1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The emotion is sol got to throw, wants to throw 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: it to short down, got down the thirty one yard line. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh god, it is sutiful. Welcome to the twenty in 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, and I am very 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: excited to welcome in Jack Campbell, the new Detroit Lions, 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: the number eighteen pick in the first round. Jack, Congratulations, 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of a world win twenty four hours for you. 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Huh yes, sir, Thank you, First and foremost, I just 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: want to thank the Ford family for just allow me 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: to be a part of this organization, Coach Campbell and 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: mister Holmes for believing in me and allowed me to 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: have this opportunity. I'm super excited to get to work. 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm super excited to be in the city of Detroit, 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: and I'm ready to win. 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: So let's talk about last night a little bit, or 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: I should say that the draft night. What were you 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: doing Draft night? And then what was that? Like, what's 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: what's your initial thought when that when that phone rings? 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: What's that experience like? 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: So I was just back home Cedar Falls, Iowa. Kept 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: it just my my close family, just try to enjoy 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: the night, be with the people who got me there 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: and allowed me to ultimately be here today. And then 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: I was just sitting on the couch and I saw 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: my phone started to ring and it was mister Holmes 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: and he said, how's it sound. Uh, we'd like to 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: we'd like to make you Detroit Lion. And Uh, I 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: can't really describe just the feelings of of hearing that 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: and hearing someone uh just put that belief in me 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: and give me this opportunity. Uh, Like this is my 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: childhood dream and to be here now. I mean I 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: feel like every draft prospect says it's their childhood dream. 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: But for me, just uh, the time, commitment, the passion 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: that I feel like I've put into this game to 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: finally hear someone will someone say that and an organization 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: select me? It meant the world the man, I'm super 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: excited to be in Detroit. There's there's no better place. 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: Would about being able to spend that moment with family 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and friends too. I mean, did everybody just swarm you 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: afterward it's announced? And then what what was that? That 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: rush of emotion? 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that moment was priceless. Just going around the room 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: and just sharing hugs and and words with each other. 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm just letting them know how thankful I am of them, 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: but also here them told me just how proud of 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: me that they are. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: So the interactions you had with the Lions leading up 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: to the draft, I know you guys had a formal 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: at the combine and and Kevin shepperd talk about just 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: your passion in that interview. Can you just talk about 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: just maybe that specific interview and what was it about 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: them talking ball that got you so emotional and maybe 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: thought initially that that Detroit would be a fit for you. 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: I just feel like the thing about those guys when 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I stepped foot in that room with Coach Shep, Coach Campbell, 56 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: and then Coach glenn Is, it was just all about football. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: They they didn't care about anything like of your past. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Like it's just like how much you know about football 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: and how much you love the game. And that's something 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: that I kind of gravitwarded, Like gravitated towards is just 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: people who have a genuine passion for the game. And 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I feel like any any winning culture, from little league 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: to professionals, you just gotta have kids that are passionate 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: about what they do and young men that are passionate 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: about what they do. So I feel like I kind 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: of I put my best foot forward in that meeting 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: and just kind of showed them who I am. I 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: didn't change who I was. I was just Jack Campbell 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: and that ultimately got me here. So I'm just gonna 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: continue to do that. 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: So I can tell you I've had Shep on the 72 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: podcast as well and talk about a passionate guy. 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean, are you. 74 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Excited to to to play for a position coach not 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: not only that's played the game, but is as passionate 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: as he is, And he's all about ball, He's all 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: about making young men better football players. That's got to 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: be exciting for you, isn't it. 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, Coach Shep, just all the conversations we've had 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: up to this point, like it's just all developmental, and 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: I just love that mindset from him, and also just 82 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: knowing that he's gonna he's gonna push me as hard 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: as I as I can be pushed, and he's gonna 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: squeeze every little bit of potential and stuff out of me. 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: So I'm just super excited to get to work with him. 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: And man, I just feel like I can already tell 87 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: like he's just a guy who cares about you as 88 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: a football player, but even more as. 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: A human being. 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: And that's definitely like something I'm super excited to be 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: a part of in the linebacker room here. Man, I've 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: just heard great things about that great great guys in there, 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: great human beings, and just getting to know them and 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: go out there on the field with them every single 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: day and do what we do. So I'm just super 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: excited to join the room and then just be led 97 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: by coach Shep. 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: So we talked to your college coach, coach Farent and 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: he's at this Whoever drafts Jack Campbell won't let him 100 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: leave the building for ten years? How did playing for 101 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: coach Farran and Iowa kind of sets you up for 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: success in the NFL? 103 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Coach Farrence has been around the game as long as 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: most of these coaches, and just his experience at the 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: college level is second to none. He's the longest ten 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: year head coach in college football. So like, I feel 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: like he knows a good player when he sees it. 108 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: To hear those words from him, it means a lot 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: to me. But at the same time, like just keep 110 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: in my mindset that I've always had, just always want more, 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: never never being satisfied. Obviously it's it's super nice to 112 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: have someone believe in you like that. But at the 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: same time, now I gotta go out there and show 114 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: the world who Jack Campbell is, and I'm super excited 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: to do that and get a dude at the highest level. 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: But what Coach Ferns and the IOWA programming to me 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: is just I can't put that into words. Take you 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: in as a as a young eighteen year old guy, 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: and uh churn you out as a twenty two year 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: old young man who is a great football player, because 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: you're not gonna leave I will not be a great 122 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: football player. You're gonna be fundamentally sound, smart, tough, physical, 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: and you're gonna just do it together for the full 124 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: sixty But when you step foot out of there like 125 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: this great young man, there's a lot of guys that 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: I graduated with who aren't in this position and they're 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: now into like real jobs in the outside world, and 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: I feel like they just have a leg up on 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: like everyone because they just know how to go about. 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Their business of success and that program beinging guys into 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: the league that are ready to play. You mentioned it 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: just just excited to show fans what you can do. 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: What what kind of player are fans gonna see? 134 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: What? 135 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: What is? What is Jack Campbell all about? 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like they're just gonna see 137 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna, every time he steps f on 138 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: the field, put the best version of himself out there. 139 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be Jack Campbell through and through. I'm just 140 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: gonna go out there be hard working, hard working Midwestern kid, 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: kind of carry that, carry that on my back, just 142 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: a hard worker, just ready to kind of jump in 143 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: and just get going. I feel like you're gonna get 144 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: a guy who's just gonna be a great teammate. I'm 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: always gonna put my teammates in front of myself. I 146 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: always stay humble and just allow other people to go 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: make plays, and when when my numbers called upon, just 148 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: go and take advantage of every opportunity. I feel like 149 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: that's the main thing is for me, just continuing to 150 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: take advantage of every opportunity. 151 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: I get so first impressions of Dan Aaron Glenn this defense, 152 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: it seems like you're a perfect culture fit for kind 153 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: of what they're wanting to build, who they're wanting to 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: add on defense. When they started talking ball with you, 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: just the impressions of of maybe how you fit into 156 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: this and it seems like a matchmad and heaven. 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Really Yeah, No, for sure, I'm so lucky to be 158 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: here in Detroit and be surrounded with these people in 159 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: this building because it is all about football and it's 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: all about winning, and that's that's that's stuff I'm. 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: All about as well. 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: So, but at the same time, it's it's also about 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: being a good human being and finding guys that are 164 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: going to do the right thing off the field and 165 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: push this culture to to ultimately the goal, and that's 166 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: the win the Super Bowl. 167 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: So no, we got a pretty correct research team here 168 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: with the Lions. So we went back a little bit. Now, 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: your dad, you played a guard at Northern Iowa. Correct, 170 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: He played a year with Kurt Warner, Right, he played 171 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: one year. So you were you always a You and 172 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I fan growing up, and you just got to a 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: point where you're just too good. I Yeah, I'm gonna 174 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: be a big time Power five Conference guy. 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: So growing up, yeah, I just always wanted You and 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: I games and looked up to them, and I always 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: wanted to go to the Panthers, want to be exactly 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: like play for them. But as I got through high 179 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: school opportunity to go to Iowa h and I feel 180 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: like I couldn't pass up that opportunity to go. 181 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Sure Dad wasn't too disappointed with that decision. 182 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he is. So No, it's been great. 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: So how excited you just to get to football? You 184 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: know this process is is obviously, you know you got 185 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: to do the combine and workouts and travel to the 186 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: pro days. You strike me as a guy who just 187 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of wants to get on the field and play ball. 188 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: You excited for rookie Mini camp and then to join 189 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: the Vets after that and just kind of get after 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: and get on the football field. 191 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I feel like these past couple of 192 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: months have kind of been a whose and Pony show, 193 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: a lot of verbiage, and now it's time to get 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: a getta go back to ultimately what all every single 195 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: player in this draft's trying to do, and that to 196 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: play football. And I'm super excited to jump into rookie 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: Mini camp and then get get with the veterans, be 198 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: a sponge, learned from those guys, and ultimately just help 199 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: this team in any way. 200 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: I cancel, Well, fans are really excited to see you 201 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: on the field. You're expected to be a big part 202 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: of this Detroit Lions defense. Congratulations, def pick and we're 203 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: excited to see you on the field. 204 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm super excited. 205 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Welcome back to the twenty 206 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: The Huddle Podcast presented by Microsoft, and I'm excited to 207 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: bring in Jamior Gibbs, the number twelve overall pick the 208 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: newest Detroit lines running back, Jamir, Thanks for joining me. 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: How's the day, Ben Smooth? Yeah, has it been fun? 210 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Detroit before, like a week 211 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: and a half ago for your visit? Yeah? So, but 212 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: just take me through last night and what that experience 213 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: was like being able to do it with your friends 214 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and family. You know, Brad said that at twelve you 215 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: were the best player on their board bar none, and 216 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: so to get that phone call, to be there with 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the family and friends, just what was that experience like? 218 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: It was cool having all my family or friends that's 219 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: been through this journey supporting me and I'll be in 220 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: there when that moment happened. So yeah, it was cool. 221 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: What is it like? Is it is it nervous? Is 222 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: it excitement when that phone rings and you see the number. 223 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Did you know it was Detroit? Did you have it 224 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: in the color id or was there some guesswork there? 225 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: They got the location on it. When I team called it, 226 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: they'd be like in Detroit, Michigan, or like Atlanta, Georgia 227 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: or something like that. But what's the other question? 228 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Just is it excitement when you when you see that? 229 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and relief too that. 230 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: Did you did you have an idea? Did you think 231 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: that from your visit here in conversations you had with 232 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Detroit before that this was maybe a good landing spot, 233 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: a good fit. 234 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. Yeah, I thought it was a possibility 235 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: that they could have picked me, but I didn't think 236 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: it was gonna be at twelve. 237 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: So it stems back from the Texas game. You know, 238 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: Brad was at that game and he told us, uh 239 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: draft night that that's really where you were on his radar. Well, 240 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: do you remember that game and take me back to 241 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: that a little bit. I know there was some explosive run, 242 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: some big plays. How fun was that game for you? 243 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: It was very fun. It was like my big my 244 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: first big college game. 245 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 246 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a great a great day. You know, 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: we won, came out with the wh Yeah, it was fun. 248 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: So you're joining Detroit Lions offense. I finished fourth in 249 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: the league last year offensively through for four thousand yards, 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: rush for two thousand yards. Just the excitement level of 251 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: joining an offense that's already that potent, but feels like 252 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: you can be a really big part of that too. Yeah. 253 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: I just think I could just make it. You know, 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, it takes unless something good and make it great. 255 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: You know, with what I bring to the table, with 256 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: my versatility, being able to make plays in the backfield, 257 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: return game and kitching passes at the backfield and you know, 258 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: slot wide out, I think I just whatever position they 259 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: want me, and you know I could excel at it. 260 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: Versatility that's the keyword, right, I mean that seems to 261 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: me like that that's all about your game. Here's something 262 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: that an NFC executive said about you in the pre 263 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: draft process. Whenever Alabama's offense would hit a wall, they 264 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: would get Gibbs involved in the passing game and he 265 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: would bridge the gap for them. I thought he was 266 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: veil very valuable in that way. How much do you 267 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: take pride in the fact that versatility is a big 268 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: part of your game, that you're not just a guy 269 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: the hands ball off too, and you can make big 270 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: plays that You're a guy that, like you said, can 271 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: line up in the slot, can be a big part 272 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: of the passing game, and could do a lot of 273 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: things in that regard. 274 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would think while running backs have like 275 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: a shorter lifespan in the NFL, is because most of 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: them they didn't used to just uh there there was 277 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: a versatile not a lot of them, like say like 278 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: Marshall falls back then. I mean they would just like 279 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: running to the ground, so I wouldn't be just taking 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 3: all those hits. You know, injuries happened, and uh that's 281 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: what led to the lifespan. 282 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: So where'd the hands come from? Were you always a 283 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: running back? Did you start off as a receiver just 284 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: because it seems when when you watch film on you, 285 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: it's just a natural ability to not only run routes, 286 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: but just natural hands do That's that's really a big 287 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: part of your game. Where you come from? Just natural? 288 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Did you start as a receiver? 289 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: Backyard? 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Backyard playing with my friends? 291 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: And uh was one of the ball so uh, like 292 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: seven or seven and stuff always running like goals and 293 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: posts and stuff. Diggs and all that and UH. Throughout 294 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: UH football career, I played multiple multiple positions like receiver, 295 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: running back, and I played GB two, So you know 296 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: you gotta have hands. 297 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Well versus football player. So how much research have you 298 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: done on the Detroit Lions and how excited are you 299 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: not only to join the offense as a whole, but 300 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: to run behind an offensive line? Frank ragnow Pro Bowl 301 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: player Taylor deckerd left tackle, one of the ten best 302 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: tackles in the league. Jonah Jackson's been to a Pro Bowl. 303 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Penne Sewell was at so Pro Bowl this year. I 304 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: mean there's four Pro Bowl guys, Pooble caliber guys on 305 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: that line. It's considered one of the best offensive lines 306 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: in football. How excited does a guy like you get 307 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: knowing that you'll be running behind an offensive line that's 308 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: as good as these guys are. 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, any running back would be excited to run 310 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: run through a line like that? Makes I jump a 311 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: lot easier. 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: What conversations have you had with with Ben I know 313 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: when you had your visit here, and I know you've 314 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: been around a little bit today. Just the excitement level, 315 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe how they plan to use you, how your skill 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: set maybe fits into this offense, and what have them 317 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: conversations been, like, Uh. 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: They plan use me almost like the same. 319 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 320 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: And then at Bama probably a little more hut and 321 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: wide out and stuff, running more, running more routes, not 322 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: just like goals and hitches and like slants and stuff. 323 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Probably like probably some more like more like real receiver routes. 324 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: So span my route tree a little bit more, and uh, 325 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: obviously run the ball, trying to be effective in both 326 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: assets of the game. 327 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Are you excited about that, because I mean, you're a 328 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: guy when you're in space, I mean, you are dynamic 329 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: to watch, and you've got to be excited about them 330 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: wanting to put you in position to be in space, 331 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: not just in the run game, but in the past 332 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: game as well. Yeah. 333 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what makes it fun trying to score. 334 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: So I want to get the ball as many ways 335 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: as I can, not just running the ball. 336 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: So all right, tell us a little bit about Jamior 337 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Gibbs off field. What are some of the things that 338 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: that you like to do. 339 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I's been chilling, really, that's been my my 340 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: friends and my family. My teammates probably get on the 341 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: game or something. You know, they're not much do when 342 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: I was at Bama and from where I'm at my 343 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: hometown Dawn, so it's really not too much to do. 344 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: But when I was Atlanta probably a year or something. 345 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna like Detroit. There's a lot to 346 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: do here. I know Detroit fans are going to love 347 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: watching you play. Congratulations on the number twelve pill, Welcome 348 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: to Detroit, and I know fans are really excited to 349 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: see you. 350 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 351 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Welcome back to the twenty in 352 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. And you will notice 353 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: that there is a slightly less athletic person sitting next 354 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: to me to the right. Here, I am not a 355 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: first round pick. We obviously heard from first round picks 356 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Jack Camp and first round picks Jamiir Gibbs. And now 357 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: let's go through all the picks, Peach, because I think 358 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: it was a productive day for Brad Holmes and the 359 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. They came away with seven picks, two in 360 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: the first, two in the second, two in the third, 361 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: and one in the fifth, one in the seventh. So 362 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: my math is wrong, that would be eight guys. Correct. 363 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: Let's do eight, and let's start with right away. The 364 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: first round in Jamier Gibbs. And you know, I loved 365 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: what Brad said post draft when he addressed it almost 366 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: by himself about you know, position, positional positional value. Thank you. 367 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: That's the word I was looking for. And obviously there's 368 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: some question marks with the running back position, with interior linebacker, 369 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: those are positions of value, not deem positions of value 370 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: in the first round. I love that he said, I 371 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: don't look at Jamiir Gibbs as a running back. I 372 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: look at Jamiir Gibbs as an explosive player that keeps 373 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: this offense explosive. I don't think of Jack Campbell as 374 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: a inside linebacker. I think of Jack Gibbs as a 375 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: foundational piece on defense that we can build around and 376 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things, you know. And 377 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: so I thought that was interesting take by him. 378 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: The first things first, I mean, if we're going to 379 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: start with Gibbs, I thought that the trade down was great, honestly, 380 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: just just the first at value. I think getting pick 381 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: thirty four to move back there was really a smart 382 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: move because you were able to add another, you know, 383 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: second tier player there, so you got your blue chips 384 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: and then that group from fifteen to fifty is all 385 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: kind of the same guy. You get another trick in 386 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: that range. So that was good just right off the top. 387 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: But then Jamiir Gibbs, I mean instant impact. 388 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: That's that. 389 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: I think the takeaway of the first two picks, the 390 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: first round picks for me, was just you know, this 391 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: is a team that's ready to compete, and they wanted 392 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: guys that were ready to come in and you know, 393 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: position all value be damned. We need football players that 394 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: are ready to come in and play in twenty twenty three. 395 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Jamiir Gibbs, you 396 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: look at an explosive guy. Let Alabama and rushing yards, 397 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: let him in receptions, let him in kick return yards. 398 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, he talked here earlier about, you know, really 399 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: excited about being put in a position where he can 400 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: be in space, and then you see that four to 401 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: three speed. You watch the highlights of him. I mean, 402 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: he is a one cut away from a seventy yard touchdown. 403 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: Who he reminds me of a little bit is back 404 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: back in twenty ten when the line's got job at best, 405 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: and he was that guy that was seventy yards at 406 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: any point and was a terrific wide receiver. You put 407 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: that guy in space track guy that plays football that 408 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: but you know, attract speed. But he's a real football player. 409 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: You look at him, he's all about ball, can catch 410 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: the ball, and I think, Pege you can put him 411 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: in the slot too. And it's not just you're putting 412 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: a running back in the slot because he's fast. You're 413 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: putting a running back in the slot because he has 414 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: the route tree. He's a mismatch weapon and he can 415 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: be a big part of the pass game too. I 416 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: just think he's a weapon, like Brad Holmes said. 417 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, great at Alabama last year, 418 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: but then even you go back to Georgia Tech, this 419 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: guy was ready. Alabama was the national stage to put 420 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: him on and get his name into the first round conversation. 421 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: But the Georgia Tech tape is just as good on 422 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: a far worse team. So he made the jump to 423 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: Alabama and played Tennessee and played Florida and played Georgia 424 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: and played that whole SEC gauntlet and didn't miss a beat, 425 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: which I feel like is really important when you're looking 426 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: at sustained production and sustained success. But to lead Alabama 427 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: in receptions, even if you're a running back. I feel 428 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 4: like that's got to account for something. 429 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: And that's going to be the fun part with Ben 430 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Johnson is being able to put him in spots. And 431 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: then when Jamison Williams comes back week seven, now you've 432 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: got two guys with elite, elite speed, one at wide receiver, 433 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: one at running backs slash receiver, and how you can 434 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: play off, how they can play off each other, and 435 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: how that affects a run game. And we're also not 436 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: forgetting that he's running behind arguably the top offensive line 437 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: in football, or one of the two top offensive line. 438 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: So I mean he's going to get to the second 439 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: level without being touched and then just make a guy 440 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: miss and he's gone. And you watch the film and 441 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: he can do that. And look, with the trade of 442 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, he's gonna get an early opportunity. He is 443 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: an early impact guy and it'll be fun to watch 444 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: starting week one. 445 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a coincidence that the same 446 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: things that Jamo was doing in his one year at Alabama, 447 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: they get another transfer and he comes in and he's 448 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: returning the kicks and he's going underneath and taking you 449 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: know Crossers upfield, Jamier Gibbs. It's to have both of 450 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: those guys on the same team eventually in week seven here, 451 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: it's going to be dangerous. But another thing, I mean 452 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: he mentioned it wants to expand the route tree, which 453 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: I think is really important to seeing what he can do, 454 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: seeing can he go downfield a little bit? How creative 455 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: can you get with him? And then I you know, 456 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: we talked about it with Jamo a lot last year. 457 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 4: Can we get this guy a kick return? Do you 458 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: want your first round pick returning kicks? 459 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: Is a question? But can we let him? What if 460 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: you're at Holmes? What if Brad Holmes say almost to 461 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: end his press conference post draft, he said, we want 462 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: to be good in all three phases. We want to 463 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: be great offensively, we want to be stout defensively, and 464 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: we want special teams to be a weapon. Is what 465 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: he said. How do special teams become a weapon? You 466 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: don't have a kick returner at the moment. 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 4: Maurice Alexander returned a couple of kikes last year, But 468 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: your primary guy, Justin Jackson isn't here anymore. 469 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: You give Jamison Williams, you give Jamiir Gibbs just that 470 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: much room in a kick return. And you see it 471 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: all the time with games. A big punk return touchdown, 472 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: a big kickoff return touchdown. Most games are one score games. 473 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: Special teams scores are so huge in the league. If 474 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: you want your special teams become a weapon, don't be 475 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: just good defensively and be one of the best cover teams, 476 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: which the Lions were, be explosive in return. You know 477 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: you've got a great return man in Khalif Framing's one 478 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. Now be explosive in 479 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: the kick return game with maybe one of those guys. 480 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: I think it'll be fun to watch. And it's happened before. 481 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: I mean, when Pittsburgh had Antonio Brown, he wouldn't go 482 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: back there every time, but when they needed him, he 483 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: would go and he would do it. So it's it's 484 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: possible to have your your best player back there in 485 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: Sean Jackson. 486 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, there's there's lots of examples. All right, let's 487 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: slip to the defensive side of the ball. Jack Campbell, 488 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: we heard from him earlier. Impressive young guy. Yeah, I 489 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: mean he's ready, he's ready to ball, he's ready to play. 490 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I think he would strap it up and play tomorrow 491 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: and wouldn't even care. I mean, he's that kind of guy. 492 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: He is a Dan Campbell guy. He's a culture guy. 493 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: He is Dan Campbell guy through and through. 494 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: And that's what you're looking for at the linebacker position, 495 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: especially too. I feel like if you're that leader in 496 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 4: the middle and you got a rally of the defense 497 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: and he's got a great guy to learn from and 498 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: angelone to do that and kind of groom him up here, 499 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: but you just you need to be ready to go 500 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: and in all three phases. And I think the Lions 501 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: have really gained a lot in coverage in Jack Campbell. 502 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, six four and a half two hundred and fifty pounds, 503 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: four six five forty. But you look at some of 504 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: the three cone, the shuttle, some of those you know 505 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: drills that measure a quick ability and agility. That was 506 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: number one amongst the linebackers from a six four and 507 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: a half two hundred and fifteen pound guy. He's a 508 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: big guy. I mean, I'm struggling with a lot, but 509 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the podcast we had Dan Campbell, we had, 510 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jack Campbell. I'm sitting next to all these 511 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: tall guys. You guys are leaving comments here about how 512 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: short I am. I can't help it, but it looks 513 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: you love the size with him, right, He's another one. 514 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: He's got the. 515 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 4: Wingspan you're going to get in the passing lanes at 516 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: the very least you got you can go up, you 517 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 4: can go out, and you can that's you know. Combine 518 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: that with the short agility, you really got something to 519 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: cover and. 520 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: The biggest thing to lines. Ran twenty ninth in the 521 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: league last year, defending the run thirtieth and average runs 522 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: per Carrey teams opponents averaged over five yards per Carrey. 523 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: I think that's where he helps you. Immediately. You mentioned 524 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: the past stuff. I think he does that too. But 525 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I think where we see his biggest impact is when 526 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you watch the IWOULD tape. I think what jumps out 527 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: is his reaction. He's smart, he's really really smart, and 528 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: he is north south and he gets their real quick 529 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: gap aware, he knows what he's he gets off blocks 530 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: because of his size. I think that's where he's going 531 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: to have a really big impact right away. Yeah, all right, 532 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: let's go to round two, pick thirty four, Iowa Baby, Yeah, 533 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: back to back. Sam Laporta, the tight end from Iowa. 534 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: And look, we talked about it before on this podcast 535 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: with some of the guests. We had Daniel Jeremiah before 536 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: the draft that this was one of the deeper tight 537 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: end groups in a long long time. I think Daniel 538 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: said he had eleven tight ends with day two. Grades 539 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: are better. I mean that is a And so when 540 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: you look at Laporta, he was the second one off 541 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: the board. Dalton kin kid went in the first round, 542 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and then it was Sam Laporta. I think Mayor went 543 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: right after and there was a kind of a run 544 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: on him. But what do you like about Sam Laporta 545 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: is going to be on the production is elite at 546 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: avoiding tackles. 547 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 4: I think that's where when you're comparing him to Darnell 548 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: Washington who went a little bit later, but Mayor, especially 549 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: at that top of that second round, Sam Laporta's mistackle 550 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: per inch last year is off the charts. It was 551 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: the best in the tight end class. So I think 552 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: that's what you're really getting is not only can this 553 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 4: guy move the chains and move the six get past 554 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: the six first downs first downs when he gets the 555 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: ball in his hands, he stays on his feet and 556 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: he can go. And I think that's really what stood 557 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 4: out for the Lions. 558 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: He was Iowa's offense last year, what over fifty catches, 559 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: last two hundred or last two years, over six hundred 560 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: receiving yards. I mean, he was the guy there. And 561 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I think, and you. 562 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Think about all the Iowa tight ends, this guy is 563 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: the best receiving tight end in Iowa history. And you're 564 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: looking at Kittle and Hawkinson, Dallas Clark and Noah Fan. 565 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's the top. Yeah. And also the fact 566 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: that he's joining a Detroit Lions offense that despite trading TJ. Hockinson, 567 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, midway through the season, still had twelve touchdowns 568 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: from that seasion party of twelve times, that was a 569 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: franchise record. And they had TJ. Hawkins for what six 570 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: seven weeks I think he had he had kind of 571 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: for three of those touchdowns, you still had twelve. So 572 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: get a you know, Ben Johnson's very creative and being 573 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: able to be creative with the tight ends composition. And 574 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: now you've got an athlete the caliber of Sam Laporta 575 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: in you know, in that position to mix with that 576 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: group in that this kind of scheme that obviously has 577 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: a coordinator that knows how to scheme tight ends open 578 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: and get production from them even if they're not elite players. 579 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Even though you know, I like you know Brock, right, 580 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: I like James Mitchell. I think those guys are are 581 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: still going to be a big part of it too. 582 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: Now you add Sam Laporta to the mix, I think 583 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: you've really improved your tight end group. 584 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: I think between Laporta and especially James Mitchell, who I 585 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: still really like, you have two dynamic athletes after the catch. 586 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what we saw from That's what we 587 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 4: saw year. If you could get him, you know, in 588 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: the slot underneath, and he can turn up field and 589 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 4: make a couple guys miss because he's so big, he's 590 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: got the long legs, he can do everything. Now you 591 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 4: have Sam Laporta who can do the same exact thing. 592 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: So you got two seambusters up the middle now that 593 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: can make guys miss after the catch. 594 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the defense. To go 595 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: back to the defense of the ball. Their second second 596 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: round pick, number forty five overall and PG I think 597 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: this was maybe the best value in the entire favorite 598 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: player in the class. Yeah, yeah, and it's Brian Branch 599 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: the defensive back, and I'm not calling him a cornerback. 600 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm calling him a defensive back from Alabama because look, 601 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: I know he played the majority of the time in 602 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: the nickel, and I think that's going to be his 603 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: role initially in the pros. But I think you can 604 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: move him to safety. I think in a bind, you 605 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: can put him outside. Obviously, he excels in the nickel 606 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: and that's you know, where he really shined at Alabama. 607 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: But he's just a defensive back. He's just he's a 608 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: guy that I think can be a weapon on defense. 609 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy. He's a guy that you 610 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: can move around, matchup, you can play the dying with him. Look, 611 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: you're in sub package more than seventy percent of the 612 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: time in the NFL right now. So that fifth defensive back, 613 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, imagine that's a guy like Branch who has size, 614 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: has speed, can play a number of different positions. You 615 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: can move him around as a matchup weapon. I think 616 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be really fun for Aaron Glenn. 617 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: I wrote it in our Detroit Lions Mocko traft I 618 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: Brian Branch at eighteen on Thursday night, So to get. 619 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Him atre for you Son. But this is what I wrote. 620 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: You currently have the best hybrid dB in the league 621 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 4: in c J. 622 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson. Yeah, you're adding Brian Branch. C J. 623 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: Gardner Johnson's on one year deal. If he wants to 624 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: come back, great, If he doesn't, there's one for one, 625 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: there's your replacement. 626 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, and you're looking to the future. I looked at 627 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Let's say something happens to Tracy Walker. Yeah, 628 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: so now you can move CJ. Gardner Johnson to safety 629 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: and you can put Brian Branch in the nickel. And 630 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you really you lose anything, or you 631 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: can do it the opposite way. You can. Branch can 632 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: do some safety stuff, you can keep. It gives you 633 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: options and versatile defensive backs. And that's what they what 634 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: they got was CJ. Gardner Johnson and mostly in Cam Sutton. 635 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: It gives you options back then and look, cornerback, defensive back. Safety, 636 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: it's the most injured position in football. Like you've got 637 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: to be a certain size to play that position unless 638 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: you are elite, and you've got to take on offensive 639 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: linemen in space. You've got to take on big running backs. 640 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, just the injury rate at that position is 641 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: the highest in the NFL. So you can't have enough, 642 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, really good cornerbacks, versatile cornerbacks, guys that 643 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things. That leaves your 644 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: options open. 645 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look at Branch's college career. There are 646 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: not a lot, especially of dbs that play for Nick 647 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: Saban as a true freshman and see real time. And 648 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: this guy had had seven pass breakups and two interceptions 649 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: as a true freshman on the college football playoff team. 650 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Mean, what were the stats last year? They were ridiculous. Yeah, 651 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: he had fourteen pass breakups. I think last year, I 652 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: think he had ten tackles for loss or plus ten 653 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: tackles for lost, ninety overall tackles, three sacks. 654 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: This is just a guy who does it all that 655 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: has three years of experience for Nick Saban, like really 656 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: playing as a true freshman. They're not the last guy 657 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: to have. That was Patrick's fortan and that one's worked 658 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: out pretty well on. 659 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: The pro so far. Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but 660 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: you know what else I liked about him? He stayed. 661 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he stayed. I love the 662 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: fact that there was a young man who expected to 663 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: be a first round draft pick, obviously very disappointed round 664 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: when he didn't hear his name called. Stayed there because 665 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: he wanted to experience walking out there, going on the 666 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: stage in that moment. Other guys in the room didn't, 667 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: they left. I love the fact that he stayed, wanted 668 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: to be part of that moment. To me, it tues me. 669 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: He loves ball, you know, he just he loves the ball, 670 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: He loves the moment, loves football. Just again, a Campbell 671 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: Holmes Lions type guy. 672 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: Another Lions dB that stayed after thinking he was going 673 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: in the first round, Darius A. 674 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: He's okay, all right, let's move to the third round. 675 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: And I know fans have been eager to get a 676 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in here the last couple of years. Look, Jared 677 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Golf is a guy. We both agree with that, there's 678 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: no disputing that. But they had to address the talent 679 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: in the depth of that quarterback room. Look, they resigned 680 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld. Obviously reports are out there they have. You know, 681 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: before the draft, they had a contract offered out to 682 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy, smartly, as a veteran, was going to 683 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: maybe see how the draft went. And see what his 684 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: options were that could still be in play. We'll see 685 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: how that develops afterward. But in Hooker, can I make 686 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: an admission here and you're probably not. I know you're 687 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: not going to agree with me because we've gone back 688 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: and forth on this before. Hooker was my second favorite 689 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in this class. Bold, very bold, bold, but Bryce 690 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Young was one. Look, I like c J. Stroud. I 691 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: know you like Anthony Richardson, but I like Hndon Hooker 692 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: right there with c J. Stroud. That's how much I 693 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: like it. He's a player, he's accurate, and look, I 694 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: know that Tennessee system is a little bit quirky. It's 695 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of option routes with receivers in high tempo. 696 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: But if you just watched him, and you watch how 697 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: he handled himself in the pocket the act, you receive 698 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: sixty seven eight touchdowns throughout his entire Tennessee career, and 699 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: then I think it's very underrated part of his games 700 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: he decided to take off and run. Look, he ran 701 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: for over four hundred yards or you know this past 702 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: season before the acl SO and some of those like 703 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: he finished those runs, you know, And so I think 704 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: you're getting an athletic guy. You're getting a smart guy. 705 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: People talk about his age, right, Pg's twenty five years old, 706 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: he's too old. What is the role of a backup 707 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL? Ready? When when your number is called? 708 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: And also to me, it's just sport starter. Yeah, you know, 709 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: it's to be that guy in the film room that 710 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: can see things and relay that to the quarterback. It's 711 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: that guy that helps prepare the quarterback throughout the week 712 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: to do his job better. A twenty five year old, 713 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: he sperienced guy with forty nine and two different systems. 714 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a guy that can come in and 715 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: support and help Jared Golf in the quarterback which, look, 716 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: you're right, he's got to be ready to play and 717 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 1: ready to go. But the when the the number one 718 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: guy's healthy, that job is to support the quarterback make 719 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: him better. And I think a guy that's twenty five 720 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: years old that's played as many games as hen and Hooker, 721 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: I think he can do that. 722 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what are we going to see 723 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: this year with the ACL It might be nothing, you 724 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 4: know it, really this is a down the road thing. 725 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: But you have him for four years, so let's see 726 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: what you got, but you mentioned the legs. I think 727 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing to me. We've seen what a 728 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: running quarterback can do to a defense. Jalen Hurts played 729 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: very well against the Lions last year. This is just 730 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 4: another dynamic and he doesn't have to be your starter 731 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: to come in in goal line packages. If you need 732 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: somebody to burst through QB power on the goal line 733 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 4: and get a QB sneak first down or make something 734 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 4: hap with his legs, there are sub packages that you 735 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: could throw him in and get him out there. But 736 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: as a quarterback, I mean he can throw. It's a 737 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: pitch and catch thing if guys were open. He showed 738 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: that at Tennessee. And this is a it's really an 739 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 4: ideal situation because he doesn't have to be rushed in 740 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 4: to end anything whatsoever. 741 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: He's got developmental traits, which is all you can ask for. 742 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 4: With the third round especially, I mean, it's just you 743 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: want to talk about positional value hard. 744 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we thought Day two was over. We were 745 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: getting ready to go home and enjoy it, and no, 746 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes had trader Brad, Yeah, Brad Holmes had other ideas. 747 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: He traded a fourth and two fifth round picks. That's 748 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: quite a bit of capital their page to move back 749 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: into the third round to take Roderick Martin Hilltoppers. The Hilltoppers. 750 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: I know you guys are probably saying, who Western Kentucky, 751 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, Roderick Martin. And I think this is a 752 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: great example of the value of the East West Shrine Game, 753 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: the value of the Senior Bowl, and how some of 754 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: those guys that are actually going to these events practicing 755 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: and playing football and you're being a valuable on football 756 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: can sometimes pop onto especially radars guys when they come 757 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: and they get to see because at this point, you've 758 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: just seen them dominate lower level competition. So the big 759 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: thing with those guys is going to those all star 760 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: games and playing better competition. And then now if you 761 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: still dominate or or you stand out during that week, 762 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: now what the teams do is they go back to 763 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: the tape, and they go back to the evaluation, and 764 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: then they're going to watch that tape throughout the week, 765 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: and now your projection gets better. And that was the 766 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: case with Project Martin, a three hundred and thirty pound 767 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: space eating defensive tackle knows one two technique, but when 768 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: they saw him, they saw a guy who moved like 769 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: a three hundred pound guy, like a two hundred and 770 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: ninety pound guy, not a three hundred and thirty pound guy. 771 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: So I think they see huge upside with him. Come 772 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: in here, get some technique work, strengthen his hands a 773 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: little bit. He's already got the quick step in the burst. 774 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: Now they think maybe they can give him that. He 775 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: can give them excuse need some juice in the middle, 776 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: play on the other side line of scrimmage and be 777 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: a great addition to the middle that defense with Alien McNeil, 778 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: Isaiah Bugs and those other guys. 779 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 4: He's get thirty five inch arms too, So if you're 780 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: running right up the middle, you are running into a 781 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: massive human being, which I think is important. But this 782 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 4: is just you know, you saw what the run defense 783 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 4: was we mentioned with Jack Campbell. I think this is 784 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 4: you know, this was the pick that was on the whiteboard. 785 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: It's like, we are stopping the run. This is the 786 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 4: guy that you're you're bringing in to help do that. 787 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: But I think even bigger in the past game he's 788 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: on the field, I think you might be able to 789 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: see Alle McNeil talked about cut a little bit of weight. 790 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 4: Wants to get more athletic, more consistent. Yeah, so could 791 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: we see, you know, Proderick Martin at knows Alie McNeil 792 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: play a little three pass rush a little bit more 793 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: use that athleticism. See if you can get a little 794 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: bit more juice out of a liem in the past game. 795 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 4: This could open the door for that if he doesn't 796 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: have to just play nose every snap. 797 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: They needed to add to that position. In my opinion, 798 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: that was the biggest need coming into the draft. They 799 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: need to get another body to add to that interior mix. 800 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Broderick Martin is the guy, all right, So let's go 801 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: to the final day and look the final of the 802 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: day of the draft pages. That's when you're looking for traits, right, 803 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean projectable, yeah, because I mean if guys were 804 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: clean prospects, they would have gone first, second, third round. 805 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, when through fourth or seventh, you're looking at 806 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: guys who think fit your scheme, certain traits that maybe 807 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: you really love in a football player. There might be 808 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: some deficiencies, some things guys need to improve on, but 809 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. And so the first pick 810 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: that they had, one hundred and fifty two, fifth round, 811 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: they take Corby Colby. Excuse me, sorezdel big, massive, six 812 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: foot five, three hundred pound right tackle, five year starter 813 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: at William and Mary at right tackle. But a guy again, 814 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: like we talked about with Martin, went to the East 815 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: West Shrine game, really stood out. Teams wanted to see 816 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: him at guard, which he moved to, had never played 817 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: before in college, and was really good during that week 818 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: against good competition. So I think that might be in 819 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: his future. He's got thirty three inch arms, a little 820 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: bit small for a tackle, tenant chands which aren't bad, 821 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: but you'd like to see them a little bit bigger. 822 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: I think the fact that the Lions have a need 823 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: for an interior offensive lineman. He was a guy that 824 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: moved inside at the East West rank game and almost 825 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: looked better at that spot thing tackle, I think that 826 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: could be in his future. But a versatile guy and 827 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: another guy they can just throw to an already you know, 828 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: area of strength of this football team. 829 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 4: You don't really see many offensive lineman forty six career starts, right. 830 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: I mean, this is an experienced player, so at the 831 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 4: very least, you know that's just game reps. You used 832 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 4: to live reps. And he's played ever since. He was 833 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 4: a true freshman, first offensive lineman at William and Mary 834 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 4: to started a true freshman since nineteen eighty three. Look 835 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: at you making the stats. This is for you, but 836 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: this is this is the guy. He's got ability to move. 837 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 4: You're looking at the what they on the East West 838 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 4: Shrinde Bowl from on the broadcast. He was able to 839 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 4: move laterally a little bit, get out there in space. 840 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 4: If you're running some outside zone, some wide zone, he 841 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 4: can get out there and kind of throw some blocks, 842 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: move some weight around. You know, the Lions used a 843 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 4: six offensive lineman a jumbo set more than anybody else. 844 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 4: A good point by the end of the year. Nelson 845 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: was very good at that last year and it's still here. 846 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 4: But by the end of the year, could could he 847 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 4: be out there running a little bit? You saw what 848 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 4: Sewell can do moving his weight around in Green Bay. 849 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 4: Could that be something that we see by the end 850 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 4: of the year. It's just, you know, an athlete, an 851 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 4: experienced athlete that has time to develop. 852 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: Obviously behind a great offensive line. All right, let's finish 853 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: this out. Seventh round, pick two nineteen. They moved up 854 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: thirty spots from two forty nine to nineteen in the 855 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: swift trade with Philly and they take Antoine Green. Here's 856 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: a guy from North Carolina, spent you know, five year guy, 857 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: and you look at every year he got better, substantial 858 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: for some more time, more snaps. Yeahlast year, I mean 859 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: six foot two, two hundred pounds four four seven forty 860 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: so sub four to five guy at that size, and 861 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: nineteen point zero average yards per catch, Like that's the 862 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: number that shoot out to me. He was their vertical threat. 863 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: And I think, look, we talked about you're gonna miss 864 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams for the first six weeks. I think here's 865 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to get an opportunity to come 866 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: into camp. He makes some plays, Scott size good, fifty 867 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: to fifty ball guy, vertical guy. You start to make 868 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,479 Speaker 1: some plays and maybe there's an opportunity there with James 869 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: and Williams gone for you to fit into this offense 870 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: in that kind of role of moving down the field, 871 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: maybe an X guy that they're going to maybe miss 872 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: here for the first month and a half. 873 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I think the size is the 874 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: biggest thing. So you got you got Josh Reynolds, big dude. 875 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: Marv's a big dude. But then you're looking at the rest, 876 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, Amen Ra smaller, Cleiverahimond smaller, Tom Kennedy smaller. 877 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: You got a six ' to two body out there 878 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 4: now that has experience on the outside, and the nineteen 879 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,240 Speaker 4: yards per catches is it's a real number. It's it's 880 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 4: pretty good. So you're looking downfield that that somebody can 881 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: can go up there and get it when you're you know. 882 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: He said in his media call that he had experienced 883 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: at Gunner and played a little bit of teams, which 884 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: is a seventh thrond pick you're gonna have to do 885 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 4: if you want to stick around. So that's just an 886 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 4: added bonus. But I think, really, when you're looking at, 887 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 4: you know, the Lions wide receiver room, even with Jmo 888 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 4: in it, another body at that size, it could be 889 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 4: really key. 890 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: So I look at Jamior Gibbs, I look at Jack Campbell, 891 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: I look at Sam Laporta, Brian Branch. I think these 892 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be early impact guys. Martin's got a chance 893 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: to be a rotational guy pretty early on. You mentioned 894 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: that that that swing tackle wool for Sorezdel. I think 895 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity there Green will have a chance. I think, 896 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: you know, my takeaway from this draft is I think 897 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: they got their kind of guys, and I think they 898 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: got a collection of guys that they expect to impact 899 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: football games pretty early on in their career. And I 900 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: look their rookies, you can't expect too much from a 901 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. But in terms of and Campbell especially, 902 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: and I'd even put Laporta in there, I think they're 903 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to be really impact players early on, 904 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: starting caliber guys that that end up you know, you know, 905 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: being or having a good lotman of production. And so overall, 906 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: I like the draft. I think it was a good 907 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: draft by Holmes. They got their guys. And speaking of which, 908 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: we're going to have Brad Holmes on the podcast this week. 909 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: He's going to join me this week. We're gonna go 910 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: over all these picks. We're gonna go over just kind 911 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: of what he thinks of the impact these guys gonna 912 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: are going to have and the next steps in the 913 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: off season. So what did you think of I think this. 914 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: Is a draft, a list of a team that's ready 915 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 4: to play and a team that's ready to compete right now. 916 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, you can harp on the positional value, 917 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: but when Jimior Gibbs is out there and gets fifteen 918 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: touches early on in the season and you see what 919 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: he can do with that, that changes a lot of things, 920 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 4: especially for a team that that just fundamentally wants to 921 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 4: run the ball down your throat. Between the investment and 922 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: David Montgomery, which was a real monetary investment, and then 923 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 4: the twelfth overall pick, I don't think they're shying away. 924 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: From that at all. So we've got the rookie mini 925 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: camp coming up. We'll break down that, We've got the 926 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: schedule release and we'll talk. We're gonna have Brad Holmes 927 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: on for Thursday's podcast release, and so we'll kind of 928 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: put the draft in a bow there and and move 929 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: on to some of the things in the offseason. So 930 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: we've got we've got a busy few weeks here on 931 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: the podcast. Peach, thanks for joining me, Thank you guys 932 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: for joining us, and stick around the next couple of weeks. 933 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: There's the there's a lot of content. It will be 934 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of fun podcasts.