1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio plus mobile app and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash. And I'm Karen Moscow 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and this update is brought to you by Mark's Penneth 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: l LP, ranked among the top three forensic accounting firms 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: in New York by the New York Law Journal for 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: the six year in a row. 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That's a Bloomberg business flash. 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike, Uh, Karen, I thank you so much. 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: It is such an a most interesting day for those 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: of a certain vintage to see the president and event, 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: and of course with all the other international relations going 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: out now, some of people would think it's either in 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the movies like the latest Tom Hanks epic on Germany 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: or Michael. Many people would go, didn't I study that? 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Like on an April Thursday twenty four years ago, the 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: long telegram, and maybe the long telegram has become a 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: short tweet. The world has changed, Ian Bremer from the 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Arasia Group is with us, And before we took a break, 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: you were talking about how it has changed, and it 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: occurred to me to ask you, Uh. For so many decades, 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: US foreign policy was based on at least an overriding 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: idea and started coming out of World War Two with 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: George Kennon and containment. We don't have anything like that 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: right now. Is there any way something like that could 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: be developed? Is there someone working on something like that, 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: some sort of overarching philosophy for US foreign pulse. Well, look, 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: I mean I think that there are lots of bits 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and pieces, but I wouldn't say that we have an 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: overarching policy. And I don't think there's been an Obama doctrine. 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: I do think that his worldview has been risk averse 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: um and it's been react when you need to, but 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: don't the whole don't do stupid stuff. I mean, if 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: that's that, that just doesn't rise to doctrine for me, 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: but it does rise to his worldview. Don't don't get 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: sucked into Syria, don't get sucked into Libya, do as 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: little as possible, and as if it becomes worse than 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: the Americans should play a role. But but it's these 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: things are morasses, right, And with China, manage the China relationship, 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: don't don't have a flare up, but it's gonna be 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: hard to actually build a partnership with them. So look, 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: you the Americans decided they were going to vote for 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: a first term senator with no foreign policy experience and 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: certainly without a worldview. That's not what he did. He 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: was very charismatic and soaring rhetoric and something that was 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: enormously different almost a one degree difference from President Push 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: and I think they got a president did reflect those sensibilities. Unfortunately, 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: this was a really bad eight years to have a 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: president that didn't do foreign policy much um and if 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: Obama was, you know, a C plus on foreign policy, 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: you kind of needed an A this time around. And 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: that's particularly problematic in the second term with a group 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: that is much weaker than his appointees in the cabinet 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the first time around. Is the industry there, the industry 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: that you're part of, is there to develop the long 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: telegram iconically the long Telegram of Georgia Canada. Oh, I 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: think the industry is there, but they don't want to serve. 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the issue that's important. What 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: do you mean by that, well, I mean the number 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: of people that have extraordinary in sites into the world 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: of international affairs, but have decided that it's just ludicrous 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: for them, given the requirements of investigation, transparency, the corruption 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: of it, and the rest um that that it exists 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: to become a diplomat um or become a part a 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: senior part of administration, most people don't want to bother 79 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: And I think that's a problem that you see across 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the board, not just in foreign policy, but in you know, 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: sort of domestic economic policy making as well. It's very 82 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: sad that my smartest friends on Wall Street would never 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: consider a term in service in the Treasury, for example, 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and I think twenty years ago that's not true. They 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: would have considered that to be the capping of a 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: very meaningful career. This morning, that Donald calls you up 87 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and says I need a copper coffee, what would you 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: tell Mr? Trump? You know, I think I'd say no, Um. 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I think I would UM. I think that it's more 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: the role that I can play UM talking truth um 91 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: internationally and two American citizens about what Trump represents is 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: more significant UM than any insight I could glean UM 93 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: or any help that I could offer him. I don't think, frankly, 94 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: I think that given who he is and what he's represented, 95 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: his willingness to take good advice on foreign policy is 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: virtually zero. That's not encouraging, It's not now. That's why 97 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: I think it was a tough decision for hass I mean, 98 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: at the time that he did it, it was formula 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: because no one thought that Trump had a shot of anything. 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, just as a matter of course, you 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: just as every four years you'd send out your briefing 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: papers and say, hey, the president of the Council Form 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Relations is available to meet with you. I think if 104 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: hass had to take that decision over again today, he might, 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: and I know him pretty well, he might actually decide differently. 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: He'd certainly be personally very conflicted, because I think any 107 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: human being of sound mind and temperament recognizes that the 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: kind of rhetoric that we see coming out of the 109 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Trump camp is actively dangerous for the few true of 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: our nation. Is a good a minute left from what 111 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: you know of Hillary Clinton? Is there a Clinton doctrine 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: for the next four day? I think there is. I 113 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: think if you go back to the speech on Economic 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Statecraft that she offered when she was first Secretary of State, 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it kind of outlines that it's the pivot 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: to Asia, it's the Transpacific partnership. Yes, what she now 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: says she's opposed to, but she was an architect on 118 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: and UM. I think it is UM, you know, sort 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: of the the recognition UM that the future of American 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: interest is overwhelmingly not Transatlantic, not the Middle East, that's 121 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: actually Asia. It's that's a bet, um, But it's a 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: bet that I think that she's willing to makes dead. 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's telling no, no, no, it's not. I don't think 124 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: it's dead at all. I think that assuming that Hillary 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: or some non Trump Republican wins um, I think that 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: it goes in the lame duck and it gets done. 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: But if Trump were to become president gains something I 128 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: really don't expect, um, then I think it'll be very 129 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: hard to do the lame duck. Don't be a strange 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: enough about his books, and I might point out the 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: careful re read of his books, his wonderful book Every 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Nation for Itself on the G zero world, You really 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: wonder with negative rates if maybe it's now the G 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: negative world. I asked that question this morning. It's unfortunately, 135 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: but at least Ian is briefing us. These briefings where 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: not as bad. Ian Bremer, this morning, thank you so much. 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: A very quiet hurt into the screen. Four day work week? 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Uh coming? And Mike, did you get through the snow 139 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: drift this morning? Yes? 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