1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Ken 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: is way today and let's plunge right in. Steve Gregory 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: has been in Mali all week. Today's final day, reporting 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: on the aftermath of the horrific fire that killed over 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: one hundred people. One of the stories today is the 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: head of the Malle Emergency Management Agency resigned yesterday. His 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: name Hermann, Hermann Andaiya. He was the guy who said 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: he did not regret not turning on the sirens to 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: try to alert people that there was an emergency and 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: that they ought to get out of town in Lahaina. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's get Steve's talk about that and everything else. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Hey, John, So, mister Andaia was the subject of a 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: story that came out early Wednesday morning about his lack 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: of qualifications to be the head of the Mali's Emergency 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Management Agency, and at that press offer that afternoon he 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: defended his position. 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: So the new story talks about how I didn't have 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 3: experience before taking on a job. That's not true. Before 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: taking a job, I was a member of the cabinet. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: I was deputy director of the Department of Housing, Human 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: concerns as well as the mayor's chief of staff for 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: eleven years, and so during that time I was reported 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: I oftentimes report to the emergency operations centers, and I 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: done this on numerous numerous occasions. Also during that time, 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: we went through numerous trainings as well, and so to 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: say that I am not not qualified, I think is incorrect. 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 4: In addition to that, when I applied for this. 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: Position, which is, by the way, a civil service position, 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I went through a very arduous process and I was vetted. 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: I take a civil service exam, I was interviewed by 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: seasoned emergency managers and they all in the qualified in 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: factor was selected. 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 5: So that's you re read not sounding the silence. 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: I do not And that was the statement. I think 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: that was his downfall at the end there. But did 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: you catch his somewhat among his credits and that makes 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: him qualified? What he was the chief of staff for 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: the mayor. 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 5: Oh a bureaucrat job. 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: So he was a member of the I guess the cabinet. 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: I assume it's either the state cabinet or a county cabinet. 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that government works. But he was 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: a member of Housing and Human Services he was. 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: Just another guy that moved is moved around from one 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: and he pastrator's position to another. 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he passed a civil service exam, so there you. 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Go, So there you go. He can manage an extreme emergency. 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: So I was playing that cut earlier today, and some 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: people I know in fire agencies and police agencies and 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: emergency management agencies around the country have been texting me 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: and emailing me fast in fears about their thoughts on 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: all of this. And it is pretty interesting what others 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: are saying about this, just based on that one cut 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: and maybe what they have read or not read by now. 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: But this is one common here. I got to read 57 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: somebody who's very high up in one of the premier 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: organizations in southern California, first Responder agency. I am sensing 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: the residents want to be protected accountability, competence, and performance 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: by city officials, but nobody wants to tell the emperor 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: that he's not wearing any clothes. I think the deep 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: seated cultural and traditional stuff is going on here, a 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: lot of pride. I'm trying to be sympathetic to that, 64 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: but it doesn't appear to be creating a real smooth operation. 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: If change is going to happen. It is going to 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: be as a result of lawsuits. Accountability from government agencies 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: they report to will also be a path. It'll be 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: interesting to see what grants they receive over the years 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: to properly prepare for and manage expanding incidents like this one. 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: You know that that's something interesting because right from the 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: beginning of your coverage, uh, there's been this. You've reported 72 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: on the attitude, the philosophy of people who have grown 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: up on the island, the philosophy of Aloha. 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: Right. 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: You have that woman who leads the news conferences, lecturing 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: the reporters on how to be kind and gentle with 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: the questions, because this is our demeanor here. Life is 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: easy going, it's not confrontational, it's not uncomfortable. And I 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: remember you remember that airline flight that crashed and it 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: was a it was an Asian, yes, and the co 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: pilot could see that something bad was happening. But because 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: of the his superior yeah, the the the the the 83 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: cultural respect for seniority, he never did or said anything 84 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: to correct whatever bad move the pilot was making. 85 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: For fear of shaming his superior. 86 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Right exactly, And so that that cull the power of 87 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the culture there paralyzed this guy and eventually led to, 88 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, a disaster. And I wonder if if that's 89 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: what your text friend was alluding to. Is that what 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: he was getting at, that people are afraid to confront 91 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: each other. 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, FEMA plays this delicate dance just 93 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: like any mutual aid agency coming to help a municipality, 94 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: a city, or a town, and that is they have 95 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: to be very respectful of those in charge of the 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: of said town. It doesn't matter if the population's three 97 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: hundred or three million. They have to roll in there 98 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: and say, listen, we're here to help. Let us know 99 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: what you need. And sometimes those people don't know what 100 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: they need, and so they have to be very careful 101 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: how they nudge these people, say well, do you want 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: to set up maybe some mobile command centers over here, 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: maybe you know, and they're like, ye, yeah, yeah, that's 104 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: a good idea. 105 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: And yeah, you're in a small town operation that is 106 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: rarely tested. You don't have a whole lot of experience. 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: This reminds me of the Uvaldi shooting too, where you 108 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: have a local police department calling the shots, and he 109 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: had all these big county and state agencies on the outside, 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: and they had to play along with what the local 111 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: police chief wanted to do. 112 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: Right And if you remember on that one, because that 113 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: information officer from the city of Uvaldi came out and 114 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: did the same thing there that this Macana did here. 115 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: She came out and said, just to remind you, this 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: is an informational press event only, we will not be 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: taking questions. And then as soon as one speaker's done, 118 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: she comes up and says, this is to remind you, 119 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: this is informational only. We will not be taking questions. 120 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: And you're like, really, I mean, and here's the thing 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: I know. In fact, today we just got another alert. 122 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Apparently people are they're warning the media again about trespassing. 123 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on over there in 124 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: Lehina right now, but apparently quote unquote reporters are trying 125 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: to get in. I doubt that mainstreamers are getting in there. 126 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of independent journalists out here, a lot 127 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: of Internet people, a lot of social media people around. 128 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I would run around one Associated Press story and it 129 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: says there has been intense criticism from many residents, specifically 130 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: over the lack of sirens. But I think probably the 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: whole response operation. It's it's not reporters here, it's it's 132 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: the public is really upset, and they have every right 133 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: to be. I mean, they've suffered an immense tragedy here 134 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: and they're not they're not getting answers. 135 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm did ray give you that article? I told you 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: to look at. 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: Which one? 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: Oh, the one about the They did an article on 139 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: my exchange with the. 140 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, I do have that yes the day between 141 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: the media and public officials. 142 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the only reason I bring that up is 143 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: because my news director, Chris Little, he tweeted something when 144 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: that article came out. I forwarded it to him. I said, well, 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: this is interesting. So he tweets, thanks Steve Gregory for 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: taking on and then he uses the governor's tag governor's 147 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: handle in the twitter. On the tweet and the State 148 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: of Hawaii's tweet also thanks Steve Gregor for taking on 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: the governor about his insidious remarks. The governor has a 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: lot to learn about being transparent and trying to discredit 151 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: reporters with false allegations. And that's the thing that really 152 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: bothered me. I didn't care about the personal attacks. What 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: I really really was bothered by is that he felt 154 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: like he could just exploit the sensitive culture of Hawaii 155 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden make that his defense. 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: Oh it's a shield, Yes, yeah, it's a shield. 157 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: And he used did that to try to shame you 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: and the other reporters into backing off. And I understand 159 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: why you would be angry, and any reporters would be angry. 160 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: That'd make me furious. It's like, now, don't you try 161 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: emotional manipulation. Don't use your your cultural sensitivity is a shield. 162 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what everybody's doing these days in order 163 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: to avoid, you know, some a direct glare of the spotlight. 164 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: But you know what, here's the little bit of the 165 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: hypocrisy here, and i'll play this for you after the break. 166 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: Is the chief of police here in Maui. He is 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: an interesting person because he's been a bully all week 168 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: and he's been trying his damned is to intimidate all 169 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: of us into submission. And it's been an interesting delicate 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: dance between him. But he said something just the other 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: day that I'm gonna play for you. 172 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: All right more with Steve Live from Maui. The Lahina Fire, 173 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven dead and the count continues to 174 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: go up. 175 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: Johnny Ken showed. 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: Am six. 178 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: Forty every day we've been. 179 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: This week, we've been opening with Steve Gregory and Maui 180 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: and if you haven't heard his reporting, that's a good 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: thing to look for on the podcast, because you know 182 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: they're all there. Let's go to Steve now he's got more. 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, John, you know, one of the things before the 184 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: break I wanted to share with you is the policies 185 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: and procedures for the early warning siren system on the 186 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: island of Maui. And this is something that we were 187 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: researching yesterday. And let me read to you just real quickly. 188 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: There's the County of Maui Outdoor Warning Siren page. There's 189 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: an actual page mauisirens dot com. Anyone can go read it, 190 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: and it's pretty interesting. It's just real clear and real concise. 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: The primary reason, what's an outdoor warning siren test? And 192 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: then it says every month a monthly test is done 193 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: eleven to fifteen in the morning, they go through it. 194 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: And then it says Hawaii has the largest single integrated 195 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: public safety outdoor siren warning system in the world. The 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: all hazard siren system can be used for a variety 197 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: of both natural and human caused events, including tsunamis, hurricanes, 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: dam breaches, flooding, wildfire, volcanic eruptions, terrorist threats, hazardous material incidents, 199 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: and more. And then it says what to do in 200 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: the event other reasons for the outdoor warning sign In 201 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: case of a natural disaster, a steady three minute siren 202 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: tone is the attention alert signal. When that is heard, 203 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: listen to emergency alert system broadcasts for further instructions and 204 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: the all clear announcement on your radio, television or any 205 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: local station. 206 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: So the information they were selling while they tried to 207 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: defend themselves, that was nonsense. They made it sound like 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was a tsunami only siren. 209 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: No, and it's right here, plain as day, the County 210 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: of Mali's Outdoor Warning Siren testing page. 211 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: And then part two is you turn on radio or TV, 212 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: listen to the emergency broadcast instructions, and follow accordingly. Because 213 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: they kept pushing this idea, well, everybody would to run 214 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: into the hills, straight into the fire, that's what they're 215 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: trained to do. Well, No, I don't know how much 216 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: people know but what's in the manual is to the siren, 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: turn on the radio or TV, and then follow instructions. 218 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And they wouldn't have told you to run into the fire. 219 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: But here it's an interesting thing in case of a 220 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: man made attack like they had that scare what a 221 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: little you know a couple of years ago, or they 222 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: thought it was a nuclear threat. Was immage remember that one. Yeah, 223 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: it says a wailing three minute siren tone is the 224 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: attention alert signal. Then in natural disaster, a steady three 225 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: minute siren tone is the attention alert signal. So they 226 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: even have different patterns and cadences to the siren to 227 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: alert you when it's not a tsunami. And the fact 228 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: that he didn't either know this or didn't remember it 229 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: and assumed that it was just you know, everyone's going 230 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: to think tsunami and run up to higher ground when 231 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: it says right here on the county's page that that 232 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: siren has used for a multitude of different things is 233 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: pretty pretty bad. 234 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 235 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Well, see, that's a great distinction you bring out is 236 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: do they have a plan, and if they have a plan, 237 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: did they executed properly? They had a plan which on 238 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: paper made sense, but it wasn't executed. 239 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: Right and back to the cultural sensitivities issues. So John 240 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: Pelletier is the chief of the Mali Police Department. He 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: was formerly a captain of the Las Vegas Metro Police 242 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Department and was one of the lead one of the 243 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: lead officers lead officials on the night of the Las 244 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: Vegas shooting during that country music festival in Las Vegas, 245 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: you might recall. So he does have some experience, at 246 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: least with some mass casualty events and especially fluid ones 247 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: like that. I'm not sure what the after action report 248 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: showed in terms of how police responded and reacted. I 249 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: just know that was a really major event. But here 250 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: is Chief Pelleteer. One is daily lecturer. 251 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: I would just say this, I've been here almost two 252 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: years and I consider myself a guest of the people 253 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: that I'm blessed to serve. I'm a guest and I'm 254 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: the chief of police. What MAUI doesn't trust are people 255 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: even from other islands, coming here to tell us what's 256 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: best for us. We will decide. Are people, our people 257 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: who we love and we sacrifice for. They trust us, 258 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: they love us, and we love them. 259 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about the trust. 260 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard this kind of propaganda before. Yeah, it's 261 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: it's to shut down all criticisms. What it is, I've 262 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: never heard this. They're part of America. I mean, they 263 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: act like they're their own independent state. And obviously there's 264 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the island who are angry 265 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: and are not trusting. 266 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: It's just just bs. 267 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny when I said, you know, he speaking 268 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: for the people already, I don't think he's gone quite 269 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: outside that inner sanctum that he's in, right, been in 270 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks, because the not the 271 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: group of people I've been speaking with. They paint a 272 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: completely different picture. And these are people who have been 273 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: here a hell of a lot longer than he has. 274 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, this is bullying to shut down all 275 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: the questioning, to shut down the investigation. And they're just 276 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: waiting for all the reporters to leave, you know, the 277 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: national reporters, guys like you. Eventually you're going to have 278 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to come back to the mainland. So well, they're bullying 279 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: mode until you take off from the airport. 280 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's going to be interesting because this 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: story will sort of die down a little bit it will, 282 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: but then when the first report starts to come out 283 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: or when the final search is over, there will be 284 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: spikes in coverage here, just like it was a Katrina 285 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: and other major events, you'll get. It'll cycle back in eventually, 286 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: and then when there's a you know, a major decision 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: based on the cause and origin of the fires and 288 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: all that, then it'll be back in the news again. 289 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: I do want to update you real quick before we 290 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: go that it is still fatalities, the official fatalities at 291 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven. They have searched fifty eight percent 292 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: of the area as of last night. That's obviously more 293 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: than half. And they have identified one more person who 294 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: was or seventy one years old, rather Donna, so it's 295 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: one female so far, three males, all four from Lahina, 296 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: and it looks as though at least two of them 297 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: were in a senior center when they were killed. So 298 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: that's the latest. Looks like they still have forty cadaver 299 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: dogs on site and they're working them in shifts trying 300 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: to get as much of this area covered as possible, 301 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: and they're still gearing up for President Biden's visit on Monday. 302 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Well, you've done great work this week Steve, Thanks, thanks 303 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: very much. I know you've been working long hours, very hard. 304 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Are you landing in the hurricane by chance this weekend? 305 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm missing it because I get in early 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. I'm on a red eye tonight, so I 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: have to get in, and then I got a head 308 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: east on Monday, so I think I'm out of it altogether, 309 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: all right, Steve Gregory and now headed back to LA 310 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: and coming up right after Deborah's news, the UH I 311 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: will do some. 312 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Had another announcement. He's increasing CHP support to help Los 313 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: Angeles go after the smash and grab robbery rings. He 314 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: authorized the CHP to stop the drug flow in San Francisco. 315 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: At least there was a big announcement. I don't know 316 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: if anything actually came to that. While he's pulling the 317 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: same cheap headline stunt here, we're gonna have Republican Assemblymen 318 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Vince Fong on. He thinks it's all window dressing. That's next. 319 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 320 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 6: Am six forty. 321 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four, and then 322 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: after four o'clock you go to the iHeart app for 323 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand. That's the podcast. Later on 324 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: in the show, we've got two rounds of the Moistline 325 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: and hacking a dumpster all coming up in the three 326 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. We got a lot to go on here, 327 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: and in a few minutes we're going to talk about 328 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: the first arrest in the Glendale smash and grab that 329 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: happened at Rick Caruso's Americana at Brand Shopping Center. This 330 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: happened late yesterday afternoon, and I've got some details on that, 331 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: and also a curious wanted photo for another suspect in 332 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: the case. Let's get Vince Fong on. He's the Republican assemblyman, 333 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: and Newsom did one of his cheap headline moves. He 334 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: and Bass they do the same thing. It's either announcing 335 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: a task force that you never hear from again, or 336 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: a nuisance case. He's announcing increased CHP involvement to help 337 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles with the smashing grabs. 338 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 5: Now. 339 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: He announced CHP involvement some months ago to help San 340 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: Francisco try to curb the open air drug markets and 341 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: drug sales going on. 342 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 5: I never heard what became of that. Vince, how are you? 343 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 7: I'm hanging in there, how are you did anything. 344 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: Come up to CHP going to San Francisco? Did they go? 345 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 5: Has it had an effect? 346 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: They did? 347 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 7: I mean they've confiscated it was a report they've they 348 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 7: confiscated two point one million sentinel pills in one operation. 349 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 7: But I mean this is again the consequences of these 350 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 7: policies coming from Sacramento. The governor is dealing with all 351 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 7: the symptoms. He's not focusing on the cure. You know, 352 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 7: we need to increase penalties in criminal behavior Change Prop 353 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 7: Forty seven give prosecutors more tools to go after criminals. 354 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because two million sentinel pills will flow in 355 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: very quickly to replace the ones that the CHP grabbed. 356 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: It's about getting the people off the streets who are 357 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: distributing it. So are you aware of any progress with 358 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: that About busting up the drug rings? 359 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: No, there's nothing about going I mean prosecuting these criminals. 360 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 7: I mean, this is the issue. I mean, certainly, more 361 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: police presence is one component the California Higher Patrol, local 362 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 7: law enforcement. They're doing tremendous work, but they're being overwhelmed. 363 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 7: You look at the crime statistics right now. Violent crime 364 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 7: is up, property crime is up, Retail theft is up, cargo, 365 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 7: theft is up, the public is set up, and I 366 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 7: think they're going to send a message to all of 367 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 7: us at the ballot box. But you know, we have 368 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 7: to change the laws and we need to increase penalties 369 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 7: and have some accountability. 370 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: So what what do you think is the CHP coming 371 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles going to change things meaningfully? Because I 372 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: don't even if they capture suspects, nobody will say what 373 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: happened to the suspects. Did they get the prosecuted, did 374 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: they get imprisoned? 375 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 5: Are they still there? 376 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: Is it the same guys who were committing the crimes 377 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: this past week or is this a whole new crew. 378 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 7: Well, the CHP is going to have some effect. I mean, 379 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 7: their presence is it's going to be warranted and valued. 380 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 7: But I mean, you look at what happened yesterday. The 381 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 7: Glendale Police Department arrested a suspect in connection with all 382 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 7: these mass smash and grabs in these clothing stores, and 383 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 7: hours later he was released under La County's zero bail policy. 384 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 7: And you, ah, you think about what's happening in Sacramento. 385 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: You have progressive liberal politicians that want to impose zero 386 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 7: bail for the entire state of California. I mean, this 387 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 7: is atrocious, but. 388 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 5: That was terrifying. 389 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: What happened at that shopping center, the same thing that 390 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: happened in the Kenoga Park. 391 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 5: This is terrifying. 392 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: So these guys get arrested, they get the headline, but 393 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: good luck finding out that they've been released on zero bail. 394 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 7: Are telling line and these and the crime numbers are 395 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 7: under reported. You talk to law enforcement, you talked to prosecutors. 396 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 7: I mean, these videos are are horrific, but they're the 397 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 7: tip of the iceberg. I mean I get countless calls 398 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 7: and you probably do too, from your listeners and from 399 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 7: my constituents. I mean, they're at the they're at Vaughan's, 400 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 7: at the grocery store, they're at the at the at 401 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 7: the A store, and they watched criminals walk out of 402 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 7: the store. And nothing is done. 403 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: And a lot of stuff's not reported. But you know, 404 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: when when I see uh, I'm going to get int 405 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: an LA Times editorial coming up at two o'clock and 406 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: the same tired statements about crime going down or there's 407 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: no evidence and blah blah blah blah blah. Most of 408 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the stuff is not being reported. 409 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: What's the point, well, the evidence is showing a massive increase. 410 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 7: The Attorney General released the horrific crime statistics on the 411 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 7: Friday on July fourth week leading into July fourth weekend. 412 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: You know what happens when you got bad news, you 413 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 7: release it on a late Friday news dump. 414 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 415 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 7: Right, But these criminals are are coming from early release. 416 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 7: They are exploiting the loops and the weakness that comes 417 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 7: from Prop. Forty seven. Prosecutors are overwhelmed. Of course, in 418 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 7: LA you have a prosecutor that won't even prosecute. Yeah, 419 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 7: we have to change. 420 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Do you know George Gascon has ten thousand cases that 421 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: he has not prosecuted, ten thousand. I can't even that 422 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: completely bottles my mind. 423 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 7: That is mind boggling. And you know, we're going into 424 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 7: our last three weeks of obsession of our legislature and 425 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 7: we are going to review, you know, thousands of bills 426 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: before the deadline, and there are numerous bills that are 427 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 7: soft on crime, bills that reduced sentences, that removed enhancements, 428 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 7: that allow inmates to be eligible for parole that probably 429 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 7: don't deserve it. 430 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: They really don't, they really don't care this this crowd 431 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: and Sacramento doesn't care. 432 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 7: How much public is. The public can send a message. 433 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 7: I mean they need to call the governor, they need 434 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 7: to call their legislators. They need to demand changes to Prop. 435 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 7: Forty seven. They need to pose zero bail, they need 436 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 7: to oppose early release. I mean, we need to go 437 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 7: in a completely different direction. And the thing is that 438 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 7: all of this is solvable. I mean the crime that 439 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 7: putting more accountability in place in our legal system. It 440 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 7: will work. We just have to We have to have 441 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 7: the political will to do it. 442 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: We didn't have this a few years ago. It didn't exist. 443 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 444 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: No, we don't have to. 445 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: It's directly connected to all the laws that were destroyed 446 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: by this crowd. 447 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 7: The progressives have systematically removed penalties and consequences. And these 448 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 7: are the consequences. These are the real world consequences of 449 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 7: what's happening from Sacramento. 450 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 5: All right, Vince, thanks for coming on. 451 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. 452 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: All right, I keep fighting Republican Assembly in Vince fonn. 453 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 5: Yeah. 454 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: What I want to talk about next is the is 455 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: the guy that they grabbed in in Glendale who's been 456 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: released on zero bail. Now, if you could sit there 457 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: and you've seen the video of the smash and grab 458 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: mob at eve So Lauran at the Americana. And then 459 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: know that one of the guys is back on the loose. 460 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: What do you think he's doing with his day? 461 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: Huh? 462 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: And then there's a there's a wanted photo the Glendelle 463 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Police departments looking for another suspect, and I've got to 464 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: describe it to you after two o'clock. One of these 465 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: atrocious editorials, the by the Weasels at the El Segundo 466 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: Times just just insane. I don't know who they influence 467 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: or if they influence a soul anymore, but man, are 468 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: are they dangerous? If there's anybody who sees that and goes, yeah, yeah, 469 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: they're right, they're right if anybody has their warped view 470 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: of how the world should be reinforced by these El 471 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: Segundo Times editorial writers. And they never put their names 472 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: on the editorial. It's just the editorial board because they're cowards. 473 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to attack there 474 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: because usually this is written by a person and maybe 475 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: it's circulated to some of the other board members. But 476 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I want to see names attached to this because this 477 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: is atrocious. What they're what they're promoting. We'll get to 478 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: that coming up. Johnny KNKFI. 479 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 480 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 481 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you more about that Glendale suspect that's 482 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: been arrested in the smash and grab at Eve Solaran 483 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: at the Americana in just a few minutes. And then 484 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: that El Segundo Times atrocious editorial the uh the cow 485 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: droppings that they excreted about smash and grab robberies. But 486 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: first this just came across. We had Steve Gregory on 487 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: earlier in the hour, and just a few minutes after 488 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: we were done talking with him. The Daily Mail has 489 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: a reporter named Ruth Styles and Leahina, and she's got 490 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: an exclusive story here that the Mali wildfires, the death 491 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: toll may be as high as four hundred and eighty. 492 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: The Hawaiian morgue workers have run out of body bags 493 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: and survivors have to recover the charred remains of their 494 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: loved ones. I guess on their own. Locals are doing 495 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: their own search and recovery efforts because the officials are 496 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: so slow. According to the Daily Mail, there's a woman 497 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: named Alison Medina, twenty four. She's a Mali resident and 498 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: a volunteer. She says authorities are underplaying the death toll. 499 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: I know they are at least four hundred and eighty 500 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: dead here in Mali, and I don't understand why they're 501 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: not saying that. 502 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 5: Apparently the uh. 503 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: See. 504 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm very suspicious because the official number is one hundred 505 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: and eleven, and I think yesterday it was about one 506 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: hundred and six, and the day before that was one 507 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: hundred and it was ninety nine. It is so slow, 508 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: the death toll number. 509 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: Now. 510 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I understand some of the bodies have been reduced to ashes, 511 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: but I have a feeling that people on the ground 512 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: in Leahina, the residents, the survivors, know one thing, and 513 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: that these officials are promoting a different set of facts. 514 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: The stuff that Steve has been telling us all week 515 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: about how squarely and bullying, how angry the Hawaiian officials 516 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: have been makes me smell a rat. You know, we've 517 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: all been doing this long enough, and we have none 518 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: of us have any trust in anything a government official 519 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: says at any level. All right, clearly they failed badly. 520 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: I know you can't plan for everything, and bad things 521 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: are going to happen in life, and there's going to 522 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: be natural disasters. But when you have the emergency Services 523 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: chief telling the media yesterday that he does not regret, 524 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't regret not turning on the sirens, and then 525 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: they were claiming that these were tsunami sirens and so 526 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: the public would be confused and they go in the 527 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: wrong direction. Well, Steve opened the city manual and found 528 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: out that those are all purpose sirens, and they have 529 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: different sirens for different situations or a different rhythm of 530 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: the siren, and that people are supposed to be trained 531 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: to know that when you hear the siren, you turn 532 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: on the radio or television and you listen to the 533 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: emergency broadcast instructions and then act accordingly. So what the 534 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: Emergency Services director and the governor and anybody else speaking 535 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: publicly have been trying to sell is a load of nonsense. 536 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Think they have a lot of guilt and a lot 537 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: of responsibility, and they're very angry and defensive. And I'm 538 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: telling you, whenever I see a public official try to 539 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: shut down the media or shut down the public with 540 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: charges of well you're not being sensitive cultural insensitivity, then 541 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: I know you've got a big story here that they're 542 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: covering up. That is the last refuge of an incompetent 543 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: boot to start waiving the cultural sensitivity flag. 544 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 5: You'll hear that. 545 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Then you know there's an ugly story there, and we'll 546 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: see what this. 547 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 5: How this plays out. 548 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: But there are some reporters on top of this and 549 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: not putting up with the nonsense out of the government. 550 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: All right, more we come back, we'll get into the 551 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: the suspect that they grab. They got one whole suspect 552 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: in the smash and grab robbery in Glendale. And then, 553 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, you know it, if the else gunder 554 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: times wasn't so bad, this would this should be comical. 555 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: But every one in a while they put out an 556 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: atrocity on their editorial page that has to be publicized. 557 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: John and Ken Deborah Mark has the news live in 558 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. 559 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 560 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 561 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 562 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.