1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Eight men, all migrants, have been arrested for allegedly looting 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and burglarizing flood ravage victims in eastern Tennessee. All eight men, 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: all migrants, were arrested for looting and burglarizing victims. The 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: suspects were arrested in Washington County, Tennessee, on September the 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, on suspension of burglary and or aggravated burglary. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: All of the individuals, Yes, looks like they are illegal 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: immigrants who are seeing an opportunity here to take from 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: those that are suffering. And those are the people that 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have let into this country. 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: And I go back to what I said earlier. They 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: don't care if you are in a state that won't 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: vote for them, or they believe is not going to 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: vote for them, then screw you. 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, yeah we sure did. We 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: brought in. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: A whole bunch, a whole bunch of illegal immigrants, and yeah, 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: they're going to steal from you when they have an. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: Opportunity to do it. To fall out from something that JD. 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Vance said that the left is really upset about. And 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: he said, and they were trying to turn into like, oh, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: you're a racist because he said, well, you let twenty 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: million American or legal immigrants come into America, what the 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: hell do you think was going to happen? 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: We're going to have higher home prices. 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: And they immediately were like, that's not true, that's not true. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: Right, it is true. We know it's true. 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: Now. 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: Tim Waltz is out there saying in these one on 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: one interviews, Oh, we're going to make housing more affordable 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: again without a plan, but he keeps saying it over 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and over again. 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Apparently everybody believes him. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: We're here in Asheville. This is one area of the 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: state where we've seen housing prices skyrocket. Here, there's very 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: little affordable housing. It's the story you see time and again. 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: How do you think your plan can help? 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, the Vice President's plan starts by 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: that this shortage of housing units in general is three 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: million new unit and she understands this is making sure 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: that we're not seeing banks by these things up keep 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: money inventory, and then that down payment assistance for me, 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 5: I use the GI bill. I think she's talking about 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 5: making sure you tax credits, that we're able to make 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: sure people have the money to go forward. 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: I love this. 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: So they say, well, we just seed a bunch more houses, 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you money to do it, right. 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: And so then they came out with this plan. They're like, 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna give you like twenty five 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Kama Harrison a big, big one on one 51 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: exclusive with MSNBC with this type of propaganda, and she said, well, 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna housing more affordable, right, and we're gonna we're 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna make sure they're not price gouging you. 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: And they blame everybody. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: They blame the boogeyman, the evil big banks, the private investors, right. 56 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: And so then they. 57 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Come out they're like, God, we're gonna give you money 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: for houses, right, Like we're gonna we're gonna give you 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of cash. We're gonna give you twenty five 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: thousand highest bidder if that's what you want, We're gonna 61 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna give you, you know, twenty five 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: thousand and and and that's gonna, you know, fix your problem. Well, 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: every economist came out like, if you give a twenty 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars check first time home buyers, that's going 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: to happen. The price of every home in America is 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: just going to go up. Like everybody knows this, it's 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: basic economics. And you have this idea now that oh, well, 68 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: we're just gonna, you know, randomly build a bunch of 69 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: houses that the government's going to subsidize, and that's somehow 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: going to fix the problem. Harris is going to kill housing, 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: is what the experts have said. They're going to kill housing. 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Now. 73 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Not only are they going to kill it with they're planned, 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: but they're killing the American dream of owning a house 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: because of all the illegal immigrants they've led into this country. 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: And during the debate, they're like, well, that's not true. 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: And J. D. 78 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Vance wrote back pretty quickly right the to the biased 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: people he's talking to. He was like, hold on a second, Well, 80 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: we'll put it up online. We'll stick the facts out there. 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: If you think that illegal immigrants aren't rising the prices 82 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: of home and rent, you're insane. And guess what the 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: fact show you guessed it. That's exactly what's happening, all right. 84 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: So before I get back to the busted fact check 85 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: on the lie that was told during the debate that 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants are not causing the prices of housing and 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: rent to go up. Let's just also hammer down on 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: this twenty five thousand dollars that she just randomly says 89 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: is like magic money that she's going to give out 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: to everybody that wants to buy a house. 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: It's never going to happen. 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: Number one, and number two, it is not going to 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: lower the price of housing or make housing more affordable, 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: which is what she's claiming. It's just going to make 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the price of every house cup twenty five grand. Because 96 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: everybody knows, well, you got the twenty five grand. The 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: government just gave it to you, which means the taxpayers 98 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: we are subsidizing everybody else's house. 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 7: Listen, I want to talk about Harris's Kamala Harris's economic plan. 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 7: You've got a tweet out there saying that Harris is 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 7: either financially illiterate, incompetent, or she believes her voters are. 102 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: You really don't like her plan? Do your grant no, 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 7: because I know it won't work. 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 6: Okay, she's going to to kill housing, Okay, Like I 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 6: don't know why she's I guess I understand why she's 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 6: not giving people like you a moment to ask her 107 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 6: a question, why would you want to build or three 108 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 6: million homes when you know your four point two million 109 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 6: home shark? Why would you want to give a twenty 110 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 6: five thousand dollars first time tax credit or buyer's credit 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: when you know that's going to inflate housing? Okay, martgage 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: applications had a spike this weekend, we're still lower than 113 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 6: two thousand, two thousand and eight twenty ten, literally the 114 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 6: lowest levels in twenty four years of martgage applications. The 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 6: housing market is getting slaughtered and nobody's talking about it. 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 6: And if she thinks twenty five thousand dollars is going 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 6: to somehow, you know, relieve the system, she's crazy. 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 8: So she's either lying to. 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 6: The public or worse, she doesn't know what she's talking about, 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 6: or her her team doesn't. 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 9: Now now, I know, Mark Cuban's a huge fan of hers. 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 9: Right now, he's at a pimping like every minute of every day. 123 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 9: But and Mark knows a lot about a lot of things. 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 9: But housing is not going to get fixed. Because she 125 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 9: promises to. 126 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: Build three million homes, she doesn't even know what it 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 6: would cost, how long it would take, who would build them, 128 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 6: who would get the homes. 129 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 8: And by the way, it's six percent interest. 130 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 6: You can't afford a loon anyway, because the interests alone 131 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: is two thousand dollars a month. 132 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Grant caught on the interest alone is two thousand dollars 133 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: a month. So this idea that I'm just going to 134 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: hand out twenty five k and it's going to fix 135 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: the problem, and you're going to build three million homes. Now, 136 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: in my lifetime, we've never had a conversation about building 137 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: three million homes. Like, that's never been a conversation. And 138 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: I think the real reason why we've never had that 139 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: conversation is because we've never had to deal with the 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: possibility of being three million homes too short, right, Like, 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: we've never had to have that conversation. Why are we 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: even having the conversation. It goes back to what jd 143 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: Vance said, and it's the fact that we have a 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: housing crisis in this country because we have an immigration 145 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: crisis that is skyrocke at the cost of rent and homes. 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: So called policy experts quote unquote at the libertarian Kiddo Institute, 147 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: known for its defense of open borders, are admitting now 148 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: that center jd Vance is correct when he says immigration 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: increases increases housing prices for Americans. We don't want to 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: of illegal aliens in this country, which does drive up costs. 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: Vance said it Tuesday Evening's vice president of Debate. Twenty 154 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: five million illegal aliens are competing with Americans for houses 155 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: for homes, and it's one of the most significant drivers 156 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: of home prices in the country. It's why we have 157 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: massive increases in home prices and have happened right alongside 158 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamla Harris's leadership. Also, 159 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: you want to know where home prices of skyrocket the 160 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: most and heavily populated areas where illegal immigrants are living. Yes, 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: that is the truth. So when JD. Vance said what 162 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: he said, he wasn't lying. He was speaking truth to power, 163 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: which is exactly why they hated what he said. 164 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 8: Tim just said something that I agree with. 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 10: We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, 166 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 10: but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 10: in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 10: drive up cost him twenty five million Illegal aliens competing 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 10: with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 10: significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why 171 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 10: we have massive increases in home prices that have happened 172 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 10: right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala 173 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 10: Harris's leadership. Now, Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas. Now, 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 10: some of those ideas actually think are halfway decent, and 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 10: some of them I disagree with. But the most important 176 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 10: thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a 177 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 10: newcomer to politics. 178 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 8: She is the sitting vice president. 179 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 10: Is she wants to enact all of these policies to 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 10: make housing more affordable. I invite her to use the 181 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 10: office that the American people already gave her, not sit 182 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 10: around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the 183 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 10: American dream of home ownership completely unaffordable. 184 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I think this moment was 185 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: so effective for him is because if you were listening 186 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and you're looking at buying a house, or you're looking 187 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: to rent, or you decided not to buy a house, 188 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: is because you understood what he was saying there. 189 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: Jd Vance is correct. 190 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Immigration increases housing prices, and that's just the truth. It's 191 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: okay to admit that, but the media doesn't want to 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: talk about that. The intersection of supply and demand determines 193 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: housing prices, like all prices. 194 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: Quote. 195 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: When housing supply curves are upward sloping, increase demand from 196 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: immigrants will increase housing prices. Immigrants are people who want 197 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: to roof over their heads, after all. So when you're 198 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: going to the market to rent or buy, does the 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: market care if you're an illegal or not? The answer 200 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: is no, it doesn't matter. Bringing the discussion back to 201 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Springfield and Ohio, where Van started, housing prices have increased 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: there as more Haitian migrants have moved in. According to Redfin, 203 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: the medium sale price of a single family hold sold 204 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: there has increased from seventy eight thousand, five hundred dollars 205 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: in August of twenty nineteen to one hundred and fifty 206 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: eight thousand in August of twenty twenty four. That is 207 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: a one hundred and one percent increase in nominal terms. 208 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: By the way, the nationwide increase was forty six percent 209 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: in nominal terms during the same period, and what happened 210 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: during that period, a massive influx and illegal immigrants by 211 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the millions coming across the Southern border that has made 212 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: renters and first time home buyers worse off than Springfield 213 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and homeowners who are mostly native born quote that are off. 214 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: At a recent House Oversight Committee hearing, the Center for 215 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Immigration Studies director point increase in the recent immigrant share 216 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: of a metro area's population is associated with a twelve 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: percent increase in the average US born household rent relative 218 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: to their income. What did they note, The high levels 219 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: of immigration particularly increase rents. Adding this, very large numbers 220 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: of people added to the country are significantly impacting housing 221 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: prices by driving up demand for rental properties. The Census 222 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Bureau reports of the increase in rents in twenty twenty 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: three was by far the largest and the past decade. 224 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: And what happened during that period of time we had 225 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: the largest increase of immigrants, illegal immigrants coming across the 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: southern border. And the fact that the media even tried 227 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: to argue with him over this is insane. Governor Well, 228 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: it's had some problems last night, including the fact he 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: had to admit that Minnesota's taxes are among the highest 230 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: in the country. He also had to admit that he 231 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: raised taxes on as most governors were cunning them, and 232 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota is the most expensive state to start a business. 233 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: A new study has found this was not good. There 234 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: was also the corporate greed. Minnesota has a nine point 235 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: eight percent corporate income tax, is the highest in the nation, 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and Minnesota's in the top ten for marginal state individual 237 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: income tax rates. 238 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,359 Speaker 2: All of these things. 239 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Now a problem for Tim Walls, who went out there 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: a guy who was trying to act like he is well, 241 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, small town, rural guy, and his passwords have 242 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: well come back to haunt him. What did he have 243 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: to say about refugees, Well, listen to this. 244 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 11: We have more refugees per capita than any other state. 245 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 11: That's not just morally a good thing, it's our economic 246 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 11: and cultural future. 247 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 8: This beautiful diverse se See Autumn Worthington. 248 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 11: When I'm there, you see fifty languages spoken in the school. 249 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Fifty languages spoken to school. That is what Tim Waltz 250 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: has decided to import to Minnesota. Now he's trying to 251 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: act like we want to be tough on the border 252 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: and have laws that protect you, right, that protect you 253 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: from all the chaos and anarchy that is going on. Well, 254 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: it didn't work out very well for him because he 255 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: was trying to change his record. What I just played 256 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: for you is when he was running for governor, he 257 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: was proud of having a massive, massive, massive, massive amount 258 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants in his state. Yeah, it is very 259 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: clear that was not what they were wanting him to 260 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: be on stage, and guess what, it was not a 261 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: good night for him. 262 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: The media trying to spin it, however. 263 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Brazinski, Joe Scarborough's woman on MSNBS, she tried to spend 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: it saying this. 265 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 12: I agree with you, Elise. I was surprised by that moment. 266 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 12: I was surprised by a number of moments like that, 267 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 12: but we'll take that one as the example. By the way, 268 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 12: I don't think it matters how late the great moment 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 12: was because unfortunately we TV people were not that important anymore. 270 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 12: People take nuggets online on social media. 271 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: It's the truth. 272 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 12: I mean, it's going to be all about the clips 273 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 12: and about what's put out here and there, and so 274 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 12: he can still win the day, and it's showing. The 275 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 12: reaction is not bad. 276 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: To Tim Waltz. 277 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 12: I will say, though, to that Teneman Square answer. I 278 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 12: was waiting for what are you talking about? I misspoke, 279 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 12: and I'm sorry about that. This guy lies every day 280 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 12: about legal migrants. He dehumanizes legal migrants. The governor of 281 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 12: Ohio is begging for jd. Vance and Donald Trump to 282 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 12: stop doing this to our community, and they continue lies 283 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 12: about January sixth. He's lying about the twenty twenty election. 284 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 12: I misspoke twenty three years ago. You can talk about 285 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 12: what he said six hours ago. These guys lie for 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 12: a living. 287 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: That would have been my answer, by the way, when 288 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: they're having to carry water for you that way and say, oh, 289 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I would have given a different answer. 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: Tim Waltz had a bad moment in the debate. 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: He was asked about his lie that he was at 292 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Tim and Square and that he was there when everything 293 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: was going on, and well, he made that up. It 294 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: was a lie. It never happened. It just never happened. 295 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: And so what he said was as well, I misspoke. 296 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: It was one of the most awkward moments of the 297 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: debate because he was asked and he had this fake 298 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: answer and it didn't work. 299 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Listen to the answer. 300 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 13: We want to ask you about your leadership qualities, Governor Walls, 301 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 13: you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly 302 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 13: Tenemen Square protests in the spring of nineteen eighty nine. 303 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 13: But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting 304 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 13: that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of 305 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 13: that year. Can you explain that discrepancy well, and to the. 306 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 11: Folks out there, it didn't get at the top of this. 307 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 8: Look. 308 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 11: I grew up in small, rural Nebraska town of four 309 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 11: hundred town that you rode your bike with your buddies 310 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 11: till the street lights come on, and I'm proud of 311 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 11: that service. I joined the National Guard at seventeen, worked 312 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 11: on family farms, and then I use the GI bill 313 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 11: to become a teacher. Passionate about it a young teacher. 314 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 11: My first year out, I got the opportunity in the 315 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 11: summer of eighty nine to travel to China thirty five 316 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 11: years ago. Be able to do that, I came back 317 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 11: home and then started a program to take young people there. 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 11: We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, 319 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 11: we would take dancers, and we would go back and 320 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 11: forth to China. The issue for that was was to 321 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 11: try and learn. Now, look, my community knows who I am. 322 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 11: They saw where I was at they look. I will 323 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 11: be the first to tell you I have poured my 324 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 11: heart into my community. I've tried to do the best 325 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 11: I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm a 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 11: knucklehead at times. But it's always about that those same 327 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 11: people elected me to Congress for twelve years, and in 328 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 11: Congress I was one of the most bipartisan people, working 329 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 11: on things like farm bills that we got done, working 330 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 11: on veterans benefits, and then the people of Minnesota were 331 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 11: able to elect me to governor twice. So look, my 332 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 11: commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that 333 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 11: I'm there for the people, to make sure that I 334 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 11: get this right. 335 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 8: I will say more than anything. 336 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 11: Many times, I will talk a lot, I will get 337 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 11: caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact 338 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 11: it made, the difference it made in my life. I 339 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 11: learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques of this. 340 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 11: I would make the case that Donald Trump should have 341 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 11: come on one of those trips with US. I guarantee 342 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 11: you he wouldn't be praising Shijing ping about COVID, and 343 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 11: I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that 344 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 11: he ends up losing. So this is about trying to 345 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 11: understand the world. It's about trying to do the best 346 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 11: you can for your community. And then it's putting yourself 347 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 11: out there and letting your folks understand what it is 348 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 11: my commitment. Whether it be through teaching, which I was good, 349 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 11: or whether it was being a good soldier or was 350 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 11: being a good member of Congress. Those are the things 351 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 11: that I think are the values that people care about. 352 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 13: Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was 353 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 13: can you explain Thereancy? 354 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 11: All I said on this was is I got there 355 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 11: that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just 356 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 11: that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong 357 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 11: and China during the democracy protests went in and from 358 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 11: that I learned a lot of what needed to be 359 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 11: in governance. 360 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 13: Thank you, Governor. Senator Vance in twenty. 361 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the most painful moments. 362 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: As a guy's like, hey, I talk a lot. Translation, 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Hey I lie a lot, right Like, He's like, look, 364 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: I lie a lot. Maybe they know I have a 365 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: good like I have a good you know spirit, while 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm lying a lot about being in tim Square when 367 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: the actual you know, protests and the killing was going on. 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: I know I wasn't there for like another five months, 369 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: but I was there and it was somewhat going on, 370 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: and I just, you know, you know, I sometimes I'm 371 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: just goofy and I just talk a lot and you 372 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: could hear it on MSNBC. And that's why I played 373 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: you that clip first where she's like, if I had 374 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: that question, I would have just said I'm really sorry. 375 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I would have just apologized, right like, I would have 376 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: just said, hey, it was a mistake. It was a mistake, 377 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: it was and moved on. No, you can't do that 378 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: if you won't, and why. 379 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: Do you have to? The media is going to carry 380 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: water for you. But it was a moment that tells 381 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: you a lot about him as a person. I think. 382 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I think it tells you an awful lot about him 383 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: as a person, and it tells you that he's willing 384 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: to lie to you about anything to build himself up. 385 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I was in Deman Square when it was all going down. 386 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: Really you were, well, I wasn't, but I was in. 387 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's no different than stolen valor him 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: lying about his rank, right, I mean, let's just be honest. 389 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: It's no different than that. 390 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it. 391 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Is no different, no different than that. 392 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: At least Jordan on MSNBC saying something about jd Vance 393 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: never thought I'd heard here on MSNBC listen. 394 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 8: I was disappointed. 395 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 14: I felt like the reasons that Kamala Harris chose Governor 396 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 14: Walls didn't really come out last night. 397 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 8: The Governor Walls, who. 398 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 14: Was joking, who was free flowing in interviews, who was 399 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 14: kind of you know that guy in your hometown who's 400 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 14: a local leader and he's a lot of fun, but 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 14: he can be serious. I just saw someone trying to 402 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 14: be who he wasn't, and it allowed jd Vance to 403 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 14: just skate through. It was disappointing too that Governor Walls 404 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 14: just didn't have a better answer for why he had 405 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 14: said previously that he was in Tianaman Square when he wasn't, 406 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 14: you know something easily he could have easily said I misspoke, 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 14: I'm sorry, But instead he you know, almost made it worse. 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: He almost made it worse. Now that is a liberal 409 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. So they can spend it all they want 410 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: they I mean, they can spin it all they want, 411 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: but the truth is, I don't think Tim Waltz helped 412 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the ticket last night, and I do believe that jd 413 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Vance helped Donald Trump last night. 414 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: Even on MSNBC. 415 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: There was another part of the conversation where Lemire had 416 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: this to say about jd Vance's performance. 417 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, Advance definitely put forward his best version of himself 418 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 15: yesterday and frankly aided by Governor Wallas, who the two 419 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 15: men were so civil that Walls almost normalized Vance. 420 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: He never used the word weird. 421 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 15: That was that Tim Wallas is on the ticket because 422 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 15: he kept talking about how jd Vance and Donald Trump 423 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 15: and Republicans are weird, and he never used that last night. 424 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 15: To Donnie's point about maybe Trump's mixed feelings about the debate, 425 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 15: though he prayed Advance's appearance, he also at one point 426 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 15: mid debate started tweeting about Pete Rose started to be 427 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 15: in the Hall of Fame, So perhaps his own attention 428 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 15: was sort of lost, But at least I was. 429 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 8: Also struck that. But the Governor Walls didn't. 430 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 15: He sort of took a pass on some what could 431 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 15: have been some pretty devastating attacks. He didn't mention the 432 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 15: weird issue. He never brought up childless cat lays just 433 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 15: never came up. He didn't talk about Ukraine and Ukraine 434 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 15: where Advance has made clear he has no interest in 435 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 15: supporting Kiev. He only brought up Project twenty twenty five once, 436 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 15: and that's an issue that's been so effective for Democrats. 437 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 15: That said that final minute in January sixth, about January 438 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 15: sixth was Walls's best moment. And the Harris campaign has 439 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 15: already cut an ad. 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: They cut an ad because at the end he started 441 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: attacking Donald Trump on January the sixth, and they said 442 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: it was the best moment. There's something like, well it 443 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: was late in the night. Look, they already cut an ad. 444 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: They're going to turn it into an ad. I think 445 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that's very clear because they believe that's going to work 446 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: with Democratic voters, maybe inspired Democratic voters. 447 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that Tim Waltz last night did 448 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: not win the debate. 449 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Even Donnie dorschh on MSNBC and I play you MSNBC 450 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: eclips because I want you to understand there if they're 451 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: downplaying it or trying to cover for Waltz, you know, 452 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: it was that bad of a night. And Donnie said 453 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: this about JD Vance. 454 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: Listen, simple Governor Waltz turned to JD. Van said he 455 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: lose the twenty twenty election, as sixty three courts decided. 456 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: As everyone around Donald Trump knows and has said since 457 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: that he lost. As Donald Trump has slipped several times 458 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: and said he lost. Couldn't answer the question. So for 459 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: as smooth as JD. Vans was, for as fluent as 460 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: he sounded on policy, we'll get into some of the 461 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: contradictions on the Affordable Care Act, claiming that Donald Trump 462 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: tried to save it when in fact the exact opposite 463 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: is what happened, his own record, misrepresenting his own record JD. 464 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: Vans on the question of abortion. There's a whole lot 465 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: to comb through. He was good last night. That moment 466 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: that crystallizes the whole thing. You can't even say that 467 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: your running mate lost eighty eight minutes. 468 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 8: He was good. I mean, he was too slick maybe. 469 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: But he was. 470 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 16: He certainly was not the kind of despicable character that 471 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 16: we had kind of seen clips of. 472 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 8: I thought it was a drawing up until that point, 473 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 8: and I think that that. 474 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Did Did you did you hear that he wasn't the 475 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: despicable character that we had seen the clips of translation 476 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: that we the media have tried to turn him into, 477 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: like I think they're mad because, in their opinion, they're like, dude, 478 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: we got this guy to the point where he was weird, right, 479 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: We are the ones that said. 480 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: He's weird, he's weird, he's weird. 481 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: And we and we and we got him to a 482 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: point where everyone believed that he was weird, and then 483 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't weird. So that kind of hurt us, Right, 484 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: he's not weird. We thought he was weird, but he's 485 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: really not weird. And we had designed him as being weird, 486 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: but he's really not weird. That's that's what he was 487 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: saying there like that, That's that's the whole that's the 488 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: whole ballgame. Well, he's just weird. It didn't work anymore. 489 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: It did not work, and it backfired. And so that's 490 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: why you heard Downy there saying, well, okay, maybe you 491 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: had a better night than we thought. And and and 492 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: then he goes back into attacking Donald Trump was disqualifying. 493 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 16: I think that's disqualifying in the election if you can't 494 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 16: say that. I mean, I think that that's the issue 495 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 16: that whenever I get into debates with anybody, I go, well, 496 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 16: put democracy dumb kind of on the docket. 497 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 10: Uh. 498 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 8: I want to go back to Kimmel's joke at the beginning. 499 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 16: That it was born, and I was thinking the whole time, 500 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 16: this is going to be a referendum on what people 501 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 16: want going forward. I think the big theme of this 502 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 16: thing was that it was very congenial and it was 503 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 16: not a blood sport. 504 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 8: It was not UFC. It was more like boxing. 505 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 16: And is the American public Your intuition says, well, the 506 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 16: America public is ready for that. 507 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 8: They want that. 508 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: But then I kind of said to myself. 509 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 16: Is there's this sick, twisted thing that people are addicted 510 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 16: to the sick entertainment value of Donald Trump, and that 511 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 16: they were kind of disappointed. I was enjoying it, but 512 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 16: they're just, well, no, that's no fun. 513 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 8: Are we gonna go back to that? Now? 514 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 16: My better angels in me say no, people are ready 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 16: for that. 516 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 8: But it's an interesting question. 517 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 16: Final thought, going back to what Joe said this morning 518 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 16: at mar A Lago, What's going on is that people 519 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 16: are going up as they're getting the Danish in there 520 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 16: and their buncake at Narlogi, They're going up to Donald 521 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 16: and saying, boy, Vance was great last night. 522 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 8: Wasn't He Wasn't Vance great? You know, and that's gonna 523 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 8: bother him. 524 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 16: That's gonna really bother them, that he was better than 525 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 16: Donald Trump, that he could litigate the case better than 526 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 16: Donald Trump and. 527 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 8: Donald Trump and you're gonna see what. He's gonna be 528 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 8: very dismissive of jd Vance in the coming weeks. 529 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 16: But Donald Trump is not happy this morning because jd 530 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 16: Van showed himself to be a superior candidate. 531 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: I love the Jedi mind trick? Did I go? He's 532 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: gonna hate jd Vance? 533 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because five minutes before that, they're 534 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: saying that Walt's won. So which one is it? Did 535 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: Waltz win or did he not win? Like I just 536 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: got to know right which one is it? And I 537 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: think you can tell from that clip there there's no 538 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: doubt that jd Vance won. There's no doubt that Walt's underperformed. 539 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: And that's what this really boils down to. Tim Waltz 540 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: did not have a great debate. Jd Vance came in, 541 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: was likable, measured, and actually really I think kind Tim 542 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Waltz on gun control, he didn't want your kids to 543 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: be safe in schools. Apparently he says, if you want 544 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: to put school resource officers at schools. Therefore, you're going 545 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: to look like you're a fort and that's not what 546 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: he wants. Did that connect with you as a parent? 547 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Here is Waltz on gun control. 548 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 8: Governor, you have two minutes. 549 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 11: Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is 550 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 11: just your biggest nightmare. 551 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 8: Look. I got a seventeen year. 552 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 11: Old and he witnessed a shooting at a community center 553 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 11: playing volleyball. Those things don't leave you. As a member 554 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 11: of Congress, I set in my office surrounded by dozens 555 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 11: of the Sandyog parents and they would look at my 556 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 11: seven year old picture on the wall. Their seven year 557 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 11: old were dead, and they were asking us to do something, 558 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 11: and look. 559 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 8: I'm a hunter. I own firearms. 560 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 11: The vice president is we understand that the Second Amendment 561 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 11: is there, but our first responsibilities to our. 562 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 8: Kids to figure this out. 563 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 11: In Minnesota, we've enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks, 564 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 11: and we can start. 565 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 8: To get data. But here's the problem. 566 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 11: If we really want to solve this, we've got folks 567 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 11: that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence, 568 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 11: and this idea that we should. 569 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 8: Just live with it. 570 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 11: And here's what I do think that This is a 571 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 11: good start to the conversation. I one hundred percent believe 572 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 11: that Senator Vance hates it when these kids it's a 573 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 11: borent and it breaks your heart. I agree with that, 574 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 11: but that's not far enough when we know they are 575 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 11: things that work. I've spent time in Finland and seen 576 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 11: some finish schools. They don't have this happened, even though 577 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 11: they have a high gun ownership rate in the country. 578 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 11: There are reasonable things that we can do to make 579 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 11: a difference. It's not infringing on your Second Amendment and 580 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 11: the idea to have some of these weapons out there, 581 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 11: it just doesn't make any sense. Kamala Harris, as an 582 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 11: Attorney General, worked on this issue. 583 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 8: She knows that it's there. 584 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 11: No one's trying to scare monger and say we're taking 585 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 11: your guns. But I ask all of you out there, 586 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 11: do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort? 587 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 11: Is that what we have to go When we know 588 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 11: there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing 589 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 11: these types of drills. They're being kids. We owe it 590 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 11: to them to get a fix. These are things that 591 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 11: should be that difficult. You can still keep your firearms 592 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 11: and we can make a difference. 593 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 8: We have to. If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart. 594 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 10: Senator sim First of all, I didn't know that your 595 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 10: seventeen year old witness is shooting. 596 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 8: I'm sorry about that, and I appreciate it. Okay, christ 597 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 8: have mercy. It is awful when. 598 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: He says, do you want your schools to look like 599 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: a fort? 600 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 10: No? 601 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: But I want them to be as secure as one. 602 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think there should be resource officers at every 603 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: single school in this country, public or private. You know, 604 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: there's there's a difference between. It was funny when we 605 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: were looking at schools for my kids. It was the 606 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: number one question that my wife had about schools when 607 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: we were looking at schools was you know, educational quality 608 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: and friends and and just you know, different things like that. 609 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: And mine was the complete opposite of that. Mine was 610 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: I want to know about safety. That was my number 611 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: one issue. I'm not sending my kids to a school 612 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: where I feel like they are sitting duck. And this 613 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: idea like, oh we can kumbaya and just put up 614 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: a science as gun and free zone and somehow that's 615 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: going to work. 616 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see that. I don't get it. 617 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't buy it. 618 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: I want my kids in a safe school, and that 619 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: means protecting them and all this other stuff. Well, we 620 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: should look at Finland. Finland's very different. There's a lot 621 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: of reasons why it's different. I'll explain that in moment, 622 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: but to compare it that way, it's absurd. 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