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Speaker 2: Whistler is has welcomed me with open arms. It's springtime.

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Speaker 2: Spring skiing has sprung. Doug and I have reunited. We

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Speaker 3: I know, I have my work cut out for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging out here with all my girlfriends having a

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Speaker 3: Very happy about a break.

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone has checked out my new Netflix special,

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Speaker 2: The Feeling. It has premiered on Netflix. It's out now officially,

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Speaker 2: and yes, very exciting my book and my special.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's all it's all common up Brosa's. I'm

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Speaker 3: So oh nice.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I'm trying to answer all my dms.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are a little fucked up, though, so

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Speaker 2: sometimes I read them and I'm like, unread, unread, I

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Speaker 2: want to deal with this. So many people are asking

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Speaker 2: me for money. I would love to help everyone with money.

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Speaker 2: I don't have that much money to be giving out

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Speaker 3: I can't really do that for legal purposes.

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Speaker 2: Mostly I've had bad experiences in the past. So while

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Speaker 3: Legally just give out money to people all the time.

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Speaker 4: So but that's why it's nice that we have that

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Speaker 2: So yes, and also there's all these great teachers that

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Speaker 2: drink more even while I'm in Canada. Who all my

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Speaker 2: It's like an American boycott. I don't know how much longer, exactly,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer Americans are even going

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I a millennial, have not shopped at

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Speaker 3: So I am as well. I am as well.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to boycott Amazon. Everyone orders everything from Amazon.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to minimize my Amazon like it's down to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, on the bright side, our lovely guest today is

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Speaker 4: Michelle Monahan, who can be found on this current season

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Michelle Monahan.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Chelsea, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Long time?

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Speaker 2: No meat, I've been waiting to meet, excell you me too.

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Speaker 2: Look at all of your people leaving your room. Where

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Speaker 2: the people servicing you?

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Speaker 5: They're all service me.

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Speaker 1: I'm in New York. I'm in New York. I just

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Well we have so

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Speaker 3: And yeah, she told me. She told me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Carrie yet, but I'm going to have

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Speaker 2: But so, okay, we're not going to give any well

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Speaker 3: You know, if people aren't caught up to.

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Speaker 2: White lotus, then they're fucking not paying attention to the

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Speaker 1: It's going to be ruined for them. The internet going

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I saw this, I mean, I guess I

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Speaker 3: You guys were away for six months in Thailand?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, yeah, six months?

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Speaker 3: Those Winnipeg listen, don't.

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Speaker 2: I've heard Winnipeg about five times in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I just took I took Xanax one after another and

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Speaker 3: I'm always so nice to them.

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Speaker 2: But like after like the fourth or fifth time, I'm like, Okay,

441
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: we can we go.

442
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Speaker 3: Somewhere else, you know what I mean.

443
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Speaker 2: Like, I mean you were left because of the elderliness

444
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Speaker 2: of the second hotel, but yes, but just even the

445
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Speaker 2: way you interact with them as a public, like as

446
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Speaker 2: a famous person.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny. I was like, Oh, that's me on

448
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: vacation totally. I bring my friends.

449
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Speaker 2: I fucking hook up not with astutely, not with people

450
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Speaker 2: they're interested in.

451
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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm up to for sure.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, And I think that's why. You know, listen,

453
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Speaker 1: this is a testament to Mike White, you know, in

454
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Speaker 1: not just our storyline or Jacqueline storyline. It's it's in

455
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Speaker 1: all the storylines. It's all the characters. I mean, he

456
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Speaker 1: really creates roles and characters that people relate to, like

457
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Speaker 1: you either are that person or you know somebody who

458
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: is like that. It's subtle, you know what I mean.

459
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: And there's so much subtext in it. But I think

460
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: that's like and it's universally relatable you know, it's why

461
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Speaker 1: people all over the world are just like, oh my god,

462
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: I so know these women or even men are like,

463
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: oh my god, my wife and then her friends, you know,

464
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: and the Ratliffe family, like who doesn't know, like the

465
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: Southern Woman that Parker Posey is playing, you know, like

466
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: super privileged, and maybe fewer people who understand the incest

467
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: the incestuous seeing your co show hopefully right right right,

468
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think that's why people

469
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Speaker 1: are getting a kick out of the storyline. I think

470
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Speaker 1: specifically the ladies storyline, because I feel like it's very familiar.

471
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Speaker 2: It's very familiar, and also it's kind of a pointer

472
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: for like your future self everyone who like sees the show,

473
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: Like in groups of women, it is a reminder of

474
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Speaker 2: how to kind of honor friendships and not honor friendships

475
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: the lowest common denominator to talk about people once they.

476
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Speaker 3: Leave the room for families.

477
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Speaker 2: For families, I think it's acceptable because the families deserve

478
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: that and they've been together and it's not a choice.

479
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: But when you have friends, yes, it's like it's kind

480
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Speaker 2: of a reminder don't be like it's ick.

481
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Speaker 1: It is.

482
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: It's an ick to.

483
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Talk about your friends when you're on vacation with them

484
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: and they're acting. I mean, well, it's one thing to

485
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Speaker 2: find out what's a Republican that is.

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Speaker 8: That's where we need to talk about that. We need

487
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 8: to talk about that, We need to talk about them. Okay,

488
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Speaker 8: On that note, we're going to take a break, Michelle.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back and we're going to take some callers.

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Speaker 4: If you'd like advice from Chelsea, right into us at

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Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. We'd love to

492
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 4: hear your questions for any juicy story you'd like advice on.

493
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: And this week we're looking for questions about clear relationship issues.

494
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Speaker 1: So if you're a queer person.

495
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: And you're dating or are in a long term relationship,

496
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: write in about your relationship woes at Dear Chelsea podcast

497
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 4: at gmail dot com.

498
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Speaker 3: And we're back with Michelle Vonahan. It was our quick break.

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Speaker 1: But I think, like what you were saying, like it's

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00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: so true, Like I think that this it holds a mirror,

501
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, the storyline really holds a mirror.

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Speaker 9: To to women out there, the way in which we

503
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 9: endure these sorts of relationships and the way that we

504
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 9: also perpetuate them right by like judging ourselves so harshly,

505
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 9: judging our friends so harshly, It's like.

506
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: There is enough room for all of us to kind

507
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: of celebrate each other and our you know, each other's

508
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: respective sort of life's decisions, and you know successes inevitably

509
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: all of our failures. And I think, like, I think

510
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: the storyline really highlights that for women to kind of

511
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: across the board, and it's confronting and you know, it's

512
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Speaker 1: kind of vulnerable, so and important.

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00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: It's like underlining the idea that everyone is different, Like

514
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: your friends are different. The reason why you're attracted to

515
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: them is because you share some similarities and you share dissimilarities.

516
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: But it's a reminder also we're not all the same,

517
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: so don't be so judgmental or quick to go to

518
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: the lowest to common denominator, which is you know, gossiping

519
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: and da. It's like everyone has something to add. So

520
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: it's a nice reminder to like let each other. You know,

521
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: it might be less comedic, but it's nice to just

522
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: like open up and let people who are different in

523
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: and be like, okay, these are my friends, let me

524
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: let me learn what I can grab from them, Rather

525
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: than you know, consider them less.

526
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: Than because they behaved it this way or that way.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I think that's why people will enjoy

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Speaker 1: this second half of this season. I think that you're

529
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: going to see the idea of that take place. Yeah,

530
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: things have kicked off for sure. In the first couple

531
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Speaker 1: of episodes. I'm like this is getting I'm like this

532
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: is a little bit slow. And then all of a sudden,

533
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, here we go, here we go.

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00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: Buckle up.

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00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we had a com full circle.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a couple of callers now, Michelle.

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Speaker 2: We give advice people real life and love it because

538
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: the best advice you could get is somebody who has

539
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: nothing to do with your situation.

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Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer of that.

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00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what we dole out here at Dear Chelsea,

542
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: say Chelsea.

543
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Lately, and I was like, where am I wrong? Shell whoop?

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00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: See well, our first question is just an email, Aaron says,

545
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Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea. I am a day one Dear Chelsea, Girly,

546
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: I've been listening religiously week after week since your launch.

547
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: I find every single episode so relatable, helpful, and enjoy

548
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: the giggles to keep me going through each Thursday. I

549
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: very much identify with all of Chelsea's views on happiness,

550
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: single womanhood, and no children life. I'm thirty one, successful,

551
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: happy and independent. I've been dating my entire life, with

552
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: a few long term relationships that always end due to

553
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: falling out of love or not having the lasting connection

554
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 4: I'm looking for. My current issue is something I've never

555
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 4: encountered before. It's relatively low stakes, but would love your

556
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: honest opinions. I started dating two guys about a month ago.

557
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 4: Guy number one my age, a hustler, different than my

558
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: normal type, but so cute, kind, care and goal oriented.

559
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 4: He has such good energy makes me feel like I

560
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: can be my silly self. I have no reservations that

561
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: he would integrate well into my life, and not to

562
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: mention pretty good chemistry as well. Guy number two is

563
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: five years older, a hustler, but lives a much slower

564
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: lifestyle and hangs out with all men in retirement fifties

565
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: to seventies and golfs five days a week. We have

566
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Speaker 4: the best sexual chemistry, cuddles and kisses I've ever experienced.

567
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: We have not developed the full emotional connection yet, and

568
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: I have not integrated him into my life, and I'm

569
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Speaker 4: unsure if he will vibe with my friends. During a

570
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: conversation with Guy number two about me seeing other people,

571
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: I disclosed that I'm seeing others, and he said he's

572
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 4: not interested in seeing anyone else. He doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: continue dating if I'm seeing other people. I told him

574
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: it's not enough time for me to tell if the

575
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: emotional connection is strong enough to make a decision either way.

576
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Speaker 4: How should I handle this? A? Should I just respect

577
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: his boundaries and move on from Guy number two? B?

578
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: Should I commit prematurely to Guy number two? C? Should

579
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: I lie and keep them both in my lineup? Going

580
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: against me? Morals slash honesty. Hopefully this is a quick

581
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Speaker 4: and easy one to answer. Help Aaron, Interesting, very interesting?

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Speaker 3: Well what was A?

583
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Speaker 1: What was A?

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00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: It was A?

585
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 10: Was to A?

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00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: Was should I respect his boundaries and just say, like,

587
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: move on? You know, if, like, if you aren't okay

588
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: with me dating other people, then I just have to

589
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: move on?

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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 11: Which really is respecting the boundary.

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Speaker 1: Which, yeah, I also think it reveals something else. I

592
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: think if you I think A for me, it's an A.

593
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: And I think what's revealed in A is Number one,

594
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: you're respecting the boundaries, right, You're kind of doing the

595
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: right thing. But moreover, it might actually allowing her to

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Speaker 1: take a break and take making that kind of that

597
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: solid break in him. Having created that boundary and her

598
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: respecting it, you might walk away and like, two months

599
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: down the road feel like, hey, actually I missed this guy.

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00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I miss those cuddles. I miss those snuggles. If she's

601
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Speaker 1: kind of like in between and happen and hap out,

602
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Speaker 1: she's not going to really know for herself what it's

603
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Speaker 1: like to not have him in her life. So I

604
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Speaker 1: think that's creating a nice boundary for herself to maybe

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Speaker 1: kind of learn about who she really does want in

606
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Speaker 1: her life. That makes sense, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Would I'm not going to encourage anyone to be dishonest

608
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Speaker 2: when somebody's asking for the truth. I think what you

609
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Speaker 2: can do, in addition to a is also say, listen,

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Speaker 2: I am going to continue to see other people because

611
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Speaker 2: I do really like spending time with you. I would

612
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Speaker 2: be willing since they have such great sexual chemistry, I

613
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: would be willing to continue having sex with you, no

614
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: strings attached, and we don't have to talk about a relationship.

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00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: If that's what you want, like, I love that part

616
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: of us, and if you're okay with that, let me know,

617
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: because that's an option. And I guarantee you she will

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Speaker 2: hear from him. Maybe not initially I'll say, Okay, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that. I don't want to see

620
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Speaker 2: other people, and I don't want you to see other people.

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Speaker 2: But I bet you he will call you at some

622
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Speaker 2: point and say, oh, why don't you come over and

623
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Speaker 2: da da And that way you have you have him

624
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Speaker 2: for sex when you want him, and that's the part

625
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: you liked about him, and you have this other guy

626
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: that's a burgeoning relationship, and when that gets more serious

627
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: and you want to be committed, then do that.

628
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the worst thing you could do was

629
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Speaker 4: prematurely commit, you know, because.

630
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Speaker 3: Don't premature commit.

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Speaker 2: And also you have to respect and you have to

632
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Speaker 2: respect other people's boundaries if they're not cool with your

633
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: multiple lovers and then they're.

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Speaker 4: Not, Yeah, he's going to be really shocked by that though,

635
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: Like I think that's the most surprising thing is he's like,

636
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Speaker 4: this is my boundary, take it or leave it.

637
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: But why is he also hanging out with retirees. I

638
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: don't understand what that's about this guy.

639
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 11: Also a little bit strikes me as maybe a dud.

640
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Speaker 2: A thirty six year old hanging out with a bunch

641
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Speaker 2: of retired people and plays golf five.

642
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: A guy seems like a pretty good catch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: I mean, he sees like she she kind of had

645
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Speaker 6: me with, Like I feel like myself.

646
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: Around him, and like that's all we want in any relationship, right,

647
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: whether it's a friendship or a romantic relationship or even

648
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: a work relationship, just to be able to be silly

649
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: and to be yourself and to be comfortable. Like that's gold.

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00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, Well, there you have it around them, solved, solved.

651
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: Our next question comes from Kim. Kim says, dear Chelsea,

653
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Speaker 4: and Kim, by the way, is recovering from surgery right now,

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Speaker 4: but she'll be joining us here on the phone. Just

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Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea. My name is Kim, and I just turned

656
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Speaker 4: thirty seven and had surgery for a problematic syst along

657
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Speaker 4: with having my tubes removed as I don't plan on

658
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Speaker 4: having children. During my surgery, it was discovered that I

659
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: have endometriosis. Despite being told over and over that I didn't.

660
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: There was a great deal of endometriosis tissue that had

661
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Speaker 4: to be removed, and the recovery was more painful than

662
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: I expected. My entire life's health issues seem to now

663
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: be connected to this diagnosis, from systemic inflammation that was

664
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Speaker 4: misdiagnosed as fibromyalgia, being put on harsh drugs that resulted

665
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: in me going on disability and losing my job, a

666
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: spinal epidural angiogram, and incidents where I was blacking out

667
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: in pain and could not comprehend why. I've been fortunate

668
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Speaker 4: enough to work with a lymphatic doctor for several years,

669
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Speaker 4: and I truly believe this work has saved my life

670
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Speaker 4: on more than one occasion as a woman, seeing how

671
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: absolutely horrific health care is for us and the years

672
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: we go with our pain dismissed and lives destroyed. How

673
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: can I advocate for other women going through this, who

674
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: like me, were blindsided by a diagnosis like this and

675
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: don't have the appropriate resources to improve their quality of life.

676
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Speaker 4: Thank you again, Kim.

677
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Hi, Kim Hi Hi, so sorry to hear about all

678
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: of your healths, all of this, and yes, you are

679
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: not the only woman that is completely frustrated with our

680
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: healthcare system, which in the immediate future.

681
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Speaker 3: You know what.

682
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: I was with someone this weekend and we were talking

683
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: about this very issue with regard to healthcare, with regard

684
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: to education, with regard to this administration. And she is

685
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: somebody who she's like, there are so many opportunities right

686
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: now because of the defunding of all of these governmental

687
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: agencies that help with all of these things. There are

688
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: so many opportunities for us to redefine helping other people.

689
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's such a great way

690
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: to look at this. Like, you know, she's in mutual

691
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Speaker 2: aid and she runs this organization about mutual aid and

692
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: she's tried to codify that in the government, So like

693
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: this here to me, sounds like an opportunity for you

694
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: to definitely be helping other women.

695
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Speaker 3: Also. First things first, have you had an Ablazian.

696
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 12: No, thankfully I have not, but I did have this

697
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 12: cyst rupture in October and got bounced around from hospital

698
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 12: to hospital. They told me I had pancreatitis. They gave

699
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 12: me no painment. I literally had to leave one hospital

700
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Speaker 12: go to another hospital, and you know, the care was

701
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 12: just horrific and I didn't know what was going on.

702
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Speaker 1: They had said it was just assist.

703
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Speaker 12: Everyone told me this wasn't endometriosis, so I had no idea.

704
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 12: My mom had to have an Ablasian years ago, so

705
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Speaker 12: I didn't know if this was hereditary.

706
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: If this you know what it was.

707
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Speaker 12: And it wasn't until I had this surgery and my

708
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 12: doctor said there was endometriosis all over and we had

709
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Speaker 12: to remove it, and that she said, that's why your

710
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 12: recovery was so horrific, because it was just everywhere.

711
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 11: It was just everywhere.

712
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm bringing up an Ablacian because it sounds like

713
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: something you might want.

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Speaker 3: Are you planning on having children?

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Speaker 12: No, but they did remove my tubes. So from here on,

716
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Speaker 12: I don't have a follow up again Women's health care

717
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 12: for four weeks, so I don't get to talk to

718
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Speaker 12: my doctor until then, and at that point in time.

719
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Speaker 1: I'll see what her thoughts are.

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Speaker 12: She had told my mom, well, she'll probably need to

721
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Speaker 12: be on a low dose birth control, and I said,

722
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Speaker 12: you know, I don't really want to do that. Are

723
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 12: there have to be other options for us other than

724
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 12: just throwing us on birth control pills? And if that

725
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 12: is my only option, then so be it. But I'd

726
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 12: like to think that there's other resources and other things

727
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Speaker 12: out there to help them well.

728
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Speaker 2: First of all, First of all, an ablazion, in my opinion,

729
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: would be a great thing for you to have because

730
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Speaker 2: it stops your period for ninety nine percent of women,

731
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: so then you don't have to deal with I mean,

732
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: it blanches your uterus, so your uterine lining you don't have.

733
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Speaker 3: I got one. My sister got one. I found out

734
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Speaker 3: about it.

735
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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, you could stop your period and she's like, yes,

736
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: you could get your uterus gorch.

737
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I signed me fucking up.

738
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Speaker 2: And my guynecologist was like, Chelsea, it's not really elective.

739
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, you want to make a bet.

740
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you don't do it for me, I'm

741
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: going to go to the next guy and he'll do

742
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: it for me. So she did it, and I don't

743
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: get my period anymore. I mean, I'm probably going through perimenopause.

744
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure at my age because I just turned fifty.

745
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Speaker 2: But it's been a joy. And it also like that

746
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Speaker 2: that's half of your problems. It sounds like, so you

747
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: should inquire about that. Is there a reason you don't

748
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Speaker 2: want that?

749
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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 12: No, I had no idea that that was an elective

751
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 12: thing either.

752
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Speaker 1: I thought it was just you know, I have a

753
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Speaker 1: friend that just had it done, but I had no.

754
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to do a public service announcement on

755
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: my Instagram to make sure every fucking woman knows that

756
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: they don't want to have children and they have bad periods.

757
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: I didn't have a bad period. I just don't want

758
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Speaker 2: my period. Why would you want your period if you're

759
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Speaker 2: not gonna have children. Well, I mean, it doesn't affect

760
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: you hormonally. It only affects your your own lining, so

761
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Speaker 2: you don't bleed.

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Speaker 4: And you know what else I just learned too, is

763
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Speaker 4: that they can do I mean this might be a

764
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: little too far for what you're experiencing, but they can

765
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Speaker 4: do a hysterectomy but leave your ovaries so that you

766
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: still have your hormones coming in, so it like doesn't

767
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: throw you a media into metamahaze like I used to.

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Speaker 11: So I know somebody who had that and it's all

769
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 11: going well.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say in terms of helping other women,

771
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: First of all, I would be very loud about it.

772
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I think women need all the help that they can get.

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: I would I would contact your local Planned Parenthood and

774
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: have a conversation with them and see how you could

775
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: be like a mouthpiece for them and figure out a

776
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: way to either start a newsletter or to you know,

777
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: even starting small in your community, starting or tapping into

778
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: their networks or other women's networks, because right now is

779
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, our healthcare is very much at risk,

780
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: and that's a very understood problem that we're dealing with.

781
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: So I would talk to as many medical professionals. I

782
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: understand that the medical community has kind of run you around,

783
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: but there are good people within that community who do

784
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: want want women to be more educated and know what

785
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Speaker 2: their options are.

786
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Speaker 3: And I've heard this story so many times.

787
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Speaker 2: Even some of my celebrity friends have dealt with this,

788
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: and you would think that they would be getting better

789
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: attention from their doctors.

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00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: It's not true. It's simply just not there for women.

791
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think it's great wanting to be

792
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: an advocate for women's health, and I think there are

793
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: a million ways to go about it. So I would

794
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: really just start talking to everyone you know, every woman

795
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: you know about what they know, and really think about

796
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: using your social platforms, using like maybe you write a newsletter,

797
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: maybe you connect with a women's group or multiple women's

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00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: groups in your area.

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Speaker 4: Or I like what you said about writing a newsletter

800
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: because she's such on her previous call that she's a writer,

801
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: so like maybe a substack, so like that or TikTok.

802
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I think that's great.

803
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Speaker 4: And Michelle, I know that you have advocated for like

804
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: melanoma awareness. Can you talk to us a little bit

805
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: about your experiences with like getting the word out about

806
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: getting checked and that sort of thing.

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as just becoming an advocate for your

808
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: own healthcare is the best thing that you can do.

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00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed with melanoma about ten years ago. My

810
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: husband actually found it. Fortunately I discovered it at an

811
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Speaker 1: early stage and removed all of it and I was

812
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: cancer free. But it was a huge wake up call

813
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: through me because actually initially the doctor didn't even want

814
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: to remove it. The doctor was like, I think it's fine.

815
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Speaker 1: And my husband is Australian, it happens to be very

816
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: well educated in what skin cancer looks like, and he

817
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, you need to have that

818
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: biop so you need to have that removed. And I too,

819
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Speaker 1: as an American, I had like a lack of sun sense.

820
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: If you will. I had a lack of awareness kind

821
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Speaker 1: of growing up, didn't wear a lot of sunscreen, and

822
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Speaker 1: when I found out it was melanoma, I was actually shocked.

823
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize melanoma could be fatal. And so

824
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: once I started doing my due diligence and really started

825
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: to educate myself about the dangers of too much sun

826
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Speaker 1: exposure and ingredients safety and wearing sunscreen and how important

827
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Speaker 1: that is, I went, wow, like, I need to share

828
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Speaker 1: this information because I'm learning a lot and I need

829
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Speaker 1: to impart this not not only onto my children. You know.

830
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Speaker 1: Simultaneously happened as I was becoming a mother, but with

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Speaker 1: my friends, because I'm seeing all my friends like sitting

832
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: out in the sun and not really fully grasping the

833
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: dangers of the impact of what the sun can do

834
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Speaker 1: to you. So I started, as Chelsea was just saying,

835
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Speaker 1: you know, talking to my friends and my family about

836
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Speaker 1: how important it is to get your skin checks and

837
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Speaker 1: things like that. And so now I would consider my

838
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: self as skin cancer advocate. And I love like every

839
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: May comes around and you know, I like to shout

840
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Speaker 1: it from the mountaintops because it's skin cancer Awareness month.

841
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: But you know, the most important thing that we have

842
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: as women is our ability to communicate with each other

843
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: and amongst our friend groups. You know, one of the

844
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: latest things is like I'm in the middle of perimenopause

845
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know it, and all of my

846
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: symptoms were dismissed by like my GP and my action

847
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: gynecologists because like I didn't have hot flashes, but like

848
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I had all these other things, And I was like,

849
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: what is this. This is so weird, This is not

850
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: like me to have this kind of anxiety, Like why

851
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: do I have this more modal acne? Why do I feel?

852
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: Why am I not sleeping? Well? All of these things?

853
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: And it started with a conversation with my friends and

854
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I guess we're like in perimenopause because

855
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: we're in our mid forties.

856
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 5: And I was like, wait, what is this thing?

857
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 8: You know?

858
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: And so I think that's our greatest superpower is to

859
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: be able just to share the knowledge that we have

860
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: and that we learn, and like we don't gatekeep on things.

861
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: And I'll say, in terms of endometriosis, I have so

862
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: many friends that have also endured that. And now I'm

863
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: seeing the conversation a lot more. You know online and

864
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: people are talking about it. I'm from Iowa and there

865
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: was a great state representative that like put a bill

866
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: through through the Iowa Congress to add more funding into

867
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Speaker 1: the research of endometriosis. So even where you're at, I

868
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: would look into kind of state you know, as government

869
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: is defunding their folks out there that are actually as

870
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, Chelsea said, there's these like strong, like little

871
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: coalitions that are actually trying to help people. So maybe

872
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: even look into do that into just even in your

873
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: local kind of policies and see if there's people out

874
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: there trying to to motivate the research forward.

875
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: And also, Kim, really like this is this is a

876
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: huge opportunity for you, Like it is a huge opportunity

877
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: to get your message out and also having real conversations

878
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: with these doctors and saying, you know, it doesn't have

879
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: to be confrontational, it doesn't have to be argumentative.

880
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: You can just be like, listen, this information, this is

881
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: not cool.

882
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: There are so many women out here dealing with this problem,

883
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: and you, as a medical professional need to hear from

884
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: your patient that you guys need to do a better

885
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: job of actually taking our concerns seriously, taking our pain

886
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: seriously and really go through it with them. So as

887
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: a learning moment and a teaching moment for the doctors.

888
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean, this is their profession and some won't be

889
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: receptive to it, but I'm sure one or two will be,

890
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 2: and you're going to kind of change the trajectory of

891
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: how they treat their patients moving forward. So it is

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: a worthwhile endeavor for sure to have these honest conversations

893
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: with anybody and everybody you can.

894
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's huge, that's huge. Actually.

895
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the political aspect is great too, because there

896
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: are going to be representatives in your state who are

897
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: very concerned with women's healthcare.

898
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: So, like, get into it. It seems like a big

899
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: hill to climb, but it's really not.

900
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Once you make a couple steps in the right direction,

901
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: everything kind of comes together and you know they're going

902
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: to be grateful for the information.

903
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I agree.

904
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 12: I mean, so many parts of this journey have just

905
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 12: been wild, and you know, they just dismiss your pain

906
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 12: and tell you it's a bad period and that's it.

907
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 12: They just knock it up to it's a bad period

908
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 12: and you'll deal with it.

909
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. I just had this conversation with my

910
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: daughter this past weekend. She's sixteen, and because I know

911
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: that this is such a pervas issue for women, I said,

912
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: let's talk about your period. Let's have a real conversation

913
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: about your period, Like I want to know, like, are

914
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: you having bad periods? Like what do you have cramps?

915
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: So how long are your periods? Like I wanted to

916
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: have an understanding because I feel like once someone gets

917
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: their period, you're like, Okay, you got your period, and

918
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: then the conversation ends, right, And that's part of the problem.

919
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: I think like a part of the education is talking

920
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: to a younger generation and saying like, this is what

921
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: a real period should be and feel like, and if

922
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like this, then we need to know

923
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: about it. Because a lot of young women start their

924
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: periods but don't necessarily start seeing a guydecologist until later

925
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: in their teens, and so by that time they're enduring

926
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: kind of enduring this pain and these are you know,

927
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: things that they just think, I guess are normal and

928
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: attributed to being a woman, you know. So I think

929
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: the education starts from the time that we're talking kind

930
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: of about the birds and the bees, you know, and

931
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: what's normal. So I think the whole narrative needs to shift.

932
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: So for any dear Chelsea listeners that want to follow Kim,

933
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: I'll put a link in the description, but you can

934
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: just follow her on Instagram at Kim dot versus dot endo.

935
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: That's at Kim dot vs dot e end o.

936
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much.

937
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

938
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 12: I mean, my goal throughout my whole life was I

939
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 12: don't want people, and Chelsea in your in your book

940
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 12: he said, I don't want people to feel alone, like

941
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 12: you're not alone. And I read that in your book

942
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 12: and it was just like that was the That was

943
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 12: that driving force. That's like, you know what, I'm not

944
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 12: going to shut up and I'm not going to quiet

945
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 12: and I'm going to talk to everyone and I'm going

946
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 12: to do something about this. So thank you for being

947
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 12: an inspiration and giving people like me a voice and

948
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 12: an opportunity to try and change the world. Because without you,

949
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 12: I wouldn't be here right now, and I wouldn't have

950
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 12: this drive to just really change things.

951
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: Really well, you would be here. You would be here

952
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: without me, So let's that can be too much credit.

953
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: But she makes it more fun, doesn't she.

954
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 2: But yes, I'm I'm so happy you called in and yeah,

955
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: go and run with this, okay, exactly, Yeah, make this

956
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: part of your purpose in life.

957
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: It is.

958
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 12: It is one hundred percent. Thank you all so much.

959
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 12: I really appreciate it.

960
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: I can, I can nice to meet you.

961
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many. I mean, obviously we're

962
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: all women.

963
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: We know how many women could have that have endometriosis

964
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: and go on it.

965
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, and go undiagnosed.

966
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when Amy Schumer was pregnant, like

967
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: they I don't even know what the term is for

968
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: what she has where you're nauseous every day for your

969
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: pregnant throughout your pregnancy.

970
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, it'll come to me.

971
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: It starts with an E, but it's got about forty

972
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: seven syllables.

973
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, Yes, she didn't.

974
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Get diagnosed until, like, you know, halfway through her pregnancy,

975
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: and she was vomiting every single day.

976
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: Like no one ever told you that was an option.

977
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: They tell you about morning sickness last the first trimester,

978
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: they don't say, oh, you could also be sick for

979
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: dine month straight or exactly.

980
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: What it's like something grab us something I.

981
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: Don't know, grav locks, that's what you put. I think

982
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: that that's what you put on your bagel.

983
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: Well, our next collar is lazette, and she says, Dear Chelsea,

984
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: I have a fourteen year old daughter, and like everyone

985
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: told me, my little girl has become a nightmare.

986
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: She's a good kid with.

987
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: A good hat on her shoulders, but the attitude is real.

988
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: I cannot get her to help clean up around the house,

989
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: the biggest issue, or clean up her bedroom or bathroom.

990
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: We have a two bed, two bath condo and it's

991
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: just us two. She's just so messy and I thought

992
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: by this age she would get a little better, but

993
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: she's just been a walking disaster. I've tried grounding her

994
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: and taking away her electronic devices, but she doesn't even care.

995
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 11: Please help, Lizette.

996
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: High Lazette, Highlazette, Listen, I've got a sixteen year old daughter.

997
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: It's the wet it's the towels that like really do

998
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: my head in that don't like get hung up right.

999
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: And then I get in the shower because we share

1000
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and then I'm like, wait, where are all the towels?

1001
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: And then I go into her room and they like

1002
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: are scattered everywhere. But I do want to say something

1003
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: encouraging she's sixteen now, and this weekend we were hanging

1004
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: out and we were getting home and we're going to

1005
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: go and do something and she's like, but mommy, She's like,

1006
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: I want to tie you up my room first, because

1007
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: like my girlfriends came over last night. I mean, just

1008
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: like it's a disasterrous I want to tie you eat

1009
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: up and then I'll come down and we'll do the thing.

1010
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, wow, this is crazy because

1011
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: at thirteen and fourteen, I just thought like I was

1012
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: just raising a kid that just is like going to

1013
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: ignore all of the things like can you just make

1014
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: your bed, can you just like pick up the towels? This?

1015
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: And that. You're in the thick of it right now.

1016
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: But I promise you they come out on the other side.

1017
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: And when they come out on the other side is

1018
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: when they start like hosting their friends and then they

1019
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: have like a boy come over because now all of

1020
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, they don't want to live in a pig style.

1021
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: But as soon as like they start to invite other

1022
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: people in, they like actually really start to care about,

1023
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, the things that kind of matter, and they

1024
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: realize they had to start picking up after themselves because yeah,

1025
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: taking away the electronics and all of that stuff, Like

1026
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: none of that worked for us either, and then all

1027
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden it just switched. She just kind of

1028
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: matured and evolved, which is really exciting.

1029
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: How is she outside of her messiness just raging, hormonal?

1030
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: No, she's not at all. Actually, he is really like

1031
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: a grounded kid. And that's something also that I always

1032
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: want to like, I kind of want to touch on.

1033
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: I feel like when you are in conversation with other

1034
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: people and you say that like I have a teenage daughter,

1035
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh my god, you must be going through it.

1036
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: How is that? And I just want to point out

1037
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: that nobody says that about a teenage boy. Nobody says like,

1038
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: oh god, you must be going through that. I think

1039
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: that's such bolstit. I want to call that out and

1040
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: I want to stop with that narrative because I think

1041
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: that we're putting these things that are on realistic and

1042
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: not entirely true on our young daughters.

1043
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, girls do seem I mean from my

1044
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: experience as if I am such a fucking raging bitch

1045
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: from the age thirteen to eighteen, Liz, how is your

1046
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: daughter outside of the messydess.

1047
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: Is she just hormonally out of whack? Like, because I

1048
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: do think girls at.

1049
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: That age are having a harder time than boys at

1050
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: that age. I don't think they're worse than boys. I

1051
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: think they are struggling more than boys do at that age.

1052
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 10: My daughter is definitely not like raging hormones or out

1053
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 10: of control. She's really grounded and.

1054
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: Oh it's great, very well in school. She's in a

1055
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: lot of activities. She's just messy.

1056
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: She's going to grow through that.

1057
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: She will, she will, And does that tell them what

1058
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: you told me about? Like some things she's fine at

1059
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 4: and some things she has like a panic over and

1060
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 4: a breakdown.

1061
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, So, like I try to give her easy enough chores.

1062
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 10: Obviously she's learning to clean correctly still, but yeah, like

1063
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 10: if I tell her to unload the dishwasher, she has

1064
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 10: no problem with that. But if I tell her to

1065
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 10: load the dishwasher, it is a full panic attack. It's

1066
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 10: I can't do what it is. This is a huge mountdown.

1067
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 10: I don't know why you're making me do this. It's

1068
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 10: so hard, and yeah, it's just crazy.

1069
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I feel like you already have a lot

1070
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: going for you in terms of her other behaviors. So

1071
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is the worst problem and it's temporary,

1072
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: as Michelle has elucidated, and like, yeah, so have her

1073
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: unload the dishwasher instead of load it. Have her do

1074
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: the things she's capable of and feels good about, and

1075
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: she will grow out of it absolutely. And she's got

1076
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: all these other things going for her, like she's getting

1077
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: good grades. That's really the most important thing. That she's grounded.

1078
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: That's also the most important thing. Like those are all

1079
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: good qualities and not every listen. I was away with

1080
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: my family this weekend. My sister had a big birthday,

1081
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: and I went into the kitchen to try to add

1082
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: something to a plate, like there was all this food

1083
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: in this dish and it was like stripped pork, like carnitas,

1084
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: and I was trying to put it in the pan

1085
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: for my aunt who was cooking, and three of the

1086
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: people were like, Chelsea, don't touch anything in the kitchen.

1087
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: We don't want your help.

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Speaker 2: Just go outside and use your strengths, which our personality

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00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: and talking like that made me never. Something I'll never

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00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: be able to do is anything that involves kitchen cooking.

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00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Da da da, Like I'm not good at that. I've

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: never been good at that. It's like my brain freezes

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00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: when I have to do anything that involves that.

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Speaker 3: So like, give her a little bit of latitude.

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00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: I know you're her mother and you don't want to

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00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: be sitting around cleaning up after your daughter. But MESSI

1097
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: is not the worst thing in the world. And I

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: bet you if you stop actually like trying to punish

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00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: her and try and talking about it, I bet you,

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00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: with out the pressure of it, she'll kind of come

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00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: to it on her own at some point.

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, it.

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00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: Could also be like letting the pressure off by saying like, Okay,

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: well you've got a choice, like do you want to

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00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 4: load the dishwasher or vacuum the living room or something

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00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: like that. So she's got a little bit more autonomy there,

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00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: but she still has to like help out in the

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00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: ways that you need her to help out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think honesty is the best policy.

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Speaker 1: You Know, there are times where I just like my

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: husband and I've sat the kids down and just be like, hey, guys,

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00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: we really need you to help contribute because we're really

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00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: stressed out right now over this, or we're really busy,

1114
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: or I'm working, or Daddy's trying to get this finished.

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00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm really overwhelmed with work, I'm going to be traveling

1116
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: a lot. I really need to focus on this today,

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00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: whatever you can do to kind of help get us

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00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: through the day or this week, and just having that

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: kind of communication and having that vulnerability, because I think

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00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: kids like see us as I always kind of run

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00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: into this problem too. I have to be really careful

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00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: because I'm busy, I'm traveling a lot, and I have

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: to be careful to like not come into the house

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00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: and like if I'm just kind of passing through and

1125
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: like be the nagger, you know, and they can do

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00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: this and do that, you know, And I want to

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00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: come in and be the person that kind of uplifts

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00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: them and be like hey, like wow, well done, Like

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00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: you are killing it at school right now. I'm so

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00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: proud of you, like, thank you so much. And I

1131
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: feel like in life in general, we all we all

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: want kind of that, we all want to be tapped

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00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: on the shoulder for and get that recognition for like

1134
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: the hard work and the things that we are doing right.

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Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day that

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00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: helps build confidence and inspires us to kind of do

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00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: better or try to contribute more in other areas that

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00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: maybe we're not doing so much so so that might

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00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: be another approach as well.

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00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's good, that's encouraging.

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00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you for calling in, Liz, Yes, thank you.

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00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Okay, have a great day. Okay, we're going to take

1144
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: our last break and come back to wrap up with

1145
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: the Michelle bought a hat. And we're back with Michelle Monahan,

1146
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: most recently from White Lotus.

1147
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: But you've seen her a million things.

1148
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: She was in a mission impossible three she I didn't

1149
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: know you were married to an Australian guy.

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00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: That's funny.

1151
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: I have so many Australians in my life. Australians know

1152
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 2: all about skin cancer.

1153
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 8: They know all.

1154
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: About skin cancer. They really do. Ozzie's are fantastic. I mean,

1155
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, they're just so loose and fun and a

1156
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: great sure. Yeah, I have a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been such a pleasure talking to you. I

1158
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: hope I get to see you in person at some point.

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00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: I hope we get to hang out. Well we definitely,

1160
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: Well you will get together with Leslie also great and

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00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: best of luck. I can't wait to see all the

1162
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: good things that come from white Lotus for all of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. Chelsea. You rock absolutely

1164
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: Have a great day, all right, you too. Bye bye,

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00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: thanks ladies, Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Do do do do Do do drum roll Catherine, please,

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler abroad.

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Abroad is my European tour.

1170
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: So I'm coming to obviously find a husband abroad. I

1171
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: need to get the help out of this fucking country.

1172
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: And it's not as easy as you think.

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: So I'm coming to Rekuvic, I'm coming to Dublin. I'm

1174
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: coming to the UK. I'm coming to Brussels, Paris, Belfast

1175
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: in May and June. I'm coming to Oslo, Stockholm, to Copenhagen, Manchester, London, Glasgow,

1176
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: New Zurich, Vienna. I've never ever been to Vienna, Berlin,

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Barcelona and Lisbon.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming abroad.

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00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: Is abroad that sounds like fun. I'm gonna go see

1180
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: you abroad.

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: I know I want to go see me abroad and

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Speaker 2: there all be, there all be upcoming Vegas States, April eighteenth,

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: July fifth, August thirtieth, November one and twenty ninth at

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Speaker 2: the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Do you want advice from Chelsea?

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,480
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