WEBVTT - More Conversations About Accountability 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sellings podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.320 load glasses Malone. So this had to be like the 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:24.040 third or fourth conversation we didne had about accountability. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:32.279 It doesn't seem to set in to the masters, is. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:32.800 It, like you? 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.080 Okay, we know women, forgive forgive me to all the 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.560 ladies who' supporting No Ceilings. Trust me, I'm not being sexist. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.320 I'm not being what's the other word when they say 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.960 you put down women all the time, chauvinistic, I'm not 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.400 being chauvinistic. I'm not a sexist. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.720 Misogynists is that or is that even not the same term? 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.680 I just know those things they yell at men? 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.160 Sure? Sure? Right. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.520 Besides, which is weird because chivalry and chauvin is they 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.920 probably have some kind of connection with that prefix. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.400 I don't think shive and schover the same. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.440 I know, but when they both start with. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.520 That that they probably somewhere you know all that shit 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.520 Greek anyway, right, So, but moving on. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:19.959 Somewhere. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.160 But forgive me to all the women who enjoy No 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.839 Ceilings podcasts, I am not putting you down. I really 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.800 respect your contribution and I do think you're the greater 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.479 of our two species. I mean, the ability to reproduce 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.360 and bring a life into this universe definitely puts you 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.600 a tear higher than men. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.039 I want you to pat sure Al Bundy sitting on 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.800 his couch with his hands in his pants, and I 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.120 want you to know you are slightly greater than that species. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.040 For sure, you're better than me. Right, but. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:57.280 We know you are allergic to accountability. It's hard because 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.200 in theory, like women are gods on earth, right, and 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.840 it's like it's hard for God to be accountable. I 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.520 would imagine how challenging it would be for God to 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.960 be accountable. So I understand why you guys struggle to 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.440 deal with accountability. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.680 So, but it's weird when. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.600 I see rationale. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.720 But it gets weird when I see men being unaccountable. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:31.520 And usually when men start becoming you know, unaccountable, like 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.400 they lack accountability, they usually get referenced as. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.480 It's like if somebody okay. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:45.000 So again, real snitching only real snitching when I say snitching, right, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:50.480 Real snitching is very much when you inform the police 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:55.320 or authorities on someone else's crime with intent to avoid 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.440 accountability for your own crime. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:58.240 That you committed. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:04.519 Yeah, and usually when somebody snitches, we call them a bitch, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:11.840 ass nigga, a womanly acting man's because you. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.880 Are avoiding accountability. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.880 What's the root of snitch? 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.680 It's a great word too. Yeah. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.520 It almost sounds like they combined like sneaky bitch and 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.799 made one word out of it, like you sneak bitch, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:33.160 you snitch sneak Like I don't know how snitch became 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.360 a became a word. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.840 That's a great point. No, no, let me look up. 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:42.120 Come from what's the early enough in this episode. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.280 We're so far into the concept we have to look 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.960 it up. That's how real it is on this damn podcast. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.280 Yeah, we don't like. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.560 We don't like trying to use words, especially when we 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:53.600 get something going on. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.680 Well, they say the origin. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:02.320 Of snitches late seventeenth century. When it says where did 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.160 the terms snitch originate? 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.560 Oh, here we go for a generation. Uh huh. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.120 This shoots my theory right out of the sky. For 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.560 going late seventeenth century. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.880 For a generation of Harry Potter readers. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.560 A snitch is the golden snitch, the wingball used in 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:29.479 the area of quidditch. Snitch is the rat, the squiller, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.680 the grass, or anyone else who blacks to the police 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:37.360 about his associates, criminals, activities to avoid accountability for his own. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.800 For as long as they have been secrets, thieves, and authorities, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.560 they have been disparaging words for the person who tells 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.440 on friends. A Globe story this week reported on the 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.400 website start snitching dot com that seeks to remove the 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.320 sting from snitching by celebrating those who act against crime 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.640 by reporting people they don't know or excuse me by 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:03.080 reporting people they no have done wrong. It quotes celebrities 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.360 who criticized the wall of silence that so often confronts 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:12.080 investigating officers. Actor rapper iceed T earned a spot by 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:17.159 condemning Cameron's statement that he wouldn't call the police even 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.719 if his next door neighbor were a serial killer. I 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.720 would like to see that condemnation because I don't think 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.240 it probably went that way. But the vocabulary is with 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.440 the villains who have spent centuries devising terms to denounce 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.080 those who turn in thieves and cutthroats. Considered the nose, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.400 which by the late seventeen hundred was being used as a. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:36.760 Synonym for an informer. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:42.039 The eighteen eleven Dictionary of the Bucket Slang University with 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.680 in pickpocket eloquence, essentially a retread of Francis Gross's seventeen 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:52.159 eighty five Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, offers the 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.599 example his pal nosed, and he was twisted for a 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.640 crack and translated as his confederate return King's evidence, and 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.240 he was hanged for burglary. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.360 I like that nose. Yeah, that's not bad. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:12.200 I saw that. I've also seen on online Etymology Dictionary 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.440 eighteen oh one inform on someone reveal or give information 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.919 from snitch now meaning steel or pilfer is a tested 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.640 to nineteen eighty four, perhaps in this in this sense 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:31.200 as a variant of snatch, snatched being to make a 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:36.799 sudden sharp bite. A word of uncertain origin, perhaps recorded English. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:42.680 That bah, so we're either looking at you've I saw 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.919 something else saying meaning nosy. But I don't think that 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.120 that's really I don't think you get that kind of 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:49.840 information by being a gossip. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.719 So you either know somebody or or you snatched on them. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.360 Since the word snitch had for decades been a synonym 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:04.560 for the nose on one's face, snipe his snitch, snitch 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:05.560 his snitch. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:06.599 Or snite his snitch. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:07.440 Gotcha. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:14.080 So since the word snitch for decades, since the word 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.679 snitch had for decades been a synonym for the nose 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.680 on one's face, snipe his snitch was defined by a 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.760 seventeen hundred dictionary as give him a whack on the nose. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.440 See the author of Pinocchio got it wrong, and Pinocchio's 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.880 nose should have grown every time he told on someone, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.240 not every time he lied. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.960 It was a simple matter to start calling an informer 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.360 of snitch as well. Nobody knows where snitch came from, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.760 at least nobody is telling. The nose as informer has 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.960 largely faded from use, but the element of not minding 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.600 your own business continues in the adjective nosy and the 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.600 expression nosy Parker, which appears today from a nineteen oh 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.559 seven English picture postcard about a voyeur in Hyde Park. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.440 Compton Mackenzie picked it up in his nineteen twelve novel Carnival. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.440 I saw you go off with a fella. What of it, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.280 mister nosey Parker. Then there's peach, used in Britain from 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.320 at least fourteen hundred for an informer and an act 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.720 of informing peach. It derives from the edible peach, or 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.880 excuse me, it derives not from the edible peach, but 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.760 from the Latin and petticare to ensnare by feet. Pettica 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.000 was a fetter, which involved to the French Emperor, still 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.079 used today to mean hinder or prevent. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.559 Dude, Oh, snitch. Snitch is a word for nose. We 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:41.920 should bring nose back. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.680 Yes, and furthermore, rather than like killing somebody or cutting 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.600 off their tongue or whatever. If they snitch, it's pretty 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.959 you know, you cut somebody's nose off night his snap, Now, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.640 that would be the That would not be fun to 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.280 go around noseless. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:08:59.280 Not a good look. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.080 Definitely all in somebody and knows. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:08.440 Anyway, the conversation comes about is it's been a real 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.840 crazy last two weeks. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.439 So, first off, the guys that actually. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.680 Were convicted of robbing and murdering PM B Rock, the 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.160 father got time. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.199 He got thirty plus to life. I was correct. I 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:31.880 think it's thirty plus to life. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.280 His one of his friends that set it up got 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.120 double digit time. His old lady got time in prison. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:43.079 The kid who actually committed said crime is they're still 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.000 trying to figure out if he's going to be. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.120 You know, if his head is going to be on 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.880 enough to deal with a trial. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.560 Is he a competent age or is he going to 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.120 be tried as is he like a minor? 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.920 Now he's nineteen, but the case was when he was 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.000 sixteen or seventeen. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.680 Hm. That's the guy from Philly right over about Roscos. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:04.240 Yeah. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.200 Yeah, And a buddy of mine was talking to me 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:11.520 about it and he was like, you know, p and 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.720 b Rock didn't deserve it. He said, that's what those 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:21.719 guys get. And well, I agree. Right, justice exists for. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.839 A reason, right, is how we keep a balance in society. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.160 One of my homegirls, she really hates that their legal 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.160 ramifications to creating society, and she felt like we'd be 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.400 better off if everything was just jungle rules, the strongest 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.839 or the weeddiest survived. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.360 The one reason why I disagree with that. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.960 Is if you have Party A does something to Party B, 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:54.600 and then Party B retaliates, you have this endless retaliatory cycle. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.520 Or is, if you have a third party medium intervene, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:05.200 then it kind of takes that retaliatory you know, back 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.240 and forth kind of to an end. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:07.640 To a degree. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:13.199 Sure brings some peace a little bit. No selings, g 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:20.079 l uh, my brother Peter here back again, no ceilings 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:26.320 fourth season and we cooking, cooking, I get it, you 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.240 know what I mean? It does create some level of peace, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.280 and in a jungle where there's probably not a ton 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.440 of peace, you know, because everybody's trying to eat. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.360 Yeah. But anyway, he said that to me, and it 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.520 made me think, like, No, I. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.840 Guess in the society where laws exist, you know, fair 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:45.280 is fair. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.720 No, we are aware of all the laws, you know. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.160 Yeah, and it's up to us to definitely plan and 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.800 plot to get ahead and not be held accountable by 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.560 said government, you know. I mean, to make sure you 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.880 weren't to make it hard for somebody to nose on you. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.680 Yeah. Yeah, I mean. 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.760 It's like going to a restaurant. Know the price of 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.160 the food before you eat it, don't. I mean, it's 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.200 snitch just like a running out of the check, you 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:18.720 know what I mean. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.719 Yeah, that's a great point. It definitely is running out 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.440 on the check. So he asked me. Based off a 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.800 television show I did with Van Laydon Shout Out to 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.480 my brother Man that came on television where he felt, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.680 I asked. He asked me based off of that show, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.880 He said, well, do you feel p and b Rock 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:45.520 still has accountability? And I said, is he responsible for 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.280 going in this community, this poor community, with what looks 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.680 like one hundred to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:56.720 worth of jewelry into a poor community? And I told 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.320 him it depends morally. Where does he sit if the 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.959 law is your moral compass, you know what I mean? 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.160 I can understand how you could absolve him of all responsibility. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:14.319 But because I grew up in the streets, right, I 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.520 grew up under a different code, you know what I mean. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.160 The thing about the streets is very primitive and natural. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.080 It's nature. It's very nature. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.520 So if you you know, in regular civilian lifestyles, if 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.600 you say something to somebody, if you say something to somebody, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.480 they cannot put their hands on you. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.080 Sure, right, that's normal based off the law. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.000 But where I come from, if you say the wrong 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:45.320 thing to somebody, you may have to defend yourself. Like 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.720 verbal assaults lead to physical assaults, and it's pretty much law. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.240 It's not something to be surprised about. You could kind 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.560 of expect it, Like if you go into a regular 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.679 McDonald's in a suburban community and you call a suburban 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.679 worker out of their name. Let's say you called him 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.400 a bitch. You feel me he maybe he doesn't do anything. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.960 He just gonna ignore you. Now, if you go to 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.760 the kin of Han, you know, shopping center one hundred 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.720 and twenty f in Wilmington, and you call an employee 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.360 that lives in Imperial Course working at McDonald's a bitch, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.360 you may have to defend yourself. And I don't know 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.080 which is better. I don't know which is better. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.200 I think the ones necessary because it's all about trying 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.200 to maintain order via deterrent. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.280 So in Irvine, the threat of getting locked up, just 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.960 the threat of it is to turn. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.640 Enough, and Watts, the threat of getting locked. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.720 Up isn't always the terrent enough. So then you have 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.040 to create a new layer of deterrent, that being the 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.200 immediate here and now deterrent. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.720 The just jury and executioner on the spot yeah, punishable 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.800 by two punches to the face and the yeah. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.280 And sometimes that's not even enough to turn no. No, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.720 But it's certainly more deterrent than just maybe the legal 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.200 system will take care for me. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.200 So I wanted to ask you, Pete, because you grew 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.800 up in HP and your and your background is a 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:14.840 little different than mine. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 What is going on it? It feels like move your 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:23.040 head to the left, like, oh wow, looks like you 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.280 had a green screen behind you. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.440 Oh is it because this little in the headphones over here? 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.280 No? No, no, I don't know what it is. It's 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:33.960 not important. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.680 But so let me ask you as somebody who grew 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:43.000 up in Newport Beach, right, Uh, based off of what 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.760 you know about the community, right, you've been down Like 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.800 one thing also I want to get rid of is 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.400 the word black community, because their communities are multiple. So 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.960 whenever I reference the black community from here on, I'll 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.240 say black America. Right, I won't use that term black 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.760 community because obviously the community I'm from, like Carson is different. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.200 I mean, and it's definitely not like you know, Westchester 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.120 or anywhere over that way or like a Rancho and 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.480 Ontario what I mean, where black people are still a 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.600 major plus and a populace, you. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.040 Know what I'm saying. Sure, but. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.560 Knowing what you know about that Rosco specifically you know 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:25.880 on Broadway many times on Maine and Manchester and let's 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.880 say he was aware that this area is an area 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.760 that's really stricken by poverty and lack of opportunities. Does 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.800 he have any accountability at all of going over there 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.800 with one hundred to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.600 worth of jewelry and pulling up in a quarter million 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:44.320 dollar car. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.800 In a non function. It's dumb. I I'll say this. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.800 I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he was trying 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.600 to go to the other one by the airport, you know, 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.119 over that one. There's actually two roscos on Manchester. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.680 Sure he was going to the right one. He'd been 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:03.640 there before. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.159 Okay, then I don't know what the fuck he was thinking. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.639 I mean, I can understand if you're from out of 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.520 town and you want to go do something like an 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.400 event or something for the community, and you want to 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.120 make a show of it, and you want to you know, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.760 give the people what they want to see, or you're 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.160 going to do something to help out. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.600 Say hey, you know, like if like we were talking on. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.040 Live earlier about money and stuff like that, if we 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.080 wanted to, like, say, go do some sort of big 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.960 wealth thing. You want to try to look wealthy to 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.800 kind of inspire people to see us, listen to us 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.600 and take the messaging or I or if you were 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:39.960 going to go to a concert, you want to give 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.760 people the show they paid to see, or that they 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.160 took the time out of their day to go see. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.320 But you just sliding over there to eat a damn 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:52.760 piece of chicken. I mean, I can understand, like you 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.600 do that ship to show people up. That's why you 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.160 do it. You know, like in baseball, you don't stare 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.639 down the picture, you don't flip the bat. The bench 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.760 is clear, you know what I mean, because you don't 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:05.720 show people up. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:07.560 So I understand that. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.280 I understand. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.840 I mean, and not only are you running around, you're 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.760 you're swimming in a shark tank with meat tied around 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:17.760 your neck or. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.800 In to that, you're also showing people up. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.119 Yeah, And that's how I thought about it. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.719 And I think my buddy had got offended when I 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:27.560 said it to him. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.720 I'm like, bro, I'm not trying to. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.160 Offend you for like, I'm just telling you, there has 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:40.320 to be a huge responsibility in Black America, specifically in 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:45.760 Black America, if not just humanity, you know what I mean, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.399 Why would you go around a bunch of poor people 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.240 who don't have anything, especially black people who are being 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:58.040 deprived of things, right and and and say, hey, I 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.959 want to look like, you know, an opportunity. I just 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.639 I don't get the logics. It could only be it 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:13.439 could only be something dog that's like negative like it 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.720 could only be like it could only be ego and 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.920 again or pride, like that's the only thing that makes sense. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.520 Okay, it's not impossible. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.400 P and B could have went to there and thought 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.320 he was going to the one on Manchester near the 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:33.480 four or five freeway. But once you're driving around, once 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:38.480 you start driving there, you could tell that it's a gloom. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.600 It's a different street on the atmosphere where you could 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.920 look and you can see, like people over here don't 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:46.560 have anything. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.679 Yeah, it's daytime. It's not open all night long. I 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.920 mean it's aside from that, you can just like there's 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.960 a lot of people over there look pretty aggressive. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.560 You know, depending on who might be there given time, 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.639 especial seeing that a little strip mall. So you know, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:06.560 I don't know, I wouldn't do it, like I one 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.080 time of all, like in my whole life, like one time, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:10.639 this girl that I used to date when I was 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.359 in the when I was living in Oakland. She stayed 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.760 out in the suburbs. We were going to a party. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.399 She wanted to get food off Seminary, you know, like 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.399 filthy rich I we talk about Seminary and east O. 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.760 Well, yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a soul 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:23.840 food spot over there. 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:24.520 I go too. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.119 Yeah, so we hit it looks like it looks like 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.560 a like a buffet type of place, but it's fire. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.320 Me neither the same place. So I had not been 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.840 through Oakland. I had lived this my first or second 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.159 week there, so I hadn't painted the city yet. I 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.720 didn't know geography. Damn, I know she lived here. 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:44.640 I don't ever. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.919 So we're going to some birthday thing after that in 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.159 the city and back then. You know, to go in 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:52.720 a lot of places at night in the urban places 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.159 you have to like have dress codes. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.679 So it's no tennis shoes, no teachers. So we were 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.399 you know, I buttoned down hard sole shoes all that ship. 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:01.440 Jesus Christ. 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.560 I had been checked so hard trying to get a 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:04.760 bite to eat in the parking lot. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.600 In my life, son. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:09.080 Of a bitch. 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.040 They see me with that girl, they see me dressed 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:12.600 up all like looking like a fish out of it. 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.960 I'd been up and down seminary one hundred times sets, 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.600 but I'm a T shirts and shorts or whatever the hell. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:17.680 But good Lord. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.480 Overthe lesson I have, Like grab scus, we go the 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.800 fucking car. Now. I don't know what happened, like you 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.600 don't know what happens. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:27.920 Nah man. 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.719 And I guess he was offended that I said it, 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.800 and I really just told him like yes, I feel 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.399 like there's a responsibility for black people doing well to 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.520 really be mindful of people that are not doing well, 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.439 Like that's the accountability, you know what I mean, Like 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:50.960 to be mindful you cannot There's a lot of this 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.919 thing going on in hip hop where it's like the 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:57.280 goal is is like, oh, I'm the man. I could 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.640 wear my jewry anywhere I go. Yeah, I could wear 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.000 my Jerry anywhere I go, you know what I mean? 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.480 And it's to say that you are so and it's 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.919 never set out of love, like, man, you know what, 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:12.719 them brothers loved me, They wouldn't. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.960 I'm so hard. No one's gonna test me anywhere. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.560 It's always that mentality, And to me, that's the thing. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.600 I don't blame hip hop for a lot of it. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.920 I don't blame hip hop for drugs. I don't blame 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.440 hip hop for people shooting at each other. But you 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.359 know the thing that I do blame hip hop for flossing. 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.439 And it went from just flossing and being happy you 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:35.320