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Now 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: sign up with promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: sent you. What is going on, everybody, John Middlecoff, go 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: low pod on a massive, massive day for the world 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: of professional golf. Awesome thoughts on obviously Rooks Keepka and 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it's getting that much attention, but 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: he's a top twenty player. Abe answer uh leaving defecting 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: headed to Greg Norman, the South East and Live Golf, 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: which which is a really big deal, no way around it. 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Even though both guys have been rumored for a long 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: period of time. I've had Jay Monahan. They had a 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: basically a player's only meeting led by him at the 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Travelers Championship this week and some information came out and 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: it just made me shake my head. So we'll get 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: into that, and I've had a couple of days now 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to let it marinate on Will's alators and I think 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I have a take on why he resonates so much 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: with so many of us when we watch him play golf. 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Of course, to get involved on this show at go 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Low Pod, at Goal Pods, the Instagram, fire up in 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: those direct messages and get your questions answered here on 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the show. It's how we interact really easy to do. 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I try to step grate my personal Instagram for football 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: stuff and this stuff for the golf stuff. Well, the 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: football podcast out on Friday more than likely, and then 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: mail Bag as well on the weekend. But this is 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: uh this podcast we cover the PGA Tour and now 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: of course live golf. And I think the number one 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: characteristic you can have as a leader in business is 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: to be proactive and not reactive. And it's hard, right. 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Part of being a good leader is having experience and 40 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: understanding what is coming up. It's what makes a good CEO. 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: CEOs that think ahead, think of the way the world 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: is changing. Get involved in different businesses and you know, 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: involved in different streams of revenue that might not be 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: fruitful immediately, but ultimately that's where society is heading. People 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: that pivoted a streaming, people that pivoted a podcast, elon 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: pivoting to elect vehicles. I mean, we can a million 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: different examples of this video stuff. Remember when Facebook by 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Instagram that was a pretty good purchase. And part of 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: being a good leader is seeing the future. It's not easy. 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: It's why most people can't lead. That's what makes a 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: good football coach. Understanding in anticipating what is gonna happen, 52 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: not reacting to just what is happening, but understanding what 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: might happen. And I think it's fair to say as 54 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: of June one, and listen, I don't know the guy personally, 55 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: never met him, just followed him from the outside. Looks 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: like he's got a pretty good gig. Makes five and 57 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: a half million dollars of according to the records that 58 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: were published on the internet. But I think it's fair 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: to say that if I was a player on the 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: PGA tour, and I was a loyal player, and I've 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: said it my whole time, I'm not a moral high 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: horse with this guy, with this whole situation. I don't 63 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: blame any single person for living, leaving the tour heading 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: to live. I'm a ty I haven't received a W 65 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: two in almost a decade now, since two thousand sixteen, 66 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: so maybe a little less than that seven years. I 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: don't ever plan on receiving a W two. Un Listen, 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it's from my own company. I like operating the way 69 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I do. I like hunting and gathering. I like the 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: trenches of the business society. But I also with comes 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: with that is my freedom. These guys have the freedom 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: to do whatever they want. And Jay Monahan knows this, 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: and he's had this. This has been in the air 74 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: brewing for years, and today I saw that his idea 75 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: to respond to Live was to create extra tournaments throughout 76 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the season to give guys a bunch of money. And 77 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: my first response is, lives greatest asset, and the greatest 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: asset we all have is time, an available time to ourselves, 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: and we never know when time is gonna end. The 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: time we get to spend with our family, the time 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: we get to spend with doing what we want to do, 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: because most of the time that we spend in life 83 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: is either sleeping or working. So the extra time you 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: have in life is very, very valuable, and the more 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: successfully you can be financially typically the more time you're allotted. 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: So these guys that signed on with Live, even if 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: it's eight times, they play eight times this year, and 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: next year it goes to fourteen. That is still less 89 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: than the required amount that you would have to have 90 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, which is fifteen. And obviously guys 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: end up playing more than those fifteen times, but the 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: difference is on the Live Tour. I don't have to 93 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: succeed to make money if I'm Bryson, if I'm Brooks, 94 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: if I'm d J, if I'm a B Answer. Now, 95 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: obviously Brooks, DJ and Kepka got a ton of money. 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: I have no clue how much a Banswer got. Let's 97 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: just say twenty five million dollars. That's twenty five more 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: million dollars in the PGA Tour would give him to play. 99 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: They don't want to have to play to earn their 100 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: money all the time. So of course Steph Curry gets 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: port paid forty plus million dollars. The Warriors pay him 102 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: to win, but if they don't win, he still gets paid. 103 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: So these tournaments and these ideas by j Monahan to 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: me go against the greatest advantage lived. I'm giving you money. 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm handing you cash because if I'm Rory McElroy, if 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm Scotty Scheffler, if I'm Justin Thomas, if I'm Jordan's Speed, 107 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: I earned the money for the tour all year long. 108 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: When you put me in premium groups, when you put 109 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: me in the marquee groups, when you market me all 110 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: week long for the tournaments, when your tournaments used to 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: market me leading up to the tournament, that's a really 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: big deal. I am your cash cow. Find a way pip. 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: The PIP gave out forty million dollars. I've been lucky 114 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: in my life to know some people entrepreneurs, family friends 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: that started businesses by my brother married into one. People 116 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: that started businesses from scratch, had a lot of success 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: and over one of the greatest economic runs we'd ever seen, 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: from like two thousand twelve to two thousand eighteen. In 119 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: that period of time, they were able to sell their 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: businesses to VC firms for a lot of money, let's 121 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: just say, hypothetically close to that forty million dollar range 122 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to meet. Forty million dollars is a lot, but to 123 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: act like forty million dollars and and put that carrot 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: out when you have to split it whatever ten ways 125 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: is a joke. That's embarrassing. That Live, that's a that's 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: a tournament for live. The pip nice idea ten years ago. 127 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: So the money the tour is even putting out available. 128 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: J Monahan should have one single job right now, and 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: that's raising money, and that should have started years ago. 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Timing is not on his side. I 131 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you've noticed, but we're starting to have 132 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: some economic chaos. A recession is right around the corner. 133 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: You know. It's hard to do during recessions get people 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: to give you money when your asset or your business 135 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: is uncertain, because you would say, right now, the PGA Tour, 136 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know who was gonna play and who is 137 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: not gonna play on a given basis. So J Monahan 138 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: needs to raise a ton of money and maybe they 139 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: have extra money in their coffers, which would be pretty 140 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: embarrassing because that's what has been biting the moon about 141 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: for years. Where has the money gone? Jay? I think 142 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: what the PGA Tour really needs is that David Stern, 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Is it Roger Goodell someone who is hated by the media. 144 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: You know why those guys are hated by the media. 145 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: They were revenue, cutthroat generators and the media resents business 146 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: they always have, so they hated the way those guys operated. 147 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: But you know who those guys were great for everyone 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: involved in their business, the players, the owners, everyone involved 149 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: in the NBA, everyone involved in the NFL. Over David 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Stern and Roger Goodell's time has printed cash now people 151 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: have made money on Jay Monahan's watch, but now that 152 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: they have true competition with more money, it feels like 153 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Jayson over his head, and Jay feels like, right now, 154 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: it's all reactionary. It's all reacting to everything that Norman 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: and the Satis are doing. And I would say, list 156 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: if Norman and the Satis had come out of nowhere 157 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: a month ago, I'd be like, I don't blame what 158 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: the hell was he supposed to do? We have been 159 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: talking about this, these different leagues and this different big 160 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: money back Sondi league four years, but specifically like twelve 161 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: months plus hardcore. He has known this is coming now. 162 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I think he thought maybe he could avoid him. He 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: clearly didn't, and now he's lost three guys that have 164 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: combined for seven major championships, three stalwarts on the Ryder Cup. Listen, 165 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: you can say what you want about Kepko, Bryson and 166 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: DJ about where their games are at currently. Those are massive, 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: massive blows. There's no way around it. And I think 168 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the scary part is and I saw no laying up 169 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: tweet this that Brooks was telling people like two weeks ago, 170 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not leaving. These people have so much money they 171 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: can keep buying guys and it's not gonna stop. So 172 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: when they go to Pumpkin Ridge in a week and 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: they see the money that gets distributed, more and more 174 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: guys are gonna jump. More and more guys are gonna 175 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: jump at the offer of a hundred of a hundred 176 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars. And I'm not saying Jay, even if 177 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: he was Roger Goodell or David Stern, has the capability 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: of generating that type money to give out to his guys. 179 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't. But he had the opportunity for years to 180 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: be in positions where the pip is not forty million 181 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: dollars again, forty million dollars to me, forty million dollars. 182 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: I would imagine to a lot of people listening is 183 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: a shipload of money. But when you're handing out a 184 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: tenth of it two different guys who are already really rich, 185 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's peanuts, and relative to Live, it's laughable. 186 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: So I would say it's time to start questioning is 187 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,239 Speaker 1: j Monahan worthy of being the commissioner in these times 188 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: of turmoil? Of times when Greg Norman, the Saadis and 189 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: now Kepta and Brooks. These guys are waging war on 190 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: the PGA tour. And while I wouldn't say anyone's winning 191 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: or losing, the PJA stores still as stars, it is 192 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: not trending well for them and if they do not 193 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: figure it out. If I was some of these loyal, 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: staunch supporters of what the PGA tour represents, I would 195 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: start asking Jay, what are you gonna do? Ja? What 196 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: other pitches do you have? Jay? What have you been doing? 197 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Getting mad? Jim Nance at the RBC accomplished nothing. It's 198 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: no different than the media bitching and moaning about these 199 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: guys leaving for Live. No one gives a ship what 200 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: you think. I'm sorry, Clearly the players don't because they 201 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: keep leaving. They're not listening to you, So I think 202 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: it's started time to start wondering, like, what are we 203 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: doing here? If we're the PGA Tour, we can only 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: have Rom Rory and JT beat the table so much. 205 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: They can't raise the money. It's not their job. Their 206 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: job is to play. Your job is to administrate. Administrators 207 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: administrate players play, and the top players generate all the 208 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: money for those administrators. So let's figure it out. Losing 209 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: Brooks kept GOO today even though it's been rumored and 210 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: I sent it on social media. I don't know if 211 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: you guys are big Pack twelve football fans. But a 212 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: while back, Jeff Tedford's last couple of years at Cal, 213 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: he signed Keenan Allen, who is now a star wide 214 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: receiver for the Chargers. Keenan Allen was supposed to go 215 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: to Alabama and play for Nick Saban, but part of 216 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: it was it was a package deal. You also had 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: to sign his stepbrother Zack Maynard. Under no circumstances with 218 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: Nick Saban signed Zack Maynard. I don't blame him. Wasn't 219 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: worth it to him. Jeff Tedford didn't have that luxury. 220 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 1: It was worth signing Keenan Allen to come to his team, 221 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: even if it ultimately cost him because Zack Maynard became 222 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: his quarterback and it was a disaster. But when Live 223 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: signed Chase Keepka, you could see the writing on the wall. 224 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: For any of you guys that follow college basketball, it 225 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: happens all the time, right I put a guy's college 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: co or a high school coach or brother on my 227 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff to get that recruit to come to my school. Now, Brooks, clearly, 228 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say was anti Live was 229 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: not gonna do it, and a little bit like DJ, 230 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: they just kept raising their rate and then throwing his 231 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: brother a bone. And who knows even if they gave 232 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Chase Kepka five million dollars, they've taken care of him. 233 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: And yesterday or at Monday, if you're listening, on Wednesday, 234 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: they tweeted about Chase Kepka just hitting some balls. I'm like, 235 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: they are are they are recruiting Kepco right now. And 236 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: then by about Monday afternoon, he had scrubbed his Twitter 237 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: account and it was clear it was going. But I 238 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: said this last week, I'll say it again this week, 239 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: and I'll say it moving forward. You can't have a 240 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: tour full of just unlimited good guys. You have to 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: have villains, and your villains have to be able to play, 242 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: like Grayson Murray and Kevin Nah cool story for golf nerds. 243 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: The casual fan couldn't point Grayson Murray out of a map, 244 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: out of the lineup. They have no clue who that is. 245 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: But Bryson and Brooks, regardless what you think about him, 246 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: and most people have like especially with Bryson, a reaction 247 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: when you say his name. Losing him is devastating. Losing 248 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: Brooks Kepca is not good. You can't keep losing these guys. 249 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: It's one thing to lose some of these old Euros, 250 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Like I don't blame Ian Poulter, Lee Westwood and Sergeroe Garcia. 251 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: They weren't born in America. If if the PGA Tour 252 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: had been based in China or Korea, or Russia or 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: the Middle East, that's where they would have played their 254 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: whole career. It just happened to be here. I don't know. 255 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: They didn't choose to. They were forced to live in America. 256 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: But losing American stars is a big deal, and it's 257 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen more and more even I say answer, 258 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's born in Mexico. Like, I don't 259 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: blame any of these guys. I that's why I give 260 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Rom credit, like he wasn't born here, but he loves 261 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: it and he's loyal to it. I understand j T 262 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: and Jordan's and Scottie Scheffler having a lot of even 263 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Tiger having a lot of pride in the PGA tour. 264 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame the Euros for bouncing, especially because their 265 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: careers are basically over, but losing kept You can't keep 266 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: on the rate that they're losing guys, And sobol told 267 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: us last week, did everyone at the US Open basically 268 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: said when a guy says I'm not in, he might 269 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: be in. And when a guy says I'm out, keep 270 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: an eye on him. So you can't take any of 271 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: these guys at face value, and honestly, given the amount 272 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: of money, none of us. If you've never been offered 273 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty million dollars you it's so easy 274 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: for everyone on the outside to be like all blood money, 275 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: But what happens when someone offered you a hundred twenty 276 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: million dollars? I saw Charles Barkley said he'd kill a 277 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: relative for two million dollars? What what's my number? To live? 278 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: Could own me? It would probably be twenty million dollars. 279 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: I'd be gone. I don't know if I do it 280 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: for five Not that I wouldn't take five million dollars, 281 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: but would it be worth it? For everything? You could 282 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: argue even ten, I have to start really thinking, you know, 283 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: and again like I'm no moral high horse guy, but 284 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: they could easily buy me, just like most people listening. 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: They could buy you two, just like they're buying these guys. 286 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: And that's why all these guys that have been adamant. 287 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Things change, and things change fast, like Greg Norman and 288 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the sadis Jamon Hand right now is lost at sea 289 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: and they're like jaws circling him right now. Now his 290 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: boat is still erect and doesn't have any leaks. But 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a scary situation. It's a very very scary situation. 292 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: If you're the PGA tour, they have to be incredibly rattled. 293 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: There's there's just no way around it. And again back 294 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: to what I said. Originally, I just put it on 295 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: the commissioner. That's his job to administrate it. Is justin 296 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: Thomas's job to shoot good golf stores. It's Rory's job 297 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: to dial in his wedges. It is not their job 298 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: to figure out how to raise money. They're doing a 299 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: good enough job by winning tournaments and being in the 300 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: top ten of basically every tournament that matters. It's it's 301 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Jamnahan's job. And right now and again, I'm not holding 302 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: him to the standard of raising Saddi money, but he 303 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: better figure fucking something out and not forty million dollar pip. 304 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Imagine like you have a forty million dollar pip in 305 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: the NFL or the NBA, you'd be laughed out of 306 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: the room. And last, but not least, it really hit 307 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: me why I think Willie's Allie Torus, Will's alatorus Willi's Alators, 308 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: everyone calls him Willia Z Williams Alators really resonates with 309 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: us all. I think one thing we could all relate to, 310 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: every single one of us, is failure. Whether you have 311 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: been fired, whether you have been dumped, whether your business 312 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: has gone bankrupt, whether you have failed to tell. Every 313 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: single human and some more than most, have failed and 314 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: they have failed at things that they have tried very 315 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: very hard to succeed at when I've been fired in 316 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: the NFL and I was fired in radio, and I 317 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: took a lot of passion in both those things and 318 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: tried to be a successful, ambitious and do everything humanly 319 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: possible to have success in those industries. Now, the best 320 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me is being fired and 321 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: failing in those two industries. It's led me to where 322 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm at and I wouldn't trade it for anything. And 323 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: I've been dumped. It hurts, we've we've I would imagine 324 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening if they had their heart broken. 325 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: It's a very uh, you know, it's something that happens 326 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: do most people at some time in your life, maybe 327 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: when you're fifteen, maybe when you're twenty five, maybe when 328 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: you're fifty, But most people can have that happen. And 329 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: I think anyone that has lost something or failed at 330 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: something that they wanted really badly can relate to that pain. 331 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: And I think when you watch wolves Alaturus constantly fail 332 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: and get so close in these enormous tournaments. He's now 333 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: a three time major runner up. He lost in the 334 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: last two tournaments in a playoff to Justin Thomas, and 335 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: on the last hole to Matt's Fitzpatrick. You literally can't 336 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: get any closer. The only way he could have got 337 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: closer on Sunday if that ball would have lipped out, 338 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: It literally smoked the edge. And I think we watched 339 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: this guy and go this guy's resiliency because I think 340 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: the thing we all respect is I wouldn't trade my 341 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: failures in life for anything. You hear all these cliches 342 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: when you're young, like you don't learn through success, You 343 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: learned through failure. It couldn't be any truer. But the 344 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: only time you learn is going through the tough times. 345 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: And when you go through the tough times, it makes 346 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you realize either how bad you want something or how 347 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: bad you don't want something, And if you really want it, 348 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: you even work harder. And it's like part of the 349 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: reason Clay Thompson took so much joy and so much 350 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: pride in this champion ship because he tore his A 351 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: C L and he tore his achilles in back to 352 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: back years. Wills Ala Tours is so good at golf, 353 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: it's stupid. If you're listening to this, you're probably a 354 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: golf fan. We've all been watching major's and we've seen 355 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of guys sniff a major here and there, 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot of guys have had their moments. This guy 357 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: literally does it every single tournament when it matters. Go 358 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: to his Wikipegia page, go to the area where it 359 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: says you know major championship results, and see how many 360 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: top fives and top tens he's had in a short career. 361 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Four years ago, the guy was on the corn Ferry Tour. 362 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: It is a remarkable accomplishment how far he's come. But 363 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: I think a little like Phil Mickelson. Tiger was great. 364 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: He immediately kicked everyone's ass and became a legend instantly. 365 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson was kind of the opposite. Phil Mickelson was 366 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: his elite talent. Tiger laughed him, and then Phil couldn't 367 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: win a major for a long period of time. I'm 368 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: pretty sure Phil didn't win his first major till thirty 369 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: three years old, and then he's since obviously rattled off six. 370 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: But part of the reason I think Phil we kind 371 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: of felt filling our bones is he had these devastating 372 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: losses and he lost it in all different forms and fashions, 373 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and he started doing it early and then it kept happening. Basically, 374 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: all throughout his twenties, and in a weird way, when 375 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: you think the guy is a good person, you're just 376 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of drawn to him. You kind of gravitate to 377 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: that player because it's one thing to lose once, like 378 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: like you don't want the person to be the Buffalo 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Bills of golf. And right now that kind of feels 380 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: what salat Horus is. And here's the thing in golf, 381 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: in any sport in life, you're guaranteed nothing. There is 382 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: no guarantee that Wills Alaturus will ever win a major. 383 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Even though you watch him, and you've watched basically these 384 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: last two years of majors, it feels inevitable. It feels like, 385 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: how is this night guy not gonna win a major? Ironically, 386 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: he's never even won a PGA golf tournament. But I 387 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: saw today, I think he's six on in the season 388 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: on on earnings, like he's made a ton of money, 389 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: He's lived in an incredible life. He doesn't even want 390 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: a golf tournament yet as a professional. As a PGA 391 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: Tour player, he's one of the corn ferry, but he 392 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: has not one of the PGA Tour and he obviously 393 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: has not one of major but I think I started thinking, like, 394 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: why do I like this guy so much? Part of 395 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: it is I've gambled on him, but part of it 396 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: is like you feel form like we all feel when 397 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: we fail. That sucks, and uh, I think that really 398 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: makes him resonate with all of us. 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I was following him closely on Twitter. Uh. 432 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: You can hear him every week Monday through Wednesday golf 433 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Uh sirius XM channel. Uh. You find him on the 434 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: internet all over right in his betting column as well 435 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: as his Links and Locks podcast on the Action Network. Sobel, Um, 436 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot going on right now? Man, how are you doing? Bro? 437 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: This This is ridiculous. This is way too much work. 438 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: I signed up to cover golf so I could like 439 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: sit around the sun all day and watch guys hit 440 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: balls and like at the end and I read a 441 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: couple hundred words on how they played and then go home, 442 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: have a nice dinner, and that was it. I mean that, 443 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: that's what I signed up for when I started doing 444 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: this twenty years ago. It wasn't signed up for free 445 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: agency and defections and you know, trying to hostibly take 446 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: over another two Like, what is going on here? Come on, 447 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not built for this. Okay, before workload, 448 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: before we dive into the news of of Tuesday, and really, 449 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: let's let's face it, it's kind of been the elphin 450 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: in the room for a while. Uh with Brooks, let's 451 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: talk about what happened and really transpired over the weekend. 452 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: The big boys were all right there. You and I 453 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: had been talking about Fitzpatrick for a long time just 454 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: given his success um and our boy Willie Z. I mean, 455 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: no one comes through. What was your takeaway just from 456 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Sunday at ed Brookline, Yeah, so a few things. First 457 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: of all, the real winner of the week was, uh, 458 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: someone who doesn't necessarily look his age, looks a lot younger. 459 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: Someone who held off all the competitors and I really 460 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: looked fantastic throughout the entire week. I'm talking about the 461 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: country Club, not not Fitzpatrick, but the country Club is 462 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: the real winner. I thought it was awesome. The U 463 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: s g A. We have criticized them over and over 464 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: in the past when they've gotten set up wrong. Let's 465 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: at least give them credit when they get the set 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: up right. I thought it was fantastic. I was worried 467 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: going in that a hundred and twenty five yard golf 468 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: course playing seventy two hundred yards wouldn't be enough for 469 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 1: these guys, or they would have to trick it up 470 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: so much that it would be unfair and ridiculous. It 471 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: was neither of those things. I thought it was a 472 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: great venue and hopefully they get back there sooner rather 473 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: than later. As for Fitzpatrick, look, we try to prognosticate 474 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: here on the pod every single week, try to make 475 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: thicks and really get narratives, and sometimes those narratives don't 476 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: shake out. All of the narratives shook out from Matt Fitzpatrick. 477 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: He had one I don't know if you heard this 478 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: job he won s Aveateur right there in the country club. 479 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: He did take this wig by the way that you 480 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: got drink every time you hear that. But he also 481 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: there you go, I don't know what's in that cup. 482 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: He also playing some of the best cops on the 483 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. This year, he was number one in a 484 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: total strokes game before Rory had passed him just a 485 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: little bit the previous week. He also plays his best 486 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: golf on tough golf courses. He said in the past 487 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: he gets bored when it's twenty three twenty four under 488 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: winning a golf tournament. He likes when pars means something 489 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: we can go out and grind out around, don't make mistakes. 490 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly what he did in the final round. He's 491 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: got the trophy now, and he deserves every part of it, 492 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean part of this game that we love. 493 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: There's an element of randomness and luck, probably more than 494 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: any of the major sports beside maybe baseball. Right with 495 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: a ball coming into play or not, that both their 496 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: tea shots on fifteen and felt like that's when the tournament. 497 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, one guy barely misses in Salatorus and he's 498 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: in the deep rough. The other guy kind of goes 499 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Phil Tiger, sprays it to where the patrons are sitting 500 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: and so or standing and gets a way better lie 501 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: even though he was farther back and had a pretty 502 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: easy shot. And to me, that's looking back where that 503 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: I know Salatorus had a chance to win it or 504 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean push it into extra holes on eighteen, But 505 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: that was what I mean. There was two shots wing 506 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: with with four holes to go, and that's that's pretty 507 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: big in major championships, right. Yeah, But you've got to 508 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: take advantage of those breaks as well. So everyone's gonna 509 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: get good breaks, everyone's gonna get bad breaks. Over the 510 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: course of seventy two holes, you've got to take advantage 511 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: of Remember Fitzpatrick was in I'm still not quite sure 512 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: if it was the exact same bunker as John Rom 513 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: the previous day or just the bunker next to it, 514 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: But in any case, Matt Fitzpatrick and a bunker on eighteen. 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: John Rom from a similar spot made double bogey the 516 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: previous day. After getting into the lead, Matt Fitzpatrick gets 517 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: a nice cut right into the middle of the green, 518 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: two butts for far from there. So he did what 519 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: he needed to do, even sometimes when he got a 520 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: bad break like that, when he yeah, he drove it 521 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: into a bunker, but he's still made the best of it. 522 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: And that's you know, a lot of times US Open 523 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: is about making the fewest amount of mistakes rather than 524 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the most amount of parties and other good things out 525 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: there on the golf course. Did you think Sala Torus 526 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: on a teen obviously hits a fantastic drive, you know, 527 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: sets himself up, gives himself a chance for really good 528 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: approach shot. You know it's a tough spot, right, you 529 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: gotta hit it further in the hole to spin it back. 530 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: You don't want to spin it back too far. But 531 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: it felt like not that he got conservative, but he 532 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: had been dialing his wedges really close that whole back nine. 533 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: And then on that shot again, I mean he had 534 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: a look, but it was probably further, probably by double 535 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: the amount that he would have liked. Right when he 536 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: was standing over that second shot, yeah, I mean that's 537 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: a tough one to kind of look in the moment 538 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: said boy, yes, if he had to hit, you've seen 539 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: that green because it goes it heads back towards the bunker, right, 540 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a tough approach shot, it really is. 541 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: And uh, that's what made the country Club so great 542 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: is that it wasn't just bash it down there and 543 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: figure it out. There was one point I don't even 544 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: know who the analysts was talking about. I think it 545 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: was one of our guys on the radio team, but 546 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: it was John rom On seventeen maybe Saturday, if I'm 547 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: remembering correctly, and forgive me if I'm not, But he 548 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: banged one way down there, and then all of a sudden, 549 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: he had like sixty yards in the green. We're you know, 550 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: you're thinking it's only got sixty yards. It's gonna get 551 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: up and down. You know, that's really easy. Well, at 552 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: that point sixty yards. It was like hitting now hard pad. 553 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: That fairway is just so firm right there. It's really 554 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: hard to get your wedge underneath the ball and hit 555 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: a good shot there. And so that's what made the 556 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: course so interesting and so intriguing and so tough to 557 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: play for these guys. It wasn't just hey, hit it 558 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: far and the further you hit it, the better it is. 559 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: It's hey, we've got to hit it in these spots 560 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: and we've gotta miss it in the right spots, and 561 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: so you know, it's I again thought it was a 562 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: tremendous venue and uh I thought it really played out 563 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: on Wealth and tournament. But before we get into Keepko, 564 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: one of my opening takes on the podcast was, you know, listen, 565 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: we love winners, Tigers, the bradies, the curries. I mean, 566 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: they are what we you know, they become the most famous. 567 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: But there is something special about and I think Phil 568 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: fell into this category for a long time. Guys that 569 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: get so close and lose, I mean that they gain 570 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: a kind of a special rooting interest for us just 571 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: sitting on our couch. And I do think Willie's alatrus 572 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: is kind entered that category of he is an elite 573 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: player in these tournaments, and you just watch him and go, 574 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: he's got the chops, but he just falls up so short. 575 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, he blows it here, he 576 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: blows it here. I mean it's it can't get any closer. 577 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Sobel the two things. First of all, I walked through 578 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: the final pairing on the golf course for a handful 579 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: holes on Sunday afternoon. That was a very pro will 580 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: ee Zy crowd in Boston. And he has no ties 581 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: to the Boston area whatsoever, So people just gravitating towards me. 582 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: It looks like Happy Gilmore's caddy, you know, smiles when 583 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: he plays. He's a classy young kid. So people do 584 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: like him, and I think he's he's getting a lot 585 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: of fans, just like you said, maybe getting more fans 586 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: for not winning than if he was winning. That said, 587 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: look it's inevitable. I mean we can sit here and say, 588 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I think personally he's a generational ball striking talent. He's 589 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna win multiple major championships. That said, start talking to 590 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: inevitabilities in major championship, Dolphin, there's really no such thing. 591 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: We thought Colin montgom where would win a major Lee Westwood, 592 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler at one point, you know, eight years ago, 593 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: came in top five, and all of them, Patrick Cantley, 594 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: Xander Shotley. These days, oh yeah, they'll win, they'll win, 595 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: they'll win. There's only four of them every year. There's 596 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of really good players. There are no inevitabilities. 597 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: And so while I think that, yes, he's gonna get 598 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: it done, and when he gets it done, he's gonna 599 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: look back and say, boy, I'm glad I had those 600 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: experiences of getting into the mix because that really helped 601 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: me rely on on those two to go out and 602 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: win a major championship. But you never know, a decade 603 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: from now, Will's Alatoris might look back on the early 604 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: part of his career and say, boy, I really wish 605 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: I'd got it done back then, because it gets a 606 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: whole lot harder if you keep coming close and you 607 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: don't get it and you kind of feel that pressure. Agreed, Okay, 608 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: let's get to the news of the day. You know, 609 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: when they when they officially signed DJ, it was a 610 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: really big deal, even though he had been rumored for 611 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: a while. When they when they got Bryce and it 612 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: was a really big deal. And then today if you 613 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: combine them, they got seven major championships. There three stalwarts 614 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup. I mean there's three of the most 615 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: famous American players. I had dinner with the player last night, 616 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: and the player said, before we even like, you know, 617 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: shook hands, we were getting into a conversation of Hey, 618 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: here's what's going on with this What do you hear 619 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: hear about that? I'm hearing a lot of big names. 620 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Some of them maybe it's happening some of them. Maybe 621 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: they're just negotiating and sealing it out. Some of them, Uh, 622 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's just you know, a smoke screen and they're 623 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: not going at all. So a lot still left to 624 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: be determined. I'm guessing by the time this podcast is posted, 625 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: we'll have more news. And that's sort of the problem 626 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: with this The news cycle never seems to stop. John, 627 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing keeps moving and moving and moving, 628 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: and we don't know where it's going to stop. But 629 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions. There was a player 630 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: meeting earlier on Tuesday morning with Commissioner J Monahan. I 631 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: had a couple of sources telling me that there are 632 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: questions about, Hey, are these guys canna be able to 633 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: get official World Golf Ranking points and his answer was, 634 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll find out. And there was a 635 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about the DP World Tour formerly 636 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: the European Tour, and uh, there's talk that Live is 637 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: gonna try to buy the DP World Tour and what 638 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: would that mean? And Jayson, Wow, I can't really speculate, 639 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: and and so I understand his position there, but boy, 640 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: it just looks like the PGA Tour is just sitting 641 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: around on thumbs, waiting for things to happen and seeing 642 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: everything happen around it without really callings, calling into action anything. 643 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know what they can do at this point. 644 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: I really don't. You're much closer to it than I am. 645 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: But from the from where I'm sitting it, it feels 646 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: like j might be a little over his head on 647 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: this one. Uh. Is it fair to say that there 648 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: are some PGA Tour players. I know it's their organization, 649 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: but no different than the NFL. Roger works for the owners, 650 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: but there are dependent on the guy. Do you think 651 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: the confidence level in Jay's especially with the loyal guys, 652 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: right jt Rory, You see Colin pledging, Uh, Zander, it 653 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: feels like spent a little on the fence. Some of 654 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: these guys have confidence in them from what you're hearing 655 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: around these players and agents. It's the good question. I 656 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: think you'd have to ask each player individually. I'm sure 657 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: there are players who don't like the the leadership that 658 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: Jamonahan has shown over the last few weeks and months. 659 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're players, though, who think he's done a 660 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: great job. So it just kind of depends with whom 661 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: you speak. I do believe that it's a little strange 662 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: that the most vocal leaders in the game for the 663 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: PGA Tour over the last few weeks have been, as 664 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Rory McElroy and Justin Thomas and John rob 665 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: and not jame Oahan, the guy who's in charge of 666 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: all of it. And so mon An is gonna have 667 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: a press conference here tomorrow. We'll see what he has 668 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: to say, But I'm not sure what else he can 669 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: say right now that's gonna quill any of the rumors 670 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: and and stop any of the speculation. I mean, it's 671 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: it's essentially a title wave right now, and he's standing 672 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: there with this uh you know, the swimmy's on, just 673 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: trying to hopefully not get too wet. One rumor I 674 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: saw this morning, which I'm sure that came out of 675 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: that player meeting, is that they're gonna do the extra 676 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: tournaments for big money for the top players. Isn't that 677 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: kind why a lot of these guys are leaving to 678 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: play less for more. Isn't there a way to maybe 679 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: up the pip and hand out this money. Isn't that 680 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: a bad strategy? I don't know. They're just throwing stuff 681 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: against the wall at this point. I find it very 682 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: funny that a lot of these guys say they're leaving 683 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: for lives so they can play less golf. But eventually 684 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: the live schedule is going to involve fourteen events, and 685 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: so you can't skip those. I'm like PGA Tour where 686 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: you can pick and choose you essentially, if you've signed up, 687 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: you kind of have to play. I don't know, if 688 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: you get a doctor's note, if you're not feeling great, 689 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: you have to play fourteen events, and if they do, 690 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: indeed get world ranking points and you qualify for major championships. 691 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: Now you're looking at eighteen events. That's as much or 692 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: more than most of these guys want to play. So 693 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: the whole like, yeah, I want to play less some 694 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: going over the Live Tour for quality of life. That 695 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: doesn't really ring true. I don't believe that at all. Well, 696 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: what's the minimum for a PGA Tour player. It's not 697 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: like would you say, and so is it fair to 698 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: say the average guy, the top guys play somewhere between 699 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: sixteen to the low twenties. Yes, yeah, exactly. So really, 700 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: if they go you know, if live goes between fourteen 701 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: to eighteen over these next several years, which they're only 702 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna go more, it's not going to be that much different. 703 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: They just get more guaranteed money, right, the same thing. 704 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: But don't sit here and tell us, yeah, I want 705 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: to play less golf. I want to spend more time 706 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: with my family. Uh, you know, I want to kind 707 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: of have a better life for myself. And and then 708 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: go out to the Live Tour and yeah, I get, 709 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: it's only eight events this year and it's not much golf, 710 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: and you can kind of take part of the year off. 711 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: But starting next year they're looking at it I think 712 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: twelve events and by four fourteen events, and so you're 713 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: essentially playing the full schedule. And again, I don't know 714 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: exactly I've heard a rumor that if you don't play 715 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: at least one of the events that you might not 716 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: be eligible for that massive cash prize at the finale. 717 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: So it behooves these players to not skip any You know, 718 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: if you're banged up a little bit, you might as 719 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: well go play, because it doesn't really matter where you finished, 720 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: quite honestly, but it matters if you play because you 721 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: want to get that money at the end. It feels 722 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: like DJ is well liked and gets along with everyone. 723 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: But is it fair to say that. Obviously Bryson Patrick 724 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: reed and even maybe Kepka, It's not like they're gonna 725 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: be that many guys on tour that are gonna be 726 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: like like losing sleep over these guys leaving. I mean, 727 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm not a big wrestling guy, but this feels like, yeah, 728 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the good guys against the bad guys. I almost feel 729 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: like it. I get it. PGA Tour is not doing 730 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: any business to live anytime soon, lives not doing any 731 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: business with PGA Tour. But in a perfect world, with 732 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: what we have right now, maybe it's are like, al right, 733 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: well let's get six events a year, or essentially we 734 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: play like a Ryder Cup where us against you good 735 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: versus bad, you know, and and go against each other, 736 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: and maybe that's the way you save golf. I don't 737 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: even know how you do this, and I don't know 738 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: who's gonna blink first. Essentially, it would be a big 739 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: game of chicken, and it would take them coming coming 740 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: together and eating some crow and and trying to figure 741 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: this out. But for the good of the game and 742 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: for the good of the consumer, that might be the 743 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: best thing moving forward. I don't know. I don't have answers. 744 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: You and I record this on Tuesday morning. Do you 745 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: know if Keptco was in that meeting this morning, I 746 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: would imagine not. Yeah, I mean I saw you tweeting. 747 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: Do you expect him to play this weekend? No? Not really? 748 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: But he also I don't know. I haven't checked my 749 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: phone in five minutes. Maybe he's not in the field. 750 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: Like literally, I can't look away from my phone because 751 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: something else will happen at some point. As of when 752 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: we're speaking right now, uh, midday Tuesday, I believe he 753 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: is still in the field. They can't kick him out 754 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: of the field because he asked me yet played for Live. 755 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: Even if he signs a contract, would live Remember PGA 756 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: Tour only suspended players after they hit their first tea 757 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: shot at the first live event a couple of weeks ago, 758 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: and so, in theory, Brooks could stign with live play 759 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: a PGA Tour event this week. I don't know what 760 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: the motivation, we go out here and get my message 761 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,959 Speaker 1: out or something, but he, in theory, could go play 762 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: the Travelers Championship this week and then go play the 763 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: live event next. Do you think Jay had something to 764 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: do with this field because it does feel just on 765 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: paper like it's better than usual? Is it just because 766 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: the logistics to where the US Open was? I think 767 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: Jay had something to do with the RBC Canadian Open 768 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: field a few weeks ago. I think they talked to 769 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: a few of those big names and said, look, we 770 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: can't have what looks essentially like a worse field than 771 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: the uh the live of of vent in London. So 772 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Rory's the defending champ there. They 773 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: got j T and Scheffler and Burns to go play there, 774 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: and I think got helped this one this week. I'll 775 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: tell you what, Andy Sett Nathan group, the guys that 776 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: run Travelers do an awesome job. Every year. These guys 777 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: have been coming for a while now, and so this 778 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: isn't really anything new, especially when the US Open is, 779 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, just an hour and a half down the road, 780 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: and it's not a bad trip for these guys. So 781 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: this is kind of what they do every year. Uh. 782 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's turned into a really good event on 783 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: PJ Tour. Well, I saw the guy that you picked 784 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: to win. It had me smiling and I already placed 785 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: a very very large wager on him the top ten. Uh. 786 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: The the only thing I'm a little nervous about the guy. 787 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: He's elite. I mean, at one point in time, I'm 788 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: looking up Saturday kicking myself that I didn't put a 789 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: top ten on Davis Riley in the US Open. The 790 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: only thing that makes me a little nervous is he's 791 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: played a lot of golf and it's just like obviously 792 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: his talent he's bound to win. Doesn't make you nervous 793 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: as a younger player just eventually just hit one of 794 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: those tournaments that the running of gas. Again, I'm wagering 795 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: on the guy this weekend. That's the only thing that 796 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: gives me pause because this guy can play. Yeah, now 797 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: that's the least of my worries. I would worry more 798 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: about he hasn't really seen this golf course, and he's 799 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that it takes experience to go out 800 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: and and seriously contend here. But now I'm I'm not 801 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: really worried about a whole lot. Thirteen under won this 802 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: golf tournament last year, Harris English beat Kramer Hiccock and 803 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: that hundred and thirty seven whole playoff, and uh, you know, 804 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: as they kept going round and round this place. But 805 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: I'd like to see something based on what we've seen 806 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: from Davis Riley. I know he played pretty well last week, 807 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: but he tends to, at least small sample size at 808 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: this point in his career, tends to play his best 809 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: golf when the score is uh, scores are lower. So 810 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: I would like to see something in the seventeen eighteen, 811 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty range under par. I think that that fits 812 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: his game better right now, where Hey, lots of birdies 813 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: to be had out here, go out and get him 814 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to it playing tougher. So you're right. I 815 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: love Riley. I love the number on him this week 816 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: about fifties and one in most books. I think it's 817 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: a really smart play. Same trajectory we talk about Salataurs, 818 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: same exact trajectory as his buddies Altars their roommates during 819 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: the pandemic when they weren't playing golf. They're playing in 820 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: their living room instead. Uh. The only problem. The only 821 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: difference now is he's probably about six months to twelve 822 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,479 Speaker 1: months behind him on the timeline, which really isn't that much. 823 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: How about a lot of the top dogs. Obviously Scotty 824 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: just played excellent Rory, I mean another top ten in 825 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: a major. They're all here, I mean, JT S here, 826 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: Sam Burns, Xander just speak. I mean, this is a 827 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty high end, you know, at the top of this field. 828 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: You do you like any of that group too? If 829 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna place one of the elite guys. None of 830 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: them would surprise me. They're all good enough to go 831 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: out and win. None of them are trending in the 832 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: wrong direction or anything like that, So I could certainly 833 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: see any one of them the one. If I'm making 834 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: one bet on a guy with a shorter number next 835 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: to his name, it's probably Patrick Cantley. And I think 836 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: we've sort of overlooked how well Can'tley has played, because 837 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 1: his majors haven't been great. Although shot one under over 838 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: the thirty six holes on the weekend of the country 839 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: club finished to share fourteenth place. His non major finishes 840 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: have been second and third individual events. He won the 841 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: Zoro Classic with Xanders Shoffley next to him, and so 842 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: he's played really well and non major championships recently. And 843 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: so I've always thought this is a place where Patrick 844 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: Cantley was going to win shot sixty here in the 845 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: second round I believe ten eleven years ago. So he's 846 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: a guy that I've always kind of had circled for 847 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: this one, and I think he could have a big week. 848 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: Two names, one in the forty to fifty to one 849 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: range would be Brian Harmon. Guy has had success, he 850 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: had some moments last week and then just this guy's 851 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: numbers just so big, just to sprinkle is the Gala, 852 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean anytime that he's playing in these that is 853 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: this a good spot for him? You know better? I 854 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: just I just put a little I mean, his numbers 855 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: huge good course for Harmon. Just the upside hasn't quite 856 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: been there. The ceiling is not quite there. His results 857 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: aren't measuring up to his performance. You would think that 858 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: at some point he would I always like it and 859 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: I think I've used this analogy on the podcast before. 860 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: He's he's like a pitcher in baseball has got a 861 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: two seventy five r A. But he's three and nine, 862 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: and so you're like, at some point the winds are 863 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna come because he's pitching well enough to get those wins. 864 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: But I liked Harmon for a top ten this week, 865 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: Top twenty if you want to be a little more conservative, 866 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: the Gala. I don't know that it's a great course 867 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: for him. I like him more. I think on course 868 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: at this point in his career where he can go 869 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: out and bombit into some wide fairways. One guy with 870 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 1: a big number next to his name that does suit 871 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: this golf course. I was shocked when I saw the 872 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: number next to Webb Simpson's dame. Well, they haven't at Fandal. 873 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: I saw some books with eighty two one. Yes, seventy 874 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: two one. Yeah, yeah, I would take at least a 875 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: little of that. I know he's not playing his best 876 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: golf right now, but the guy knows not to win. Equity. Yeah, 877 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: there this value get you out here on this. I 878 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 1: mean I I already had a JT bet for St 879 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: Andrew's watching the weekend and just watching her DECKI, I mean, 880 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: he's just got every shot in the bag. I might 881 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: have sprinkled a little bit on him for St. Andrew's 882 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: just because his number. You know, some of these guys, 883 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: Rory's like nine to one. I got him like thirty 884 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: to one. Is there anything that you noticed Saturday and Sunday, 885 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: either with big dogs or maybe the middle tier guys 886 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: for St. Andrew's. You went, I'm gonna keep an eye 887 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: on this guy over the next month. Deckie hits such 888 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: a high ball and look, it was windy on Saturday 889 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: and he played really well. It was Saturday or Sunday, 890 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: but it was the it was the three wood. I 891 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: think Stinger on like fifteen or sixteen that Like, I 892 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: was like, okay, head deck, he's got some shots in 893 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: the bag. Yeah, I mean, I just I don't love him. 894 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: Usually in tougher conditions, I like and more dome kind 895 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: of golf. Um, but yeah, I can see it. I 896 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: think they are gonna absolutely tear up St. Andrew's if 897 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: we don't get forty wins and sideways rain. These guys 898 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: are gonna shoot sixty three's and sixty four's, Like it's 899 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 1: no big deal at that golf course the guy I like. Look, 900 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 1: it's chalky, it's the favorite on the on the board 901 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: right now. But Rory Mcilory's gonna play ridiculous golf there. 902 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: He might not win, but he is going to make 903 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: a ton of I would bet the bet i'd make 904 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: right now if you're not betting worried to to win 905 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: the event, and I don't even know if you can 906 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: find this bet, but worry to make the most birdies 907 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: in the field for the Open Championship in a few weeks. 908 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: I think is a really smart play because I just 909 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 1: see him going out there and might make some mistakes, 910 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: but he's gonna make a lot of red numbers on 911 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: the card, So I like him. Other than that, again, 912 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: look at that birdie average on the PGA Tour. Look 913 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: at the guys who aren't afraid to fill it up, 914 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: the guys who proverb your lee aren't afraid to go low. 915 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: And so I think that's who we're gonna see on 916 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: the little lege board, you know, like I said, unless 917 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: the weather comes through and we got two over winning 918 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: the golf tournament. Because you can't see straight with the 919 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: ring right into your face. To me, if if you 920 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 1: can find Rory and it might be hard at the time, 921 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: just plus odds to top ten, you know, one to 922 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: one or even like minus one ten. That feels like 923 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: a lock, doesn't it. Absolutely? I mean, the guy's had 924 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: a hell of a year. Well so Scottie Scheffler, which 925 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: feels like he's already locked in the Player of the 926 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: Year is a fair to say, I can see. So, 927 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody's gotta go on a wall. Somebody wins 928 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: the Open, Patrick or Justin Thomas wins at St. Andrews, 929 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: they've got Player of the Year. Yeah, So for that, 930 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: that's that's at least the very start of that conversation. Well, 931 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: the one thing Scotti Schefler has he's already made twelve 932 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: million dollars I saw and obviously when you're the number 933 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: one player going in the FedEx, he could rack up, 934 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, basically Clay Thompson like a season salary. Wise. 935 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to a player earlier today and we're 936 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: talking about the live and I said, you know what 937 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: the play might be instead of looking for a big 938 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 1: contract and live stay on the PGA tour, be eight 939 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: other guys in the FedEx. Up the eight guys who 940 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: are left playing the pj's already win fifteen million and 941 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: go easy. That's a good strategy. Well, thanks, enjoy the travelers, 942 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: and uh, let's go David's Riley baby. All right, all in, 943 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: take it easy, sobel okay, let's go at Golo pod 944 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: is the is my Instagram, Fire in those d m 945 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: s and at gol Pot Instagram for this golf show. 946 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: Start with us. Steve, he just forwarded me a golf 947 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: digest PGA tour plans the counter rival tour with lucrative 948 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: series for the top players. Like I said earlier, those 949 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: guys left because they wanted to get their money up front. 950 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: You have to find a way. I think that's such 951 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: a terrible idea. Like, so you're gonna make these guys 952 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: play more to earn their money, why not just hand 953 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: justin Rory raw Scotty, whoever your top guys are the ash. 954 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: Just take care of him, find a way, create some 955 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: other fake pip thing and take care of him. Don't 956 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: make them play more. That's like live's greatest you know. Example, 957 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: I I's a couple of people forwarded me I put 958 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: out on Instagram and on Twitter. Uh Brooks last week, 959 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't know why he was so edgy and dismissive. 960 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: It was almost like he got defensive because he knew 961 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: what was coming that he was gonna leave. And it's 962 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: pretty clear that going into the US Open, I mean, 963 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: he can say whatever he wants, like he was he 964 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: was going to go to the Live before you know 965 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: last week, right, So uh, maybe he committed earlier in 966 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: the week wanted to let the US Open happen. But 967 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: he he looks pretty bad after that ran he went on, 968 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: I think and again I there he just could have 969 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: easily just subtly not talked much about it, but he 970 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: got very very aggressive and defensive, which was unneeded from 971 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: Joey Chadow starting to heat up about kept good going 972 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: to live. Personally, I love seeing a new business come 973 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: in and shake up the existing stale industries. Have no 974 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: problem with Live, and I think the PGA tour has 975 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: sounded like a whiny child about the whole thing. But 976 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: in all honesty, could they have done anything different to 977 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: prevent this? I really think they should have been much 978 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: more proactive on talking to the players and going one, 979 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: how do we get you more money into how do 980 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: we take care of things like your caddies expenses. Can 981 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: we pay the caddies can part of the winnings. So 982 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: if you win, if you're Massive Fitzpatrick, you win three 983 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and we pay your caddy the ten 984 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: percent three thousand dollars instead Matt has to pay them 985 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: Like that is a huge point of difference for Live. 986 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine Live has these guys on a stipend 987 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: for food. Like when the Golden State Warriors went to 988 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, Steph Curry did not have to buy 989 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: his own dinner. Joe Laco pays for all their dinners. 990 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: Just basic things that made one of the reasons when 991 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: the tech industry really took off. And like two thousand, 992 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: nine thousand, ten and eleven, if you wanted to make 993 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: and be a younger person and make two hundred three hundred, 994 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars, you worked on Wall Street, you 995 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: worked in money, but it was just very black and white. 996 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: You showed up early, you grinded, you left late. Then 997 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: Facebook and Google and some of these these tech companies 998 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: came around. They said, you know what, you're working at 999 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks, You're working at Morgan Stanley will pay you 1000 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: two more than you're making. You're thirty year old up 1001 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: and comer. You're making what three fifty? We'll pay you five? 1002 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: Will also provide daycare, will do your dry cleaning, will 1003 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: provide breakfast, lunch, and dinner. There's a gym here, and 1004 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: they're a little nappods. It's like, where did people leave 1005 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: to work? They all went to work for tech? Why 1006 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: better life conditions, more money? Life isn't that complicated? If 1007 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm paying you a hundred grand and your life sucks 1008 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: and someone comes around and offers you two fifty with 1009 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot more perks, guess what You're gone? You know this? 1010 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 1: He could have figured out ways. It feels like Jay 1011 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: is completely over a skis because he didn't anticipate this 1012 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 1: stuff coming. How is that possible? I have nothing, I'm 1013 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: not part of the p G A hell, I've I've 1014 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: only been to PGA events as a fan, and I've 1015 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: been reading about this for eighteen months. How could it 1016 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: feel he got caught so flat footed? What do they 1017 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: tell you when you're playing defenses in basketball, getting to 1018 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: a defensive stance, bend your knees. Why so when he 1019 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: goes left or right, you're ready to move? I feel 1020 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 1: like Jay was just what was hanging out of his house. 1021 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't get it. What a shot out of the sand? 1022 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick was amazing. If I send you a video of 1023 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: my swing, are you comfortable giving me swing tips? Uh? 1024 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: Not really? You know, I'm not Clyde Harmon, I'm not 1025 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: Butch Harmon, I'm not Bote Uh Summer Hays, I'm not 1026 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, David Ledbetter, I'm not. I got my own 1027 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: swing issues. I'm working on keeping my hands farther away 1028 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: from my body. I saw a video of myself. I'm 1029 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: messed up. My alignment's messed up. My hands are too close. 1030 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: You know. I don't mind my back swing. I'd like 1031 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: to get a little smoother transition. But I would say 1032 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: d M claude Harmon, d M, Dave Ledbetter, d M. 1033 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: You know Sean Foley. I am by no means a 1034 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: swing coach. I'm just a guy that watches a lot 1035 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: of YouTube videos on how to improve your swing. I 1036 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: think any question you have, let's say you're hitting slice, 1037 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: let's say you're chunking the ball, type it into YouTube. 1038 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: I have done this countless time, struggle to bunker shots 1039 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: typed in bunker shots. You know who comes up like 1040 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: Jason Day and Tiger Woods. I struggle at basic chipping 1041 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: type it in. You know who comes up justin Thomas 1042 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: All this stuffs on YouTube. I promise you I am not. 1043 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm a struggling right now four handicap 1044 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: who's playing much more like an eight. So I would 1045 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: say that it is not. I am not a swing coach. 1046 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: I hear people talk about how they want to learn golf. 1047 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: Is the first learned power, then add direction. Total bullshit, right. 1048 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,760 Speaker 1: I think developing touch and feel is far more important. 1049 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: When I practice hitting a cut on the range, I 1050 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: take half swings first, building up to a full swing. 1051 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: Shouldn't kids learn to hit the ball this same way 1052 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: I was born in and I started playing golf in 1053 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 1: the nineties, and the equipment that we had in the nineties, 1054 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: you learn to make solid contact, consistent solid contact ball 1055 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: striking was key. It's not the way it is anymore. 1056 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: The way people teach now is power power, power, swing hard, 1057 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 1: hit it far, figure it out from there. That is out. 1058 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: Every single person I've talked to that play in college golf, 1059 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: to me, that's what I would recommend now. Practicing touch 1060 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: like around the greens. You can. You gotta practice chipping. 1061 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: But if I would learn to hit it as far 1062 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: as possible, that the technology is built for the ball 1063 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: not to go that far left or that far right, 1064 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,959 Speaker 1: if you can make solid contact, so I would say yes, 1065 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: playing Mazzoon no MP two's yes, playing the ping blades, 1066 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,959 Speaker 1: you know, playing the Ben Hogan's. You need to learn 1067 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: to swing smooth, make contacts. Swing like you know Fred Couples. 1068 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying swing like Bryson d. Shambo, but I 1069 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: don't play with many good golfers that don't hit the 1070 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 1: ball three plush yards. So I would hit the ball 1071 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: for That would be my recommendation one for the bag. 1072 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: Do you think players under the current era are undervalued 1073 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: for number of victories? The sheer volume of talent on 1074 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: tour now comparison to previous generations is not comparable. For example, 1075 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: should Rory's twenty one victories be worth more than DJs 1076 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: twenty four, Well, I'd say dj is won the majority 1077 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: of his victories against Rory, against Speech, against Tiger, against Phil, 1078 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: I'd say DJs victories are pretty legit. You know, think 1079 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: how many guys under Sergio Garcia's the Westwoods. I mean 1080 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: there have been a tont Ricky Fowler's, my guy Hunter Mahan, 1081 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: there have been a I think if you've played in 1082 00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, the Tiger era, your competence Asian 1083 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: top to bottom is a lot better than like Faldo 1084 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,760 Speaker 1: Norman not saying that like a singer, you know, Nick Price. 1085 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: There weren't other tie end, but I don't think their 1086 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: depth was even close. You know, Tom Watson, some of 1087 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: the guys, the depth was not close. So I'm with you. 1088 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: If you win thirty tournaments, now, would that be the 1089 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: equivalent of, like, I don't know, forty five in the seventies. 1090 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: Maybe now the counter would be if Jack was sitting here, 1091 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: Tom Watson was sitting here, is like, their equipment's way 1092 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: better if you gave me their equipment. If I won, 1093 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, fifty times, I might have won seventy. So 1094 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: it's I think it always gets back to I think 1095 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: it's very very difficult in professional sports to compare eras. 1096 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, what would Sarah Curry look like 1097 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 1: in the eighties? Well, what would Kareem abdul Jabbar look 1098 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: like in today's game? I don't know I think My 1099 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: answer always is they'd both be good, they'd both dominate. 1100 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: Like what would mean Joe Green do today? He'd kicked 1101 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: the ship out of everyone? What would Patrick Mahomes doing 1102 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: the seventies throw touchdowns? So I hear you, but I 1103 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: think the equipment has really changed the game and the 1104 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: ball when I when I was a kid, most people 1105 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: played ballatas Most of the balls were really soft. Honestly, 1106 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, like playing in junior high, 1107 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: even before we got to high school, probably like two 1108 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: thousand one, two thousand two, two thousand three, there was 1109 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 1: one good ball. It feels like now three or four. 1110 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: Obviously the pro V one X, the t P five 1111 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: X Bridge Stone makes a sweet ball. I mean there 1112 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: are Taylor, I said, Taylor made. I mean there are 1113 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: three legit balls, let alone the clubs. So I I 1114 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: think it's hard to play that game. I really do. 1115 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: But I I hear what you're saying, but I would 1116 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: not discount DJ. His wins are legit. I I think, 1117 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: do you ever bet on live stuff? I worked for 1118 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: sports Book and get to trade the live golf tournaments sometimes, 1119 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: and for me, it seems like it easier to pick 1120 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: winners once the tournament is live and you kind of 1121 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: get a feel for who is playing well and who isn't. 1122 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: The odds are still usually pretty long, especially in the 1123 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: first three days, unless there is someone running away with it. 1124 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: Thoughts love the golf pods. I've bet live a couple 1125 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: of times and I've been burned, so I would say 1126 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: I typically don't bet live. For example, I looked at 1127 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: the live odds on Saturday when I was drinking. I 1128 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't played golf in Northern California, The Sleeper. It's a 1129 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: Lynx golf course on the water Bedega Bay, Northern California. 1130 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: Great little course. Me and my brother went out there, played. 1131 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: It was so fucking slow, by a whole sixteen. We 1132 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: quit and we went to the barn and had the 1133 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: lunch and had some pops, and I just kept drinking 1134 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the day. And I remember looking at 1135 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: it Watson in the open and some of the odds, 1136 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: like I would have put money on John Roum, and 1137 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: I think at one point in time I looked he 1138 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: was like three to one and I would have lost. 1139 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: So I I hear you, it's I actually think it's 1140 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: easier to do a live odds in football or basketball 1141 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: when it's two teams playing each other than it is 1142 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: in golf because there are so many variables. Because if 1143 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: you bet someone live even on Sunday morning, well, if 1144 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: that guy shoots seventy five and some other dude shoot 1145 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: sixty four, your guys might not even finish in the 1146 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: top five. So I think it's easy in theory, but 1147 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: in my experience, I don't hit many. I'm better off 1148 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,439 Speaker 1: betting Wills alators before and just letting it rite out. 1149 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: Just started listening to podcast recently. It is just awesome 1150 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: as your football one. I'm twenty three and started golfing 1151 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: last summer. I started out shooting in the one twenties 1152 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: for eighteen holes. I've progressed to now shooting around consistently. 1153 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: My question is, what do you shoot roughly now and 1154 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: what did you shoot when you first started golfing. If 1155 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: I get down to the eighties by the end of summer, 1156 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: I would be thrilled. You know, I've been golfing probably 1157 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: since I was like seven eight years old. I would 1158 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: say I've been you know, I'm probably an under achiever 1159 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: at the sport. You know, I probably have hung mostly 1160 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: in the low eighties my whole life. I would not 1161 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: consider myself a great player. I've had times when I 1162 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: can get in the mid to high seventies. Right now, 1163 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm technically a foreign paper, but I don't think I'm 1164 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: playing that well. Uh. I would if I just went 1165 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: out and played right now, I would shoot somewhere between 1166 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: seventy one. But again, I've been playing. I'm thirty seven 1167 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: years old. I've been playing golf for thirty years. My 1168 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: question is, what is your recommendation for buying clubs for 1169 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: someone like me who hasn't played hardly at all, but 1170 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: grew up playing baseball, basketball and has an athletic background. 1171 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: Any certain brands used or new? By the way, I'm 1172 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: a lefty, Uh. You know, I think there's two ways 1173 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: to do it. If you're an athletic guy and you've 1174 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: never played golf, it makes sense to just buy some 1175 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: use clubs. You know, you don't need to go get 1176 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,959 Speaker 1: fitted and pay a premium a couple of thousand dollars 1177 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: to get a brand new set of clubs. I would 1178 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: go somewhere dis golf mart and buy a use set 1179 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: of clubs. Now, if you're an athletic guy, I would 1180 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: buy a better brand whether that's I play Taylor Maids, 1181 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: but Callaway's titleists whatever, get their cavity backs more forgiving 1182 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: clubs and just trying to get it reasonably priced. Now 1183 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: golf clubs are not cheap, even used in my kasha, 1184 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: But I would try to get a solid brand, a 1185 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: legitimate set of clubs, newer, uh so good technology, but 1186 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to get fitted perfectly and then kind 1187 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: of go from there, start screwing around, start playing, working 1188 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: on your game, and that that's how kind of I 1189 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: would I would go about It would be my take. Uh, 1190 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: enjoy your podcasts, all of them. Here's my question, what 1191 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: is the endgame for Live? Is it just a battle 1192 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: established another golf circuit. Is it a VanDette against the 1193 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: p g A. The money they are giving out is outrageous. 1194 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: They're never going to recoup that money anytime soon. They 1195 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: obviously don't have a TV deal, so ratings aren't iportant 1196 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: to them. Do they even have a plan in place? 1197 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I think some of the criticism of the golfers that 1198 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: switch would be less if they actually were trying to 1199 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: help establish a viable competition for the p g A. 1200 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: As I see it, Live has got more money than 1201 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: the PGA. So basically it's just an attempt at making 1202 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: good press for the Saudis. If you can point me 1203 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. I think it's 1204 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: double Anny. I think you hit it at the end. 1205 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, sports washing is what the media tells me, 1206 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: and it's when you use sports to make your regime 1207 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: or your country look better. Even though I think I 1208 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: saw Rick say this at bar stool, Like honestly, we 1209 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: never really talked about Sandy. When I talked about Sadi, 1210 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: you just talked about like that's where we get our oil. 1211 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, hell, Biden's going over there to try to 1212 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: get oil the costal or even though it's they're gonna 1213 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: say kick rocks, but like they're one of our biggest 1214 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 1: trade partners. So when they're sports washing, it's actually come 1215 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: up much more with us talking about these golfers. Now, 1216 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: are we gonna keep the same energy for a long 1217 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: period of time. Probably not. Uh, there is a vandetta. 1218 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: This was Greg Norman's had this idea for thirty years. 1219 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: Greg Norman hates the PGA tour. Greg Norman came up 1220 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: with the idea for the w g c S and 1221 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour stole them and implemented them. Greg Norman 1222 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: thinks that the PGA Tour has fucked guys like him 1223 01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: star players for decades. So Greg Norman could not do 1224 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: this alone. Greg Norman did need to find the backing. 1225 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: He did, and now he's trying to ruin the PGA Tour. 1226 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: That is his goal. So the end game. I think 1227 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: their end game is to make the Saudis look good 1228 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: and steal as many players as possible and figure it 1229 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: out from there. I don't think they have like one 1230 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: day we're playing, you know all these tournaments mean this 1231 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: will want to get a major like I don't think 1232 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: they're that far. They're just trying to develop a circuit 1233 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: to make the Saudis look good and and ruin the 1234 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. I honestly, I think it's as simple as that, 1235 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy, but that's just the reality. 1236 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Not a huge golf fan outside of Tiger in the majors, 1237 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: but I have decide with the live golfers, the p 1238 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: g A does not offer the players anything other than 1239 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: the chance to compete for money, and the players have 1240 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: to earn that opportunity. The only solution now is for 1241 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: the PGA to offer the players a true sixty forty 1242 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: transparent revenue sharing where the players get sixty of whatever 1243 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: the networks pay for each event, with the majority of 1244 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: the sixty going to the purse and the remainder in 1245 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: a form of a stipend each player that qualifies for 1246 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: each event. That player can use for expenses, lodging, caddy, 1247 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: et cetera. That way, they can still give twenty percent 1248 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: to charity and for overhead. This can all be negotiable, 1249 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: but the PGA has to act now, otherwise they will 1250 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: become the WWF because if players can still play in 1251 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: the majors, which is all that really matters. I agreed, 1252 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: every top player will eventually leave to live because the 1253 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: tour will be devalued with weak fields. Completely agree. This 1254 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: is where Jay Monahan is getting ruined by Greg Norman. 1255 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Like Greg Norman, he's not winning because he hasn't stolen 1256 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: all the players, But like you would say, if it's 1257 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: a game, he is up in the game. I mean, 1258 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: we're in the first five minutes of this. They played 1259 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: one event, and he's already taken multiple top twenty guys, 1260 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: three top twenty guys with a bunch of majors. Star 1261 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: American players Dustin Johnson, Brooks Kepka and Bryson D. Shambo 1262 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: are superstars and Phil Besides, Tiger is the most famous 1263 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: golfer since Greg Norman and and he's one of the 1264 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,919 Speaker 1: most famous golfers since like Jack and Arnie and Greg Norman. 1265 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Like he's on a shortlist, Ben Hogan. Tiger feel like 1266 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he's on the top ten list of most famous golfers 1267 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: in the history of the sport. So Greg Norman's winning 1268 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: right now, not necessarily Jay's losing, but Jay's I feel 1269 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: like Jay's against the ropes and just taking body blows 1270 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 1: from Norman. And I don't know if he has the 1271 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali ropod open him, Like eventually Greg's a couple 1272 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: of players away from Naylor and knockout blow John. Listen 1273 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: to your podcast What is your play? From a hundred 1274 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: yards to a tucked pin. I'm a member at Columbia 1275 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: Edgewater Country Club in Portland, Oregon. It's our annual l 1276 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: LPGA tour stop. If you're ever in Portland area, let 1277 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: me know, and I would love to take you out 1278 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: on my tree ship. I'd love to come. Ce c 1279 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: C is an a v make on layout and impeccable conditions. 1280 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: Wish you the best. Side note, I'm a two two currently, 1281 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: you're a pretty good player. I would say a hundred 1282 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: yards to a tuck pin is kind of this choke 1283 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: down fifty four. I wouldn't say full swing, but probably 1284 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: a ninety percent back swing and aggressive down swing. And 1285 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: if I got if it's a tuck pin, meaning I 1286 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: gotta go over a bunker, I'm planted high. I've also 1287 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: tried to implement the J. T. Phills had this forever 1288 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: kind of that low runner, you know between a hundred 1289 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: and eighty yards, kind of skips once and then stops 1290 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: skips a couple of times, which is really hard. I mean, 1291 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: I I probably need to work a little bit more 1292 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: on that, but I feel I got the hundred yards 1293 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: shot that I got hit in the air pretty good. Um, 1294 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident with that shot. I'm much less 1295 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: confident probably from like sixty to eighty eight two eight 1296 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: three tough shot for me. Still working on the kinks 1297 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: out on that one. Golf is an untapped especially for 1298 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: people like me that got serious over the vid QQ 1299 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: for the pot. What's your opinion on how the p 1300 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: j is handling Live personally. I think it's below them 1301 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and kind of childish. They have the social and physical 1302 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,919 Speaker 1: capital to improve their entertainment product a bit and get 1303 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: more investment capital to bump up the purses, but the 1304 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: suspensions and little consequences will only go so far as 1305 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 1: player public sediment continue to change for Live, which it 1306 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: already has changed a lot in a week or two. Ps. 1307 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Not sure if I speak for everyone, but I'd love 1308 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to hear your bit about your golf game each week, 1309 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: what you're working on, how you got better, or even 1310 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 1: have some stories for us normal people. It's fun to 1311 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: hear normal people navigate their golf games well. Playing against 1312 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: my brother who had labor surgery, uh like six months ago, 1313 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: and he's he's like a one or two. He's a 1314 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: good player, lefty. I was kicking his ass and we 1315 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 1: played for like fifty bucks and I was one under 1316 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: through five holes, just Bertie Putt after Bertie Putt knocked 1317 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: one tight, and I started feeling myself. I'm on a 1318 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: group text with a guy that played in the US Open, 1319 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: his brother who's a big, really good player, and my 1320 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,919 Speaker 1: brother and I got cocky. I started texting, I'm kicking 1321 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Jeff's ass, taking pictures of the scorecard. Four straight pars 1322 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,919 Speaker 1: and my birdie, I'm like, I'm going low, and then 1323 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the next that was whole five. So the next four 1324 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: holes I go five over and uh, you know I 1325 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: would have shot like eighty. So you gotta be careful 1326 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: in golf about getting too cocky early. And that happens 1327 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: to me sometimes, and it's the opposite when I start shitty. 1328 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get too down on myself. You've got a 1329 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: lot of golf left, so I'm really I need to 1330 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 1: work on my my posture that I feel like I'm 1331 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: hunched over, hands are too close to my body and 1332 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 1: it's just made for inconsistent ball striking. So yeah, I've 1333 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: already given my opinion on the on the golf stuff, 1334 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: so appreciate everyone chiming in at go lopod fire in 1335 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the d m s. You know, listen, I agree with 1336 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Justin Thomas. Ultimately this sucks. I don't want golf to 1337 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 1: be fractured. But as someone who started a golf podcast 1338 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: in two two to go along with my football podcast, 1339 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it's pretty entertaining. I don't really like it's It's added 1340 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot of content and It's become one of the 1341 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 1: bigger stories in sports because it is a pretty polarizing story, right. 1342 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: It combines famous people, sports, politics, money, it's kind of 1343 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: got it all, you know, it's kind of got it all. 1344 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: So from a content standpoint, I'll be honest, I'm not complaining, 1345 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:48,759 Speaker 1: not complaining at all. The volume