WEBVTT - Enduring Friendships with Michelle Monaghan 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.160 Hello, Catherine, Hi Chelsea. How's whistler? 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.960 Whistler is has welcomed me with open arms. It's springtime. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.000 Spring skiing has sprung. Doug and I have reunited. We 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.400 took a plane ride together with an e bike, the 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.720 three of us, and I sent him back to training 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.800 camp and somehow he came back a slightly more aggressive 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:21.840 So we are we. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.119 I know, I have my work cut out for me. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.160 I'm hanging out here with all my girlfriends having a 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:29.440 grand old time. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.760 Very happy about a break. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.159 I hope everyone has checked out my new Netflix special, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.320 The Feeling. It has premiered on Netflix. It's out now officially, 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.599 and yes, very exciting my book and my special. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.120 I mean, it's all it's all common up Brosa's. I'm 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.839 getting so many emails, especially about the book. I mean, 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.440 the special just came out, so I've gotten a feel 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.080 about that too, But so many emails from listeners saying 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.040 how much they love the book, how much it's meaning 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:55.400 to them. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.280 So oh nice. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:57.880 I love that. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.000 I love that. I'm trying to answer all my dms. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.000 Some of them are a little fucked up, though, so 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.880 sometimes I read them and I'm like, unread, unread, I 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.640 couldn't find there's like a section from when you get 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.119 DMS by from people that you don't know, like there's 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.760 nothing to say unread. But then I realized, once you 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.360 they're not in your primary or jet you know they're in, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.560 you're not, yes, so it doesn't matter if you read 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.240 them and don't because I'm like, oh God, I don't 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.480 want to deal with this. So many people are asking 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.520 me for money. I would love to help everyone with money. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.920 I don't have that much money to be giving out 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:31.640 to strangers. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.640 I can't really do that for legal purposes. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:39.040 Mostly I've had bad experiences in the past. So while 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.600 people are reaching out, I mean, I want to help you, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:42.600 but I can't. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.160 Legally just give out money to people all the time. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.120 So but that's why it's nice that we have that 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.360 resource of like pandemic of love that we can send 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.480 people to that helps, you know, connect people with people 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:53.080 who can donate. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.480 So yes, and also there's all these great teachers that 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.880 are asking for supplies. That is something that we can 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.280 do and every ready can donate to for teachers who 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.559 need supplies for their classrooms, especially considering everything that's happening 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.960 in this hot mess administration that is driving me to 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.600 drink more even while I'm in Canada. Who all my 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.480 Canadian friends are like, no one will buy American goods. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:16.400 Up here, you know, no one. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.760 It's like an American boycott. I don't know how much longer, exactly, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.560 I don't know how much longer Americans are even going 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.160 to be welcome. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.960 I mean, listen, I a millennial, have not shopped at 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.800 Target in like two months. So like, if that doesn't 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.480 tell you something's crazy, I'm fully on with the boycott. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.040 So I am as well. I am as well. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.239 It's hard to boycott Amazon. Everyone orders everything from Amazon. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.240 I'm trying to minimize my Amazon like it's down to 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.440 the bear bear bones. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.560 Yeah. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.160 Well, on the bright side, our lovely guest today is 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.800 Michelle Monahan, who can be found on this current season 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:47.679 of White Lotus. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.760 Please welcome Michelle Monahan. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.000 Hi, Chelsea, Hi, how are you? 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:53.920 Long time? 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.440 No meat, I've been waiting to meet, excell you me too. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.880 Look at all of your people leaving your room. Where 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:01.000 the people servicing you? 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:03.760 They're all service me. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.840 Oh my goodness, where are you? 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.720 I'm in New York. I'm in New York. I just 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.320 got here for a couple of days in press, and 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.640 I'm excited to be talking with you. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.239 Oh my god, Oh my god. Well we have so 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.160 much to discuss. First of all, yes we do. We 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.079 have so much to do. I hope you're seeing Leslie 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:21.960 while you're in New York. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.520 I'm sure you. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.359 I am just going to miss her. We were just texting, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.320 and I don't think it's going to happen because she's 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.440 knee deep in in all of her press at the moment, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.160 and I am too. But I did get to see 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.640 her a couple of weeks ago. We both happened to 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.320 be in Paris, and so we had a beautiful dinner 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:39.640 and a great catchup. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.240 And yeah, she told me. She told me. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:42.760 I was like, oh my god, the fact that the 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.040 two of you are working together. I was so excited. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.720 I don't know Carrie yet, but I'm going to have 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.760 to meet her too because of the three of you. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.440 But so, okay, we're not going to give any well 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:53.640 we are, because who cares. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:54.960 You know, if people aren't caught up to. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.840 White lotus, then they're fucking not paying attention to the 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:57.680 life anyway. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.160 It's going to be ruined for them. The internet going 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.280 to ruin it for them. Any ways, they should catch up. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.120 But by the time we air this, they'll have been 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.120 at least one more episode come out. So let's just 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.560 talk about the most recent episode where you fuck the. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.040 Guy that youre a friend wanted to fuck. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.480 Okay, so I saw this, I mean, I guess I 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.000 didn't see it coming. I want to say I saw 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.560 a coming after I came. But I mean, we just 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.800 see the lead up. But the whole dynamic between the 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.000 three of you will start with white lotus because it 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.400 was such a huge filming experience that I have a 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.159 couple of friends that were on this show, so I 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.279 was so like, I heard so many different things about 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.839 being away for that many months. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.920 You guys were away for six months in Thailand? 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.160 Yes, yes, absolutely, yeah, six months? 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.600 And what how I mean I know you have children? 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.120 You have two daughters, right. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.039 I am two. I was a sixteen year old daughter 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.320 and an eleven year old son. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:48.600 Eleven year old son. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.479 How do you stay away from your son for an 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:51.320 eleven year old son? 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.440 Was he able to visit you? 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:53.520 Yes? 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:58.960 Yeah, Well I was lucky because the show basically started 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.000 filming in February, so they came over for three weeks 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.320 at spring break, and then they came over for three 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:10.040 months during the school holidays, the summer vacation, so I 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.560 got to actually spend quite a bit of time with them. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.240 And then, as you know, the show is very much 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.560 an ensemble with multiple storylines, and so with the nature 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.200 of filming, you would have kind of one storyline front 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:28.520 and center, the Ladies specifically, as Mike refers to as 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.960 the Ladies. We kicked off productions, so we shot pretty 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.240 intensely for about four weeks I think, and then the 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.080 rat lifts started and so the Ladies had a couple 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.359 of weeks downtime. So I flew back home to be 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.279 with the family. Then. So what I thought was going 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.400 to be a really really intense time of being away 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.760 from my family and thinking like, holy shit, how the 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.040 fuck am I going to make this work? Actually it 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.320 didn't end up being that at all. I was actually 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.680 able to travel to see them in The big joy 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.599 was them being able to come over and spend time 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.839 in Thailand and kind of having that family adventure there 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.760 was like hitting second to none. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.200 Yeah, I mean, what tell us about Thailand? Tell us 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.720 about spending so much time there? 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.440 You know, I am someone who loves to travel. It's 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.599 it's probably my greatest pastime and certainly the greatest privilege. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.719 I've been traveling since I was about seventeen, kind of 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.479 on my own. I started modeling when I was a teenager, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.839 and so it's something that I feel really comfortable doing 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:37.040 and I am excited to always do. I mean, listen, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.360 even if it's in like Winnipeg or Albuquerque, I will 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.520 find my jam. I will find that routine. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.119 Those Winnipeg listen, don't. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.680 I've heard Winnipeg about five times in the last two weeks. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.679 I have spent three days in Winnipeg. I will never 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.320 ever see the inside of Winnipeg again. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.320 So the fact that you. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.599 You got to be in Winnipeg in summer because that's 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.920 what all the beer gardens come out, and like everybody's 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.080 in a good nude, So you know, you got to 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.000 You gotta do Winnipeg in the right season. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.360 That's the key. That's the key. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.880 I would imagine Winnipeg is really celebratory in the summertime 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.440 after what they got through in. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:15.160 The winter time. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.200 They're like Chicago, you know, like all the crazy comes. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.160 Out well without without the shopping and without the civilization 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.640 I mean Winnipeg. I spent three nights in Winnipeg. I 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:26.920 was performing in on tour. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.160 How much online shopping did you do online? Are you 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:30.720 kidding me? 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.560 I just took I took Xanax one after another and 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.960 just kept sleeping. I was like, fuck this place. I 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.000 woke up for my show and then went back to sleep. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:39.520 Afterward. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.200 I flew in there and it was a sheet of ice. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.200 It was, and there were people ice skating, like not 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.280 in an ice skating rink. On the streets. People were 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.600 ice skating to work. I was like, ok, God, and 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.160 with no mountain, so I love the snow if there's 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:55.880 something to ski. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.520 But there was nothing to see because it's all flat. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:03.040 You're right, You're right. It's very anticlimactic there, right, exactly. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.960 Well, that's a good note to go back in the summertime. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.720 I'm sure. I mean, I can't get any work. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.200 It's beautiful, rights, It's okay then, But I will say 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.480 Thailand was amazing. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:11.720 You know. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.160 I'd never been to that part of the world. I'd 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.400 spent a little time in Singapore probably a couple decades ago, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.960 spent time in Japan, but never been to Thailand. And 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.360 it was a place that I've it's kind of always 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.560 on that on that list, and it's gorgeous there. I mean, 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.960 it's called the Land of Smiles for an absolute reason. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.440 And you get there and the people, the culture is 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.959 so warm, and the food. I mean, I listen, I'm 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.959 a huge fan of Thai food. I love to eat, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.000 and there wasn't one day that I was ever sick 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.640 of eating you know, thaie beef salad or green chicken 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.560 curry or grapao or any kind of Thai dish. And 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.800 fresh fish, I mean they you know, you you eat 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.840 the most incredible like sea bass, red snapper. I mean 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.599 it's all just caught fresh. It was just it was 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.800 a beautiful experience to be able to just have that 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.840 as a part of like your daily routine. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.000 Yeah, I would have. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.640 It was pretty sweet. Yeah. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.440 So you talk about this experience being one of like 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:24.400 the most expansive experiences career wise and personally that you've 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.280 had working with Mike White, working. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:27.760 On this show. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.480 Can you talk a little bit more about why it 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.640 has been such a special experience. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.840 Yeah, I mean, listen, I've been in this industry for 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.480 twenty twenty five years. I mean, it is not lost 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.160 on me how special that is to be able to 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.960 have that kind of longevity as an actor, to have 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.040 a kind of breadth of a career that I've had, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.360 you know, been able to explore so many different kinds 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:58.079 of genres, you know, in my career, independent film, big films, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:03.120 you know, television, and that's been incredible for me. But 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.280 I'm also a woman in my in my forties, and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.480 we always get fed that narrative, you know that, like, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.199 you know, your career is going to start to dry 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.040 up in your forties, There's not going to be those 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.480 kinds of roles. And I guess in some ways I've 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.319 maybe experienced that notion, but I also think like that 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.760 we feed ourselves that and those are like stories that 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.480 we tell ourselves, which I don't necessarily think are reality. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.559 I think to be able to specifically work with with 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:37.280 Mike on this particular storyline was really special for me. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.040 We were coming out of a strike as a union. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.400 Things were really slow, you know. The opportunity came to 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.160 me and said, you know, Mike would like you to 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:52.720 audition for this character, and I was like, holy shit. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.560 I've loved Mike from Chuck and Buck, like from back 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.760 in the day. I've been obsessed with that dude. And 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.920 I randomly met him at a dinner party, like I 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.960 don't know, probably fifteen seventeen years ago, and I sat 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.480 across from him, my husband and I did, and I 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.559 remember us leaving that dinner part I was like, that 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.520 fucking guy is so cool, weird and awesome, Like, I 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.560 just want to spend more time with that guy. And 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.240 within that span of time, of course, we've watched the 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:27.439 trajectory of Mike's career as an actor, as a writer, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.120 and most certainly, you know, as a director. To then 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.680 actually have an opportunity to kind of work with him. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.600 When I got the gig, I was like overwhelmed, you know, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.440 I cried tears of joy, you know, because I knew 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.040 how big of an opportunity this was. And I think 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.120 as an actor and as a fan of the show, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.880 you know, he's a master of tone, and so to 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.120 get to creatively, to dive in and to kind of 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:02.960 flesh out the neuroses of these people bull that walks 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.800 such a fine line between comedy and drama, and it's melancholic, 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.560 it's all this acerbic, all those things like that's such 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.679 a challenge and I was so excited to be able 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.440 to challenge myself as a as an actor, as a 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.160 performer and go like, all right, can I lean into 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:26.400 these things? Can I deliver exactly what his material deserves? 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.839 And so I was super excited about getting that opportunity 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.360 and to get to do it also with like the 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.400 likes of Leslie Bibb and Carrie Koon, who I hold 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:37.280 in such highestea. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.439 I mean, it's such a great trifecta, the three of 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.040 you girls. I fucking love it so much. Well, I 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.800 want to ask you a question as an actor, when 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.559 you read this, right, you, when you're first auditioning, you're 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.240 just reading probably sides or. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.200 That you get the first script. Maybe I don't. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.120 I'm not sure how he works, but I'm sure it's 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.320 very secretive. Yes, right, So once you get hired for 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.000 the role, are you able to read through the entire series? 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.240 Yeah? So it's such a great question. I mean, when 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.760 I first got the sides, I was just like, fucking, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.240 hey man, I just have some like insight into what 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.000 season three is like. I was just excited to. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.600 Like just to have like ten pages of like. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.640 His brain, you know. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.880 And then once I got the role, you get them 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.240 all eight episodes in your inbox. You get to binge 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.080 read this show. And I remember my husband and I 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.800 and the kids we were. We got it right before 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.760 Christmas break twenty twenty three, I guess because we were 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.520 shooting twenty February twenty twenty four. So I got it 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.360 right as we were going to Australia and I was like, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.880 there's no way I'm going to sleep on this flight 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.600 to night flight. I was like, I'm just gonna stay off. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:52.360 And I read all eight episodes and I was like, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.800 holy shit, it man, he has done it again. Like 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:01.200 the guy is g He writes every single scene and 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:08.120 every single character is so complicated, in layered in ooey 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.640 and gooey and cringey, like all of these things. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.760 And you don't know. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.360 Where it's going, Like you think you know where it's going, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.400 and then you just don't know where it's going and 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.400 you get to the end and it's like, holy shit, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.360 you know I get to do this? 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:30.560 Yeah, yeah, well okay, So when you are portraying this character, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.440 knowing how it ends has to impact your performance, right 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:37.160 or does it? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:38.120 Or do you play it? 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.600 Because there's so many misleads on the show, so like, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.040 how do you play that? Is that something you work 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.440 with with Mike, Like, obviously your character is going in 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.840 a direction. We don't know what's going on with your boyfriend. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.320 Seemingly he's unavailable, who knows what he's up to, and 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.440 you're lashing out in the last episode when you and 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.720 I are speaking today, the last episode was your boyfriend 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.200 didn't turn your calls or text, and then you decide 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.800 to go out on the town and party blah blah 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.680 blah the girls, and then you end up poking up 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.880 with Carrie Kon's potential supposed love interest that you set up, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.520 that you set up and then stole from her, which 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.560 is probably the best one, the most fun character to play. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.680 It's true, it's true. So basically what happens is you 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.320 get all eight episodes and you shoot them so far 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.240 out of sequence it's crazy. So for example, in our 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:36.080 very first day of production, we were shooting scenes from 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:41.520 episode one and episode eight. So that's a really really 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:46.000 intense kind of bookend of in terms of your emotional 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.840 arc and where you need to be. So you need 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.440 to be, as a performer, as an actor, incredibly clear 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.920 about all of the emotional beats. So that you can 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.720 tap into one and tap out of one, like within 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.760 hours of each other, if necessary. So the process was 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.480 very much sitting down with Mike specifically once we got 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.920 to Thailand, one on one each of us as actors, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:17.120 and said, Okay, what are the qualities in Jacqueline that 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.200 you really want us to lean into, Like, what do 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.840 you what is it that that you love about Jacqueline? 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.080 You know, what is it that you know, like you said, 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.360 are they are? Are there things that you kind of like, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.080 what are the privileges maybe that she she enjoys, you know, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.920 the things that she can kind of take advantage of 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.200 in terms of her fame and things like that. So 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.360 that's kind of the process and I and I think 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:49.320 like for Jacqueline, you know, she was really excited, you know, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.120 sincerely about taking her girlfriends on vacation. I think that 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.000 she feels like this is something that she wants to 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.920 do to kind of rekindle this this long time friend 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.960 that she's had and and she's proud to do that. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.600 And you know, these are ladies that have all kind 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.560 of gone their different direction, They've made different life choices, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.720 and you know, you see in those first few episodes 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.879 that there is a lot of toxic positivity going on 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.320 with the gals, and you know, you see sort of 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.760 that tension building within the friendship, and you know, I 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:31.440 really loved this idea that Jacqueline is completely sincere with 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.159 with with Laurie and saying, like, listen, this is a 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.360 perfect week for a fling like you. You deserve this. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.000 You've got a hard life, you've been working, there's a 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.239 lot of things personally that she's been going through and like, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.800 this guy looks like a fling type of guy, like 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.359 you should go for it. And I think, unfortunately as 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.040 as the relationship, as the season progresses, we start to 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.520 see the relationship in each of the gals kind of 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:02.840 devolve really and you know, as you mentioned, you know, 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:07.119 she's in a relationship, Jacqueline's in a relationship where she's 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:12.280 being ignored a little bit. And listen, Jacqueline needs a 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.080 lot of validation. She needs a lot of external validation. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.280 You can tell that she's like needs to be stimulated 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.160 a lot. She's very kind of colorful and bright, and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.200 she was she was a butterfly to me, and somebody 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.720 who's like very bright and colorful, beautiful, but just kind 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.959 of just like flies in and makes a little commotion 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.639 and then flies out, And butterflies have real short life spans, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.440 and so for me, I thought like as an actor, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.880 I you know, I felt like Jacqueline feels like she's 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.679 got a short life span. And I don't know, like 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.800 I just kept thinking like she's like a butterfly, and 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.879 so I think, like she needs that stimulation, and all 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.160 of a sudden, she's not getting it, Like she's done 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.360 with the fucking detox, you know, and the ladies kind 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.600 of boring her, and she wants to get out there 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.560 and like have some fun, and she goes out to 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.520 kind of create some fun. For better or for worse. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.120 She's gonna get that validation uh where she needs it. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.640 And I think that at the end of that night, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.680 she just makes a really impulsive decision. I don't think 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.520 it's malicious. I don't think it's manipulative, and I think 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.080 it's something that she's probably going to tell the girls 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.639 about the next day, Like guess who I, you know, 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:29.520 like guess. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.880 Who I hooked right right right right. I could see 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:32.359 that happening. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.919 That was really like that was kind of my you know, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:37.880 when we're talking to getting I know I've gone off 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.840 on a tangent, but in terms of like creating that arc, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:46.159 because we shot that scene, we shot like the pool 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.959 scene and the mee kind of you know, summoning Valentine 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.080 to the room. We shot that like on day three. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.439 That was all but then like the party scene and 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.040 the dancing scene and all that that was like six 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.320 months down the road was towards the end, and then 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.320