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Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna tall me, motherfucker crazy house makes some.
Speaker 3: The when you google the West Coast, when you google,
Speaker 3: they area gotta mean Yeah, I got a Papa collar.
Speaker 3: Every time I say that, this man picture has to
Speaker 3: come up. This man is a legend of a legend.
Speaker 3: He's been controlling this game, in this game, staying true
Speaker 3: to this game for years. When we use the word legend,
Speaker 3: we don't lose it. We don't use this word loosely.
Speaker 3: When we use the word I car, we don't use
Speaker 3: it loosely. This man has been doing it. He has
Speaker 3: so many stories. He's probably the only person that knows
Speaker 3: every version of Tupac, the Death Row Tupac, the Oakland Tupac,
Speaker 3: the did you know underground Tupac. I've been waiting, We've
Speaker 3: been waiting to give this man his flowers, because when
Speaker 3: we started this show, we said we wanted to give
Speaker 3: to ours, to the people who has been down before
Speaker 3: us while we was there, and people that's after us.
Speaker 2: And like I said, this.
Speaker 3: Man is the legend of a legend, and we are
Speaker 3: so happy to give my mother fucking friend spikee one
Speaker 3: motherfu Now off top. Do you think ice Spice but
Speaker 3: your name?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like to say it, but she kind
Speaker 4: of weird a.
Speaker 2: Little bit better than that.
Speaker 3: To track Spice, No one, that's the Ice spe I
Speaker 3: didn't get you. So let's let's uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: let's talk about it, because in the beginning, there were
Speaker 3: so many people like the West Coast stayed with the
Speaker 3: West Coast, East Coast stayed with the East Coast. But
Speaker 3: she was one of those guys that was working with
Speaker 3: the East Coast. Yeah, how did that develop? I know
Speaker 3: you got records for method man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I always had a deep respect
Speaker 4: for the East Coast, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: it was always you know, because when the first time
Speaker 4: I landed on a plane and and I got out
Speaker 4: of the cab in Manhattan, the first dudes was walking
Speaker 4: down the street, man, And it was crazy because I
Speaker 4: just heard somebody say yo yo spike. As soon as
Speaker 4: I stepped out the cab, like two steps, bro, and
Speaker 4: I heard somebody yo yo spikes And I'm like, who
Speaker 4: the fuck is that? Like, how the fuck they't no
Speaker 4: meaning here like that, you know. And I looked down
Speaker 4: on this two dudes walking down the street and they
Speaker 4: get closer and closer, and it's fucking run DMC.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, first time in the first time I stepped
Speaker 2: in New York City death fucking run run And DMC
Speaker 2: was waiting and I'm like, you know, hey, you know
Speaker 2: what I asked him, like what y'all doing here? They're like,
Speaker 2: we came to see.
Speaker 4: You, Like, oh ship, I got y'all still on my
Speaker 4: wall and my mom was still here with my mom
Speaker 4: and show what's coming out here to do some uh
Speaker 4: negotiating with good job and stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay okay, And they were there a job.
Speaker 4: Holy crazy man, crazy much respect for run dmc dude.
Speaker 3: So so so let's let's let's bounce around a little bit, right, Jammy,
Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready for my drink.
Speaker 2: You drinking already all day. I ain't gonna lie to you, right,
Speaker 2: let me let me just take take a few times.
Speaker 3: The best thing about us doing this show is this
Speaker 3: is my favorite part. I don't know what your favorite
Speaker 3: part is, but my favorite part is always asking what
Speaker 3: is the guest drinking? So I said, I said, what's
Speaker 3: one thing drinking? They said, after this, So okay, let's
Speaker 3: pass around, like I said, like a little bit right.
Speaker 3: There's so many, There's so many Bay Area Oakan legends.
Speaker 3: Who was the person who inspired you to get on
Speaker 3: the mic?
Speaker 4: I would say, uh, inspiring, inspiring. I would go all
Speaker 4: the way back to like rock him, definitely rock him
Speaker 4: and uh man.
Speaker 2: Like all the old school cats. Man, you know.
Speaker 4: Danny Dane, you know all of all of the other
Speaker 4: school cats. When I listened to him, I was always
Speaker 4: you know, writing stuff when I was a kid. So
Speaker 4: I mean, I decided to put wrote poetry when I
Speaker 4: was a kid. So I decided to put it just
Speaker 4: some music. When I heard them.
Speaker 2: Dudes, right, so I can't lie to you.
Speaker 3: Recently, it's been a very big battle going on in
Speaker 3: hip hop, and we've been fortunate enough to have people
Speaker 3: sit in the sea. And the one thing that I know,
Speaker 3: the one thing that I could say that that that
Speaker 3: has it all together, it is the West Coast does
Speaker 3: stick with the West Coast. Yeah, we got might be
Speaker 3: with each other, but yeah, we got to rock together.
Speaker 2: You know, even even when we even we beef with.
Speaker 4: Each other, it's you know, it's we keep that up
Speaker 4: in there. But you know, it's always a support because
Speaker 4: you got so many styles coming from that area. And
Speaker 4: but but we still all come together when somebody have
Speaker 4: a show like you know, uh the Bay Area that
Speaker 4: doesn't sound like uh La and Sacramento even got their
Speaker 4: own sound, and you know, certain places in LA sound
Speaker 4: different from you know what I'm saying. So but when
Speaker 4: it all comes down to it, we all speak in
Speaker 4: the same language.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Because I thought it was genius how Kendrick.
Speaker 1: He involved like forty was was the voice of the beginning.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I'm talking about the Kendrick Battle.
Speaker 2: Were you talking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the show that he involved the show
Speaker 1: right now. The pop out there he forty narrated the
Speaker 1: intro and the outre today is let's holy shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that put that area on the map. It was
Speaker 1: like not La and started out with forty.
Speaker 4: Yeah when you know the bank of the Bay like
Speaker 4: the play man. You know what I'm saying. So, I
Speaker 4: mean you had catch us anywhere. You know, we all
Speaker 4: all over the place. I mean from from China to
Speaker 4: Japan to Europe back to America. Man, you know we
Speaker 4: were out here doing this everywhere we go. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, you got it?
Speaker 3: So what what's that line that Kndrick said? He said,
Speaker 3: you think the baby's gonna you disrespect Park Nigga, then
Speaker 3: the Oakland stop would be a last stop nigga. Right yeah,
Speaker 3: listen to me. If I'm on the other side, I'm
Speaker 3: not going It's just done like I'm done, like like
Speaker 3: because he think how genius that was he put in
Speaker 3: your mind that he disrespected Pak. Yeah, most people don't
Speaker 3: know what is he talking about. Most people gonna ride off.
Speaker 4: For that, Yeah, yeah for real, spits like but you know, man, Pak,
Speaker 4: you me, all a lot of artists out here, we
Speaker 4: all got the same you know, following.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it ain't no telling what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Uh, your fans might whoop somebody asse just just on
Speaker 4: the strength, you know what I'm saying. You know, you
Speaker 4: know you don't know what I'm I'm in La County
Speaker 4: and the and the and uh some essays they was
Speaker 4: about to jump me, you know what I'm saying, until
Speaker 4: they figured out it was me. They thought they thought
Speaker 4: I was playing to be me. They thought I was
Speaker 4: faking to be me. And I told him, I said, yeah,
Speaker 4: whoop some whoop whoop.
Speaker 3: That nigga ass.
Speaker 4: If he's faking the bee spice one whoop whoop his ass.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So your fans gonna do
Speaker 4: whatever they do everywhere. You know, you have no control
Speaker 4: over that ship.
Speaker 3: You the thirty days in La County. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: that's why you wasn't on Malcolm Belly album.
Speaker 2: Fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't know if you know you.
Speaker 2: Hear that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So I'm sorry we bouncing around, but
Speaker 3: you you brother, so because it's also alleged that and
Speaker 3: that's not alleged. I believe you confirmed it that you
Speaker 3: actually drove park to the to the to the airport
Speaker 3: when he was going to Vegas, or he drove with
Speaker 3: him something like that.
Speaker 4: Well we had we man, I want, I definitely want
Speaker 4: to talk about this to set it straight. The day
Speaker 4: Pak died, me and Pat was that at the other
Speaker 4: mansion and he had that big ass picture of of
Speaker 4: of Biggie uh and Puffy in there and and we
Speaker 4: we shooting. But but you know we we we recorded,
Speaker 4: we recorded, Uh we recorded the song.
Speaker 2: Uh what was it? A fame? Yeah? And that was
Speaker 2: the last song I recorded with him, And then you know.
Speaker 3: He that is officially his last song he ever recorded.
Speaker 4: I think so because he was like, you know, I
Speaker 4: thought he was gonna dry to Vegas because I was
Speaker 4: gonna hop in with him to roll out. But I
Speaker 4: was like, man, i've been hustling. I've been in the
Speaker 4: club in my same clothes for two days. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go take the change and clothes and I'll meet you
Speaker 4: out there. And so I got memories of Pot standing
Speaker 4: by the car like come.
Speaker 2: On, let's go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I heard he even told you that he'll get you
Speaker 3: closed in Vegas.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, we can go, we can get
Speaker 4: some clothes out there, and I'm like, man, I'm finna
Speaker 4: go chang. I have to take a shower, and no,
Speaker 4: I don't want to have in the car with you know.
Speaker 4: But uh uh. He was like, Tyson, gonna knock that
Speaker 4: nigga out and we're gonna party. You know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying that that's what it was. He was like, Tyson
Speaker 4: gonna knock his ass out, and that was what the fastest,
Speaker 4: uh fastest knockout in history, one of the fastest knockouts
Speaker 4: in history. That that was the plan. Tyson was like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna I'm a Knack you pie, I'm a Nike man.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a potty.
Speaker 2: That was. That was a player. Tyson's like, we got
Speaker 2: knack you back. I'm like, shit, we're gonna go part
Speaker 2: it in.
Speaker 4: But then I got By the time I got to
Speaker 4: the house and got changed and was ready to bounce
Speaker 4: out and ready to drive out to Vegas, I got
Speaker 4: the call.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, what the fuck just happened? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, hold on, we just he
Speaker 4: was just standing in at the car talking about come
Speaker 4: with me and ship and what the fuck just happened,
Speaker 4: you know. So, yeah, it was crazy, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But that was the last song were recorded.
Speaker 4: I know he don't. I don't thinking he recorded with
Speaker 4: nobody that damn fast. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He could of got shot and we caught he got landed,
Speaker 3: yeah recorded, you know, Hell no, you know, but if
Speaker 3: he did that, But as far as I know, that
Speaker 3: was the last song recorded. Is it true that if
Speaker 3: you would have went to Vegas? It's quite possible you
Speaker 3: would have been in a car with him.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: They were gonna go, he said, it does go shopping.
Speaker 4: I was definitely gonna be in the car because I
Speaker 4: was gonna ride up there with him. And uh, it's
Speaker 4: crazy because you know, maybe I could have. I been thinking,
Speaker 4: maybe I would have been like, man, left the Outlaws
Speaker 4: handle that ship. You know what I'm saying. As far
Speaker 4: as going jumping dude or whatever. Man, you know that nigga,
Speaker 4: we catching money. We're out here doing this right now.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: But but it was real a lot of tension because
Speaker 4: of what happened, you know what I'm saying, Because of
Speaker 4: what happened with the homie Eastwood and all of that ship,
Speaker 4: you know, when they jumped and took his chain.
Speaker 2: And all that. It's all right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of tension, so everybody was
Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, you know, it's a hoy
Speaker 4: song on its own, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm a big nigga, So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: y'all niggas crazy, Okay, this is what it is. But
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the festivities. When
Speaker 4: y'all get the act in the food, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: pull out the popcorn, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna in dulgs because that ain't my beef.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It ain't my ship.
Speaker 3: Mm hm cool? Say, were gonna be botball a little bit.
Speaker 3: The Trigger Got No Harm, I.
Speaker 2: Ain't no love bit.
Speaker 3: What's happening? You won't be on jove?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They asking for a single? Is this a single or
Speaker 3: this official singles?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: The Trigger Got No Heart was was the originally official
Speaker 4: single for Minister Society, and they played it with the
Speaker 4: commercial when the commercial came out, and you know, they
Speaker 4: played the movie Hearts of the Movie and the commercial
Speaker 4: part of the song and the commercial and stuff. But
Speaker 4: when I got to, uh, after the movie came out
Speaker 4: and I got to I was, I was out in
Speaker 4: New York and you know, seeing people coming out of
Speaker 4: the theater, girls coming out of the theater crying, and
Speaker 4: Ship like there.
Speaker 2: Was there anything ship that shot him like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm yeah, after the movie, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, damn, you know, they don't even
Speaker 4: know who I am. And I'm walking through hard and
Speaker 4: Ship and I'm like, they don't know who the hell
Speaker 4: I I don't even know who I am out here.
Speaker 4: This is crazy, this is crazy. And then my manager
Speaker 4: he like, man, you know my nickname Chico like Cheeko
Speaker 4: turned around?
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I turned around and I see.
Speaker 3: Like half a Harlem follow me like Sponge, you know,
Speaker 3: like ship. So shout out to Harlem that in my notes,
Speaker 3: why did Pot call you che.
Speaker 2: I've been you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Curious why Miami and.
Speaker 4: I've been in that after Womb, like you know, when
Speaker 4: I came out to woom My, my pops was like,
Speaker 4: you know, uh, you look like he looked He said,
Speaker 4: I looked like a Mexican ship.
Speaker 3: And I was going, you know, that's on target.
Speaker 2: I got that good here was like it was like magic.
Speaker 2: So Chico be in my name from what your mother
Speaker 2: shut out the pous man, Yeah, all day.
Speaker 3: That's definitely my note. That's that's funny as hell. So
Speaker 3: the whole bay caught you Chico.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, I didn't even know my real name. Bro I
Speaker 4: had on my on my papers at school. The teachers
Speaker 4: with Chico. You know, I was wondering. I had to
Speaker 4: ask my mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you know you got a real motherfucker,
Speaker 3: a nickname and ship.
Speaker 2: That's that's when we're from the womb. You know.
Speaker 3: I heard you say niggas a flash three hundred thousand
Speaker 3: and wonder why motherfuckers are running their housing or running
Speaker 3: their house.
Speaker 2: I believe you said, Yeah, that's ain't that's some ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a motherfucker sit up there and flash all
Speaker 4: that money and then wonder why. I mean, back in
Speaker 4: the day, you could, man, if we sitting on the
Speaker 4: black we knew a nigga had three hundred thousand. We
Speaker 4: was up in this ship, Broh, straight up, like you
Speaker 4: you don't just flash no three hundred thousands. You know,
Speaker 4: we out in Miami under you want to play scarface? Okay,
Speaker 4: play scarface, because that's how we're gonna come at you
Speaker 4: with that three hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: We coming at you like that, coming at you with
Speaker 2: about ten. It's gonna be ten twelve of us. That's
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand. Maybe we can split that, split that up,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: when when you come from that life, you think like that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm able to sit there and look
Speaker 2: at it from both sides because I've been on both sides.
Speaker 2: I've been the jacker and I've been the motherfucker they
Speaker 2: trying to jack, or the motherfucker they jack a shot
Speaker 2: at and all of that. I've been on both sides
Speaker 2: of the game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's good to be able to to to notice that
Speaker 4: and tell this little motherfucker something.
Speaker 2: You hope they listen to. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You see the the guy that murder and pop smoked home, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's home, but they posted it.
Speaker 4: They posted this picture that was like a go get them.
Speaker 2: Uh, that was like a get a kid.
Speaker 4: They posted this picture up there like that and let
Speaker 4: him know he was out. That was like that was
Speaker 4: like a death warrant. Basically, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: now everybody know you out. Yep, everybody knows he's out.
Speaker 4: You know, you know he's he's a youngster, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That means, you know, they put him
Speaker 4: up to that ship or whatever. You know, at this
Speaker 4: age we always say, you know, we made mistakes in
Speaker 4: the past and ship, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure ten twenty years from now, he's gonna
Speaker 4: be saying, motherfucker. You know, I went to the penitentiary
Speaker 4: for killing a ma. If he's live ten twenty years,
Speaker 4: he can be able to say, you know, I made
Speaker 4: mistakes when I was young and shit or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know it's not you know, motherfucker's
Speaker 4: now everybody know he out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and it is what it is, you know.
Speaker 3: But let's get back to the West Coast for a second,
Speaker 3: right that moment that Kendrick just had. Have you ever
Speaker 3: seen that type of thing since all in the same game,
Speaker 3: what the like showing that comarader to that unity with
Speaker 3: the West Coast California artists.
Speaker 4: No, I ain't seen that sense since that. You know this,
Speaker 4: that was something that very was really needed the West Coast.
Speaker 4: You needed to be able to come together like that
Speaker 4: from the Bay Bey to La it's always been, you know,
Speaker 4: a connection, but you know, we needed to come together
Speaker 4: like that, and you know, and represent the West because
Speaker 4: you know a lot of uh, you know, we stick together,
Speaker 4: but we see a lot of other uh you know,
Speaker 4: the South, they stick together. You know, the East, everybody
Speaker 4: rock you know what I'm saying, But the West we
Speaker 4: beef within each other a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But now you know that right there, let it know,
Speaker 4: let everybody know we can't come together.
Speaker 2: Pos. Yeah, that's something you should make the noise. Sure,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3: Watching that concert, it was like the first time like
Speaker 3: I seen it's wrapped like transition, like like like it
Speaker 3: kind of like like this he's the new king. Like
Speaker 3: they didn't say that. They didn't say man like like
Speaker 3: like having Drake come out and say I see that
Speaker 3: people like you have the biggest of the biggest West
Speaker 3: Coast guy come out and he's not this is you
Speaker 3: know Drake. But but you know him just co signing
Speaker 3: that and then that's that record. Just you just want
Speaker 3: to you just want to do a fucking gang dance.
Speaker 2: And that ships been stuck in my said, you woke up.
Speaker 2: They're not like us. I woke up with that stuck
Speaker 2: in my They not like us, They not like us.
Speaker 2: I woke up.
Speaker 3: You can use that for anything. It's anthem for everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: listen to the lyrics and you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: maybe this is not that really.
Speaker 2: You asking how the body is got, you know, So let's.
Speaker 3: Move around, Okay. One eighty seven poof classic classic fun song.
Speaker 2: Man. Look, the crazy part about that song is that
Speaker 2: it came in a.
Speaker 4: Dream, like before I was famous for any of that ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, before y'all even heard of
Speaker 4: Spice one, any of that ship.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I was dreaming, and uh, you know, I literally, man,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it. I literally sat there and I prayed.
Speaker 4: I said, you know, God, I want to be a
Speaker 4: rap star.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to I want to be a dope or
Speaker 4: whatever whatever. And I had had a little drink or
Speaker 4: whatever before and then I laid down or whatever and I.
Speaker 2: Went to sleep. This is some real ship.
Speaker 4: And I started dreaming that I was famous, but uh uh.
Speaker 4: It was this dude standing on the street on the
Speaker 4: corner and he was playing some music and I walked
Speaker 4: up to him and say, man, you know what's that
Speaker 4: you playing? And he was like, spice one, it's the
Speaker 4: new ship. So I'm dreaming this ship. Just before I'm
Speaker 4: famous anything, I'm dreaming this. And he was like, spice one,
Speaker 4: it's the new ship. And and something, something in the
Speaker 4: back of my head said, stick your head in the
Speaker 4: car and see what song made you famous. So I
Speaker 4: stuck my head in the car and I heard myself
Speaker 4: say he had the Nini the a K right, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, then I woke up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, who the fuck is E? Who the fuck
Speaker 2: is J? Who the fuck is E? Oh? Ship? What
Speaker 2: if they so dope on Hennessy Street. I said that
Speaker 2: to myself too.
Speaker 4: I was like pen and pad nigga, Penny pad, And
Speaker 4: so I got there, I got the right and it
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Clock in the street called
Speaker 4: Hennessy Robbers with the mother fucking name Oe E had
Speaker 4: a Bitch and the name was Gen had a Nigga
Speaker 4: name Juice doing Time of the Pen. You know, half
Speaker 4: the ship that we got sitting up here. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna keep going and going and going.
Speaker 4: And by the time I finished, I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 4: got a whole verse and ship. At the end, I'm like,
Speaker 4: fucking indoor, smoke them all.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 4: And so I tried to say to a few of
Speaker 4: my friends, and they thought I was crazy until I
Speaker 4: got it down. Then once I got it down, they
Speaker 4: told me, don't say that wrapped to nobody else because
Speaker 4: somebody you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So once I got it on the.
Speaker 3: Solo, mom deep down Q Tip produced did you get
Speaker 3: rid of?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Man, you to produced that?
Speaker 2: Do that?
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I always knew that. Like when I
Speaker 3: heard that, I was like, oh, they got that from.
Speaker 2: Me, you know.
Speaker 4: And I see a lot of artists doing that, but
Speaker 4: I kind of try to stay in there, in that,
Speaker 4: in that doing as far as that being my style,
Speaker 4: I try to do that ship. But I like when
Speaker 4: I see artists do that ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: That's that's cool. I always sit back and be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: do that ship, nigga. You know what I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 4: hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: So like I said, we bossing around a little bit.
Speaker 3: When was the first time you met pop?
Speaker 2: Who was that? Who was that? Uh? In my neighborhood video?
Speaker 3: Your video in my neighborhood she's really doing my interview,
Speaker 3: that's all in my notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: In my neighborhood video and you know, uh, it was
Speaker 4: was shooting and pot came over there.
Speaker 2: He just came out the clear blue sky was like.
Speaker 4: A keple of minutes brain with the nine and you
Speaker 4: know you singing the stutter rapping ship that I've made.
Speaker 4: And I was like, damn. I was like, that's two poles,
Speaker 4: Like what uthing? You know what I'm saying. I started
Speaker 4: thinking about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he already did Juice.
Speaker 2: Yeah that movie was like fresh out and everybody was
Speaker 2: still watching it.
Speaker 4: And ship, you know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 4: he knew all the words to my ship. So I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, automatically hit it off. I'm like
Speaker 4: that nigga singing the stutter rap you know the words
Speaker 4: to that mother that's hard? Well yeah, so we you know,
Speaker 4: after that, it was like, you know what the bitch
Speaker 4: is said, Man, let's go let's go kick it, Let's
Speaker 4: go to the club.
Speaker 3: Let's do what we were too young to get in
Speaker 3: the club seventeen somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we still standing by the store trying to get
Speaker 4: people to get us.
Speaker 2: Uh, get us afterohol and Ship you know.
Speaker 3: Both got records off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't give
Speaker 3: a goddamn drink. Can't get it records about drinks, about
Speaker 3: drinks by how the song one of these seven proof
Speaker 3: is on the radio, bang and they looking at me like,
Speaker 3: you can't buy the herd.
Speaker 4: No, nigga, go in there and give me a body else.
Speaker 4: You seventeen, you just get us some damn drink?
Speaker 2: Please? Oh now?
Speaker 1: And then what about the name Spice Onolle? How does
Speaker 1: that come about?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, sp spike stands for sex, pistols into
Speaker 4: cash and entertainment and uh and and and and the
Speaker 4: one is you know I you know, at one time
Speaker 4: I put them off first, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But the name actually at the later on in life,
Speaker 4: you know the reason why I put the one on
Speaker 4: the name uh, at the end of the name started
Speaker 4: uh having a multiple reasons, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like sometimes when I was rocking. I had to rock
Speaker 4: by myself, you know what I'm saying. That first album
Speaker 4: my dropped, I didn't have no features on there. It
Speaker 4: was just me and we sold a million copies. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And and and and and it's
Speaker 4: hard to you know, UH tell me uh that I
Speaker 4: need somebody like that went out and the out and
Speaker 4: already rocked by myself and did it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: With the right people behind me as far as UH
Speaker 4: marketing and promotion and all of that stuff, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I don't need uh to do have
Speaker 4: a feature on my records. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: some other nigga wrapping on there. I don't need that
Speaker 4: nigga on there.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: I can do a whole record by myself and still
Speaker 4: have motherfucker's cracking, you know, had that ship popping, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And that meant a lot to
Speaker 4: me too, you know what I'm saying. So now it's
Speaker 4: like features is cool, you know, but you gotta be
Speaker 4: able to hold your own motherfucking ship, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, That's why I put the one
Speaker 4: on the end of my name. Sometimes you gotta rock
Speaker 4: by yourself, right.
Speaker 2: It makes me think of DMX. Yeah, yeah, you had you.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta go, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: especially if you know you capable shit. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I know I can, I can, I can
Speaker 4: get on stage. I still, man, I still get on
Speaker 4: stage and rock with no music. I don't need I
Speaker 4: tell them to cut the fucking music off, Nigga, let
Speaker 4: me know. Let let me let y'all know how I
Speaker 4: get down before anything. Then we can start the show,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Or or at the end
Speaker 4: of the show. You know what I'm saying. If if
Speaker 4: by the end of my show you wasn't impressed, We're
Speaker 4: gonna cut the motherfucking music off and I'm gonna show
Speaker 4: you who I really am.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So that's that's why you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta be able to do that. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Who would you go gett at versus anybody?
Speaker 2: If you had to pick it, maybe uh your choice ship.
Speaker 4: Damn man, that's crazy because it'll be anybody. Anybody can
Speaker 4: get it. I got love for all every every rapper
Speaker 4: in this every rapper in the world, niggas that came
Speaker 4: up for me.
Speaker 2: But any of y'all can get it. And y'all know
Speaker 2: what it is. Man, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yuck mouv Hell yeah, you know what I'm saying, Man,
Speaker 4: you could be That'll be fun, you know, because because
Speaker 4: we got we got the I got five on the
Speaker 4: songs and all of that ship we turn up.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Definitely shout out to the
Speaker 2: loanis man. Let me keep thinking, mister fab.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mr fab Man, I got I got hit fab
Speaker 4: on a new album, you know, on some new ship
Speaker 4: I'm working on.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So stay tuned for all
Speaker 2: of that ship. One more, you go, one more.
Speaker 1: Don't gotta stay by area. I like saying he could,
Speaker 1: He could, He could be very with it.
Speaker 2: I mean, but.
Speaker 4: You would have to find an artist that can match
Speaker 4: because I because because the one thing I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: it like I always do, I'm gonna cut the music
Speaker 4: off and I'm gonnay rolling up with the script, leaving
Speaker 4: the doors of mister busts liter right know, I gotta
Speaker 4: be smoking up with the foot to the pedal through
Speaker 4: the getto fall from a rock star, but playing with
Speaker 4: heavy metal watch a nigga cop calls and play with
Speaker 4: hell hit ca ons on cop calls on puls because
Speaker 4: my brother gotta ride my wid gaspright dip hit. If
Speaker 4: you call us some black on black six, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: cut the music off and start doing that ship. So
Speaker 4: you know, then whoever can fuck with that then tell
Speaker 4: them to come on here. And that's just some ship
Speaker 4: I got. You know what I'm saying. If I actually wrote,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't even write no more with my nigga.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I heard start spinning.
Speaker 2: Baby, Here's what it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's it's this music.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: You gotta be like a motherfucking you know, the dude
Speaker 4: with the long ass beard. I just saying, got the
Speaker 4: long on beers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The motherfucking o g to the master.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, after all of these years,
Speaker 4: if you don't master that ship, then you got a problem.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. If you can't after all.
Speaker 4: Of these years, if you got to, if you still
Speaker 4: got to sit down there and write your ship and
Speaker 4: all of that. Then you know you didn't learn nothing
Speaker 4: through the all of this time. It should be easy
Speaker 4: to get up there. These motherfucker's only all they want
Speaker 4: to twelve bars, now, twelve bars and the eight bar hooks.
Speaker 2: That's so fucking easy for me.
Speaker 4: Sixteen we was doing sixteen three, sixteens, eight bar hooks.
Speaker 2: Writing that ship down. And then if you fucked up
Speaker 2: back in the day, if you fucked up your wrap
Speaker 2: back in the day in the studio, you have to
Speaker 2: they have.
Speaker 3: To cut the music off.
Speaker 1: They have to go back there to the real where
Speaker 1: you fucked.
Speaker 3: Up at, cut that off, take it back together, and
Speaker 3: then start you over. If you fucked up back then
Speaker 3: now you could just say, okay, y'all, go back, I fucked.
Speaker 2: Up, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's different now
Speaker 2: trying to pull up.
Speaker 3: Was your ship that you did on the Michael Jackson, Yeah,
Speaker 3: rapping on what is that?
Speaker 2: Man? I did that ship?
Speaker 4: That's the street general, you know, and it's it's like
Speaker 4: this meme every you know, thing on everybody put it
Speaker 4: out there, and it's like, you know, I took Michael
Speaker 4: Jackson ship turned it into some gangster ship, you know,
Speaker 4: the first time I did it, I was in Germany,
Speaker 4: and I and I you know, and I was spinning
Speaker 4: it and I had to stop, literally stop rapping, dude,
Speaker 4: and wait for these motherfuckers to quit screaming.
Speaker 3: Over the crowd. Or you did it live, you're saying
Speaker 3: live in Germany.
Speaker 2: I had a start.
Speaker 4: I had to, And at first I was really upset, like, man,
Speaker 4: come on, y'all, let me finish this, Ship, I said.
Speaker 4: I mean, they were screaming loud as fucking I was like,
Speaker 4: it's all we love, and so I love, just you know,
Speaker 4: let them scream.
Speaker 2: I can't sure. I'm pretty sure. I was in a
Speaker 2: few different different parts and ship.
Speaker 4: I didn't think the show was gonna be that damn
Speaker 4: pat you know it, you know it was. It was cracking,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't believe how loud they were screaming. So
Speaker 4: I knew that somebody to go fucking record that song,
Speaker 4: go recording ship. So I recorded, you know, two versions
Speaker 4: of it, the old school version and then a new version.
Speaker 2: I just recorded. Y'all can check that out anywhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, no, no, no re checked it out? Did did
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson? The State contacted? Yes?
Speaker 2: No, I was I was expecting them to like, you know,
Speaker 2: they got they got to hit me up once somewhere.
Speaker 4: But you know, ship maybe they probably just like this
Speaker 4: nigga crazy.
Speaker 2: He ain't getting no money on that ship anyway. Fun
Speaker 2: that we got away. Do what you do?
Speaker 3: Help me, you know, so let me what's your favorite
Speaker 3: part of it? Is it making the record or performing
Speaker 3: the record? Performing? And definitely get out of here.
Speaker 4: Definitely performing because well I came into the game solely
Speaker 4: on performance. Like you know, when n w A came
Speaker 4: out to Oakland to uh On on that uh On
Speaker 4: that tour. I was to open and act when they
Speaker 4: came to Oakland at the skating ring the first yeah
Speaker 4: whoa and I opened up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I had to turn a lot of motherfuckers in
Speaker 4: front of me that didn't know who I was and
Speaker 4: give a funk who I was. Boo, nigga, bug the
Speaker 4: funk out. We want to see n w A all
Speaker 4: of that ship. I had to turn them up.
Speaker 2: Yeah I am, they want to see. But you're still
Speaker 2: the guy in the bay correct. Yeah you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But no M at the time, you know,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 4: Was just like, man, you know I'm thinking back, you know,
Speaker 4: shout out to the homie Piso, you know, he was
Speaker 4: my my DJ back then, and he was like, you know,
Speaker 4: let's do this ship.
Speaker 2: We got the song, let's just do it.
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, okay, you know, fucking let's let's
Speaker 4: go out here and turn this. When I was doing
Speaker 4: that Pizzo house and ship, and it was like, fix
Speaker 4: me a beat. You know, I'm Spice wanning. He was
Speaker 4: Piso to be fixed, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, fix me a beat, Nigga, fix me a beat,
Speaker 2: and he was like fix me.
Speaker 4: We started knocking sh it down, but I had to
Speaker 4: turn that crowd in front of me, uh, from haters
Speaker 4: into motherfuckers. We had love for me right there in
Speaker 4: everybody else's face, and that was That was a tryump.
Speaker 4: That's why I like being able to perform my shit
Speaker 4: more than them listening to it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That must have been a game changer though. Yeah, through
Speaker 1: that show like this, did shit changes? You notice should
Speaker 1: change after that show for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was still in high school. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: still in high school.
Speaker 4: I went back to high school, like, yeah, just turned
Speaker 4: that NWA shit out, you know.
Speaker 2: But I learned. I learned. Yeah, it was because because I.
Speaker 4: Was passing off the flyers before and everything at school.
Speaker 4: They you know, I had haters and ship you know,
Speaker 4: they believe me. Some of them didn't believe it, thought
Speaker 4: I was bullshitting, But my real friends came up there
Speaker 4: supported me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Shout out to my real homies, especially the homies of Brookfield,
Speaker 4: not yet of Brookfield. All my hat with homies came
Speaker 4: through and supported me even when I was sixteen.
Speaker 3: Shout out, baby, blow God, damn well, Spice. We want
Speaker 3: you to know our show is about giving people they flowers.
Speaker 3: We wanted to give your flower space space man and man,
Speaker 3: tell you how great you are, tell you how much
Speaker 3: you deserve these flowers. We've been when we started good
Speaker 3: and then and then the words of Snoop is better
Speaker 3: than the Grammy because they come for your people, you know.
Speaker 4: Man, who've been trying to make a happen. I can't
Speaker 4: stop looking at this, bro. That's what the fun IM
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 2: That damn them. I mean, thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You know you be and my friend.
Speaker 3: But I've really written research, I really writ in research
Speaker 3: and did And one of the things that was like
Speaker 3: a little disturbing to me was I believe he was
Speaker 3: like one of the first West Coast people to go platinum.
Speaker 3: Like I'm engaged the hip hop, right yeah. Besides, like
Speaker 3: you know, like ice Tea and but ice Cube. But
Speaker 3: I'm still in a different generation, so the new generation.
Speaker 2: He was like the first.
Speaker 3: But what made me a little upset was me reading
Speaker 3: and me you know, researching and watching videos and you
Speaker 3: said you only made thirty to one hundred thousand off
Speaker 3: of eleven million.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we wouldn't we We really didn't get no money
Speaker 4: out of that. You know, I couldn't even pay off
Speaker 4: my house and ship.
Speaker 3: You know, I just made eleven million, Yeah, millions, made
Speaker 3: eleven million, made it, eleven million made it?
Speaker 2: Well you think you think I have?
Speaker 4: We had nine hundred thousand and thirteen dollars a unit,
Speaker 4: right right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We somewhere around there, and this is on jove, this
Speaker 2: is on job. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I did, like what three or four more
Speaker 4: albums did the same thing back to back, right, and
Speaker 4: this is all gangster ship. It wasn't no, I wasn't
Speaker 4: trying to make no hot singles and ship like that.
Speaker 4: I was just spitting what was on my mind, you know,
Speaker 4: because I really believed that that if you said what
Speaker 4: you feel and kept shit realed, then then motherfucker's gonna
Speaker 4: fill you out there. They're gonna catch that same energy.
Speaker 4: So that's why I was, uh, you know, floating towards
Speaker 4: That's why I was. I was getting that all the
Speaker 4: real motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying. So shout out
Speaker 4: to all the real motherfuckers out there who bought my ship,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, right.
Speaker 3: Because.
Speaker 2: Me, I.
Speaker 3: Saw a fucked up deal, but I didn't have success
Speaker 3: my first album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so me not being successful.
Speaker 3: Kind of worked out, yeah, because I had a fucked
Speaker 3: up deal. But you add a fucking up deal with
Speaker 3: a successful album.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 3: What successful albums? He said, albums? I mean, let's just
Speaker 3: stay on that first one for a second, right, because
Speaker 3: is that when you figure out that you're in the
Speaker 3: fuck up situation after that first album?
Speaker 2: Or is it?
Speaker 4: It took me after the first well maybe the third album, okay,
Speaker 4: and I started thinking like, you know, hey, you know
Speaker 4: they I know, they made a lot of money, way
Speaker 4: more money than than I did. But damn, at least
Speaker 4: I can just try to pay Can you pay off
Speaker 4: my house? My house was only one hundred and thirty thousand.
Speaker 4: Why ain't been able to pay off this house? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you're still young, You're really young. Yeah, I'm only
Speaker 2: like twenty three, I think. So everything's new to you,
Speaker 2: all the economics of things. Yeah, I didn't know no shit. Man.
Speaker 4: I got into the game knowing nothing, but I had
Speaker 4: to learn, you know, the hard way, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I ended up giving them more albums, and
Speaker 4: you know, falling deeper and deeper into it, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, by the end, by the time I got
Speaker 4: off the I wanted to get off the contract, out
Speaker 4: of the contract, and everything they were was no promotion
Speaker 4: and marketing under the videos for.
Speaker 2: The last album that you put.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you know, so I gotta lead with a
Speaker 4: two hundred thousand my last record do too?
Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand?
Speaker 4: You know, enough to get them some money, but enough
Speaker 4: to stop you from action. Yeah, I'm still in debt
Speaker 4: and from actually getting another deal, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it was hard after that, But after ninety nine
Speaker 4: after I got off the label, I had to learn everything.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It took another ten years to even learn the independent game,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know I made
Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes doing that. So but to stay relevant,
Speaker 4: you know, all I just kept, you know, made sure
Speaker 4: that mastered my craft and kept my sword sharping as
Speaker 4: far as you know, mastering my craft and being able
Speaker 4: to spit and uh and uh you know, uh get
Speaker 4: my audience fired up, you know what I'm saying. Being
Speaker 4: able to hold your own in the show or whatever.
Speaker 4: Being able to to get the crowd going or whatever
Speaker 4: when you spit even though they ain't never heard the
Speaker 4: song or they know the songs. Your new ship, your
Speaker 4: old ship. You gotta kind of stay relevant out here,
Speaker 4: you can. You got to keep spitting. But because that's
Speaker 4: what you do. You know, I don't have another job,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm a rap artist. I
Speaker 4: don't I don't have another job as a as a
Speaker 4: I don't sell houses, I don't do no extra ship out.
Speaker 4: I'm a rap artist. All my money I made came
Speaker 4: off this music, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 4: something I'm proud to say. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 4: even though it's a lot of other other artists venture
Speaker 4: out into it, a lot of different things, I just
Speaker 4: know this is what I'm good at and that's how
Speaker 4: I get my money.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Live eat sheep, ship this ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So we had other artists on and a lot of
Speaker 3: them are looking forward to what is it thirty five
Speaker 3: years or thirty years? Thirty years, thirty years that your
Speaker 3: master reverts back to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but and then you but then you got to
Speaker 4: go through a lot of paperwork and whatever and.
Speaker 2: File this and file that soldiers got this ship back.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's possible where you do it.
Speaker 4: You just got to have the right team and people
Speaker 4: behind you to say, Okay, look, let's get your fucking
Speaker 4: master's back.
Speaker 2: Let's call this lawyer and get because you own all
Speaker 2: your ship.
Speaker 3: Now, right, you know it's been more than thirty years, correct, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you should, you should, you should get yours back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hell, I'm working on that, and we're definitely working on that.
Speaker 4: When I do, y'all definitely gonna know, yeah, saying I'll
Speaker 4: dropping my own projects and doing my own ship and.
Speaker 3: Do your own shit over yeah exactly, Yeah, the remix
Speaker 3: of this and remixing that master or whatever.
Speaker 1: So so.
Speaker 3: My first album I didn't have the the correct representation
Speaker 3: or whatever, right, But then that second album I went
Speaker 3: in yeah, and I for more report to.
Speaker 2: An album and then an R album.
Speaker 3: I like, I was, I don't want to say, like
Speaker 3: I became a dick. I didn't kind of trust anybody
Speaker 3: because I had just went through like.
Speaker 2: The bad shit.
Speaker 3: So I was just like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: was that something like I don't want to say bitter
Speaker 3: because I wasn't bitter. I was just what's that shit
Speaker 3: called paranoid? I was paranoid, like I was. Anybody wanted
Speaker 3: to work with me, I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: just do this like this like this, because I just
Speaker 3: felt like everyone was taking advantage of me. Had you
Speaker 3: ever got to that point where you was just paranoid?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because you can see you know, you can see people.
Speaker 4: You can tell when people don't really give a fuck,
Speaker 4: they're just kind of like trying to get the money.
Speaker 4: After the situation, you know what I'm saying, and you
Speaker 4: kind of like, well, you know, whatever happens, uh, it's
Speaker 4: a it's gonna be at at at your at my expense.
Speaker 4: If this don't fall through, if that don't fall through,
Speaker 4: they gonna look it at me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So but but you got to the people that you
Speaker 4: work with. You gotta have faith and confidence in them,
Speaker 4: and they gotta be real motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Now you know better how to you know, choose characteristics
Speaker 4: in the motherfucker. Back in the day, you know, we
Speaker 4: was just out here kind of.
Speaker 2: You was trying to get out the hood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Were trying to get
Speaker 4: out of the hood. But I didn't want to. I
Speaker 4: made my first fifteen grand make it through music.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no, it wasn't selling though like that, I'm jealous.
Speaker 2: I think, hey, you know I want through to remind you.
Speaker 2: Remember it was like I think we did that song
Speaker 2: song yep, we did a yeah, And I was like studios, yeah,
Speaker 2: the stereos and jobs.
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, nah, man, I was
Speaker 4: like I was out and I think we did another
Speaker 4: song to I did one with you or something yes,
Speaker 4: And then and then I was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: charge you ship, yes, And he was like, no, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna charge you ship anyway. And then I said,
Speaker 4: now fuck it. I said, you got a major deal.
Speaker 4: I said charge me to don't charge you. We're gonna
Speaker 4: buy some weight we can get. We got paid.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gonna talk you about.
Speaker 3: That, because you know, me and him one of our
Speaker 3: major arguments, and sometimes I'm on his side and I
Speaker 3: feel like sometimes he's on my side.
Speaker 2: Too when due to certain circumstances.
Speaker 3: I always say that the artists should actually start off major,
Speaker 3: get all that promotional money that because they can't.
Speaker 2: Take back fan. Yeah, they can't take that.
Speaker 3: They can't take back fing like they can do. Like
Speaker 3: I'm saying, use all the marketing dollars, you know, go
Speaker 3: on the tours.
Speaker 2: You know, go to the you know.
Speaker 3: The breakfast clubs, the big boys, the Drake Champson. Okay,
Speaker 3: we wasn't invented then, but uh yeah, uh.
Speaker 2: E bros.
Speaker 3: Or whatever, like, use that up at least for that
Speaker 3: first album, right at least for that first album. And
Speaker 3: once you become that superstar, that megastar, then you either
Speaker 3: branch out and you tell them yo, you know, I
Speaker 3: want to own a piece of myself or let me
Speaker 3: let me buy myself out of the contract. I mean,
Speaker 3: depending on how big you are. It's kind of impossible sometimes,
Speaker 3: but it is possible. Like God, bless God, bless me
Speaker 3: for using this example. But before he before he was
Speaker 3: in jail, Tory Lanez brought himself out of his contract.
Speaker 3: He's one of the first artists to have a successful
Speaker 3: album and then go to his label and have enough
Speaker 3: money to say what do I owe? His's what I owe?
Speaker 2: I want to leave. Yeah, he did it. That was
Speaker 2: a boss move, right, he did it.
Speaker 3: He had hit on a minority. They could. But I'm saying,
Speaker 3: haven't hit. Sometimes will work against you, though, ef N,
Speaker 3: because they're like, you made this money for us. He's
Speaker 3: writing music. His checks were different than the average you saying.
Speaker 3: He was writing other artists musical.
Speaker 2: He was very.
Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying, because you know how
Speaker 3: many and you argue about the situation.
Speaker 2: I don't want to argue about Okay, okay, this is
Speaker 2: the beta man. You know what I mean? Another argument,
Speaker 2: it's the beta man.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, if you had enough bread
Speaker 3: and you could come to the label after once selling
Speaker 3: one successful platinum album. That is the ideal, quite essential
Speaker 3: situation when I'm talking.
Speaker 1: About where you be independent major, right right. You understand
Speaker 1: that's rare that that could happen.
Speaker 2: It's very rare, but just seen it happen.
Speaker 1: In this day, the percentage of artists that even gets
Speaker 1: signed and have successful releases is very minimal.
Speaker 3: You know, get shoved. I know a lot of.
Speaker 2: That ship is like the spirm trying to get to
Speaker 2: the egg. Yeah. Man, you know it's it's like they're
Speaker 2: all trying to get.
Speaker 1: To that apartments to push their record and.
Speaker 2: This is an old school crazy hood drink.
Speaker 3: Why is that's the nasty It's it's the way, it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, put some ship together over there.
Speaker 3: You got seven proof but streaming you were streaming or nah.
Speaker 4: I think that we need to get paid more because
Speaker 4: you know what, we're not even getting a penny of
Speaker 4: stream So that's that's that's that's just slavery, bro. You
Speaker 4: know damn. You know it's like, where are they gonna
Speaker 4: pay their motherfucking artists?
Speaker 2: Man? Like, what are we just slaves to the rhythm?
Speaker 3: Bruh?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, We never go get paid
Speaker 4: for this ship, like, we really got to go after
Speaker 4: our money. So, I mean, streaming is is cool, but
Speaker 4: it's it's just you know, you got to do so many.
Speaker 2: Streams and get some fucking money. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I heard right now. The artists are so dumb. This
Speaker 3: is this is I heard this from the inside of
Speaker 3: the inside. So I gotta be very careful of What
Speaker 3: I'm saying is that when the producer goes produces the record,
Speaker 3: they go to the person who has the master and
Speaker 3: they say, well, who owns the masters? They don't even
Speaker 3: speak to the artists, to the artist.
Speaker 2: They do it.
Speaker 3: It's shady. They are streaming general general not not streaming
Speaker 3: coming up. But what they doing is that said listen,
Speaker 3: but listen listen to hit me out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Spice comes to me, he signed, he signs the artist, right,
Speaker 3: he signs the artist. I'm the producer, he owns the master.
Speaker 3: I'm the producer automatically, I own the fifty percent of
Speaker 3: the other thing.
Speaker 2: Right. Then they go to the publisher and they.
Speaker 3: Have the publisher by the artists publisher out and the
Speaker 3: artist has nothing. Artists that you have to be in
Speaker 3: this media to get his publishing No, no, no, What what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is he owns the master. I'm labeled as
Speaker 3: the producer. And then you I forget what your world
Speaker 3: was when I said.
Speaker 2: You didn't give me a role.
Speaker 3: You're publishing company. Yeah, you're publishing company. So the artist
Speaker 3: is so dumb. They get their advance and then the
Speaker 3: publishing company comes to them and says, are another and
Speaker 3: he just signs off because for a first say to you,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take your H two O. You say, who
Speaker 3: gives a fun? But you said I'm gonna take your
Speaker 3: air like oh ship. So that's what they way. So
Speaker 3: the artists have literally when they give advances of publishing, yes, so.
Speaker 2: Have nothing to do with their own ship.
Speaker 3: If you don't, if you don't, if you're if you
Speaker 3: have like one of those records that is just reacting
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood and it's not in these clubs and
Speaker 3: it's not in the radio, then you literally will be
Speaker 3: bro the literally you will literally have nothing because there's
Speaker 3: no residuals. Yeah, at least they give us the lituals.
Speaker 3: You get like they say, you get half a cent word.
Speaker 4: You ain't really getting shipped, you know, anybody you you
Speaker 4: deal with nowadays and you talk to them, they said,
Speaker 4: you know, no money in it, and it's it's industry
Speaker 4: and no money in the game right now, you know,
Speaker 4: except for CEO.
Speaker 2: Except for the sex for streaming companies. In the streaming
Speaker 2: companies they.
Speaker 3: Get leam Cole said to us, it's the best time
Speaker 3: to get in the music industry because you don't have
Speaker 3: to produce the music, meaning you don't have to produce
Speaker 3: the CDs.
Speaker 2: Remember how much the cost, Remember.
Speaker 1: How the album and you know how easy it was
Speaker 1: to aunt for that. Huh, how easy it was for
Speaker 1: you to account if you made your own CDs and
Speaker 1: pressed up CDs.
Speaker 3: We was complaining about that ship. We were complaining about you.
Speaker 3: We can't track the CDs. You can't track a stream.
Speaker 1: But in the streaming company will be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had a million streams and really you had three
Speaker 1: million stream and you know they don't cut checks if
Speaker 1: you don't reach a certain threshold streams. So they keeping
Speaker 1: some money from small artists that don't reach let's say
Speaker 1: a thousand streams. Right, if you have nine hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety nine streams, you don't get a check. Wow, So
Speaker 1: that means they holding checks for all because you know,
Speaker 1: now there's a million artists out there throwing their music
Speaker 1: into the system. So they keeping that money, They keeping
Speaker 1: that money, they keeping.
Speaker 3: Them And this is my point. Mind you, I told
Speaker 3: you two different stories, one from Leo and one from
Speaker 3: these other people, so that lets you know that right now,
Speaker 3: so many people are opening record companies just because of that.
Speaker 3: It's because of their relationship with the with So you're
Speaker 3: the record company, I'm the producer, and he's the publisher.
Speaker 3: But we all down, you the publisher, but they all
Speaker 3: down together, and then they signed Kareem, who is the artist.
Speaker 3: Kareem doesn't know. Kareem taking there. I'm taking your publishing,
Speaker 3: y publisher, I'm taking your No, he owns the masses. Yes,
Speaker 3: so you ma man, Yeah, that's that's how I fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, my own ship, my first meeting and
Speaker 3: I gotta go to the back and coming right back.
Speaker 3: I mean the very first meeting, my very first meeting
Speaker 3: as a solo artist. I was on Compona Norca. Pone
Speaker 3: is locked up and I go to a meeting and
Speaker 3: for some reason, I go early. No rapper goes nowhere early.
Speaker 3: But I knew that it was my advantage right right,
Speaker 3: So I went there half an hour maybe forty five
Speaker 3: minutes early. My look is in there with her shoes off,
Speaker 3: getting fat grace. I'm like, this is not gonna be
Speaker 3: a good deal for me.
Speaker 2: This like it was like it was there was nothing
Speaker 2: bad going on, But.
Speaker 3: I'm want to saying this, what first of what the
Speaker 3: fuck are you doing here early early getting fiked? And
Speaker 3: I don't want them to say who it is because
Speaker 3: I do businesses.
Speaker 1: Me back. But look, but with all that being said,
Speaker 1: and you being signed to Jive and going through all
Speaker 1: this that you went through, but the area you come
Speaker 1: from the Bay and that surrounding area it is so
Speaker 1: known for independence for out the trunk sales. Was there
Speaker 1: a time from where you're like, damn, what why.
Speaker 3: Am I on a label? And where what are those
Speaker 3: guys doing that I should be doing?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: It was but.
Speaker 4: I had what we had dropped one eighty seven proof
Speaker 4: of the the the single and then the EP let
Speaker 4: it be known, and it was it was just blew
Speaker 4: the fuck up, you know what I'm saying. Like it's
Speaker 4: like it was everywhere, you know, I was already touring
Speaker 4: in different states and all of that ship after the
Speaker 4: first EP independent. The first independent EP just set me
Speaker 4: the fuck off, you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 4: and then job came. So I didn't really have too
Speaker 4: much independence before the major Yeah, yeah, but but it
Speaker 4: was it was with another Uh, it was an independent
Speaker 4: label right with this lady. Because I was you know,
Speaker 4: I was you know, I was, I was twenty years old.
Speaker 4: I didn't know ship, so all I knew was wrap
Speaker 4: and get the money, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 4: and and uh, this label came tryat records, this lady
Speaker 4: named Georgette Willis, and she come out and she like,
Speaker 4: I got a record label. She meet me on the
Speaker 4: Dope on the Dope track where I'm selling dope. You know,
Speaker 4: I woul look at it here, you know what you're
Speaker 4: do it here? She's like, you want to buy some dope?
Speaker 3: She but not that dope.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, She's like you one, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, She's like, can I get it a tape?
Speaker 2: And I gave her a tape and ship that I
Speaker 2: have made whatever she.
Speaker 3: Was selling crack and taste at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have my dope down to sell
Speaker 2: down and down the sewer and ship tied to the
Speaker 2: fisher stree, you know, taken in the bushes like the
Speaker 2: song say she right up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: She's like, you know, white white lady of black lady.
Speaker 3: She was like this crib lady.
Speaker 2: Man. She was beautiful. I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: What the fuck? She was like white, white, white Mercedes Bens,
Speaker 2: white business skirt, and I'm like, what the fuck this
Speaker 2: lady doing here? She'd get your cup out of here, lady.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: We got beat for these niggas and tell them short
Speaker 4: stopping us down. There's been going down. My cousin riding
Speaker 4: around with her with a forty five hanging out his
Speaker 4: pocket on her on the bike. And I'm sitting over
Speaker 4: there with the Tech nine in the bushes and she
Speaker 4: pull up on my Spice one.
Speaker 2: You want to you got a tape?
Speaker 4: I gave her a tape, and you know, the next
Speaker 4: day she she uh, you know, I talked to her
Speaker 4: on the phone a few times and and the next
Speaker 4: day she came over and I had to have my mom.
Speaker 4: I was still young, you know, I had my mom,
Speaker 4: had my mom there and all of that ship. Uh
Speaker 4: to to talk to her about Farrest business, and my
Speaker 4: mother like, you know, it's just what you want to do.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm selling dope on the street nobody ever
Speaker 4: heard of and they were kinding for so she did.
Speaker 2: I didn't tell her that she id but you.
Speaker 4: Know I wasn't out there, but you know, so yeah,
Speaker 4: so I signed the ship and she We did the
Speaker 4: album and man, we did the EP.
Speaker 2: We put up.
Speaker 4: Banks came in the mix and started remixing the songs
Speaker 4: that I had already had in my neighborhood and one
Speaker 4: of seven proof and all of that. He started coming
Speaker 4: in and he threw his his his his shot in
Speaker 4: there and threw me a few beats and we had
Speaker 4: an EP. You know what I'm saying. We released the EP. Man,
Speaker 4: next thing, you know, it's all over the day. Like
Speaker 4: I actually got a chance to go into the record
Speaker 4: store back in the day and watch them just just
Speaker 4: buy my ship off the shelf. Just sit there and
Speaker 4: watch it all go, like, you know, I'm sitting They
Speaker 4: don't know it's.
Speaker 3: Me, just like in the dream though.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I'm just sitting there, you know, Like there
Speaker 2: was no video music box back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was just starting and we did one
Speaker 4: a seven proof video and we had the claymation of
Speaker 4: figures in there. You know that we actually had the
Speaker 4: bottles running around shooting each other and ship. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that was the video is crazy and uh,
Speaker 4: you know I never thought uh that. I was like,
Speaker 4: shit is kind of crazy, Like I ain't gonna like that,
Speaker 4: but it was. It was number one on the box
Speaker 4: for a long time and I had to come out
Speaker 4: here to Miami the Box and.
Speaker 3: Yah, yeah I remember.
Speaker 2: I remember. That was literally the last time I was
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 3: Hold on, literally the last time you was that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It was when the box was there. Let's take a shot.
Speaker 1: No, no, but I just have a question. So so
Speaker 1: you guess you'd signed with her? She's independent. The deal
Speaker 1: you do with drive is it with her or no?
Speaker 4: It was literally it was with her. They you know,
Speaker 4: she wanted me to stay, uh with with the late
Speaker 4: want to do the independent thing. It really didn't, but
Speaker 4: to her she said, you know, if you want to
Speaker 4: go with the manor label, I'll let you out of
Speaker 4: the contract and you can rock.
Speaker 3: With She wasn't a part of the deal. She just
Speaker 3: lets you go from.
Speaker 4: You know, they gave us some mandeal to you know
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do that. I was like, no,
Speaker 4: I don't want to just go like that, like, you know,
Speaker 4: let them let.
Speaker 2: Him pay you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because if it weren't for you,
Speaker 4: this ship wouldn't have wouldn't it possible? So yeah, whatever
Speaker 4: they're gonna pay you, man, get that money. Get your money, girl.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over here and get some get some money,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Then I get over there
Speaker 4: and they just would run through me. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Just not really.
Speaker 3: You know, you get these advances thirty thousand, yeah, forty thousand,
Speaker 3: then I get eighty thousand for the first time and
Speaker 3: a manager disappeared.
Speaker 2: Like so, you know, man, the whole.
Speaker 4: Time, you know you're getting you're getting gaffled the whole time.
Speaker 2: Bruh.
Speaker 4: If you don't, you know, it's like you trust people,
Speaker 4: You be around people thinking that you know that uh somebody,
Speaker 4: you know, the people that you got in your circle
Speaker 4: is cool, but they behind your back.
Speaker 2: Brouh.
Speaker 4: You know, it ain't really really ain't what it's the
Speaker 4: same with you think it is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And in retrospect, you think if you would have stayed
Speaker 1: with her and kept going and would have made more money,
Speaker 1: you would have made probably more bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I heard you say you made way more
Speaker 3: money independent than you did made.
Speaker 4: Because I made you know, I just made it, you know,
Speaker 4: the first fifteen thousand independent and and you know, I
Speaker 4: thought I was on top of the world, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But it was it was better than
Speaker 4: it was better and better than trying to you know,
Speaker 4: selling double jack niggas and ships, stealing cars and all that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I felt that was a better deal. See me personally,
Speaker 2: me and EF we always argue for this.
Speaker 3: I believe in that theory that I just said, Like
Speaker 3: I like the majors a certain extent, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like I like staying at you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you got the right deal with them, it's
Speaker 4: everything is good. But then it's like the certain deals
Speaker 4: that they give you or they try to give you
Speaker 4: and you try to renegotiate, depends all depends on how
Speaker 4: bad they want you as an artist and they always
Speaker 4: you know that. The thing is like, it's like you
Speaker 4: got to make them come to you. You can't go
Speaker 4: to them. You got to make them come to you
Speaker 4: just like you know, you know a pip and tell
Speaker 4: you you know, you can't go to them.
Speaker 2: You got to make it come to you.
Speaker 4: You got to be so fly, you gotta be just
Speaker 4: so dope this to that point to where you make
Speaker 4: them come to YouTube where they know they can make
Speaker 4: money dealing with you, you know what I'm saying. And and
Speaker 4: and that's the that's the that's the trick, you know,
Speaker 4: because when you go to them, they treat you like
Speaker 4: you went to them. When they come to you, then
Speaker 4: you know they acquiring your services. So you gotta you know,
Speaker 4: you can got negotiating room and ship or whatever, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But when you go to them like you need something,
Speaker 3: they gonna treat you like you need something. Was there
Speaker 3: any time that you did you like being on a label?
Speaker 2: I love being on a label.
Speaker 4: It's just the point of of the The business part
Speaker 4: wasn't right, you know what I'm saying. The relationships between
Speaker 4: me and the people on the label was beautiful, but
Speaker 4: the business relationship wasn't right.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't getting paid like I never I.
Speaker 4: Never got the chance to buy my mama that house,
Speaker 4: even though even before she died. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I didn't get that money like that.
Speaker 3: Do you blame that more on your team or you're
Speaker 3: blaming more on a label.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of blaming on myself for trusting people and
Speaker 4: trusting the wrong pace people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I should have trusted none of them cats. You know
Speaker 4: I should have. I should have went to maybe some
Speaker 4: different people or something and dealt with them. But you know,
Speaker 4: everything is a lesson to be learned, and now it's
Speaker 4: it's full speed ahead.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh.
Speaker 4: I look back just for clarific clarification and and uh
Speaker 4: and learning experience. But I just move ahead because it's like, damn,
Speaker 4: you know, I can't you know, I gotta watch this
Speaker 4: and watch that, you know what I'm saying. But you
Speaker 4: know you always got to think back and say, damn,
Speaker 4: you know, if I wouldn't have did this, this would
Speaker 4: have happened, you know what I'm saying. But it's all
Speaker 4: a learning experience. Now it's so long, and.
Speaker 2: Who was your management back then I had, Uh, I
Speaker 2: had John had this guy named John John crashed nothing.
Speaker 2: I had Chaz Hayes, and I had and I had, uh.
Speaker 4: Who's that after Chaz Hayes? Because I stop having managers
Speaker 4: after that. Yeah, I can't even remember it, but I
Speaker 4: just stop having managers after that, kind of just like,
Speaker 4: you know, man, you need to learn the business because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's too much money involved, you know. And and for
Speaker 4: me to trust anybody just somebody out of the blue,
Speaker 4: you know, just say they can be a manager and
Speaker 4: they have no credentials or clarifications or no contacts to
Speaker 4: you know, I say, Okay, you're a manager, Go give
Speaker 4: me a deal. You're a manager, Give me a good deal.
Speaker 4: I need a good deal for before at least at
Speaker 4: at least one point five. Go give me a deal
Speaker 4: for one point five and so we can actually drop
Speaker 4: a real project and I can do what I need
Speaker 4: to do, you know what I'm saying, And and and
Speaker 4: that's hard to find, you can't, you know. So I mean,
Speaker 4: with with all of that said, it's like, shit, I
Speaker 4: gotta go give me a deal for one point five.
Speaker 4: I gotta And at the same time, I gotta make
Speaker 4: them come to me, I can't go to them, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But a lot of these cats nowadays,
Speaker 4: they you know, they got they got enough d boy
Speaker 4: money to just say, Okay, I got one point five
Speaker 4: to invest in my first single to go platinum, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's different when you when you know, when you you.
Speaker 4: You going, uh purely off talent, trying to go off
Speaker 4: your skills and uh, and then you got then then
Speaker 4: then then the cat that got the bread and his
Speaker 4: ship is kind of cool, it's kind of dope, but
Speaker 4: you know he got enough money in nobody to put
Speaker 4: into it to make the ship sound like the best
Speaker 4: shitting you ever heard of your life, you know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So let me ask you because in our error,
Speaker 3: you have to be skilled, you have to be nice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you had to be there,
Speaker 3: get put on right now, right now. It's a popularity contest, contest. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the label will sign anything or get down with anything
Speaker 3: that's popular. It doesn't matter if the shit is talking
Speaker 3: about suck your own elbow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like they don't care, Like they don't care. Did you
Speaker 3: ever think that hip hop will go to that route
Speaker 3: where it's just like, hey, cut my toenails.
Speaker 2: I thought that mainstream hip hop would go that route,
Speaker 2: but I know that mainstream would go that route down once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, once they got to the mainstream. Once he got
Speaker 4: to mainstream, it's like, ain't'm telling what the hell like.
Speaker 2: Do with this ship now?
Speaker 1: Because remember there's a time that hip hop were being
Speaker 1: on the radio was frowned upon, like if he was
Speaker 1: really a hip.
Speaker 2: Hop like Hamma Hammer for instance.
Speaker 1: Right, well, I mean he got a lot of slack
Speaker 1: yeah for being as mainstream as was, but but in
Speaker 1: general like that, remember the song EPMD did a.
Speaker 3: Crossover, It's all like being on the radio.
Speaker 1: No, People were like, I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: the radio because it's gonna look like I'm going mainstream.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: It was times where I remember I got the funny
Speaker 4: memory of Easy E and Too Short trying to talk
Speaker 4: me into going to the radio station without the pistol.
Speaker 3: You've never you've been there without it before. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to go in there without the pisos. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: we was in Alante you that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Too Short of the Easy East sitting
Speaker 4: there like, man, you know short like, man, you can't
Speaker 4: bring that ship in here and she got in here man,
Speaker 4: short like, man, you got to just go in there
Speaker 4: and do the interview. Just going easy, like, you got
Speaker 4: just go in there and do the interview.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going in there without my ship.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, hey, come on show. You know
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that because how much beef
Speaker 3: you had in the streets all that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, I'm not doing it. He's like,
Speaker 4: just easy, like just going there for about fifteen minutes, man,
Speaker 4: and you can come out and ship. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. It took him about thirty minutes to
Speaker 4: talk to me. And then you know, I said, damn.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I gonna put the banger
Speaker 4: up in the car and.
Speaker 2: Go in there.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm sitting there like this is shit is crazy.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm on the radio, and
Speaker 4: I know I got enemies out here. These niggas can
Speaker 4: pull up this motherfucker any minute. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 4: to tell y'all. Can we just get the interview done.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, trying to hurry up and
Speaker 4: get the ship done.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. This is a bang l
Speaker 2: a in l a Okay, go ahead and you know easy.
Speaker 4: It was like, I got some niggas outside, I want
Speaker 4: you to meet after you finished doing an interview, and
Speaker 4: it was it was bomb Thuds. That's when I first
Speaker 4: met them. Oh wow, that was cool. That was out
Speaker 4: in the van and ship the Easy Event. It was
Speaker 4: like a video. I went out there. The Easy Event
Speaker 4: was out there and they opened up. Hell of smoke
Speaker 4: popped out and then bone Thugs popped out, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: Like my niggas meant for life all day? Y'all do
Speaker 3: music together. You got you and bone Thuns.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a song.
Speaker 4: I got songs with me and me and Lazy got
Speaker 4: I think like two songs.
Speaker 3: Because I definitely here. Yeah it sound great together. I
Speaker 3: got a song with Crazy too. I just got to
Speaker 3: need to get it. We all need to get together
Speaker 3: and do one song, like you know hell yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was let's go plain playing them the rules.
Speaker 1: All right, this is our drinking game, ready, fish one,
Speaker 1: Let's go. We'll give you two choices.
Speaker 2: Pick one. We were not drinking.
Speaker 3: But trying to get this nigga drunk for years. He
Speaker 3: don't get drunk.
Speaker 2: You don't know. I sit there drinking. Well, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you it's not gonna work for.
Speaker 1: If you say both or neither of the choices. Hope,
Speaker 1: because he has Hennessy, I have hope. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: he's like he for life. Any drinkers, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: get drunk.
Speaker 2: I like grew up on that ship. Hey, but Zito
Speaker 2: grew up it. We might turn around and push, but
Speaker 2: he's not. Hey.
Speaker 4: When I used to get sick, my my, my pops
Speaker 4: and he would make a hot tidy and it would
Speaker 4: be Hennessy and Hennessy and the team.
Speaker 2: So I've been drinking. I literally grew up on the ship.
Speaker 2: He establishes your pops a gangster. Okay, you want to.
Speaker 1: Just said a drinking Even when I explained it rules,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. Nobody I said you pick pick one,
Speaker 1: we're not drinking. Pick two or none were drinking.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready.
Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, and and give us any stories
Speaker 1: anybody we tell you.
Speaker 3: Anybody were talking, Okay, okay for damn show rock him Okay,
Speaker 3: rest one.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And they don't got to be whatever the crisis criteria.
Speaker 1: You could be there your best friend, the grant eggs
Speaker 1: and hand whatever.
Speaker 2: Ship man, it's there is one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh I like you picked? Okay, Tupac or mac dre.
Speaker 3: By the way, those those two guys over there that
Speaker 3: write the questions, the Columbian and Dominican, just in case
Speaker 3: we don't write these questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a cocaine section over there. You found they snipping
Speaker 3: cocaine and they're looking at it.
Speaker 2: They analyze you, they come up with the questions.
Speaker 3: Damn, I'm gonna have to go with pack. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: now you know what, I can't even say that. You
Speaker 3: gonna say both.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I take your shot, Jamie where you're at. You're
Speaker 2: right there? Ship no, no, come on down there. Just oh, fellow,
Speaker 2: you know me? You say shot it, see the shot.
Speaker 3: Right away, like shoutout, just one right here, by the way,
Speaker 3: let's come back right in this one, dombe Remember those
Speaker 3: get mad e forty or too short?
Speaker 2: Ship shot? Yeah, shot shot clock, I take a shot
Speaker 2: on that. Look, by the way, I don't think I
Speaker 2: can pick me for forty and too short.
Speaker 4: Forty like my big cousin, And it's like the shortest
Speaker 4: like my uncle, Like pick me up. Excuse me sure,
Speaker 4: I used to pick me up from school man, take
Speaker 4: me to the studio.
Speaker 3: Who like to drive crazy?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who like to drink more? Forty or too short? This
Speaker 2: is not on the question. Well forty probably because forty drank.
Speaker 2: You know, he used to get it in. Yeah. See
Speaker 2: that's my friend. He get crazy when he get drunk,
Speaker 2: he gets funny. Forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he didn't get that crazy with us when
Speaker 3: he drink with us.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but you start doing this ship shout out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but next time we drink. See on our food
Speaker 3: my food show, he got crazy, yes, and he and
Speaker 3: he's a connoisseur of wine by the way, like I did.
Speaker 3: And why became you fucked?
Speaker 2: Like a hood?
Speaker 3: A hood hood like black dudes like I Like, sometimes
Speaker 3: you'll be looking at them like come on, how you
Speaker 3: gonna be a connoisseur? But then you really realize, like
Speaker 3: like you know.
Speaker 2: He's a console with a lot of ship though you
Speaker 2: know wine.
Speaker 3: He's a super expert, like puts his nose and the
Speaker 3: ship and do all that crazy ship like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 2: like that ship. I like when we got elegance fuck that.
Speaker 1: To shout out he forty two Short both drink Champs alumni.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna take a shot for that anyway. Okay,
Speaker 3: jay Z or Big Daddy came. Damn man, Big Daddy Kane.
Speaker 3: Okay you met him. Nah, but I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: Big Daddy Knees. Just that's a fly nigga right there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I always try to be like Big Daddy. I was
Speaker 4: trying to be like Big Daddy kne I was against
Speaker 4: you a few times.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Syebros like him, like a little side like Bush. So
Speaker 3: we're not taking a shot. You can do the next one.
Speaker 2: Digital Underground. I think I know what you're getting. Damn,
Speaker 2: I gotta take a shot. Follow Salo.
Speaker 3: You was around Digital under around a lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was around well, Digital Underground. I met Shot at a
Speaker 3: place called Music Unlimited, and I was I was. I
Speaker 3: was rapping with Too Short at the time, and even.
Speaker 4: Uh it was funny because Master Peak had brought me up,
Speaker 4: took me up there like Master p used to pick
Speaker 4: me up.
Speaker 3: Too, and be like, nigga, you wrap with two Shout Nigga,
Speaker 3: hang out Richmond. Yeah, okay, not to f He'll come
Speaker 3: pick me up, dude, you know, because I was, you know,
Speaker 3: to hell. I'm them young, so I'm.
Speaker 4: Like two or three years young. And he come swoop
Speaker 4: me up and ship and we'll be driving around. He'll
Speaker 4: be like, nigga, you rapped with two Shout nigga. You know,
Speaker 4: we're driving and he drive. We went to Music Unlimited
Speaker 4: or something and shot G. You know, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I went up there and I think I was getting
Speaker 4: something or microphone or something up there, and he was
Speaker 4: playing the keyboards up there and shit. And I was like, damn, dude,
Speaker 4: it's dope as fuck on the keyboards and stuff. Walked
Speaker 4: over there and started talking to him, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm shock G man. I got a group called on
Speaker 4: Digit on the ground. I was like, yeah, I wrapped
Speaker 4: with two Short Man. We got a group called a
Speaker 4: Danger's Crew, and shit, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: think I'm like sixteen, bro, about fifteen sixteen, and you know,
Speaker 4: and that's when I met shot G. So it was
Speaker 4: always money be you know I knew him too. You know,
Speaker 4: he used to be in the in the east side
Speaker 4: of the Bay, around Union City and Hayward, Oakland and
Speaker 4: all that. I just knew him through the streets anyway.
Speaker 4: So these was kind of mutual with hummies before.
Speaker 2: They even before they came out with what you like.
Speaker 4: And I had heard Tupac too through through a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff too before I met him. He had like
Speaker 4: a little stuff floating around the hood and ship, you know,
Speaker 4: little songs and ship. So you know, everybody was kind
Speaker 4: of pushing even back then.
Speaker 3: And by the way, when we have guests here, we
Speaker 3: always bet if they're gonna be late or if they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be on time. Oh yeah, and you lost the bet.
Speaker 2: You made all of us money today.
Speaker 3: He was late early, Okay, yuck mouth or JT the
Speaker 3: bigger figure.
Speaker 2: Damn, I take a shot.
Speaker 1: Take a shot, guys. M hm, that's a good one. Ready,
Speaker 1: wrapping Forte or Drew Down.
Speaker 3: I definitely gotta take a shot off me and Foeta
Speaker 3: go back to the Danger's Crew, you know, to tell
Speaker 3: me a funny story about Yeah, to the Dangerous Crew,
Speaker 3: bro and and and and drew Down. You know, man,
Speaker 3: that's just my that's my guy right there. You know,
Speaker 3: I talked to him every other day. We ride bikes
Speaker 3: and all that ship. You know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, what kind of bikes? I got a Racker.
Speaker 4: I got a Racker, A nine hundred. It's like I
Speaker 4: got the two in the front, one of the back,
Speaker 4: like the fucking uh like a spider, but a sporty
Speaker 4: version of the spider.
Speaker 2: White.
Speaker 3: They made a bicycle. Nigga Tony talk about talking about
Speaker 3: Burnber as well.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm game. Yeah, I got got my
Speaker 2: helmet and ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The jacket, Yeah, I got my vest. My I'm a
Speaker 4: Vegas rider. I got my uh patches and everything.
Speaker 2: Ships and glove. Yeah.
Speaker 4: We ride out here. Yeah yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh drew down too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We ride.
Speaker 4: We ride together some time, all right. But you know
Speaker 4: he got to ride all the way out to Vegas
Speaker 4: and shipping. That's like a nine hour ride, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But if you a rider, you're a rider, man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You just go you ride
Speaker 4: by yourself. Yeah, you gotta go hard. I rode through
Speaker 4: the storms and all that ship.
Speaker 6: How about pictures. Pictures you gotta watch all that ship.
Speaker 6: Broy hit you on that bike. It hits you like
Speaker 6: because you're going like you know, you keep the vest,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see the movie Wild Hot, Yeah, I see that
Speaker 2: she was hitting markin.
Speaker 3: Like I was too hard to even the rain. You know,
Speaker 3: I see a storm coming, I'm like, fucking yo. But
Speaker 3: even it hits you, the rain even when hit your
Speaker 3: hands and you hear it hitting your helmet and ship
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: That ship hit hard when you ride, but you're riding.
Speaker 4: You a motherfucking rider, man.
Speaker 2: So when did you become wilf Way ship? You got
Speaker 2: some white d me too. Lot of clubs many not
Speaker 2: like a lot of it's a lot of especially you know,
Speaker 2: like dogs in the club too.
Speaker 4: Well, you got you got. You got the East Bay
Speaker 4: Dragons in Oakland. The first was the first motorcycle black
Speaker 4: motorcycle club. These bake dragons and they really you know
Speaker 4: they paths, huh, the cousins of the path something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, I guarantee a few panthers was up in there.
Speaker 4: They're still up in there, you know what I'm saying, so,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, yeah, man, you know I just
Speaker 4: like burning rubber on the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Just hitting corners all the time, Okay.
Speaker 3: Burning right, yeah, smoking uncle now was a black biker.
Speaker 3: I'm like, when you come up to Vegas, let me know,
Speaker 3: I got an extra when you got hop on that
Speaker 3: motherfucker watching It ain't as fast as a nine hundred,
Speaker 3: but if you can get the six hondred on the
Speaker 3: ride on there, you know, so you you in Vegas,
Speaker 3: you living bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm out there now because let's get back.
Speaker 3: To that hold on us, back to all right, Biggie
Speaker 3: or big punt.
Speaker 2: Man. I gotta take a shot. I love Big Biggie Man.
Speaker 2: Real spit. I heard Biggie.
Speaker 4: They asked him who was his favorite rapper on the
Speaker 4: West Coast, Spice one, and that nigga says Spice One.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, that's my nigga. I don't give it,
Speaker 2: but you don't get no bigger he was. He was
Speaker 2: on the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Man's bigger.
Speaker 2: If you don't get no bigger, that's my nigga. Heard
Speaker 2: that interview ship. I think I heard that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same interview, he kind of said something bad
Speaker 3: about forty on Yeah, the same interview.
Speaker 2: It was an the middle of that ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm Yeah, Okay, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: I fuck with all my East Coast niggas. It's hard
Speaker 4: just you know, met the man Man. I think I'm
Speaker 4: the only West Coast nigga on Wotan's Greatest Hits.
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like that song with
Speaker 2: me and Meta man is on their greatest heads. Wow.
Speaker 4: And you know, and I listened to the Greatest Hits,
Speaker 4: I didn't hear nobody with me on there talking about Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: ship you know, shout out to the whole Wu Tang clamber,
Speaker 4: the Thiggas bro.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Ship, Doctor Dre or DJ Quick.
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna have to take a shadow that way.
Speaker 3: I love And this is this is a this is
Speaker 3: a two part question going back to back. Okay, original
Speaker 3: or Death Row Tupac.
Speaker 4: I said the original Tupac because without the original Tupac,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be a death Row Tupac. Like you know,
Speaker 4: he had to you know, learning a lot of ship
Speaker 4: and go through a lot of ship to become the
Speaker 4: death row Tupac in the in the and in that
Speaker 4: I respect that original Tupac for doing that, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, damn, you
Speaker 4: went through a lot of ship to get to this
Speaker 4: point in your life to where you know, we're sitting
Speaker 4: up here and you tell you're telling me.
Speaker 2: This is what it was, This is how this is
Speaker 2: why everybody was confused. He's sitting here telling me. He like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show all these niggas what it is to
Speaker 2: be a real thug nigga. You die and you go
Speaker 2: to jail, nigga, that's what happened.
Speaker 4: He said, I'm gonna show y'all niggas what it is
Speaker 4: to be a real nigga, what happens to a real nigga,
Speaker 4: This thug life nigga. And he was like, when I die,
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna be able to compare every every rapper
Speaker 4: that come out behind me. They're gonna have to compare him,
Speaker 4: compare him to me. And he's in here telling me this.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, This is the original. It's
Speaker 4: the original Tupac. You know what I'm saying. When we
Speaker 4: youngsters were riding around Oakland and ship. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, We got the top down popping that bitches
Speaker 4: with Lake Mirriat. You know what I'm saying, This is
Speaker 4: what he's telling me, and I'm you know, I'm with it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hell yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Fuck that but not knowing you know this need literally
Speaker 4: for telling his prophecy. You know what I'm saying, Like now,
Speaker 4: you can't you a rapper or any of artists that
Speaker 4: drop right now, They compare him the Tupac and certain
Speaker 4: and then they even get mad sometimes don't compare me
Speaker 4: to Tupac. You should be motherfucking really happy. They compare
Speaker 4: your ass to Tupac, no matter who the fuck you are,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 2: Real ship.
Speaker 4: So I mean, you know that's why I like the
Speaker 4: original pot because I seen his his his his his,
Speaker 4: you know, his destination and where he was going to
Speaker 4: is his where he was you know it was headed
Speaker 4: and ship.
Speaker 3: Most of the time I have artists on here that
Speaker 3: he they even have a relationship with Tupac from the beginning,
Speaker 3: like meaning like the Digital Underground days, the Oakland days,
Speaker 3: and then we have people that separate that have been
Speaker 3: on that only knows that death Row tupac Right, real
Speaker 3: quick before I go to the next question, can you
Speaker 3: can you describe in your opinion I'm talking about what
Speaker 3: was the difference between between each.
Speaker 2: The difference was like he was more focused on on
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 4: Opposed to focused on you know, this beef he just
Speaker 4: got into because he got shot and all of that
Speaker 4: ship and you know what I'm saying, that altered his
Speaker 4: uh saying.
Speaker 3: The original was focused on the world, and the death
Speaker 3: Roll one was focused on the beef. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 3: mean in general, Leig just be honest. He got shot, Yeah,
Speaker 3: shot to be killed and he survived it. That's gonna
Speaker 3: change anybody, man. I agree, that's gonna change.
Speaker 1: That's traumatic that there's a lot of slim I want
Speaker 1: to get into that.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to say, you know, little seas.
Speaker 4: You know, if you see this interview and you're listening
Speaker 4: brouh when you you know, we do need to talk.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I remember, you know, in
Speaker 4: the middle of the ship, in the middle of the
Speaker 4: beef I was in. I was at a club in
Speaker 4: New York and I was talking to Alan Ivison and
Speaker 4: Ship and black Robe came up and told me Little
Speaker 4: Sea's need to wanted to holler at me.
Speaker 2: And I was still mad because PoCA got shot, you know,
Speaker 2: and I was I was hot Dad got shot? Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 4: After the elevator, Yeah, after quiet, I was hot, you know,
Speaker 4: because he had just told me the whole thing happened
Speaker 4: and all that ship and I seen it dan his
Speaker 4: head and I was still fucking hot.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, how the fuck you
Speaker 2: come out here and get shot?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So but so Little Seeds
Speaker 4: was like, you know, tell Spikes I want to holler
Speaker 4: at him. And I was like, you know, man, fuck
Speaker 4: that nigga. I don't need to go over there.
Speaker 2: Bruh.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because I was hot, but
Speaker 4: you know, uh probably need to have that rank pimping
Speaker 4: real spit.
Speaker 3: Yeah nah, yeah for sure, go connect. Okay, now bring
Speaker 3: the other one Me against the world or mcavelly.
Speaker 5: Is that uh ship you leading the Witness? I can't
Speaker 5: I can't shoo between that firepop Okay, well fucking uh.
Speaker 2: Both grade albums.
Speaker 4: Shared so many tears video I was I was me
Speaker 4: and forty was in that video. MHM Pack was in jail,
Speaker 4: I think. So we had the Double come through and
Speaker 4: Ship motherfucker, you know, and I was, I know, I
Speaker 4: was really fucked up towards to do when he came
Speaker 4: in there because I was mad because my hommie was
Speaker 4: locked up and.
Speaker 2: Ship, who the Double?
Speaker 3: Come on, you're found nigga?
Speaker 2: You mean the Double you was? I was like, who
Speaker 2: is you?
Speaker 7: Nigga?
Speaker 2: You you you know he was hiring from.
Speaker 3: Your own team?
Speaker 2: How you just gonna come in here looking like my nigga?
Speaker 2: Man up out of here? But I was hired. Man.
Speaker 4: We ended up being cool though, we straight now, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was just kind of like, man,
Speaker 4: you know it's nigga, ain't pack nigga.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Back up, I'm curious for
Speaker 2: this one Method Man or Red Man.
Speaker 3: Ship Man. Hell no, we got a drink both of those.
Speaker 3: My homeboy, me and Meth got the song. Me and
Speaker 3: Red Man got the song with Men with m c
Speaker 3: A that ship slapped.
Speaker 4: You know, we always been cool with them cast We
Speaker 4: never you know, had no disagreements or nothing. I've been
Speaker 4: knowing that I've been knowing her for years. Last time
Speaker 4: I seen red Man was in the airport. I passed.
Speaker 2: We chopped it up for a minute, shook hands, and
Speaker 2: we was both on in the rush. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But yeah, man, that was my truth.
Speaker 3: Brother, Little minutes society or boys in the hood.
Speaker 2: Men, it's in society because you're tied to minute society.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was dimming Park beat the nigg up too, right, Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was kind of you see how I scatuated into that.
Speaker 3: I was, I kind of you was there when that
Speaker 3: kind of gasted up right?
Speaker 2: Count in the hell.
Speaker 3: He was like, don't get them.
Speaker 2: I think they was gonna be at the video though,
Speaker 2: But if I knew that there was gonna be there,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been saying all that ship because Pop
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna beat thing, motherfucking ass. And I
Speaker 2: was like, you ain't gonna do nothing, nigga. I was like,
Speaker 2: what you gonna do, nig You ain't gonna do that, nigga.
Speaker 2: What you gonna do? He was like, I'm gonna beat
Speaker 2: the ass. Watch I'm gonna fuck the niggas up.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you ain't work in the paper.
Speaker 4: They Yeah, He slapped the paper on my knees soon
Speaker 4: as I got in the car, and I was drunk
Speaker 4: his head and I was like, what.
Speaker 3: The young ages. That was the first Internet. It was
Speaker 3: called the paper up the newspaper. You had to actually read. Now,
Speaker 3: go on your phone to the front of your poor
Speaker 3: actually pick up the paper and actually picked up the
Speaker 3: paper and read it. And he was Megan all first Internet.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be in minister society.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was supposed to be old Dog. You know,
Speaker 4: I can see when they told us this at the video.
Speaker 4: I was gonna be old Dog. I had the script
Speaker 4: and everything. My manager at the time didn't follow through
Speaker 4: with the fucking ship, so I ended up firing his ass.
Speaker 4: Fire this funk out of that, nigga. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Chill the mother ass. Somebody here fucked up
Speaker 4: a major motion picture movie. Roll, nigga, he's still.
Speaker 2: Again. You know, I had to script and everything.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there reading the script and all of that
Speaker 4: ship waiting.
Speaker 2: On the call and all that.
Speaker 4: That ain't no fibino call because this motherfucker ain't called nobody.
Speaker 3: You still got the stocking cap on, just like old
Speaker 3: dog did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's how That's how we was rocking.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Niggas at the motherfucking braids
Speaker 4: and ship I was tripping like, oh ship, the braids
Speaker 4: that looked like me on that mother may Why you got.
Speaker 3: Bread smoke an old school blunt, just got hash in it.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, come on, get your lungs, Get your
Speaker 3: lungs back to.
Speaker 2: The day smoke all day nineties. I ain't gonna lie you.
Speaker 3: You in twenty twenty six like a motherfucker. By the way,
Speaker 3: I've been watching this whole time. You were surgical. How
Speaker 3: the fuck you roll? And you got the canoe to
Speaker 3: and at the end, you know that makes that hit
Speaker 3: a shotgun?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you gotta hit. Make sure that ship
Speaker 4: hit right. Sometime you breaking apart at the end. You
Speaker 4: gotta roll it right.
Speaker 2: Some skills together, man, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
Speaker 2: gotta get that roller skills up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You smoke right, And.
Speaker 3: We don't have to chalkboard, right? Do we have to chalkboard?
Speaker 3: But you want to do to use the computer because
Speaker 3: I want them to after this, I want them to
Speaker 3: play a game I want him to name people from
Speaker 3: the Bay and the name people for Miami Day, and
Speaker 3: let's see who wins that game in New York. Nah,
Speaker 3: you know with Trump, y'all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But Trump, you you know what I mean? Okay, nixt
Speaker 3: hustle or easy? Damn you You and you were having
Speaker 3: a nigga out here twisted like Licorice. I told you
Speaker 3: just to call here and dominican him just to make
Speaker 3: sure that the guests drink.
Speaker 2: Easy or some piece of both. We had this game
Speaker 2: we used to play and ship.
Speaker 4: And and uh, every time I seen him, I give
Speaker 4: him a hug and I tap his back to see
Speaker 4: if he had his bulletproof vest on the ship.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll do the same, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He tap my bag and then we look.
Speaker 1: Check.
Speaker 2: I've never heard what Every time I say, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's up? You got that? Motherfucker?
Speaker 3: You gotta Did you have an album covered with a vessel?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my style. It's like I would have worn
Speaker 4: one to day. But I don't want motherfuckers to think,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody trying to get that or nothing. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I just you know, it's
Speaker 4: a style for me, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: like wearing that ship. You know, I don't give fuck
Speaker 4: with motherfuckers. Oh he's just wearing it because of style.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am.
Speaker 4: The shit looks dope. He messes with my oozy motherfucker.
Speaker 4: That's what my chopper, nigga.
Speaker 3: It will save you. I wasn't ready you ever met
Speaker 3: Nipsey or any interaction with Nipsey. Nah.
Speaker 2: You know what? But I think it was crazy is
Speaker 2: that my.
Speaker 4: My baby mama was in the studio one day and
Speaker 4: she knew who he was, and she was with my
Speaker 4: daughter and my daughter was like maybe three, and he
Speaker 4: took a picture with my daughter.
Speaker 2: That was cool, you know.
Speaker 4: So I got a picture with him my daughter, and
Speaker 4: I show my daughter all the time, like you know
Speaker 4: what this is. Know, she's she's twelve now. She was
Speaker 4: three then, yeah, she was like three year old. But
Speaker 4: it was crazy, you know, so hell yeah, shout out
Speaker 4: to Nipsey though. You know that was some good ship.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's just something you got. You can't
Speaker 4: be fucked up to your fans, bro, All these niggas
Speaker 4: out here doing stupid ass ship fucked up ship to
Speaker 4: your fans.
Speaker 2: Nigga. You need to be small, nigga. I don't give
Speaker 2: fuck who you is.
Speaker 4: If you fucked up to your fans, you ain't shit nigga,
Speaker 4: because you wouldn't be shipped without their motherfuckers. I love
Speaker 4: all my fans, and my fans some crazy motherfuckers, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and and and and for life.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be here, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And niggas need to realize that
Speaker 4: if you're an artist or any type of movie we actor,
Speaker 4: I'm give fuck who you is. If you can't respect
Speaker 4: your fans, nigga, fuck you bro straight up.
Speaker 1: Before we go, because he's saying crazy motherfuckers. You made
Speaker 1: me think of uh insane clownpos You ever performed at
Speaker 1: the Gathering of the Jugglers, the Insane clown Posey Festival?
Speaker 3: Yeah you have?
Speaker 2: You said, I having performed there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think so that I might have you for that.
Speaker 2: You know, they they they they fuck with me tough.
Speaker 4: I just I'm tripping like we should have been into
Speaker 4: the song together anything, but because I've been hearing a
Speaker 4: lot about you know, they like your music. A lot
Speaker 4: of people come to me and say, you know the
Speaker 4: same clown possibly fuck with Spice one and ship.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's crazy. So maybe I need to
Speaker 2: tell into that ship. You know you should and if
Speaker 2: you go, just happ into them warning it's a fuss.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But yes, I think everybody
Speaker 2: I liked it was crazy. It's like he jumping around
Speaker 2: and ship.
Speaker 1: Like it's an experience already.
Speaker 2: Go out spinning kicks. Some motherfuckers accidents.
Speaker 3: They they like you let's put it that way, Oh ship,
Speaker 3: what well?
Speaker 2: I just put my best do maybe maybe my hel
Speaker 2: with my motorcycle. The more they throw it more than
Speaker 2: the next one. The medicine boys n w A.
Speaker 3: Public Enemy.
Speaker 2: N w A.
Speaker 4: I kind of want to take a shot because I
Speaker 4: love Public Enemy too. Chuck D's now we gotta take
Speaker 4: a shot, becau. Chuck D is like, you know, a
Speaker 4: mentor to me, Like I look at Chuck Chuck D.
Speaker 2: Like that's the whole shot. Yeah, it's still something that's
Speaker 2: my niggas. So he's gonna make sure I drink that ship.
Speaker 2: He was make sure you get your money.
Speaker 3: Let me let me, don't get trunk and get drunk.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something, right and listen, is this
Speaker 3: is this is this is not scripted. This is this
Speaker 3: is really nothing here scripted. I mean what I'm saying
Speaker 3: is I just really thought, guys, really just thought about this, right,
Speaker 3: because you know, since this Kendrick thing has been going on,
Speaker 3: lots of people have been posting their old pictures of Kendrick.
Speaker 3: D posted an old picture of Kendrick which would have
Speaker 3: been it would have went over five, but quotes that
Speaker 3: they're not like us because they automatically make him an
Speaker 3: enemy of Drinke.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. Let me.
Speaker 3: Let me let me refer the question if you of
Speaker 3: court and you have some type of relationship with Drake
Speaker 3: and your court, they're not.
Speaker 1: Like, like you're so happy's so happy to cipher sounds,
Speaker 1: But what do you mean cyber sounds?
Speaker 3: Cipher sounds.
Speaker 1: Supposedly, his his assistant posted a track, I mean a
Speaker 1: picture of him in Canada and put not like Us
Speaker 1: as the song on the post and it's supposed to
Speaker 1: forty hit up.
Speaker 2: Not very happy and you.
Speaker 3: Got your mad I've been.
Speaker 2: So yeah. I think there's two ways.
Speaker 3: I mean in Switzerland. There's two ways to take that.
Speaker 3: Take the stance.
Speaker 1: You could be on the on the team Kendrick and
Speaker 1: be against Drake or on the team Kendrick and before
Speaker 1: hip hops.
Speaker 7: Not to mean that you're against Drake. The way you
Speaker 7: just say that was very politically get right. I'm just saying,
Speaker 7: like you got you can't be none of the AO shot.
Speaker 7: You can't be mad at what Kendrick's doing unifying people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying this, But he's unifying.
Speaker 1: People under a war song. No, but but he's unifying people.
Speaker 1: He's bringing lyrics back into the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the lyrics I'm not saying about the people.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying about what you're saying. You're saying is correct.
Speaker 3: I'm saying if I'm a person down with Drake's camp
Speaker 3: and I'm down with.
Speaker 2: Drake's team, mean, am I taking it personal to see Lebron?
Speaker 3: They're not like us?
Speaker 2: Yes? Why am I taking that personal relationships with them?
Speaker 2: So that's yeah, Yeah, he might. He might take it
Speaker 2: a little personal, Like you.
Speaker 3: See somebody dancing to a disrecord against you?
Speaker 2: Against you? Yeah, I mean, you know, but.
Speaker 4: If you got any hip hop experience, then it's kind
Speaker 4: of like you just got to take that ship how
Speaker 4: it goes, man, because you know.
Speaker 3: Even even with now, but now it's different though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's different with you.
Speaker 2: It's different now. That was like personal personal crazy.
Speaker 1: There's layers I'm saying, there's layers to this situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it ain't as simple as we want to make it. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: I know at that club when that song come on, cold.
Speaker 3: Face face, you did you. I see what you're saying,
Speaker 3: bro face, because if somebody feel me, oh now I'm
Speaker 3: on slopside.
Speaker 4: Like like like I'm like, okay, Pervan Perman example, I
Speaker 4: hate what you're saying. Look eating quick, quick.
Speaker 2: Eating quick. That's what my nigging something crazy y bro
Speaker 2: like that, and everybody know that.
Speaker 3: The opposite of blood and crypts this is this almost
Speaker 3: seems like a blood and criped.
Speaker 2: Beef tweeting this ship. Come on there and go see eight.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're super neutral and didn't.
Speaker 2: Quick nigga coming through comingo. I'm like he's like, now
Speaker 2: come through. I'm like over here. He's like I can't
Speaker 2: come over here, Like you gotta go down and go
Speaker 2: a few streets down and there. I'm like I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna walk a few streets down, this streets down and
Speaker 2: they come pick me up. I'm coming from the Bato.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: but but but when they play the DJ quick this
Speaker 2: to eight, I'm yeah, because both those my niggas, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I'm like, hey, I love
Speaker 2: y'all niggas. Man, I like to say, watch you might
Speaker 2: drink a little too much. And then you know, I'm
Speaker 2: at the house. Quick. I'm in Sacramento. Quick, do a
Speaker 2: show and sack and I'll hit him up.
Speaker 4: I'm like, nigga, come through the house if you ain't
Speaker 4: doing ship after the show, if you need someone to
Speaker 4: come come chill ship.
Speaker 2: I'm here. I got a little Backtor's pattern by myself.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He come through there. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We have a little party and
Speaker 2: that motherfucker. You know, I got the plaque, sit up
Speaker 2: an eight quick, look at the pact. He's like, man
Speaker 2: up here, don't touch my plaque out it better be
Speaker 2: here when you leave. Mother be in the garbage, burnt
Speaker 2: up and nothing. Mother, you my nigga. But y'all stopped
Speaker 2: that shit.
Speaker 3: Just stop just chilling.
Speaker 2: I always, you know, I always try to.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I will get I will
Speaker 3: try to not mediate, but I get in the minty
Speaker 3: with that ship.
Speaker 2: I remember when when you know what's your piece?
Speaker 4: Yeah, nigga, See if I seen back in the day,
Speaker 4: if I seen like dazz of corrupt, if they had
Speaker 4: an argument or disagreement or something with each other, I'll
Speaker 4: be like, Yeah, I'll be like, man, come on, y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all my favorite rap rap duo like don't do it,
Speaker 4: bro like y'all like my life. I listen to you
Speaker 4: niggas all the time. I'm dog pound nigga. I'm dog pound,
Speaker 4: don't do it, you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 4: that's how far we go back, though, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like, you know, I'm a Bay Area nigga
Speaker 4: that that come from the Bay and kick it in
Speaker 4: La with the cribs and the bloods.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I never had no problem with neither one of them,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Not the Bloods or the cribs.
Speaker 4: Every time I touched down there was always loved from
Speaker 4: watching to Compton to wherever, you know, the to Inglewoods
Speaker 4: or Piruse. It was always what's up, spice? You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying? What's popping?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I can have as much jewelry on me as I
Speaker 4: got on or whatever the fuck I'm I ain't nobody
Speaker 4: tripping on shit.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I throw a few niggas in the back I threw
Speaker 4: I go, I go through, Watch throw a few niggas
Speaker 4: in the back of the truck. I'm laughing at the
Speaker 4: laughing with the little niggas. Y'all got y'all pack, you
Speaker 4: got your banger on your nigga. They're like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 4: we we strapped spies.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, we're.
Speaker 4: Riding, riding through and we round up to motherfucking to
Speaker 4: the set of Baby Boy.
Speaker 2: The niggas and Baby Boy that jump Jody, that's stim niggas.
Speaker 3: In the movie in the movie. Man, Okay, what happened?
Speaker 4: How How does I just ride up and and and
Speaker 4: and and John single Too walked up to him and
Speaker 4: said I want to be in a movie.
Speaker 3: And they said yeah, and they was in it. Wow,
Speaker 3: speak of the John singer. Yes, I'm like, uh yeah,
Speaker 3: ice Cube or Scarface.
Speaker 2: Got drink to the pa.
Speaker 3: Scarface my cousin, like blood cousin.
Speaker 2: Damn. Now I see the resemblance. That's my blood cousin.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And ice Cube is somebody I looked up to the
Speaker 4: whole time. I tried, you know, straight up, but you
Speaker 4: got rid of my blunt immediately. No, I'm still puffing,
Speaker 4: still puffiny.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a blood Okay, Okay, okay, okay, I didn't
Speaker 3: go like that, Okay, So I so wait a minute, listen, man,
Speaker 3: this is this is a scarf faces hip royalty blood line.
Speaker 3: He's okay, how how did you find out Scarfaces your cousin?
Speaker 3: What kind of family reunion you'll have?
Speaker 2: Little J? Little J was prince. Yeah, we was at
Speaker 2: the video. We was at what do you call it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we was.
Speaker 4: We was draped up, dripped out video back in the day,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And Little J was standing
Speaker 4: across the parking lote he was you know, when Little
Speaker 4: Jay stare at you, you gotta kind of just be.
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is here for a nigga? You know,
Speaker 2: like what this need? And I was like what I
Speaker 2: was like what I do? He said, come here, you know.
Speaker 2: So I come over there and he's like, you know
Speaker 2: who you say your king is? He said, just like that, bro.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I start breaking it down
Speaker 3: to him who my fan was. He like like you,
Speaker 3: I think you you can to face or something, you know.
Speaker 3: So j Prison twenty three and meter and two point
Speaker 3: five seconds.
Speaker 2: He looked at me.
Speaker 4: He looked at me, and he was staring at me
Speaker 4: like dude, you kid of scar faces, you know, straight up.
Speaker 4: And so eventually I come back to Houston because I
Speaker 4: always go to Houston because I'm I was born in Texas.
Speaker 4: You know, my all my family in Houston and then
Speaker 4: Brian Texas you know, at college station, like all my
Speaker 4: family out there in Houston. And so I go out there,
Speaker 4: and you know, I come back and then my two
Speaker 4: cousins come up and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, nigga, you don't know that this is your cousin.
Speaker 3: Were your two cousins out there for this already out there?
Speaker 2: They come up with face and tell me that's their cousin.
Speaker 2: You don't know that's your cousin? Talk about you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're telling me I don't know that that face is
Speaker 2: my cousin. Oh my god, Yo, this is crazy. I'm tellous.
Speaker 3: So face is like, yeah, nigga, you know, I try
Speaker 3: to tell you. He was like little Jay was trying
Speaker 3: to tell you, nigga, you my cousin. Yo, Yo, my
Speaker 3: mom is your I team like this this type ship
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, you know that close damn you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, okay.
Speaker 2: So you know we found this out.
Speaker 4: This is a couple about It's like years ago around
Speaker 4: that time where the fucking video shop.
Speaker 3: I hope you all did a feature together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been working. We did that.
Speaker 4: We did that rolling with me and Devin a dude,
Speaker 4: and we had pack on the hook some ship. I
Speaker 4: pipe cutting the hook saying some ship he said, my
Speaker 4: was talking about me and something I found where he
Speaker 4: was saying my name or some ship somewhere and put
Speaker 4: through it in the hook and shit was dope. It's
Speaker 4: called rolling in my webcam chips with your bitch. Jenner spoke, yes, dein.
Speaker 2: H I see that.
Speaker 4: Shiit dope. You know it's it's a real smoking song.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta get hired to the motherfuck. It's
Speaker 4: even on the new album. But the song with Me
Speaker 4: and Devon a Dude, the smoking song on there with
Speaker 4: Me and my nigga north Side, It is the hardest fuck.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That ship is That ship
Speaker 4: is sick. You know what I'm saying north Side of
Speaker 4: the building. But in here, hey, it ain't easy.
Speaker 3: That's the name of the song Me and Devin a
Speaker 3: Dude in North Sides on a platinumotion too.
Speaker 2: Rather be loved or feared, I'll say feared. I'ma I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get love, you know what I'm saying. But fear
Speaker 2: it's more.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, you don't want no motherfucker out here
Speaker 4: trying to cross you, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck how much love you got,
Speaker 4: a nigga, I don't need you out here trying to
Speaker 4: cross me, Like I can't have you out here. You
Speaker 4: know I'm kicking it with the nigga, And in the
Speaker 4: back of your mind you like you know I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get that nigga, you know.
Speaker 2: Sneaky ass snake bullshit.
Speaker 4: That's why I got another song on a new album
Speaker 4: called I'd Rather eat crumbs with bums and.
Speaker 2: Eat steaks with snakes.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like these motherfuckers, it's just
Speaker 4: such thing is a bitch ass rich nigga's mother. I
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck how niggas tell you just because
Speaker 4: a nigga got money don't mean here a real motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Everybody gotta really realize that ship.
Speaker 4: It's so many motherfuckers out here walking around with a
Speaker 4: lot of money thinking they're real nigga. But you a
Speaker 4: sucker out. You know what I'm saying, You a sucker all.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, real spit uh. And the
Speaker 4: only reason why motherfucking across is because you're gonna spend
Speaker 4: money to have a nigga knocked down. You can't do
Speaker 4: it yourself, is your sucker off, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a it's a difference between that
Speaker 4: ship and motherfucker's got to realize that.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: The crazy part about the game right now is that
Speaker 4: you know he got more money, he the best rapper.
Speaker 4: That don't make him the best motherfucking rapper because he
Speaker 4: got more money. Nigga niggas like nigga, motherfucker get a
Speaker 4: nigga on the stage of Wrap circles around his motherfucking ass. No, no, no, namer,
Speaker 4: motherfucker came from from Motter the fucking clear blue sky.
Speaker 4: Get on stage and I'll rap one of these motherfuckers
Speaker 4: right now. I don't know who actually actually wrapped, and
Speaker 4: a lot of his ass up, like, don't get it
Speaker 4: fucked up. You know what I'm saying, Nigga, within your career,
Speaker 4: if you really start sucking with a real if you
Speaker 4: get on stage with a real rap artist, Nigga, he
Speaker 4: with in your whole fucking career right there, just like
Speaker 4: motherfucking just like we got going right now with motherfucking
Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2: And all of that ship.
Speaker 4: You know, you fucking niggas who really get down brouh.
Speaker 4: It's a difference. So you know what I'm saying. Motherfuckers
Speaker 4: who live, eat and ship, they slip this ship. It's
Speaker 4: a different whole different breeding niggah. Some motherfuckers. Some motherfuckers eat.
Speaker 4: Some motherfuckers eat pussy because they like because the girl
Speaker 4: enjoyed it. Some motherfuckers eating because they enjoyed it. That's
Speaker 4: the real rappers out here.
Speaker 2: Nigga. I do this ship because I like to. This
Speaker 2: is what I do. Broh, this is what I do.
Speaker 1: I do this.
Speaker 2: You like to eat the pussy, That's what I do.
Speaker 2: That's what I do.
Speaker 3: That's an't.
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, use I'm an You can't
Speaker 2: even metaphor I can to get you niggas to understand,
Speaker 2: this is what the funk I do.
Speaker 3: Like I was, I wasn't ready, but I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, I'm a damn food so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: spin it every time.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, I'm doggy style or
Speaker 3: the chronic mm hmm, Damn I gotta take a shot.
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, y'all, bother.
Speaker 4: I know I can understand why people say that ship like, y'all,
Speaker 4: I'll be killing it with that ship like, because that's
Speaker 4: a hard decision.
Speaker 3: It has been easy if you have said, without no chronic,
Speaker 3: there wouldn't be no dog Yeah you could. That's that's
Speaker 3: the easy out. That was the easy out. But you
Speaker 3: wanted to drink.
Speaker 2: I know that, But ye.
Speaker 3: Hes drinking on the next one.
Speaker 2: We know this right now.
Speaker 3: Corrupt, corrupt, by the way, I'm.
Speaker 2: I can't either sugar free or keep the sneak. Damn
Speaker 2: dang shout out.
Speaker 4: To sugar free and keep the sneak man. Y'alls man,
Speaker 4: both of y'all niggas dope. I know all y'all music
Speaker 4: bang that ship all.
Speaker 3: The time, Okay, Rap City or your over TV raps
Speaker 3: rap City, Okay, rap City, because I think they just
Speaker 3: had more.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just more.
Speaker 4: You know you could see different ship on their posts
Speaker 4: that they would have a kind of like the same
Speaker 4: program going on your MTV or Rap City would have
Speaker 4: some different ship, you know, different artists on there that
Speaker 4: you would see all you would always see him on MTV,
Speaker 4: but you wouldn't see him on Rap rap City.
Speaker 2: That was cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, again, I don't write these questions, God's write them
Speaker 3: over there, Kenjick Lamar or Drake.
Speaker 2: Kendrick simply because Canada won't let me, simply because Canada
Speaker 2: won't let me.
Speaker 4: Into the motherfucking country. Fuck y'all, motherfuckers. I'm gonna figure
Speaker 4: out a way to get in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be good. I'm coming through there and get
Speaker 4: my money and ship. How you're playing because of the felonies.
Speaker 2: From from from from from since ninety from ninety six,
Speaker 2: like come on, y'all. You know what I'm saying for real?
Speaker 4: From ninety six, Bro, I'm gonna hold different motherfucker now,
Speaker 4: but I can't come into y'all country. They're not like us,
Speaker 4: not like us. To the guards that searched me and
Speaker 4: looked at my tattoos, y'all not like us. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: from California. I'm from California. I got a few felonies
Speaker 4: and bullet holes and tattoos. But that don't mean I'm
Speaker 4: gonna come to your country and tear your country. Man,
Speaker 4: Get up out of here. Bro, came to see why
Speaker 4: I was coming to see my son. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, y'all tripping?
Speaker 3: Was it ready for the answer. They're not like us.
Speaker 2: They not like us.
Speaker 3: Drake Oder Ruler or JACKA Jacket Go with Jacket, man,
Speaker 3: that's that I liked. I like Jacket's music. Plus, you know,
Speaker 3: you know he's part of I felt like he was
Speaker 3: a part of my click because he was a part
Speaker 3: of Sea Sea Bowl Click and all of that. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Me and Sea Bow go back.
Speaker 3: It's just you know that right there, just just set
Speaker 3: it off. That's my old school homie, you know, as
Speaker 3: far as far as they whole group and everything jacket
Speaker 3: for show. Okay, last one before we get into the
Speaker 3: last one, rest in peace forty or be legit. M
Speaker 3: gotta take a shot.
Speaker 2: Those both of my big cut.
Speaker 3: Hmm, the last one and did we go go into
Speaker 3: the regular interviews?
Speaker 2: Okay, Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 4: Loyalty because without you know, without without loyalty, ain't no respect.
Speaker 4: You can't have you know, you got to have respect
Speaker 4: to have loyalty to a motherfucker. So I'll rather have
Speaker 4: a motherfucker loyalty because loyalty don't come with it without respect.
Speaker 4: Say that time, I'm sorry. Loyalty don't come without respect.
Speaker 4: You got to respect somebody to be loyal to him.
Speaker 4: So I choose loyalty because you're gonna give both of
Speaker 4: those in one anyway. You know, if a motherfucking loyalty you,
Speaker 4: they got to respect you straight up, because you know
Speaker 4: all that if motherfucker you can peep disrespect, Loyalty is.
Speaker 3: Hitting, you know what I'm saying. Got to show you
Speaker 3: some loyalty. You can high loyal. You could act like you're.
Speaker 2: Loyal, not be you know what I'm saying, same thing,
Speaker 2: but I just you know, I feel like you have
Speaker 2: to have respect to, you know, be loyal to a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, so I would choose lawyers.
Speaker 3: I listen, you don't have to take a shot. I'm
Speaker 3: taking a shot because your answer was fucking you don't
Speaker 3: have to. I mean, I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 2: I'm taking a drink. I'm taking So I got the
Speaker 2: Hennessy bottle tattoo right here, so you know you need
Speaker 2: that sponsorship.
Speaker 3: So jealousy got me strapped. Do you understand how long
Speaker 3: ago you made that record? You can drop that record
Speaker 3: right now to this day today, look at me, look
Speaker 3: at me today, You drop that today. It's all relevant
Speaker 3: to what's happening right now. Do you understand that?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know how many years.
Speaker 3: Ago this record came out, but you can drop it
Speaker 3: today and you can and it's the same exact message.
Speaker 3: Are you mad? Like it's a two part question, because
Speaker 3: when you make a record, you try to solve a problem,
Speaker 3: right yeah, So on one hand, I'm asking you, are
Speaker 3: you mad because your message is still the same like
Speaker 3: throughout these years?
Speaker 2: Or are you mad?
Speaker 3: Because the I'm not saying you mad, but what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is, are you bugging that the same exact message
Speaker 3: that you related those many years ago circumstances, it's the
Speaker 3: same circumstances right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like we ain't learned shit. It's like, damn,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like pock Am Biggie is dead.
Speaker 2: That should have taught motherfuckers to do something about that
Speaker 2: from the jump.
Speaker 3: Like the UH.
Speaker 2: Generation under us, I figured, you know they would.
Speaker 4: They would think, you know, damn pocking Biggie eyed over
Speaker 4: that ship and them niggas was out there getting money.
Speaker 4: Like the intelligent part of the generation under US. I
Speaker 4: would think, Okay, we've seen them niggas get money, like
Speaker 4: and then they died like too soon, like they was
Speaker 4: getting money, Like.
Speaker 2: What if they didn't.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna think ahead and be like, you
Speaker 4: know what if I get money like that, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do this.
Speaker 2: But they didn't. It just got worse. That's what's fucked up.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, niggas got to dieing like just because
Speaker 4: they because they get on the motherfucking they go to
Speaker 4: UH to he take some pictures or show that they
Speaker 4: on Facebook somewhere with all that Joel's on or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they yapped up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Right there, like next thing, you know, they somebody that
Speaker 4: came through and killed them for the for the for
Speaker 4: the ship. Uh, and they was trying to give it
Speaker 4: to them anyway. They just wanted to catch them get
Speaker 4: the murder around there. They belt or catch a you know,
Speaker 4: uh for some for some cloud and they and they
Speaker 4: in they gang, they rapping.
Speaker 2: Or whatever they're doing, or you know, it may have
Speaker 2: been an initiation in it somewhere, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or however, the motherfucker go down. But you can't slip
Speaker 2: like that now, you can't. You can't wear your jewelry
Speaker 2: everywhere and go to the motherfucking uh to the to
Speaker 2: the restaurant and take pictures and ship and go live
Speaker 2: and ship, you know what I'm saying. But let's be honest.
Speaker 2: Should have never been doing it anyways, you think about anyway.
Speaker 1: That's that's calling attention anyway, because we come to a
Speaker 1: generation where you don't call attention to yourself.
Speaker 2: Man, the biggest d boys in my hood was driving
Speaker 2: uh Dauphine rentals. Man.
Speaker 4: When I say Dolphine rentals, I mean they got it
Speaker 4: from a dopphend Man. They just driving that motherfucker around.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, kicking if when they want
Speaker 4: to ride, they they ship, they be out of town.
Speaker 4: When they riding they real ship, they be they be
Speaker 4: in a whole different town or something. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Rules to this ship.
Speaker 4: If you don't follow them, you'll be a victim to
Speaker 4: the gang. You know what I'm saying, real spit like
Speaker 4: it's I'm gonna repeat that, it's rules to this ship.
Speaker 4: If you don't follow women, you will be a victim
Speaker 4: of the game. Respect the game.
Speaker 1: But are the rules still being applied today? Are they
Speaker 1: broadcasted today? That is the problem the rules. This generation
Speaker 1: don't know the rules. The generations coming up don't.
Speaker 2: Know the rules. And some of them, well there a
Speaker 2: lot of them. They suffer the consequence and.
Speaker 1: By calling them rules, they think they're rebelling against rules.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be called rules. Even yes, there's ways to live,
Speaker 1: so you can live. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: do one too others mother the golden rule. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But they don't do that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like you got two types of gangsters out here.
Speaker 3: You got the gangster, the real g you know, he
Speaker 3: he's trying to stay under the radar. He ain't fucking
Speaker 3: with that ship. You know what I'm saying. He didn't
Speaker 3: got so many murders under.
Speaker 4: He trying to chill, you know what I'm saying, want
Speaker 4: to be And then you got the other mother fucking
Speaker 4: that's out here, like you know what motherfucker's what he doing.
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a I'm a Oh you need you
Speaker 4: need this hommie here? I'm are you a rap artist?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, you need some jewelry and ship? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: yeah you need some you know you want to ride
Speaker 2: that nice car and ship? I can hook that up
Speaker 2: fail yeah here? Okay, yeah you got that homie's cool? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What my money at that? For my money? Oh?
Speaker 4: You ain't got my money for real? Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: somethings gonna happen in your ass. You got these type
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers out here. You know it's it's it's some
Speaker 4: ship out here that go down brouh.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, you gotta.
Speaker 4: Be able to hold your own you know if you
Speaker 4: talking that ship, you gotta back that ship up.
Speaker 2: Brouh. I'm six feet maybe two hundred and thirty some pounds.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know how to get
Speaker 2: down you're knocking. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, real spit.
Speaker 2: You know it's nothing we can get out I can.
Speaker 4: I love all you niggas, but I go I catch
Speaker 4: a fade with anybody in here in the room, and
Speaker 4: all y'all should feel the same way.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Motherfucker can't be up.
Speaker 8: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't go in the room.
Speaker 8: You can't.
Speaker 2: I can't go in in the boxing ring thinking you're
Speaker 2: gonna lose no matter what the fuck you're doing.
Speaker 4: Bro, you gotta always think you're gonna win, period, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But but but you got you
Speaker 4: got motherfuckers out here that that really try to uh
Speaker 4: take you for the Oakie dog, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Try to play you and ship, So you gotta be
Speaker 4: able to hold your own, especially if you're talking that ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Uh, if you not about that,
Speaker 4: then don't talk about that. If I'm with somebody and
Speaker 4: they kicking and they tell me, hey, just like you said, Hey, man,
Speaker 4: you know I ain't I'm good on that ship. You
Speaker 4: know my nigga ain't with that ship though, but I am. No,
Speaker 4: I'm with it though, what is it? You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it ain't no, it ain't no. I
Speaker 4: got to, like I said, I put the one on
Speaker 4: the end of my linad because sometimes I had to
Speaker 4: rock Aloan and I and I had to you know,
Speaker 4: I had to, you know, do whatever I had to do,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I mean.
Speaker 4: With all of that said, man, you know it's it's
Speaker 4: a lot of ship out here you got to deal
Speaker 4: with as an artist when it comes to motherfuckers even
Speaker 4: trying to extort you when doing weird ass ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Contracts you side, you know, you got this motherfucker they like,
Speaker 4: you know, hey, you know we're gonna sign him over
Speaker 4: here and shit, and this nigga gonna do.
Speaker 2: This, you know.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you got a lot of ship going
Speaker 4: on out here, you know, as an artist, and then
Speaker 4: sometimes you don't even get then you don't even get
Speaker 4: paid for your ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but.
Speaker 4: I figure I always always, you know, I'm just a
Speaker 4: ride of die motherfucking man, you know, and even for
Speaker 4: my home even for my guys, for my homeboys, and ship,
Speaker 4: you know, because I ain't never like to see nobody
Speaker 4: get bullied and ship. Never liked that ship, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I always was the nigga to step
Speaker 4: in and be like, he ain't with the ship. But
Speaker 4: I am though, you know what I'm saying. And sometime
Speaker 4: it take that you gotta be built for this, for
Speaker 4: this ship, you know, uh, military style nigga. You know,
Speaker 4: some of my niggas they like, you know, I want
Speaker 4: to go on tour with you, Spice, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2: You know what's rock, you know, and we go out
Speaker 2: and ship. They're like, you know, we go to do
Speaker 2: the show and ship.
Speaker 3: It's two and cock in the water. We partying this ship.
Speaker 3: We gotta catch him playing at for.
Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga, you better get your ass up right
Speaker 2: here in this other fucking hotel. I got another show
Speaker 2: to do to pick up some money. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You better get your ass up. These niggas
Speaker 2: come out the hotel they early and everything too. As
Speaker 2: they come out the front door and they early throw it.
Speaker 4: I said, oh, well, my job, easy had a shit easy,
Speaker 4: I said, Ye'll put your backpack on. Nigga, we lay
Speaker 4: for the plane. You gotta run through the airport. We
Speaker 4: had to run through the airport after you threw up
Speaker 4: the ship, after you went earlier. This shit, we gonna
Speaker 4: un through the airport. You just stay here, get to
Speaker 4: the airport, nigga. It's some motherfuckers up there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like some twenty year olds and ship. Y'all twenty
Speaker 3: year old niggas. It's twenty year olds. We all lay
Speaker 3: for the same plane. We all rudy and ship. I
Speaker 3: took a few steps with that big ass backpack, nigga.
Speaker 3: It was like telling it's a whole motherfucker. Tell him
Speaker 3: I'm coming.
Speaker 2: Just tell him coming. You know.
Speaker 3: By the time I got to the fucking gate, I
Speaker 3: thought I was gonna die. I was like, I was
Speaker 3: telling myself, this is how you're gonna die, nigga. Trying
Speaker 3: to get to your fucking flight to go to the show.
Speaker 3: That's how you're gonna die. This is how spice one's
Speaker 3: gonna die. In the airport and try to get to
Speaker 3: his fucking flight on the plane because.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on on sweating, hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 4: on one second, one second, just get me I was
Speaker 4: board in a minute.
Speaker 2: I need a pre boarding pass. So, I mean, you
Speaker 2: know this shit is. It ain't easy, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. No easy at all. You need to know
Speaker 2: this motherfucker real spiit. But let me ask you.
Speaker 3: I wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto was inspired by you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's the name of your song? That kind
Speaker 3: of welcome to the ghetto. Welcome to the ghetto. I
Speaker 3: got that in my notes. Yeah, it's welcome to the ghetto,
Speaker 3: come to thegether.
Speaker 2: Look at that. That's what you. Yeah, I want you
Speaker 2: to know. Welcome to the gather. All right, welcome to
Speaker 2: the ghetto. Come on.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know my shit is on point.
Speaker 3: I just got notes now because I gotta album. Be
Speaker 3: fucking drunk.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, living day by day in my hood
Speaker 4: on the spot, see the same old thing, same dop things, cops,
Speaker 4: just the average day in the streets, California. Five to
Speaker 4: zo found a young girl dead around the corner. Mommy's
Speaker 4: on her knees. She had tears in her eyes, and
Speaker 4: nobody knew why the young girl had to die. People
Speaker 4: look ashamed. It's been like this for years, bloody sheets
Speaker 4: on her body's face, wet from my mommy's tears. She
Speaker 4: couldn't have been over four or five. And if Mammy
Speaker 4: was based, she would still be alive. But now the
Speaker 4: street is a place you could be swallow by death.
Speaker 4: Niggas taking each other's lives and going to rest in peace.
Speaker 4: I wonder if Heaven got a get. You know, my
Speaker 4: cousin died last year and I still can't let go
Speaker 4: in his rhyme, but.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me also say something, hold hold on.
Speaker 3: Before we clapped, this is a double clap, and I
Speaker 3: believe this is your brother, and I believe jay Z
Speaker 3: has said something like this. Jay Z said, when I,
Speaker 3: you know, take big lyrics, I'm only bicking up my
Speaker 3: brother to me that what you just said was he took.
Speaker 3: Let me say this. He made a concept Brenda has
Speaker 3: a baby, and Heaven got a ghetto with that same
Speaker 3: goddamn song. I'm sorry, like because I want to ferry
Speaker 3: kick out. No Tupac fans are crazy. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, but I want them to know that I
Speaker 3: know the history like I know the history. Like when
Speaker 3: you listen to that record, I hear Brenda's got a
Speaker 3: Baby inspired by you obviously.
Speaker 2: And Brenda's Baby inspired by but you were?
Speaker 3: Did you hear not hear that verse? I don't think
Speaker 3: Brenda's got a baby.
Speaker 4: I mean Mamma's on her knees, she had tears in
Speaker 4: her eyes, and nobody knew why the young girl had
Speaker 4: to die. People look ashamed, but like this for years,
Speaker 4: bloody sheets on the body, face wet from my mama's tears.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's similar, right, because they said that Brenda's Gonna Baby
Speaker 1: was inspired by a specific person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying that spark I'm saying from from his
Speaker 3: record inspired him to get his own babe, his which
Speaker 3: is hip hop. Yeah, which he's inspiring everything. But but
Speaker 3: I would if Pop was alive, I would think would
Speaker 3: say I got both of those ideas from him.
Speaker 2: I can see that. I can well he would call
Speaker 2: me and CO would call me if he like I
Speaker 2: took your.
Speaker 3: And left Guy's friends, tell me like I took your ship, nigga,
Speaker 3: I'll be like, what you know what I'm saying, nigga
Speaker 3: when you said, I remember he called me specifically when you.
Speaker 2: Said as nigga eater.
Speaker 3: Wait that specifically, I got two bigs, bitch, two big
Speaker 3: pits of color, my.
Speaker 4: Bitch, nigga eaters. And I was like, but he got
Speaker 4: it from from from my song off from one of
Speaker 4: my fucking song I can't even remember. But he called
Speaker 4: me and he told me like I took this ship.
Speaker 4: I got so many songs though, man, Like I said,
Speaker 4: I got so much ship. I want I need somebody
Speaker 4: to check. I need a challenge because I need to
Speaker 4: know how many who got the most songs on the internet,
Speaker 4: Which rapper got the most songs on the internet right now?
Speaker 2: Like, because I got a lot of ship on that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Like I also heard you.
Speaker 3: Let me change it up just for a second. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go back to that. Say that, like about Tupac documentary,
Speaker 3: right and you said, you know the only thing that
Speaker 3: kind of makes or maybe it's the Tubac movie you took, mam.
Speaker 2: He was like, that makes it right? Is that pot
Speaker 2: you used to listen to my ship all day? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was crazy, Like he said, listen to you all day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because any motherfuckers is telling me, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: Pip jumped in the car and uh, dude didn't like
Speaker 4: hip hop music. I was watching some interview and and
Speaker 4: somebody was like, man, they were sitting in the car
Speaker 4: with with with Hazing Hayes and Jack or whatever and
Speaker 4: and uh uh and and they was and and pack
Speaker 4: was finish, get in the car and hasan Jack didn't
Speaker 4: like hip hop music or uh weed and ship and
Speaker 4: and and he said pot hopped in the car and
Speaker 4: they put in strap.
Speaker 2: On the side and fired up. Dude said he didn't
Speaker 2: want to get out there. He said he wanted to
Speaker 2: get out the car. After that. I can't remember who
Speaker 2: it was when I seen the interview, and.
Speaker 3: It was funny as hell because it was, you know,
Speaker 3: just just just that's that's popped my side.
Speaker 2: That was his ship play.
Speaker 3: He's good, he's good.
Speaker 2: To pac will play Strap on the side back to back.
Speaker 4: We was in court in the courthouse, parked in the
Speaker 4: parking lot playing Trapped out.
Speaker 2: Of the house case Yeah, okay, played it loud as fun.
Speaker 4: Just I'm like, you know, we in the uh courthouse
Speaker 4: parking lot, right, you know, I'm telling you know, Jo,
Speaker 4: you were.
Speaker 3: Fun turned it out thinking turned it out time turn
Speaker 3: that ship up me because it was known that this
Speaker 3: is like a like an in the street kind of
Speaker 3: like story that you were like Pok's goon and Park
Speaker 3: was supposed to be a goon, Like so how does
Speaker 3: that work?
Speaker 2: It was like I was, you know, even when we
Speaker 2: was like and I you know, seventeen eighteen, maybe I
Speaker 2: think I was.
Speaker 4: I was, I was twenty. He was what was nineteen?
Speaker 4: Like his birthday was was just last month? Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was kids my birthday next month.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So we you know, here
Speaker 2: a Gemini and you I'm a cancer, okay, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: we're right next.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: His birthday was just on the sixteenth minus on the
Speaker 2: second of July. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Seeing the shop of that, a shop of that real spit.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, motherfucker show look cancer and Gemi. Gemini always
Speaker 3: kick it, you know what I'm saying. Without a lot
Speaker 3: of Geminis don't get along with motherfuckers. Only they get
Speaker 3: along with be the cancer. It's true, we rock out,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. D J is a Gemini
Speaker 3: package Gemini like crazy with the rock with me and
Speaker 3: Ship like but we see, we see what it is.
Speaker 3: You know, Ship, it's all love. Like I remember some
Speaker 3: some motherfuckers. You just you just when you were cancer,
Speaker 3: You just you were chill, nigga. You just went to
Speaker 3: sit back and wait fer cancer crazy man?
Speaker 2: When when? But but we go crazy when motherfuckers least expected.
Speaker 3: Man, that's going crazy. They'll be expecting for it.
Speaker 2: We've been cooking, Gemini, be cracking the funk up.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: Understand the answer. We're like, okay, we see it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ok Ship, you know we already established she did three
Speaker 3: months in La County. But this is something that there's
Speaker 3: a deep question for me. You said that you and
Speaker 3: Park one time you got together after he had got
Speaker 3: shot in New York. Yeah, and he described me the situation.
Speaker 3: And then he told you at one point after he
Speaker 3: got shot, he lit a blunt. Yeah, and he said
Speaker 3: I wanted to die high. He wanted to die high, Ship,
Speaker 3: And you said you wrote a song about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a song called I Want to Die High.
Speaker 2: Put a song.
Speaker 3: Vast majority of people know that that I want to
Speaker 3: Die High song is about this.
Speaker 2: Two box situation. Yeah, they do know they.
Speaker 4: Should because at the beginning of the song is it
Speaker 4: starts off with me saying that, like with me saying it,
Speaker 4: you know, he said he wanted to die high, you know,
Speaker 4: and then it come out, you know, the song it's
Speaker 4: like some real laid back ship. Though it's a dope
Speaker 4: ass track. Man, I love a song, definitely. It's out now.
Speaker 4: You can go check it out now. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: just crazy when he's saying that. I didn't understand what he.
Speaker 2: Was in California talking about this.
Speaker 4: He came and picked me up after I got out
Speaker 4: of jail because he was still tripping. Because the first
Speaker 4: thing he was talking about, he said, and I just
Speaker 4: did two albums with a fuck was you at? And
Speaker 4: I said, I was in La I was in the county.
Speaker 4: And then he said, I'm coming to get you. And
Speaker 4: he came through the uh, the Mandrion and next to
Speaker 4: the House of.
Speaker 2: Blues right there.
Speaker 4: Okay, he came swoop me up there and he had
Speaker 4: the Bentley outside convertible and ship and he was like, nigga,
Speaker 4: you're gonna show you. The Bentley came out there. I've
Speaker 4: seen the balance like that shit dope, you know, and
Speaker 4: you know, he had this band doanna all. So I
Speaker 4: didn't see nothing, you know, driving and ship and next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, motherfucker, uh just riding it.
Speaker 2: You know. He got the top down and he like,
Speaker 2: you know this this is my ship. Man.
Speaker 4: We get to his house and uh whereas I guess
Speaker 4: where was melable? And Mom's at the top of the stairs.
Speaker 4: Bennie up the top of the stairs and she like
Speaker 4: waving down and he said, and he said, I'm not
Speaker 4: making this ship up.
Speaker 2: You know, I swear to guy on my mama's grave,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Pack was like, you know, he said, Mama, if anything
Speaker 4: happened to me, this is my nigga right here. This
Speaker 4: is some shit I ain't just making. I'm not lying,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not making that ship up. My nigga
Speaker 4: said that to Feoenie, said that to his mama, said Mama,
Speaker 4: if anything ever happened to me, this is my nigga
Speaker 4: right here. And I was like, what's up, a feenie,
Speaker 4: what was happening? And he said, Mama, make us some sandwichees.
Speaker 1: So what do you just for anybody? I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what you mean by it, but to paint it
Speaker 1: even simpler. What do you think he meant by that
Speaker 1: by telling her that, like, if you need if you
Speaker 1: if you need a real nigga around you, if something
Speaker 1: happened to me, then then this is him.
Speaker 2: You could trust him, trust him right basically, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And that meant a lie to me
Speaker 2: when he told his mama dad, so a mean a
Speaker 2: lot to anybody. Yeah, So he like, man, let's let's
Speaker 2: go back here and smoke.
Speaker 4: So we go back and we go into the He
Speaker 4: had like a little room back there and shit in
Speaker 4: the back of the connected to the house and ship.
Speaker 2: It was on the beach. It was a nice spot
Speaker 2: to the beach and ship backyard and the beach type shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. With the with the outer
Speaker 4: out room and ship. You know, he got a pile
Speaker 4: of weed on the table with ship, and we we
Speaker 4: started rolling and smoking up and then and then I'm
Speaker 4: looking at it and I'm like, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 4: what happened?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He was like, man, said,
Speaker 3: what happened? He told myrow incident in New York.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, And he was like and then he took
Speaker 4: his bandanna off and he had a dent in his
Speaker 4: head right there, and that wasn't there before. And and
Speaker 4: when when I seen that, I was just like, man,
Speaker 4: hell naw, I said, you went out there and and
Speaker 4: and came back like that, my nigga, So how you
Speaker 4: go out there and come back like that?
Speaker 2: That was my first question, Like, man, you know how
Speaker 2: you going that? What the fuck? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, I went through the motherfucking hotel,
Speaker 4: he said. Niggas was looking over newspapers and ship like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, studio, not the hotel, a
Speaker 3: hotel like wasard it connected to a hotel or so
Speaker 3: of course, just like well so it looked like the hotels.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's motherfuckers at the bottom of this.
Speaker 3: I saw that interview where you said that, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I've been a squad studio and it's crazy been
Speaker 3: a quad studio recently. So the people they talk about
Speaker 3: was actually the security guard. They were scared to death.
Speaker 3: They had probably saying nothing. I mean, when I saw
Speaker 3: the interview, did I love the security of the building
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: Kind of that's crazy because I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to address this when I when I kept seeing
Speaker 3: these interviews with you, always wanted to address and by
Speaker 3: the way, I'm outside looking in, it's the inside of
Speaker 3: looking at it.
Speaker 2: This is your perspective on it. You're you're sick. Big
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with that. Yeah, and I never
Speaker 2: thought it did either, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what the fuck was going on because
Speaker 4: I just felt like they shouldn't. They knew who's who
Speaker 4: did them? Niggas was down there, like.
Speaker 2: You know, like you know they this y'all ship, Like
Speaker 2: how y'all didn't know that niggas was downstairs. Let me
Speaker 2: let me just say this.
Speaker 3: Let me just say this again. It's the outside that's
Speaker 3: looking in. That's the inside of us looking at From
Speaker 3: what I heard, I have no factual proof Park was
Speaker 3: attracted to the unattracted, not straight you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: People that and he kept affiliateating himself with people that was.
Speaker 3: They was telling me that too, and Big from what
Speaker 3: I know because I was I wasn't around with Tupac,
Speaker 3: I was around after so before what I know, Big
Speaker 3: was telling them. So all the reactions that he he
Speaker 3: he kind of like took was was reactions of kind
Speaker 3: of like I told you so. So, I told you so,
Speaker 3: Mody look the same exact way us. You shouldn't have
Speaker 3: walked in that room. It's probably the same exact reaction.
Speaker 3: But from what I know now, because I got no stretch,
Speaker 3: I know Tresh, Yeah, I know everybody that, like I
Speaker 3: mean from from my side, from from the East coast,
Speaker 3: and that's what I gather from it.
Speaker 2: Now. I could be wrong. No, you you're completely right.
Speaker 2: But but but but the thing is when you're dealing
Speaker 2: with the mind of a crazy nigga though yeah, no
Speaker 2: one knew at that time. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like that nigga was crazy, like when he when he
Speaker 2: needed to be, and so the crazy kicked in. You know,
Speaker 2: we all crazy when we need to be.
Speaker 3: So that nigga, the crazy kick never accused you seven number,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: He never would.
Speaker 4: But but the crazy kicks in, like you know, if
Speaker 4: a motherfucker gets shot, you see, you know I've been
Speaker 4: shot before and.
Speaker 2: I didn't, don't you know, Look, the crazy kick in, like.
Speaker 3: Anybody start blaming everyone. People know what it might have been.
Speaker 3: You Like, wait a minute, I was in Kansas, like
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, like you you can't shoot him, crazy
Speaker 4: nigga and he lives. He don't think everybody did it,
Speaker 4: so you know, it was kind of like everybody trying
Speaker 4: to say, hey, you know, he didn't have to do it,
Speaker 4: like he didn't have to do it. No, No, it
Speaker 4: wasn't him, not you know, but this nigga only one,
Speaker 4: Like fuck, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it was kind of hard trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: break it down, like say, hey, I don't think he
Speaker 2: had another door. That's he did, motherfucker? Did you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's you ever seen the funk
Speaker 2: Flex footage?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I never see that, hey man, And.
Speaker 4: It was fucked up because I seen this ship and
Speaker 4: I was like, man, you know I got mad at
Speaker 4: Flex for that ship.
Speaker 3: Like, which, what did you think I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Which? What did you think I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: When he was crying and he was saying that that
Speaker 4: Tupac I got for this ship, Like man, why are
Speaker 4: you even bringing that ship up? Like leave that ship alone,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, like basically, cut that
Speaker 4: ship with you.
Speaker 3: I don't think I think Flex had the wrong information.
Speaker 3: I don't think that Tupac lied. I think he was
Speaker 3: fed the wrong information and he fed that part to
Speaker 3: the world because I can tell, I can guarantee you
Speaker 3: as a person that I'm not feeling no more I was,
Speaker 3: and Big had nothing.
Speaker 2: And I could even say that my my, my whole
Speaker 2: aura about Big, in my and my vibe about Big.
Speaker 2: Never let me think that he had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with that. Bro. Like I just couldn't say, you know, like, nah,
Speaker 2: I just you know, even though what was going on
Speaker 2: with all of the other shit, oh girl, all of that,
Speaker 2: I was just still just like, man, you know, nah, nah,
Speaker 2: he more of a he, more of a he more
Speaker 2: wanted us than than that, though, Bro, he ain't gonna
Speaker 2: be down like that.
Speaker 3: And then you know, it's crazy because later on in life,
Speaker 3: you know where it came on number one West Coast Market,
Speaker 3: Bay Area, Man, Yeah, you know, we fuck with you though, Like,
Speaker 3: and I always wanted to say, like, say the story
Speaker 3: because obviously I wasn't there at that time when with
Speaker 3: Park Big or that, I wasn't there. But from all
Speaker 3: the information that I gathered and all the information to me,
Speaker 3: Pap was a New York guy moved to Baltimore, then
Speaker 3: moved to Oakland and then moved to la And by
Speaker 3: the way, this it makes him like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to say crazy because then that's gonna make it like simplistic.
Speaker 3: Bit he was a genius because he mastered every market,
Speaker 3: like every market. Like like I've been in Miami sixteen years.
Speaker 3: I still can't say the crib correctly. I still can't
Speaker 3: say your dog where they say dog, your dog. You know,
Speaker 3: I was I was just sounds.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to feel the actors that they have that
Speaker 4: play Tupac, every actor that they have to play Tupac.
Speaker 2: It's very not convinced.
Speaker 3: You say he had a New York as he had
Speaker 3: a New York accent.
Speaker 2: No matter what, he didn't say New York.
Speaker 4: He said New York. He talked like he's from New York. Nigga,
Speaker 4: he talk like he's.
Speaker 2: From New York. You know what I'm saying. You continue,
Speaker 2: he talked from the East Coast. His accent was East Coast.
Speaker 3: So every time they did a movie and the motherfucker
Speaker 3: doing the movie playing his role had a he had
Speaker 3: a West Coast accent. I was like, motherfuckers, y'all really
Speaker 3: didn't know the nigga, Like, like, what the fuck though,
Speaker 3: come on, my nigga, Like y'all didn't know the nigga.
Speaker 2: Man, he had an East Coast accent. He just he
Speaker 2: came from the East.
Speaker 4: But but he got down with the West because he
Speaker 4: just fell in love with the West when he touched down,
Speaker 4: Like any motherfucker gonna do. I got to the East,
Speaker 4: I fell in love with I fell in love with
Speaker 4: the East before I even got there. You know, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's the feelings, it's miltch, it's all love.
Speaker 3: But he grew up in the West.
Speaker 2: He came to the West and grew up out there
Speaker 2: in the town where where where we where we teach game,
Speaker 2: we're not teaching crypts and blends were teaching.
Speaker 1: And when I say grew up, I mean like your
Speaker 1: adolescence like that. He had no grew up. They like,
Speaker 1: he didn't grow up there. He grew up in different places,
Speaker 1: but his adolescens where he where he became a man,
Speaker 1: was on the west, was.
Speaker 2: On the west. He in the bay where we at,
Speaker 2: and he around, you know, he around the black panthers
Speaker 2: and and you know, yeah, so he around all of
Speaker 2: this shit. But he around uh sixty nine Ville, East Oakland,
Speaker 2: you know, all of the motherfucking the city where the
Speaker 2: panels started. Yeah, but you don't know how motherfucker talking
Speaker 2: what he's saying. You don't know where you're from.
Speaker 4: Even my La pineers come out there and be like,
Speaker 4: hold on, man, I ain't fucking with child nigga. How
Speaker 4: fuck I'm supposed to know that nigga got a thirty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars hit out on him and that's the motherfucking
Speaker 4: hit her.
Speaker 2: And we in the same motherfucking room. H you know,
Speaker 2: there's some real ship. And I'm sitting up here and
Speaker 2: telling her homie, He's like, cuts, get me out of here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, cause you straight, while I'm in here, they
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do nothing. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 2: spikes one. You know what I'm saying. These my niggas,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do not know where I'm in here,
Speaker 2: or they gonna tell me before they get in, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So because still just like, man,
Speaker 2: let me get the fun.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 2: I didn't blame, you know, So let's go there because
Speaker 2: it's bout you know what I'm saying, we're taking a
Speaker 2: shot for that the shadow. I like, I don't even
Speaker 2: know we're taking a shot for. But this fantastic mm
Speaker 2: hmmm that stretch since you mused it to your house?
Speaker 2: Was it stretch stretch stretch stretched from squad stretch.
Speaker 3: Live squad back in the day, So I knew stretch
Speaker 3: before I even knew new Pot really new stretch before
Speaker 3: before I knew pot, but Pock new stretch.
Speaker 4: And he like new stretched prior to you knowing stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we started talking. I'm like, yeah, I know stretch.
Speaker 2: How at your house?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: I had a GPS back in the days, not.
Speaker 2: This figure had navigation.
Speaker 3: I had I had a you know how you know,
Speaker 3: I had a fan club, like a literal fan back
Speaker 3: in the day. We would have all of this crazy
Speaker 3: ship had no po box your box fan club. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: but it got to my house from the p O
Speaker 3: bo o okay, okay, okay, yeah you superos you don't remember, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That first Did you ever see his first video? Man?
Speaker 2: It like it's like us and like that yeah heartless
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah, but he said that ship to me, man,
Speaker 2: I watched that ship a million times b heartless man,
Speaker 2: Stretch from Live Squad like I was tripping. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was that ship was dupe as fun and so
Speaker 3: you know when I when I started talking to Pack,
Speaker 3: I just brought it.
Speaker 4: I don't know how it came up, but he was
Speaker 4: I think he was talking about thug life or something,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, I know, I know, I
Speaker 4: know Stretch and Ship.
Speaker 2: He was like, you know Stretch. I said, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I talked to him and everything and shit on the phone.
Speaker 2: That's my nigga.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: How the fuck you know Stretch like, hey, we got
Speaker 4: mutual hallwies nigga already.
Speaker 2: Is what it is? Know him or you don't know.
Speaker 4: He's from New Jersey, Stretch from New Jersey. Stretch Stretches
Speaker 4: from New Jersey. Oh really yeah? And pod him in
Speaker 4: New Jersey?
Speaker 3: Oh what do trash? Probably through trash? Yeah yeah, probably
Speaker 3: through trash tracks are cool? Motherfucker too. Man, that's my guy. Man.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I be he being cool
Speaker 2: with me. I remember, you know, it's it's crazy to
Speaker 2: say the talk this ship, but.
Speaker 4: Remember that it's not the Mindrean the NiCoT fat burger. Yeah,
Speaker 4: come on, I come down into the to the butter
Speaker 4: Hotel where the bar is right there at the Nico
Speaker 4: Tratch is sitting there. I literally gotten a shootout brother
Speaker 4: the night before in front of the too short fucking studio,
Speaker 4: right I got bullet holes and ship in my coat,
Speaker 4: you know, wearing the motherfucker. I come down and see
Speaker 4: I come down the elevator, Bro, and Tratch sitting at
Speaker 4: the at the bar.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm tripping.
Speaker 4: When I come down the elevator, I'm still just on
Speaker 4: one like this motherfucker, I'm man and everything like man,
Speaker 4: this motherfucker sham Like I'm tripping, Like when I get
Speaker 4: back to the.
Speaker 2: Town, it's killings, ship killing some shit. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's the what these not twenty three year old me?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm.
Speaker 4: Tripping, like and Treck sitting at the bar and I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, hey, He's like, what's up, Spice.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting at the bar and he's like, you like,
Speaker 4: you can tell I'm I'm I'm tripping on something. He's like, man,
Speaker 4: you need a drink or something shit, And I'm like yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, or this, I said, Man, I said, look
Speaker 4: at this ship and I pulled you know, I pulled
Speaker 4: my my coat like this, and they got bullet hole
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 2: Lietle hole is it? You're like, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 4: I said, that's a bullet hole? Man, Oh bitch, you
Speaker 4: ass niggas. You're like, well, you know what, what's what's
Speaker 4: going on? And Ship, I'm like, man, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to shoot out. I'll tell him the whole thing. And
Speaker 4: ship and we sat there and got drunk his hell,
Speaker 4: and you know, he was trying to talk me, calm
Speaker 4: me down, He kept me, cooled me down, and Ship
Speaker 4: just having a conversation with my nigga, and he was
Speaker 4: just like saying, man, don't don't go back out to
Speaker 4: go back to Oakland tripping like that. Man, go doing
Speaker 4: that ship because you gotta you know, look where you at.
Speaker 4: You out here with me at the hotel and we
Speaker 4: at the Nico and you know, fucking that motherfucking TLC
Speaker 4: over there and packed us upstairs and you know, chill out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You you gotta good life, man,
Speaker 2: you know, don't telling me this ship And I'm like,
Speaker 2: they do your life away basically, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Something he taught you. It's my guy, bro.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He talked telling nigga some
Speaker 2: real ship when they need to be said. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I needed to hear that man, trech real. Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: talk about hard to Kill We Meta Man.
Speaker 2: I know he's.
Speaker 3: Dipped on it earlier like that you have a record
Speaker 3: of mathem man, but how did this actual record come about?
Speaker 2: Hard to Kill.
Speaker 3: And met the man is a hard person to get
Speaker 3: on the record. It's not a lot of people that
Speaker 3: say they got method Man on the It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: like like when you when you find your yo yo.
Speaker 2: Uh. Your fans could be anybody and the best fan
Speaker 2: is somebody who you a fan of. Pre Yeah. And
Speaker 2: when they.
Speaker 4: Submitted the record to Jive, I told John to sign
Speaker 4: them and give them the motherfucking money.
Speaker 2: And I know they talking about because who was on drive?
Speaker 4: It wasn't the whole w tang was there was there
Speaker 4: was They said them they CD and they was, you know, wow,
Speaker 4: shopping their music to you were there and they literally
Speaker 4: gave me the CD and was like, what do you
Speaker 4: should we should we sign these dudes.
Speaker 3: And they were shopping yeah wow, And I was like,
Speaker 3: what the Like I looked at him stupid, like what
Speaker 3: do you mean? Why are you asking me?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah? What do listen to that ship you signed?
Speaker 2: You crazy? Wait?
Speaker 3: We got to set this.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: You listened to the demo a Wu Tang clan going
Speaker 1: to drive? Yeah, and Jive is considering and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is obviously.
Speaker 2: Something you just sign. Know none of these mother do
Speaker 2: no knowing from you just heard skills Like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm just like this ship is dope, Like no, hell no, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah you should sign them. Yeah. It was like sho
Speaker 2: we sign yeah capital yeah? Fu Yeah how about the Fu? Yeah?
Speaker 2: On top of that, like yeah wow. And I don't
Speaker 2: know why didn't designed Like what are you talking? How
Speaker 2: are you sign? Damn? But do you remember to see
Speaker 2: those names? It was a situation. It wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 2: very wise. It wasn't very wise. Damn they're lucky. I
Speaker 2: can't remember they fucking days, you know, I was light
Speaker 2: in there? What who was everywhere?
Speaker 3: Lucky?
Speaker 2: I'm a little drunk right now. Whoever they are?
Speaker 3: A n R was okay, we spoke about strap on
Speaker 3: our side already, right, yeah, we spoke about that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, follow what my motherfucking strap. We speak on strap
Speaker 2: on the side, We didn't speak on trapping on the side.
Speaker 2: Strap on the side was it was like after the
Speaker 2: after some after some ship had happened, you know.
Speaker 4: Everything we well, no we we was on Jealous got
Speaker 4: Me strapped, and and and and all of that ship
Speaker 4: came from from from each other because Jealous Got Me
Speaker 4: Strapped came from one of the hummies getting jacked and
Speaker 4: he gave this ship up and they killed him. Anyway,
Speaker 4: So the theme for the funerals Jealous Got Me Strapped,
Speaker 4: Pack was on that, and I did Strap on the side,
Speaker 4: and then we did the video because the Pack was like,
Speaker 4: we need to do a video Jealous Got Me strapped.
Speaker 2: Joh, I wasn't with it for some fucking reason. We
Speaker 2: should have did a video of Jealous Got Me Strapped
Speaker 2: right around strap Job.
Speaker 3: So so Pack agreed to doing a video with Jealous
Speaker 3: copy strapped, and Job said no because of what budget
Speaker 3: reasons because they couldn't clear.
Speaker 2: Park, not because of budget reafs, but yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's the early park and they didn't really know. You know,
Speaker 2: what it was was who is going? Who was about
Speaker 2: to be bro? You know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 2: was just like, my nigga, don't, let's let's get this
Speaker 2: ship cracking. But you know, it's like they don't. It's
Speaker 2: like you don't listen to the machine. The artist is
Speaker 2: the motherfucker making the music that people paying him listen to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously he got an ear for some ship to say
Speaker 2: something or you know, whatever he said. You should take
Speaker 2: it into significance. You might be able to you know, ship.
Speaker 1: Did you ever consider yourself one of the more And
Speaker 1: I don't even like using what hardcore but more hardcore
Speaker 1: artists at that time, because I don't think I mean,
Speaker 1: there was artists, but you can see this against it
Speaker 1: right you were Yeah, That's what I mean though, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying you was pushing the envelope. You seem like
Speaker 1: the most realistic hardcore artist at that time.
Speaker 2: I just you know, I didn't. I literally didn't give
Speaker 2: a fuck. I was just like, I'm gonna say what
Speaker 2: we what we how we get down out here and
Speaker 2: and what it really is. But I'm I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep this ship to a minimum to where they don't
Speaker 2: really they can't siphon this ship out of thing really
Speaker 2: part of this ship, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a spit it for real though, and and
Speaker 2: and and so my, my, My whole twoint wasn't to
Speaker 2: go platinum and you know, and do a radio song.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was it was more either uh, politically driven or
Speaker 4: you know all you lists rebel type, you know, because
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about the street three strikes laws
Speaker 4: and ship.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm on these street.
Speaker 4: I was out there, so I'm it's fucked up and
Speaker 4: I've seen fucked up ship happening. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm if if I gotta if I can have these
Speaker 4: people listening, if they're listening, and I'm a seller, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm I'm finna say this ship. If they listening, I'm
Speaker 4: finna say, you know, talk about this these niggas, you know,
Speaker 4: put this ship out here and say, hey, sometimes niggas
Speaker 4: be riding around here shooting and the little girl gets
Speaker 4: shot in the motherfucking head and these dumb ass niggas
Speaker 4: riding around here thinking that it's cool. Like I gotta
Speaker 4: put that out there, so motherfuckers recognize that we have
Speaker 4: to be mediators just against the rap ship. You gotta
Speaker 4: tag on your back is against the rapper. That's what's
Speaker 4: gonna be there. That's that's that's what it is. But
Speaker 4: you gotta your function in this in this game is
Speaker 4: sometimes you gotta mediate ship. You gotta come between the
Speaker 4: the streets and the motherfucking the industry. You gotta go
Speaker 4: over here and Hiller at the streets and be like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 4: can't just go over there and get down like that
Speaker 4: brom You know what I'm saying. I'm in l a
Speaker 4: motherfucking oh she crib here the nigga up. You know,
Speaker 4: he like, nigga needs you to go.
Speaker 2: He tell you, mother fuckings you and shin anybody, just
Speaker 2: you tell these motherfuckings me ain't throwing racket snoop trail, niggah.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm like, you know, he's telling me that
Speaker 2: some some it's some blood throwing rock sets, snoo trailer
Speaker 2: and ship, you know what I'm saying. So it's back
Speaker 2: in the days, yeah, okay, And he's telling me to
Speaker 2: go down there and talk to him and go to
Speaker 2: the young bloods. Yeah, to some bloods. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And it's a little bane man.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't go down those politics.
Speaker 2: You want me to go down there and tell his
Speaker 2: nigga he said, he he gonna listen you nigga. Don't listen.
Speaker 2: They don't fucking listen to me.
Speaker 1: They gonna lit you tee.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 2: Ain't nigga, you fuck you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 2: throwing rocks at snow chouther les. Let me go fucking
Speaker 2: say something. Damn they came. I go down there and ship.
Speaker 2: They sit down there, they don't share. They shive down.
Speaker 2: I can tell the nigga sherved out and ship. They like,
Speaker 2: you know, one nigga walk up and he's like, damn, blood,
Speaker 2: you look like spice one blood. And I'm like, I
Speaker 2: am like spice one. Nigga.
Speaker 3: I said, it is it's me one nigga. I said, hey,
Speaker 3: it's me. You know what I'm saying. He said, and
Speaker 3: then he walked back and he said, hey, that nigga
Speaker 3: said he's spiced one blood. And the other nigga said,
Speaker 3: he come up closer. He likes spice one.
Speaker 4: But that's him nigga. They don't call the police. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm over here with y'all. Call the police. They they
Speaker 4: said they was throwing rocks at snoop trailer or bottles
Speaker 4: or something.
Speaker 3: What the fuck. But they didn't call the police. And
Speaker 3: I'm over here to just say, hey, man, motherfucker, they
Speaker 3: call the police.
Speaker 2: The fun out here? Can we leave? Now? Can we go?
Speaker 4: We go up the street, fire up. I said, watch
Speaker 4: watch this motherfucker pull up. Papa rolled up. We over
Speaker 4: there like there. I told you was h.
Speaker 2: You know, I looked thought for y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, but that that type of ship, even when Pack
Speaker 4: was doing the ship with in Milwaukee with the with
Speaker 4: the GDS that that day, that ship was crazy. Like
Speaker 4: I guess a seven year old vice lord shot a
Speaker 4: eight year old gangs to disciple this bike back in
Speaker 4: the day at the show. And Pack was mad like
Speaker 4: it was his ins or something. You know, he was
Speaker 4: hot and the niggas mad. He just ran past me
Speaker 4: and he tapped me on the shoulder. Hey, Lourie, the
Speaker 4: nigga tapped me on the shoulder.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: He ran past and he tapped me on the shoulder
Speaker 2: and he said, let's go. Come on. I said, you
Speaker 2: finish go record. I said, you finish, go perform. He said,
Speaker 2: I'm finna go fight. I'm gonna go fight. My dumb
Speaker 2: ass pulled out the banger.
Speaker 4: He grabbed a chair I was sitting on and walked
Speaker 4: out behind him and Ship like, okay, let's go fight,
Speaker 4: let's go.
Speaker 2: I got a chair in a glock. Nigga.
Speaker 3: This nigga is screaming out, fuck y'all. Niggas, y'all, some
Speaker 3: bitch ass niggas, this and that and y'all.
Speaker 2: Litle eight year old vice little killer Howard went killing
Speaker 2: seven year old against disciple of Howard Ship in Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what are you doing? Like y'all,
Speaker 2: we're gonna die. We're gonna die tonight, excuse me not
Speaker 2: to night.
Speaker 5: And you know.
Speaker 2: That shows you popcard though. Man, Yeah, he was mad
Speaker 2: as fuck, but that that they try to kill us,
Speaker 2: try to kill a motherfucker.
Speaker 4: But they felt us at the end. On the end,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We was ready to doctor
Speaker 4: that ship. They kind of just let it go, like okay,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, we was gonna kill y'all, but
Speaker 4: we are you right, you kind of right. We shouldn't
Speaker 4: let that happen, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you know when this is, this is the I feel
Speaker 4: that as a gangster rap artist, this is the type
Speaker 4: of ship that you you and you have you do.
Speaker 2: You got to you getting them, you.
Speaker 4: Mediating Chris ship between clips and Crypts and Bloods and
Speaker 4: whoever respect your music and you do gangster raps. So
Speaker 4: all of the gangsters you they mostly respect your ship
Speaker 4: from the from the uh motherfucking your cousa all the
Speaker 4: way to the to the mafia, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: to the to the to the to the Mexican mafia,
Speaker 4: all of that ship. Like and I know this from
Speaker 4: I'm not just talking. I know this from experience. I've
Speaker 4: been there. I've been in the in the county. Like
Speaker 4: I said, uh, essay, it's like, oh, we know it
Speaker 4: was you. We thought it was you, so as we
Speaker 4: should have jumped your ass mother.
Speaker 2: Cocker because you was black. You said, yeah that and.
Speaker 4: Because they thought I was opposer, because you know, in
Speaker 4: l A is back then, it's different now, back in
Speaker 4: l A back then, you couldn't just be no nigga
Speaker 4: up in there with you know like that, because you
Speaker 4: might get jumped.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That the Mexicans might jump you.
Speaker 2: The fucking white boys might.
Speaker 4: Don't matter who you are, you're sitting somewhere by yourself,
Speaker 4: you might get jumped, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And they just realized it was me and was like, oh, ship, okay,
Speaker 2: I got I got my past, like you know, all
Speaker 2: my niggas.
Speaker 4: Saying, y'all. The only reason, y'all, I'm sorry to say this,
Speaker 4: but the reason y'all, motherfuckers any is probably y'all listening
Speaker 4: to my ship. You're crazy motherfuckers. But you know it's
Speaker 4: it's all love. You know, I done ran up on it.
Speaker 4: You ever ran up on some motherfuckings some youngsters and
Speaker 4: ship and then y'all ready to get down and they
Speaker 4: look at you in the face.
Speaker 2: And back up.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, like hell no, my uncle will fucking kill me.
Speaker 4: My uncle will kill my ass if I fight you
Speaker 4: right now, nigga, cool right, spice, what's up?
Speaker 2: Man? It's good, It's cool. You know.
Speaker 4: That's that's how you know when you got love and
Speaker 4: respect on the streets, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: because you because you don't fuck with O G S
Speaker 4: and they o gs out there now and they nephews
Speaker 4: and sons is out there. They're running up on you, yep,
Speaker 4: and they gonna fuck their nephews. The son's up or
Speaker 4: it's gonna be bad, bad day they do, they do
Speaker 4: the wrong. I remember, motherfucking uh, motherfucker. I left my
Speaker 4: ship office told thing because I was parked in the
Speaker 4: day too long. I came out and ship. He was like,
Speaker 4: my uncle will kill me.
Speaker 2: I gotta let your ship down. I said, who is
Speaker 2: your uncle? He told me was uncle? Well? I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: he'll fuck you up. Down Well, that my ship that
Speaker 2: I know your uncle is. Let it my ship down.
Speaker 4: You know, let's talk about sugar Happy. You remember that ship, Hud.
Speaker 4: That was the ship I we recorded that when I
Speaker 4: was when I was out there. That was around when
Speaker 4: it was ninety nine. That's the other one of a
Speaker 4: seven proof type ship. You know, I'm talking about guns.
Speaker 4: And I got the females in there singing the hook
Speaker 4: and ship. You know, that's my style, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I like doing ship like that. I got
Speaker 4: triggered happy. I got one called candy Well, making females
Speaker 4: sound like people and making chocolate sound like females and
Speaker 4: ship like that. That's a that's a fly ship, like
Speaker 4: some pem ship on some pimp ship. You know I'm talking,
Speaker 4: but you know, it's just a fun style for me
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: And and and and I feel like I do it
Speaker 2: well and I can get motherfuckers to listen when I
Speaker 2: do this ship. So it's all about marketing that ship. Though.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You gotta have your own ship, your own fucking section
Speaker 4: where you get down. That's how you get down, That's
Speaker 4: what you do. You only gonna get my CD. You
Speaker 4: don't donn get this coming out of my CD. You
Speaker 4: want to get the study of rap.
Speaker 2: You don't wanna get this type of ship coming from
Speaker 2: my ship anybody else? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Where did that come from? The Sutter Rapper?
Speaker 2: I was, Are you mad at mumbo Rapper? No, it's
Speaker 2: not the same. Well, yeah, mumbo rapp is different because
Speaker 2: it's a wrap come from fund rap. I think I
Speaker 2: think I think that you you you.
Speaker 3: You visited all these motherfuckers, bro, I don't think it's
Speaker 3: I think that they uh.
Speaker 2: The stutter wrap. I did that because I didn't want
Speaker 2: to cast like a certain days yourself.
Speaker 4: Let me let me if I don't if I just
Speaker 4: say this word twice and make it captain him in
Speaker 4: this brand with the you know, instead of captain his motherfucking.
Speaker 2: Brain with R nine. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: he got like that.
Speaker 3: It was like, was that the four do effects?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I never thought of now, but he's
Speaker 1: very similar in style now.
Speaker 2: He was around that around at the same time, all
Speaker 2: of it, getting all of that ship. It was that's
Speaker 2: because that's what was crazy. Yeah, not to take anything
Speaker 2: away from them when I was going getting a.
Speaker 3: Gangst a gangsty. When I was doing that ship, the
Speaker 3: h g DS, gags and Disciples love that. It's you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, that's that's their song.
Speaker 3: Like I go to fucking okay the song cant get it,
Speaker 3: get that gangs stuff. Can't get it, get that gangs stuff,
Speaker 3: ticking that fun, can't gt get it, get it, get it, get.
Speaker 4: A gangs stuff, you know, because they gangst us, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But you know it's it's it's
Speaker 4: always like I'm saying, like, sometimes you had to get
Speaker 4: in the middle of that ship and that ship was not.
Speaker 2: Wen't healthy at all. It's not healthy, you know, it's
Speaker 2: really it's really not healthy. You know.
Speaker 4: But when when you know, when you know, uh what
Speaker 4: you gotta do and you gotta slide some game to
Speaker 4: some niggas, then you just got a slide game to
Speaker 4: some niggas and help they listen, you know, And and
Speaker 4: that's the bottom line, you know. Uh, each one teach one,
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's hard to say when the motherfucker
Speaker 4: the game is to be so not told.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool, but but each one teach one. I
Speaker 2: think it a little be a little bit better so
Speaker 2: we can all get money around this motherfucker. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm coming out of him? See that.
Speaker 3: Everybody. Everybody's got pimp in everybody from that spiel is there.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about D Boys got love for me?
Speaker 3: Beat you in my brother, Faudy Water. Well, you know
Speaker 3: how did this record come about? And did D Boys
Speaker 3: have love for Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well yeah they did. That's that's what that was the
Speaker 2: cool shit about it because they they didn't even invest.
Speaker 2: You know, niggas investor invest in your projects. Your ship
Speaker 2: was hot, but I walk up to it, motherfucker, We
Speaker 2: hella dope like nigga listen to this and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some money into that. Wow, mhm street nigga,
Speaker 2: Yeah all the time, film more slim, yeah, like type
Speaker 2: and they but they but they you know, if they
Speaker 2: if they making money selling dope and they realized they
Speaker 2: could sell a whole different type of dope, whole different
Speaker 2: things and you happen to be the dope and they
Speaker 2: can do this without getting raided. Shit, why the fuck not?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: I know, motherfucker put some money into my first shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Hell yeah, you know, why
Speaker 2: the fuck not?
Speaker 1: Nigga?
Speaker 2: Who the fuck want to sit there and sell dope
Speaker 2: for the rest of their life? I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: you can get down or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I mean, shit, who ain't. It's hey, you got
Speaker 2: things all that over? Kay? Hell no, who want them problems?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Unless the nigga built for it,
Speaker 2: built for that shit and don't plan on living long
Speaker 2: or you know, having this motherfucking freedom long and shit,
Speaker 2: or just dealing with this ship for the rest of
Speaker 2: his life, because that's what's gonna happen. You know, if
Speaker 2: you want when you get older, and want piece in
Speaker 2: your life. It's one thing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Fuck that I'm older than I want piece in my life,
Speaker 2: make my music.
Speaker 4: Get my money, you know. But now you know you
Speaker 4: gotta still come with hot ship. But I feel I'm
Speaker 4: there though even on this new album, I'm there.
Speaker 3: But the question how did that come good forty together?
Speaker 2: How did it come about? Well, I think I think
Speaker 2: who was that.
Speaker 3: Same, same fucking same student, because that's a wow news.
Speaker 3: It was so great back then, same same place, same place.
Speaker 2: I may pack me and forty at the at the
Speaker 2: end of my neighborhood video, me and forty was talking
Speaker 2: about yeah, same video at the video, same video, shoot y'all,
Speaker 2: and well, I knew forty, but.
Speaker 4: That's what we was talking about doing it that because
Speaker 4: he was dealing When we were surrounding the garbage can
Speaker 4: all that ships around it.
Speaker 2: We was talking about doing it there there, like yeah,
Speaker 2: we need to do that, do some ship because the
Speaker 2: last one he had only talking on Sonewest when I
Speaker 2: was forty forty he was only talking on it, so
Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, it was it was America's nightmare. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: like uh uh did you get out of line, you
Speaker 2: got a chopping reach into my drugs and pull out
Speaker 2: my strap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that ship was I was he talking on on
Speaker 3: that one while we see featured fully featured on that.
Speaker 4: Because I I just I just wanted to. I just
Speaker 4: wanted to. I just wanted him to talk that. I
Speaker 4: just wanted him to talk that. You know, he could
Speaker 4: wrap it, you know cool. I just wanted to talk
Speaker 4: that ship so bad, like talk that ship, talk that
Speaker 4: ship about yeah, I'm just the game by the say
Speaker 4: all that that ship.
Speaker 2: You know. I wanted him to.
Speaker 3: Say that ship so bad like going you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I wanted him to talk like that bro, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm the Game. Has some motherfucking from the like speak
Speaker 3: that ship, say that forty.
Speaker 2: That ship was hello, dumbe to me when he said
Speaker 2: that ship like you ain't even got a rap.
Speaker 4: Just talk and you a chilling then, you know, Hopefully
Speaker 4: Hopefully was feeling no kind of way about it, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But I just you know, I
Speaker 4: was a fan, and I wanted him to do every
Speaker 4: I wanted to catch him doing everything, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I didn't want to have to pay
Speaker 4: him for talking and rapping and Ship. I didn't have enough,
Speaker 4: no money for it. But I want him to do both.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Really, But you know Ship I was. I was a
Speaker 2: fan back in the day. Ship.
Speaker 3: I want him to talk on the air rap Ship.
Speaker 3: So I got add But mc hammer came out. He
Speaker 3: from your town. He might be a gangster.
Speaker 2: Oh we heard might he he did some cap. We
Speaker 2: heard his gangster.
Speaker 3: But the world is perceiving this man as a different individual.
Speaker 3: And hip hop, they're laughing at their.
Speaker 2: The world just hip hop. Well, because the world loved them.
Speaker 3: At the people feel at the bed at this time,
Speaker 3: I'm not even asking you. I'm asking you to ask
Speaker 3: the answer for your whole It's a lot of lambs
Speaker 3: out there that don't understand the game. Okay, let's take
Speaker 3: a shot first, real quick. Yeah, well, my shot is
Speaker 3: mad bigger than you.
Speaker 1: I imagine the hustling side of the bay with respect, however,
Speaker 1: like it was getting money.
Speaker 2: Like if you was a real motherfucker, if you really
Speaker 2: got down like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, tell us, tell us describe what happened
Speaker 3: because Hammer is killing.
Speaker 4: Don't want everybody to know anyway, You're kind of kind
Speaker 4: of trying to, you know, disguise that ship. You know,
Speaker 4: if you really get down like that, you you would
Speaker 4: really get down like that, you really kind of trying
Speaker 4: to keep it on a slender you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: On the under like as far as who Hammer was,
Speaker 4: where he came from, Like the nigga got clown from
Speaker 4: the He's a real Bay nigga. He's a real reputable
Speaker 4: factor in the bad as far as in Oakland. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, He's reptible as far as you know,
Speaker 4: don't fuck with him and his people like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like they like real not to fuck,
Speaker 4: not to be fucked.
Speaker 2: With boys like for real, for real? I heard that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like so you know anybody, but but but real.
Speaker 4: It just show you how real a nigga is. He
Speaker 4: trying to promote the brighter side of life. And you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I stood that. I understood that,
Speaker 4: Like okay.
Speaker 3: Man, you know because this ship outside don't Yeah they
Speaker 3: don't know, they don't. But he's not a punk. That's
Speaker 3: that's the easier way to explain it.
Speaker 2: All The nigga got people, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: he got he can make movies. He's strategic with this move.
Speaker 2: He a real bay nigga. He a real you know,
Speaker 2: like real, no no nonsense dude, Like a real, real
Speaker 2: stand up type guy.
Speaker 4: Like motherfucking you see ship in black and white. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like but he but at the
Speaker 4: same time, he know how to move. He trying to
Speaker 4: you know, he's trying to move. Uh, he don't want
Speaker 4: to be on the radar like that like that, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Any any smart motherfucker, I ain't
Speaker 4: tryna be on a radar like that like that. My
Speaker 4: shit more, I don't give a fuck. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't have no whole card. Nobody does. But not
Speaker 2: saying he do or whatever I don't. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to hide shit like I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 2: shit real. You know what I'm saying, Like from the
Speaker 2: drummer Cus, I'm gonna say what the fuck I want
Speaker 2: to say is but you know certain things I won't do,
Speaker 2: Like I won't I'm not finna come out on camera
Speaker 2: with no big ass motherfucking shotgun and AK forty seven
Speaker 2: and shit, because I'm a motherfucking felon. I'm a real, real,
Speaker 2: real guy. I don't I can't be seeing on camera
Speaker 2: with no motherfucking guns and ship niggas, y'all crazy. I try,
Speaker 2: Spice one. You know certain things you can't continue. There's
Speaker 2: certain shits you can't do when you're in a certain
Speaker 2: position in life, or you got more to lose than
Speaker 2: the average motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. You can't
Speaker 2: just sit there and and disrespect the blessings God gave you,
Speaker 2: a disrespect your position and ship. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: you gotta hout of that ship nigga and get money
Speaker 2: and live out your life. When you get this age
Speaker 2: that you know, uh fifty, you get in your fifties,
Speaker 2: I'm my fifties. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: half a honey nigga. You know what I'm saying. Hell,
Speaker 2: you got still rockets. You know you gotta.
Speaker 4: You gotta learn to enjoy life, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Because none of us learn to enjoy life.
Speaker 2: And the most the most important thing to all of
Speaker 2: this ship is spending time with people that you love
Speaker 2: and that love you. In your family. That's the most
Speaker 2: important thing in life, because when they gone, they gone. Bro,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. You spend much as much time as you
Speaker 2: can with people that you love or that love you
Speaker 2: and you know they love you in your life. That's
Speaker 2: what you do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Without having the number one single, hot single, all of
Speaker 4: that ship, that's cool. But you know, the most important
Speaker 4: thing to me is spending time with people with loving
Speaker 4: because we don't know how long any of us gonna
Speaker 4: be here.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker's dropping like flies. You know what I'm saying. Real
Speaker 2: s are we taking a shot for that? Yes?
Speaker 3: Not for dying?
Speaker 2: Live it. He talked about people that I know, I
Speaker 2: know live its thanks Sonny.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, I haven't seen Jamie for you a
Speaker 3: shot at all.
Speaker 2: My shots. You don't trust Jamie friend.
Speaker 4: She's probably over be like that. Nigga twisted it. That's
Speaker 4: some Bay Area ship. When I they can tell you
Speaker 4: he twisted toasted.
Speaker 2: We don't use that air drink. Chance he twisted you
Speaker 2: toast it right now? You toasted?
Speaker 3: Yes, he's taking the that's that's that's a picture.
Speaker 2: That's some forty motherfucking lango slang out gonna be twisted.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Listen, me and E forty got a secret album somewhere.
Speaker 3: Do you really like it's like four records.
Speaker 2: We gotta put it out when we do the nickname name,
Speaker 2: that's called the EP. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, by the way, I've never seen this before in
Speaker 3: my life. He forty came to my studio and laid
Speaker 3: on his stomach, started writing around.
Speaker 2: Colorazi.
Speaker 3: You gotta stop?
Speaker 2: Was he Colorazo? So he came to my student.
Speaker 3: This is by the way, this is a't put his
Speaker 3: legs up like this behind him.
Speaker 1: Right browning yourself talking for the right round.
Speaker 3: He laid on his stomach and I was, we don't
Speaker 3: really pay our cleaning ladies, like you know what I
Speaker 3: mean your I was like, I was really being honest.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know our cleaning ladies in New York.
Speaker 3: This is in the hood Lab. Oh that was the
Speaker 3: dirtiest place.
Speaker 2: That's Jersey.
Speaker 1: But by the way, it's in the richest place in
Speaker 1: New York, the dirty But I wanted to be called
Speaker 1: the hood Lab. I wanted to own the cockroa stust.
Speaker 2: It's going to ball. But right though, he's he's right
Speaker 2: st there one night listening dust many this is the
Speaker 2: richest place of Manhattan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but me, in my mind, I was like, I
Speaker 3: want to make the dirtiest music ever. So if I
Speaker 3: could do that, I don't want I want to. I
Speaker 3: want to rent. Oh why you're you really saying this? Now?
Speaker 2: You really?
Speaker 1: You really did this consciously. You made it look like
Speaker 1: a ship hole. Yeah, man, I wish you would have
Speaker 1: told me when I went, hold.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is D and D D and D is
Speaker 2: a ship? Hold a good excess? Yes?
Speaker 3: Correct, I agree with you totality. But it was on
Speaker 3: forty It was on forty seven. I had property on
Speaker 3: thirty second and Madison one of the only black person
Speaker 3: that had a property. And you know what I did,
Speaker 3: I said, I want to I don't want it to
Speaker 3: resemble that because they had baseline, they had everything. So
Speaker 3: you know, mint Bleak is why myth bleak with me
Speaker 3: is school to this day, A couple of other artists
Speaker 3: to change. They would come and they would come hang
Speaker 3: with me and I were in waste them and put
Speaker 3: them up. Yeah, the ship was real, Like this ship
Speaker 3: was real because I was on Manhattan. Now, if they
Speaker 3: would have ever those an rs ever came to see
Speaker 3: how we were living.
Speaker 2: She was crazy No, no, no, it's Chinese. It's saying
Speaker 2: with pieces.
Speaker 3: There's no mister chap.
Speaker 2: There was no cleaning person.
Speaker 3: Like by the way, you had the fight for your bottle,
Speaker 3: look at at you. But by the way, some of
Speaker 3: the best of the best music ever produced out of there.
Speaker 2: No amazing.
Speaker 3: It's amazing because it was just like and the pictures
Speaker 3: if you see it in the chemistry was amazing.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we always uh credit Crazy Hood
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 3: Of Drink Champs, but it actually started the hood Lab,
Speaker 3: which is the Hoodlabe. The environment was was the hood Lab,
Speaker 3: and then you know crazy Hood. We went, uh, what's
Speaker 3: the name of insterdo Crazyhood, crazy Hood, crazy Hood. Our
Speaker 3: name was the.
Speaker 2: Hood Laugh and his name was crazy crazy Laugh.
Speaker 3: And then if you put us both together, that's what
Speaker 3: makes dream Champs, like right right right, Okay, weird combination.
Speaker 2: But what it's this ship though, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying this is he just having super organic naturally Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just getting drunk again, sucked up when you can't beat
Speaker 1: that with the best and loving hip hop.
Speaker 2: That was that was.
Speaker 3: Loving hip hop? What love and hip loving?
Speaker 2: You want to be a little bit hip hop, he
Speaker 2: said love.
Speaker 8: Going to Scott mad Now listen, we love that spoke
Speaker 8: your love and I did you fuck me up and
Speaker 8: put me in anyways?
Speaker 3: You liked it.
Speaker 2: Like I never put like like you know, like niggas
Speaker 2: like like me in Short and and ship the free
Speaker 2: on love.
Speaker 3: You should be loving hip hop.
Speaker 4: That's what the West like, like my slugging me and
Speaker 4: me and too Short sluggan already like Ain't no love Bitch, Like.
Speaker 2: I think that would be the I would like to
Speaker 2: produce that show. Ain't no Love Bitch. I was like that.
Speaker 3: You you hear the bulletproofess the whole time. You know
Speaker 3: what it's like love bitch, which is like like, is
Speaker 3: this is like the love of like the Bachelor?
Speaker 2: You know the Bachelor?
Speaker 3: You you take it right? What the fuck?
Speaker 2: It sounded weird though? You sweet? That's right. Listen. I
Speaker 2: got him, you got it. I got him, So I
Speaker 2: don't know what that got him?
Speaker 3: You got him. You gotta lady, what you got what
Speaker 3: I got him?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You got them? Then, damn God, damn, I gotta
Speaker 2: I gotta got it. I gotta I gotta man, I
Speaker 2: got a girl. You gotta here.
Speaker 3: You gotta go from now you gotta you gotta girl,
Speaker 3: we gotta have I gotta you gotta girl. Have somebody
Speaker 3: got your back man like this like I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: you win tonight. Nothing to go back, you know, God,
Speaker 3: so God, you got you got a girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta you know, you gotta have somebody have
Speaker 2: your back, and I respect that.
Speaker 4: You gotta have somebody, man. You can't just be sitting
Speaker 4: out here naked man with something depending on where you
Speaker 4: are naked.
Speaker 3: You know, we already talked about in my neighborhoods were
Speaker 3: tomorrow dumbling them in the ditches.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that that came from the shootout.
Speaker 3: That came from the from the shootout there, huh supposed
Speaker 3: to access al ready. Yeah, that came from when I
Speaker 3: you know, when I told when I was talking to Hutting,
Speaker 3: that was just that like came out of that and
Speaker 3: ship like like dumping in the dishes like crazy.
Speaker 2: I was. You know, it was a lot of gangster
Speaker 2: ship going on back then.
Speaker 4: You know, Nigga had to kind of like you know,
Speaker 4: like like motherfuckers know back then, Bruh, I had to
Speaker 4: you know, pull out the banger a few times, like
Speaker 4: I ain't Nigga you know, I'm trying to be Spiced One,
Speaker 4: my nigga, but I was, I will don't make me
Speaker 4: have to, like know, like your ass up out here, myga,
Speaker 4: trying to be Spice one.
Speaker 2: Could I just be a rapper? But you're trying to
Speaker 2: make me get down like that though.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to be drugged back into
Speaker 4: the motherfucking streets like that, but I'm trying, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's what dumping them in dishes
Speaker 4: was about, Like, you know, niggas trying to pull me
Speaker 4: back down into the hole like that. Now that I
Speaker 4: got to the point to where I can do shows
Speaker 4: in Japan and in Europe and England and shit, and
Speaker 4: I got fans that all over the world, but your
Speaker 4: niggas want to make me come back down here and
Speaker 4: blow y'all motherfucking brains out, which is easy though, two
Speaker 4: pounds of pressure with the right bangard, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like why so why can't just be me?
Speaker 2: Why can't just go be Spice one? Why y'all pulling
Speaker 2: me down to the point to where you know, I
Speaker 2: got a murder of motherfucker approved to you niggas that
Speaker 2: I'm hard fuck out of here, Nigga. I got fans
Speaker 2: in Japan good, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 2: that's the bumping them and ditches was about, like good Germany.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do all that. Like
Speaker 2: the game pulled me out of that. So now, uh,
Speaker 2: basically I can do that if I if I want to.
Speaker 2: But Ship, I'm trying to go back to Japan. The
Speaker 2: first three roads was Japanese females doing this Ship. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to go back to that. Like is y'all talking
Speaker 2: about I'm good on all trying to be I'm cool,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm you know, but you
Speaker 2: don't like taking a shot that. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's take a shot for that, man, real spig because
Speaker 2: because because you don't you don't know, you don't know
Speaker 2: who you who you are, and to you leave the
Speaker 2: country goddamn ridiculous. One thing I want to say is
Speaker 2: the American Negro.
Speaker 4: Is everywhere, like we pop out, you know, I go
Speaker 4: to different countries, I see you know, I see motherfuckers,
Speaker 4: and Ship, I'm like, hey, man, what's popping with the
Speaker 4: pippy you know yeah, yea dad is you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying?
Speaker 2: What is it? You know what I'm saying. Let him
Speaker 2: know where I'm from just by my lingo. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that if they're from New York or
Speaker 2: wherever the fuck they're from, they gonna be like he's
Speaker 2: from the Bay Area. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's cool when you go out the
Speaker 4: country because you don't you know, that's when they know
Speaker 4: who when you know who you are.
Speaker 2: Because people keep going. I never thought a million years
Speaker 2: that I could go to Germany and pack the house
Speaker 2: like that. But when you out the country, do you
Speaker 2: feel more part of the country when you leave?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: like the culture, like when you leave, because I always
Speaker 1: tell people the number one export I think of America
Speaker 1: as hip hop.
Speaker 2: Right to the world. Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think the United States should
Speaker 1: cherish hip hop culture as literally the number one influencing
Speaker 1: culture in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think it's done. They've done justice by.
Speaker 2: It, probably right.
Speaker 3: But do you feel when you go out of town
Speaker 3: that you were treated as such.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's different when you leave the country. Like
Speaker 4: I never I didn't think that. Man, in a million years,
Speaker 4: I never would have thought.
Speaker 2: Because when the dude booked the venue, when he booked
Speaker 2: the venue in in Germany that held three or four
Speaker 2: thousand people for me, and I had, you know, and
Speaker 2: and and you know what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: Uh they got bussed. You know, my face on the
Speaker 4: side of the bus. They got the billboards up everything.
Speaker 4: And I'm in Germany and I'm like, this is crazy,
Speaker 4: like and and and I go and I'm thinking, and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking the promoter here somewhere.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking a promoter gonna lose money. And ship I'm fine, yeah,
Speaker 2: google law or whatever. And trust me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: promoter gonna lose money. I'm feeling bad for the promoter,
Speaker 2: like he FeelA lose money. I get there, line around
Speaker 2: the corner.
Speaker 3: You got, I get the deposit.
Speaker 2: I'm good. Yeah, I was cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm paid and the ship and everything like talk about
Speaker 2: I'm feelna lose money. This is fucked up and this
Speaker 2: is bad. I get there, it's packed, man, lining around
Speaker 2: the corner and the people that the line around the corner,
Speaker 2: they had to cut them off. They couldn't let them
Speaker 2: in no more. It was over, you know. And I
Speaker 2: get to the show and I'm like, and that's when
Speaker 2: I started doing the Michael you know, I do do
Speaker 2: the show and I do to Michael Jackson ship and
Speaker 2: ain't fucking screaming and ship, and you know, it was crazy,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, then I
Speaker 2: come back to America and I walk through Walmart and
Speaker 2: ships like nobody, nobody knows, nobody knows, like beautiful.
Speaker 3: I just want to stop the average motherfucker, you know,
Speaker 3: I just just show him fucking Germany with the crowd. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well job screaming loud, just screaming, just I couldn't stop.
Speaker 3: I had to stop rapping for them to spot to
Speaker 3: stop screaming the ship so loud with the ship like
Speaker 3: shout out to Germany. They was on the ship, they
Speaker 3: knew what it was. Many, they had fun. They came
Speaker 3: to the show and party, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And that's as long as I know they're doing that,
Speaker 3: that my job is fucking done. Listen, my man, my brother,
Speaker 3: let me just tell you something, man. I said that earlier,
Speaker 3: but I want to say it again. We started this
Speaker 3: show me and my good friend right here. Everyone calls
Speaker 3: him efforing sometimes sometimes he doesn't correct them. Never it
Speaker 3: hurts me.
Speaker 2: His name is e.
Speaker 3: It kind of dot. I don't know, but it's okay.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about you talking about me.
Speaker 2: No Dot.
Speaker 3: And then they like and I'm like, it cringes me.
Speaker 3: But my brothers, my friend, whatever else.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to get gone like that.
Speaker 3: But when we started this show, we sat down and
Speaker 3: we pinpointed people that we wanted to praise. We pinpointed
Speaker 3: people that we wanted to like make sure that their
Speaker 3: legacy and their stamp on earth meant something to not us,
Speaker 3: our staff, our audience, and just people that's affiliated with us.
Speaker 3: When I tell you you're top ten, from the beginning,
Speaker 3: we want we understood your legacy, We understood how much
Speaker 3: you meant to hip hop.
Speaker 2: You understand how much you meant to us.
Speaker 3: We've been trying to I know this frequency has not
Speaker 3: connected quite some time, but connected now.
Speaker 2: We believe in God.
Speaker 3: No matter what god name is, we believe that it's
Speaker 3: a higher power that exists and we want to tell you, man,
Speaker 3: thank you man for being who you are, thank you
Speaker 3: for continuing to do what you do, and thank you
Speaker 3: for saying something that you said earlier. He was like,
Speaker 3: I'm just a pure hip hop artist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. I know hip hop. That's it.
Speaker 2: You put two turned tables in front of me. I
Speaker 2: know what to do with it. Makes you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I got breakdown some trophies and shit, wow, like I'm
Speaker 4: real hip hop. I'm hip hop, bro, I got breakdancing
Speaker 4: trophies and metals from winning breakdancing contests and ship and
Speaker 4: all of it.
Speaker 1: More.
Speaker 2: It ain't just you know, selling dope, gangster ship and
Speaker 2: all of that. I'm hip hop. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, you know you hip hop, but as a person
Speaker 3: that you know, I told you this when I first
Speaker 3: met you'ma I'm gonna reiterate this. You know in a
Speaker 3: lot of ways, a lot of things that you guys.
Speaker 3: If you guys didn't do it, I wouldn't exist, which
Speaker 3: means that this show wouldn't exist. Se're the godfather of
Speaker 3: a lot. And I just want to tell you man,
Speaker 3: you're my homie.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is your this is your day,
Speaker 3: this is your flowers, and we really really, really really
Speaker 3: really appreciate you coming down seeing us, because me and
Speaker 3: this motherfucker right here, like I might be major labeled,
Speaker 3: he might be independent, but when we put ourselves together
Speaker 3: with hip hop, damn, they don't got nothing to do
Speaker 3: with his preference or my preference. It got everything to
Speaker 3: do with our love for hip hop and daylight. Today,
Speaker 3: we all woke up out of bed early because we
Speaker 3: knew we were just going to salute the great, the legendary,
Speaker 3: alive motherfucker fift. I want you to know because me
Speaker 3: and you has been homies for for years. But let
Speaker 3: me just say something. The fact that we're homies does
Speaker 3: not dumb down the fact that I'm a fan, the
Speaker 3: fact that we're a fan, the fact that we wanted
Speaker 3: to give your flowers. So we're gonna take a couple
Speaker 3: of pictures. You do a couple of drops, and let's
Speaker 3: do more shot. Jam let's wrap it up.
Speaker 2: I'll take this the last shot, and she gave me the.
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