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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is v Matt Williamson. And well, it is schedule

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Speaker 3: release day.

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 3: We don't have all of the schedule just yet. We

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Speaker 3: know some things like we know that the Steelers will

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Speaker 3: host the Kansas City Chiefs Wednesday, December twenty fifth at

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Speaker 3: one o'clock.

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Speaker 4: That's Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: That would be Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: We also know, if so facto, that the other two

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Speaker 3: teams playing that day are Houston and Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, okay, I didn't put two and two together

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Speaker 4: on that. Okay, So we know the good games.

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Speaker 3: Those teams will then play on Saturday because of the

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Speaker 3: you get the extra day because you're playing on a.

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Speaker 4: Web that's you're saying. Okay, so the following week I.

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Speaker 2: Would assume those teams flip flop.

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Speaker 4: I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: There's Ravens on Saturday leading into that game.

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Speaker 4: And Houston's not on the schedule right, No, So okay,

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Speaker 4: so it has to be that.

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Speaker 2: That's my detective skills.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty good with detective skills considering it's a Wednesday game.

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Speaker 2: It's a Wednesday game, yes, this one.

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Speaker 4: So that would mean the Ravens Saturday to Wednesday, which

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Speaker 4: is the same as Sunday to Thursday.

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Speaker 3: They'll play the Ravens and on Saturday. And then the

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Speaker 3: kind of the nice thing about that though, first of all,

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Speaker 3: you're getting the Chiefs on a short week, yes here

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Speaker 3: here yes. Secondly, coming out of that game and this

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Speaker 3: is this is week seventeen, a nice little bye there

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Speaker 3: coming out of week seventeen in.

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Speaker 4: Really nice situation. It's almost a mini buy. Then huh

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Speaker 4: yeah that if okay, we'll kind of finding this all

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Speaker 4: out on the fly.

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Speaker 3: They win this final game against whoever that might be against,

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Speaker 3: now you can pour everything into that. You got extra

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Speaker 3: time where that the team that you're playing, whoever that's

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Speaker 3: going to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not as a division game. Then your

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Speaker 4: ankles heel a little better, and you know, Cam Hayward

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Speaker 4: at that point of the season.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's a little fresher.

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Speaker 4: You'll take a day or two off, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's interesting, So I guess there is some deductive reasoning there.

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Speaker 4: I walked in two minutes ago, just knowing Steelers were

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Speaker 4: playing the Chiefs on Christmas. That's all I knew. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And do we have start time on that one one o'clock.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna make that that's happy as we host whole

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Speaker 4: side of the family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, super excited about the time. Let's put that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna that's gonna be a hit. What I

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Speaker 4: tell her that this is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: The third time in what the last they're kind of

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Speaker 2: a popular team, seven or eight years the Steelers have

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Speaker 2: played on Christmas. Haft, they're never having played on Christmas

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Speaker 2: in their franchise history.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ho ho ho.

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Speaker 2: Now they're two and oh on Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep it going, beat the Chiefs. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure there's a better time to play the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're a really good team and you get

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Speaker 4: them here on a short week. I mean, that's that'll work. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And it's not even a night game usually Thursday night

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Speaker 4: Thursday games or night game.

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Speaker 2: It's also a Wednesday game.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin uh and the Steelers one and oh Wednesdays. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's the most coaches during the COVID year when that

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Speaker 3: game get moved around.

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Speaker 4: So there's I mean, we knew Casey was coming here

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Speaker 4: at some point, so I mean that's as good as

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Speaker 4: any I mean, that's fine by me.

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Speaker 2: On a short week, on a short they have clinched

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Speaker 2: the division by then.

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Speaker 4: That's just about say too, is that division so bad

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Speaker 4: they could they rest people at that point.

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Speaker 2: A short week maybe and then say we're going to

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Speaker 2: bring them back.

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Speaker 4: For week rest them both for weekends.

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Speaker 3: Well, he can't rest them straight, yeah, because if I

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Speaker 3: assume if they've got the division wrapped up, they probably

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Speaker 4: But no, but Andy Reid might look at it like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we just played Saturday against Houston, right, and we think

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be the case.

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Speaker 3: And if they if they win that game, you probably

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Speaker 3: beat one of the other division.

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Speaker 2: Champs potentially, right at least a favorite to win that division.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't I mean, you're gonna sit my Homes

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Speaker 4: and Chris Jones and Kelsey, but guys that are questionable

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Speaker 4: might sit for that game. I mean I think that's

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Speaker 4: highly probable. Interesting, Okay, and go into week seventier, Week

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Speaker 4: eighteen needing it or not or whatever. Okay, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean again, we knew the Chiefs were coming. I'll

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Speaker 4: take it there over most times, you know, most spots

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Speaker 4: at your beats what Baltimore has to do and go

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Speaker 4: there and open week one, you know, the whole world

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Speaker 4: staring at you.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a brutal center.

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Speaker 3: And then I also saw they play Cincinnati in week two.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens do no, No, Kansas City. Kansas City does wow. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: at least they have a long break for that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I didn't want to be the right Yeah,

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Speaker 4: well it'll be nice to hand since he division potentially

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Speaker 4: could start out with a loss in each Yeah, Kansas City,

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Speaker 4: and we knew that they'll play the whole division. But okay, well,

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Speaker 4: happy schedule release Day to everyone, And not to knock

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Speaker 4: it down at all. Really, I'm just giving the NFL

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Speaker 4: a huge, huge compliment. It amazes me that this day

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Speaker 4: has gotten so unbelievably huge. Like, I know, the Draft

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Speaker 4: is coming gone, and the Draft is a thing of

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Speaker 4: the thing of the past, but for us to for everyone,

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Speaker 4: the whole planet, to build up the schedule release Day

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Speaker 4: like this. Every year it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, it's just kind of a downtime

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Speaker 4: in NFL calendar, but they get a whole week's worth

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Speaker 4: at least of schedule talk, right right, which is impressedge

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Speaker 4: huge impressive. Yeah, so you got that all going on.

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Speaker 3: We know some other standalone games, you know who the

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Speaker 3: overseas games are and.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But everyone will come out at eight o'clock tonight. Obviously

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Speaker 3: we're doing this show at four o'clock on Wednesday, so

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Speaker 3: you know, we don't have a lot of rumors swirl in,

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Speaker 3: but nothing to confirm here except Kansas City game.

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Speaker 4: Right. So okay, now you gave some thought to that.

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Speaker 4: I like the setup. I like that it's a late,

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Speaker 4: potentially very very important by after that Chiefs game, you know,

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Speaker 4: win or lose, you're gonna have a nice long stretch

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Speaker 4: there before what could be a crucial final regular season game. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and you get the Chiefs on short rest here, you know,

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Speaker 4: in a short situation. That's not so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not so bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, like you said, you know you're going

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Speaker 3: to play them at some point. And I thought all along.

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Speaker 2: The road opponents were a little less daunting than the home.

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Speaker 4: Opponents, No question, no question.

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Speaker 2: And so you get.

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Speaker 3: An opportunity to to get the Chiefs on a short week,

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Speaker 3: why not try to take advantage.

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Speaker 4: Of Yeah, right, it's as good as good as situation

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Speaker 4: as you can get. And they always, I mean Tomlin

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid too, but standalone games usually favor Tomlin. You know,

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Speaker 4: if it's Monday night game, Sunday night game, every eye

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Speaker 4: in America beyond it, you know, kids opening their presence

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Speaker 4: and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, how many k I'm excited?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the Steelers look at that like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is this is part of the process.

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Speaker 2: So when you're you know, a good, you know team

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Speaker 2: that people want to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to tell your family you're celebrating on

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Speaker 4: the twenty six, you know, hopefully after a win, do.

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Speaker 2: Everything on Christmas Eve. Yeah, you can do it that

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Speaker 2: way too. But yeah, so that's news.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're looking at here in terms of what

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Speaker 3: we know at this point of the Steelers schedule.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, the the rest everything comes out tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything comes out Tonight's we'll have a much better idea,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk more about that on Friday when when

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Speaker 3: our show comes off. But and we will have a

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Speaker 3: show tonight as this thing is released on these very

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Speaker 3: much with WDVE as well, so you can listen in

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Speaker 3: on that one. We'll have the entire schedule and a rundown.

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Speaker 4: And this is like four or five years in a

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Speaker 4: row that I've been part of that. And it's cool,

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Speaker 4: like somebody from the station will hand me a sheet

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Speaker 4: at like seven fifty eight and be like, Okay, here

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Speaker 4: we go, you know, like it's like improv night, you know, like, well,

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Speaker 4: let's react to this.

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Speaker 2: You get your immediate impressions of the schedule.

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Speaker 4: I mean, y yeah, like ooh that bye week I

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Speaker 4: don't love or you know, this team's to be come

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Speaker 4: up a bye And then I start studying, you know,

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Speaker 4: like who do the Ravens have before the Steeler game

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Speaker 4: and things like that, and and then people start breaking

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Speaker 4: it down across obviously all over the internet of this

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Speaker 4: team's got the least amount of rest of the league,

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Speaker 4: this team travels the most miles. And I get into

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that stuff matters, it does it does?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, we'll see, uh see where the

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Speaker 3: Steelers go here. Looking at that, at that schedule, you know,

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Speaker 3: looking at the the games on the road at Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: at Denver, at Indianapolis, at Las Vegas, at Washington, at Cleveland, Baltimore, Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: cent Yeah, Baltimore, Cincy.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't sound terrible, No, it doesn't, you know, just.

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Speaker 2: A matter of when you play them, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then for the home schedule, you know, you get

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, you got Dallas, you get the Jets, you

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Speaker 3: you got the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I forgot I forgot one of the road games.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's not great.

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Speaker 2: That's not good, not great.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the rest of them, you know that that

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Speaker 3: I think the home schedules a little more difficult.

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Speaker 4: Would you'd rather have it?

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Speaker 2: You'd rather play them at home?

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Speaker 4: Of course. So a couple of things I'm gonna have

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Speaker 4: an eye out for. Are they played Denver early, because

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Speaker 4: I definitely think that's a disadvantage. I mean, I definitely

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Speaker 4: think that's a disadvantage because you just haven't played a

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Speaker 4: ton of snaps a full game, and then you have

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Speaker 4: to go to the light air. But the other thing

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Speaker 4: about Denver is there's a couple of teams on that

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Speaker 4: schedule that have probably rookie quarterbacks. Yes, would you rather

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Speaker 4: play a rookie quarterback early in the year or late?

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Speaker 4: I think early.

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Speaker 2: Early, especially if he has a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just having not necessarily in week one, right,

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Speaker 3: because I'm going to have some tape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's nice too. And he's been prepping for you

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Speaker 2: Anytime after week one, I'm good with it.

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Speaker 4: Those are blows, Those are big deals. You know. The

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Speaker 2: As I want to see what they are though.

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Speaker 3: There's also, you know, the fact that we as we

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Speaker 4: In terms of just durability, I would think Steelers quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Not only that, but we've talked about it, they had

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Speaker 4: I think that's not insanity. I don't know. The division games.

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Speaker 2: You just don't know.

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Speaker 3: Though, those are three teams they played last year too. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not gonna be that big a deal for.

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Speaker 4: right that, Hey, at least we get one dome game

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: Matt switch up the gears here a little bit. Uh

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Speaker 3: looking here to Bill Barnwell piece on ESPN post NFL

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Speaker 3: Draft trades signings that should happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the Steelers are mentioned.

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Speaker 3: One of those that involves the Steelers. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 3: and take a look at these.

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Speaker 2: We don't do the Steeler on first. Do you want

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Speaker 4: Save it? I'll make people listen, tune out on.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna listen so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Uh So his first one is the Jaguars trade for

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Speaker 4: I think he could be on the move. They have

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Speaker 4: He's still a really good player. The whole planet knows.

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Speaker 4: The Saints always have cap issues the Jags, whether it's

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Speaker 4: be had. Would you have any interest for the Steelers?

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Speaker 4: I really don't. But no, I mean, I mean he's

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Speaker 4: all in all, he's expensive and he's more of an

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what it would be. Would be a luxury.

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Speaker 3: The next one, the Raiders sign cornerback adri Jackson, And that's.

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Speaker 4: What you're picking from. Yeah, that's not that exciting at all.

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Speaker 3: People are beating the drum in Pittsburgh to go sign

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Speaker 2: Where's he playing for you?

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Speaker 2: They fall off the cliff, They fall off the Cliff.

441
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: And it's always I mean, thirty four, you're past the know,

442
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: the eighteenth hole in the world of corner.

443
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 2: That's your expiration date.

444
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're living on borrow time, that's sure. Darryl

445
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 4: Darryl Green, Darryl Green. Yeah, there's a couple of freaks

446
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 4: in nature, but that's a bad investment. History shows, Yeah,

447
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 4: you might maybe get a year out of them, who knows,

448
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 4: but history shows that's a big, big risk.

449
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Doc doesn't excite me at all either.

450
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what's out there though, in the

451
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 4: fact they didn't even list him as a headline or

452
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 4: even write a piece, you know, write a couple of para.

453
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: Are still a lot of slot type corners out there.

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: There are, and they're always will be.

455
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can get those guys.

456
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 4: We even talked a ton about the average signing. He

457
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 4: looks like a slot. Most of his snaps have been outside. Yeah,

458
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 4: and folks, I don't know that he's the answer or anything.

459
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: I mean, he's had he's barely laide in two years.

460
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 4: You know, he easily thrown into the mix and we'll see.

461
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I take a shot and see, yeah, you

462
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 3: see if it sticks. Uh, I don't like guess one either.

463
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: The Patriots sign offensive tackle Donovan Smith. Do they hate

464
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: Ray May?

465
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

466
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: They hate the Drake, right.

467
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 4: I mean I'd rather choose that's who's pencil left tackle

468
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 4: than Smith, and Smith stinks. I say, he's bad and

469
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 4: he's always been expensive, a lot of penalties. He'll end

470
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: up somewhere, but man, that's a weird career path. When

471
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: you're like that guy, you know you're highly drafted. I

472
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: think he has Super Bowl ring. You know, he's made

473
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,239
Speaker 4: a lot of money, et cetera, et cetera. But no

474
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: one's going to look at him and be like, that's

475
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 4: our starting left tackle.

476
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: And there's the answer, right.

477
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 4: I mean, he's more like the Raven Clark from a

478
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 4: year ago guy now where you're a tackle and you

479
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: can walk in chew gum and you've had some success

480
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 4: in this league, so you'll play, but I can't count

481
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: on you to be out there a lot.

482
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Speaker 2: Oh no, No. The Vikings sign wide receiver hunter renfro.

483
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: Okay.

484
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Be a little redundant, wouln't it.

485
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't really have a third guy that jumps

486
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: off the table at this point. I mean Jefferson and

487
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: Addison are both slot capable. I guess you'd rather keep

488
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: him both outside.

489
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: They got Trent Sheffield, Brandon Powell. You know, I guess

490
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro but you only have so many targets.

491
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: To go around. Yeah, it's going to catch a bunch

492
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: of balls. Yeah, you know, Jefferson is going to catch

493
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of balls. He's the first round pick on.

494
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: Like they like Addison there. Yeah, I don't know. Renfer

495
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 4: is a hard one to comment on because he's another

496
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: guy that hasn't played much at all over like two years.

497
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 4: He was good. I mean, one of the things he's

498
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 4: going against him was the Raiders were Domin gave him

499
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: a big contract, you know, like it doesn't count, doesn't count.

500
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 4: But you don't have much to go off of on him.

501
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't know that he's a starting slot anymore. Yeah,

502
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 4: I don't know if he don't, I just don't know.

503
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: Right on his best day he was yeah.

504
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: Uh. The Lions trade for Texans wide receiver Robert Woods.

505
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: This is what I brought up for the Steelers, that

506
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Speaker 3: Robert Woods would be a guy that he's interesting.

507
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a professional. He's not what he was good

508
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: locker room guy. For what I understand as well, tough

509
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: better around the block. Was never the twitchiest or fastest

510
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: even coming out of college or anything like that. But

511
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 4: he's a professional and knows how to get open. I'm

512
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: a Lions I would be interested in that. I mean,

513
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: they have a lot of stock in Jamison Williams, right,

514
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: they really do. Like, Yes, the Lions had a good

515
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: off season, especially on defense, but they're kind of counting

516
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 4: on Williams to be in every down player, which would

517
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 4: worry me. Like Reynolds isn't even there anymore.

518
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: Right, they don't have that backup plan. But Robert Woods

519
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: to me for the Steelers would make a lot of sense.

520
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's probably better than the Watkins Van

521
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: Jefferson level, you know. I mean, he's not the Pickens level,

522
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: but it'd probably be the leader in the clubhouse of Thattor.

523
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: You don't need two Pickens. Yeah, what you need is

524
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: Pickens and who.

525
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Who's the other guy that's gonna take the pressure off

526
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: of Pickings. Yeah, knows how to get open in this league.

527
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: And you look at the Texas on the outside. Texans

528
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: have a lot of receivers. All of a sudden, I

529
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 3: think they drafted one or two.

530
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they still have John Maychie there.

531
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: Match he's there, right, the two starting studs from a

532
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: year ago. Yeah, I'm sure you could. You know, prbe

533
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: somebody away.

534
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: And they just they went out and traded for Ben's

535
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: scronic too last week.

536
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 4: Oh I did that. Yeah, I missed that earlier.

537
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: Actually he was earlier this week.

538
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: That's an odd move. Yeah, they must be have something

539
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: in the works. Yeah. I can't believe Woods will be

540
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 4: back then.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his base salary is six point three million,

542
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: so it's not like it's.

543
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: It's not terrible. He's probably worth that at this point.

544
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

545
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 4: Moves the chain guy. Yeah, okay, yeah, I think yeah.

546
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, take one of those. Uh, moving on here. The

547
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: Rams signed Justin Simmons. Cool.

548
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: I think they am trying to think who their defense

549
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: coordinator is, but I think he has Fangio ties. That's

550
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: when Simmons was at his very best. Is the Fangio system.

551
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: I can't say there. They signed Cameron Curl. Yeah, so

552
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: that'd be two. Cameron Curl doesn't sound like a big name, folks,

553
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: but he was. He's made a lot of money over

554
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: the last two years, you know. I mean, he's an

555
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 4: upper end starting safety. Okay, I mean they need some

556
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: pieces on defense, some identity guys that.

557
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Would work and give him a veteran presence.

558
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: I was thinking too, Yeah, I mean defense, you.

559
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: Lost Aaron Donald on.

560
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: That side of the ball, getting everybody aligned and you

561
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: know how to play in stadiums and that kind of thing. Yeah, okay,

562
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that.

563
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: Panic When things aren't going right, I would.

564
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: Say Simmons is, off the top of my head, is

565
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: probably the best unemployed football player right now, I would

566
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: say so. Yeah, he's pretty good. Uh.

567
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: The Chiefs sign safety slash linebacker Jamal Adams yuck.

568
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he has had it. They're right. You

569
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: could get him for cheap. I mean, if you treat

570
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: him like a linebacker, fine, he is. His brand name

571
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: is way, way, way more.

572
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: About third four games in the last four seasons.

573
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he throws his body around and everyone loves his

574
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 4: style of play and team captain type guy at LSU.

575
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: But he does a lot of those. It used to

576
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 4: be tweeners were a bad word. Now tweeners mean versatile,

577
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 4: which is good. But he's a tweener the bad word. Yeah,

578
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: Like because he's near the lines, scrimmage. They they target

579
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: him with tight ends and he can't keep up with

580
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: those guys and he can't play the deep half.

581
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

582
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: Really, all he does is blitz and play the blitz

583
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: and play the run right right, in today's NFL, I

584
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: can get somebody cheaper to do that.

585
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: Like this sounds crazy, folks, but he's closer to Levon

586
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: Kirkland than he is Minka Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and he's making

587
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: the size right, that's the problem here, right.

588
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Bears sign edge rusher Emmanuel Ogba.

589
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: That would do you know, I mean, I think there's

590
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: a real good chance their first round pick next year

591
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: is a defensive lineman of some sort, maybe an edge,

592
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: you know, opposite sweat. He would hold down the fort.

593
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: He's a pro.

594
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, here's one in the division.

595
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: The Ravens sign guard Dalton Reisner. Yeah, that makes a

596
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: lot of This will make a ton of sense for that.

597
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: He's not great, but he's going to be a starter.

598
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: Probably gives you another body throw in there if you

599
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: have to l McCary out to tackle.

600
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: All of a sudden your pieces, the puzzle goes together

601
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: a lot easier, you know, And one injury doesn't destroy you,

602
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: or if voar he's isn't as good as you thought

603
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: he was fine? You know, right, I got a veteran

604
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: there peer guard. I think he can't play center, but

605
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: he'd be a peer guard for that.

606
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that would make a ton of

607
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: sense for them because.

608
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: I yeah, you know, and if you're a team like that,

609
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: you could pick up some dudes at a reasonable price

610
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: right now, any team could Steelers good too?

611
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really they You know, do you want

612
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: to count on Roger Rosengarten to be your starting right tackle?

613
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: Right?

614
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Like we have? He has to hit. Do you want

615
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: to you want to count on where he's having to hit?

616
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: That's the thing is you're both far from sure things.

617
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 4: That's different than the Steelers first two round picks in

618
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: might right on the line.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I completely agree. I mean you're talking about

620
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: who was the tenth or eleventh or twelfth best tackle

621
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: in this in this draft class versus a guy a

622
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: this you know, Frasier was one of the top two

623
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: or three centers in this draft.

624
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of the top five offensive tackles in

625
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: this draft.

626
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: It's much different, much different. And Rose of guard might

627
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: be fine. I doubt he's great this year. Yeah, I

628
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: don't fine. I think what they would take I.

629
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Would not have high. He's more of a developmental project.

630
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 4: He's just stronger. Yeah, you fill out a little bit. Yeah,

631
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 4: but no pure guard would help. I mean you lost

632
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: Simpson and you lost Zeitler. I mean to true guards,

633
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: that's a move they should really consider.

634
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly forere somebody else doesn't.

635
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah uh.

636
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: And then it brings us to the Steelers suggestion here,

637
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: and this is one that we've talked about a little bit.

638
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 3: Steelers trade for Titans wide receiver Traylon Burks.

639
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a fun conversation.

640
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: Go listen to the show.

641
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, so people don't know on draft day

642
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: a J. Brown gets traded from the Titans to the Eagles,

643
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: and like they show cameras and.

644
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: Break John Robinson right yeah, than the GM.

645
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: And Vrabel's noticeably upset and to.

646
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: The point where he walks out of the room, right right, right, He.

647
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: Was not happy, should not be on TV. Yeah. So,

648
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: and I don't think any of them hated Burkes, but

649
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: they thought they would do the digs for Jefferson draft

650
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: day swap. So let's draft Burks in the twenties or whatever.

651
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you and I talked about Burkes going

652
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: to that draft, and I never loved them, you know,

653
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: because he's not He was a raw guy. Then. He

654
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: was kind of like Malachi Corley, that's right, right. All

655
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: of his stuff was manufacturer touches, reverses, bubble screens, developing

656
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: route runner. So the Titans didn't do him any justice

657
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: at all. They said, come in and be an every

658
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: down player, just like AJ Brown.

659
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Speaker 2: We want you to be our number one.

660
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, lineup on the line of scrimmage and beat man

661
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: coverage and run out routes and deep comebacks and routes

662
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: that you don't really have any experience. He's had some injuries,

663
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: but they never asked him to do the right stuff,

664
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: you know, like in this offense. He could kind of

665
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: be your Quarteruro Patterson. You could bring him along slow.

666
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 4: He could learn a lot from Patterson and that they

667
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: kind of had somewhat similar career paths. He might not

668
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: ever hit, he may never turn into a good receiver.

669
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: He may not even make this team or the Titans

670
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: this year. Right looking, I looked into this one a

671
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: little bit. I think he's like a six million dollar

672
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: cap hit, which means to me, you could get him

673
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: for maybe one of those sevens or a sixth or

674
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: you say, Tennessee, you got to pick up half.

675
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Of his making additional right, he's got to make the roster.

676
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: He's got to, you know, start this many games, catch

677
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: as many passes. I mean, if you look at the

678
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: first two seasons, he's still young, he's still twenty four.

679
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: As a rookie, he caught thirty three passes for four

680
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four yards in a touchdown.

681
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well right again miscast And I don't think

682
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: he played every game.

683
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in eleven games, and he played eleven games.

684
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: Last year when I went down to sixteen catches for

685
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty one yards, no touchdowns. Now, not

686
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: only has Robinson gone, he got fired in twenty twenty two,

687
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: Vrabel's gone.

688
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: So everywhere there that brought you in.

689
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: You got no friends anymore, you know, Yeah, they're all gone, right,

690
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: and he probably would want out.

691
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: And they went out and brought in a bunch of receivers.

692
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: If you look at their death chart, it's Hopkins big money,

693
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: it's Ridley really really big money. Westbrook a Keene they

694
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: brought back at Okay, I mean he was free agent,

695
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 4: they gave him a decent contract. They just signed Boyd

696
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: like the other day, and Phillips is, Yeah, he's somebody

697
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: that's played meaningful snaps for them. There might even be

698
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: one more in the mix because I think they I

699
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: think they drafted a receiver that will probably make the team,

700
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: like a fifth round guy or something like that too,

701
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: Like somebody's gonna give and it's not any of the

702
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: new guys, and it's not Hopkins.

703
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean you could just wait this out too, because

704
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: are they going.

705
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: To keep yeah, all of them. Yeah, But I think

706
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: you get them for a seventh especially if you have

707
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: no problem putting six million under your cap. I think

708
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: they're real tight against the cap too. Now, well maybe not.

709
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: They had a lot to spend.

710
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: He probably won't be six million though this year for

711
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: the team to trades for him.

712
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: If I thought it was reasonably decent because he's the

713
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: first round pick.

714
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: Well, he initially signed a four year, fourteen point three

715
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: million dollar contract. Okay, but that includes signing bonus, so

716
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: his salary cap hit. His base salary is one point five.

717
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: To sixty seven.

718
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was like six.

719
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: Next year it's two point six.

720
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: That's nothing.

721
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Now I believe that is fully guaranteed.

722
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: Okay, but it's still peanuts.

723
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: You know his CA he's on the right now. The

724
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: Titans are on the hook for three.

725
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: His cap hit this year is three point nine million,

726
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: next year is four point five.

727
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: But if he's a borderline roster guy or your six receiver.

728
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's not. I don't know. Does he play

729
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: any special.

730
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: Team I don't think so.

731
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

732
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: Maybe he'd be a kickoff returner with these rules or something.

733
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't think. I think he did that at Arkansas.

734
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he's done it with the Titans.

735
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only played twenty five special team snaps in

736
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: his first two seasons combined.

737
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: I assume that's is a returner. I don't think he's

738
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: running down on kickoff tackling anybody. He is a first

739
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: round receiver, Yeah, yeah, so okay, but so he's done

740
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: a little of it, but not a toime. Again, would

741
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: that solve the wide receiver room for the Steelers?

742
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: Probably not, but it gives you another body with a

743
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: lot of talent. I look at him kind of the

744
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: same way. I look at Denzel Mims right right, right,

745
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: right now. The Mims you got for nothing, but the

746
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: pedigree is there with Mims and James.

747
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: Of scenery for Birks, whether a tier or somewhere else

748
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: would be really good for it.

749
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if we've talked enough about Denzel Mims now.

750
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: He's not a throwaway camp.

751
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy he's still just twenty six.

752
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: His first few seasons in the NFL.

753
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: I think he was like the fortieth pick in the

754
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: draft out a Baylor who ran like two routes.

755
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: So his first season is twenty twenty with the JITs.

756
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: He catches twenty three passes for three hundred and fifty

757
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: seven yards.

758
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: He's considered a disappointing rookie year. Yeah, they also had

759
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: that awful quarterback.

760
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Off court he played.

761
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: He played nine games twenty twenty one, he plays in

762
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: eleven games, catches eight passes for one hundred and thirty

763
00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: three yards.

764
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, twenty twenty one, if you remember, was not a.

765
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: Good year for this for the Jets. They were still

766
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: starting were they starting Wilson at that point?

767
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 4: I would say their quarterback play before Rogers was basically

768
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 4: the worst.

769
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: In the league with Atlanta and then his final season

770
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, he played in ten games, four of

771
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: them starts had eleven catches for one hundred and eighty

772
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: six yards. But he's ever six sixteen point one yards

773
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: per catch in his career. That's what he's down the

774
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: field threat.

775
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we can blame quarterback play, but he had

776
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: a hard time seeing the field too, Like he was

777
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: never a starter, you know what I mean. Like so

778
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: when drafted, he's like six three, kind of a linear

779
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: four to three flat type of guy. I mean, like

780
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: he is fast pounds. Yeah, yeah, I mean Baylor, he

781
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: lit it up, didn't run a lot of routes. I

782
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: mean they had a real Mickey mouse offense, you know,

783
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 4: big twelve stuff. And then he goes to Senior Bowl

784
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: and really shined and gets in the top fifty overall.

785
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: Maybe the top forty was early second for what I remember,

786
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: no one batter than I now. Can he break a

787
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: corner down and snap off an out route, I don't know,

788
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 4: but we'll see in La Trobe.

789
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean a six three guy who

790
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: ran a four to three eight A.

791
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: Commons that's where it was.

792
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, his vertical was thirty eight and a half inches.

793
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like he's outside the numbers go up and

794
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: get it. Yeah, Christian Watson type. Yeah, you know that

795
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 4: type of guy. Okay, you know, accumulated enough of those

796
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: in your practices, and if one hits worth it, like

797
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: him and Burks, you have nothing. If you have a

798
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: seventh round pick invested in some cap space between the

799
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: two of them, and one of them hits, that's a

800
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: home run. Yeah, you know, and that's I wouldn't go

801
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: in to say, oh that's the answer, but as of now,

802
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of options, and I'd be very

803
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 4: interested in Burkes, and I'm excited to watch memes.

804
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's different than the other guys memes. Yeah yeah,

805
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: outside of Pickens.

806
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm talking about the non Pickings He's right.

807
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: He his profile is actually very Pickens like.

808
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, not as physical, I mean, not as talented. Frankly,

809
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: I mean few are, but yeah, I think he is

810
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: more of the Pickings type. You know, he's not gonna

811
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 4: not that he can't go over the middle, but that's

812
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: not his specialty, you know. I mean he's big, tall, fast, yeah, yeah,

813
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 4: which Burk's is a lot different than that though. Yeah,

814
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: Burk's is rugged and yeah, his muscles and you I

815
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: mean he's hard to get on the ground. I'd be

816
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: interested in all those guys.

817
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I still think there's something that's going

818
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: to happen out there, whether it be something like that

819
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: or whether it be making a trade with the Giants.

820
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: You know, there's Courtland Sutton.

821
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: Is still working out with the Broncos.

822
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: When's that gonna wear it thin? I mean that could

823
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: go into camp and who knows? Yeah, right, so.

824
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: You just don't know.

825
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's still guys who are going to

826
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: become available throughout this process. I mean, you know we

827
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: mentioned Robert Woods. I mean, what would stop the Steelers

828
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: from trading for Robert Woods?

829
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: Nothing?

830
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: Nothing, you know, So there's use of the Giants. I

831
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: mean that's Slaton for Yeah, we've be thrown out there.

832
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: You mentioned it a lot of times, and I don't

833
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: think it'd be that expensive. He'd be he's better than

834
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: everybody not named Pickens on the team.

835
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more established a yeah, yeah player.

836
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: I'd rather play against all those guys than Slaton right now.

837
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get through another break. He is d Matt Williamson.

838
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,680
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839
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840
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,960
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Speaker 2: And uh, you know who knows Matty can go ahead.

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Speaker 3: And get some some of these rookie joy stuff here

853
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: big sellers.

854
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Uh in Detroit.

855
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: They can now go out and buy Jared Goff jerseys

856
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: because he's going to be there for a while.

857
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: What do you think on this seven years? I'm sorry,

858
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: four years.

859
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: It's two hundred and twelve million dollars, one hundred and

860
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: seventy million dollars fully guaranteed, he'll be seventy he'll be

861
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: thirty four when the deal expires, and it's fifty three

862
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: million dollars per year average, which is second only to

863
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Joe Burrows fifty five million. That's not including Deshaun Watson's

864
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: ridiculous deal where they kept He's now sixty three million

865
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: dollars a year for the next for the next few

866
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 3: years here because they kick some money down through the line.

867
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Speaker 4: He's a really good player. I think the Lions golf

868
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: experience has gone really well. You know that they've won

869
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: a lot of games. He's a leader, he's fit the

870
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: team persona. I kind of thought he was a California

871
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: beach bum Fairweather Fairweather type guy. But he's down a

872
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 4: lot of toughness there. But he's a certain type of

873
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: quarterback in that he was a first overall pick what

874
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: ten years ago, eight years ago, something like that. I

875
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: don't think most years. I don't think even now he'd

876
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: be the first overall pick because he's not a great athlete.

877
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 4: He's not a great improv guy, and the league has

878
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: switched that way, and all the numbers show it, and

879
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 4: the tape shows it. When he's protected with a good

880
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: supporting cast, he will carve you up and he throws

881
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: the ball really, really well. But when he's not protected

882
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: or things don't exactly go paint by numbers, it gets bad.

883
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it gets noticeably worse. I wouldn't say it's terrible.

884
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: He doesn't have massive weaknesses. So they have a great

885
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: line and a great scheme. But they just gave Penny

886
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: Stool money. Are they going to continue to have a high.

887
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Priced do Linet brown a bunch of money.

888
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: A bunch of money, right, I'm sure their coordinator will

889
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 4: move on sooner than later.

890
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: You're talking about three offensive players who all got big paydays.

891
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: Money, all within a couple weeks of each other. Yeah,

892
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, these contracts keep coming out

893
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: and cap keeps going up, and these owners know that

894
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: the league is very, very healthy, you know.

895
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: And here's the thing though, Matt, Yeah, if you were

896
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, if you were the adult the Dolphins, if

897
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: you're the forty nine.

898
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: Ers, Yeah, and you got to you got to go

899
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: to the next one.

900
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got.

901
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is up too. Trevor Lawrence is coming up.

902
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: So you know, some of these guys, you know, if

903
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: you're Dak Prescott.

904
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: You're doing cartwheel.

905
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: You want more than you want borrow money. I want

906
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: more than they just they just gave Golf fifty three

907
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: million a year. I'm I'm better than.

908
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: Him, especially if he gets on the open market and

909
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: teams are competing for your services, which Dak can. They

910
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: don't have the price to They don't have the power

911
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: to keep Dak. If you know, if his contract expires

912
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: two I would come in too. Is the interesting one

913
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: to me? Well, they are if i'm too, I'm going

914
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 4: to come in with that number, not expecting to get it,

915
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: but being in that neighborhood.

916
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: I want to be in that. I want to be

917
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: living in that neighborhood.

918
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: I mean led the league and passing yards this year,

919
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: and I think is worth that.

920
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: No, you want to pay bark Party that kind of money.

921
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: That's what he's gonna ask. I mean, you've been he's

922
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: been making a million.

923
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: People blowing them up.

924
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: He's this, he's this, He's well, Okay, put your money

925
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: where your mouth is and show us that you feel that.

926
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: Way about it.

927
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, So would you have given Golf this contract? I Mean,

928
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: one thing I think about the Lions too, is great

929
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: fan base that loves a guy that has been beaten

930
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: down for years and you finally have hope maybe we

931
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: can win the whole thing, you know, And I think

932
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: there's something to that that maybe we'll take the best

933
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: business decision and push it to the side to try

934
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: to win in these next two years or so.

935
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Fifty three million dollars a year, though I know so much,

936
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: so much. You're paying him more than Lamar Jackson's making.

937
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: You're paying him more than than Patrick Mahomes is.

938
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: Making, like everybody in the league except like two people. Yeah,

939
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean it's so much. Of of course, is just

940
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 4: the timing of it. You come up at the right time,

941
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: you're going to get more than everybody. And I understand that,

942
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: but I thought it'd be like forty five, which I

943
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: still thought was a lot, you know what, I right,

944
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: But that's a huge deal.

945
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 3: That's now the cost of doing business for a Yeah,

946
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean Golf's top twelve.

947
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could easily come up with eight that put

948
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: ahead of them probably. But then he's in that next neighborhood.

949
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 4: And we referenced Mike Sando and this.

950
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: Is really hearkens back, not to interrupt you, if you

951
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: remember the Derek Carr contract that he signed with the Raiders. Like,

952
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: right what, he was the highest paid player in the

953
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: NFL when they signed him that deal.

954
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: He's like thirty five millions.

955
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, a similar point of his career. Yeah, I mean,

956
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: he hasn't done as well in New Orleans, but he

957
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 4: was coming off a really good year with the Raiders

958
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: and we were said, yeah, I actually remember that year.

959
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: I was doing quarterback ranks and he was like eleventh

960
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: or twelve. For me, it was like right outside the

961
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: top ten. That has value, you know what I mean?

962
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: I think you can can you beat the mahomess in

963
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: Allen's with that when they're not making massive money. I

964
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: think you can build around them. I don't know. I

965
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: think you need a bounce or something to go your

966
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: way to consistently hang with those teams when you are

967
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: paying them massive money. And my theory on it is

968
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: again Mike Sander puts out as quarterback tiers, which you know,

969
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 4: we can fight if this guy should be the top

970
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: of Tier three year on the bottom of Tier two

971
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: or whatever. But there's a rule thumb. I think if

972
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: you have a Tier one guy, you just give him

973
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 4: a blank check in your throat, you know, yeah, great,

974
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: But there are many of those there's four on the

975
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: planet or six or whatever. If you have a tier

976
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: two two guy, I think you pay him, you know,

977
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: whatever the going rate is that particular year.

978
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: He just showed you that he could take you to

979
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: the Coff Championship.

980
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think Goff's a tier two guy. But

981
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: at the bottom of it, right, you know, Like, I'm

982
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: pretty certain Dak is a tier two guy. But I

983
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: mean if Dak wants sixty, you know, I mean, if

984
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: he's on the free agent work and there's five teams

985
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: after him, it's crazy. I don't know what to think

986
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: of it, to be honest with you, but to I

987
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: know that Dallas, frankly isn't being very smart here. They

988
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 4: should have had Dak locked up months ago or a

989
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: year ago and not been in this neighborhood. They could

990
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: have got him probably for forty five, which would we

991
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: would have been like, Wow, it was Dac really worth

992
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: forty five? Right now it's gonna be Dack worth fifty eight.

993
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: And two of of me is not that he's not

994
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: a tier two quarterback. Yeah, I'm with you, Golf might be.

995
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: I don't think two is Yeah, two.

996
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: Is more of a I feel like about Tua like

997
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: I feel about Purty a lot. They both fit into

998
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: the system well real well, but can you you know

999
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: there are there more talented guys out there.

1000
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: Yes, they're not improv guys either. I mean, golf would

1001
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: be great in those systems too, right, there's no doubt.

1002
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: And he's a good system too. And I hate the

1003
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: term system quarterback because that's a marriage between staff and

1004
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: quarterback too.

1005
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Like it also doesn't hurt that you have you know,

1006
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: Waddle and Hill or fo and yeah, I mean they've

1007
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: got great guys with them.

1008
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Cousins, said Jefferson.

1009
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: I mean I think Cousins, which is why you know

1010
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: you could afford those guys when those quarterbacks were on

1011
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: their rookie deals.

1012
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 4: Do you know if you had what Cousins is making

1013
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: because he was a free agent, I didn't think he's

1014
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: close to that.

1015
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: No, he's not.

1016
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: It was like he was older.

1017
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: It's like forty five.

1018
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know it's over forty, but I think

1019
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: it's a lot less than fifty five.

1020
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: A year, four years, one hundred and eighty million.

1021
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so he came in forty five, yeah, yeah, which

1022
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: I know he's coming off an injury and he's a

1023
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: little older, but he's every bit of him and Golfer

1024
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: about the same. If I were to rank quarterbacks right

1025
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: or take.

1026
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: The only difference is he's older and coming off injury.

1027
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get him on a slight discount there.

1028
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: But Okay, I don't know I get it for Detroit.

1029
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't know that I will get it for Miami

1030
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: if they do the same thing, I would get it

1031
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: for Lawrence. I'd get it for you.

1032
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: He almost has to, though they don't have a backup plans.

1033
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: Say, as I say the Nax's we were talking about

1034
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: this off the air that at least Detroit had a

1035
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: little bit of foresight a year ago to draft Hooker

1036
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: who was coming off an injury, and yeah, would have

1037
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: been drafted higher.

1038
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: But the Cowboys made the deal for to get Tree Lance.

1039
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 4: At least Lance is a shot. You know, Miami's got nothing,

1040
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 4: and it's a terrible way to do business or negotiate

1041
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: with because I think this was the with Daniel Jones,

1042
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 4: is well what else can we do? That's the wrong

1043
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 4: way to look at it. You know, like the Steelers

1044
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: might have this issue a year from that. I mean,

1045
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: they are gonna have this issue a year from now,

1046
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: whether Wilson Fields are good, bad or not.

1047
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make a decision on the Dak Prescott.

1048
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah right right, which they could do. They have the

1049
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: money that they could be one of those teams, but

1050
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 4: it will be sixty ish. Yeah, I think you would

1051
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: rather have for.

1052
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: A guess who never has never done anything for.

1053
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: You would rather have three T. J. Watts or Dak Prescott,

1054
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like somebody's got to be

1055
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: your quarterback. I mean, I get all sides. I just

1056
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: think it's a little bit of wild wild West right

1057
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: now with quarterback contracts and.

1058
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine though that that the uh

1059
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 3: general managers or the owners in those places that we're

1060
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: very happy to see hiret Goff get fifty three million

1061
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: a year.

1062
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm Jerry Jones, I am upset. But

1063
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: you kind of have no one to blame but yourself. Jerry,

1064
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: you knew this was coming.

1065
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: You could have done this, You could have done this

1066
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: long ago.

1067
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you could give him a little you could

1068
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: can Burrow and Herbert signed. You'll probably given him a

1069
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: little less than them and being the same or even

1070
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: the same, and it would have been a discount compared

1071
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: to buying him now right. I mean, yeah, they're in

1072
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: a tough situation. Miami's in a tough situation. I would

1073
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: imagine Jacksonville gives Lawrence anything he wants. They might regret it,

1074
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: but I bet he gets anything he wants.

1075
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't. He hasn't earned it.

1076
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 4: He hasn't quite earned it. No, I think he's better

1077
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: than two. I don't know if he's better than Golf

1078
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: right this minute. Yeah, he was a better player today.

1079
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: Right, No, Yeah, I mean you're you know, with Lawrence,

1080
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: you're kind of paying for what you hope he turns into.

1081
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he hasn't been that yet.

1082
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: And the nature of that. You know that team too,

1083
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: he's really the He's on every billboard, you know. I mean,

1084
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 4: like if Golf left town Detroit fans would be upset.

1085
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: But he still have a line and he still have

1086
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: a system and defense looks better, you know to you

1087
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 4: could plug in party, you could plug somebody in. Those

1088
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 4: two are tough.

1089
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting, Like maybe he.

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Speaker 4: Had rather party than I think he's better athlete, better

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Speaker 4: improv neither's perfect that way, they're both really good processors.

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Speaker 4: But I think Perdy's a little better. I think two

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Speaker 4: is what he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is to.

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Speaker 3: Me, it'd be interesting to see if either one of

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Speaker 3: those two teams walk away from those guys right, try

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Speaker 3: to go get the next which I would get.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're considered these offensive masterminds. And there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of talk.

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Speaker 2: That's that's why the Rams get rid of Goff.

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Speaker 4: That's what I said. I mean they he had to

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Speaker 4: get to go get Stafford, which was worked out great

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Speaker 4: for the Rams, but there was a lot of talk

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Speaker 4: before the Rams paid Golf his last contract. Is McVeigh

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Speaker 4: good enough just to say, I'll trade Golf to the

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Speaker 4: Raiders for a first round pick and go find go Fish,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Go get the next guy

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Speaker 4: and I'll just coach him up. I could see the ship.

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Speaker 4: I could see the Dolphins, especially the Niners, trying it

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Speaker 4: like I am such a good coach. I'd rather have

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Speaker 4: Debo and Trent Williams and aukn Kittle than a fifty

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Speaker 4: million dollars quarterback. And I'll not I'm a draft one

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Speaker 4: the seventh again and just take mister irrelevant and you know,

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Speaker 4: give me Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 3: People talk about that, Like it's just the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Like you can get running backs anywhere, we can get quarterbacks. Look,

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Speaker 3: there's you know, he was the last pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: run through the fifty other guys who were taking in

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Speaker 3: those same drafts who didn't hit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, since then, I mean, it's such a low percentage

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Speaker 4: that even still in the league. Not to mention, nobody

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Speaker 4: talks about this, but the Niners were bailed out with

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Speaker 4: one of the worst quarterback trades in the history of

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Speaker 4: the league. I mean, it's not far off the Watson

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Speaker 4: and Wilson deal from Denver and Browns trading up that

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Speaker 4: much for trade Lance and then dumping them for a

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Speaker 4: fifth round pick two years later. I mean, if they

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Speaker 4: don't hit on Party, they're like one of the worst

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Speaker 4: teams the league, right, I mean, who knows what happens,

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Speaker 4: but they missed a massive swing on Lance. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: even if Lance turns into a great player down the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 3: That's going to do it for our number one of

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Speaker 3: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, Matt and I

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Speaker 3: will be back with our number two right after this