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Speaker 3: Oh little bit man dive down the thirty one yard line.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft,

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Speaker 3: and I welcome in Wayne Blair with me this week.

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Speaker 3: And Wayne joined the staff in twenty twenty two as

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Speaker 3: a defensive quality control coach, but that was after working

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Speaker 3: part of the Bill Wosh Diversity Coaching Fellowship Program. Wayne,

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Speaker 3: how important has that program been, not only for yourself

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Speaker 3: but for other guys to kind of, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: now towards bringing in minorities and getting those guys into

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Speaker 2: it's just been amazing, an amazing experience. I don't think

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Speaker 2: first before I came over during COVID, and just coming

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Speaker 2: here has just been it's been great for me, not

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Speaker 2: only for myself as far as development, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just something that most people should try to get

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Speaker 3: It's led to your opportunity. Here. What do you like

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Speaker 3: about Dan Campbell ag the staff? You smile. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you could probably go on for a while, but look,

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Speaker 3: if you can put your finger on it, that that

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Speaker 2: Part of the cohesiveness, the accountability, the drive to be

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Speaker 2: So for me, again, it's just been one of those

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Speaker 3: Quality control. That's one of those terms I think fans

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Speaker 3: What would you like about coaching high school? You did

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Speaker 2: I definitely love the way that we are trending, beginning

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Speaker 3: How much better is that secondary with with bringing in

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Speaker 2: Well, that in turn gives AG the capability to open

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Speaker 2: up the playbook and start calling you know different things

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Speaker 2: a little bit more variety as far as play calling

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Speaker 3: It's just like that's the case up front too, right,

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Speaker 3: Another one of those guys is John Kaminski Commish the Commissi.

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Speaker 2: For me as a coach, he's been He's been instrumental

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Speaker 1: Able to play violent. The club I don't.

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Speaker 3: To have it somewhere. He's just hated that thing you're

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Speaker 2: Commission again, man, Commission is just one of those guys

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Speaker 3: He's just.

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Speaker 2: He's just a wonderful human being. You know, I damn there,

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Speaker 2: get teary eyed about it because he's he's one of

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Speaker 2: and again, just somebody that was very very needed to

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Speaker 3: Was anybody happier when that.

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Speaker 1: Might have seen me rocking the shirt or something, you know.

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Speaker 3: But to me, he's a glue piece and don't teams

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Speaker 3: all teams need that, like Kalif Raymon is another one

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Speaker 3: he'll go run special teams if you want him to,

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Speaker 3: And Commission is kind of that same kind of guy. Defensively.

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt. I think that was pretty much the

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Speaker 2: He is smart beyond his years, and he just understands

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Speaker 1: We go, where we go, and how we go about it.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that's pretty far. Hopefully that's home playoff games. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: that's some of the things that that's being talked about.

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Speaker 3: Expectations that I've been covering this team for fifteen years

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Speaker 3: just put your down, we have accomplished anything yet, let's

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Speaker 3: go to work. It's not a distraction. Or do you

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Speaker 3: hear it? Do you have to remind guys that that, hey,

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Speaker 3: we haven't done anything yet, or has it been a

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Speaker 3: pretty good collective effort to kind of block out the noise.

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Speaker 2: Collective effort As far as blocking out the noise, silence

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Speaker 2: and the critics, I mean, I think everybody's all in

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Speaker 1: Just even keel. I don't think there's any any change.

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Speaker 2: And I know within you know, media and all these

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Speaker 2: other different outlets, there is the noise. But as far

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Speaker 2: I think it's just silence and business as usual.

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Speaker 3: In the twenty minutes that we've been taught fucking there's

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Speaker 3: probably been four or five quote slogans, mottos that you've

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Speaker 3: pulled out that I love. So the T shirt business

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Speaker 3: is big around here. If there was one, if it

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Speaker 3: was the Wayne Blair motto quote whatever, what would the

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Speaker 3: shirt be? What's the good one? Give me your best one?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, because I hear you. You're full of them.

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Speaker 3: It's the players.

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Speaker 1: A Blais blaarism.

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Speaker 3: We need the best blairrism to end here.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't want to quote the Rock.

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Speaker 3: It's gotta be one you use on your players too.

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Speaker 3: It's if I were to say something to a player,

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Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, that's Wayne. You know what it is,

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Speaker 3: don't you? All right? Okay, okay, okay, okay, it's.

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Speaker 2: Uh, go harder, go home, Go harder, go home, go

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Speaker 2: hard to go home. I like that's something that we

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Speaker 2: can resonate. I don't know whether or not they'll turn

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Speaker 2: it into a shirt or build some slogans off of it,

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Speaker 2: but go hard to go home. There ain't no other

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Speaker 2: way about handling yourself as a professional and taking care

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Speaker 2: whatever that may be.

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Speaker 1: You just go hard. There ain't nothing else. We'll go home.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Wayne, Thanks for taking the time defensive

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Speaker 3: quality control coach for the Detroit Lions. I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: guys get a chance to know some of these assistant

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Speaker 3: coaches a little bit more. Wayne is a character. He's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys the players love and you do

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Speaker 3: some really good work and hopefully it pays off in

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Speaker 3: the end, and we're talking about playing football, meaningful games

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Speaker 3: into January, maybe in February.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate, thank you making your lessons