaker 1: of the physical nature his ability to run with this

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Speaker 1: guy when you know, stay with him, play in position

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Speaker 1: almost be a little cheap in the way plays. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's still that way. He's a dirty guy. He has

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Speaker 1: a dirty Yeah, he's a dirty player, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I respect him for it. Yeah, you would, because he

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Speaker 1: you know, but we were watching tape of him last

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Speaker 1: year and I'm trying to remember the match. Uh was

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Speaker 1: it pit that a match? It was the BOYD and

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Speaker 1: him and BOYD went at it pretty well, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty But yeah, I think this kid's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to play safety. I really really do. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, and I don't. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with that, No, I don't, because of how physically

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Speaker 1: he really really is, right, and I think we could

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Speaker 1: set a lot about you know, the corner doesn't have

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Speaker 1: ideal measurable size all that that. Oh, we'll just moveing

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Speaker 1: to safety. A lot of times that doesn't work. But

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Speaker 1: with King, I think it because he does have that physicality,

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Speaker 1: the toughness that you want where he can show up

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Speaker 1: and run support. So I think that transition He's never

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a corner. He's always been a corner, right,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that transition could happen and does

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Speaker 1: make sense. There's a lot of corners in this draft though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of There are a lot of good corners.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the Cowboys, if you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: NFL team out there that, uh, you know needs cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for you to grab a corner.

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Speaker 1: I think that this draft will be loaded with some guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into another the offensive I coming

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Speaker 1: into this and we we had the draft show last week.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the offensive tackles in this uh this draft, Dallas, Dave,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about they could potentially at twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: would you would that be the best player on the board, lingering, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's that, Okay? Is it? Is it one of those

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Speaker 1: positions where you go in thinking they need defensive ends,

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Speaker 1: they need corners, but offensive tackle tight ends another person.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into a tight end. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into a tight end here. But these offensive

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Speaker 1: tackles though, going back to I mean, Jerry and Stephen

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Speaker 1: Jones both spoke to reporters today and again it's not

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Speaker 1: groundbreaking information, but they both kind of said, you run

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Speaker 1: into trouble when you just determine that you need a

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Speaker 1: have pass rush, gotta have pass rush, and you you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he's just gotta have pass rush, though, well

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Speaker 1: he does have to have pass I mean, there's and

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Speaker 1: I thought Jerry might have had the line of the

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Speaker 1: pass rush. Right Anyway, I think the direct quote from

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Speaker 1: Steven was, you know, you get in you wind up

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Speaker 1: the board. So again, I mean, it's not news, but

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Speaker 1: this is the way the Cowboys have operated. This is

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Speaker 1: bit more physical. Right, He'll he'll struggle in coverage a

639
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: little bit. That's what his tape says. So it'll be

640
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: the same this week, but he'll has been good moments

641
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, boy guys a good looking kid. Yeah,

642
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: so we talked about we talked about Lewis from Michigan earlier. Yes,

643
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: we've I think we can also we've safe to say

644
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: we've covered Desmond King and Trey White for the most part.

645
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Trey White's the best corner here. I think. Yes, I

646
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: am I and I and I and I hate to

647
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: do that because I was telling Dane earlier when I

648
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: when we when we talk about Lsu kids, you know,

649
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: you feel like you're you're you're selling a kid. And

650
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: I love Mo Clayborne. I do. This kid's a really

651
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: good football player. He's gonna be a first round football player.

652
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: And so yeah, any anytime I'm selling a guy, he thinks,

653
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: so too. For whatever. That's well, no, and that's okay,

654
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. If you can think that, go ahead.

655
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Well okay, Well I'm sorry. I was gonna say, which

656
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: is quick on White? I was watching and drills and well, no,

657
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: I think he's late first, early second in that range. Right.

658
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I was talking to a dB coach for a team

659
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: in the AFC, and I asked him. I was like, so,

660
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: who do you think of these corners? Who do you

661
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: like the best? And he said, honestly, I haven't seen

662
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: a look of these guys. This is my first time

663
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: seeing any of them. If I tell you Lsu White

664
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: right there, it's a good first impression. Yeah. I mean

665
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: he was Dwayne Walker, the Browns defensive backs coach. He

666
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: was using White to a show the other corners, how

667
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: did you example? He was an example. He knew that

668
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: he only had to explain at once and White was

669
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna know exactly what to do and do it correctly. So,

670
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he just he's that four year guy, four

671
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: year starter. I think him returning for a senior year

672
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: was one of the best decisions he could have made

673
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: instead of coming out last year like he almost did. So.

674
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh something for those juniors to think about coming back

675
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: for your senior year and how much of an impact

676
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: it come day plays outside and in the slot as well.

677
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: He does it all. He returns punts too. Yeah, not

678
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: very well. But as in the NFL, not very well.

679
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Uh sorry, we kind of got sidetracked. Sorry, but Grant

680
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: already Aside from the obvious guys, Grant wanted to know about,

681
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, some maybe two to four round corners, mid

682
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: tier corners that that people can look for at the

683
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Let's see who we have here. We talked

684
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: about Lewis m CAZy from San Diego State's an interesting guy.

685
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: He was very interesting guy. Guy loves to get his

686
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: hands on the football. Yeah, he'll take a little too many,

687
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: too many chances at times, but uh he had to

688
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: love the aggressive this. He'll tell you what. Chad Williams

689
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: took him to the Cleaners statewider. Yeah, and that's another guy,

690
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Chad Williams Oe And I know we'll get into him

691
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: a little bit later, but I'll tell you what though. Yeah,

692
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: these corners, I mean it was, uh, you get chance

693
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: see corn Elder at all to Miami. I was trying

694
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: to pay attention to him, and I always found myself

695
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: going somewhere else. He's he's a really he had a

696
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: few really good games. He's year at the Florida State

697
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: tape shouts out. The North Carolina State or the North

698
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: Carolina tape stands out. And I thought he did a

699
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: nice job today. Eager to see more and one on

700
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: one matchups going against receivers. But he's not the biggest guy,

701
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: but he's very tough. I think he fits that, you know,

702
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the slot, which you want a nickel corner guy who

703
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: can line up over the slot and stay attached to

704
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: that receiver. I think he's a guy that's gonna make

705
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money in the NFL and not be

706
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but be in that second the

707
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: fourth round. And we brought up King. We kind of

708
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: think maybe King might be a that type of a

709
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: player as well. Uh not not at the Senior Bowl,

710
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: but we're hoping he would be at the Senior Bowl.

711
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: What is y'all's level of concern about Tack McKinley's labor

712
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: m injury? So what the combines for? You know, we'll

713
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: find out more with the combine with you know, he

714
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: hasn't that surgery yet. They're still trying to figure that out.

715
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's seeing getting different opinions about the shoulder,

716
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: if whether or not he'll have surgery, and you know,

717
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: go from there. But the combine will tell us exactly

718
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: what's going on with the rehab, with when he'll be

719
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, any long term worries and hopefully there's

720
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: nothing long term. Hopefully he can work out, you know,

721
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: before the draft. And do you like Lawson better than him?

722
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: They're close, yes, so that I'm the same way I've

723
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: got McKinley. I got McKinley above above Lawson. But it's

724
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: that whole big thing about Carl Awston right now. Yes, Yeah,

725
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, people want me say that Lawson Auburn.

726
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Somebody was asking me when y'all get into your draft nerds,

727
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: it's like Lawson, Yeah, we got to make sure we

728
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: say the school but yeah, I think that to me,

729
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have to get the surgery, get it now,

730
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: let's not get it. You know last year what happened

731
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: with some of those kids. Buffalo took the two games,

732
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, it's they have to have surgery.

733
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: They can't. Yeah, I mean you lose a whole year. Yeah,

734
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: you lose a whole year on that. And get the

735
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: surgery now if you have to, and then you know,

736
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: try and play it up until you get to this

737
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: to the training camp. Something you have to consider with

738
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: McKinley because he's not the biggest guy, doesn't have the

739
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: best body armor, right, uh, And so you know, can

740
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: he take consistent punishment going up against you know, offensive

741
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: tackles all game from sixteen game schedule. He played a

742
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: lot of the season with as a hamstring injury, right,

743
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: He was banged up a lot. So it's just something

744
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: you have to consider in the overall evaluation. Yeah too,

745
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: And then you like a guy that's been banged up

746
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot in his career. O DIGGI zawat use another

747
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: Ucla guy? Yeah? What's with Ucla guys? I'm just I mean,

748
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean that, but you watched the tape. I will

749
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: say this though, about him against Banner holding up at

750
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the point of attack. That three hundred and sixty pound

751
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: body was coming off and he was able to kind

752
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: of hold his own in there, so he knows how

753
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: to use his hands to keep it clean. But get

754
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: the surgery has I'm not trying to be just get

755
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: it done, like, I don't want it to be something

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: hanging over his head. And you're right, we get to

757
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: the combine, it'll all be standing there and he'll he'll

758
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: be up there and and then medical information will leak

759
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: out that he has to have the surgery, and then

760
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: we'll all be Like I talked about it the Second

761
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Draft show, I had a conversation about this. Not to

762
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: be an l Shoe hommer, but I was having a

763
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody about Kendall beckwith yeah, yeah, he's got

764
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: an injury, and they're they're being really hush hush about it,

765
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, dude, just just hell, just figure

766
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: out what it is like in this day and age. No,

767
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: you're not going to scare too many people off. If

768
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: they think it's an injury, they can do. I mean,

769
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith le sit in the top fifty. Yeah, if

770
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: you get get this, get whatever surgery you need, be

771
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: honest about it, you're gonna get drafted. I don't get

772
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: the need for like the secrecy or the delaying. So anyway,

773
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: David Brian, you're gonna love this question. Yeah. We talked

774
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: about oj Howard, We talk about Jake Butt as a

775
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: consideration as a risky pick because of his injury. Does

776
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: the presence of Rico gathers on the Cowboys roster do

777
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: anything for you? And you know, maybe they don't need

778
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: a tight end? You know, this is something that I

779
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: can't really speak to because I don't I haven't seen

780
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: him at practice. Yeah, so because that's we knew, we

781
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: know the raw ability, but how is he progressing as

782
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: a football player. Yeah. See, that's the thing. It wasn't

783
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the athletic ability with and that's what I mean. Remember

784
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Jason Garret would all tell us though, if they could

785
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: hold up scout team cards and say, okay, Rico, you're

786
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: gonna go whoop over here and then do that, then

787
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: that was gonna be okay. But I will say this,

788
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I had people come up to me and say, because

789
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: I was always curious about Rico and I had people

790
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: come to me and say, you got to see what

791
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Romo did with him today. You have to see what

792
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Romo how Romo threw him because Romo was with him

793
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: on scout team, and Romo just kept throwing the ball

794
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: because he was so much bigger. I mean, he was

795
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: battling Church, he's battling Jones, He's battling Wilcox and Heath,

796
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: and the kid just kept making plays. The problem is

797
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: it's not the athletic ability, it's the mental side. And

798
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean the mental side like me, like play

799
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: a couple of games out of helmet. Just hasn't. Yeah,

800
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: he just hadn't played football. That is fascinating to me

801
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: because I mean, oh, Romo. They said Romo would just

802
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: light him up. We're so intrigued by O J. Howard

803
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: because he's got this freakers athletics. Rico gathers as an

804
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: athletic dude. I mean, if he can put it all together,

805
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: what if what if you had both? What if you

806
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: had both? Which you can't realistic going to next season?

807
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Now you're expecting him to be a number two. I

808
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: think I think I'll tell you what you could you

809
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: could realistically go in there and think that O. J. Howard,

810
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you something I wrote about it today

811
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: as well. The Browns coaches used him more in line, Dane.

812
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: Did you notice that more is a more's a true?

813
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: Why which I don't know. I don't know if he

814
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: was showing to me because if you watch him in Alabama,

815
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: he plays detached, he plays as a wing, he plays

816
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: as a move and so I mean they kind of

817
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: showed him running routes from in line when I thought

818
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: that was a thought, I thought Hugh Jackson. Their staff

819
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: did a nice job of kind of and every route

820
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: he ran he separated from somebody. I mean it was separation.

821
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set you up a good question from James.

822
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: I feel like I know where you're gonna go with

823
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: this maybe, but we'll see um not so much receivers,

824
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: but are there any return specialist guys that you might

825
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: have an eye on out here? I know, for me personally,

826
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I want to see Donal Pumphrey. That's where I thought

827
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Brian was gonna go. See. I was kind of thing

828
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: he give away and I knew I was again. Another

829
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: guy wrote about today, I love the quickness of the player,

830
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: I really do. And Dane made a great point. He goes, Brian,

831
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: he's one sixty nine, he's won sixty FBS all time

832
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: leading rusher. Yeah, what are you sixty nine pounds? He goes,

833
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I'm well, and that's the

834
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna I'm just gonna be I'm just a

835
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: white head. But that's that's fair. That's fair. But that's

836
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: why that's fair. You know when he punt returns he

837
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: had at San Diego State zero. Yeah, And so that's

838
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: why I want to see this week is can he

839
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: field punts? Can he? You know? Does he? There's a

840
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: lot that goes into it. It's not like it's an

841
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: easy transit time, so you try to get rid of

842
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: the lucky white head. I mean, I want to see

843
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: can Pumfrey take on the punt return responsibilities? And not

844
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: only so he can do it cash, Yeah, not only

845
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: do it, but be actually effective at it. Because if

846
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: he can do that, then there's a spot for him

847
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: on my roster because then I can use him on

848
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: offense and a certain pack let me tell you what.

849
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: They couldn't cover the key coming out of the backfield. Yeah,

850
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: he would come up explode to his left and they

851
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: just and he just you see it. I mean and

852
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: even even the even the vision. I love the kid's vision.

853
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: I love to watch San Diego stay tape where him

854
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: just taking the ball and making cuts and stuff like that.

855
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: I can we right now stop the Darren Sproles comparisons

856
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: because people think that it's not that thick No, it's not.

857
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I guess so many what is he like Darren Sproles.

858
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Everybody says Darren Sproles is short, but he's also like

859
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: one ninety Yeah, that's the thickness. So he can legs,

860
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, to come between tackles at times where pum

861
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: free one hundred and sixty nine pounds, very lean and

862
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: he's not getting any bigger, all right, five o eight two,

863
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: so he's just to tick over five eight but in

864
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: small hands. Yeah, but he's guy's a good football player.

865
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: He can make guys miss. Yeah, find ways to kind

866
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: of get gay like down on the field. But you're right,

867
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: see if you can find Yeah, that's the great thing

868
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: about these bowl games. Maybe there's somebody that is a

869
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: return to that you kind of don't know about it.

870
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: And then when we sit get get back to the star,

871
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: we'll sit down and watched the tape. See how the

872
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: returners look Dorry Jackson. They have to exactly, that's a

873
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: guy we're gonna be talking about a lot. I'm sure

874
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: I had to watch that Utah tape. I told you

875
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: about the Utah tape. Yeah, I got bullied a little

876
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: bit in the Utah game. Some people said he got

877
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: a little bit bullied against Penn State in the Rose Bowl. Yeah,

878
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad tape fire that people like

879
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that tends to happen when you've got

880
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: a guy that makes like Lightning Rod type plays. I

881
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: feel like all this kid is Pepper Bill Peppers. Yeah,

882
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: somehow he was in New York for the hisman and

883
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't the best player on his own defense. I mean,

884
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: when you get this much amount of attention on right, Yes,

885
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: I know there are plenty of Michigan fans who will

886
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: tell me that he was not the best player on

887
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: that Michigan defense. Scot scouts will get the media caught

888
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: up on that one. I mean, Lewis Charlton thirty second

889
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: ranked player on your top fifty of I believe, right,

890
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: all right, Eddie's I got one more, Eddie wants to know.

891
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: And this is I mean, I think this is a

892
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: fair question. You got if Tyron Crawford stays at end.

893
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so it's so early to try to

894
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: predict this stuff. You see three tech as something that

895
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: needs looking at, even with Malie Collins having a good year. Yeah,

896
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 1: people are trying to get that Florida State kid on board.

897
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I believe Walker. Yeah. Do you kind of think Walker's

898
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: a three technique for Florida State? Yes, but he's not

899
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: a three down three technique? Yeah, I mean he do

900
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: you do you think he can hold up versus to

901
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: run as a three technill he I know, but is

902
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: he better than is he better at three technique for

903
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: three downs than the year is playing defensive end? It's

904
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: that's tough because yeah, and I know, I know what

905
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: you're saying. I don't I worry about I think he

906
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: could be a liability as a three technique on first

907
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: and second down, whereas an edge rusher, He's I don't

908
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: think he's as much a liability. He's just not gonna

909
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. So you're saying, yeah, it's you're

910
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: not gonna have a true You're not have a true end.

911
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: But you have a nickel player as a three technique

912
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: to get attack. Here in lies the problem with Marcus

913
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Walker is what how do you what do you do

914
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: with watch the old miss game. You drafted him in

915
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: the first round. Let's oh my god, I watch all

916
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: of his highlights. Yeah, and they come against the guard,

917
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: because that's what I'm saying. They're all against the guard,

918
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: the attack or the guard or the edge rushers going

919
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: outside right room in the middle for him to beat

920
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: a slow footed guard and it just looks easy. Let

921
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: me keep this Senior Bowl oriented real quick. I'm and

922
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: this has been a great place to watch defensive tackles

923
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: over the last Oh yeah, Donald was here, Austin Johnson

924
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins Washington. Who there were like eight six

925
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: good d tackles out here last year. Who who we

926
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: got this year? Who are we looking at? Anybody? My

927
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: boy from Charlotte, Larry Ogun Jobie, he walked past me today,

928
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: big dude. Let me tell you what, man, that's some

929
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: of a gun could get up the field now and

930
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: he and in a matter of fact, you you told

931
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: me he's coached by at Charlotte. He's coached by a

932
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: former pro player Aaron Curry, the former top five pick

933
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: out of Wake Forest. Who who's a bust. Yeah he

934
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: has a nine draft but he Yeah, he's the defensive

935
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: line coach at Charlotte. Now, um, and I'll tell you

936
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: Larry Ogman, Jobi is fascinating story. Yeah, I'll tell you what.

937
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: He was a pain in the rear to block in

938
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: the one on one drills today. He was attacking that

939
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: the centers had problems. He was attacking snap hand. You

940
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Snap. You know, centers have a

941
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: hard time of snapping the ball and then getting that

942
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: hand up. But he was to the edge to the

943
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: corner before they even had a chance to get their

944
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: snap hand up and to try and stop. And started

945
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: at the way in. He looked really good at the

946
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: way in six two and a half, three or four.

947
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: And this is the player who in high school he

948
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: waited over three hundred fifty pounds. He had a lot

949
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: of issues with his weight, finally started getting conditioned. His

950
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: work ethic is you know, turned around to Charlotte. He

951
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: was part of the first recruiting class at Charlotte when

952
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: they was building a program. He's one of the founding

953
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: players of this program, and he's going to be their

954
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: first draft pick. Where's he go I mean third round?

955
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: I would I think he's a third round player, might

956
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: even go on possibly high. Yeah, you mean the workouts

957
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He's gonna do great in the

958
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: shuttle drills and things like that because of his quickness.

959
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a problem today. He was a

960
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: nose guard on tape and that three four that they ran.

961
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, put play him on the edge in the

962
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: edge technique tech. Yeah, let him get up field. Yeah,

963
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: be disruptive. All right, we're gonna take our final BREAKO.

964
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965
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,600
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966
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1028
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: I talked about this, I teased it a little bit.

1029
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's the padded practice. I think these coaches do a

1030
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: really nice job of tailoring the practices to allow the

1031
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: scouts and the coaches to really get a good handle

1032
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: on what, you know, what they could see from these kids.

1033
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: You know, physically, I hope Mike Tomlin's out there Boston

1034
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: people around he usually is. He is. He gets down

1035
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: the field and just starts to me like he's on

1036
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: the coaching stuff. Yeah, he just just yells at everybody.

1037
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: But see how that works with the Browns coaching style.

1038
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: It's a great point. That'll fly or not that won't be.

1039
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: That won't be work too well. But but let's talk

1040
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: talk about Dave tomorrow. We we've talked about offensive lineman.

1041
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: These defensive linemen. You know, we'll get some that nine

1042
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: on seven stuff. We're gonna get some one on one. Uh,

1043
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, the pass rush stuff. We get a little

1044
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: of that today. But the pads just a little bit different.

1045
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: See how these kids carry their patch, right, Yeah. I

1046
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: mean it's like it's like training camp. They Jason Garrett

1047
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: makes them go through those two days in shorts and

1048
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like yeah, uh so, yeah, pads

1049
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: come on and I mean they're not gonna be killing

1050
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: each other obviously, but um and you know, for me,

1051
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I got to see basic for Desmond King, he'll hit somebody. Well, Hey,

1052
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because I want to see

1053
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: And everybody's gonna be watching the pass rushers obviously, but

1054
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: I want to see the dbs. I want to see

1055
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: what these guys look like. Uh, they should have opportunities

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00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: to make plays with the you know the one on

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00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: one and seven on seven and having a chance to

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00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: actually get out there and kind of make some contact.

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00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen plenty of tradevious White, but I

1060
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: want to see him go against these guys. Desmond King

1061
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: has been interesting to me for multiple years now, So yeah,

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00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see those guys day. The biggest thing

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00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: for me is progression. I want to see progression throughout

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Speaker 1: the week from these guys. What they did wrong today?

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00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: Do they work on that tomorrow and Thursday and through

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00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: the week and get better and really implement the coaching

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00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: that they're getting. Um, you know, they're getting a first

1068
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: class education this week from NFL coaches and so you

1069
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: know they're getting a lot of FaceTime not only on

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00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: the field with what we saw today, but also in

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00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: the classroom with these with these coaches about different techniques,

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00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: what they want to see, and so a lot of

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00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: these guys struggled today. It's first practice. You're you know,

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Speaker 1: new coaches, new verbiage, new teammates. I mean, there's just

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00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: so much new coomanatcha that it could be a struggle,

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00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: but I want to see. So it's okay for the

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: first day to see struggles. It don't make any you know,

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Speaker 1: strong opinions based on one day. But tomorrow and Thursday,

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00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: let's see improvement in those areas. Let's see you get

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Speaker 1: better and really implement the coaching that you're getting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you make a great point. I think both

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00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: of you make a great point. I this is the

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: opportunity in our own h from Dallas Cowboys. Dak Prescott

1084
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: at DAK even tweeted that out. Hey, you know, every

1085
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: rep is important, whether you're you know, walking to into

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00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: the huddle or you're going onto the field, you're always

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00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: being evaluated. I think that's where these coaches, these scouts,

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00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: these are the first impressions. I mean Dak Prescott's first

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00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: impression on Scott Lenahan. The scouts and all that scouts

1090
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: had seen him at Mississippi State. But these coaches now

1091
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: they're now getting into the scouting process. And you know,

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00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: it was the coaches that really pushed hard to get

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00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott selected so every everything like you guys were

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00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: talking about, is important, and every rep they take, you know,

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00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: every missed assignment, it's like, you know, hey, we tried

1096
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: to coach his kid up. You know, if you're a

1097
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown or you're a Chicago Beart and you're thinking,

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: we tried to coach his kid up and he couldn't

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00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: pick up what we're doing. It's a test for these kids. Hey,

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Speaker 1: And I mean obviously the practices are the krem della krem,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I thought Dak made a great point

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Speaker 1: like walking through the lobby with people and you know

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: we're here doing the podcast, we're gonna go eat and

1104
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Players and coaches and scouts are they're

1105
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: working until midnight. They're interviewings and interviews. So it's a

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00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: long week for these players and they got to be

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: on for basically all of it. And the Senior Bowl

1108
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: is a great opportunity for these coaches not only to

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00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: find out, you know, like who might fit, but cross

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Speaker 1: guys off the list. You know, guys that struggle throughout

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: the week or you know, don't maybe fit the culture

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00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: or the scheme. So yeah, this is this is a

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00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: job interview. You know, it's this isn't the Pro Bowl,

1114
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls a reward, you know, this is different. This

1115
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: is a job interview. These guys are taking it serious

1116
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: and they know there are dollars and cents on the

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00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: line with everything they do, every move they make this week. Yeah,

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I think why it is so important though. You know,

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: we've seen some guys. We saw some some nice plays today,

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00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: my little wide receiver Switzer a couple of times Coldby's

1121
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a very similar builds even. But yeah,

1122
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: you're seeing guys that are there. He's playing slot, he's

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00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: they're trying him outside. I mean, they're trying to do

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00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: things with these kids to test them, to test them,

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Speaker 1: to see if in fact that they can handle what's

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Speaker 1: being thrown at them. And I, you know, and I

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00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: think really like you said, Dany, I think the next

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Speaker 1: two days are really really important. Hell, you know, Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, you know, they they they've got coaches at

1130
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. It's been really easy for them to

1131
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: load up and go fly to the Pro Bowl and

1132
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: hang out with a bunch of guys who were h

1133
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, who have already made it. They chose to

1134
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: be here because they know how important this draft is.

1135
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: Forget the Joneses. Uh, Thomas to meet Tommy Day, my buddy,

1136
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: Tommy Day, I would still be spraying champagne everywhere if

1137
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: I were then, I don't know. You come here and

1138
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: you have everybody congratulated. You can't walk ten feet like

1139
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: a backslap to it. I sent him. I sent him

1140
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: a text message, Thomas to Mitchell. Tommy used to sleep

1141
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: on my couch when he was a young scout NFL Europe,

1142
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: and you know, but I sent him a text. I'm like, hey, congratulations, man,

1143
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: it's about time. You know, he'd been into Super Bowl

1144
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: in New England all but yeah, this is important. This

1145
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: is really important. So tomorrow we'll be a big day.

1146
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: We'll be here to cover it for you on Dallas

1147
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. Uh. You know, we're excited about the

1148
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to to bring you the videos, to talk to people.

1149
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll bring you a little bit more look at

1150
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: with the draft show things like that, some some stuff

1151
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: with the some more articles and things like that to

1152
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: try and give you a little bit clearer picture of

1153
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: what's going on. So I'm excited about tom I'm excited

1154
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: about these next two days, I really really am and

1155
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: when what we what holds for them? We entered this

1156
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: week for me, Oj Howard was one and Forest Lamp

1157
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: was two. Yeah, do you agree with that? Coming into

1158
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: the week, I think so okay, Yeah, I think that,

1159
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Lamp to me was a guy that

1160
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: I was trying trying to figure it out. I was

1161
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where he was gonna play. I

1162
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: didn't know is he is he a tackle? Can he

1163
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: be that guard? You know you compared him to take

1164
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: za Zack Martin path, right, So I'm trying to figure

1165
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: that out. I'm trying, you know, when you're right, the measurables,

1166
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: the fact today that he showed a little bit better

1167
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: inside a handling stuff. When he got out on space,

1168
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: I felt like he was a little bit overextended, maybe

1169
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: leaning too much, But inside he looks pretty good. So

1170
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I even remember when Zach Martin was here,

1171
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like a stigma. You don't want to be a guard,

1172
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: you want to be a tackle. But do you kind

1173
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: of feel like that's changing now thanks to Zach Martin?

1174
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: And Yeah, Stephen Jones said he was like, you can

1175
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: count on us picking up the fifth year option. Zach

1176
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Martin is very likely going to set the Guard market this.

1177
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. I mean, don't you can't let

1178
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: Zach Oh no, No, that's you know, he's I think

1179
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a lifelong Cowboy. And that's kind of

1180
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: my point is I feel like in two or three

1181
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: short years, you know, Guard is all of a sudden

1182
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: like a sexy position. And I maybe I'm giving the

1183
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys too much credit, but I think they have something

1184
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: to do with that. Let me give you let me

1185
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: ask you some some days since she talked, and we're

1186
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: running out of time here, but I just want to

1187
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: make sure we get this into the people, the Cowboy

1188
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: fans out there. Was was it addressed because Dak Prescott

1189
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: from here drafted, you know, obviously going to be the

1190
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback in the future. Was there any discussion about

1191
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: what was going to go on with Tony Romo. I

1192
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: was stunned by how little even Jerry Jones was willing

1193
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: to say. And that's not Jerry Jones. He's not afraid

1194
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: to kind of talk and kind of throw some stuff

1195
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: out there and see what happens. Yeah, and a chum

1196
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: and the water guy, and he was just kind of like,

1197
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna cool our jets on talking about this. We're

1198
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out, but we're not going to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. And then we tried to talk to Stephen

1200
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: about it and he was like, you got the wrong guy. Yeah,

1201
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: you need to be talking to the other. Jerry, Yeah,

1202
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: this is this is one voice. This I think this

1203
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be Tony and this is gonna

1204
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: be Jerry. Yeah. I think when then and and we're

1205
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: we'll be there at the combine and I think this

1206
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: is when talks will really really start. It's gonna be

1207
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be unique in the in

1208
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: the in all the world of contract negotiations and free

1209
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: aid all that, I think it's gonna be unique with

1210
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: all of that, because very rarely do you see a

1211
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: player that means this much to this to a franchise

1212
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: at that position move before it's time to call it

1213
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: a career, you know. And so I don't know what's

1214
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: going to happen. Jerry Jones didn't want to talk about it,

1215
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't even I've been saying this

1216
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: since the season and I don't even know how you

1217
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: guess at which way it goes. But it will be

1218
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: fascinating when the wheels finally start. I do. I think

1219
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: when we when we load up and go to Indianapolis

1220
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: and the chance for the Jones is to meet with

1221
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: other general managers, other owners, I think teams are going

1222
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: to have an idea what they want to do. I

1223
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: think the window to do what they need to do

1224
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: is going to be some time before the league years

1225
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: starts and real quick March ninth, before before we do

1226
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: run at a time. I think that's a great point too.

1227
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: Is Cowboy season ended nine days ago, right last year,

1228
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: they'd had a month to stew about what they want

1229
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: to do and kind of about being the Senior Bowl

1230
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: in December. They haven't even had their meeting, they haven't

1231
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: even finished their interviews about who did what, how they

1232
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: fight exactly. Yeah, there's a lot of work to do

1233
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: before they can make those kind of determinations. And yeah,

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: I think we'll have a way better idea about it

1235
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: when we get to Andy. Okay, Well they that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all the time we got for the draft show tonight.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank again David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison, executive.

1238
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: So I want to thank everybody out there for watching

1239
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: us today and we hope you have a good evening.

1240
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back probably about the same time tomorrow, same

1241
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: type of practice schedule, I believe ye. So yeah, we'll

1242
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: look forward to we'll tweet it out on the Draft

1243
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: Show account. So again, thanks for everybody at being out

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Speaker 1: there and we will see it tomorrow.