WEBVTT - Enough is Enough ("Drawing the Line" S1 EP 14) 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.400 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:16.720 And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi guys, Hi. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.120 We are We're having another Still the Place recap. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.280 Yeah, we're all like yapping away and Courtney's like. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.000 Stop stop talking record for you people at home. These 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.760 ladies actually talk in real life. I keep saying, no, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.320 we only talk when the cameras are rolling. Real relationships 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.159 are stupid souche okay stuff. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.640 To say such a real life people. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:47.120 Yes, we're so wasted in land. What we were saying 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.000 is maybe the fans want to know is death. We 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.800 are going to have our guests back, and you know, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.440 not just once, and I think it'll be fun. Uh 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.360 you know, I have Vanessa back and we're Josie wouldn't 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.600 get back, and I start to do stuff with Jake. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.440 We'll get you know, Grant back and all of this stuff. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:05.240 I think it's great. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.000 But as we're watching them, we're thinking, oh god, this 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.560 one that's coming up today. We wish Vanessa was back 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.800 to talk about this show. So we're going to look 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.360 ahead and have our friends back more often because it's fun. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.679 We just saw Doug. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:17.760 Do you think you can get it. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:18.920 I think you'd be open to that. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.240 Maybe if I call him, I think you should maybe, 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.520 Well that dog, he's so difficult. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.880 Oh his Broadway career and all. It was so much 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.240 fun to have him. And you know, I know that 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.679 you guys have now heard the episode with him, but 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.640 I've talked reached out for a lot of my gay 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.120 friends were about my age and talked about what that 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:40.720 meant to them. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.560 It meant so much to all of them. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.520 And we talked about with Doug is that he refused 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.760 to answer whether he was gay or straight in real life, 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.560 and every single friend I've asked about that said it 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.320 meant so much to them because he wasn't distancing himself 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.040 from the gay character, so really impacted people. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.960 I was really at him to be that age and 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.560 you know, that young and an actor who a young 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:11.119 actor who needs a job, and it's not like here 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.440 we are in twenty twenty four looking back on that 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.880 era that was happening for the first time, and he 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.519 made the decision to not tell anyone, even when Aaron 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.960 and you know, the network and everyone was encouraging him. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.560 You know, just say that you're not gay, and it's 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.040 not like now to say that where people have done 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.720 it after him, you know, it's like he was on 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.119 the front lines of that. So yeah, so true. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.480 I really do to tell you guys something funny. You 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.200 at home weren't in the room, so it's all of 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.480 us in the room with Doug. And it's so funny 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.720 because Laura was so quiet, and it's one of those 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.200 moments when it's like you know too much, like you're like, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.920 I'm gonna let them ask questions because you know, everything. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.560 Was so funny. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.480 Well it really there was just so quiet. I mean, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.800 I knew that she started and yeah, no, but it 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.960 honestly is his greatest It's the thing that he's most 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.200 proud of the experience of Melrose's Place is that he's 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.800 been able to have that impact and it still is 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.760 something that he hears from people about today. So he yeah, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:14.720 he's really proud of that. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.600 That's awesome. And you know what I'm learning from Melrose's 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.280 Place in general. This first season it really did tackle 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.520 the issues and I think Courtney, as you pointed out, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:29.760 you know, it was a first really again, it wasn't 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.360 just turn in to tune out and be entertained and 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.640 in safe topics Melro's Place and Aaron Spelling and Darren 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.360 Starr and the writers really tackled these issues like the 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.920 gay bashing, and you know, I didn't know that. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:48.280 I didn't know that. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.520 So I'm really proud and impressed with, proud of and 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.440 impressed with Melo's Place and the creators at that time. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.720 And I love that Doug stepped right up to that. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.120 You know, that was real. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.200 That was so much fun. Cool. He's so fun. Your 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:04.839 husband's so fun, Laura. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:05.600 I think so too. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.440 Yeah, I love that. So cool. Yeah, you loved it. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.320 So I do think he'll be back. And we are 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.520 getting you know, one more recapped in We're riding around 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.480 the corner from Daphne coming up? 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.480 Are you after this one? 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:29.200 Fifteen? Daphney's in the next and Hope with your an 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.279 party for Joe. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.039 I think we're going to but yeah, like I feel 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.239 like this episode, episode fourteen is the first one where 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.920 I started like yelling at the television, which I think 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:44.760 is a classic experience that Melrose viewers audience members were 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.799 having in subsequent seasons. But this episode is the first 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.320 time I was yelling at the TV, like don't do 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:56.040 what a stupid choice? Like she was to me, yeah, like, 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.640 but also like I was yelling at Keith, I was 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.599 yet like, let me say yelling, you don't what I mean, like, no, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.120 what are you doing dude? Or yeah, you know that, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.440 like that sort of thing, which I think that sort 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:14.120 of exasperation is indicative of what's down the line. But tonally, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.800 I just found myself having that experience for the first 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.159 time in this episode. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:18.640 Yeah. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.919 It's like I think one of you guys made this 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.560 point last time, which is that it started before we 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.920 thought we thought of it. When you guys came on 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.839 and Heather came on that that's when it started to 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.640 get spicy. But it started getting spicy now because this 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.039 is the first time show ended, I really didn't want 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.520 to stop it. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.640 I wanted to go to the next episode because I 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:38.760 was like, what's next. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:40.880 I thought you guys started talking about I think the 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.599 last episode that it's starting to get serealized. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.960 The cliffhanger more cliff well, because Courtney, you keep bringing 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.800 up how badly there was, how badly we were doing, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.800 and how low the ratings are. So I think the writers, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.560 you know, I mean, there are a lot jobs are 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.440 on the line. They're the success of the shows on 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.560 the line, so they kind of like we're ahead of 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.560 the you know, trying throwing stuff at the stories to 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.640 see what, would you know, tense things up, spice things. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.920 Yeah, it really did get it got more exciting. I 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.080 was definitely yelling at the screen at myself, all right. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.960 Well, let's get started. This one's episode fourteen. The title 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.839 is drawing the line. We open at nighttime at Keith's 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.560 beach house, which the cliffhanger from last episode was will 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.680 she or won't she decided to end things with Keith. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.520 Allison had gone over to end it in the end 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.719 of episode thirteen, and now it's nighttime. She's on the 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.839 balcony pondering her complicated feelings when Keith comes out and 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.760 she tells him she has never felt so comfortable and loved. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.000 Okay, so this scene, I remember the scene and I 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.760 just double checked to make sure the director was an editor. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.160 And I'm not one of those actors who cries really easily, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.360 like some actors. They just go tears and they pour 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:52.960 like I have to really work on it. I have 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.680 to listen to a torri Amos sad song for you 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.240 kids out there. Tori Amos was a singing star in 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.839 the nineties and I have to listen to a sad song. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.360 So I in this opening scene cry all the time 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.680 in this episode. Know how hard this episode was to me, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.960 But so I get it together and I cry and 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.320 I get it and I'm like, oh my god, that 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.320 you know, the tears starting, like, oh the party of 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.240 your brain is in the scene party of rings, like, oh, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.640 thank god, the tears are coming. And the director came 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.040 up to me and I was like, oh, thank god 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.240 it he goes, he said, you know what and he 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.200 holds up the script. He goes, it says you cry 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.120 on this line. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:26.720 Oh. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.320 Literally, I was like, oh my god, I need to 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.840 back up right now as you can say now, I'm 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.160 sure some people can do it, right Emma Thompson can 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.600 probably cry on that Meryl Streep. I'm sure it can 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.560 have which a tear from which I I'm not that actor. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.920 But also he was an editor, so he was an editor. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.640 I literally say this, yeah, it says you cry on 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.040 this line. And I was relieved I wasn't connected to 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.360 the scene because I was crying happy tears. It wasn't 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.280 one of those where you go, oh, I know what 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.720 this is and I have a direct experience I can 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.120 connect to, so. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:02.480 I had to. 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.120 I always had something completely fabricated in my mind to 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.040 even get me there. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.880 Well, yeah, it's like, you know, it's not an acting 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.360 as an art, not a science, and you know, to 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.360 make it happen on a certain line is pretty tall order. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.480 And that's why I can't some people that answer you guys, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.480 are you guys like no criers? 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.400 Not like cry on this line? 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:28.880 No? Whoa I It depends on what you're going through. Like, yeah, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.960 there were years where I could like cry, I just 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.880 turned on my mind. Was Cheryl Wheeler or uh, I 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.439 don't know. Just some heartaching. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.280 Absolutely, But it's also hard with your crew standing by 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.840 and the pressure and it's time and it might be 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.679 lunch and whatever. There's a million. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.839 Also sometimes there's a lot of pressure to the scene. Right, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.079 I've been really connected to the scene where it literally 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.520 does happen on a line because you're so connected. This 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.800 wasn't that Like when I was rehearsing it on my own, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.160 I'm like, I got nothing. Yeah, no that's not I 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.360 got nothing. So I have to really fabricate something. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.679 And then I watched an interview with Sally Field once 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:12.040 and who I just love and loved her autobiography. But 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.600 she was saying, how you know you use something in 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.679 your own life that was very that's very sad, and 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.600 you just go there and the whole point is that 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.120 you really concentrate on it. She goes, but sometimes you know, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.439 just Grandma onto the tractor just doesn't work anymore. I'm 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.600 all dry it up. You know, It's like, there does 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.040 become a point where that memory just doesn't It's so. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:39.000 True, and you're going to access and you're like, healed. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.640 I gotta find another trauma if I gonna. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.800 Keep going, all right, So, speaking of trauma, Alison leaves 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.360 Keith and now she's coming back home to the apartment 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.640 early in the morning. Billy is awake and he's annoyed 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.880 because he says he stayed up late waiting for her. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.280 And Ellison then tells Billy that Keith is leaving his 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.360 wife for her, plus he's the best in bed. I 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.960 know what you're thinking, she says to him, was that. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.360 As uncomfortable for all of you? 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.120 That line she. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.120 Seemed very She was defending herself on a lot of levels, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.800 and Billy was rightfully annoyed. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.200 That was a weird line, don't you know anyway? 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.560 Okay, go on, he's the best in bedding and I 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.200 know what you're thinking, which she doesn't necessarily, and then 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.439 she tells Billy that life and love don't come neatly packaged. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.960 She walks out of the room. Alison is, by the way, 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:27.480 wearing a red sweater set. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.280 Here, I'm just saying, yeah, I'm I clocked that too, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.679 red sweater set. What's she going to do? 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.280 And Billy points out that she sounds like a dysfunctional 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.400 Hallmark card. She says, no, I'm in love and Keith 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.800 is in love with me, so yeah, it's. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.600 Very young, right, I'm in love and that's all that matters, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.040 and that is a anyway. I'm sure we all want 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.520 to shake Alison at this point. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.600 Well, yeah, we just it's going back and forth a law. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.360 Also, plus Billy is the voice of reason yeah in 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.280 these and you know, and we're like, yeah, Billy, you're 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.440 you're right, he's you know, this is a married man 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.800 and whatever and you've only just met and like he's 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.800 he's the voice of reason and love or not. He's 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.360 also just making sense. So you're we're just rooting for 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:15.360 Allison and Billy. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.040 I like the line where you're like, I know what 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.360 you're thinking, I've said this before or whatever, and he's like, 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.600 I'm actually still working on He's so great in bed. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.760 I'm like the processing that wordness, I mean, yeah, yeah, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.079 I know Andrew is adorable in this episode. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:31.840 Yeah. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.760 And then the next scene there's a. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.719 I cannot see these story not lines without seeing you 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.319 guys just going home and like being totally passionate or hilarious. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.240 I just can't not see it anymore. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.440 Corey hold and now awkward. You imagine how awkward that 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.040 was for Billy Moses, Like now we were like out 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.599 as a couple, we're completely a couple, and he's coming in, like, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.160 let me make out with you in front of your 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.280 actual boyfriend. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:59.360 Well, and it's confusing that Billy Moses, who's the actor 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.800 who's playing Keith, is named Billy, and the character of 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.120 Billy is played by Andrews. So like, even in my 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.120 notes a couple of times I wrote Billy when I 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:12.040 meant Keith, because it's just a million reasons to stage. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.280 So anyway, as the next scene is, there's a knock 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.240 on Ronda's apartment door and it reveals and she is 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.080 going to wear a red suit, we might add, and 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.599 she's apparently there to see the apartment. She lays on 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.800 the compliments to Ronda's good taste in decore and her 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.240 great dancer body, and she tells Ronda, Wow, you really 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.719 got it together here. She hads Ronda her resume and 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.680 letters of references, listening to her responsible attributes and she's 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.000 very particular, and she explains to Ronda that she's an 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.720 organizing professional. And Ronda's like, Wow, you sound great and 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.400 clean and you can move in right away. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:47.439 You sound amazing. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.680 And everyone in the world goes, oh, this is not 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.360 Oh yeah, this is not going to end well. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.120 But you know, I thought it was really stretched. I 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.760 don't know if you guys knew her back. I knew 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.679 ray Don a little bit in the eighties and nineties, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.520 and you know, i've seen her more recently, and she's 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:11.920 so full of life and so you know, joyful and 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.840 open hearted, and I just thought I was wondering if 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.160 this was a stretch for her to be, Like, she's 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.880 like all those callers, and you know, she's a professional organizer, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.880 like from hell, and I just was. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.319 Well, that's before it was a thing, right, she was saying, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.600 I'm an organized a professional, I'm an OP and then 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.960 Ronda says, o B And I thought that's before it 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.240 was a thing like now someone says a professional organizer, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.560 you know what it is. But I was also thinking 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.000 I will pull my covers a little bit. I was like, Oh, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:39.840 that's a good idea. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:40.559 I like that. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.920 I like that, lazy Susan, that is a very good 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.240 way to do your candidate. Really, you should say my pantry. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.800 It looked a little bit like that. I was like, oh, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.440 I have my spices alphabetized. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:50.400 I relate to that. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.320 Yeah, So it looks like it's all going to be 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.560 great between the two, and Ronda's maybe has a new roommate. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.360 So moving on, Matt is in a meeting with an 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.960 attorney and he's telling her that he was fired for 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.320 discrimination because he's gay. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.960 And the attorney warns Matt that the. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.480 Invasion of privacy and pursuing such a lawsuit is tough, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.520 but she's willing to take the case on contingency, and 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.960 she will also need five thousand dollars for costs upfront, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.000 So like, if she's taking the case on contingency, she's 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.840 going to do the work without the hourly and sort 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.120 of postpone in her face. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.320 But just so you know, it's twelve thousand dollars today, right, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.480 So that just kind of because why he that's a 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.080 five thousands a lot, but twelve thousand dollars is a lot, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:39.640 a lot, a lot. 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.440 Yeah, Yeah, sure enough his face falls at the mention 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.000 of that needing to come up with that money. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.120 And we're a little worried because he came in. Doug 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.840 came in so vulnerable, and I just thought, is she 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.080 going to say no? I was relieved when she didn't 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.320 say no, because there was a real concern. He played 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.200 so well the resistance to saying happened, and I felt 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.640 like in his playing, I heard the anticipation of her 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.400 not taking him seriously. She did, but I think because 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.240 if there was a cat well he played it. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.520 I was nervous with him that she wouldn't. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:18.560 Yeah, And we go from there to the courtyard where 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.600 Michael is on a ladder. He's replacing some roof tiles, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.600 and again we see that very cloudy sky scrim up 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.280 above the building. And while Billy helps and he fills 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.440 in Michael and Jane about Alison being in love with Keith, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.480 who was apparently ending his marriage for her. Jane is 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.880 appalled and she can't believe Alison would break up someone's marriage. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.400 She says it's so wrong, and Billy says Alison has changed. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:42.840 Michael tells Jane. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.440 Not to overdramatize, and when Jane calls Alison homewrecker, and 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.240 Jane's like, well, I'm just calling it like I see it. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.640 Just call him like I see him, she says, and 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:53.320 she walks away. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.080 I was so glad that we finally had this real 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.000 conversation that I thought it was sweet in last episode 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:03.040 when Jane was concerned about Alison, but I also I 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.160 want her to be mad, so I like this felt 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.080 really authentic to me. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.760 She calls you on it more than one yes, which 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:09.160 I love. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.840 I think it's great that she's finally having this really 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.760 authentic reaction because you know, especially once you're married, like 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.120 when you're young and saying you don't quite understand what 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.320 it means to break up a marriage, but once you're married, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.120 you really understand how sacred that bond is. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:31.040 Well, Michael, I mean, yeah, he's calling her. Michael, You're 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.800 just being dramatic. Stop calling her a homewrecker and just like, yeah, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.640 that's kind of exactly what it is, you know, And 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.080 he's doesn't see it that way. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:40.960 He said, he's laying the. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.880 I think it's fine to have affairs, no offense, it's fine. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.840 Oh you're so dramatic not being so dramatic about her 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:49.520 being a homewrecker. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.200 Didn't you read Esquire it's a normal thing. Wife. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:58.880 So then we cut to an outdoor patio restaurant where 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.320 Matt is a new employee. He's learning the ropes and 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.120 wondering how much money he can make it his new 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.679 job when he sees Jake at a table, who teases 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.240 him about his work shirt, and Matt sort of rolls 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.640 society and says, hey, it's a living though. He might 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.040 actually consider heading up his parents for the legal fees 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.199 at this rate, he says, And. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.159 He's workshirt saying bikini burgers on. Yeah, it's got kind 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.000 of where he's working. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.679 And I love that Jake is in this scene, but 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.399 I saw him like he's really underused. I know his 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.960 storyline picks up, especially when you come in death, but 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.240 I was like, he's really. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.600 Like used in these few episodes. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.040 Yeah, he's gearing up to come back, but I bet 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:35.840 he was frustrated. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.280 Well, I feel like also with an ensemble like this, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.359 what they tend to do is like story heavy a 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.359 few like with his Mom and Sandy, like story heavy, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.080 and then like you know, Alison's story and Billy story 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.200 heavy right now, and then someone else will be and 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.440 that kind of like what you tend to do throughout 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.040 the season. I mean, that's just what I was because 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.080 I agree, And then I thought, well, he just had, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.679 you know, some strong episodes. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.560 Yeah, no, and he's coming in when you come in 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.119 and hit they really he gets a lot to do. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:11.160 So here he's being Matt's number one supporter and he says, well, 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.160 what's stopping you from asking your parents for the money, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.879 And Matt says, well, my parents don't always follow the 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.960 no strings attached path and Jake asks if they know 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.840 that he's gay. Mats says, yeah, they know, but let's 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.800 just say it's seldom discussed. And then Matt's female coworker 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.760 comes up to Matt and she sort of sides lept 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.520 to him and calls him cutie and lets him know 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.639 that he has a new table, and Jake sort of 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.199 smiles and teases him and said, I think you've got 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.119 an admirer. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.200 Very cute, And. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.320 Then we cut to the courtyard where it's pouring rain, 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.760 dumping rain rain in California. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.120 Do you remember when they did rain in the set? 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.600 They machines and the I don't remember that. I thought, 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.600 that's so weird. 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.720 They bring in the rain machines. It's a huge effect. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.800 It's hugely expensive and really dramatic, and bring in the 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.640 rain action on rain. 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.080 Very and it's all that episode for a few scenes. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.800 It's all that pressure too for the actor to get 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.399 it right because it's a total reset. They have to 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.280 dry everything, you know, because just to the fans, I've 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.639 been asked this over the years. Was it a real courtyard? 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.240 Was it outside? No, it's inside, and so all that 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.720 was fake. Yeah, so, and I thought, I saw how 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.240