1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. It is at all from 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I'm 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Dan Hanzas joined by some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Boys Week fourteen. Here we go, we fly in Now. 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: It's it's entering into that middle of December, and I 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: know there's an extra week this year, so season not 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: actually over till January nine. The regular season is that 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: kind of crazy? Football is family football. His family football 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: was family and then they added another week to the season. 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: They don't use that anymore. They were like, we had 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: to give up something the family at the beginning of 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: the season. But yeah, the eighteenth week is actually just 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: like a neighbor that was just you invite him over, 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: fight or over. But yeah, not family. Remember they announced 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the extra game added and they said this season is 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest season. Yeah. What came in 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: second is football was family? Well yeah, I mean they're like, 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: what should we go, Let's let's keep positive. The first 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: ad campaign just creates anxiety in me. I don't need 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: everything with the NFL to always be bigger, more balloon 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: like family. I mean, at this point, what I am 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: trying to insist that during like my kids TV time, 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that Walker stopped rewatching the two thousand twelve NFL season, 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: and yet that's just what he's doing. He was. I 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: was just like, oh, you just enjoyed that Bears Bengals 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Week two games from Yes, but directly you directly created 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: that issue in your house. Uh. Today's Thursday Tuesday night 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: was the holiday party. Um, that was a fun time. 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: I came up with like a best of the holiday 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: party before we get into all the game, uh four 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: teen games. We're gonna obviously go through each game, break 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: it down, but a good time was had. The holiday 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: party was held at Sophi Stadium, which was interesting. I've 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: never been to a holiday party where I needed to 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: go through a metal detector uh to enter the premises. 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: But you know, it is what it is all right here. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: It is the best of It's kind of a countdown. Um, 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: let's start with Erica number seven. Erica tam pose. She 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: had a little side hustle going on at the open bar. 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Okay she Erica because we all got to drink tickets. 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Erica at a certain point ran out of her drink tickets. 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: You might be surprised to learn this very quickly. Uh, 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: and Ricky, what did you do there? I really like this. 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: This is yeah, I mean, you're you're putting it all 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: on me. I think there was some other people were 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: involved as well, the shadow elite figures that are listening. Um, 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think to drink tickets, but then you 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: couldn't pay cash. They the bar was it so not 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: only do you I mean, very nice party, but only 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: only two drinks and then you can't by the drinks. Now, 51 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I were trying to shut it down, right, So I 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: went up and I said, hey, hey, Daisy, looked name. 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: You got Vemo. She's venmoing the woman to give her 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a little side juice. And at one point, twenty dollar 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: bills slip between two drink tickets. I was asked to 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: handle that business. It was corrupt, is what I'm saying. 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: But I'm not called tipping. I mean that makes that 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world, smart thinking. All right, 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: how about this, speaking of drink tickets number six, Greg 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Rosenthal's drink ticket debacle. Listen to this, Sessler. I just 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: learned about this yesterday. Laying on me. So you get 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: to drink tickets per person, it's a plus one event, 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Greg brings his wonderful wife, Emmica. Emmca is not a 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: drinker or wasn't a drinker. On Tuesday Night, Greg declines 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: her drink tickets. That is what I heard from Assars. Now, 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: when you could have easily handed out those two drink tickets, 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you decline them. No, no counterpoint. No one declined. We 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: didn't even realize until she walked in, so they'd ever 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: offered it to her because she would have taken them, 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: and they didn't offer it to me. We were we 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: were separating the line, but we didn't have him. I 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: promise you that is so just weird, you know what 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean? Does that make sense? You'd almost like the video, 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: like the bank robbery video, to go back and look 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: in the scene and just see what Actually he definitely 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: would never have declined it because because I, like I 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: only used one of my to drink tickets, immediately gave 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: it away to something to say you're happy to give away, 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and you could have given away three though. You could 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: have been like, hey, do you have your drink tickets? 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: I'll give them away. It's like it reminds me of 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the manscaping incident where Ricky brought in the Manscaper, and 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: then Greg casually mentioned he has them piling up in 84 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: his house and has never shared any of his manscaping 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: equipment from the RJV. We're enthusiastic about the product, so 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad. I would not have thought it 87 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: was be interested if we had the option, There's no 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: way we would have turned in. How about this um 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: jet your girlfriend, Ricky, she gotta kick out of me. 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: I had a couple of pops, you know, as I 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: was leaving the party, screaming at the top of my lungs, 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: the fugitive line, I didn't kill my wife. Definitely something 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: you do around well, to the point where your wife 94 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Emily kept having a turnaround being like, I'm alive, I 95 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: am well, but I didn't remember this. But I wake 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: up in the morning and Jett is going, do you 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: remember Dan? And then she was trying to do your 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: deep voice and screaming. It very funny. It's also it's 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of a take on a theme of Dan's I 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: feel like when we go out, which it just often 101 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: involves murdered murder. You were correct? Uh Number four Mark's 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: annual Irish goodbye. You gotta enjoy that market. You could 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: counter Mark to disappear at this event, and everybody looks 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: around marksman gone for an hour and a half. Well whole. 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: I think in the past I've stayed till the end 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: at times. UM. That was not that. I don't know 107 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: what happens to me at this party. I got we 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: had a great time at Dan's house, got to the place. UM, 109 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I left with one drink ticket in my in my 110 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: jacket pocket, which is usual. I mean I used then 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: I was going to try to give it to someone. 112 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: It was like, just get me out of here, and 113 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: so I went home. You didn't see one person when 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: you were exiting that were like they were like, hey, 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: well know when I didn't realize util the was the 116 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: ticket and you're here was a large man with a 117 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: bald head. I felt it would be a weird thing 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: for me to go to approach him. Hey, listen, I'm 119 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: not looking across probably the mark. But that's worse than Greg, 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: did you know. I will own it. I will own 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: it as a as a terrible maneuver on my part. 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: All right, how about this? This was after the after 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: the party, there was an after party at the Cozy 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: Throwback UM, and it was a smaller gathering. I wasn't there, 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: but Colleen and Lakisha were a Devil's Perch mark, our 126 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: famous spot. We sat many a night with Chris Devil's 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: Perch at the Cozy and Culver City and they put 128 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: together a video and can we play some of that? 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: Ricky all of it? I didn't think about that, and 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: the life was sparkful. Santa. That was an earnest shout 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: out to Santa Claus. I think she still believes um 132 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: fully in the in that individual. I was like listening 133 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: to that. It's it was pretty rare to catch, like 134 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: the moment that the gummy hits allegedly. Um. I wasn't there, 135 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: by the way, because I had to get up early 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to do the Pat McAfee show. I like that number 137 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: one and let's start ranking the mothers. He signed a 138 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Did you see that in the news? 139 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: He did? He did? That's interesting, well others did not. 140 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him. Yeah, well it's something, you know, 141 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on the business aspect 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: of what we do. Um. All right, Uh, what was that? 143 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: By the way? Was that was that fun to do? 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: That was great? McAfee and the and his guys there. 145 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: It's very chill, laid back atmosphere, and we had a 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: fun talk. Yeah, he asked, but no one had ever 147 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: asked like the process of the power ranking. So I 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: kind of explained how we did it. I mentioned our show, 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that we get together and watch the end of 150 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football together, and that's when I start formulating it. 151 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: And it's what did you say our names? I don't 152 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: know if Greg and Mark came up, but the Around 153 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast does that count? I don't think it works, 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: but I appreciate it. Probably would have been too niche 155 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: to get into that. I understand um number two and 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I feel like this should be number one. But they 157 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: let everybody on the field and uh I kicked the 158 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: twenty five yard field goal. That was impressive. There's video evidence. 159 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: You told me that, and I have no like smartass 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: comment for it. I'm just like, good job. It wasn't 161 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't been able to do it. Kicks for you. It 162 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: hit the net, though it didn't sneak over. The hit 163 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the bottom of the net, so it got over. If 164 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: they were six, If Klais Campbell was in front of you, 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: he might have been able to black it, but it 166 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: did get over and he made your one for one 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: from twenty five, which is better than the Jets kicker 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: last week. Extremely impressive. Oh my god, that Jets kicker. 169 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: And the number one moment of the holiday party, um 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: behind Ricky right now is the grave Digger. And we 171 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: love the grave Digger because he's so hot right now, 172 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: so hot right now. He's got so many things, because 173 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: he's got such a bright future. I was told he 174 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: was at the party again a plus one, uh, grave 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: digger on the on his arm. Very beautiful woman, uh, 176 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: I was told via a source. And now we're going 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: to get the info that he had brought a married woman. 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Was not your and it was not his wife. Now 179 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: we throw it to Justin. Justin on your arm, a 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: beautiful married woman. Yes, So what's that about? Well, you know, 181 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: we've been just hanging out a little bit. It's nothing 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: go on. It's like taking a while for her marriage 183 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: to dissolve, or it's just open um. Yeah, you know, 184 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: things are like fluid. Yeah, fluid, that's a great word 185 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: for it. And she's not gonna listen. Do you do 186 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: you know who she's married too? Or is it? Yes? 187 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Interesting you might want to know comment this. Yeah, you 188 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: mean you're you're. The way that you handle this is 189 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: sort of part of the it's problematic the way you 190 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: just handled this whole thing. I think I don't think 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: so mean he handled it and I love it. I 192 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: just think it answers no questions for anyone that knows him. 193 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: That is sort of intentional. Yes, okay, so that's why 194 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about great things, very juicy property. It is 195 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: new playoff music there again here that was did you met? 196 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: You met the woman? Did? She's very nice? Absolutely, But 197 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: again I'd like to see more surveillance footage of the 198 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: whole you know, what is it in century? I would 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: never do anything to violate a marriage. We're just hanging 200 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: out friends for now, just friends. Very hazy. Hazy's fine. 201 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you've left it in the Hey, it's 202 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: not my wife. I think it's it's a plus to you. Yeah, 203 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll keep you updated, please do Dad has never been 204 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: that's a number one. That's a number one. All right, 205 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna keep tabs on that situation that 206 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: could be central to our show. The NFL Network insider 207 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: Dan Hands, I didn't know that. Um, alright, let's get 208 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: into the games now without further Like, the audience just 209 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: skipped the first ten minutes of the program and that's fine. 210 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: We don't have an issue with that. But now we're 211 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk football. Let's get into it. We'll start with 212 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the primetime games, then hit the draft. Um you know 213 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: what added, No, I'm not giving Sunday Night Football the 214 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: respect of being on the top of the show as 215 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: a punishment to our league and the suits for keeping 216 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at four and eight without a pulse 217 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: in prime time just because Aaron Rodgers is a COVID warrior. Um, 218 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. They're going to the bottom of 219 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: the show. Let's move to Monday Night Football, Rams at 220 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: Cardinals from State Farm Stadium. Now it's a football game. 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: You want to start a show. You started the right way. 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: I go on Pat McAfee once and now he talked like, 223 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, get my persona back. You're Brian Kelly to 224 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Sun Degree. Let's get into it. The Rams are eating 225 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: for the Rams. The Rams snapped a ugly losing streak, 226 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: but it was against the Jaguars and a game, by 227 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the way, they didn't play that well in the first half. 228 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: It was a close game, and then they pulled away, 229 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: took care of business. They got they got to eight 230 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: and four. And now if they harbor any intentions of 231 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: winning the NFC West, And how crazy is it, Greggy 232 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: that on December, I'm about to say this, if they 233 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: have any chance to catch the Cardinals in the NFC West, 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: they need to beat the tenant two Cards on the road. 235 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: How do you feel about this one? I feel like 236 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals team that showed up all season shows up, 237 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: they're probably winning. Like this is the fork in the 238 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: road game, as we sometimes like to the Rams at 239 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: some point, a little bit of a crossroads game. The 240 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Rams at some point, if they want to be the 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: team that they say they want to be, like, they 242 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: have to show it, and they haven't not since Week three, 243 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: really against that Bucks game, and if you think about 244 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: the very next week, the Cardinals come in and and 245 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: handle them. That basically started this stretch for the Rams 246 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: where they just don't look as complete and I think 247 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: they have the pieces to do it, like it's it's possible. 248 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: You see it there. And yet when you watch the 249 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals week after week, and now that Kyler Murray's back 250 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: and moving well. There's not like a lot of reason 251 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: despite them only being a two and a half point 252 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: favorite here to think like if each team just plays 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: their average game that the Rams have a good chance. 254 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I think the Rams have to show us 255 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: something they haven't. I think it's a huge test for 256 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: this Cardinal secondary, which has been badass all year Byron 257 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Murphy getting after Jalen Thompson, these guys who we don't 258 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: really know about. It's a big test for their defensive 259 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: backs because I just think Sean McVeigh is gonna try 260 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: to attack that group in a way like they did 261 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: in the first game. They threw the ball pretty well 262 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals the first time, but like that is 263 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals area where you do wonder could have buckled 264 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: down the stretch. The Cardinals have been the most consistent team. 265 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: They have one loss when Kyler Murray is the starter. 266 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: That was a three point loss to the Packers on 267 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Thursday night. They have been to me, you could it's 268 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: if when their offense is not leading the way it's 269 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: been their defense. Last week they absolutely took Chicago apart early, 270 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: and they they create turnovers. I don't love this game 271 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. And it's not just what happened the 272 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: first time. I just think that the Rams have been vulnerable. 273 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is getting hit every week. Arizona can create 274 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: a pass rush. This is the most over looked great 275 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: team in sports right now, and I think it has 276 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Arizona sports all of sports. 277 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't track any of the other sports. 278 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: And I'm confidently telling you that I just about the 279 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. I mean the two options right now, playing 280 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: the same city. I feel like the Sun's got I 281 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: mean they just won like eight team is a fair 282 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: normally right there. I am locking up the Cardinals on 283 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Monday night because I believe in this team that much. 284 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: I just do. I think that they like the version 285 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray you got last week too. I know 286 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: they haven't used them a lot on the ground. They 287 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: did a week ago and it was in bad conditions. 288 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: We'll have to see if that, you know, goes on 289 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: another week or two. But James Connor is fit in 290 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: really well there. DeAndre Hopkins looked healthy to me last week. 291 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Why not? I love it? Mark it's uh. And it's like, 292 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, I gave you some grief and guff about 293 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: locking up the Cowboys over the Saints last Thursday night. 294 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: This is very predictable. Whenever that happened. It's Dan playing 295 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: for the next week. He knows Marco get bowled the 296 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: next And then and then you came at me and 297 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: you said, how dare you you know, say that to me? 298 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: You locked up against the Titans when they were all 299 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: banged up. And then it's like, well, it's no, it's 300 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: no coincidence that we were doing that. Because in this 301 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: strange ass season, the really only way to figure out 302 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: the Locks game is find the team that's like crippled 303 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: by injury and then you bang them. Everything else is 304 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: a coin flip. Is Greg's standings? Canna a test? It's 305 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: very hard to pick games on the Locks. Yeah, it's struggling. 306 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: I do have some breaking news right here. Um. The 307 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Atlanta. 308 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: They were sold a decade ago and moved to Winnipeg, 309 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: where they became the second incarnation of the Jets. So 310 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: not underrated, not in existence for a decade. What's there 311 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: in Winnipeg. That doesn't count. They're not the Thrashers anymore. Um, 312 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: but they're twelve nine and four. Okay, well, guess what, Marquette, 313 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: they haven't played any conference games yet, but they're eight 314 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: and two. Well, I gave you the Marquette point. The 315 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: world is standing is that. I was like, where's Atlanta? 316 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: They don't they don't exist. Um anyway, forget about the Locks. 317 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: All right, good luck there, Mark I. Um, and it 318 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: is over. The NFC West is over. If the Cardinals 319 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: do their business at home here, because that would put 320 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: them at eleven and two, the Rams would fall to 321 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: eight and five the Niners or five hundred the Seahawks obviously, 322 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: or where they are. Uh So, this is such an 323 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: important game for the Cardinals, and it's a statement game 324 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: because if you go and you beat up on the 325 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: mighty Rams, the we're all in Rams that this that 326 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: that the NFL network loves the Rams. Guess what, Guess what? 327 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: You are an absolute Super Bowl favorite, and I think 328 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: we're all in an agreement that this is this team 329 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: is for real. And in reverse, the Rams would all 330 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: the questions that kind of maybe went away as a 331 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: focal point all week long about the Rams after beating 332 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: up on a bad Jaguars team would come screaming back 333 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: because this is a Rams the Rams once again on 334 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: an island game. This started when they were stumped by 335 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the Niners. I think with the Rams they face a 336 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of the questions to me that the Bills faced 337 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: in some way, which is that can you run the ball? 338 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: They got that was a big takeaway. I know it 339 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: was against the Jaguars, but they ran block really well 340 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: last week. They maybe get their Henderson back. If there's 341 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: a weakness in in Arizona, they're a little softer against 342 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: the run. Now Zavian Collins has been off and on J. J. 343 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: Watts her, I think you gotta beat him by running. 344 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Rams run the ball, and 345 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to me are the most complete team in 346 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: the NFL because they can close out games running the 347 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: ball like they don't. That rain game, to me was 348 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: a little worrisome if you're a Cardinals fan in terms 349 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: of bad weather, which makes this game and the rest 350 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: of the regular season even more important. You could tell 351 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who came into the league a little bit 352 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: of that small hands rep like Jared goff Is he 353 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna be bad, good and bad weather. He could not 354 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: grip the ball very well last week. I think that's 355 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: why they only threw it fifteen times. It's why you 356 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: couldn't hold on to it. A couple had a couple 357 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: of nice throws too. But you know what, you don't 358 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. You're at a dome five 359 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: straight weeks the rest of the regular season, and you 360 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: are the number one seed right now. So go get 361 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: that by get the home games, and don't wear it 362 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: with Super Bowls in Los Angeles? Do you, by the way, Mark, 363 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: do you think that when Gregg makes a point it 364 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: actually feels stronger because he's wearing a tie in glasses 365 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: right now? Oh yeah, but Greg knows my I think 366 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: you look wonderful, Greg. But I don't believe in ties 367 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: as a concept. But you were actually wear like a 368 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: suit jacket all the time. Suit jack is cool. I 369 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: mean the tie thing to me feels a little. It 370 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: feels a little from like that to me too, Like 371 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: he's like they got you. I answered with how I 372 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: feels like I don't mind the tie. I would be 373 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: fine if we had to wear the same uniform every day. 374 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: I want the decision taking out of my hands, like 375 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: just tell I wish we had a wardrobe department and 376 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: endless money. That just they just suited us up. And 377 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: so I do think you look sharp. The NFL now 378 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: they always wear ties. And the reason I put it 379 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: on today is I was I was sitting and I 380 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: saw a video of myself last week and it it 381 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: looks sloppier next to those guys who aren't wearing it. 382 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: And it's not like I look cool without it. I 383 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: look dorky either way. So I thought you love California 384 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: casual before and then the glasses too, well, yeah, I 385 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: like wearing the glasses when there's no sun. It's raining today, 386 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a rare day. You used to have the glasses 387 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: that would turn into sunglasses with the sun, and I 388 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: think that was you were a little young to be sported. 389 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Asked the Emma for some glasses, like maybe an array 390 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: of them and maybe get them into the mix more. 391 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: I love wearing some glasses. By the way, at NFL Network, 392 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: they outfit the women but not the men. What if 393 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: you started a like they probably reverse times of movement. 394 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: They could try to get us suited and booted. I 395 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: feel like it would go, well, make it very public. 396 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: I think they don't outfit us, some of these players. 397 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna say suits with top hats. I mean they don't. 398 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: They don't. Well then there, but they someone they like. 399 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: If you're Michael Irvan, I want you to someone someone 400 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: in Michael Irvan's life is telling him, I think it's 401 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: a good week for you to wear the pink suit 402 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: in the top hat with the fur coat. Like he's 403 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: not coming up with all that on his own. All right, 404 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: let's move on to the draft. I think he most certainly, 405 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: I gotta think he is. He seems like a fashionable guy. 406 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: I think what happens to everyone on these TV shows 407 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: is clothing becomes the most one of the most important 408 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: things in their life. I it has not reached that 409 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: point with me. We appear occasionally on unfair thing for 410 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: you to say because they just because they have stylists 411 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and can afford it, doesn't mean that becomes more important 412 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: to them than or that you like it, or it 413 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: makes you like kind of get into it, you take 414 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: all you want. It's just how I feel. I think 415 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: clothing becomes a focal point for people that suddenly exist 416 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: in a different world. All right, And with that said, 417 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean that was not that did not that was 418 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: not the jovial. That could have been more jovial. But 419 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: let's take a break and then get to the draft. Please, 420 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: that could have been word jovial. Right, all right, let's 421 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: get into it. It's starting with the number one over 422 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll pick the old Zeuser has the number one pick, 423 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: Dan Zeus, and I will go because that double third 424 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: person nothing. Uh, you know it is surprising though. Mark 425 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: went out of his way to tell me that he 426 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: doesn't want to watch the Browns on Sunday, so I 427 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: will go and take the Ravens at Browns with the 428 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: first overall pick. I love this game. I love how 429 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: messy and sloppy and imperfect. The a f C North 430 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: is no team really to me profiles as a Super 431 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: Bowl team. But that doesn't mean it's not fun to 432 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: watch him roll around in the mud a little bit 433 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: in December, and I think the Ravens coming up a 434 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: very difficult uh loss to the Steelers where they gave 435 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: up seventeen points to a big bend team and the 436 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: fourth quarter get the big score at the end of 437 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: the game. Greg, I did watch that two point conversion repeatedly, 438 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: and I think you really could make a case for 439 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: both sides. I am not willing to say that that 440 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: you're right and it was not Lamar's fault at all, 441 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: But I'm also not gonna say he blew it and 442 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: missed a wide open Mark Andrews. Either he did get 443 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the space, but he had to drop down at three 444 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: quarters with a tricky throw, and it's in. There's been 445 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: some argument that like Andrews flattened out the route and 446 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: like slowed down a little board. When it comes down 447 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: to like that minuscule of a thing, it's a little both. 448 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: He was open. It wasn't a great play by anyone 449 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: for the Steelers except for t. J. Watt. So anyway, 450 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: so the Ravens now they go to Cleveland to face 451 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: the Browns, and this feels like and I know it's 452 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: wide open the a f C. And even if the 453 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Browns lost this game, blah blah blah, they could get 454 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: back into things. But I think the Browns are cooked 455 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: if they lose the Ravens in this game. I think 456 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: they are a team that's hanging on by a thread. 457 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: This idea. They went into the season as a Super 458 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Bowl contender in the eyes of many, and it's been 459 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: such a difficult season. There have been ups, there have 460 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: been downs. But I feel like the Ravens come to 461 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: your building and whip your butt and drop you to 462 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: six and seven, and they go to nine and four. 463 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: The walls come in on Cleveland. So maybe that motivates 464 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the Mark, maybe that they know that maybe their backs 465 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: are against the wall and they deliver a big performance 466 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: which they are capable of. UM. But I think those 467 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: are the stakes here. One of their traits under Kevin 468 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Stefanski has been bouncing back from darkness from bad losses. 469 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: They've done a pretty good job of that, especially last season. UM. 470 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: But I agree with your points so much, Dan that 471 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: this is what I wrote in my notes, that the 472 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Browns lose this It's not unfair to call this season 473 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: a total disaster. I don't care about the mathematical contingencies 474 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: of them sneaking into some wild card spot. They've been 475 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: outshined by every team in the Amster North. And if 476 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: we told you, if I said back in April, this 477 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: is the situation, they'd be in six and six, UM, 478 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: with the potential to have lost the stealer. Steelers have 479 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: been swept by the Ravens. That is as ugly as 480 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: a prediction as there would have been about the Browns 481 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: back then, especially considering what Baltimore has had to go 482 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: through to get here injury wise, and what they're facing now. 483 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: There's this feeling in Baltimore now that not only could 484 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: you know the division be up for grabs, but that 485 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs aren't guaranteed. I feel like people are overreact 486 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: seen to that miss two point conversion, because, as Dan's 487 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: been pointing out, this kind of who the Ravens have 488 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: been all season, like living, you know, trying hard despite 489 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: all the injuries, making some thing's work, but like living 490 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: on the edge. And yet they now look at Marlon Humphrey, 491 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: their best cornerback, being out for the season. They now 492 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: look at Patrick McCarry maybe been their best offensive lineman 493 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: at right tackle, kind of been a revelation, really helped 494 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: that offensive line, replacing Orlando Brown out for a few weeks. 495 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: And they're feeling like, are we over the precipice of 496 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: the injury situation, where now we don't do anything particularly well, 497 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: Like the one thing they did well was throw the 498 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: ball down the field and outside the numbers, and Lamar 499 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Jackson's in a slump that really goes back to Week six. 500 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: That's a long slump. So as much as the Browns 501 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: are looking at themselves with a lot of question marks, 502 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: they're a little healthier. I know they might be short, 503 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: they're tight ends, but they're still healthier overall, and their 504 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: defense is healthier maybe than it's been all season, and 505 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: they have to be looking at this as an opportunity. 506 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: There's five games left and if you're trying to pick 507 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: one of these teams in the NFL that who can 508 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: change their story down the stretch because some teams well 509 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: for good and bad, some teams will think totally different 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: about going into Week eight team than we do right now. 511 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: The Browns at least are a strong candidate to be 512 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: one of those teams because it's all there, the divisions 513 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: there in front of them, the players are there on 514 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: the field for the most part. They gotta just show up. 515 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: And today I want to throw something out because Mark 516 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: you have you've coined the term years ago about the 517 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: team that's struggled but then causes issues down the stretch 518 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: of the berserker. I think on the other side of that, 519 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: the underperforming team that you keep an eye on because 520 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: they can get hot and all of a sudden find 521 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: their way right into the mix, the championship mix. I 522 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: call them a disruptor. That's what I think the Browns 523 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: could be. The Ravens have been that team in the past, 524 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: very that's still disappointing if you're the Browns. I mean, 525 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: I I don't know, you went three straight or something here. 526 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: You'll forget about all of this. But it's just I 527 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: don't like to make up with the team right now. 528 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's no small thing that you don't have 529 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: your punter and and having Harrison Brian and David na 530 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Joko your two tight ends is huge. In the run game, 531 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: they held the Browns to forty yards rushing last time, 532 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: dominated them at the line, and Brown's had four interceptions 533 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: and got three points out of it. This game is 534 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens got to solve this blitzing thing. I mean, 535 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: I love Lamar, I love this raven staff, but they 536 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: don't have an answer right now for when teams are 537 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: blitzing them. It's not like you don't have to be 538 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: an expert to see what's going on here. And this 539 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: is a game I think Cleveland get very aggressive, get creative, 540 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: cause some problems, just like good pick. You know, I've 541 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: been weirdly on on Aaron Donald's case the last couple 542 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: of weeks. Kind of fun, but really, go win a 543 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: game in a big spot, and you could do that 544 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Miles Garrett Meles garts having a great year, 545 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: but absolutely cause havoc and put your team on your 546 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: back in this spot. He has that ability as well. 547 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: One of the things you're not going to watch this one, Mark, 548 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: I mean I will eventually, but you didn't want it 549 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: to be your main game. I need, I need. I 550 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: know what teams fascinating me right now. Well, the Browns 551 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: will always fascinate you the most I know, but it's 552 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: like it's been a long term relationship that's bordered on 553 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: abusive and I need a little bit of a breathing room, 554 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: all right, Um, all right, Lamar hasn't had a rushing 555 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: touchdown since week to either, Like, that's one thing I 556 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: was jumping out to me last week. He that used 557 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: to be a major part of their offense, you know, 558 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: the chunk plays on the ground and it opened up 559 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: the passing game. That element of the game is missing 560 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: as well. It's just been their offense is not easy 561 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: to watch right now? All right? The second overall pick? 562 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, all right, well, I am going to I 563 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: talked about teams that fascinate me. This is a pet 564 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: team verse pet team, you know, a kiddie clash like. 565 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I like these two teams so much that I can't 566 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: wait to see what happens. The six and sixty Niners 567 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: verse the seven and five Bengals. Greg, last week, you 568 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: felt that it was too much. I was too unrealistic 569 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: and it just didn't fit for the Bengals to beat 570 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers and get to eight and four. Is eight 571 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and five palatable enough for you? This game, to me 572 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: the one most if I were to if I were 573 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: to pick, I think either of one of these, But no, 574 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: to use that test, it makes more sense that both 575 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: these teams would be seven and six if I was 576 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: using that same particular game is not working out well 577 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: for Cincinnati every time we play it, it's like, no, 578 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: they need another loss. Well, it's more because also the 579 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: forty nine is definitely feel like better than a six 580 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: and six team. To me, they do well. I think 581 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: their season. I mean, if we're looking at the Rams 582 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: and these other teams in the NFC West San Francisco 583 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: that you know it was the hottest team in the 584 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: conference outside of the Cardinals a week or two ago, 585 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: has to show up here. And the one lingering image 586 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: um that concerns me because last week I thought the 587 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: Bengals were killed and went down early because we finally 588 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: had Justin Herbert dialing up big shots down field and 589 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: one on one coverage, and the Bengals allowed them to 590 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: do that, um to their error and climb back into 591 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: that game. Because I think they are still a really 592 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: good team. But the image that stuck with me on 593 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Sunday was Kyle Shanahan. It was a pretty mild mannered 594 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: on the sideline. He's not some screamer, but he lost 595 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: his cool with Jimmy G after the antics of the 596 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: end zone safety, a terrible interception getting stuffed on third 597 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: and one, and it's like, we don't trust Jimmy G 598 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: to go do what Justin Herbert just did to the 599 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Bengals on any level. I think if we get Deebo 600 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Samuel in this that will be massive practice Wednesday. But 601 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: there worse. There was some optimism before that, and this 602 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: typically doesn't mean anything but last week he was resolute 603 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: and like, oh, I'll be playing next week. I'm only 604 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: missing one game. We'll see what that actually means. But 605 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: something got Burrows districated. Finger I know it's being like, 606 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: that's not a big deal. Well, I mean, did you 607 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: see what it looked like. It seems like it would 608 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: be a mild deal. It was very it was very swollen, 609 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: but he came and played fantastic. I thought after that injury, 610 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrows having an underrated season. Somehow, he 611 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: to me, he just is so much better this year 612 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: than he was as a rookie, even though the mobility, 613 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: especially early was down. So it's a game where you 614 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: trust the Bengals quarterback more, but you trust at least 615 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I trust the forty Niners operation more, like why can't 616 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: we have a George Kittle game like that more often? 617 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: The Bengals are one of the worst teams in the 618 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: league in terms of giving up plays up the seams. 619 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: That's where Jimmy g is usually good, although it's also 620 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: where he throws interceptions quite often. But George Kittle, Deebo, 621 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: hopefully he's back. I like plays up the seams, mashing 622 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: the ball. I do think the Bengals defense is is 623 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: a little vulnerable in that way. Who are you going 624 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: to root for? Mark? That's what I love about it. 625 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I could ship back and totally enjoy it, 626 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm much more would want the 627 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: Bengals to take a small minor I think Shanahan was 628 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: also annoyed. I'm I'm glad we can mention this here 629 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: because I've forgotten the Cardinals that Kingsbury showed up after 630 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: the bye week with a Shanahan like beard and a 631 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Shanahan flat brim hat, and I was like, like, he 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: looked a lot like Shanahan, and I think he was. 633 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: He was kind of saying, I'm the new Shanahan and 634 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: that is hot. That's a hot take. I love that take. 635 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: And these guys definitely notice these things, Oh definitely, so 636 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: the things like when I almost saw two head coaches 637 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: fight at the Combine a few years ago, Like they 638 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: notice everything. In Kingsbury. He cares about how he looks, 639 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: and that's fine. Everyone does at some point, but I 640 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: guess I'm not allowed to write that point to some degree. 641 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he waited for that bye week because 642 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: he didn't want to be in the in between. You know, 643 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: while he was on the sideline, he timed it out 644 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: for the bye week, grew that beard, wore that flapper. 645 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: It seemed like you were making an insinuation mark that 646 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: at a certain point, if you reach a level in 647 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: this industry, it becomes more about how you look then Ball. 648 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: That seemed to be what you were saying. Yeah, but 649 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I think I'm not. I think the 650 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: same thing that cared about it on air, they cared 651 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot before they were on air. And then there's 652 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: the reverse. Some people kind of don't care in either. 653 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. I just feel like maybe I 654 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: want to be there. Give me that wardrobe and I'll start. 655 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't handle, like, how do I 656 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: go build a whole, like a huge wardrobe of my 657 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: own without a money b I have, Like my we 658 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: don't have any room in our house to store four 659 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: thousand extra shirt. I'm just saying it's too much, it's 660 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: beyond my It's something I'll deal with, something I'll deal 661 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: with next year. It's like how we get our own 662 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: parking spaces right by the entrance, and I'm the only 663 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: one that uses it because you guys are so working class. 664 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I guess same thing, Mark, we are. Let's not, you know, 665 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: let's not hide from the fact that they give us 666 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: our own lockers. Basically now in a dressing room like 667 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and yours is the only one that's completely empty. The 668 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: parking space thing is only because from what I hear 669 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: and I you and I actually I passed you today, 670 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: um and gave you an adult hands. You seem like 671 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: you have a bigger We don't have a problem. I 672 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: don't here at all. I just because we've never I don't. 673 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: I've never more than two second one to have the 674 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: inter like this, it's it's worth it to not have 675 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: the social interaction of like making someone get up, which 676 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: is fine, and everyone has their own. That's the thing 677 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: making a man come over and take a cone away 678 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: so that I can park. It's just that I don't 679 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: even know how when I'm there's no one even to 680 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: talk to when I get to that level. That's part 681 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: of that person's job, like theyre I'm saying, I don't 682 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: see them when I get there, and it's just my 683 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: parking spot is maybe forty yards away around the bend. 684 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm good to get a little, get those steps and 685 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: get a little Anyways, that's what it's about, all right. 686 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: He went way off topic. Oh I thought eron Glenn 687 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: and Aaron Glenn got fired in our email, but he 688 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: didn't not yet. All right, let's um, they're playing well lately, 689 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: those fighting lions. Let's move on and uh up next 690 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: is Greg. I can't believe you left Bill's Bucks to 691 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: the third pick. It's the game of the week. It 692 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: might be the game of the year for me. I mean, okay, 693 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: that's overstate. It's not it's not even the game of 694 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: the week. Ram's Cardinals a little better. But this is 695 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: Romo nance and I am just fascinated by this because 696 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: of the matchup. First of all, Tom Brady said the 697 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: minute he was off the field last week, next game 698 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: is our biggest game of the year. And he's like 699 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: the last person whoever gets like that, And I was like, 700 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: why why did he say that? First of all, he's got, 701 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, a thing with Buffalo blah blah blah, but 702 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: he sees them as like a Super Bowl contender, as 703 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: a real test and you almost get a sense with 704 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: these Bucks and just the way that the schedule worked 705 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: out that ay, they're not being tested, that they're almost 706 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: having to rev themselves up, uh to get these you know, 707 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: wins taken care of. And they've done a good job 708 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: of it against the Falcons, like Giants, games like that. 709 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: And then you look at the rest of their schedule. 710 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: Sure they're gonna be fired up for that game against 711 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: the Saints, but they don't play a team with a 712 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: winning record the rest of the season until the playoffs. 713 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: And I think Tom Brady was fully aware that when 714 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: he said it. I think he wants everyone healthy and 715 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: back for this game. I think he has questions, uh 716 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: about his team and how they're gonna stand up in 717 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: a big spot. And as as much as Buffalo has 718 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: struggled lately, on paper, they up pretty well with Tampa 719 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: in that they're a passing team and the Buccaneers defense 720 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: is vulnerable to the past. Like if ever there is 721 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: a week for Brian Dable to ignore Sean McDermott and 722 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: just throw the ball forty five times, I think this 723 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: is it. Can we see the old Bills passing attack 724 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: in perfect conditions against a banged up secondary. Even as 725 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: the Bucks get some of their players back, they lose 726 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Mike Edwards to suspension. Jamal Diane as a concussion. White 727 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Head was out last week. Don't think he he might 728 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: not be back, and so they're still vulnerable. This is 729 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: a game where I think the Bills need to outscore Tampa. 730 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: This stress opposed to every other week when you don't 731 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: want to outscore the right like not outscoring would be 732 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: not opened. I just mean you're gonna have to put 733 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: up thirty five or so this stretch, this Patriots Bucks. 734 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: You got the Panthers in there, then the Patriots again. 735 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: It's just the it's the acid test for Buffalo. It's 736 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: kind of um like. It reminds me. I don't know 737 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: why this came into my head, but like when John 738 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: Lennon had that lost year in Los Angeles where he 739 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: was on the outs with um Yoko Ono and his 740 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: life and off the rails, but you come out of 741 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: it having learned something about yourself and maybe having grown. 742 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: This is that, This to me is it for the 743 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: Bills because what we think about them has changed so remarkably. 744 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: For me, the New England game, like we can't say 745 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: all last week, it really matters what happens against the 746 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: Patriots and then blame it on the weather that it 747 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I know I'm not greg, I'm not 748 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: just pointing to you. I feel like there's a lot 749 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: of like, well, actually, no, no, we still really believe 750 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 1: in the Bills, and I believe in them a little 751 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: bit less because of the way they love this team 752 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: a year ago. I love the idea of the Bills 753 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: my whole life. I mean, there's I just feel like 754 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: it's a hard it's hard to say like the Bills 755 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: were exposed on Monday night, given how strange it was 756 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: because of the weather. It doesn't mean that it wasn't disappointing, 757 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: or that the fact that there's seven and five is 758 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: a massive letdown from what expectations were. And that's why 759 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: this game I'm really pumped to see, because this really 760 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: is this is gut check time. Do you see my points? Though, 761 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: it's like we're we're deferring the now it matters for 762 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: the Bills, were saying before that game started, and as 763 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: a fan watching it, I kind of thought, I don't 764 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: know what this game tells me at all, whether the 765 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: Patriots win or lose. It's sort of a one off 766 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: in that it's so unique. I see what you're saying Mark, 767 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: it's a playing in that weather too, But that's fine, 768 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, but the Patriots could have lost and I 769 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought that they were away, because that's my point, 770 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: that the weather made it so weird that you almost 771 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: have to or at least I do, And I guess 772 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: Greg agrees that just got a whole judgment. Still on 773 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: the Bills, Let's get him against Tampa on the road. 774 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: And if the Bills really are messed up or doomed 775 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: as you said on Tuesday, Um, then they will lose 776 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: this game, and they will beat the Panthers the next 777 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: week probably and then lose again to New England, and 778 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: that will be their fate. Um. I'm just not ready 779 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: to go there. I think there is maybe something within 780 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: this team and maybe a frustrating loss where not only 781 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: did you get beat in a really tough game in 782 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: prime time, after the game you rubbed the wrong way 783 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: the way people try to spin the game, UM as 784 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: some type of uh you know, addressing week this is 785 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: that we're exposed in a big spot. I think they're 786 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: mad about all that. I think the Bucks are and try. 787 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are gonna win this game. I 788 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: go that far I think they got this. I I 789 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: don't want to go down like hot Take Avenue with this, 790 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: like I did with like multiple teams in both conferences 791 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: a week ago. It is a layer cake to me 792 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: of displeasure for the Bills, because the first layer is 793 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: the Titans loss. The second layers that Jaguars debacle. The 794 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: third layer was getting totally thumped and outmanned by the Cults. 795 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: The fourth layer is the Patriots game. How many more 796 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: layers on this cake do we need for me to 797 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: lose a little bit of faith that this team is 798 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: not last beyond McDermott. McDermott's own words and frustrations. Don't 799 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: have any more faith, You're out. I don't have no faith, 800 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: you said. I'm more. I'm in a different place than 801 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: you like. If they beat the Bucks, I will allow 802 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: some of those sins to float down the river. But 803 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't just ignore the game because it was in 804 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: poor weather or anything else that's happened. It's all part 805 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: of the story that that's fair. And yet when I 806 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: look at this matchup, it's not the things that everyone's 807 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: talking about that I'm worried about the Bills. It is 808 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: their path, same game it is Josh Allen, Stefon, dig Sanders, Knox, 809 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. Because for this team to make sense, and 810 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's why McDermott so frustrated. They need to 811 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: be like the Bills. They're having the same feelings, uh 812 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are having right now, except when they're 813 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: going up against good team. You know they're they're having 814 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: a tougher schedule. Basically, you look at this match of 815 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Bucks. Can the Bills really get after Tom Brady? 816 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really and that was Atlanta, 817 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: But even then, like Tristan Worse, hasn't given up a 818 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: pressure since Week eight, Tom Brady is still the best 819 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in football. I think when he's given time, like 820 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, isn't that close. So if you got that 821 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: big of an edge at quarterback, I don't think that. 822 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: To me. The coaching is a wash here and you 823 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: give the Bucks a little bit of an edge. Great game. 824 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch it. What a freaking pick at 825 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: number maybe one of the best. I'm about to have, 826 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: one of the best drafts anyone's had. I gave Dan 827 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: a good draft. I feel like I helped make you happy. 828 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: The reason why I didn't take it, Greg, is because 829 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew my late afternoon is gonna be 830 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: bills at Bucks and niners at Bengals. So all I 831 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: needed was to take my Ravens and Browns and then 832 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: hopefully they that those two games stay on mark by 833 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: the time I come back around. Didn't work out that 834 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: way for the old zeuser. Well, that that's doing a 835 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: disservice to your other four pm game. I'm taking an 836 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: early game now. And wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 837 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: before you go calm down, we have we have someone 838 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: else that wants to talk about this game. It's a 839 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: Westling brother. Hello, heroes, Phil here Week four Keen and 840 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: the west Lane Boys desperately need a win. I only 841 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: have one recording this week, or maybe another one if 842 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: things start going sideways. Made game. I had zero in 843 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: my brother, So you know what that means. No Bengals 844 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: and it's something Mackie and me. Sean McDermott, you got 845 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: outcoached last week by the goat when the Pets only 846 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: through three passes and you couldn't even own it. This week, 847 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: you're going against another goat who was guaranteed to threat 848 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: more in three passes unless for Net runs all over 849 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: you to pop off, bucks over bills, lock it up. Yeah, 850 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: there is a delicious little irony that the people of 851 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: Western New York aren't going to want to hear. But 852 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: there's a chance that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick end 853 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: your season and forces again. I hadn't even thought of that. 854 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: You're joining forces. And by the way, Nick Westling did 855 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: he sent two files last week, and one I guess 856 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: was I don't listen he sends the Western Brothers sent 857 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: me a file. I never listened until the show I 858 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 1: and he said he sent one and then said, actually, 859 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: don't use that one, use this one. So I was like, okay, 860 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: and I sent that one on to Ricky. I need 861 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: to just get out of this business. They just need 862 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: to send it straight to Ricky. But I just it's 863 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: amazing to me. So Nick was telling the truth. He 864 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: did have two files, one locking up the Bengals, one 865 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: locking up the Chargers. But who does that? Well? I 866 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: also did you dirty? I thought on Twitter? And we 867 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: don't need to go down that road. But how about 868 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: this um? Being a middleman is never a good role. 869 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: You don't need to keep be a middleman at this point, 870 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a smart for you. I think 871 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of the middle, net Ricky going forward. 872 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: Can we just get the Westling Brothers to send it 873 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: to you? Yeah, all right, here we go. Let's move on. Greg. Sorry, 874 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: without further adode Greggy with the Cowboys. It's the Washington 875 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: football team. It's early. It's important if Washington wins this game. 876 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this game. I really am, because I 877 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: have somewhat openly thought this Washington run a little phony, 878 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: not quite buying it. Like it's fine, like they it 879 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: makes sense. They deserve credit. They've they've beaten some bad 880 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: offenses with some well coached defense. Like give Ron Rivera 881 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Taylor Heineke playing better for a 882 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: month overall, uh than I expected. But to me, there's 883 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: still a seven or eight type of win team. And 884 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: now you're going up again Dallas in a game where okay, 885 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: it's de Marcus Lawrence's second game back. Cooper was just 886 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: coming off COVID wasn't totally right in terms of the 887 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: snap count a week ago. Now they've got a little 888 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: extra rest coming off that Thursday game. It's you know, 889 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: it's Lamb, Cooper, Martin, Tyron Smith, Gallop Zeke. All of 890 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: those guys had actually never played together with Lyle Collins 891 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: until a week ago, and now here we're back again. 892 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you add Randy Gregory, who 893 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: looked like a pro bowler earlier in the season, is back. 894 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore, who's their best interior lineman from a year ago, 895 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: is gonna play for the first time all season. I 896 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: think this Washington offensive line has been well coached up, 897 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: but it's like, I don't think Taylor Heineke can go 898 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: up and down the field on this defense. And if 899 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: you can't do that, I think this game ends up 900 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: being a little sideways. And that's why I'm locking up 901 00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's right. Dramatic pause. Well we'll let it. 902 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: And I was trying to fit no, I love that gap. Um. 903 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, who do I 904 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: lock up this week? And then I heard Mike McCarthy. 905 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: You know we're gonna win this game. I'm confident that. Yeah, baby, 906 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm locking up the voice too. Oh, I thought you 907 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: right back. It's Mike McCarthy, Yes, the mastermind behind it all. Yeah, Marky, Well, 908 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: so what we often frown on Cowboys Cowboys Hubris. In 909 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: this case, I kind of love what he did. I 910 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: with you. I think this is maybe where the rainbow 911 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: ends for Washington. Uh, it's just I don't like the 912 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: matchup on any level. A lot of things have gone 913 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: right for them. That said, if Dallas lost this, utter 914 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: chaos would be unleashed on that Organisa, you here, play Mike, 915 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy again, Ricky, please, you know we're gonna win 916 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: this game. I'm confident in that. It sounds let spoke. 917 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: It sounds a little bit like he's does he sound 918 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: that confident? It looks like he's like, I'm looking past 919 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: this game. We're gonna win this game, and then we're 920 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna move on and continue to win football games. It 921 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: would the NFC East is there's if they win this game. 922 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm with you, Greg. Everything you said is 923 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: the reason why I locked the game up. I think 924 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: Washington deserves credit for making the season interesting, especially especially 925 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: with Chase Young going down Mantes sweat. By the way, 926 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: we talked about his broken jaw. Uh and uh, he 927 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: is supposed to come back, but then he got COVID 928 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: and he's not vaccinated. Yeah, he is out now for 929 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: at least ten days. I think it is what it is, 930 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: and then he has to not test positive and all 931 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: that stuff. So it's been a nice story that the 932 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: defense has gotten off the mat, even though they're underman uh. 933 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: Tellor Heineke has been obviously a nice story. Antonio Gibson 934 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: is a really good player. Um. But they shouldn't have 935 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: one last week, all right? They did win the Raiders 936 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: blew that game, uh in three different ways. I didn't 937 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: think the Washington football team played that well in that 938 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: guy game and got away with some things. I think 939 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: the I think it ends here. The buckstops here is 940 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: the Cowboys take control of the unbseased question for you, 941 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: and I hate to keep doing this, but was it 942 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: a nice story that they waxed the Buccaneers the team 943 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: that we now call the team that will decide what 944 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: we think of the Buffalo Bills. I'm just saying Washington 945 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: is not something. This is not a flukey scenario. They 946 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: they have shored things up. We've seen this under Ron 947 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: Rivera before. The offense I think has gotten has grown 948 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: as much as the up. No, I'm good with my 949 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm with you like, that's why 950 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: it's it's like, well in the lock zone, Like it 951 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't stun me that Washington won this game because I 952 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: think they've shown us who they are, which is a 953 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: pretty close to average competitive team. I believe the Cowboys 954 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: are better than that. They to be fair, and we 955 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: talked about it on Tuesday with Jane, they just haven't. 956 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 1: They haven't shown it, not offensively. I think their defense 957 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: has been pretty consistent in who they are that they're 958 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: there's they're spunky, they're sparky, they're they're overachievers, they're they're fine. 959 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: It's the it's the offense. It's Dak and in all 960 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: the weapons actually that haven't been able to get into 961 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: full flow, and that included in that Sades game that 962 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: they couldn't. They had seven possessions, you know, Taysom Hill 963 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: kept turning it back over. But I just believe in 964 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: talent over the long run that it will come around 965 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: there too. Towns well, and it's one of these things 966 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: whenever they say like this this offense versus this surging defense, 967 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: they match up really well. And the Cowboys have the 968 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: second point most points per game in the league, the 969 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: first in yardage and a lot of that is waited 970 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: from earlier in the year when they weren't in this 971 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: post Broncos slump. But it always favors the offense when 972 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: that stuff happens. I don't love the matchup for Washington, um, 973 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: and I will say that the Cowboys, And we talked 974 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: about this with Jane, and I thought it was an 975 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: interesting theory. Well, I don't know if it what it 976 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: means ultimately, but um, he hasn't played that well since 977 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: he came back from the calf. Jane said she wonders 978 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: if there's some type of mental component to it, the 979 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: calf injury, the leg injury last year, that he's not 980 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: trusting his body in the same way and that might 981 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: be affecting his play. I don't know, but he has 982 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: not been as good. They need Dak to really uh 983 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: light him up. He's been so different too. He he's 984 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: at Sally, I think made more big time throws in 985 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: the last two games than any two games stretch off season, 986 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: like more like, oh my god throws. But he hasn't 987 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: been doing this stuff where he like reads everything and 988 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 1: knows what's going on, and he hasn't looked like poise 989 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: they're comfortable. It's like the total opposite of how he started. 990 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: Left the Saints hanging around of that game and a 991 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of it. Alright, let's take a break and then 992 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: we will move up. All right, we're back Mark, It 993 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: is back to you, buddy. Well, I'm gonna pick a 994 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: late afternoon game here. I'm gonna go Giants at Chargers. Um, 995 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: based entirely on my interest in the Chargers, based not 996 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: on any level in my interests of the Giants. I mean, look, 997 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: we're back here again, though with Corona. Because Keenan Allen, 998 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: who is vaccinated has COVID, has a chance to play. 999 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like that he that he probably will because 1000 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: the five day window started on Monday. Mike Williams was 1001 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: he has though, well he's been. He's in that COVID 1002 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: world where we don't know, I don't know. Like Williams 1003 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: was a close contact, he's not vaccinated. They still say 1004 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: he has a chance to play based on when it 1005 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: all occurred. Chris Harris on the defense also was a 1006 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: close contact. So if you lose, if you ever weren't 1007 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: with Williams or Keenan Allen, which I think they will be, UM, 1008 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: it would kind of unspool everything that we saw Herbert 1009 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: and Mike Williams achieved last week, which was a long 1010 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: awaited deep shots down field that took some of this 1011 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: heat off of Joe Lombardi. Um. On the giant side, 1012 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 1: it sounds like Daniel Jones has a chance to play 1013 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: on where we are here on Thursday. Um, Mike Glennan 1014 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: has a concussion at this point if he couldn't go. 1015 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: Jake from State Farm, I guess is like the third 1016 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: guy mix. I mean, I'm with you the dream and 1017 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: are a conversation for the offseason at this point. I 1018 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: think with the with the Chargers, it's like, okay, guys, 1019 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 1: let us know, like handle your business back to us, uh, 1020 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: you know, after this Sunday of games and let us 1021 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: know if we should take you seriously because they could 1022 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: be a disruptor in the a f C. They could 1023 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: be a team it comes up, goes from being an 1024 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: inconsistent up and down entity to bang, all of a sudden, 1025 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: they're playing the a f C title game. They have 1026 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: that type of ceiling, but you need to see that consistency, 1027 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: you got it. They need to do with the Cults 1028 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: of Mastered, which is oh you're giving us a layup 1029 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,959 Speaker 1: on the schedule. We're gonna slam that mother down, gonna 1030 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: handle it. We are gonna take care of business. I 1031 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: loved what I saw out of their defensive line last week. 1032 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: It was by far their best defensive line performance of 1033 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: the year. It kind of came out of nowhere. Bosta 1034 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: wasn't even on the field. Uh. They've also been a 1035 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: good run defense since thereby, like that idea that that's 1036 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: their huge weakness isn't borne out by stats or the 1037 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: eye tests. For about five weeks now, they've kind of 1038 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: solved that, so you see some things coming around. Mike 1039 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: Williams is loosely expected to play because he's the close 1040 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,240 Speaker 1: contact Keenan Allen. Yeah, would have to pass the test 1041 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: as much as people got on Rogers for being unvaccinated. Like, 1042 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anyone get COVID on a Monday and 1043 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: play on a Sunday. I've been watching this, so it's 1044 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: unlikely it's possible. But the timing, because everyone makes this 1045 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: huge deal, it's like, well, then you're gonna at least 1046 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: be out a week if you're show me the vaccinated 1047 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: guys that are testing negative just five days later, it's 1048 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: hard to do. Like it's the optimism on the on 1049 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: these reports through me because right it's it's so a 1050 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: typical Mike Williams should be back because he's a close 1051 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: content and Chris Harris. I know we don't want to 1052 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: talk about the Giants, but this no Giants running back 1053 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: or wide receivers scored a touchdown since October. It does 1054 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: not speak to the talent. It speaks that they have 1055 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: had zero availability of the roster. It costs their offensive 1056 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 1: coordinator getting fired. It's just like this Giant's team needs 1057 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: to go to sleep, and they got a joe. They 1058 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: got a coach afraid of his own shadow, calling punts 1059 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: while he's down four in the opposing territory. Mike Glennon 1060 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: on your quarterback, Jake from give me a promote this 1061 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. I am up a spot here, 1062 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: you guys, bang me in the biggest of all spots. Um, 1063 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 1: I will grab the Raiders at Chiefs in the early window. 1064 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: Puts me in a tough situation with the Jets, but 1065 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: I'll live with it. Um, all right, same thing with Raiders. 1066 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think the Raiders are. I think the 1067 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: Raiders are and also ran. Ultimately, I'm not um. I've 1068 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I've seen enough of them, 1069 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: uh to know that how this is gonna end, It's 1070 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna end in a little bit of disappointment. Eight nine, 1071 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: nine and eight. So what what interests me more? And 1072 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: I could be wrong because everyone's been wrong all season one? 1073 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: Maybe the Raiders rise up, maybe the starting here, they 1074 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead, then they go to Cleveland 1075 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: and win, and then they win at Denver in their 1076 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: nine and six or two weeks ago. Maybe that happens. 1077 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: Probably not, though I think the Chiefs again, with their 1078 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: defense playing as well as it has and with the 1079 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: Raiders accepting the one game on Thanksgiving Night, that offense 1080 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: has been as bad as it's been, We're gonna get 1081 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: another one of these twenty two to nine wins for 1082 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: the Chiefs because I am out and I am out 1083 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: of the business finally, effectively, uh, Sunday night of saying 1084 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are gonna come around on offense, 1085 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. It's not. But when they 1086 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: play the Raiders. That was the one game that was 1087 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: the forty bomber, uh that everyone was like everything solved, 1088 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: but No, it's like, actually, you just for playing the 1089 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: Raiders and that matchup work for you. But maybe it'll 1090 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: work again. Maybe, But it just there's it's not a 1091 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: slump anymore. It's something systemically wrong with what they're doing, 1092 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: or it's a personnel or whatever it is. I think 1093 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: it's more likely at this point that this is something 1094 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: they could fix in the off season. That's something they 1095 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: could fix in December and January. That's just that's where 1096 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm at. But and that's why the defense, as good 1097 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: as it's been, they strike me as a team that 1098 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: is going to get picked off in January and it's 1099 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna be seen as a big upset. But at the 1100 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: same time, now now it's come down to Steve Spags 1101 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: having a bad day at the office to save the Chiefs. 1102 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the more likely destination. So yes, I 1103 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs this week. I like them in another 1104 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: low scoring win where the defense carries the day and 1105 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes does just enough. But I think the Chiefs have 1106 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: major issues. Do you like them by nine and a 1107 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: half points? This was one of the toughest games I 1108 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: thought to pick against the Spirit. It's gonna be right there. 1109 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: It's gonna be that's how they get you. I think 1110 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: they can solve their problems this season because I think 1111 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot of it is on Patrick Mahomes. It's he's 1112 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: just not as accurate, Like I think there are plays 1113 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: there to be made. He's a lot of the interceptions 1114 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: have been bad luck and everything. But he also just 1115 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: is missing a lot of throws. Like if you look 1116 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: at him and Stafford, I think are very similar in 1117 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 1: that if you look at their like on target throw 1118 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: rate that like PFF does in terms of putting the 1119 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: ball in the right spot, there was a ball location 1120 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: like they just they've just been missing a lot of 1121 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: throws and that's hasn't been the case with Mahomes. I 1122 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: don't know why that is, and I think it can change. 1123 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: I would. I just I've seen too much good play 1124 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: out of him. I can't imagine that Andy Reid just 1125 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to coach offensive football and they don't 1126 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: have the right player. It's not that Andy is no 1127 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: longer a good coaching and Mahomes is no longer the 1128 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: most talented quarterback of his generation. There's something that's just 1129 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: something in the mix here that's beyond like a body 1130 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,800 Speaker 1: switch comedy and now it's rich co type coaching and 1131 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: Ken O'Brien a quarterback, Like something else is going on. 1132 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, before I knew you, guys, I was stuck 1133 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: in these like laundry list of terrible corporate jobs. And 1134 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: one Christmas they gave us as a gift. You're welcome 1135 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: by this. We saved from that. That's true. I was 1136 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 1: hired before you and taught you how to use the 1137 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, the theater system. But I will, I'll look 1138 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: at it that way. But it's just Jim Ryan and 1139 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: a good day in New York YouTube video. Well I'm 1140 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: not your boss anymore. That's more. But that they gave 1141 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: us this book, that hideous corporate book, Good Too Great, 1142 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: which I threw right in a trash can. But I 1143 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: think the chiefs are more authoring, like a sequel that 1144 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 1: I think more people can relate to, which is like 1145 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: great too Good, Like they that's what they are this year. 1146 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: It's fine. And like if you look at even some 1147 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks, and I think Mahomes came out 1148 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: like such a fireball. And it's the way he plays, 1149 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 1: uh you know that, you know it's not the same 1150 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: throw every time he does things that are special, that are, 1151 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, visually off the charts. But every quarterback has 1152 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: these seasons where after a couple of great years, they 1153 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: regress a little bit. And I think that the function 1154 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: of the whole offense is part of it. And you 1155 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: look at Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey's numbers, it's just 1156 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: we just assume that they're off too, Like they're still 1157 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill's numbers are still incredible compared to other wideouts 1158 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: in the league and stuff. They just don't seem to 1159 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: have that special sauce this year. And I think it's 1160 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: just who I mean, well, I guess, like I'm wondering. 1161 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just not very much physically, I think slightly. Yeah, 1162 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: I just think that we're like and Dan, I'm happy 1163 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: to hear you say that you've gotten off this train 1164 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: because we could all be wrong, like that's pretty much 1165 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: of what we do. But like, I'm not waiting around 1166 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: for them to be the Chief's offense from two years ago. 1167 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: And I don't see it. I think the Chiefs fans 1168 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: who are trying to make the point, like if the 1169 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 1: Patriots have this run or the Ravens have this run 1170 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: with these scores like no one's complaining about the style 1171 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: points that there is something too everyone's complaining. That's what 1172 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, if it was those teams winning with 1173 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: those scores, no one would be plaining about the Patriots 1174 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: or the Ravens. And yet because it's the Chiefs, everyone's complaining. 1175 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: They do get some credit for the institutional value of 1176 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: like we know how to win games, like we win 1177 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: more than everyone else. For for the Bills and the 1178 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: Browns and these teams that don't know how to stack 1179 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: year after year, Well here we are the Chiefs, you know, 1180 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: tied for the best record one half game behind in 1181 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: the A f C for the fourth straight year. Now 1182 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: they're doing it in a different way, but they do 1183 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: get a little credit here where it's it's all the 1184 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: same people running the ship that have gotten them to 1185 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: eight and four problem in a in a really blase 1186 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: Um low grade a f C. Yes, right, but they 1187 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: beat They beat the Packers and granted Jordan left that 1188 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: one didn't kind of count, but they beat the Cowboys. 1189 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: They've had And a point that you made Tuesday, or 1190 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: I guess the Monday Night Football Crew made Tuesday about 1191 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots was like, oh, the only difference between this 1192 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: year and last year is they have better players now. 1193 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: It's also the a f C is worse this year 1194 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: than it was last year, right, so that really has 1195 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: helped the team like the Patriots and a team like 1196 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, who I think because the a f C 1197 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 1: has been what it is, have been able to win 1198 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: eight of twelve despite having major offensive issues. And by 1199 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: the way, there's one thing some chaos. One thing that 1200 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: I want to be wrong about is the Chief's offense 1201 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: and and then turning it on because the league is 1202 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 1: just more fun when mahomes greatness is on display, uh 1203 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: in a really um profound way. So maybe it happens, 1204 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 1: but there's just so much evidence now that it won't. 1205 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: All Right, I feel like an anarchists, but I kind 1206 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: of like, what's I kind of like him not being 1207 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: like the centerpiece every week? How about when we were 1208 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: watching Sunday Night football and we're board to tears, Yeah, 1209 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: but I was more it was much more boyd with 1210 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: the team they were playing, which we'll get to at 1211 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: some point in this show, I know, but the fact 1212 00:59:54,200 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: that we're board watching the Chiefs side come home. So 1213 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: what I hear when I hear like the league is 1214 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: just so much better when like the Cowboys are good, 1215 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: or the league so much better when fill in the 1216 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: blankets like I t I typically agree with like thirty 1217 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of those, and I don't need the Chiefs to like 1218 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: go blow everyone out week after week and being hearing 1219 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: about Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey it's a little personal. 1220 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: I get it because you know it happened against the Browns, 1221 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: but beyond that, I simply don't. It doesn't make my 1222 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: life so much better. I, like other teams, was slow 1223 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: on the uptake on that one. I didn't really did. 1224 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: That is like, that is a piece of it. It 1225 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: is not the entire thing. All right, let's snake it 1226 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: and it's a little it's got now it's getting sloppy, 1227 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: so let's let's pick up the pace here. I will 1228 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: grab the Saints at Jets. Um. The Saints is for them, 1229 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: lose and see you next year. You could say it's 1230 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: already that place for them because they yeah, they've been 1231 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: so bad for a long stretch now, but yeah, one 1232 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: game out of five and seven and they're at the 1233 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: mental ends. But no one's scared to go and play 1234 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: the Jets and Jersey, so uh, this This profiles against 1235 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the Jets defense that has been unbelievably poor. Like that's 1236 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: to me. People could say, what's the biggest disappointment about 1237 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this latest poor Jet season? Is it Zach Wilson not 1238 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: really fulfilling promise early on? No, because I'm not totally 1239 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: surprised by that he considering where he came out of 1240 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: college and the fact that he's so raw. We'll see 1241 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: what happens down the line. The Jets defense being the 1242 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: worst in football by a long shot, that was not expected, 1243 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: even after Carl Lawson went out with the injury and 1244 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: then eventually Marcus May. The fact that they are they 1245 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: would give up seven consecutive touchdown draw or scoring drives. 1246 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: To Gardner, means you that they would just get embarrassed 1247 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football by the Colts in a way 1248 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: that was ungodly. Like, So, if Taysom Hills healthy enough 1249 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: to play at a strong level compared to what a 1250 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: skill set is, the Saints are gonna score a lot 1251 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: of points in this game. And it's going to be 1252 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a Saint's romp because the Jets defense has reached the 1253 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: point where they do not compete, and you get Alvin 1254 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: are back expected to play. UH, mark Ingram is in 1255 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,919 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan run the COVID list. Give me a break, 1256 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: This is like worse than last year, but the Jets 1257 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: third worst run defense dv o A wise, they've allowed 1258 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: a hundred yards on the ground twice all year, and hey, 1259 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: they have been utterly thrashed another weeks. So it's just 1260 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: with who the Saints have in the way they're built. 1261 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: It sets up well for New Orleans. Well, they're getting healthier, 1262 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: except for those COVID issues that would end UH consecutive 1263 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: start streak or game streak by Cam Jordan that I 1264 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: believe goes his entire career dates back to the late 1265 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. Pretty pretty amazing for a defense eve end. 1266 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't don't think he's ever missed a game. Taysom 1267 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Hills practicing is expected to start. They're gonna get one 1268 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: of their two tackles back. It sounds like torn armstead. 1269 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Ryan ramchucks still out of practice. The Jets are very 1270 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: banged up, actually missing UH quite a number of starters 1271 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: in practice, including both their top running backs have concussions 1272 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: and Elijah bore As a quad injury and as in practice. 1273 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: So it's a mess I was thinking, I was thinking right, 1274 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking of Marcus Davenport's also back for the Saints. 1275 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: It's like with the Saints, it's often just like who's 1276 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: playing for this team. If enough people are playing, they're 1277 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: pretty darn competitive. And I think it's a very difficult 1278 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: matchup for um, your boy Zack Wilson. If he doesn't 1279 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: have his running game, it's very hard to run against 1280 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: the Saints, and he doesn't have Elijah More and Dennis 1281 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: Allen I think has done a great job this year, 1282 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: and I think is a particularly difficult guy to go 1283 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: up against for these young quarterbacks. Is they're just gonna 1284 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: send a lot at him. I don't know if you 1285 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Corey Davis. He's out for them. Didn't He just 1286 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: had core surgery. Uh, he had a groin issue that 1287 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: got worse last week. And that is just like the 1288 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Jets curse with these free agents. Every free agent they 1289 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: sign either plays well well below what they expected or 1290 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: they get hurt. It's just like a point where they're 1291 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: not having to make you know, splash free agency moves 1292 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: every year to like Corey Davis, isn't It was just 1293 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: like there are multiple splash people that have not worked out. 1294 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Listening to this though, think like, no team is scoring 1295 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: a ton of points. I mean, we're not scoring a 1296 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: ton on any defense. I don't care how bad the 1297 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Jets defense is. That's have you watched have you watched 1298 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: the Saints offense the last three weeks? It has been 1299 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: It's been a tough slog. Alright. I will say this, Um, 1300 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the Saints struggle in the screen game within the post 1301 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Drew Brees era uh with Tayson Milk. Just throw some 1302 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 1: screen passes down Camar and see what happens. This game 1303 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: is lockable. I thought about locking this up, but there's 1304 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: so many injuries. Yeah, I saw it too. I just don't. 1305 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: That's a gross move. I don't. Um. All right, let's 1306 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: now move on quickly. Mark, all right, I'm gonna go. 1307 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: I need a nice early game to pair with that 1308 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Bengals Niners dreamy affair. That is gonna be a romp, 1309 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I hope, and it's going to be the Titans verse 1310 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Um. This got on my radar. Jaguars wise 1311 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: number one to Julio Jones for the Titans. Sounds like 1312 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: he's back at practice. They'll get him back. That helps 1313 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: a little bit um for the Jaguars. Trevor Lawrence had 1314 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: to come out and say, we have that, actually, do 1315 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,919 Speaker 1: you want to tee it up? And then well you've 1316 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: just teed it up. Trevor Lawrence that the number one 1317 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 1: overall pick who has struggled, uh to lead this offense 1318 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: two points this year. Um came out in the media. 1319 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: James Robinson, their best offensive player at running back, has 1320 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: been getting benched a ton this year for fumble issues. 1321 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Although Carlos Hyde when he fumbles, he doesn't get better. 1322 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: It's a whole thing and it speaks to maybe a 1323 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: bigger issue behind the scenes. This is what Trevor Lawrence 1324 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: said to the media this week. Um, I honestly don't 1325 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: even know everything that went into it. You know, I'm 1326 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: playing the game and stuff happens in the sideline with 1327 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: coaching decisions. I don't really get into that, but I 1328 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: know and I voiced my opinion. James is one of 1329 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: our best players and he's gonna be in the game, 1330 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and I think we're all on the same page, so 1331 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: there's no confusion there. Um, So we're just gonna We're 1332 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna move forward. But I know James is the hell 1333 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: of a player, So I want him, I want him 1334 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: out there. And now there's a sparrow I talked to 1335 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: a sparrow said there might be some heat going on 1336 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Well, um, there is some heat between 1337 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Lawrence Anders coaching. Yes, yeah, and I think I think 1338 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,919 Speaker 1: this is now coming and I and and also urban 1339 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Meyer had to sit down and meet with James Robinson, 1340 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 1: and urban Meyer came out saying it was just such 1341 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: a fantastic meeting. Oh wow, like what a connection we made. 1342 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't buy a word he says, like I'm gonna 1343 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 1: start doing that now all the time. It's like what 1344 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: he is. So it took. It took James Robinson very 1345 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: politely answering questions, going out of his way to try 1346 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: to not make it an issue during some radio appearance, 1347 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: uh where the guys were kind of peppering them on 1348 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: it and asking him about Erban Myke. It took that 1349 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: happening and then becoming a local story for urban Meyer 1350 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: then to set this meeting with his running back and 1351 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: then afterwards like I'm gonna change how I do everything 1352 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start meeting with all my players weekly 1353 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: on the regular because this was so good, Like what 1354 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: is going on here. Um, it's a mess, that's what 1355 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: it is. And the Jaguars have a tricky situation on 1356 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: their hair hands financially there to say the least, the Titans, 1357 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: go win a game, Go win a football game. Go 1358 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 1: do it, Mike Frabel, your defense shut down the Jaguars 1359 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: who just want to go home during what's been a 1360 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,919 Speaker 1: miserable year. And then if you do, it's five more games. 1361 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: You're nine and four and then you're in the mix 1362 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: in the a f C. The for the top seed 1363 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: is crazy as that sounds. And like one thing, when 1364 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: I was watching Monday Night Football and you're watching the 1365 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Patriots bully the the Bills and the trenches, It's like, 1366 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 1: what's the team in the a f C that would 1367 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: be able to go punch for punch to the mouth 1368 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: with with the Patriots in January? It's the Titans. But 1369 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: they gotta get healthy and they got to survive this 1370 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 1: stretch of their schedule. Maybe the Colts. Maybe, maybe it's 1371 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: another one. Any other thoughts on this one, Mark, I 1372 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: know you've said it all, all right, Let's move on 1373 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: then to Greg closing out the draft. I am closing 1374 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: out the draft with a pick of a game this week. 1375 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Let's go back up. Falcons Panthers is my last game. 1376 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I know it's a sad state of affairs. Has there 1377 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: ever been a worse game just in terms of, like 1378 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the the actual quality of the teams? That's on December 1379 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: twelve or later between two teams that are very much 1380 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt because I know we don't believe 1381 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: in these teams, but I mean, outside of like five 1382 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: other games this week, but now, but not two teams 1383 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this like this, The Falcons and the Panthers are seven 1384 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: and thirty second in overall d v o A, so 1385 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: that paints them as two of the worst five or 1386 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: six teams in the league. And the record still isn't 1387 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 1: that good, Like they don't deserve to be five and seven, 1388 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's not a good record. But in the NFC 1389 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: this year, that's only one game out, So one of 1390 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 1: these teams is gonna have at least another week of 1391 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 1: a stay of execution. And I can't decide if I 1392 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: think like Cam Newton is just a little cooked or 1393 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: whether he's gonna have a chance in this game where 1394 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: the Panthers played bullyball the first time around, is a 1395 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: very memorable game. Uh to me, at least just they 1396 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: did the Patriots Bill's plan a little quieter. They ran 1397 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: at about forties seven times and let Sam Donald throw 1398 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 1: it uh in the teens uh and won that game 1399 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta and dominated the Falcons offensive line because when 1400 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 1: the Falcons play a team that has any pass rush, 1401 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: usually they think there are differences. Though, I mean the 1402 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Panthers right now are like a bad psilocybin voyage. They 1403 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,679 Speaker 1: just fired Joe Brady, who we went into this season 1404 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: calling one of the best play callers in the league, 1405 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: potentially a head coach candidate. I think Matt Rules. I 1406 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: thought Joe Brady what like what he He came in 1407 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: with as much acclaim from the college game as anyone 1408 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: in years, and there were sparks last year, but there 1409 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: were also Teddy Bridgewater issues saying that the you know, 1410 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: the red zone stuff. I mean Matt Rule basically said 1411 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: he wanted to get creative and do things differently, and 1412 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: he fires Joe Brady right now it's not working out. 1413 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,440 Speaker 1: This has got to be one of the more disappointing 1414 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: teams around. To your point, Greg that like their record, 1415 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: the three and oh start feels like a thousand years 1416 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: ago at this point because the defense has been okay. 1417 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the defense has let them down in spots, 1418 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: but they've been okay. Fire and Joe Brady on the 1419 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Sunday during a bye week is a wild move. It 1420 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: really is Matt rule. I believe thinking if I'm gonna 1421 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: go down, I'm gonna go down doing it my way. 1422 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 1: And ultimately I hired this guy didn't really know that 1423 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: well and he said that was the first time he 1424 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: did that, that he didn't regret it. It was like, actually, yes, 1425 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 1: you do regret it. That's that's what you do when 1426 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: you fire something like it. And yeah, to Mark's point, 1427 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 1: like the Broncos for instance, and I brought this up 1428 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,799 Speaker 1: a couple times of the season. It feels like Broncos 1429 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: aren't having a great season. But when you start out 1430 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: three and oh, it allows you to stay afloat as 1431 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: long as you don't become pitiful. Immediately after the Panthers 1432 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 1: became pitiful. They've lost seven of nine since starting three 1433 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: and oh, hence their record five and seven. That's math 1434 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: nailed it. And they are now in a position where like, yeah, 1435 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: I think I might have to flip my pick for 1436 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: this game. I took the Panthers. But I think there's 1437 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: something about this Falcons team that they're like, they're gonna 1438 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: be like seven and ten at the end, and they 1439 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: when they should have been too, and they've actually been 1440 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 1: an overachieving seven and ten. I wonder in the end 1441 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: rule to make kind of I don't know, some type 1442 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: of bold declaration here gives it to Chuba Hubbard thirty 1443 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: seven times in this game. Well, that's what they were 1444 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 1: starting to do, and then you lose Christian McCaffrey in 1445 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: the middle of it. By the way, Joe Brady put 1446 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: into a bit of a tough situation with the quarterback 1447 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: team building scenario. It's like you you, and Rule was 1448 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: like publicly saying it after certain games when their season 1449 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: started to spiral. It's like, we need to run the ball, 1450 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: and we're going to run the ball. Trust me, we're 1451 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 1: running the ball, which is basically, hey, offensive coordinator, listen 1452 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: to me. We need to run the ball. But it's 1453 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: like you're not mentioning that Christian McCaffrey's now missed two 1454 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: straight years, and it's like Cuba Hubbard and whoever the 1455 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: hell else is back there. It's like that's a tough 1456 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 1: situation to put an offensive coordinator. Absolutely, and yet the 1457 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: success of Jamaar Chase, Justin Jefferson and Joe Burrow in 1458 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: the pros should absolutely redistribute all the credit that Joe 1459 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Brady was getting for historic LSU team for summer. We 1460 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 1: we love giving the coaches so much credit when it's 1461 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: mostly about the players. Those are two incredible players at 1462 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the same college team at the height 1463 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 1: of their powers, quarterbacked by a number one overall draft 1464 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: pick who's gonna become a top ten NFL quarterback. Like 1465 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: I could have offensive coordinated that team to a pretty 1466 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: good record. Well, you could have gotten fired too. I 1467 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: think you know we all could have. I don't think 1468 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: we quite understand what I don't mean literally, but I'm 1469 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: saying if you just throw in your average college coaching 1470 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: Sam Donald for six weeks and see where we are pressing, 1471 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 1: I would I would delegate. I would delegate quite a bit. 1472 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: I think your average college coach at any level would 1473 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,560 Speaker 1: have had great success with those three players. That is 1474 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: not a controver, just like slightly dismiss it, but it's 1475 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 1: players matter, Like what else you would matter is not 1476 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: a controversial, right concept. But like you've just taken the 1477 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: man's like resume and said he's a straw man. He 1478 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 1: was saying he got he got way be rated for that. 1479 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: And I refuse to defend the Jets on any level. 1480 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 1: Um how they've made organizational decisions. But the reason Matt 1481 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 1: Rule didn't take the Jet shop is because they didn't 1482 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: let him pick his own staff. And that's a ridiculous 1483 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: way to treat any candidates. Dan Is coming back and 1484 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: scoring a point in an argument a year ago where 1485 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: the Jets got a lot of grief for keeping Gayson 1486 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: going because of his lack of NFL experience. That was 1487 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 1: why they were that way. Joe Joe Brady led one 1488 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 1: of the great passing attacks ever and then Rule hired 1489 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: him to run a run based offense. It's it's an 1490 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: interesting decision. All right, we keep moving, but first a break. 1491 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,680 Speaker 1: All right, we're back Seahawks of Texans. I'm I'm not 1492 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: messing around. I'm telling you Bears and Packers will be 1493 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: the last game we talked about. Seahawks at Texans. Jamal 1494 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Adams out for the year. Um, so you lose him, 1495 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: but you get the Texans their worst team in football 1496 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: any thoughts on this game. The only thing I had 1497 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,440 Speaker 1: that caught my eye Texans wise this week was Nickissario, 1498 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: their general manager, at being asked about David Culley coming back, 1499 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: and he was like about as noncommittal as you can get. Yeah, 1500 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: and like Seattle, I mean you're gonna get Davis Mills 1501 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 1: for the for the Texans again. I mean, if you're Seattle, 1502 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: your season is over. In my book, that Jamal Adams 1503 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: thing is an exclamation point on a trade that went 1504 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 1: totally south for them as the organization starts to fade 1505 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: into the later years of an organization under Pete Carroll. 1506 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Wins for the Jets who have like a you know, 1507 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 1: winning percentage the last two years, but that ended up 1508 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: being the right move as well. Uh Joe Douglas from 1509 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: President it is a big day for you actually screen 1510 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: A lot of the Seahawks get another week of um 1511 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: like the slightest life if they win this game, because 1512 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: the second they won that game against the forty nine 1513 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: is not only did Pete Carroll give like an impassioned, 1514 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: like we're still live speech in the locker room where 1515 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: he looked like they had won the Super Bowl, all 1516 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 1: of Seahawks Twitter that I followed immediately made the corner 1517 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: too from the like, well, you never know, maybe we 1518 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: can go on this run here because eight and nine 1519 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 1: might for a decade. So for if you win this game, 1520 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 1: you get one more week of that before the Rams game, 1521 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 1: where you feel like, maybe we can make a run. 1522 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: What if the Rams get wiped out by the Cardinals 1523 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 1: and they're in a free fall. They didn't really look 1524 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 1: The Seahawks looked weird last week. I did not get 1525 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: the feeling that they solved their offensive problems, even though 1526 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: they did look good when they were up tempo. I 1527 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: kind of don't even trust them to like cover eight 1528 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: points against a sneaky first sexans the conversation over. That's right, 1529 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: So let's move on the Lions at Broncos. Greg, give 1530 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 1: me something another one where it's very tough. Do you 1531 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: really trust the Broncos to cover eight against an NFL team? 1532 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't. They've done it how many times this year? Twice? 1533 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 1: Notice how Greg defaults to a betting program whenever you 1534 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: just throw it to them open ended. Well, because that's 1535 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,759 Speaker 1: I gotta make the picks on NFL dot Com slash 1536 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: game picks, and I really only care about the A T. S. 1537 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 1: And so that's that's what keeps me up at night. 1538 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,679 Speaker 1: It's not the I mean, I'm gonna pick the Broncos 1539 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 1: to win this game. I don't trust them to make 1540 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: it a blow out necessarily. They've won four or five 1541 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 1: blow out games weirdly, actually, if the first three weeks 1542 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,879 Speaker 1: of the season, like the Cowboys, the Chargers very recently, 1543 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: so like that. Those are teams with winning records, so 1544 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 1: it happens. Uh And yet the Lions actually, if you 1545 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: look at since the bye week, they I don't think 1546 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: they've given up more than twenty points. They've been in 1547 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: every single game until the final play, so they could 1548 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: be better than one ten and one. Uh. Here lately 1549 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Jared goff mc miss practice with an illness. That would 1550 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 1: change things obviously if he was at all right. They 1551 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: beat the Giants, Jaguars and Jets and those blowouts so 1552 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: and Cowboys and the Chargers two of the last four weeks. 1553 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 1: I think we effectively unless they want to really do 1554 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 1: like the you know, the villain and a horror movie 1555 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 1: thing and come back to life. The Broncos essentially were 1556 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: put under on Sunday, right, But I get it all 1557 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: I was saying is they're capable of blots. They have 1558 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,799 Speaker 1: blown out more good team then many teams with winning 1559 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: records this year, right, I mean, it's a weird thing. 1560 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,879 Speaker 1: We do not want the Denver Broncos in the playoffs. 1561 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna be seven and six if they win this game. 1562 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: We don't any they could lose. We don't want to 1563 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 1: waste the Saturday playoff game the Lions. I wonder if 1564 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Vick Fongio you could be saying goodbye sooner than expected. Finally, last, 1565 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 1: but least, the Chicago Bears are playing Sunday night football 1566 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. Not flexed. Aaron Rodgers is 1567 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a big ticket item. The Packers are a big ticket item. 1568 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:38,800 Speaker 1: They have a major um pop obviously nationally as well 1569 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 1: as regionally, and they have a chance now to move 1570 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: to ten and three and really put the pressure. Uh 1571 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: So they play Sunday night. The Cards play Monday night. 1572 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: So they're gonna destroy the Bears. Let's be honest here, 1573 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: They'll win about thirty seven to ten. We'll have to 1574 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: sit through the game for three and a half hours. 1575 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 1: Fields is returning great, and then the Cardinals will go 1576 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 1: play the Ams. A feisty uh Rams team that needs 1577 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 1: a win, knowing that the Packers will be not just 1578 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: tied with them for the number one seed, but if 1579 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals lost, it is the Packers that are the 1580 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,679 Speaker 1: number one seed because they have the head to head 1581 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: tiebreaker with four games to play, so the stakes are high. Packers, 1582 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 1: of course, have to take care business first. I see 1583 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: our fandom, um a four in a road there in 1584 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 1: our fandom. I am very excited about the Cardinals. You 1585 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 1: have a Packers fetish that is raging not too far 1586 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 1: below the surface. I like, I like watch see the difference. 1587 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 1: Like the Packers are what the Chiefs used to be, 1588 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,799 Speaker 1: Like a fun offensive attack playing for an old school 1589 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: franchise with a lot of history and then a historic 1590 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: quarterback Like I like that stuff. Like as a Jets van, 1591 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't get any of that stuff, so if I 1592 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,559 Speaker 1: could find it elsewhere, I'll take it, put it into 1593 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,919 Speaker 1: my vein. And like Arizona, I think a very balanced 1594 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: team and I find them much more likable because the 1595 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: defense isn't hanging them out to dry week to week mvs. 1596 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Last couple of games, nineteen targets. I mean there, I 1597 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: trust them to take care of business. I don't even 1598 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 1: to think about it. They're gonna watch I'm with you, 1599 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: And yet I was thinking, Okay, they're gonna come back 1600 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: from the by and it's like, when are we gonna 1601 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: start getting this mythical Packers team with bak tr and 1602 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: Alexander at cornerback and then Zadarius Smith. It's like they're 1603 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: still not back. Uh. Aaron Rodgers still not practicing and 1604 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: says he feels a lot better. That's good, but still 1605 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: not practicing. Randall Cobb actually has a new injury and 1606 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: he is officially out for this game. Uh. Not that 1607 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 1: not that he's like, but he is. He's not the 1608 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,640 Speaker 1: biggest baron Aaron Rodgers. But when you look at like 1609 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the receivers with the most red zone targets, there's some 1610 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: type of stat where he is with like five of 1611 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: the best receivers in the league, and then Randall Cobb. 1612 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I wish I had the staff, but just to paint 1613 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 1: a picture that Aaron Rodgers makes it a point to 1614 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 1: make sure Randall that's his you know, executive of the year. 1615 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: He Aaron Rodgers. But but Cobb had a great game 1616 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: when he got before I got injured. I believe in 1617 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 1: this running game though, and I the reason I am 1618 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,679 Speaker 1: with Dan like I love watching this team every week 1619 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 1: now is because of the Aaron Rodgers thing. He played 1620 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 1: his best two games of the season. I thought, by 1621 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 1: far in a row before that, by so I want 1622 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 1: to see if that keeps going. I am happy that 1623 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is back, Justin Fields is back, an achiem 1624 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Hicks is back. There's been so many of these Sunday 1625 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: night Bears Packers games, and none of them I feel 1626 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 1: like they have been good. Give me a good one. 1627 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: And you were in London when I was. As much 1628 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 1: as I like the Packers, I want to see Justin 1629 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Fields put thirty up on them, just to haven't I 1630 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 1: get it? Like the Midwest deserves these, like old school 1631 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 1: rivalries in a big spot. I just wish the Bears 1632 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 1: would and I could have flexed this. That's I think 1633 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 1: why there was anything. It was fair that it's a 1634 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 1: good it's a good ratings game. We love the Midwest. 1635 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: We love you guys, great people, very nice, very nice. 1636 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Um spot. I have a lot of family in Chicago. 1637 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 1: Do you know the interesting mom said um before? Because Greg, 1638 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I know you got you were itching a little bit there. 1639 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,719 Speaker 1: What does the Rainmaker lock of the week this week 1640 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 1: the rain Maker. But you can't just call for that, 1641 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm not you know, throwing it out 1642 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: there so it's not official, doesn't look better glasses. This 1643 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Well what is it? What's the game? You 1644 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 1: feel the most confident? Yeah? No, I was trying to 1645 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 1: look to see it and it wasn't popping off the 1646 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,640 Speaker 1: top of my head. You know, Greg, I listened to 1647 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 1: these gambling shows on Saturday on AM Radio. Well they're 1648 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: coming with changing some fires. You have a little more 1649 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,560 Speaker 1: to build confidence in the potential. If I had, I 1650 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 1: would have thrown it out as a thing there was. 1651 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 1: It might be Cowboys. I think it might be. I 1652 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: think I might be covering the Cowboys. That's the Rainmaker 1653 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: lock of the Week. No, I don't feel that strong. 1654 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 1: That's not that's not selling the brand I do. Like. 1655 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if that Jake from Game gets to uh 1656 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 1: Sunday here nine and a half, I don't think you 1657 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: could make that line big enough. They're the giants. There 1658 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: you go, there's another one. I think we need to. 1659 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna workshop this and it would be 1660 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: good to end every Thursday show with the Rainmaker Lock 1661 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 1: of the Week, right, catching you off guard might not 1662 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 1: have been. We get a sponsor for it, you know, 1663 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: we see like the McAfee thing, like he just pulled 1664 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 1: that deal. If we can get the sponsorship, you know, 1665 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Draft Kings presents the Rainmaker Lock of the Week, like 1666 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: we're rolling in it. They'd give us three uncertain um 1667 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 1: all right, Like Adam Shine by the way, I was 1668 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: listening to Serious yesterday, uh waiting for that to do 1669 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 1: that appearance thing, and Adam Shine they throw it to 1670 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 1: him and it's like a nice sixty second nugget. I'm 1671 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Adam Shine. I've been doing this for seventeen years. I've 1672 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 1: been picking a lock and it never goes wrong. And 1673 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: this week I'm banging and needed like a college game. 1674 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: I think, like that's what we need. I'm telling you 1675 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 1: you were caught off guard. I defend you on that 1676 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: because I'm ranking. Um, I don't know. I don't do 1677 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: like Marx Lock of the Cardinals. By the way, quite 1678 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,519 Speaker 1: a bit too, that come off as me being critical, 1679 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying I smell a hit here 1680 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 1: and maybe next week next I mean, or you could 1681 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 1: look at it the other way, which is that rate. 1682 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,560 Speaker 1: The rainmaker bit has been gone for a couple of 1683 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: years now. Basically, I'm making the choice each and every 1684 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: week to not do it. So that's a conscious choice. 1685 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Just threw her hands up behind the glass. That's that's 1686 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,960 Speaker 1: a tough setch. I thought it was good, but all right, 1687 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Gregg decided it should be over. That's you love it, 1688 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 1: you do it. You do it when you feel it, 1689 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 1: when you feel it in your bones. Welcome to life. 1690 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: Here we go. That is the week fourteen slate. Uh 1691 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,840 Speaker 1: tonight Thursday Night, Steelers Vikings, Me and the Quiet Story. 1692 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that one on Friday mornings. I 1693 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: always try to listen to that TNF recap on my 1694 01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: drive in Marker. Not every week, but I do a 1695 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of times. Me Mark Seessler Pete Jorn will be 1696 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,080 Speaker 1: on the mic to talk Thursday night football recap Steelers Vikings. 1697 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 1: Get get excited. You're you're looking at me. I am 1698 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 1: mildly excited to be It's kind of a fun one. 1699 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I suspect you guys are gonna get a lot to 1700 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,599 Speaker 1: talk about. That's my prediction. I'm in all right, Ricky, 1701 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: let's go. H It really does look like an accounting 1702 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 1: the rain Lager bid is such a great way to 1703 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 1: close this Thursday show, Just think about it. Sure, but 1704 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: you could have done this off the air. The call