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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on this show, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about mash pits, animals who prefer to stick together or

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Speaker 1: get sticky together. We're looking at three of the world's

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Speaker 1: weirdest creepy Crawley's who think three is a crowd and

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Speaker 1: a hundred is a party. Discover this and more as

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Speaker 1: we answer the age old question if you send your

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Speaker 1: boot packing, do you have to give it directions? Joining

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Speaker 1: me today is Friend of the Pod, the audio genius

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Speaker 1: behind Fake Doctor's Real Friends, Boss Level and One Upmanship.

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Speaker 1: DJ Daniel Welcome. Happy to be here, Katie, A thrilling,

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Speaker 1: a thrilling proposition, as always to be here on Creature Feature. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this one because it's about mash pits,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're always getting in those all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, me always thrashing my arms around, getting sweaty

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Speaker 1: and flicking that sweat upon all of my fellow concert goers.

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Speaker 1: You like a sprinkler, It's great they call you Dandle

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Speaker 1: the sprinkler, the human sprinkler. At least this, at least this, this,

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Speaker 1: this family flop sweat is good for something. Sure, So

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Speaker 1: tell me about these bugs? Yeah, stoked. Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 1: talking about a lot of bugs. Some of them are

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Speaker 1: not insects, but we'll call them all bugs. Uh and sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's that's misnomber for sure. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think you can call anything a bug. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that bug is a scientific term. So like,

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Speaker 1: if you feel like it's a bug and you want

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Speaker 1: to call it a bug, I think that's fine. Insect

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Speaker 1: is a scientific term, so you can't like go throwing

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Speaker 1: that around. But bugs, you know, if something's like buggy

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Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, that's a bug. I feel like

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Speaker 1: crabs have bug energy. I know that most people don't

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Speaker 1: call them, but they've got bug energy. Sea bugs, sky bugs,

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Speaker 1: land bugs. Yeah exactly. So these are called snow fleas.

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Speaker 1: So imagine you are digging up some snowballs and suddenly

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Speaker 1: you dig up a writhing, squirming mass of tiny black

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Speaker 1: I think my snow day would be over at that

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Speaker 1: point I would be. I would run screaming back to

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Speaker 1: video of someone just digging into a black hole of

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Speaker 1: these riving little black dots. Yeah, just having them els

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Speaker 1: a scoop. Yeah. Really, And you know this is something

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Speaker 1: the bugs or these these creatures are not trying to

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Speaker 1: hurt you, and in fact, you may not even be

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Speaker 1: hurting them. Similar to um, there's a there's a person

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Speaker 1: on TikTok who is who takes care of bees and

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Speaker 1: the way that she just scoops bees up and puts

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Speaker 1: like hand in bug, No, no thank you. I don't

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Speaker 1: are instead spring tales. So spring tales are a subclass

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Speaker 1: of arthropod UH known as columbola UH. They are technically

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Speaker 1: a species of springtail that live in seasonally cold climates

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Speaker 1: a good metric, because you're absolutely right. Yeah, it's the

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Speaker 1: the eyeball or get we're getting somewhere with that one.

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Speaker 1: in colder times they are actually able to survive the

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Speaker 1: freezing snow because they have an anti freeze like protein

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Speaker 1: And when your cells explode, it's generally bad for you.

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Speaker 1: That's popsicles for cannibals. That's a great that's a great

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Speaker 1: band name, right, popsicles for cannibals. I like that a lot. Damn.

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Speaker 1: applied to like the storage of donor organs, but much

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Speaker 1: not the only superpower that spring tails have. They can also,

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Speaker 1: But to understand how they do that, we kind of

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Speaker 1: a clicker and it's over. Yeah anyway, Sorry, please your

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Speaker 1: face is just an error message. I am enjoying that. Yeah,

423
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: I have one of those little rotate I have on

424
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: my face right now that windows like sounding windows like,

425
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: but we're experiencing problem. Yeah. So they are found in

426
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: the oceans near the Pacific Islands and Indonesia, and they

427
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: are a species of marine worm. They are a polykeet

428
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: in the same class as bristle worms, bobbit worms, and

429
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: certain deep sea tube worms. Now bobbit worms we've talked

430
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: about before on the podcast. They are those horrifying mixture

431
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: between like a really long sarlac pit because they hide

432
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: in the sand on the seabed and then we'll burrow

433
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: down because they can be quite long, and then they

434
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: pop out, grab fish and pull them down into their burrows.

435
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: So um, horrifying. And you know, cousins to the pololo worms,

436
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: so their cousins can be pretty weird and wild too.

437
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: But pololo worms have a very bizarre life cycle, one

438
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: of the weirdest ones that I know about. Uh. They

439
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: start off as tiny planktonic larva, which is not unusual

440
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: for marine life. Lots of marine life starts out as zooplankton,

441
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: little little tiny guys that just bhoop around the ocean.

442
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: But then they develop into an adult. They grow into

443
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: a long segmented worm with a weird claw like head. Uh.

444
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: And they are not small. They can grow to be

445
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: around sixteen inches or forty centimeters long. Yeah, they're pretty. Yeah,

446
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: they're they seem significant in terms of their like size

447
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: that they're definitely not tiny little guys. You will you

448
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: would not miss them, You absolutely would not miss them.

449
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: They like to settle into the crevices of a coral reef,

450
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So they go head first into like a little sort

451
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: of nook or cranny in the coral reef and kind

452
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: of burrowed in there. All right. So there, so the

453
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: coral is their home or is that just a okay, cool?

454
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: It's their home. I mean it's it's sort of typical

455
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: weird marine war warm lifestyle so far, Like they're they're

456
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: weird looking, kind of creepy. They're in coral all standard

457
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: for the ocean. Are they mostly found in places like

458
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: Australia where there's a lot of coral reef? Um? Are

459
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: they kind of all over? Yeah, they're mostly found so

460
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: like they're found uh, near the Polynesian Islands, they're near Indonesia.

461
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: They're I think they some of them are sort of

462
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: in uh the ocean somewhat near Australia. So yeah, it's

463
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: it's like in these warmer coral uh corally areas. I

464
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know if coraly is a word, but yeah, none, yeah,

465
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: poorly coral lue, coral line. I'm with you. So this

466
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: is where stuff gets weird. After they are adults and

467
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: then they want to reproduce, they go into another stage

468
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: of their lives, uh and kind of transform into their

469
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: reproductive form. So their muscles and heads start to atrophy

470
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, and there in segments which contain reproductive

471
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: organs grow, and their legs become more paddle like, and

472
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: eventually these in segments detached from the head and are

473
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: able to swim on their own. So this free swimming

474
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: butt section is called the epitope, and it will alone

475
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: without the head, swim up to the surface of the

476
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: ocean to reproduce. So it what So the reproductive organ

477
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: is a kind of like its own creature? Yes, what

478
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: is it? Does it? WHOA? Okay? Does it? So? Is

479
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: it just the reproductive organs or does it like is

480
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: it kind of like a like a cell? Splitting where

481
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: like you're getting some you know, does it have it?

482
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Does it Does it have its own like brain nervous

483
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: system or something like that, or is it just it

484
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: has Yeah, it's got its own like nerves. It's got

485
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of legs. Um. I think it even has

486
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: some like sensory light sensing cells. Uh. And so I

487
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: don't think it has like a central brain. No, but

488
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: it has like neurons um and some connections happening there. Right.

489
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: It's like as if you basically like detached your lower

490
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: half like belly button down, and it ran off and

491
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: went to go mate, yeah, without you having to be involved.

492
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: So fun. Well that's I mean, you know, that's that's

493
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: the part I don't never want to experience, the actual

494
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: reproduction part. I kind of just wanted to happen. So

495
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: if I could take all the more fun for me,

496
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: I could say in my computer looking at memes, it's

497
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: it's a waste of time and boring. So the uh,

498
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the head part doesn't always die typically it actually can

499
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: regrow a new in segment. Um. Yeah. So the but

500
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: as this like as this posterior segment goes off on

501
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: its own like like nice now and you see, it

502
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: goes to the surface, it will meet up with a

503
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: bunch of other posterior segments all there for the same reason,

504
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: and they like kind of explode, They sort of disintegrate

505
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: and like just kind of fault. These segments kind of

506
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: like pop apart, and there's this mass soup of sperm

507
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: and eggs that just kind of mingles together to form

508
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: the new babies m soup. Yeah. In fact, okay, so

509
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: the palolo worm is on a very precise and consistent

510
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: time schedule following moon fade. This is after apparently October eighth,

511
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: during the third quarter moon, for just a couple hours.

512
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so specific. Yes, and because

513
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: of this, people who live in the area have recognized

514
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the habits of the pololo warm over centuries. And apparently,

515
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: I know you grimaced when I called this a soup,

516
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: but apparently these epitopes, the butt segments are quite delicious.

517
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: So people will go out during this special time and

518
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: catch them with nuts and so you are kind of

519
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: eating like, um, you know, reproductive organs. But we eat

520
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: caviar in row all the time, and those are reproduct

521
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: those are eggs. You know, you're you're right, You're right.

522
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be so young yucky with my interpretation of

523
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: these things, because at first, when you said they're delicious,

524
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: I was expecting, like, yes, delicious to fish or to

525
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: other creatures of the seed that might you know, just

526
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: be just be out there snacking. Um. But wow, we'd

527
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: be eating this stuff. Okay? Is it is it a

528
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: m Is it like a delicacy to any particular region?

529
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that I've eaten this before and

530
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. I don't know. I think it's

531
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: more in the Polynesian Islands area. Uh so there, Yes,

532
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: it is very much delicacy. It's like it's because it

533
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: only happens like you know, this rare time every year.

534
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Uh that it's like and you know, you can collect

535
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: quite a bit over this period of time. Uh, And

536
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I think that they do. They go with every third

537
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: moon cycle after October eight, so there might be like

538
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: a a few periods of time before they stop. But

539
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: still it's like very rare. It only happens like a

540
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: couple of hours when they come up and do this.

541
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: You gotta catch them while you can. And apparently they're

542
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: very very rich in protein. I mean, like an egg.

543
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: It's very high in protein, so I imagine they have

544
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: a very like ummmy flavor, very rich protein flavor, and

545
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: are apparently extremely good. I've never tried any. Don't tempt

546
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: me with a good time. I mean, I'm into it. Look,

547
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: you know your food. You've got to have an open mind.

548
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: And once I once I learned something might might be

549
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: delicious and might be food, you gotta go ship. I'm down.

550
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Who didn't look at salmon Roe for the first time,

551
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: look at a little a little kora and be like,

552
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, and then you put it

553
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: in your mouth and you're like, damn. Actually, these little

554
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: explosions of flavor are incredible, right, Yeah, I mean all

555
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: our all our food, so much of our food is

556
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: very weird, and our understanding, our understanding of weirdness is

557
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: very cultural. I mean, like with milk, it's like, yeah,

558
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: this is coming out of a cow nipple. I'm going

559
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: to drink that, you know it. In fact, I'm just

560
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: going to start eating the cow's ass. You're just gonna

561
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: eat that booty. There's there's there's so many things that

562
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I have to like, credit are our for our ancestors

563
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: for for having the gall and the bravery to be like,

564
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: let me do this thing, because like, without them, we

565
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't have literally anything today. Think about sandwiches, Think about

566
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: how many steps we have to go through to get

567
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: to bread and then if you want to go, if

568
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: you want to go really quote unquote science with me

569
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: right here, I think about how many steps it took

570
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: for us to get to like bonds, how much how

571
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: much work do we have to do to get to Okay?

572
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: But then what about this, this and this? Yeah we

573
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: had there's a lot of cultivation, their understanding of glass,

574
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: lots of lots of things that had to to to

575
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: lock into place. But yeah, we'll stick with We'll stick

576
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: with food and sandwiches for now and not go too

577
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: deep down the stone or rabbit hole of can you

578
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: believe they did this to make this thing? Bro? Dude?

579
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Sand think about glass? What do anyway? You just think

580
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: about sand and how many of them there are? Well

581
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: that is awesome. Now I'm hungry, So I want to

582
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: talk about larval conveyor belts. Are you ready? Belts? Larval

583
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: conveyor belts another cool sounding thing. So uh, first I

584
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: gotta tell you what a soft fly is. So soft

585
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: flies aren't flies? Or bees or wasps, even though they

586
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: kind of look like all three of those things somehow, weirdly,

587
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: they are actually a distinct suborder of Hymenoptera, and they

588
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: are named after the saw like ovipositor. So an ovipositor

589
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: is like this tube on the butt of female that

590
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: is used to deposit eggs um. And so she uses

591
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: that sali like ovipositor to saw into a plant and

592
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: lay her eggs um. And there are many different species

593
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: of soft flies all over the world. But the reason

594
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about soft flies is that their

595
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: larva are often very social. Now, their larva look like caterpillars, uh,

596
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: and they are usually quite social and they tend to

597
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: stick together and it's cute and horrible at the same time,

598
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: which is my favorite feeling. I love that they look

599
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: like an enemy popping out of a tree. Yes, yes,

600
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: So what you are looking at right now is a

601
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: fascinating thing because this is it looks like one organism

602
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: right like an m or a living fleshy flower. And

603
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like twitching, it's like jumping, like unfurling in this

604
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: like coordinated pulsating movement. This is actually a cluster of

605
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: soft fly larva uh moving in Unison, and the thought

606
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: is that by moving in Unison, they are a warding

607
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: off potential attackers. Interesting. Interesting, I mean, I'll tell you this,

608
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm certainly warded off by seeing this. I would not

609
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: be going over there being like touch thing. Absolutely not. Yeah,

610
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I know that I would have to drag my dog

611
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: Kelly away from it, though I'd be like, yeah, you're

612
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: not with that right now. Dogs find the weirdest, most disgusting,

613
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: probably most dangerous thing in their perimeter and immediately put

614
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: it in their mouth like that, Oh, this thing looks

615
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: fun Like my dog found a turd with a cigarette

616
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: stuck into it like a birthday candle and immediately like

617
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: it like dove for it. I had to like nank

618
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: her back because she's like, that's it's my birthday to

619
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: the happy birthday in the cookie. Time for me to

620
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: eat that thing. That's so funny and disgusting. But yeah,

621
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: I support you, a fellow dog on her I support you, yes, um,

622
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: But yeah no, this absolutely looks like a see an

623
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: enemy um but on a tree. But it's also made

624
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: up of a bunch of these individual larva um and

625
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: and again they're like they're kind of they're chunky like

626
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: they're like caterpillars. They're not tiny guys, um very much

627
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: like a yellow caterpillar. And again imagine four our view

628
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: our listeners at home, imagine truly like a kind of

629
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: a cluster of small yellow caterpillars sticking out long ways

630
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: out of a tree in a little group, and like

631
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: a handwave near them makes them all go Like if

632
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: you can imagine what that noise sounds like in terms

633
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: of wiggling action. That is the scientific term for that movement.

634
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: It's spelled with a lot of ohs and a lot

635
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: of uh gotta yeah. So they will form what is

636
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: known as a rolling swarm where they crawl all over

637
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: each other and it protects them from attacks by predators. Um.

638
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: And it is really interesting to see both when it

639
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: is sped up and also in real time movement, both

640
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: pretty horrifying looking but also there. To me, it's cute

641
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: because it's just a bunch of a little guys crawling

642
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: all over each other trying to go forward. It's yeah,

643
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a there's a group. A group

644
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: think elements to their to their movements and whatnot, but um, yeah,

645
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I can't can't get over the I need to can't

646
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: get over the demon back away from me. Kind of

647
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: a thing I'm thinking right here. I think, honestly my

648
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: theme or not my theme, but there's a trope of

649
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: me on this show that is like, I'm so scared

650
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: of bugs, and like, in truth, I don't think I

651
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: am that's scared of bugs, but I do stray away

652
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: from interaction with bugs as much as possible, and that's

653
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: just unfortunately factual. I think it's not a bad idea.

654
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: I think it's worse if you're like me and you

655
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: like have this compulsion to pick up every weird bug

656
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you see, and then later find out that this was,

657
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: oh this is a kissing beetle, or this is a

658
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: kissing bug. This could have actually really hurt me. I

659
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: should not have touched that. I just kind of like,

660
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: I kind of like I want to touch everything. I

661
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: want to pick everything up. So I guess me and

662
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: my dog are not so different, are we? Maybe not?

663
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: But you know what we need people like you do.

664
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: If people like me survive long enough, touching bugs protects

665
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: Katie at all costs. Um. But yeah, by moving in

666
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: unison kind of I'm trying to think I feel like

667
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of Miyazaki movies where he

668
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: does this kind of thing. I think he's done it

669
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: in a few of his movies in Howel's Moving Castle

670
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: and Princess Mononoke, where it's like a bunch of like

671
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: little slugs kind of like coming coalescing together and moving

672
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: in Unison. Yes, it's a little stomach turning. It is,

673
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: most certainly especially in monok when it's like the writhing

674
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: disease on Htuka's arm. Not my favorite. No, it's a

675
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: little gross looking, but in this case it's effective because

676
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: they are able to make themselves seem like a larger

677
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: organism also probably make it difficult for a predator to

678
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: pick out anyone individual. Um. There's also remember earlier when

679
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: you were speculating that maybe those snow fleas gathered together

680
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: for heat. Indeed, that was not a stupid guest, because

681
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: there is research on these guys on the soft fly

682
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: larva that they do gather together to benefit from each

683
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: other's body heat. So I was just a little early

684
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: with my predictions, that's right, that's right, accurate, but early.

685
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: So there was some speculation. When I say some speculation,

686
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: it's really just kind of one guy on YouTube, YouTuber

687
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: named Dustin who that's speculation, nonetheless, that is that is speculation, nonetheless,

688
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of it. People are saying, um, well,

689
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: really it's just one people on YouTube. And he did

690
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: this experiment with like moving legos because he saw like

691
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: these larva as this sort of like living conveyor belt,

692
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: and he speculates that maybe they're able to move faster

693
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: like that because basically they are moving on top of

694
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: each other and then the bottom ones also moving, but

695
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: then they rotate and so they're kind of like it's

696
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: like when you're you know, like at the airport, when

697
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: you're walking on the flat escalator. I don't know what

698
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: those are called people mover. I guess okay, wow, we

699
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: didn't think of anything more creative than that. Huh. People

700
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: move all right, but where it's like you're walking, usually

701
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: for me, I'm walking on the people mover because it's

702
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: the airport, and I'm always in a rush and always straight,

703
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: keep going right. But you're walking, but the thing under

704
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: you is also moving, so you're going very fast compared

705
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: to your normal walking speed. And so the idea is

706
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: the same here Unfortunately, I haven't seen any real like

707
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: research studies on the actual larva, just this one YouTubers

708
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: like Lego experiment, which is cool. I'm not like, I'm

709
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: not saying it's not cool. It's very cool. But it's

710
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: at this point just this one ded speculation, which I

711
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: think is great. That's where stuff starts, that's where research starts.

712
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to see hoping to see more research

713
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: on it because that would be that would be great. Yeah,

714
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: well definitely it definitely want to see. Definitely want to

715
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: see more. Um. I just like seeing you know, things

716
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: working together. That that's what I'm about, all about mutual

717
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: aid here and all of that community and seeing these things,

718
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, crawl over each other to get forward, but

719
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: still move as a group. It's very it feels very

720
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: anti capitalist. It's not so much it's not so much

721
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I use you to get further up top. It's we

722
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: moved together as a unit and that's we like that

723
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: team makes the dream warm. Wow, nailed it. Technically I

724
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: guess these aren't worms though, so I'm sorry. Please don't

725
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: email me the the you know, some some some Twitter

726
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: nerds might might get in your d ms. But these

727
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: ones are too busy working together to make progress for

728
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: their own group. So think about that. Twitter. I've actually

729
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: found that my audience is very very sweet and their

730
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: corrections are often extremely extremely kind, and it's nice and

731
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: not like, you know, not the actually genre. So that's

732
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: really wonderful. Well, shout out, shot out, shout out. Fans

733
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: of Creature feature, thank guys for like when you do

734
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: get on your when you do get on my case,

735
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: it's in a very nice way, very cordial, very cordial.

736
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I think that's all we can ask for with our

737
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: podcast communities, is that you you foster community that is cordial. Yeah,

738
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: because I ain't perfect, and you guys know that, and

739
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: that's that's great. Who lives among us? Who among us?

740
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: But he who is without? You know, worm sin cast

741
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: the first rolling worm Rock perfect BEAUTI fo you perfectly

742
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: executed well. Before we go, we gotta play a little

743
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: game called Guests Who's Squawk? And the Mtery Animal Sound Game. Uh.

744
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: This is a game where I play Mry animal Sound

745
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: and you the listener, and you're the guests try to

746
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: guess his squawken. It can be any animals, uh, not

747
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: just birds, not just bees, anything anything in the earth

748
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: or on the earth or slightly above the earth. So, uh,

749
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: the hint for this week's mtery animal sound is this

750
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: baby sure likes to make a point. Can you guess

751
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: who is making that sound? All right? So my immediate

752
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: thinking was bird. My immediate thinking is bird sounds like bird? Um,

753
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: this baby sure likes to make a point. Yes, that

754
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: is the hint. This baby shorts to make a point.

755
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell if it. So here's here give you

756
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: all my thinking. I can't tell if the hint is

757
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: in the is in the hint of like sure likes

758
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: to make a point, like it is arguing, like it's

759
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: a lawyer or something, or if it's like an actually

760
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: kind of like sure likes to make a point, get

761
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: its point across, or or if it's or if it's

762
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: a more straightforward hint of like this baby sure likes

763
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: to make a point, like something pointed is part of

764
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: its physiology, like maybe it is a baby woodpecker or something. Um,

765
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: I did like where you're going with like the lawyer

766
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: the animal that is a baby lawyer right, the boss

767
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: of the boss baby of animals. Um, I think I'm

768
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna go. I think I'm gonna go with baby woodpecker.

769
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with baby woodpecker. That is a fantastic guess.

770
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: It is wrong though, that this is a baby hedgehog.

771
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Is baby hedgehog? Congratulations to Joey P and Auntie B

772
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: who gets correctly that this is a baby hedgehog. So

773
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: it is a baby who likes to make a point,

774
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: likes to make lots of points. So a baby hedgehog

775
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: also known as a hoglute what they're called? Yeah, this

776
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: is very cute. They come out pink, They come out pink,

777
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: and like little little spiky jellybeans. Um, they will squeak

778
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: to communicate to their mother that they are hungry, just

779
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: kind of like kittens. Um. Down. In terms of baby hedgehogs,

780
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: a question I imagine a lot of people have about

781
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: baby hedgehogs is that if they are born with spines,

782
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: how do you give birth to one without getting impaled

783
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: by the spines? And nobody having a good time with that? Yeah. Um,

784
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: so they are worn with spines, but they are born

785
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: covered in a protective skin like membrane when they are born. Huh,

786
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: And these spikes emerge after the membrane dries and shrinks

787
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: and the spikes start poking out from the membrane. Um.

788
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Kind of like that X Man from the X Men. Uh,

789
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: and he had spikes coming out of his face, except

790
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: that there was an X Man that had spikes that

791
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: would come out of his body. Uh, you know, I

792
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: don't remember he was from No, he was from one

793
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: of the Bad Want movies. Um, Okay, you know what

794
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: I think, I know what you're talking about. Spikeman, Spikeman, Spikeman. Um,

795
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that, except it's a tiny pink

796
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: baby hedgehog. And it's sort of like they kind of

797
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: are born like with extra puffy skin, and the natskin

798
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: kind of dries and then shrinks down and then the

799
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: spikes come out. Um. Also the spines, the spines of

800
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a newborn are softer than an adults, and they will

801
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: eventually be shed and replaced by harder adult spines. Got it, Okay?

802
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: And and with the and with the skin, like the

803
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: the the protective layering does it when it starts to

804
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: poke through, does it eventually like fall off? Is it

805
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: like molted off of them or or is it like

806
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: it becomes just like a part of their skin layer.

807
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it just kind of shrinks down

808
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: to their skin layer, but like all skin, it will

809
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: sort of fall off sort of like I mean, yeah,

810
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: like our our skin is always you know, sort of

811
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: like the dead layer is falling off all the time.

812
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: So I think it might it might kind of slough

813
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: off a little bit faster than other skin though. I

814
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: would imagine, Hey, the listeners out there, take care of

815
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: your skin. Where all right, get that SPF going. Did

816
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: you know that like your outer most layer of skin

817
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: is like dead essentially? Yeah, Like why is skin such

818
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: a good defense against pathogens? And it's like this It

819
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: actually looks a lot like uh, if you've seen these

820
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: old stone walls that they used to make with like

821
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: smaller rocks, like these kind of thin and flat rocks,

822
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: and they used to kind of jam them together, like

823
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: the Romans would do this. And we actually have some

824
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: of these still in Italy and they just have a

825
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: bunch of like sort of small thin rocks all stuck together.

826
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: It's like this technique that like we don't know how

827
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: to do anymore really, um, but like skin is kind

828
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: of like that. These they're these like small flat dead

829
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: cells that are kind of squished together, and these like

830
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like almost like like these these

831
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: old walls with all these rocks kind of interwoven with

832
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: each other and it forms it's very like tough to

833
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: penetrate layer. Cool. Yeah, wow, Well, shout out the Italians

834
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: for for figuring out how the skin can be turned

835
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: into rock or how the skin is can be trans

836
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: transitioned into rock. Um that's cool. Yeah, but yeah, yeah,

837
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: our skin, all all the skin that we see, what

838
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: we're looking at is death. It's very it's very Werner Herzog. Yeah,

839
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: constantly observing our own demise. Exactly that you strive to

840
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: protect is simply your mortal coil exposure itself and then

841
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: like it's like unsatisfy, you should buy it. Can protect

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Speaker 1: Embrace your death. Onto this week's Mr Animal Sound. The

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Speaker 1: hint this is one unhappy noodle. If you think you

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Speaker 1: know the answer to this week's Mystery animal sound, you

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Speaker 1: can email me at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: That is Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com and

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Speaker 1: make your gifts and if you've gifts correctly, you might

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Speaker 1: hear your name on the podcast. Well, Daniel, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being here, or can on people find you? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's my pleasure to be here, Katie, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me love the show so much. Um.

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Speaker 1: You can find me all over the internet at DJ

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Speaker 1: Underscore Daniel d A n L on all the platforms, um.

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Speaker 1: I'm mostly on Twitter, Instagram, and Twitch. I also have

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Speaker 1: a TikTok, regrettably for all the content that I forced

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Speaker 1: myself to post to try and stay relevant in this

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Speaker 1: ever more cringe universe of posting. Um. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: on Twitch three times a week Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.

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Speaker 1: We play a lot of games to tell a lot

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Speaker 1: of stories, and you know, it's just it's just about

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Speaker 1: Twitch community. I also have a lot of channel point

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Speaker 1: rewards that you can use to make fun of me

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Speaker 1: or surprise me with jump scares and whatnot, which is

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Speaker 1: truly the most fun part of the stream is how

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Speaker 1: come on, it's a lot of fun. Go harass Danial,

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Speaker 1: Go harass Daniel. That's the whole point. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned you like the show, but I should also mention

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Speaker 1: you helped me started early on, so you credit for that. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's all it's all you. I mean, it's me and

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Speaker 1: other people. Fair, okay, fair always, it's always a team.

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Speaker 1: But but it has to has someone needs to be

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Speaker 1: the captain to write the ship. And that's all you.

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Speaker 1: We form a rolling swarm. Swarm kind of ride around

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Speaker 1: and then make podcasts and that's the way of the world.

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Speaker 1: Am well, Thank you guys so much for listening. If

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying the show and you leave me a writing

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Speaker 1: or review, I will read it. I will add it

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Speaker 1: to this wall in my house where I post up

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Speaker 1: all my views. And my husband is getting very nervous

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Speaker 1: about it, getting quite alarmed. Uh. He shouldn't worry, because

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Speaker 1: I do it out of love and obsession. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Space Cossacks for their super awesome song

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Speaker 1: Exo Lumina. For more podcasts like the one you just heard,

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Speaker 1: Hey guess what where have you listen to your favorite shows?

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Speaker 1: See you next Wednesday.