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Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdown. What's up, guys, Welcome into

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Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined

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Speaker 1: by Matt Bunny Smith. We are two weeks away from

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft and Muddy, Big and

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Speaker 1: housby yesterday, you and you and Adrian gonna be hosting

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Speaker 1: that draft party, Agains. Tell me about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've done it a few different times now, and it's

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Speaker 1: always impressive. Charger fans come out, they hang out, they

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Speaker 1: wait for the pick, whether it was on the Santa

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Speaker 1: Monica Pier and they waited all the way until twenty

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Speaker 1: eight or last year. It's so far with you know,

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Speaker 1: just Snoop Dogg and I mean a heck of a party.

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Speaker 1: Probably had thirty thousand people in there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating. You know, twenty thirty thousand people in there

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Speaker 1: for the Snoop Dogg performance drafted Zion, So you know,

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Speaker 1: why not keep it going and we'll be outside. It'll

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Speaker 1: be kind of that atrium area of the Century City Westfield,

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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming you can pack a few thousand people

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Speaker 1: in there. Petros and I gonna come out do three

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Speaker 1: to five pm. It's kind of a warm up. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: get Coach Staley and Tom and maybe Justin and Derwin

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Speaker 1: can also have him up there. So it's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for you to come out, celebrate the Chargers and see

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite players, Justin, Herbert, Irwin, James including

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Speaker 1: It's exciting twenty one overall too. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna do on that thing. They trade out,

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Speaker 1: it'll be a hell of a talk about a celebration.

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Speaker 1: Trade it out. They're gonna trade out drinking, get a

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Speaker 1: pair of twos, and money's gonna buy everybody. Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start dancing at jig is what I'm gonna do exactly. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Um. Hey Chargers fans, they

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Speaker 1: know who Brett Coleman is. Brett just did an awesome

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Speaker 1: breakdown of Kellen Moore's offense, I think part one of two,

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Speaker 1: and brought a perfect person to have on He joins

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Speaker 1: us now as we get closer to the draft, and

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Speaker 1: Brett first, thanks for joining us, man, And I want

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Speaker 1: to start with that video because it was super oppressive.

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Speaker 1: It was highly produced and I think Chargers fans really

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Speaker 1: got to kick out of it. What was it like

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Speaker 1: putting that together? It was awesome just because the Chargers

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Speaker 1: media folks are incredibly talented, and you know, working with Andrew,

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Speaker 1: we go sit down over at Golden Road and we

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Speaker 1: were sketching out exactly how we wanted to come out.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he had worked on detail with Peyton.

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Speaker 1: He's an NFL Films alum. So honestly, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do a whole lot. I show up, I record

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Speaker 1: my script, I gave it to Andrew and then he

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Speaker 1: makes it the most beautiful thing I had ever been

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Speaker 1: involved with. Like, it's just it's insane talent that the

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Speaker 1: Chargers have in their media team, you guys included. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be along for the ride. It's

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Speaker 1: a listen Charger fans if you haven't seen it, it's

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Speaker 1: Chargers dot Com. As you said, the ie candy is great,

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Speaker 1: but the breakdown is great. Bretton, I think if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, just maybe walk through. I know it's not

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Speaker 1: the same without the visual and the exo of Ale

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Speaker 1: to you, but if you can just walk through, you know,

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Speaker 1: the personnel groupings, the different types of runs, that Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore uses and why it's been so effective since he

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Speaker 1: took over, no matter who was running the ball Tony

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Speaker 1: polytter Zeke in Texas. Yeah, and they were kind of

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Speaker 1: a fascinating offense to study last year. And when I

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Speaker 1: took an even deeper dive obviously, you know, through a

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Speaker 1: Charger's lens of like what can we expect from Kellen

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Speaker 1: this was a masterful performance by an offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: I think this might be one of the best Chargers offenses,

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Speaker 1: in the draft in the offseason, but like they prioritize

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Speaker 1: So let's let Justin be Justin exploit that. And then

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Speaker 1: it sounds weird to say, take what the defense gives

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Speaker 1: and he's he's not he doesn't have such an ego

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Speaker 1: I'd still love to get more depth. I don't think

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's gonna go right guard Bread is sort

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Speaker 1: Donald Palm is still evolving in perhaps becoming that complete

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Speaker 1: It's possible, but they would have to have like a

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Speaker 1: say we need a nickel, we need a safety, or both.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Brian Branch, Let's say we invest

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Speaker 1: in a a receiver early, offensive line depth, defensive line depth.

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Speaker 1: If tight end is the one position they just don't

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Speaker 1: get to, they'll be fine with this group. But that

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Speaker 1: if you when you say speakers for people who don't

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Speaker 1: know Bret, you do incredible work breaking down draft prospects

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Speaker 1: as well, so you know all of these players when

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Speaker 1: you just look at the wide receivers that are available,

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Speaker 1: Lions with their second pick, right, we know the offense

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Speaker 1: they want to run. So yeah, Brad, I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 1: You know what though, So if you can you know

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Speaker 1: Chris's point there about about Bijean and adding to the offense.

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Speaker 1: I saw the breakdown you did with your I think

433
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Speaker 1: it was the hidden Gems and you had Roshan Johnson

434
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Speaker 1: and you were taught the way you were framing the conversation.

435
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Speaker 1: You used the Chargers. That was the team that you used,

436
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Speaker 1: like hey, yes, here's Bijean, but then here's this other

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Speaker 1: guy that you could get in the second or the

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Speaker 1: third instead, And this is how it would really work

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Speaker 1: in an offense like say the Chargers. And that's what's

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Speaker 1: unfortunate about Roshan as he was on a team with

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Speaker 1: Bijean for all that time. Right when if he goes

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Speaker 1: to any other team, you know, he's probably looked at

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Speaker 1: as like an easy top hundred pick. And I still

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Speaker 1: think he will be a top hundred pick. But he

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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of like Brian Robinson from Alabama

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Speaker 1: last year, where it's this overlooked guy who didn't really

447
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Speaker 1: you know, and Brian Robinson didn't get his full shot

448
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Speaker 1: till his last year's senior year, and he stuck it

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Speaker 1: out and he waited behind a whole bunch of dudes,

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Speaker 1: and Roshan unfortunately was behind Bijean for the last three years,

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Speaker 1: but he was still putting up a six yards to

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Speaker 1: carry and he's a former quarterback, so you could do

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Speaker 1: some real funky stuff in the red zone, like you know,

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Speaker 1: if we're getting into wildcat and all that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff you want to call something weird, you pick Roshan Johnson,

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Speaker 1: But he's a way better athlete than he's given credit for.

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Speaker 1: Good pass protector, good receiver, absolutely runs over people, great size,

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Speaker 1: extremely solid running back. Again, I still in terms of

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Speaker 1: like projected pick, he's gonna go ninety picks behind Bijan

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Speaker 1: for a reason. But if they don't get Bijean, I

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Speaker 1: would be all over Roshan Johnson in like the third

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Speaker 1: round and just love it if he was in La Brett.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember your evaluation of Isaiah Spiller. I was

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Speaker 1: actually I wasn't. I wasn't the biggest Isaiah Spiller guy.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I have like a low grade

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Speaker 1: on him. I just happened to have some really really

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Speaker 1: high grades on a whole bunch of guys ahead of him. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: what was what was hard about my Spiller evaluation was

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Speaker 1: he was running being green who was just caving in

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Speaker 1: defensive lines and giving like these eight yard canyons. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, I know, he can make a move,

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Speaker 1: but he just hasn't really had too because the Texas

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Speaker 1: Texas anim offensive line was absolutely obliterating people. But I

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Speaker 1: thought he was like a really solid prospect, you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially a three down guy, you know, your classic like

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Speaker 1: number two that if Austin needed a blow on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: you could put Spiller in there and be totally fine.

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Speaker 1: I never necessarily saw like game breaking ability, but I

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Speaker 1: definitely thought he thought he was really solid. So if

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Speaker 1: just kind of going back and Chris, sorry, I got

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Speaker 1: off the question you're asking there. So let's let's say

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Speaker 1: that you know, Zay is there, Bijan is there. Um,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get one of the top two

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Speaker 1: corners there, whether Spoon Agnsalis, they won't be there. Um,

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Speaker 1: so what if it is those two? You know, and

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Speaker 1: and you've got a joke you've got to kind of

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Speaker 1: choose between Za and Bijean, and you kind of know

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Speaker 1: what those it's just you know, that's that's a to me,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough one. It's extraordinarily tough. Um. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's an exceptional problem to have too. Yeah, right, so

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Speaker 1: let's go sign me up for that problem. Great problem

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Speaker 1: to have. I know the analytics would say go receiver

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Speaker 1: every single time. I understand that. But I also I

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Speaker 1: understand the type of coach that that Brandon's Daley is.

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Speaker 1: And this is somebody who really loves to establish pace

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Speaker 1: in the game and establish physicality in the game and

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Speaker 1: uses the run game um to to kind of get

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Speaker 1: the game into a groove, right, um to get justin

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Speaker 1: into a group to give second and six, not second

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Speaker 1: and eight. And Bijan's the type of running back that

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Speaker 1: will get you second and six even if it's blocked

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Speaker 1: for a second and eight, right. And I think having

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Speaker 1: the type of running back which they haven't necessarily had

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Speaker 1: over the last few years, of somebody who can get

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Speaker 1: fifteen carries and five catches or fifteen carries and ten

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Speaker 1: catches and you get twenty plus touches, which is a

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Speaker 1: very rare thing in the NFL these days. It's very

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Speaker 1: few backs that ever average twenty plus touches a game.

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Speaker 1: Bijean is one of the guys that I think can

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Speaker 1: do it, but he can do it in multiple ways.

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Speaker 1: He can do it as a receiver or as a runner.

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Speaker 1: You can give him low red zone carries, you can

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Speaker 1: give him high leverage, short yardage carries. Third and seven,

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Speaker 1: say go out there and win, not just against linebackers,

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Speaker 1: but against safeties. He can do that. And I think

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Speaker 1: having that type of running back that we know Staley

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Speaker 1: likes to establish pace and control of a game in

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Speaker 1: addition to having explosive game breaking ability, it's a rare

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Speaker 1: thing to have. And I think you can still get

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Speaker 1: that speed element in the receiving core, like we talked

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Speaker 1: about with some of those guys on Day two, in

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Speaker 1: Day three, because there are a bunch of them, I

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily think you can get a b John Robinson

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Speaker 1: in Day two or Day three. And he's one of

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Speaker 1: the three best players in this draft class. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, and we got a couple

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Speaker 1: You know Brett, Because we talk about Bijan, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that we don't love Austin Ekeler. And if he

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Speaker 1: is back and you have those two guys in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen Austin, especially especially during like the

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon days. We've seen him line up on the outside.

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Speaker 1: You can use Austin everywhere too, So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you could just talk about what this offense could

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Speaker 1: look like, especially with Kellen Moore calling the plays, having

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Speaker 1: a guy like Bijan or somebody comparable with Austin Ekeler.

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Speaker 1: And we saw what they did last year in Dallas

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Speaker 1: with Pollard and Zeke on the field at the same time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they ran a whole bunch of two back runs

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Speaker 1: with two halfbacks, not a fullback, but a half back

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Speaker 1: because they would use Zeke to block for Tony. And

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Speaker 1: if you can run a twenty one personnel run with

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Speaker 1: two guys on the field that could both potentially get

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Speaker 1: the rock and house that thing, it completely changes how

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Speaker 1: a defense reacts because let's just say, you know, we

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Speaker 1: get we get Bijean and Austro on the field at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Austin's in the slot, Bijean's in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: You know, we get Trey McKitty at the why, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we put Austin in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: we move Bijean up to be a fullback. You're still

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Speaker 1: not quite trusting that it's going to be a two

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Speaker 1: back run because all of a sudden, we can run

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Speaker 1: fullback scene with Beijean Robinson. He can house it for

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Speaker 1: sixty yards, so you're still kind of slow to get

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Speaker 1: downhill and play against. You know, let's say we're calling

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Speaker 1: like two back power or something like that, because we

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Speaker 1: know Bijan can and will block like he's all about that.

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Speaker 1: But if if the linebacker just hesitates a little bit

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that creates a massive crack, not

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Speaker 1: to mention, you can do some really fun stuff off

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Speaker 1: play action with that. You know, you can go. You

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Speaker 1: can go four strong. They did that in Dallas with

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Speaker 1: Zeke and Pollard running four strong, meaning four to the

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Speaker 1: strong side one guy you know, which is probably be

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Speaker 1: Mike on the backside. Like, you can do some wild

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Speaker 1: stuff with both of them on the field. It's not

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Speaker 1: an either or, it's a yes and and I if

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Speaker 1: Austin comes back, I would love that because him and

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Speaker 1: Bijon together would be I'm not even kidding, the best

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Speaker 1: running back duel in the league day one. So that

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Speaker 1: this works to go into this conversation, Chris alluded to

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Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier Brett, and look, you can

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Speaker 1: call it. It's not confirmation or recency bias. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just scar tissue. I've seen, you know, calling games for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers since twenty seventeen. I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: many four point three point leads that I've seen against

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Speaker 1: top offenses in this league, particularly the Chiefs. There's no

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Speaker 1: better way to punch your ticket into the tournament and

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Speaker 1: to win the division. That don't hold they lead, they

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Speaker 1: lose the lead. You know how it's gonna end. You're

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Speaker 1: just waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: against Brandon Staley or this Chargers defense, because he does

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Speaker 1: it to everybody. You know. He did it to the

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Speaker 1: Eagles who had seventy sacks in the year and scored

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Speaker 1: thirty five points and couldn't prevent them from scoring thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: What's I've made the case just offense that you've got

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Speaker 1: Joey Boza, Khalil Mack, Derwin James, you have got a

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Speaker 1: stacked defense that DC's would line up to be able

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Speaker 1: to coach, and they can't stop him. So what's the

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Speaker 1: point of even adding to it. Why not just say

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Speaker 1: screw it, we got to score thirty eight. Thirty one

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Speaker 1: is not going to do it, and that's the way

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Speaker 1: we've got to win the AFC. West does that make

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Speaker 1: sense to you, because I'm sure it doesn't for Brandon Staley,

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Speaker 1: defensive minded coach. But that's sort of the predicament that

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to put him in. I mean, so I

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Speaker 1: was at the Chargers Chiefs game and so far last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was down to a Lower Bowl for that game,

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Speaker 1: and it was the first time I've ever seen Mahomes live.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you've seen him live many times at this point,

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Speaker 1: and there's this almost like sense of dread and inevitability,

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Speaker 1: you know, when he gets the percent two minutes And

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Speaker 1: I would really prefer that script be flipped, where don't

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Speaker 1: you dare give Justin Herbert the ball with two minutes left, which,

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Speaker 1: to a degree it already is like I think the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs the only team they're really scared of is the

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Speaker 1: Chargers because the Chargers play them better than anybody consistently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I would really love it if if we just

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Speaker 1: kind of lean into Justin Herbert is the big bad wolf.

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Speaker 1: Give him everything he needs, and as long as he

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Speaker 1: has the ball last, we're good. We're winning the game.

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Speaker 1: It's the big twelve, literally twelve, that's it. Just let

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Speaker 1: him score. Make sure you leave us sixty five seconds

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Speaker 1: and you're good, You'll win the game. It just it feels,

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Speaker 1: it feels as though in the AFC right now, on

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Speaker 1: that path to the Super Bowl, it's Burrow, it's Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes, and it's only gonna get tougher, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's only it's only going to get harder. It's

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Speaker 1: so I think, you know, not to just reiterate, it's

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Speaker 1: you've already said it all, but like that, it just

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Speaker 1: feels like that's the right approach, Like it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: foolish to think your defense is gonna shut all of

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Speaker 1: these offenses down and route to a Super Bowl berth.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't even got to twenty twenty four when

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Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams and Drake May are coming like exactly the

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Speaker 1: two Yeah, like what do you do? NFC? Yeah? And

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Speaker 1: bread the face. You know. It's it's funny too, because

644
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about Lamar and where's Lamar gonna go?

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I guess ob J makes

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Speaker 1: everything fine. I don't know, I mean, I guess Lamar

647
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Speaker 1: is gonna stay in the AFC. So there's yet another

648
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Speaker 1: another threat in the conference at the quarterback position. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned Kayleb Williams and in May coming out next year. Um,

650
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Speaker 1: I'm with money, man, I just think you have to

651
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Speaker 1: load up offensively. Um, we're kind of in that third

652
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Speaker 1: and fourth and fifth wave of free agency coming. I

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Speaker 1: guess over the next month. Is there anybody out there,

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Speaker 1: especially at the wide receiver position, with speed that you

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Speaker 1: think could be a nice fit for this offense? Oh Man?

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Speaker 1: In terms of still available, Um, off top, here's a

657
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: reason they're still available, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean

658
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: defensively last year they made some big moves getting Morgan

659
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Speaker 1: Fox and Kyle Vannoy late and and those guys all

660
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Speaker 1: contributed late in the year. But offensively, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a challenge. Yeah, because if

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Speaker 1: you can run four four, you're gonna have a job

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Speaker 1: usually before April starts. Yeah, So I think if they

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Speaker 1: are going to get that, it is going to be

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Speaker 1: through the draft. Luckily for them, there's a million dudes

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Speaker 1: in this class that can run four four. I'm looking,

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Speaker 1: I don't see him. I'm on Greg Rosenthal's top one

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Speaker 1: hundred still available. There's not a single receiver. So I

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Speaker 1: think they've they've all been uh, they've all been snatched up.

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Speaker 1: And it's like you said that the good news is

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Speaker 1: depth in the in the draft. Let's say, you know what, Brett,

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Speaker 1: let's let's at least entertain the idea that that Brandon

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Speaker 1: Staley's got some pull in that war room when twenty

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Speaker 1: one is up there, and look, there's there's some interesting

675
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Speaker 1: defensive players. We already talked about Brian Branch you mentioned more.

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Speaker 1: We have not talked about the defensive lineman. I think

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Speaker 1: the one that a lot of people have kind of

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Speaker 1: sort of at least put a pin in and kind

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Speaker 1: of said, oh, you know, Brandon Staleaklijah Cancy, Is he

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? No? But you know there are some of

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Speaker 1: those at least characteristic, same uniform, same penetrating ability. Just

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Speaker 1: kind of your thoughts of maybe the players defensively that

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Speaker 1: might be available that could make a big impact on

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Speaker 1: a team that has its sights set on the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl this year. You know, I think a big thing is, Okay,

686
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: we're prioritizing insider outside because it's two very different skill sets.

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Speaker 1: If they're looking at an edge or really just a

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Speaker 1: either an outside linebacker or or like a true defensive end.

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Speaker 1: If we're looking there, I would I would kind of

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Speaker 1: like to find Staley's new version of Leonard Floyd, like

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Speaker 1: a young Leonard Floyd, somebody who can play that Sam

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Speaker 1: linebacker role, which really is like a jack of all trades,

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Speaker 1: master of none type thing, like obviously contributes as a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher, drops in coverage quite frequently, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: when they're doing like all the bonus fire zone stuff,

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Speaker 1: like they need somebody who can handle that type of

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Speaker 1: load going backward and forward. Tennessee's Byron Young, I think,

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Speaker 1: is somebody who I look for at that spot because

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Speaker 1: he's ultra athletic, like insanely athletic, super fluid would have

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Speaker 1: to be coached up a little bit. But in terms

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Speaker 1: of like here's the ball of clay and Brandon just

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Speaker 1: gets to work with that and turn it into like

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Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd with a jet pack, I think Buyer and Young,

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Byron Young, not the Alabama Buyer and Young.

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Speaker 1: I know, very confused because the same thing. But he's

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Speaker 1: one I'll be looking at. In terms of interior guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Okay, who can play anything from a

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Speaker 1: two eye to a five technique. You know Fox, He's

709
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Speaker 1: gonna you know, hold down the Ford as like a

710
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Speaker 1: five technique to four eye. But who's somebody who I

711
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: could potentially kick even further inside? And I look at

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Speaker 1: Keanu Benton from Wisconsin, who, to me, reminds me a

713
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: lot of Cam Hayward. You know, he's got a wrestling background,

714
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: fantastic pass rusher, really good athlete, but also as the

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Speaker 1: size and the nastiness that you know, if we're playing

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Speaker 1: like a four down flex front where we have him

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Speaker 1: as a two eye and then you know, really any

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Speaker 1: any of the other Chargers defensive Linman company three technique

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Speaker 1: on the other side, I think Keanu Benton being that

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Speaker 1: super quick, physical two eye that can also provide pass

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Speaker 1: rush fertilities is a piece that Brandon would really really

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Speaker 1: love to have. And then in terms of like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who's the best pass rusher. Let's say, God forbid, Joey

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Speaker 1: goes down, Kleu goes down. Who's somebody that we can

725
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Speaker 1: bring in right now and get after the past or

726
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Speaker 1: rushed the pastor two day. I would look at probably,

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Speaker 1: oh God, who would even be there at twenty one

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Speaker 1: to a plot Nolan Smith. I probably expect to be

729
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Speaker 1: top fifteen Polo too, I think at least has a

730
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Speaker 1: decent shot of being there. He has inside outside versatility.

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Speaker 1: Derek Hall from Auburn. I would love Will McDonald from

732
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Speaker 1: Iowa State who I know Brandon would love Will McDonald

733
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Speaker 1: because he's a five tech that played played two hundred

734
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Speaker 1: and sixty pound five technique Like that's catnip for Staley.

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Speaker 1: Also super Bendi and all these guys potentially could be

736
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Speaker 1: there at twenty one. So in terms of like big

737
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: big picture in terms of where the Chargers can go

738
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Speaker 1: in the draft, the answers anywhere they have them out

739
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Speaker 1: by the way, just trade back and they probably talked

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Speaker 1: about the depth, that's what that that that'd be the

741
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Speaker 1: best case. To me, they probably will just because I

742
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Speaker 1: think that the two guys that you can't really pass

743
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: on RS and Bijan if they're not there, like might

744
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: as well get value and go yeah. Yeah. But the

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Speaker 1: last one for me, and this is kind of shifting

746
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Speaker 1: out of the draft and focusing on the division. Just

747
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on what the division has done so far

748
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Speaker 1: this offseason, obviously with the Broncos and Sean Payton that

749
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Speaker 1: fit with Russell Wilson, McDaniels, getting Garoppolo and some guys

750
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Speaker 1: that I think better fit what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Where do the Chargers kind of fit in this pecking

752
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: order in the AFC West? Knowing the Chiefs of the

753
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Speaker 1: Chiefs and kind of the drastic moves that have been

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Speaker 1: made with the with Denver in Vegas, I still have them. Uh, Like,

755
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Speaker 1: if I was going to project wins right now pre draft,

756
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Speaker 1: I would still have them above Denver. I would still

757
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Speaker 1: have them above the Raiders. The Chiefs is like maybe

758
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Speaker 1: because they're the Chiefs, But the Chargers right now, on paper,

759
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Speaker 1: I think are the only team that could really go

760
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Speaker 1: toe to toe with KC. And I think that that

761
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of bared itself out in the regular season two

762
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: right like they they gave them the worst scares, and

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Speaker 1: if they were healthy, they probably would have at least

764
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Speaker 1: split and made the playoffs and seen them again in

765
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Speaker 1: January or gone gone past, gone past the round and

766
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Speaker 1: seen them again later in January. I've obviously, you know,

767
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Speaker 1: the Michael Davis injury, like we alluded to, was big

768
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Speaker 1: for them. But like, the Chargers are the threat to

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Speaker 1: KC to me because not only are they talented, but

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Speaker 1: schematically like when I watch as an aside, there was

771
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Speaker 1: a video that I did during the season about like

772
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Speaker 1: the goal line shovel pass that Kansas City runs all

773
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Speaker 1: the time, and how they are literally the only team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL that's good at it, like the only one,

775
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Speaker 1: and even then their success rate is still like forty

776
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Speaker 1: everybody else is like half. That they're the only team

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Speaker 1: that makes it work, the only team that plays against

778
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Speaker 1: their shovel pass well, and the only reason why they're

779
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Speaker 1: below fifty percent is because they called it a bunch

780
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Speaker 1: of times against the Chargers, and the Chargers stopped at

781
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: every single time. So like, even from a schematic standpoint,

782
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Speaker 1: the Chargers are the only team that really understands Andy

783
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Speaker 1: Reid and really understands Spagnolo, and from a schematic standpoint,

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Speaker 1: they play against them, it's a dog fight every single time,

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs know that they know they're in for

786
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Speaker 1: a brawl. And if the Chargers should stay healthy, truly

787
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Speaker 1: just stay healthy. Their combination of talent and I think

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Speaker 1: you know the quality of their coaching staff in terms

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Speaker 1: of game planning against case, they are the threat to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and I think the Chiefs know that I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Follow them, Brett Coleman two Tis two L's two ends

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Speaker 1: YouTube channels. Great, you're going to see those videos. The

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Speaker 1: one is already up breaking down the run. I would

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Speaker 1: assume we're pretty much going to get the one on

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Speaker 1: the pass here and day now at chargers dot com.

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Speaker 1: So they're great. Videos are great. Get you ready for

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Speaker 1: the draft? Awesome insight. Really enjoyed it, Brett, Thanks man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Brett. You're the man that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us. We got two more weeks.

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Speaker 1: We'll get another guest on next week. Get you closer

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Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty three draft. Chargers like twenty one overall,

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00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: and if they don't use the pick and trade out

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Speaker 1: money and drinks for everybody, get the atrium right about that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. We'll drink together. We'll have

805
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Speaker 1: a drink together. How about that. I'll I'll buy a

806
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Speaker 1: handful of them, but not all of them. I think

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be thousands of people, so that could

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Speaker 1: set me back. I still got kids in college, for

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Speaker 1: God's sakes. Yeah, I can't do that to you, all right?

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