Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. It is at all from
Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: Dan Hanzas joined by some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Boys Week fourteen. Here we go, we fly in Now.
Speaker 1: It's it's entering into that middle of December, and I
Speaker 1: know there's an extra week this year, so season not
Speaker 1: actually over till January nine. The regular season is that
Speaker 1: kind of crazy? Football is family football. His family football
Speaker 1: was family and then they added another week to the season.
Speaker 1: They don't use that anymore. They were like, we had
Speaker 1: to give up something the family at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season. But yeah, the eighteenth week is actually just
Speaker 1: like a neighbor that was just you invite him over,
Speaker 1: fight or over. But yeah, not family. Remember they announced
Speaker 1: the extra game added and they said this season is
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest season. Yeah. What came in
Speaker 1: second is football was family? Well yeah, I mean they're like,
Speaker 1: what should we go, Let's let's keep positive. The first
Speaker 1: ad campaign just creates anxiety in me. I don't need
Speaker 1: everything with the NFL to always be bigger, more balloon
Speaker 1: like family. I mean, at this point, what I am
Speaker 1: trying to insist that during like my kids TV time,
Speaker 1: that Walker stopped rewatching the two thousand twelve NFL season,
Speaker 1: and yet that's just what he's doing. He was. I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, you just enjoyed that Bears Bengals
Speaker 1: Week two games from Yes, but directly you directly created
Speaker 1: that issue in your house. Uh. Today's Thursday Tuesday night
Speaker 1: was the holiday party. Um, that was a fun time.
Speaker 1: I came up with like a best of the holiday
Speaker 1: party before we get into all the game, uh four
Speaker 1: teen games. We're gonna obviously go through each game, break
Speaker 1: it down, but a good time was had. The holiday
Speaker 1: party was held at Sophi Stadium, which was interesting. I've
Speaker 1: never been to a holiday party where I needed to
Speaker 1: go through a metal detector uh to enter the premises.
Speaker 1: But you know, it is what it is all right here.
Speaker 1: It is the best of It's kind of a countdown. Um,
Speaker 1: let's start with Erica number seven. Erica tam pose. She
Speaker 1: had a little side hustle going on at the open bar.
Speaker 1: Okay she Erica because we all got to drink tickets.
Speaker 1: Erica at a certain point ran out of her drink tickets.
Speaker 1: You might be surprised to learn this very quickly. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Ricky, what did you do there? I really like this.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, I mean, you're you're putting it all
Speaker 1: on me. I think there was some other people were
Speaker 1: involved as well, the shadow elite figures that are listening. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think to drink tickets, but then you
Speaker 1: couldn't pay cash. They the bar was it so not
Speaker 1: only do you I mean, very nice party, but only
Speaker 1: only two drinks and then you can't by the drinks. Now,
Speaker 1: I were trying to shut it down, right, So I
Speaker 1: went up and I said, hey, hey, Daisy, looked name.
Speaker 1: You got Vemo. She's venmoing the woman to give her
Speaker 1: a little side juice. And at one point, twenty dollar
Speaker 1: bills slip between two drink tickets. I was asked to
Speaker 1: handle that business. It was corrupt, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm not called tipping. I mean that makes that
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world, smart thinking. All right,
Speaker 1: how about this, speaking of drink tickets number six, Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal's drink ticket debacle. Listen to this, Sessler. I just
Speaker 1: learned about this yesterday. Laying on me. So you get
Speaker 1: to drink tickets per person, it's a plus one event,
Speaker 1: Greg brings his wonderful wife, Emmica. Emmca is not a
Speaker 1: drinker or wasn't a drinker. On Tuesday Night, Greg declines
Speaker 1: her drink tickets. That is what I heard from Assars. Now,
Speaker 1: when you could have easily handed out those two drink tickets,
Speaker 1: you decline them. No, no counterpoint. No one declined. We
Speaker 1: didn't even realize until she walked in, so they'd ever
Speaker 1: offered it to her because she would have taken them,
Speaker 1: and they didn't offer it to me. We were we
Speaker 1: were separating the line, but we didn't have him. I
Speaker 1: promise you that is so just weird, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Does that make sense? You'd almost like the video,
Speaker 1: like the bank robbery video, to go back and look
Speaker 1: in the scene and just see what Actually he definitely
Speaker 1: would never have declined it because because I, like I
Speaker 1: only used one of my to drink tickets, immediately gave
Speaker 1: it away to something to say you're happy to give away,
Speaker 1: and you could have given away three though. You could
Speaker 1: have been like, hey, do you have your drink tickets?
Speaker 1: I'll give them away. It's like it reminds me of
Speaker 1: the manscaping incident where Ricky brought in the Manscaper, and
Speaker 1: then Greg casually mentioned he has them piling up in
Speaker 1: his house and has never shared any of his manscaping
Speaker 1: equipment from the RJV. We're enthusiastic about the product, so
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad. I would not have thought it
Speaker 1: was be interested if we had the option, There's no
Speaker 1: way we would have turned in. How about this um
Speaker 1: jet your girlfriend, Ricky, she gotta kick out of me.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of pops, you know, as I
Speaker 1: was leaving the party, screaming at the top of my lungs,
Speaker 1: the fugitive line, I didn't kill my wife. Definitely something
Speaker 1: you do around well, to the point where your wife
Speaker 1: Emily kept having a turnaround being like, I'm alive, I
Speaker 1: am well, but I didn't remember this. But I wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and Jett is going, do you
Speaker 1: remember Dan? And then she was trying to do your
Speaker 1: deep voice and screaming. It very funny. It's also it's
Speaker 1: kind of a take on a theme of Dan's I
Speaker 1: feel like when we go out, which it just often
Speaker 1: involves murdered murder. You were correct? Uh Number four Mark's
Speaker 1: annual Irish goodbye. You gotta enjoy that market. You could
Speaker 1: counter Mark to disappear at this event, and everybody looks
Speaker 1: around marksman gone for an hour and a half. Well whole.
Speaker 1: I think in the past I've stayed till the end
Speaker 1: at times. UM. That was not that. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens to me at this party. I got we
Speaker 1: had a great time at Dan's house, got to the place. UM,
Speaker 1: I left with one drink ticket in my in my
Speaker 1: jacket pocket, which is usual. I mean I used then
Speaker 1: I was going to try to give it to someone.
Speaker 1: It was like, just get me out of here, and
Speaker 1: so I went home. You didn't see one person when
Speaker 1: you were exiting that were like they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: well know when I didn't realize util the was the
Speaker 1: ticket and you're here was a large man with a
Speaker 1: bald head. I felt it would be a weird thing
Speaker 1: for me to go to approach him. Hey, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not looking across probably the mark. But that's worse than Greg,
Speaker 1: did you know. I will own it. I will own
Speaker 1: it as a as a terrible maneuver on my part.
Speaker 1: All right, how about this? This was after the after
Speaker 1: the party, there was an after party at the Cozy
Speaker 1: Throwback UM, and it was a smaller gathering. I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: but Colleen and Lakisha were a Devil's Perch mark, our
Speaker 1: famous spot. We sat many a night with Chris Devil's
Speaker 1: Perch at the Cozy and Culver City and they put
Speaker 1: together a video and can we play some of that?
Speaker 1: Ricky all of it? I didn't think about that, and
Speaker 1: the life was sparkful. Santa. That was an earnest shout
Speaker 1: out to Santa Claus. I think she still believes um
Speaker 1: fully in the in that individual. I was like listening
Speaker 1: to that. It's it was pretty rare to catch, like
Speaker 1: the moment that the gummy hits allegedly. Um. I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: by the way, because I had to get up early
Speaker 1: to do the Pat McAfee show. I like that number
Speaker 1: one and let's start ranking the mothers. He signed a
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Did you see that in the news?
Speaker 1: He did? He did? That's interesting, well others did not.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him. Yeah, well it's something, you know,
Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on the business aspect
Speaker 1: of what we do. Um. All right, Uh, what was that?
Speaker 1: By the way? Was that was that fun to do?
Speaker 1: That was great? McAfee and the and his guys there.
Speaker 1: It's very chill, laid back atmosphere, and we had a
Speaker 1: fun talk. Yeah, he asked, but no one had ever
Speaker 1: asked like the process of the power ranking. So I
Speaker 1: kind of explained how we did it. I mentioned our show,
Speaker 1: mentioned that we get together and watch the end of
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football together, and that's when I start formulating it.
Speaker 1: And it's what did you say our names? I don't
Speaker 1: know if Greg and Mark came up, but the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast does that count? I don't think it works,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate it. Probably would have been too niche
Speaker 1: to get into that. I understand um number two and
Speaker 1: I feel like this should be number one. But they
Speaker 1: let everybody on the field and uh I kicked the
Speaker 1: twenty five yard field goal. That was impressive. There's video evidence.
Speaker 1: You told me that, and I have no like smartass
Speaker 1: comment for it. I'm just like, good job. It wasn't
Speaker 1: wouldn't been able to do it. Kicks for you. It
Speaker 1: hit the net, though it didn't sneak over. The hit
Speaker 1: the bottom of the net, so it got over. If
Speaker 1: they were six, If Klais Campbell was in front of you,
Speaker 1: he might have been able to black it, but it
Speaker 1: did get over and he made your one for one
Speaker 1: from twenty five, which is better than the Jets kicker
Speaker 1: last week. Extremely impressive. Oh my god, that Jets kicker.
Speaker 1: And the number one moment of the holiday party, um
Speaker 1: behind Ricky right now is the grave Digger. And we
Speaker 1: love the grave Digger because he's so hot right now,
Speaker 1: so hot right now. He's got so many things, because
Speaker 1: he's got such a bright future. I was told he
Speaker 1: was at the party again a plus one, uh, grave
Speaker 1: digger on the on his arm. Very beautiful woman, uh,
Speaker 1: I was told via a source. And now we're going
Speaker 1: to get the info that he had brought a married woman.
Speaker 1: Was not your and it was not his wife. Now
Speaker 1: we throw it to Justin. Justin on your arm, a
Speaker 1: beautiful married woman. Yes, So what's that about? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we've been just hanging out a little bit. It's nothing
Speaker 1: go on. It's like taking a while for her marriage
Speaker 1: to dissolve, or it's just open um. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: things are like fluid. Yeah, fluid, that's a great word
Speaker 1: for it. And she's not gonna listen. Do you do
Speaker 1: you know who she's married too? Or is it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Interesting you might want to know comment this. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: mean you're you're. The way that you handle this is
Speaker 1: sort of part of the it's problematic the way you
Speaker 1: just handled this whole thing. I think I don't think
Speaker 1: so mean he handled it and I love it. I
Speaker 1: just think it answers no questions for anyone that knows him.
Speaker 1: That is sort of intentional. Yes, okay, so that's why
Speaker 1: I'm talking about great things, very juicy property. It is
Speaker 1: new playoff music there again here that was did you met?
Speaker 1: You met the woman? Did? She's very nice? Absolutely, But
Speaker 1: again I'd like to see more surveillance footage of the
Speaker 1: whole you know, what is it in century? I would
Speaker 1: never do anything to violate a marriage. We're just hanging
Speaker 1: out friends for now, just friends. Very hazy. Hazy's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you've left it in the Hey, it's
Speaker 1: not my wife. I think it's it's a plus to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll keep you updated, please do Dad has never been
Speaker 1: that's a number one. That's a number one. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna keep tabs on that situation that
Speaker 1: could be central to our show. The NFL Network insider
Speaker 1: Dan Hands, I didn't know that. Um, alright, let's get
Speaker 1: into the games now without further Like, the audience just
Speaker 1: skipped the first ten minutes of the program and that's fine.
Speaker 1: We don't have an issue with that. But now we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk football. Let's get into it. We'll start with
Speaker 1: the primetime games, then hit the draft. Um you know
Speaker 1: what added, No, I'm not giving Sunday Night Football the
Speaker 1: respect of being on the top of the show as
Speaker 1: a punishment to our league and the suits for keeping
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at four and eight without a pulse
Speaker 1: in prime time just because Aaron Rodgers is a COVID warrior. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. They're going to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the show. Let's move to Monday Night Football, Rams at
Speaker 1: Cardinals from State Farm Stadium. Now it's a football game.
Speaker 1: You want to start a show. You started the right way.
Speaker 1: I go on Pat McAfee once and now he talked like,
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, get my persona back. You're Brian Kelly to
Speaker 1: Sun Degree. Let's get into it. The Rams are eating
Speaker 1: for the Rams. The Rams snapped a ugly losing streak,
Speaker 1: but it was against the Jaguars and a game, by
Speaker 1: the way, they didn't play that well in the first half.
Speaker 1: It was a close game, and then they pulled away,
Speaker 1: took care of business. They got they got to eight
Speaker 1: and four. And now if they harbor any intentions of
Speaker 1: winning the NFC West, And how crazy is it, Greggy
Speaker 1: that on December, I'm about to say this, if they
Speaker 1: have any chance to catch the Cardinals in the NFC West,
Speaker 1: they need to beat the tenant two Cards on the road.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this one? I feel like
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals team that showed up all season shows up,
Speaker 1: they're probably winning. Like this is the fork in the
Speaker 1: road game, as we sometimes like to the Rams at
Speaker 1: some point, a little bit of a crossroads game. The
Speaker 1: Rams at some point, if they want to be the
Speaker 1: team that they say they want to be, like, they
Speaker 1: have to show it, and they haven't not since Week three,
Speaker 1: really against that Bucks game, and if you think about
Speaker 1: the very next week, the Cardinals come in and and
Speaker 1: handle them. That basically started this stretch for the Rams
Speaker 1: where they just don't look as complete and I think
Speaker 1: they have the pieces to do it, like it's it's possible.
Speaker 1: You see it there. And yet when you watch the
Speaker 1: Cardinals week after week, and now that Kyler Murray's back
Speaker 1: and moving well. There's not like a lot of reason
Speaker 1: despite them only being a two and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite here to think like if each team just plays
Speaker 1: their average game that the Rams have a good chance.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think the Rams have to show us
Speaker 1: something they haven't. I think it's a huge test for
Speaker 1: this Cardinal secondary, which has been badass all year Byron
Speaker 1: Murphy getting after Jalen Thompson, these guys who we don't
Speaker 1: really know about. It's a big test for their defensive
Speaker 1: backs because I just think Sean McVeigh is gonna try
Speaker 1: to attack that group in a way like they did
Speaker 1: in the first game. They threw the ball pretty well
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals the first time, but like that is
Speaker 1: the Cardinals area where you do wonder could have buckled
Speaker 1: down the stretch. The Cardinals have been the most consistent team.
Speaker 1: They have one loss when Kyler Murray is the starter.
Speaker 1: That was a three point loss to the Packers on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. They have been to me, you could it's
Speaker 1: if when their offense is not leading the way it's
Speaker 1: been their defense. Last week they absolutely took Chicago apart early,
Speaker 1: and they they create turnovers. I don't love this game
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. And it's not just what happened the
Speaker 1: first time. I just think that the Rams have been vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is getting hit every week. Arizona can create
Speaker 1: a pass rush. This is the most over looked great
Speaker 1: team in sports right now, and I think it has
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Arizona sports all of sports.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't track any of the other sports.
Speaker 1: And I'm confidently telling you that I just about the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. I mean the two options right now, playing
Speaker 1: the same city. I feel like the Sun's got I
Speaker 1: mean they just won like eight team is a fair
Speaker 1: normally right there. I am locking up the Cardinals on
Speaker 1: Monday night because I believe in this team that much.
Speaker 1: I just do. I think that they like the version
Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray you got last week too. I know
Speaker 1: they haven't used them a lot on the ground. They
Speaker 1: did a week ago and it was in bad conditions.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see if that, you know, goes on
Speaker 1: another week or two. But James Connor is fit in
Speaker 1: really well there. DeAndre Hopkins looked healthy to me last week.
Speaker 1: Why not? I love it? Mark it's uh. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I gave you some grief and guff about
Speaker 1: locking up the Cowboys over the Saints last Thursday night.
Speaker 1: This is very predictable. Whenever that happened. It's Dan playing
Speaker 1: for the next week. He knows Marco get bowled the
Speaker 1: next And then and then you came at me and
Speaker 1: you said, how dare you you know, say that to me?
Speaker 1: You locked up against the Titans when they were all
Speaker 1: banged up. And then it's like, well, it's no, it's
Speaker 1: no coincidence that we were doing that. Because in this
Speaker 1: strange ass season, the really only way to figure out
Speaker 1: the Locks game is find the team that's like crippled
Speaker 1: by injury and then you bang them. Everything else is
Speaker 1: a coin flip. Is Greg's standings? Canna a test? It's
Speaker 1: very hard to pick games on the Locks. Yeah, it's struggling.
Speaker 1: I do have some breaking news right here. Um. The
Speaker 1: Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They were sold a decade ago and moved to Winnipeg,
Speaker 1: where they became the second incarnation of the Jets. So
Speaker 1: not underrated, not in existence for a decade. What's there
Speaker 1: in Winnipeg. That doesn't count. They're not the Thrashers anymore. Um,
Speaker 1: but they're twelve nine and four. Okay, well, guess what, Marquette,
Speaker 1: they haven't played any conference games yet, but they're eight
Speaker 1: and two. Well, I gave you the Marquette point. The
Speaker 1: world is standing is that. I was like, where's Atlanta?
Speaker 1: They don't they don't exist. Um anyway, forget about the Locks.
Speaker 1: All right, good luck there, Mark I. Um, and it
Speaker 1: is over. The NFC West is over. If the Cardinals
Speaker 1: do their business at home here, because that would put
Speaker 1: them at eleven and two, the Rams would fall to
Speaker 1: eight and five the Niners or five hundred the Seahawks obviously,
Speaker 1: or where they are. Uh So, this is such an
Speaker 1: important game for the Cardinals, and it's a statement game
Speaker 1: because if you go and you beat up on the
Speaker 1: mighty Rams, the we're all in Rams that this that
Speaker 1: that the NFL network loves the Rams. Guess what, Guess what?
Speaker 1: You are an absolute Super Bowl favorite, and I think
Speaker 1: we're all in an agreement that this is this team
Speaker 1: is for real. And in reverse, the Rams would all
Speaker 1: the questions that kind of maybe went away as a
Speaker 1: focal point all week long about the Rams after beating
Speaker 1: up on a bad Jaguars team would come screaming back
Speaker 1: because this is a Rams the Rams once again on
Speaker 1: an island game. This started when they were stumped by
Speaker 1: the Niners. I think with the Rams they face a
Speaker 1: lot of the questions to me that the Bills faced
Speaker 1: in some way, which is that can you run the ball?
Speaker 1: They got that was a big takeaway. I know it
Speaker 1: was against the Jaguars, but they ran block really well
Speaker 1: last week. They maybe get their Henderson back. If there's
Speaker 1: a weakness in in Arizona, they're a little softer against
Speaker 1: the run. Now Zavian Collins has been off and on J. J.
Speaker 1: Watts her, I think you gotta beat him by running.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Rams run the ball, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals to me are the most complete team in
Speaker 1: the NFL because they can close out games running the
Speaker 1: ball like they don't. That rain game, to me was
Speaker 1: a little worrisome if you're a Cardinals fan in terms
Speaker 1: of bad weather, which makes this game and the rest
Speaker 1: of the regular season even more important. You could tell
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who came into the league a little bit
Speaker 1: of that small hands rep like Jared goff Is he
Speaker 1: gonna be bad, good and bad weather. He could not
Speaker 1: grip the ball very well last week. I think that's
Speaker 1: why they only threw it fifteen times. It's why you
Speaker 1: couldn't hold on to it. A couple had a couple
Speaker 1: of nice throws too. But you know what, you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. You're at a dome five
Speaker 1: straight weeks the rest of the regular season, and you
Speaker 1: are the number one seed right now. So go get
Speaker 1: that by get the home games, and don't wear it
Speaker 1: with Super Bowls in Los Angeles? Do you, by the way, Mark,
Speaker 1: do you think that when Gregg makes a point it
Speaker 1: actually feels stronger because he's wearing a tie in glasses
Speaker 1: right now? Oh yeah, but Greg knows my I think
Speaker 1: you look wonderful, Greg. But I don't believe in ties
Speaker 1: as a concept. But you were actually wear like a
Speaker 1: suit jacket all the time. Suit jack is cool. I
Speaker 1: mean the tie thing to me feels a little. It
Speaker 1: feels a little from like that to me too, Like
Speaker 1: he's like they got you. I answered with how I
Speaker 1: feels like I don't mind the tie. I would be
Speaker 1: fine if we had to wear the same uniform every day.
Speaker 1: I want the decision taking out of my hands, like
Speaker 1: just tell I wish we had a wardrobe department and
Speaker 1: endless money. That just they just suited us up. And
Speaker 1: so I do think you look sharp. The NFL now
Speaker 1: they always wear ties. And the reason I put it
Speaker 1: on today is I was I was sitting and I
Speaker 1: saw a video of myself last week and it it
Speaker 1: looks sloppier next to those guys who aren't wearing it.
Speaker 1: And it's not like I look cool without it. I
Speaker 1: look dorky either way. So I thought you love California
Speaker 1: casual before and then the glasses too, well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like wearing the glasses when there's no sun. It's raining today,
Speaker 1: it's a rare day. You used to have the glasses
Speaker 1: that would turn into sunglasses with the sun, and I
Speaker 1: think that was you were a little young to be sported.
Speaker 1: Asked the Emma for some glasses, like maybe an array
Speaker 1: of them and maybe get them into the mix more.
Speaker 1: I love wearing some glasses. By the way, at NFL Network,
Speaker 1: they outfit the women but not the men. What if
Speaker 1: you started a like they probably reverse times of movement.
Speaker 1: They could try to get us suited and booted. I
Speaker 1: feel like it would go, well, make it very public.
Speaker 1: I think they don't outfit us, some of these players.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say suits with top hats. I mean they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't. Well then there, but they someone they like.
Speaker 1: If you're Michael Irvan, I want you to someone someone
Speaker 1: in Michael Irvan's life is telling him, I think it's
Speaker 1: a good week for you to wear the pink suit
Speaker 1: in the top hat with the fur coat. Like he's
Speaker 1: not coming up with all that on his own. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the draft. I think he most certainly,
Speaker 1: I gotta think he is. He seems like a fashionable guy.
Speaker 1: I think what happens to everyone on these TV shows
Speaker 1: is clothing becomes the most one of the most important
Speaker 1: things in their life. I it has not reached that
Speaker 1: point with me. We appear occasionally on unfair thing for
Speaker 1: you to say because they just because they have stylists
Speaker 1: and can afford it, doesn't mean that becomes more important
Speaker 1: to them than or that you like it, or it
Speaker 1: makes you like kind of get into it, you take
Speaker 1: all you want. It's just how I feel. I think
Speaker 1: clothing becomes a focal point for people that suddenly exist
Speaker 1: in a different world. All right, And with that said,
Speaker 1: I mean that was not that did not that was
Speaker 1: not the jovial. That could have been more jovial. But
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then get to the draft. Please,
Speaker 1: that could have been word jovial. Right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. It's starting with the number one over
Speaker 1: I'll pick the old Zeuser has the number one pick,
Speaker 1: Dan Zeus, and I will go because that double third
Speaker 1: person nothing. Uh, you know it is surprising though. Mark
Speaker 1: went out of his way to tell me that he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to watch the Browns on Sunday, so I
Speaker 1: will go and take the Ravens at Browns with the
Speaker 1: first overall pick. I love this game. I love how
Speaker 1: messy and sloppy and imperfect. The a f C North
Speaker 1: is no team really to me profiles as a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl team. But that doesn't mean it's not fun to
Speaker 1: watch him roll around in the mud a little bit
Speaker 1: in December, and I think the Ravens coming up a
Speaker 1: very difficult uh loss to the Steelers where they gave
Speaker 1: up seventeen points to a big bend team and the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter get the big score at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. Greg, I did watch that two point conversion repeatedly,
Speaker 1: and I think you really could make a case for
Speaker 1: both sides. I am not willing to say that that
Speaker 1: you're right and it was not Lamar's fault at all,
Speaker 1: But I'm also not gonna say he blew it and
Speaker 1: missed a wide open Mark Andrews. Either he did get
Speaker 1: the space, but he had to drop down at three
Speaker 1: quarters with a tricky throw, and it's in. There's been
Speaker 1: some argument that like Andrews flattened out the route and
Speaker 1: like slowed down a little board. When it comes down
Speaker 1: to like that minuscule of a thing, it's a little both.
Speaker 1: He was open. It wasn't a great play by anyone
Speaker 1: for the Steelers except for t. J. Watt. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so the Ravens now they go to Cleveland to face
Speaker 1: the Browns, and this feels like and I know it's
Speaker 1: wide open the a f C. And even if the
Speaker 1: Browns lost this game, blah blah blah, they could get
Speaker 1: back into things. But I think the Browns are cooked
Speaker 1: if they lose the Ravens in this game. I think
Speaker 1: they are a team that's hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 1: This idea. They went into the season as a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender in the eyes of many, and it's been
Speaker 1: such a difficult season. There have been ups, there have
Speaker 1: been downs. But I feel like the Ravens come to
Speaker 1: your building and whip your butt and drop you to
Speaker 1: six and seven, and they go to nine and four.
Speaker 1: The walls come in on Cleveland. So maybe that motivates
Speaker 1: the Mark, maybe that they know that maybe their backs
Speaker 1: are against the wall and they deliver a big performance
Speaker 1: which they are capable of. UM. But I think those
Speaker 1: are the stakes here. One of their traits under Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski has been bouncing back from darkness from bad losses.
Speaker 1: They've done a pretty good job of that, especially last season. UM.
Speaker 1: But I agree with your points so much, Dan that
Speaker 1: this is what I wrote in my notes, that the
Speaker 1: Browns lose this It's not unfair to call this season
Speaker 1: a total disaster. I don't care about the mathematical contingencies
Speaker 1: of them sneaking into some wild card spot. They've been
Speaker 1: outshined by every team in the Amster North. And if
Speaker 1: we told you, if I said back in April, this
Speaker 1: is the situation, they'd be in six and six, UM,
Speaker 1: with the potential to have lost the stealer. Steelers have
Speaker 1: been swept by the Ravens. That is as ugly as
Speaker 1: a prediction as there would have been about the Browns
Speaker 1: back then, especially considering what Baltimore has had to go
Speaker 1: through to get here injury wise, and what they're facing now.
Speaker 1: There's this feeling in Baltimore now that not only could
Speaker 1: you know the division be up for grabs, but that
Speaker 1: the playoffs aren't guaranteed. I feel like people are overreact
Speaker 1: seen to that miss two point conversion, because, as Dan's
Speaker 1: been pointing out, this kind of who the Ravens have
Speaker 1: been all season, like living, you know, trying hard despite
Speaker 1: all the injuries, making some thing's work, but like living
Speaker 1: on the edge. And yet they now look at Marlon Humphrey,
Speaker 1: their best cornerback, being out for the season. They now
Speaker 1: look at Patrick McCarry maybe been their best offensive lineman
Speaker 1: at right tackle, kind of been a revelation, really helped
Speaker 1: that offensive line, replacing Orlando Brown out for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: And they're feeling like, are we over the precipice of
Speaker 1: the injury situation, where now we don't do anything particularly well,
Speaker 1: Like the one thing they did well was throw the
Speaker 1: ball down the field and outside the numbers, and Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson's in a slump that really goes back to Week six.
Speaker 1: That's a long slump. So as much as the Browns
Speaker 1: are looking at themselves with a lot of question marks,
Speaker 1: they're a little healthier. I know they might be short,
Speaker 1: they're tight ends, but they're still healthier overall, and their
Speaker 1: defense is healthier maybe than it's been all season, and
Speaker 1: they have to be looking at this as an opportunity.
Speaker 1: There's five games left and if you're trying to pick
Speaker 1: one of these teams in the NFL that who can
Speaker 1: change their story down the stretch because some teams well
Speaker 1: for good and bad, some teams will think totally different
Speaker 1: about going into Week eight team than we do right now.
Speaker 1: The Browns at least are a strong candidate to be
Speaker 1: one of those teams because it's all there, the divisions
Speaker 1: there in front of them, the players are there on
Speaker 1: the field for the most part. They gotta just show up.
Speaker 1: And today I want to throw something out because Mark
Speaker 1: you have you've coined the term years ago about the
Speaker 1: team that's struggled but then causes issues down the stretch
Speaker 1: of the berserker. I think on the other side of that,
Speaker 1: the underperforming team that you keep an eye on because
Speaker 1: they can get hot and all of a sudden find
Speaker 1: their way right into the mix, the championship mix. I
Speaker 1: call them a disruptor. That's what I think the Browns
Speaker 1: could be. The Ravens have been that team in the past,
Speaker 1: very that's still disappointing if you're the Browns. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't know, you went three straight or something here.
Speaker 1: You'll forget about all of this. But it's just I
Speaker 1: don't like to make up with the team right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's no small thing that you don't have
Speaker 1: your punter and and having Harrison Brian and David na
Speaker 1: Joko your two tight ends is huge. In the run game,
Speaker 1: they held the Browns to forty yards rushing last time,
Speaker 1: dominated them at the line, and Brown's had four interceptions
Speaker 1: and got three points out of it. This game is
Speaker 1: the Ravens got to solve this blitzing thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love Lamar, I love this raven staff, but they
Speaker 1: don't have an answer right now for when teams are
Speaker 1: blitzing them. It's not like you don't have to be
Speaker 1: an expert to see what's going on here. And this
Speaker 1: is a game I think Cleveland get very aggressive, get creative,
Speaker 1: cause some problems, just like good pick. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been weirdly on on Aaron Donald's case the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Kind of fun, but really, go win a
Speaker 1: game in a big spot, and you could do that
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Miles Garrett Meles garts having a great year,
Speaker 1: but absolutely cause havoc and put your team on your
Speaker 1: back in this spot. He has that ability as well.
Speaker 1: One of the things you're not going to watch this one, Mark,
Speaker 1: I mean I will eventually, but you didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be your main game. I need, I need. I
Speaker 1: know what teams fascinating me right now. Well, the Browns
Speaker 1: will always fascinate you the most I know, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's been a long term relationship that's bordered on
Speaker 1: abusive and I need a little bit of a breathing room,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, all right, Lamar hasn't had a rushing
Speaker 1: touchdown since week to either, Like, that's one thing I
Speaker 1: was jumping out to me last week. He that used
Speaker 1: to be a major part of their offense, you know,
Speaker 1: the chunk plays on the ground and it opened up
Speaker 1: the passing game. That element of the game is missing
Speaker 1: as well. It's just been their offense is not easy
Speaker 1: to watch right now? All right? The second overall pick?
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, all right, well, I am going to I
Speaker 1: talked about teams that fascinate me. This is a pet
Speaker 1: team verse pet team, you know, a kiddie clash like.
Speaker 1: I like these two teams so much that I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what happens. The six and sixty Niners
Speaker 1: verse the seven and five Bengals. Greg, last week, you
Speaker 1: felt that it was too much. I was too unrealistic
Speaker 1: and it just didn't fit for the Bengals to beat
Speaker 1: the Chargers and get to eight and four. Is eight
Speaker 1: and five palatable enough for you? This game, to me
Speaker 1: the one most if I were to if I were
Speaker 1: to pick, I think either of one of these, But no,
Speaker 1: to use that test, it makes more sense that both
Speaker 1: these teams would be seven and six if I was
Speaker 1: using that same particular game is not working out well
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati every time we play it, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: they need another loss. Well, it's more because also the
Speaker 1: forty nine is definitely feel like better than a six
Speaker 1: and six team. To me, they do well. I think
Speaker 1: their season. I mean, if we're looking at the Rams
Speaker 1: and these other teams in the NFC West San Francisco
Speaker 1: that you know it was the hottest team in the
Speaker 1: conference outside of the Cardinals a week or two ago,
Speaker 1: has to show up here. And the one lingering image
Speaker 1: um that concerns me because last week I thought the
Speaker 1: Bengals were killed and went down early because we finally
Speaker 1: had Justin Herbert dialing up big shots down field and
Speaker 1: one on one coverage, and the Bengals allowed them to
Speaker 1: do that, um to their error and climb back into
Speaker 1: that game. Because I think they are still a really
Speaker 1: good team. But the image that stuck with me on
Speaker 1: Sunday was Kyle Shanahan. It was a pretty mild mannered
Speaker 1: on the sideline. He's not some screamer, but he lost
Speaker 1: his cool with Jimmy G after the antics of the
Speaker 1: end zone safety, a terrible interception getting stuffed on third
Speaker 1: and one, and it's like, we don't trust Jimmy G
Speaker 1: to go do what Justin Herbert just did to the
Speaker 1: Bengals on any level. I think if we get Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel in this that will be massive practice Wednesday. But
Speaker 1: there worse. There was some optimism before that, and this
Speaker 1: typically doesn't mean anything but last week he was resolute
Speaker 1: and like, oh, I'll be playing next week. I'm only
Speaker 1: missing one game. We'll see what that actually means. But
Speaker 1: something got Burrows districated. Finger I know it's being like,
Speaker 1: that's not a big deal. Well, I mean, did you
Speaker 1: see what it looked like. It seems like it would
Speaker 1: be a mild deal. It was very it was very swollen,
Speaker 1: but he came and played fantastic. I thought after that injury,
Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrows having an underrated season. Somehow, he
Speaker 1: to me, he just is so much better this year
Speaker 1: than he was as a rookie, even though the mobility,
Speaker 1: especially early was down. So it's a game where you
Speaker 1: trust the Bengals quarterback more, but you trust at least
Speaker 1: I trust the forty Niners operation more, like why can't
Speaker 1: we have a George Kittle game like that more often?
Speaker 1: The Bengals are one of the worst teams in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of giving up plays up the seams.
Speaker 1: That's where Jimmy g is usually good, although it's also
Speaker 1: where he throws interceptions quite often. But George Kittle, Deebo,
Speaker 1: hopefully he's back. I like plays up the seams, mashing
Speaker 1: the ball. I do think the Bengals defense is is
Speaker 1: a little vulnerable in that way. Who are you going
Speaker 1: to root for? Mark? That's what I love about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could ship back and totally enjoy it,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm much more would want the
Speaker 1: Bengals to take a small minor I think Shanahan was
Speaker 1: also annoyed. I'm I'm glad we can mention this here
Speaker 1: because I've forgotten the Cardinals that Kingsbury showed up after
Speaker 1: the bye week with a Shanahan like beard and a
Speaker 1: Shanahan flat brim hat, and I was like, like, he
Speaker 1: looked a lot like Shanahan, and I think he was.
Speaker 1: He was kind of saying, I'm the new Shanahan and
Speaker 1: that is hot. That's a hot take. I love that take.
Speaker 1: And these guys definitely notice these things, Oh definitely, so
Speaker 1: the things like when I almost saw two head coaches
Speaker 1: fight at the Combine a few years ago, Like they
Speaker 1: notice everything. In Kingsbury. He cares about how he looks,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. Everyone does at some point, but I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not allowed to write that point to some degree.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he waited for that bye week because
Speaker 1: he didn't want to be in the in between. You know,
Speaker 1: while he was on the sideline, he timed it out
Speaker 1: for the bye week, grew that beard, wore that flapper.
Speaker 1: It seemed like you were making an insinuation mark that
Speaker 1: at a certain point, if you reach a level in
Speaker 1: this industry, it becomes more about how you look then Ball.
Speaker 1: That seemed to be what you were saying. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I think I'm not. I think the
Speaker 1: same thing that cared about it on air, they cared
Speaker 1: a lot before they were on air. And then there's
Speaker 1: the reverse. Some people kind of don't care in either.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. I just feel like maybe I
Speaker 1: want to be there. Give me that wardrobe and I'll start.
Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't handle, like, how do I
Speaker 1: go build a whole, like a huge wardrobe of my
Speaker 1: own without a money b I have, Like my we
Speaker 1: don't have any room in our house to store four
Speaker 1: thousand extra shirt. I'm just saying it's too much, it's
Speaker 1: beyond my It's something I'll deal with, something I'll deal
Speaker 1: with next year. It's like how we get our own
Speaker 1: parking spaces right by the entrance, and I'm the only
Speaker 1: one that uses it because you guys are so working class.
Speaker 1: I guess same thing, Mark, we are. Let's not, you know,
Speaker 1: let's not hide from the fact that they give us
Speaker 1: our own lockers. Basically now in a dressing room like
Speaker 1: and yours is the only one that's completely empty. The
Speaker 1: parking space thing is only because from what I hear
Speaker 1: and I you and I actually I passed you today,
Speaker 1: um and gave you an adult hands. You seem like
Speaker 1: you have a bigger We don't have a problem. I
Speaker 1: don't here at all. I just because we've never I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never more than two second one to have the
Speaker 1: inter like this, it's it's worth it to not have
Speaker 1: the social interaction of like making someone get up, which
Speaker 1: is fine, and everyone has their own. That's the thing
Speaker 1: making a man come over and take a cone away
Speaker 1: so that I can park. It's just that I don't
Speaker 1: even know how when I'm there's no one even to
Speaker 1: talk to when I get to that level. That's part
Speaker 1: of that person's job, like theyre I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 1: see them when I get there, and it's just my
Speaker 1: parking spot is maybe forty yards away around the bend.
Speaker 1: I'm good to get a little, get those steps and
Speaker 1: get a little Anyways, that's what it's about, all right.
Speaker 1: He went way off topic. Oh I thought eron Glenn
Speaker 1: and Aaron Glenn got fired in our email, but he
Speaker 1: didn't not yet. All right, let's um, they're playing well lately,
Speaker 1: those fighting lions. Let's move on and uh up next
Speaker 1: is Greg. I can't believe you left Bill's Bucks to
Speaker 1: the third pick. It's the game of the week. It
Speaker 1: might be the game of the year for me. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: that's overstate. It's not it's not even the game of
Speaker 1: the week. Ram's Cardinals a little better. But this is
Speaker 1: Romo nance and I am just fascinated by this because
Speaker 1: of the matchup. First of all, Tom Brady said the
Speaker 1: minute he was off the field last week, next game
Speaker 1: is our biggest game of the year. And he's like
Speaker 1: the last person whoever gets like that, And I was like,
Speaker 1: why why did he say that? First of all, he's got,
Speaker 1: you know, a thing with Buffalo blah blah blah, but
Speaker 1: he sees them as like a Super Bowl contender, as
Speaker 1: a real test and you almost get a sense with
Speaker 1: these Bucks and just the way that the schedule worked
Speaker 1: out that ay, they're not being tested, that they're almost
Speaker 1: having to rev themselves up, uh to get these you know,
Speaker 1: wins taken care of. And they've done a good job
Speaker 1: of it against the Falcons, like Giants, games like that.
Speaker 1: And then you look at the rest of their schedule.
Speaker 1: Sure they're gonna be fired up for that game against
Speaker 1: the Saints, but they don't play a team with a
Speaker 1: winning record the rest of the season until the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And I think Tom Brady was fully aware that when
Speaker 1: he said it. I think he wants everyone healthy and
Speaker 1: back for this game. I think he has questions, uh
Speaker 1: about his team and how they're gonna stand up in
Speaker 1: a big spot. And as as much as Buffalo has
Speaker 1: struggled lately, on paper, they up pretty well with Tampa
Speaker 1: in that they're a passing team and the Buccaneers defense
Speaker 1: is vulnerable to the past. Like if ever there is
Speaker 1: a week for Brian Dable to ignore Sean McDermott and
Speaker 1: just throw the ball forty five times, I think this
Speaker 1: is it. Can we see the old Bills passing attack
Speaker 1: in perfect conditions against a banged up secondary. Even as
Speaker 1: the Bucks get some of their players back, they lose
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards to suspension. Jamal Diane as a concussion. White
Speaker 1: Head was out last week. Don't think he he might
Speaker 1: not be back, and so they're still vulnerable. This is
Speaker 1: a game where I think the Bills need to outscore Tampa.
Speaker 1: This stress opposed to every other week when you don't
Speaker 1: want to outscore the right like not outscoring would be
Speaker 1: not opened. I just mean you're gonna have to put
Speaker 1: up thirty five or so this stretch, this Patriots Bucks.
Speaker 1: You got the Panthers in there, then the Patriots again.
Speaker 1: It's just the it's the acid test for Buffalo. It's
Speaker 1: kind of um like. It reminds me. I don't know
Speaker 1: why this came into my head, but like when John
Speaker 1: Lennon had that lost year in Los Angeles where he
Speaker 1: was on the outs with um Yoko Ono and his
Speaker 1: life and off the rails, but you come out of
Speaker 1: it having learned something about yourself and maybe having grown.
Speaker 1: This is that, This to me is it for the
Speaker 1: Bills because what we think about them has changed so remarkably.
Speaker 1: For me, the New England game, like we can't say
Speaker 1: all last week, it really matters what happens against the
Speaker 1: Patriots and then blame it on the weather that it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I know I'm not greg, I'm not
Speaker 1: just pointing to you. I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like, well, actually, no, no, we still really believe
Speaker 1: in the Bills, and I believe in them a little
Speaker 1: bit less because of the way they love this team
Speaker 1: a year ago. I love the idea of the Bills
Speaker 1: my whole life. I mean, there's I just feel like
Speaker 1: it's a hard it's hard to say like the Bills
Speaker 1: were exposed on Monday night, given how strange it was
Speaker 1: because of the weather. It doesn't mean that it wasn't disappointing,
Speaker 1: or that the fact that there's seven and five is
Speaker 1: a massive letdown from what expectations were. And that's why
Speaker 1: this game I'm really pumped to see, because this really
Speaker 1: is this is gut check time. Do you see my points? Though,
Speaker 1: it's like we're we're deferring the now it matters for
Speaker 1: the Bills, were saying before that game started, and as
Speaker 1: a fan watching it, I kind of thought, I don't
Speaker 1: know what this game tells me at all, whether the
Speaker 1: Patriots win or lose. It's sort of a one off
Speaker 1: in that it's so unique. I see what you're saying Mark,
Speaker 1: it's a playing in that weather too, But that's fine,
Speaker 1: you know, but the Patriots could have lost and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought that they were away, because that's my point,
Speaker 1: that the weather made it so weird that you almost
Speaker 1: have to or at least I do, And I guess
Speaker 1: Greg agrees that just got a whole judgment. Still on
Speaker 1: the Bills, Let's get him against Tampa on the road.
Speaker 1: And if the Bills really are messed up or doomed
Speaker 1: as you said on Tuesday, Um, then they will lose
Speaker 1: this game, and they will beat the Panthers the next
Speaker 1: week probably and then lose again to New England, and
Speaker 1: that will be their fate. Um. I'm just not ready
Speaker 1: to go there. I think there is maybe something within
Speaker 1: this team and maybe a frustrating loss where not only
Speaker 1: did you get beat in a really tough game in
Speaker 1: prime time, after the game you rubbed the wrong way
Speaker 1: the way people try to spin the game, UM as
Speaker 1: some type of uh you know, addressing week this is
Speaker 1: that we're exposed in a big spot. I think they're
Speaker 1: mad about all that. I think the Bucks are and try.
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are gonna win this game. I
Speaker 1: go that far I think they got this. I I
Speaker 1: don't want to go down like hot Take Avenue with this,
Speaker 1: like I did with like multiple teams in both conferences
Speaker 1: a week ago. It is a layer cake to me
Speaker 1: of displeasure for the Bills, because the first layer is
Speaker 1: the Titans loss. The second layers that Jaguars debacle. The
Speaker 1: third layer was getting totally thumped and outmanned by the Cults.
Speaker 1: The fourth layer is the Patriots game. How many more
Speaker 1: layers on this cake do we need for me to
Speaker 1: lose a little bit of faith that this team is
Speaker 1: not last beyond McDermott. McDermott's own words and frustrations. Don't
Speaker 1: have any more faith, You're out. I don't have no faith,
Speaker 1: you said. I'm more. I'm in a different place than
Speaker 1: you like. If they beat the Bucks, I will allow
Speaker 1: some of those sins to float down the river. But
Speaker 1: I don't just ignore the game because it was in
Speaker 1: poor weather or anything else that's happened. It's all part
Speaker 1: of the story that that's fair. And yet when I
Speaker 1: look at this matchup, it's not the things that everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about that I'm worried about the Bills. It is
Speaker 1: their path, same game it is Josh Allen, Stefon, dig Sanders, Knox,
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. Because for this team to make sense, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why McDermott so frustrated. They need to
Speaker 1: be like the Bills. They're having the same feelings, uh
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are having right now, except when they're
Speaker 1: going up against good team. You know they're they're having
Speaker 1: a tougher schedule. Basically, you look at this match of
Speaker 1: Bill's Bucks. Can the Bills really get after Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really and that was Atlanta,
Speaker 1: But even then, like Tristan Worse, hasn't given up a
Speaker 1: pressure since Week eight, Tom Brady is still the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in football. I think when he's given time, like
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, isn't that close. So if you got that
Speaker 1: big of an edge at quarterback, I don't think that.
Speaker 1: To me. The coaching is a wash here and you
Speaker 1: give the Bucks a little bit of an edge. Great game.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch it. What a freaking pick at
Speaker 1: number maybe one of the best. I'm about to have,
Speaker 1: one of the best drafts anyone's had. I gave Dan
Speaker 1: a good draft. I feel like I helped make you happy.
Speaker 1: The reason why I didn't take it, Greg, is because
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew my late afternoon is gonna be
Speaker 1: bills at Bucks and niners at Bengals. So all I
Speaker 1: needed was to take my Ravens and Browns and then
Speaker 1: hopefully they that those two games stay on mark by
Speaker 1: the time I come back around. Didn't work out that
Speaker 1: way for the old zeuser. Well, that that's doing a
Speaker 1: disservice to your other four pm game. I'm taking an
Speaker 1: early game now. And wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: before you go calm down, we have we have someone
Speaker 1: else that wants to talk about this game. It's a
Speaker 1: Westling brother. Hello, heroes, Phil here Week four Keen and
Speaker 1: the west Lane Boys desperately need a win. I only
Speaker 1: have one recording this week, or maybe another one if
Speaker 1: things start going sideways. Made game. I had zero in
Speaker 1: my brother, So you know what that means. No Bengals
Speaker 1: and it's something Mackie and me. Sean McDermott, you got
Speaker 1: outcoached last week by the goat when the Pets only
Speaker 1: through three passes and you couldn't even own it. This week,
Speaker 1: you're going against another goat who was guaranteed to threat
Speaker 1: more in three passes unless for Net runs all over
Speaker 1: you to pop off, bucks over bills, lock it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a delicious little irony that the people of
Speaker 1: Western New York aren't going to want to hear. But
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick end
Speaker 1: your season and forces again. I hadn't even thought of that.
Speaker 1: You're joining forces. And by the way, Nick Westling did
Speaker 1: he sent two files last week, and one I guess
Speaker 1: was I don't listen he sends the Western Brothers sent
Speaker 1: me a file. I never listened until the show I
Speaker 1: and he said he sent one and then said, actually,
Speaker 1: don't use that one, use this one. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: and I sent that one on to Ricky. I need
Speaker 1: to just get out of this business. They just need
Speaker 1: to send it straight to Ricky. But I just it's
Speaker 1: amazing to me. So Nick was telling the truth. He
Speaker 1: did have two files, one locking up the Bengals, one
Speaker 1: locking up the Chargers. But who does that? Well? I
Speaker 1: also did you dirty? I thought on Twitter? And we
Speaker 1: don't need to go down that road. But how about
Speaker 1: this um? Being a middleman is never a good role.
Speaker 1: You don't need to keep be a middleman at this point,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a smart for you. I think
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of the middle, net Ricky going forward.
Speaker 1: Can we just get the Westling Brothers to send it
Speaker 1: to you? Yeah, all right, here we go. Let's move on. Greg. Sorry,
Speaker 1: without further adode Greggy with the Cowboys. It's the Washington
Speaker 1: football team. It's early. It's important if Washington wins this game.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this game. I really am, because I
Speaker 1: have somewhat openly thought this Washington run a little phony,
Speaker 1: not quite buying it. Like it's fine, like they it
Speaker 1: makes sense. They deserve credit. They've they've beaten some bad
Speaker 1: offenses with some well coached defense. Like give Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Taylor Heineke playing better for a
Speaker 1: month overall, uh than I expected. But to me, there's
Speaker 1: still a seven or eight type of win team. And
Speaker 1: now you're going up again Dallas in a game where okay,
Speaker 1: it's de Marcus Lawrence's second game back. Cooper was just
Speaker 1: coming off COVID wasn't totally right in terms of the
Speaker 1: snap count a week ago. Now they've got a little
Speaker 1: extra rest coming off that Thursday game. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's Lamb, Cooper, Martin, Tyron Smith, Gallop Zeke. All of
Speaker 1: those guys had actually never played together with Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: until a week ago, and now here we're back again.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you add Randy Gregory, who
Speaker 1: looked like a pro bowler earlier in the season, is back.
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore, who's their best interior lineman from a year ago,
Speaker 1: is gonna play for the first time all season. I
Speaker 1: think this Washington offensive line has been well coached up,
Speaker 1: but it's like, I don't think Taylor Heineke can go
Speaker 1: up and down the field on this defense. And if
Speaker 1: you can't do that, I think this game ends up
Speaker 1: being a little sideways. And that's why I'm locking up
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's right. Dramatic pause. Well we'll let it.
Speaker 1: And I was trying to fit no, I love that gap. Um.
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, who do I
Speaker 1: lock up this week? And then I heard Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna win this game. I'm confident that. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the voice too. Oh, I thought you
Speaker 1: right back. It's Mike McCarthy, Yes, the mastermind behind it all. Yeah, Marky, Well,
Speaker 1: so what we often frown on Cowboys Cowboys Hubris. In
Speaker 1: this case, I kind of love what he did. I
Speaker 1: with you. I think this is maybe where the rainbow
Speaker 1: ends for Washington. Uh, it's just I don't like the
Speaker 1: matchup on any level. A lot of things have gone
Speaker 1: right for them. That said, if Dallas lost this, utter
Speaker 1: chaos would be unleashed on that Organisa, you here, play Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy again, Ricky, please, you know we're gonna win
Speaker 1: this game. I'm confident in that. It sounds let spoke.
Speaker 1: It sounds a little bit like he's does he sound
Speaker 1: that confident? It looks like he's like, I'm looking past
Speaker 1: this game. We're gonna win this game, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on and continue to win football games. It
Speaker 1: would the NFC East is there's if they win this game.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm with you, Greg. Everything you said is
Speaker 1: the reason why I locked the game up. I think
Speaker 1: Washington deserves credit for making the season interesting, especially especially
Speaker 1: with Chase Young going down Mantes sweat. By the way,
Speaker 1: we talked about his broken jaw. Uh and uh, he
Speaker 1: is supposed to come back, but then he got COVID
Speaker 1: and he's not vaccinated. Yeah, he is out now for
Speaker 1: at least ten days. I think it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and then he has to not test positive and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So it's been a nice story that the
Speaker 1: defense has gotten off the mat, even though they're underman uh.
Speaker 1: Tellor Heineke has been obviously a nice story. Antonio Gibson
Speaker 1: is a really good player. Um. But they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: one last week, all right? They did win the Raiders
Speaker 1: blew that game, uh in three different ways. I didn't
Speaker 1: think the Washington football team played that well in that
Speaker 1: guy game and got away with some things. I think
Speaker 1: the I think it ends here. The buckstops here is
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take control of the unbseased question for you,
Speaker 1: and I hate to keep doing this, but was it
Speaker 1: a nice story that they waxed the Buccaneers the team
Speaker 1: that we now call the team that will decide what
Speaker 1: we think of the Buffalo Bills. I'm just saying Washington
Speaker 1: is not something. This is not a flukey scenario. They
Speaker 1: they have shored things up. We've seen this under Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera before. The offense I think has gotten has grown
Speaker 1: as much as the up. No, I'm good with my
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm with you like, that's why
Speaker 1: it's it's like, well in the lock zone, Like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't stun me that Washington won this game because I
Speaker 1: think they've shown us who they are, which is a
Speaker 1: pretty close to average competitive team. I believe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are better than that. They to be fair, and we
Speaker 1: talked about it on Tuesday with Jane, they just haven't.
Speaker 1: They haven't shown it, not offensively. I think their defense
Speaker 1: has been pretty consistent in who they are that they're
Speaker 1: there's they're spunky, they're sparky, they're they're overachievers, they're they're fine.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the offense. It's Dak and in all
Speaker 1: the weapons actually that haven't been able to get into
Speaker 1: full flow, and that included in that Sades game that
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They had seven possessions, you know, Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: kept turning it back over. But I just believe in
Speaker 1: talent over the long run that it will come around
Speaker 1: there too. Towns well, and it's one of these things
Speaker 1: whenever they say like this this offense versus this surging defense,
Speaker 1: they match up really well. And the Cowboys have the
Speaker 1: second point most points per game in the league, the
Speaker 1: first in yardage and a lot of that is waited
Speaker 1: from earlier in the year when they weren't in this
Speaker 1: post Broncos slump. But it always favors the offense when
Speaker 1: that stuff happens. I don't love the matchup for Washington, um,
Speaker 1: and I will say that the Cowboys, And we talked
Speaker 1: about this with Jane, and I thought it was an
Speaker 1: interesting theory. Well, I don't know if it what it
Speaker 1: means ultimately, but um, he hasn't played that well since
Speaker 1: he came back from the calf. Jane said she wonders
Speaker 1: if there's some type of mental component to it, the
Speaker 1: calf injury, the leg injury last year, that he's not
Speaker 1: trusting his body in the same way and that might
Speaker 1: be affecting his play. I don't know, but he has
Speaker 1: not been as good. They need Dak to really uh
Speaker 1: light him up. He's been so different too. He he's
Speaker 1: at Sally, I think made more big time throws in
Speaker 1: the last two games than any two games stretch off season,
Speaker 1: like more like, oh my god throws. But he hasn't
Speaker 1: been doing this stuff where he like reads everything and
Speaker 1: knows what's going on, and he hasn't looked like poise
Speaker 1: they're comfortable. It's like the total opposite of how he started.
Speaker 1: Left the Saints hanging around of that game and a
Speaker 1: lot of it. Alright, let's take a break and then
Speaker 1: we will move up. All right, we're back Mark, It
Speaker 1: is back to you, buddy. Well, I'm gonna pick a
Speaker 1: late afternoon game here. I'm gonna go Giants at Chargers. Um,
Speaker 1: based entirely on my interest in the Chargers, based not
Speaker 1: on any level in my interests of the Giants. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we're back here again, though with Corona. Because Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: who is vaccinated has COVID, has a chance to play.
Speaker 1: It sounds like that he that he probably will because
Speaker 1: the five day window started on Monday. Mike Williams was
Speaker 1: he has though, well he's been. He's in that COVID
Speaker 1: world where we don't know, I don't know. Like Williams
Speaker 1: was a close contact, he's not vaccinated. They still say
Speaker 1: he has a chance to play based on when it
Speaker 1: all occurred. Chris Harris on the defense also was a
Speaker 1: close contact. So if you lose, if you ever weren't
Speaker 1: with Williams or Keenan Allen, which I think they will be, UM,
Speaker 1: it would kind of unspool everything that we saw Herbert
Speaker 1: and Mike Williams achieved last week, which was a long
Speaker 1: awaited deep shots down field that took some of this
Speaker 1: heat off of Joe Lombardi. Um. On the giant side,
Speaker 1: it sounds like Daniel Jones has a chance to play
Speaker 1: on where we are here on Thursday. Um, Mike Glennan
Speaker 1: has a concussion at this point if he couldn't go.
Speaker 1: Jake from State Farm, I guess is like the third
Speaker 1: guy mix. I mean, I'm with you the dream and
Speaker 1: are a conversation for the offseason at this point. I
Speaker 1: think with the with the Chargers, it's like, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: let us know, like handle your business back to us, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, after this Sunday of games and let us
Speaker 1: know if we should take you seriously because they could
Speaker 1: be a disruptor in the a f C. They could
Speaker 1: be a team it comes up, goes from being an
Speaker 1: inconsistent up and down entity to bang, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're playing the a f C title game. They have
Speaker 1: that type of ceiling, but you need to see that consistency,
Speaker 1: you got it. They need to do with the Cults
Speaker 1: of Mastered, which is oh you're giving us a layup
Speaker 1: on the schedule. We're gonna slam that mother down, gonna
Speaker 1: handle it. We are gonna take care of business. I
Speaker 1: loved what I saw out of their defensive line last week.
Speaker 1: It was by far their best defensive line performance of
Speaker 1: the year. It kind of came out of nowhere. Bosta
Speaker 1: wasn't even on the field. Uh. They've also been a
Speaker 1: good run defense since thereby, like that idea that that's
Speaker 1: their huge weakness isn't borne out by stats or the
Speaker 1: eye tests. For about five weeks now, they've kind of
Speaker 1: solved that, so you see some things coming around. Mike
Speaker 1: Williams is loosely expected to play because he's the close
Speaker 1: contact Keenan Allen. Yeah, would have to pass the test
Speaker 1: as much as people got on Rogers for being unvaccinated. Like,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anyone get COVID on a Monday and
Speaker 1: play on a Sunday. I've been watching this, so it's
Speaker 1: unlikely it's possible. But the timing, because everyone makes this
Speaker 1: huge deal, it's like, well, then you're gonna at least
Speaker 1: be out a week if you're show me the vaccinated
Speaker 1: guys that are testing negative just five days later, it's
Speaker 1: hard to do. Like it's the optimism on the on
Speaker 1: these reports through me because right it's it's so a
Speaker 1: typical Mike Williams should be back because he's a close
Speaker 1: content and Chris Harris. I know we don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about the Giants, but this no Giants running back
Speaker 1: or wide receivers scored a touchdown since October. It does
Speaker 1: not speak to the talent. It speaks that they have
Speaker 1: had zero availability of the roster. It costs their offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator getting fired. It's just like this Giant's team needs
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, and they got a joe. They
Speaker 1: got a coach afraid of his own shadow, calling punts
Speaker 1: while he's down four in the opposing territory. Mike Glennon
Speaker 1: on your quarterback, Jake from give me a promote this
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. I am up a spot here,
Speaker 1: you guys, bang me in the biggest of all spots. Um,
Speaker 1: I will grab the Raiders at Chiefs in the early window.
Speaker 1: Puts me in a tough situation with the Jets, but
Speaker 1: I'll live with it. Um, all right, same thing with Raiders.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Raiders are. I think the
Speaker 1: Raiders are and also ran. Ultimately, I'm not um. I've
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I've seen enough of them,
Speaker 1: uh to know that how this is gonna end, It's
Speaker 1: gonna end in a little bit of disappointment. Eight nine,
Speaker 1: nine and eight. So what what interests me more? And
Speaker 1: I could be wrong because everyone's been wrong all season one?
Speaker 1: Maybe the Raiders rise up, maybe the starting here, they
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead, then they go to Cleveland
Speaker 1: and win, and then they win at Denver in their
Speaker 1: nine and six or two weeks ago. Maybe that happens.
Speaker 1: Probably not, though I think the Chiefs again, with their
Speaker 1: defense playing as well as it has and with the
Speaker 1: Raiders accepting the one game on Thanksgiving Night, that offense
Speaker 1: has been as bad as it's been, We're gonna get
Speaker 1: another one of these twenty two to nine wins for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs because I am out and I am out
Speaker 1: of the business finally, effectively, uh, Sunday night of saying
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are gonna come around on offense,
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. It's not. But when they
Speaker 1: play the Raiders. That was the one game that was
Speaker 1: the forty bomber, uh that everyone was like everything solved,
Speaker 1: but No, it's like, actually, you just for playing the
Speaker 1: Raiders and that matchup work for you. But maybe it'll
Speaker 1: work again. Maybe, But it just there's it's not a
Speaker 1: slump anymore. It's something systemically wrong with what they're doing,
Speaker 1: or it's a personnel or whatever it is. I think
Speaker 1: it's more likely at this point that this is something
Speaker 1: they could fix in the off season. That's something they
Speaker 1: could fix in December and January. That's just that's where
Speaker 1: I'm at. But and that's why the defense, as good
Speaker 1: as it's been, they strike me as a team that
Speaker 1: is going to get picked off in January and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be seen as a big upset. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, now now it's come down to Steve Spags
Speaker 1: having a bad day at the office to save the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think that's the more likely destination. So yes, I
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs this week. I like them in another
Speaker 1: low scoring win where the defense carries the day and
Speaker 1: Mahomes does just enough. But I think the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: major issues. Do you like them by nine and a
Speaker 1: half points? This was one of the toughest games I
Speaker 1: thought to pick against the Spirit. It's gonna be right there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be that's how they get you. I think
Speaker 1: they can solve their problems this season because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it is on Patrick Mahomes. It's he's
Speaker 1: just not as accurate, Like I think there are plays
Speaker 1: there to be made. He's a lot of the interceptions
Speaker 1: have been bad luck and everything. But he also just
Speaker 1: is missing a lot of throws. Like if you look
Speaker 1: at him and Stafford, I think are very similar in
Speaker 1: that if you look at their like on target throw
Speaker 1: rate that like PFF does in terms of putting the
Speaker 1: ball in the right spot, there was a ball location
Speaker 1: like they just they've just been missing a lot of
Speaker 1: throws and that's hasn't been the case with Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: don't know why that is, and I think it can change.
Speaker 1: I would. I just I've seen too much good play
Speaker 1: out of him. I can't imagine that Andy Reid just
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to coach offensive football and they don't
Speaker 1: have the right player. It's not that Andy is no
Speaker 1: longer a good coaching and Mahomes is no longer the
Speaker 1: most talented quarterback of his generation. There's something that's just
Speaker 1: something in the mix here that's beyond like a body
Speaker 1: switch comedy and now it's rich co type coaching and
Speaker 1: Ken O'Brien a quarterback, Like something else is going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, before I knew you, guys, I was stuck
Speaker 1: in these like laundry list of terrible corporate jobs. And
Speaker 1: one Christmas they gave us as a gift. You're welcome
Speaker 1: by this. We saved from that. That's true. I was
Speaker 1: hired before you and taught you how to use the
Speaker 1: you know, the theater system. But I will, I'll look
Speaker 1: at it that way. But it's just Jim Ryan and
Speaker 1: a good day in New York YouTube video. Well I'm
Speaker 1: not your boss anymore. That's more. But that they gave
Speaker 1: us this book, that hideous corporate book, Good Too Great,
Speaker 1: which I threw right in a trash can. But I
Speaker 1: think the chiefs are more authoring, like a sequel that
Speaker 1: I think more people can relate to, which is like
Speaker 1: great too Good, Like they that's what they are this year.
Speaker 1: It's fine. And like if you look at even some
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks, and I think Mahomes came out
Speaker 1: like such a fireball. And it's the way he plays,
Speaker 1: uh you know that, you know it's not the same
Speaker 1: throw every time he does things that are special, that are,
Speaker 1: you know, visually off the charts. But every quarterback has
Speaker 1: these seasons where after a couple of great years, they
Speaker 1: regress a little bit. And I think that the function
Speaker 1: of the whole offense is part of it. And you
Speaker 1: look at Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey's numbers, it's just
Speaker 1: we just assume that they're off too, Like they're still
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill's numbers are still incredible compared to other wideouts
Speaker 1: in the league and stuff. They just don't seem to
Speaker 1: have that special sauce this year. And I think it's
Speaker 1: just who I mean, well, I guess, like I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: I think it's just not very much physically, I think slightly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think that we're like and Dan, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to hear you say that you've gotten off this train
Speaker 1: because we could all be wrong, like that's pretty much
Speaker 1: of what we do. But like, I'm not waiting around
Speaker 1: for them to be the Chief's offense from two years ago.
Speaker 1: And I don't see it. I think the Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: who are trying to make the point, like if the
Speaker 1: Patriots have this run or the Ravens have this run
Speaker 1: with these scores like no one's complaining about the style
Speaker 1: points that there is something too everyone's complaining. That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, if it was those teams winning with
Speaker 1: those scores, no one would be plaining about the Patriots
Speaker 1: or the Ravens. And yet because it's the Chiefs, everyone's complaining.
Speaker 1: They do get some credit for the institutional value of
Speaker 1: like we know how to win games, like we win
Speaker 1: more than everyone else. For for the Bills and the
Speaker 1: Browns and these teams that don't know how to stack
Speaker 1: year after year, Well here we are the Chiefs, you know,
Speaker 1: tied for the best record one half game behind in
Speaker 1: the A f C for the fourth straight year. Now
Speaker 1: they're doing it in a different way, but they do
Speaker 1: get a little credit here where it's it's all the
Speaker 1: same people running the ship that have gotten them to
Speaker 1: eight and four problem in a in a really blase
Speaker 1: Um low grade a f C. Yes, right, but they
Speaker 1: beat They beat the Packers and granted Jordan left that
Speaker 1: one didn't kind of count, but they beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They've had And a point that you made Tuesday, or
Speaker 1: I guess the Monday Night Football Crew made Tuesday about
Speaker 1: the Patriots was like, oh, the only difference between this
Speaker 1: year and last year is they have better players now.
Speaker 1: It's also the a f C is worse this year
Speaker 1: than it was last year, right, so that really has
Speaker 1: helped the team like the Patriots and a team like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, who I think because the a f C
Speaker 1: has been what it is, have been able to win
Speaker 1: eight of twelve despite having major offensive issues. And by
Speaker 1: the way, there's one thing some chaos. One thing that
Speaker 1: I want to be wrong about is the Chief's offense
Speaker 1: and and then turning it on because the league is
Speaker 1: just more fun when mahomes greatness is on display, uh
Speaker 1: in a really um profound way. So maybe it happens,
Speaker 1: but there's just so much evidence now that it won't.
Speaker 1: All Right, I feel like an anarchists, but I kind
Speaker 1: of like, what's I kind of like him not being
Speaker 1: like the centerpiece every week? How about when we were
Speaker 1: watching Sunday Night football and we're board to tears, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was more it was much more boyd with
Speaker 1: the team they were playing, which we'll get to at
Speaker 1: some point in this show, I know, but the fact
Speaker 1: that we're board watching the Chiefs side come home. So
Speaker 1: what I hear when I hear like the league is
Speaker 1: just so much better when like the Cowboys are good,
Speaker 1: or the league so much better when fill in the
Speaker 1: blankets like I t I typically agree with like thirty
Speaker 1: of those, and I don't need the Chiefs to like
Speaker 1: go blow everyone out week after week and being hearing
Speaker 1: about Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey it's a little personal.
Speaker 1: I get it because you know it happened against the Browns,
Speaker 1: but beyond that, I simply don't. It doesn't make my
Speaker 1: life so much better. I, like other teams, was slow
Speaker 1: on the uptake on that one. I didn't really did.
Speaker 1: That is like, that is a piece of it. It
Speaker 1: is not the entire thing. All right, let's snake it
Speaker 1: and it's a little it's got now it's getting sloppy,
Speaker 1: so let's let's pick up the pace here. I will
Speaker 1: grab the Saints at Jets. Um. The Saints is for them,
Speaker 1: lose and see you next year. You could say it's
Speaker 1: already that place for them because they yeah, they've been
Speaker 1: so bad for a long stretch now, but yeah, one
Speaker 1: game out of five and seven and they're at the
Speaker 1: mental ends. But no one's scared to go and play
Speaker 1: the Jets and Jersey, so uh, this This profiles against
Speaker 1: the Jets defense that has been unbelievably poor. Like that's
Speaker 1: to me. People could say, what's the biggest disappointment about
Speaker 1: this latest poor Jet season? Is it Zach Wilson not
Speaker 1: really fulfilling promise early on? No, because I'm not totally
Speaker 1: surprised by that he considering where he came out of
Speaker 1: college and the fact that he's so raw. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens down the line. The Jets defense being the
Speaker 1: worst in football by a long shot, that was not expected,
Speaker 1: even after Carl Lawson went out with the injury and
Speaker 1: then eventually Marcus May. The fact that they are they
Speaker 1: would give up seven consecutive touchdown draw or scoring drives.
Speaker 1: To Gardner, means you that they would just get embarrassed
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football by the Colts in a way
Speaker 1: that was ungodly. Like, So, if Taysom Hills healthy enough
Speaker 1: to play at a strong level compared to what a
Speaker 1: skill set is, the Saints are gonna score a lot
Speaker 1: of points in this game. And it's going to be
Speaker 1: a Saint's romp because the Jets defense has reached the
Speaker 1: point where they do not compete, and you get Alvin
Speaker 1: are back expected to play. UH, mark Ingram is in
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan run the COVID list. Give me a break,
Speaker 1: This is like worse than last year, but the Jets
Speaker 1: third worst run defense dv o A wise, they've allowed
Speaker 1: a hundred yards on the ground twice all year, and hey,
Speaker 1: they have been utterly thrashed another weeks. So it's just
Speaker 1: with who the Saints have in the way they're built.
Speaker 1: It sets up well for New Orleans. Well, they're getting healthier,
Speaker 1: except for those COVID issues that would end UH consecutive
Speaker 1: start streak or game streak by Cam Jordan that I
Speaker 1: believe goes his entire career dates back to the late
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. Pretty pretty amazing for a defense eve end.
Speaker 1: I don't don't think he's ever missed a game. Taysom
Speaker 1: Hills practicing is expected to start. They're gonna get one
Speaker 1: of their two tackles back. It sounds like torn armstead.
Speaker 1: Ryan ramchucks still out of practice. The Jets are very
Speaker 1: banged up, actually missing UH quite a number of starters
Speaker 1: in practice, including both their top running backs have concussions
Speaker 1: and Elijah bore As a quad injury and as in practice.
Speaker 1: So it's a mess I was thinking, I was thinking right,
Speaker 1: I was thinking of Marcus Davenport's also back for the Saints.
Speaker 1: It's like with the Saints, it's often just like who's
Speaker 1: playing for this team. If enough people are playing, they're
Speaker 1: pretty darn competitive. And I think it's a very difficult
Speaker 1: matchup for um, your boy Zack Wilson. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: have his running game, it's very hard to run against
Speaker 1: the Saints, and he doesn't have Elijah More and Dennis
Speaker 1: Allen I think has done a great job this year,
Speaker 1: and I think is a particularly difficult guy to go
Speaker 1: up against for these young quarterbacks. Is they're just gonna
Speaker 1: send a lot at him. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: mentioned Corey Davis. He's out for them. Didn't He just
Speaker 1: had core surgery. Uh, he had a groin issue that
Speaker 1: got worse last week. And that is just like the
Speaker 1: Jets curse with these free agents. Every free agent they
Speaker 1: sign either plays well well below what they expected or
Speaker 1: they get hurt. It's just like a point where they're
Speaker 1: not having to make you know, splash free agency moves
Speaker 1: every year to like Corey Davis, isn't It was just
Speaker 1: like there are multiple splash people that have not worked out.
Speaker 1: Listening to this though, think like, no team is scoring
Speaker 1: a ton of points. I mean, we're not scoring a
Speaker 1: ton on any defense. I don't care how bad the
Speaker 1: Jets defense is. That's have you watched have you watched
Speaker 1: the Saints offense the last three weeks? It has been
Speaker 1: It's been a tough slog. Alright. I will say this, Um,
Speaker 1: the Saints struggle in the screen game within the post
Speaker 1: Drew Brees era uh with Tayson Milk. Just throw some
Speaker 1: screen passes down Camar and see what happens. This game
Speaker 1: is lockable. I thought about locking this up, but there's
Speaker 1: so many injuries. Yeah, I saw it too. I just don't.
Speaker 1: That's a gross move. I don't. Um. All right, let's
Speaker 1: now move on quickly. Mark, all right, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I need a nice early game to pair with that
Speaker 1: Bengals Niners dreamy affair. That is gonna be a romp,
Speaker 1: I hope, and it's going to be the Titans verse
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Um. This got on my radar. Jaguars wise
Speaker 1: number one to Julio Jones for the Titans. Sounds like
Speaker 1: he's back at practice. They'll get him back. That helps
Speaker 1: a little bit um for the Jaguars. Trevor Lawrence had
Speaker 1: to come out and say, we have that, actually, do
Speaker 1: you want to tee it up? And then well you've
Speaker 1: just teed it up. Trevor Lawrence that the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick who has struggled, uh to lead this offense
Speaker 1: two points this year. Um came out in the media.
Speaker 1: James Robinson, their best offensive player at running back, has
Speaker 1: been getting benched a ton this year for fumble issues.
Speaker 1: Although Carlos Hyde when he fumbles, he doesn't get better.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing and it speaks to maybe a
Speaker 1: bigger issue behind the scenes. This is what Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: said to the media this week. Um, I honestly don't
Speaker 1: even know everything that went into it. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: playing the game and stuff happens in the sideline with
Speaker 1: coaching decisions. I don't really get into that, but I
Speaker 1: know and I voiced my opinion. James is one of
Speaker 1: our best players and he's gonna be in the game,
Speaker 1: and I think we're all on the same page, so
Speaker 1: there's no confusion there. Um, So we're just gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna move forward. But I know James is the hell
Speaker 1: of a player, So I want him, I want him
Speaker 1: out there. And now there's a sparrow I talked to
Speaker 1: a sparrow said there might be some heat going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Well, um, there is some heat between
Speaker 1: Lawrence Anders coaching. Yes, yeah, and I think I think
Speaker 1: this is now coming and I and and also urban
Speaker 1: Meyer had to sit down and meet with James Robinson,
Speaker 1: and urban Meyer came out saying it was just such
Speaker 1: a fantastic meeting. Oh wow, like what a connection we made.
Speaker 1: I don't buy a word he says, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start doing that now all the time. It's like what
Speaker 1: he is. So it took. It took James Robinson very
Speaker 1: politely answering questions, going out of his way to try
Speaker 1: to not make it an issue during some radio appearance,
Speaker 1: uh where the guys were kind of peppering them on
Speaker 1: it and asking him about Erban Myke. It took that
Speaker 1: happening and then becoming a local story for urban Meyer
Speaker 1: then to set this meeting with his running back and
Speaker 1: then afterwards like I'm gonna change how I do everything
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start meeting with all my players weekly
Speaker 1: on the regular because this was so good, Like what
Speaker 1: is going on here. Um, it's a mess, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. And the Jaguars have a tricky situation on
Speaker 1: their hair hands financially there to say the least, the Titans,
Speaker 1: go win a game, Go win a football game. Go
Speaker 1: do it, Mike Frabel, your defense shut down the Jaguars
Speaker 1: who just want to go home during what's been a
Speaker 1: miserable year. And then if you do, it's five more games.
Speaker 1: You're nine and four and then you're in the mix
Speaker 1: in the a f C. The for the top seed
Speaker 1: is crazy as that sounds. And like one thing, when
Speaker 1: I was watching Monday Night Football and you're watching the
Speaker 1: Patriots bully the the Bills and the trenches, It's like,
Speaker 1: what's the team in the a f C that would
Speaker 1: be able to go punch for punch to the mouth
Speaker 1: with with the Patriots in January? It's the Titans. But
Speaker 1: they gotta get healthy and they got to survive this
Speaker 1: stretch of their schedule. Maybe the Colts. Maybe, maybe it's
Speaker 1: another one. Any other thoughts on this one, Mark, I
Speaker 1: know you've said it all, all right, Let's move on
Speaker 1: then to Greg closing out the draft. I am closing
Speaker 1: out the draft with a pick of a game this week.
Speaker 1: Let's go back up. Falcons Panthers is my last game.
Speaker 1: I know it's a sad state of affairs. Has there
Speaker 1: ever been a worse game just in terms of, like
Speaker 1: the the actual quality of the teams? That's on December
Speaker 1: twelve or later between two teams that are very much
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt because I know we don't believe
Speaker 1: in these teams, but I mean, outside of like five
Speaker 1: other games this week, but now, but not two teams
Speaker 1: this like this, The Falcons and the Panthers are seven
Speaker 1: and thirty second in overall d v o A, so
Speaker 1: that paints them as two of the worst five or
Speaker 1: six teams in the league. And the record still isn't
Speaker 1: that good, Like they don't deserve to be five and seven,
Speaker 1: but it's not a good record. But in the NFC
Speaker 1: this year, that's only one game out, So one of
Speaker 1: these teams is gonna have at least another week of
Speaker 1: a stay of execution. And I can't decide if I
Speaker 1: think like Cam Newton is just a little cooked or
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna have a chance in this game where
Speaker 1: the Panthers played bullyball the first time around, is a
Speaker 1: very memorable game. Uh to me, at least just they
Speaker 1: did the Patriots Bill's plan a little quieter. They ran
Speaker 1: at about forties seven times and let Sam Donald throw
Speaker 1: it uh in the teens uh and won that game
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and dominated the Falcons offensive line because when
Speaker 1: the Falcons play a team that has any pass rush,
Speaker 1: usually they think there are differences. Though, I mean the
Speaker 1: Panthers right now are like a bad psilocybin voyage. They
Speaker 1: just fired Joe Brady, who we went into this season
Speaker 1: calling one of the best play callers in the league,
Speaker 1: potentially a head coach candidate. I think Matt Rules. I
Speaker 1: thought Joe Brady what like what he He came in
Speaker 1: with as much acclaim from the college game as anyone
Speaker 1: in years, and there were sparks last year, but there
Speaker 1: were also Teddy Bridgewater issues saying that the you know,
Speaker 1: the red zone stuff. I mean Matt Rule basically said
Speaker 1: he wanted to get creative and do things differently, and
Speaker 1: he fires Joe Brady right now it's not working out.
Speaker 1: This has got to be one of the more disappointing
Speaker 1: teams around. To your point, Greg that like their record,
Speaker 1: the three and oh start feels like a thousand years
Speaker 1: ago at this point because the defense has been okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, the defense has let them down in spots,
Speaker 1: but they've been okay. Fire and Joe Brady on the
Speaker 1: Sunday during a bye week is a wild move. It
Speaker 1: really is Matt rule. I believe thinking if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go down, I'm gonna go down doing it my way.
Speaker 1: And ultimately I hired this guy didn't really know that
Speaker 1: well and he said that was the first time he
Speaker 1: did that, that he didn't regret it. It was like, actually, yes,
Speaker 1: you do regret it. That's that's what you do when
Speaker 1: you fire something like it. And yeah, to Mark's point,
Speaker 1: like the Broncos for instance, and I brought this up
Speaker 1: a couple times of the season. It feels like Broncos
Speaker 1: aren't having a great season. But when you start out
Speaker 1: three and oh, it allows you to stay afloat as
Speaker 1: long as you don't become pitiful. Immediately after the Panthers
Speaker 1: became pitiful. They've lost seven of nine since starting three
Speaker 1: and oh, hence their record five and seven. That's math
Speaker 1: nailed it. And they are now in a position where like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I might have to flip my pick for
Speaker 1: this game. I took the Panthers. But I think there's
Speaker 1: something about this Falcons team that they're like, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like seven and ten at the end, and they
Speaker 1: when they should have been too, and they've actually been
Speaker 1: an overachieving seven and ten. I wonder in the end
Speaker 1: rule to make kind of I don't know, some type
Speaker 1: of bold declaration here gives it to Chuba Hubbard thirty
Speaker 1: seven times in this game. Well, that's what they were
Speaker 1: starting to do, and then you lose Christian McCaffrey in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. By the way, Joe Brady put
Speaker 1: into a bit of a tough situation with the quarterback
Speaker 1: team building scenario. It's like you you, and Rule was
Speaker 1: like publicly saying it after certain games when their season
Speaker 1: started to spiral. It's like, we need to run the ball,
Speaker 1: and we're going to run the ball. Trust me, we're
Speaker 1: running the ball, which is basically, hey, offensive coordinator, listen
Speaker 1: to me. We need to run the ball. But it's
Speaker 1: like you're not mentioning that Christian McCaffrey's now missed two
Speaker 1: straight years, and it's like Cuba Hubbard and whoever the
Speaker 1: hell else is back there. It's like that's a tough
Speaker 1: situation to put an offensive coordinator. Absolutely, and yet the
Speaker 1: success of Jamaar Chase, Justin Jefferson and Joe Burrow in
Speaker 1: the pros should absolutely redistribute all the credit that Joe
Speaker 1: Brady was getting for historic LSU team for summer. We
Speaker 1: we love giving the coaches so much credit when it's
Speaker 1: mostly about the players. Those are two incredible players at
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the same college team at the height
Speaker 1: of their powers, quarterbacked by a number one overall draft
Speaker 1: pick who's gonna become a top ten NFL quarterback. Like
Speaker 1: I could have offensive coordinated that team to a pretty
Speaker 1: good record. Well, you could have gotten fired too. I
Speaker 1: think you know we all could have. I don't think
Speaker 1: we quite understand what I don't mean literally, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying if you just throw in your average college coaching
Speaker 1: Sam Donald for six weeks and see where we are pressing,
Speaker 1: I would I would delegate. I would delegate quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I think your average college coach at any level would
Speaker 1: have had great success with those three players. That is
Speaker 1: not a controver, just like slightly dismiss it, but it's
Speaker 1: players matter, Like what else you would matter is not
Speaker 1: a controversial, right concept. But like you've just taken the
Speaker 1: man's like resume and said he's a straw man. He
Speaker 1: was saying he got he got way be rated for that.
Speaker 1: And I refuse to defend the Jets on any level.
Speaker 1: Um how they've made organizational decisions. But the reason Matt
Speaker 1: Rule didn't take the Jet shop is because they didn't
Speaker 1: let him pick his own staff. And that's a ridiculous
Speaker 1: way to treat any candidates. Dan Is coming back and
Speaker 1: scoring a point in an argument a year ago where
Speaker 1: the Jets got a lot of grief for keeping Gayson
Speaker 1: going because of his lack of NFL experience. That was
Speaker 1: why they were that way. Joe Joe Brady led one
Speaker 1: of the great passing attacks ever and then Rule hired
Speaker 1: him to run a run based offense. It's it's an
Speaker 1: interesting decision. All right, we keep moving, but first a break.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back Seahawks of Texans. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: messing around. I'm telling you Bears and Packers will be
Speaker 1: the last game we talked about. Seahawks at Texans. Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams out for the year. Um, so you lose him,
Speaker 1: but you get the Texans their worst team in football
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this game. The only thing I had
Speaker 1: that caught my eye Texans wise this week was Nickissario,
Speaker 1: their general manager, at being asked about David Culley coming back,
Speaker 1: and he was like about as noncommittal as you can get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like Seattle, I mean you're gonna get Davis Mills
Speaker 1: for the for the Texans again. I mean, if you're Seattle,
Speaker 1: your season is over. In my book, that Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: thing is an exclamation point on a trade that went
Speaker 1: totally south for them as the organization starts to fade
Speaker 1: into the later years of an organization under Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: Wins for the Jets who have like a you know,
Speaker 1: winning percentage the last two years, but that ended up
Speaker 1: being the right move as well. Uh Joe Douglas from
Speaker 1: President it is a big day for you actually screen
Speaker 1: A lot of the Seahawks get another week of um
Speaker 1: like the slightest life if they win this game, because
Speaker 1: the second they won that game against the forty nine
Speaker 1: is not only did Pete Carroll give like an impassioned,
Speaker 1: like we're still live speech in the locker room where
Speaker 1: he looked like they had won the Super Bowl, all
Speaker 1: of Seahawks Twitter that I followed immediately made the corner
Speaker 1: too from the like, well, you never know, maybe we
Speaker 1: can go on this run here because eight and nine
Speaker 1: might for a decade. So for if you win this game,
Speaker 1: you get one more week of that before the Rams game,
Speaker 1: where you feel like, maybe we can make a run.
Speaker 1: What if the Rams get wiped out by the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and they're in a free fall. They didn't really look
Speaker 1: The Seahawks looked weird last week. I did not get
Speaker 1: the feeling that they solved their offensive problems, even though
Speaker 1: they did look good when they were up tempo. I
Speaker 1: kind of don't even trust them to like cover eight
Speaker 1: points against a sneaky first sexans the conversation over. That's right,
Speaker 1: So let's move on the Lions at Broncos. Greg, give
Speaker 1: me something another one where it's very tough. Do you
Speaker 1: really trust the Broncos to cover eight against an NFL team?
Speaker 1: I don't. They've done it how many times this year? Twice?
Speaker 1: Notice how Greg defaults to a betting program whenever you
Speaker 1: just throw it to them open ended. Well, because that's
Speaker 1: I gotta make the picks on NFL dot Com slash
Speaker 1: game picks, and I really only care about the A T. S.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's what keeps me up at night.
Speaker 1: It's not the I mean, I'm gonna pick the Broncos
Speaker 1: to win this game. I don't trust them to make
Speaker 1: it a blow out necessarily. They've won four or five
Speaker 1: blow out games weirdly, actually, if the first three weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, like the Cowboys, the Chargers very recently,
Speaker 1: so like that. Those are teams with winning records, so
Speaker 1: it happens. Uh And yet the Lions actually, if you
Speaker 1: look at since the bye week, they I don't think
Speaker 1: they've given up more than twenty points. They've been in
Speaker 1: every single game until the final play, so they could
Speaker 1: be better than one ten and one. Uh. Here lately
Speaker 1: Jared goff mc miss practice with an illness. That would
Speaker 1: change things obviously if he was at all right. They
Speaker 1: beat the Giants, Jaguars and Jets and those blowouts so
Speaker 1: and Cowboys and the Chargers two of the last four weeks.
Speaker 1: I think we effectively unless they want to really do
Speaker 1: like the you know, the villain and a horror movie
Speaker 1: thing and come back to life. The Broncos essentially were
Speaker 1: put under on Sunday, right, But I get it all
Speaker 1: I was saying is they're capable of blots. They have
Speaker 1: blown out more good team then many teams with winning
Speaker 1: records this year, right, I mean, it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: We do not want the Denver Broncos in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be seven and six if they win this game.
Speaker 1: We don't any they could lose. We don't want to
Speaker 1: waste the Saturday playoff game the Lions. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Vick Fongio you could be saying goodbye sooner than expected. Finally, last,
Speaker 1: but least, the Chicago Bears are playing Sunday night football
Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. Not flexed. Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: a big ticket item. The Packers are a big ticket item.
Speaker 1: They have a major um pop obviously nationally as well
Speaker 1: as regionally, and they have a chance now to move
Speaker 1: to ten and three and really put the pressure. Uh
Speaker 1: So they play Sunday night. The Cards play Monday night.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna destroy the Bears. Let's be honest here,
Speaker 1: They'll win about thirty seven to ten. We'll have to
Speaker 1: sit through the game for three and a half hours.
Speaker 1: Fields is returning great, and then the Cardinals will go
Speaker 1: play the Ams. A feisty uh Rams team that needs
Speaker 1: a win, knowing that the Packers will be not just
Speaker 1: tied with them for the number one seed, but if
Speaker 1: the Cardinals lost, it is the Packers that are the
Speaker 1: number one seed because they have the head to head
Speaker 1: tiebreaker with four games to play, so the stakes are high. Packers,
Speaker 1: of course, have to take care business first. I see
Speaker 1: our fandom, um a four in a road there in
Speaker 1: our fandom. I am very excited about the Cardinals. You
Speaker 1: have a Packers fetish that is raging not too far
Speaker 1: below the surface. I like, I like watch see the difference.
Speaker 1: Like the Packers are what the Chiefs used to be,
Speaker 1: Like a fun offensive attack playing for an old school
Speaker 1: franchise with a lot of history and then a historic
Speaker 1: quarterback Like I like that stuff. Like as a Jets van,
Speaker 1: I don't get any of that stuff, so if I
Speaker 1: could find it elsewhere, I'll take it, put it into
Speaker 1: my vein. And like Arizona, I think a very balanced
Speaker 1: team and I find them much more likable because the
Speaker 1: defense isn't hanging them out to dry week to week mvs.
Speaker 1: Last couple of games, nineteen targets. I mean there, I
Speaker 1: trust them to take care of business. I don't even
Speaker 1: to think about it. They're gonna watch I'm with you,
Speaker 1: And yet I was thinking, Okay, they're gonna come back
Speaker 1: from the by and it's like, when are we gonna
Speaker 1: start getting this mythical Packers team with bak tr and
Speaker 1: Alexander at cornerback and then Zadarius Smith. It's like they're
Speaker 1: still not back. Uh. Aaron Rodgers still not practicing and
Speaker 1: says he feels a lot better. That's good, but still
Speaker 1: not practicing. Randall Cobb actually has a new injury and
Speaker 1: he is officially out for this game. Uh. Not that
Speaker 1: not that he's like, but he is. He's not the
Speaker 1: biggest baron Aaron Rodgers. But when you look at like
Speaker 1: the receivers with the most red zone targets, there's some
Speaker 1: type of stat where he is with like five of
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the league, and then Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: I wish I had the staff, but just to paint
Speaker 1: a picture that Aaron Rodgers makes it a point to
Speaker 1: make sure Randall that's his you know, executive of the year.
Speaker 1: He Aaron Rodgers. But but Cobb had a great game
Speaker 1: when he got before I got injured. I believe in
Speaker 1: this running game though, and I the reason I am
Speaker 1: with Dan like I love watching this team every week
Speaker 1: now is because of the Aaron Rodgers thing. He played
Speaker 1: his best two games of the season. I thought, by
Speaker 1: far in a row before that, by so I want
Speaker 1: to see if that keeps going. I am happy that
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is back, Justin Fields is back, an achiem
Speaker 1: Hicks is back. There's been so many of these Sunday
Speaker 1: night Bears Packers games, and none of them I feel
Speaker 1: like they have been good. Give me a good one.
Speaker 1: And you were in London when I was. As much
Speaker 1: as I like the Packers, I want to see Justin
Speaker 1: Fields put thirty up on them, just to haven't I
Speaker 1: get it? Like the Midwest deserves these, like old school
Speaker 1: rivalries in a big spot. I just wish the Bears
Speaker 1: would and I could have flexed this. That's I think
Speaker 1: why there was anything. It was fair that it's a
Speaker 1: good it's a good ratings game. We love the Midwest.
Speaker 1: We love you guys, great people, very nice, very nice.
Speaker 1: Um spot. I have a lot of family in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Do you know the interesting mom said um before? Because Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you got you were itching a little bit there.
Speaker 1: What does the Rainmaker lock of the week this week
Speaker 1: the rain Maker. But you can't just call for that,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm not you know, throwing it out
Speaker 1: there so it's not official, doesn't look better glasses. This
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Well what is it? What's the game? You
Speaker 1: feel the most confident? Yeah? No, I was trying to
Speaker 1: look to see it and it wasn't popping off the
Speaker 1: top of my head. You know, Greg, I listened to
Speaker 1: these gambling shows on Saturday on AM Radio. Well they're
Speaker 1: coming with changing some fires. You have a little more
Speaker 1: to build confidence in the potential. If I had, I
Speaker 1: would have thrown it out as a thing there was.
Speaker 1: It might be Cowboys. I think it might be. I
Speaker 1: think I might be covering the Cowboys. That's the Rainmaker
Speaker 1: lock of the Week. No, I don't feel that strong.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not selling the brand I do. Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, if that Jake from Game gets to uh
Speaker 1: Sunday here nine and a half, I don't think you
Speaker 1: could make that line big enough. They're the giants. There
Speaker 1: you go, there's another one. I think we need to.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna workshop this and it would be
Speaker 1: good to end every Thursday show with the Rainmaker Lock
Speaker 1: of the Week, right, catching you off guard might not
Speaker 1: have been. We get a sponsor for it, you know,
Speaker 1: we see like the McAfee thing, like he just pulled
Speaker 1: that deal. If we can get the sponsorship, you know,
Speaker 1: Draft Kings presents the Rainmaker Lock of the Week, like
Speaker 1: we're rolling in it. They'd give us three uncertain um
Speaker 1: all right, Like Adam Shine by the way, I was
Speaker 1: listening to Serious yesterday, uh waiting for that to do
Speaker 1: that appearance thing, and Adam Shine they throw it to
Speaker 1: him and it's like a nice sixty second nugget. I'm
Speaker 1: Adam Shine. I've been doing this for seventeen years. I've
Speaker 1: been picking a lock and it never goes wrong. And
Speaker 1: this week I'm banging and needed like a college game.
Speaker 1: I think, like that's what we need. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: you were caught off guard. I defend you on that
Speaker 1: because I'm ranking. Um, I don't know. I don't do
Speaker 1: like Marx Lock of the Cardinals. By the way, quite
Speaker 1: a bit too, that come off as me being critical,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying I smell a hit here
Speaker 1: and maybe next week next I mean, or you could
Speaker 1: look at it the other way, which is that rate.
Speaker 1: The rainmaker bit has been gone for a couple of
Speaker 1: years now. Basically, I'm making the choice each and every
Speaker 1: week to not do it. So that's a conscious choice.
Speaker 1: Just threw her hands up behind the glass. That's that's
Speaker 1: a tough setch. I thought it was good, but all right,
Speaker 1: Gregg decided it should be over. That's you love it,
Speaker 1: you do it. You do it when you feel it,
Speaker 1: when you feel it in your bones. Welcome to life.
Speaker 1: Here we go. That is the week fourteen slate. Uh
Speaker 1: tonight Thursday Night, Steelers Vikings, Me and the Quiet Story.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that one on Friday mornings. I
Speaker 1: always try to listen to that TNF recap on my
Speaker 1: drive in Marker. Not every week, but I do a
Speaker 1: lot of times. Me Mark Seessler Pete Jorn will be
Speaker 1: on the mic to talk Thursday night football recap Steelers Vikings.
Speaker 1: Get get excited. You're you're looking at me. I am
Speaker 1: mildly excited to be It's kind of a fun one.
Speaker 1: I suspect you guys are gonna get a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about. That's my prediction. I'm in all right, Ricky,
Speaker 1: let's go. H It really does look like an accounting
Speaker 1: the rain Lager bid is such a great way to
Speaker 1: close this Thursday show, Just think about it. Sure, but
Speaker 1: you could have done this off the air. The call