1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: kind of want. 5 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 6 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Shane Baker, Marty Jerts and Justice to today last one 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: of the year, twenty twenty four. Good year. 10 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: It's been a great year. It's been a great year 11 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: on the pond. 12 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask about your game before we got 13 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: to some of the questions. We asked people out there 14 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: for questions across Instagram and Twitter x whatever you're calling it. 15 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: We got some good ones, we got some nerdy ones. 16 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's stuff I expected to get. But you 17 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: had a good summer. Can you give us kind of 18 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: a recap pilot? Where have we talked about this on 19 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: the podcast, like a highlight of the way you played 20 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: throughout the summer. 21 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those years, Shane, where it 22 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: might have been my best golf year, best year, but 23 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to show for it. Okay, it 24 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: was one of those like type of situations. I played 25 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: really good locally, I won our match, our Southwest Section 26 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: match play, but then there was just so many close calls, 27 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Like golf feels like it's like a death of a 28 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: thousand paper cuts. This was that year for me. Almost 29 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: made it into the PGA Championship, missed by like four 30 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: in a four round tournament, lost some playoff to get 31 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: through US Open locals down into your place down at 32 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: Suwaylo in Tucson. Then later in the summer, I lost 33 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: some playoff to get in the Shriners. So I'm like, 34 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I was so close. Arizona Open, I had my best 35 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: finish ever. That's a pretty big state Open, sponsored by 36 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Paying down at Papago. So we're playing the new tees. 37 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: It was playing like seventy six hundred yard par seventy. 38 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, the part threes are short, getting like hybrid three 39 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: wood on everyone. 40 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Getting hybrid three wood. There's a number fourteen. There's like 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty yard par four now, so you're 42 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: like roasting a four iron in there if you crush 43 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: your drive. But I was tied for the lead with 44 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: nine holes to play, ended up finishing fourth. So that 45 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: was my highest finish ever in Arizona Open. A couple 46 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: battling some young ping guys Michael Figels on the Corn 47 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Ferry Tour, Nico Galletti DP World Tour Player. We're in 48 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: the field, so it's fun to kind of be battling 49 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: against them. So I had a great summer, like, played 50 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: really good, finished second on our Southwest Section points list. 51 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: As you look towards twenty five, I know you're a 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: guy that I know in the like the winter time, 53 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: you will kind of get away from it, which is 54 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: funny to live in Arizona and not play a little 55 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: golf in the winner. But I know that's kind of 56 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: your time to step away. I also know you're looking 57 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: ahead always, So what does twenty five look like in 58 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: terms of your golf? Are you gonna do anything different 59 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: in terms of your prep headed into the next season. 60 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean every year it's kind of like, uh, 61 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: your little speed training, kind of get your speed up 62 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: over the winner. Then the tournament season comes and I 63 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: kind of regress on my speed. So this is my 64 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: time here, I'm training. Okay, So a few little nagging injuries, 65 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: nothing serious, but kind of getting over those right now, 66 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: doing my speed training, help coach my kids, and then 67 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: I need to work on my wedge play. Okay, So 68 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: especially for Arizona golf specifically, if so many web shots 69 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: from like pitching wedge, you know, one forty five down 70 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: to one hundred yards, I gotta get better at that. 71 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: That's where that's where my competitors in the section might 72 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: have a little edge on better. So I'm gonna dial 73 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: in my wedge play this this year. 74 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonnalean into the stack this winter. I'm 75 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: gonna do a little stack. 76 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: You speed up. 77 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, James Nitties and I who I do the corn 78 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: fairy stuff with him and I are doing a little 79 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: competition with a stack, so we'll see what our numbers 80 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: look like. 81 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: It's really fun to do in the off season. You 82 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: don't need to care where the ball's going. 83 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: Is the point is it just swing? Just just swing 84 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: really hard and get ready for golf. Obviously, live in 85 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: the Northeast, it's like, what are you gonna do in 86 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: the winter anything, So it's a perfect time to do that. 87 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: I want to get in some questions because we got 88 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: some good ones, we got some interesting ones. One of these, well, 89 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: the first question that I thought was great was just 90 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: how is Marty so smart? Marty, do you have an 91 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: answer for that? 92 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Twenty years of coming into the office every single day 93 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: and being around the smartest people in golf. The culture 94 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: here at Ping is phenomenal. It's like all you have 95 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: to do is come to work and ask some questions 96 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: of your co workers. And there's this famous quote which 97 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: is like the further you are from the shore, the 98 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: deeper the ocean. So it's like, you come into work, 99 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: you ask questions. You can't help, but you know, just 100 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: chipping away and get a little smarter every day. 101 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: Lean on someone Chris Colevali I think is the name, said, 102 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: can you speak to what's coming down the pike for 103 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: you guys in twenty twenty five. I know you can't 104 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: reveal too much in terms of new product, but maybe 105 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: just give people an idea of what to expect over 106 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: the next couple of months from Ping. Yeah, it's gonna 107 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: be exciting. It's gonna be super exciting. We have amazing 108 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: product in pretty much every category coming down the pipe. 109 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: So some great R and D that we've been working 110 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: on here at the proving grounds. The engineers are working 111 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: on some material innovation, some modeling, innovations. Some technology with 112 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: regards to new shaft designs is coming down the pipe 113 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: pretty soon. We're seeding some things on the tour right now, 114 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: which is super duper exciting. Spring of twenty five is 115 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: gonna be arguably our most exciting product launch of all time. 116 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: What a tease, man, It's like you almost have done 117 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: this for a living Slight asked, how can I recreate? 118 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know if we can recreate it, but 119 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: how do I recreate Ping's grip taping spindle in my garage? 120 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Ooh, the taping spindle? Now that's great if anyone's ever 121 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: been on a tour Ping, I think we have a video. 122 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: If you go to our web page, you see that 123 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: we tape our grips different than everybody else. So Carston, 124 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: our founder, he was trying to figure out. He was 125 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: always questioning everything. You know, you want to kind of 126 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: be that little skeptic, like is this the right way 127 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: to do it? In? The classic way to tape to 128 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: tape regrip your clubs at home is you use tape, 129 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: you fold it over, you get a little seam that 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: can be kind of annoying if you're not like. 131 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: I do it at my house. That's how I do it, right, 132 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean I don't have a spindle. That's how I 133 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: do it at home. 134 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: You get that little seam. And he actually did testing 135 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: back back when Carson came up with this process. The 136 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: tape wasn't as good, okay, so you could actually pull 137 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: the grip off and it would get loose or twist. 138 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: And so he tried the spindle method, which is both 139 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: faster to do in production so we could build club quicker, 140 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: and the strength was more when he tried to pull 141 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: the grips off. So he came up with this method. 142 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: It stuck. It's our proprietary equipment. We do a lot 143 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: of things here that are kind of trade secret. We 144 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: build all of our own equipment manufacturing equipment here to 145 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: support our team that does our assembly. So it's a 146 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: fun method to do. I'm really slow at it when 147 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: we go down work production, but if you go down 148 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: and see our production folks doing that, they do it 149 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: so fast it's incredible. 150 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: So for a slide dog leg, the answer is come 151 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: to ping and get your clu script. There you go. 152 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: That's the answer for you. John Gilman said, how do 153 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: you know what's actually time to upgrade? Your clubs, which 154 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: I do think is probably a question that would be 155 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: considered generic, but I also think it's probably something people 156 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: think a lot about a lot. 157 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a great one, I think. In you know, 158 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: the way I would look at that is you look 159 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: at the most important categories for scoring, which is driving 160 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: and putting. So I would be almost continuously looking at 161 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: those those those clubs. If you're in a really well 162 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: fit driver, it does not hurt once a year to 163 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: go out and see if our latest technology can beat it. 164 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Your game and your body evolves also, so your swing changes. 165 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I think this is like the way to really think 166 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: about a tour fitting is that no tour players ever 167 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: really like static in their their clubs. The everyday golfer 168 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: is the same. Your your your swing could change, your 169 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: angle of attack, could change things of this nature. So 170 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: at least once a year I would go check in 171 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: on your driver, make sure it's fit well. We actually 172 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: have tools built into our apps we make, like pink 173 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Co Pilot that can do a strokes gain comparison, so 174 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: you could go in and hit your driver, hit it 175 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: compared to one of our new ones and let the 176 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: strokes gain do the talking. 177 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if the numbers look good to you, 178 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: I think that's probably your answer, right, Like it's timed 179 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: upgrade exactly. How do you get the PLD patina finish? 180 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: Somebody asked, Yeah, it's very popular and it's one people 181 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: I think are big fans. 182 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Of the Patina is a beautiful finish, And what patina 183 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: is it's kind of like an oxidation process. So when 184 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: it happens out on I don't know, you have like 185 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: a copper wind chimes and have that turquoise color to it, 186 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: or the Statue of Liberty is the kind of a 187 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: version of a Patina finish. It's a natural oxidation that 188 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: occurs out in the natural environment on certain types of alloys. Well, 189 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: we have a way to do that in a super 190 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: controlled fashion that gets that oxidation to occur perfectly uniform 191 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: on the putter, so you get that beautiful look, that 192 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: beautiful oxidation. So it's a chemical process that we do 193 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: under very strict process controls that allows us to get 194 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: that uniform look. 195 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: I think all the answers to like the super like 196 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: like in depth golf questions, is it takes a lot 197 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: of time and a lot of effort from the team. 198 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's we were still trying to perfect that 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Patina finish, and that's why it took us a long 200 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: time to be able to launch it to consumers. We've 201 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: done it for tour players, but we could do it. 202 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: It's not perfect. We rework it and do it again, 203 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: but we're finally excited to pass that along as a 204 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: finish in PLD. 205 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: I think you get this question a lot. I think 206 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: it's been a popular talking point throughout the podcast. Full 207 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: Specs on Jersey on Marty's Thriver build. How often do 208 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: you get asked about the Thriver first foremost? 209 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, a ton. 210 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: I mean it's like, I mean, this might be your 211 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: lasting legacy at ping, is the Thriver? 212 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Quite honestly, it's It's part of It's one of the 213 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: reasons I had a really good playing season this year 214 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: because I can't remember a time where I hit my 215 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Thriver like in the desert or got a penalty shot 216 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: or something, you know, which with the traditional three wood 217 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: I would definitely have done. So Yeah, I've been playing 218 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: it close to two years now, a good year and 219 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: a half. I played it last season. This season, my 220 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: specs are twelve degree max head, so G four to 221 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: thirty twelve degree max. I put the seed the Hozle 222 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: trajectory tuning hozzle in the flat position, so it's three 223 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: degrees flat. This is kind of the semi secret settings 224 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: opposite the dot position three degrees flat. For langle, I 225 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: put the CG shifter in the fade or the toe setting. 226 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I've built in about D four swing weight, and I 227 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: put our Tour two point zero black shaft. This thing is. 228 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty stout at forty three and a quarter inches, 229 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: so that's my specs for the driver. Absolutely love it. 230 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: It's functional enough off the ground, but I mean eighty 231 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time I'm hitting that thing off 232 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: the teeth. 233 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: What's the distance on your thriver? 234 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I just I usually kind of tee it low and 235 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: sort of chip it down there, and it's never full. 236 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever trying to. I mean, you've 237 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: you've talked me into the thriv I love it as well, 238 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: but you're never going for full four at it. 239 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean I fly it between two sixty five and 240 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: two seventy depends on the course conditions how far that 241 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: thing needs to roll out. Obviously I can hit it. 242 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: You could do the same thing I mean, we could 243 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: build a club to go further, but then it turns 244 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: into your driver. 245 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: There's no point. I mean, you don't want it like that. 246 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: And we talked so much about gappy and we did it, 247 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: especially early in the podcast. We talked a lot about gapping, 248 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: and I think that is one thing is just making 249 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: sure it's not overlapping another golf club way right. 250 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't want it to go too far 251 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: right because I needed to go that very specific number. 252 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Is it probably flies two seventy stock you know, then 253 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: average rolls out to maybe two eighty something right in there. 254 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: J Pat Brown said, your favorite interview of the year, Marty, 255 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: do you have a podcast episode that comes to mind? 256 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I would. 257 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: I'll start. I mean, I I got a chance to 258 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: talk to Bubba and do a podcast with Bubba Masters 259 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: week in Augusta, and he came in and he was 260 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: in an awesome mood, and he was, you know, like 261 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: really excited about chatting about you know, not just the week, 262 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: but just kind of his experience at Augusta, Nashvill and 263 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: the Masters and stuff like that. And I really enjoyed it. 264 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I like getting to chat with Bubba when 265 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Bubba's rocking and rolling. I don't know if there's anything 266 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: more fun to do in golf, and he was dialed, 267 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: so I'd say Bubba is very high on my list. 268 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. Yeah, No, that's great. I think in 269 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: twenty three it was Victor right after on the BMW. 270 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about that before the podcast started. 271 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: You know, you forget you know, Victor and people behind 272 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: the scenes like getting players to agree to do stuff. 273 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not always the easiest thing in the 274 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: world because they've got a lot of stuff going on, 275 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: and then a guy wins a big tournament like Victor did, 276 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: and stuff gets complicated. He has other interview requests, he's 277 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: got other you know, maybe TV appearance he's got to do. 278 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: On that Monday, he came right in on Right in 279 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: the Rock and he he jumped in, didn't get a 280 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: out of sleep, and he admitted on the podcast. But yeah, 281 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: getting getting Victor right there was fine. 282 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: That was my favorite twenty three. I think this year's 283 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: version of that was like probably Lauren Coughlin. We had 284 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: her right during the middle of her hot run, right. 285 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I think we talked to her a few days after 286 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: she got picked for the Solheim Cup team, so I 287 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, pretty close between her and Matt McCarty. Yep, 288 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: we had both of them on right and similar to Victor, 289 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: I love talking to the players right when they're in 290 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the middle of their their golf heaters. 291 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: The McCarty one was great. I mean, you know, obviously 292 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: get a chance to like I've known that for a 293 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: long time, but getting a chance to kind of cover 294 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: that corn Fairy Tour run and it felt like every 295 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: single week and to see it click in, you know. 296 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he came so close in twenty three to 297 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: get his PJA Tour card. I mean he missed out 298 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: basic make it a big number on the last hole 299 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: of the finals. I mean, that was what kept him 300 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: from getting his PGA Tour card. And guys can go away. 301 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: It's easy to go away when something like that happens. 302 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: We actually had an unfortunate situation at Q School last 303 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: year in twenty three where a guy had a penalty 304 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: and really struggled this past year in terms of playing. 305 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he was very close to get his PGA 306 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: Tour card that way, and to see Matt bounce right 307 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: back and then to find this form and him talk 308 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: about it on the podcast. I would urge people. You 309 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: mentioned the Lauren episode, which I thought was great. I 310 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: would tell people if there's a couple to go back 311 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: and listen to Matt's. Matt's story is very cool, you know, 312 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: seeing guys kind of do that level. Joe Smith asked 313 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: a question, and I actually think this is interesting for you, Marty. 314 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: How do you choose your pink clubs? There's so many 315 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: pin clubs out there. How do you go about choosing 316 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: what goes in your bag versus some of the other 317 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: clubs that maybe might not make the cut? 318 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, meet me personally. Yeah, this is kind of a 319 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: hard thing for me to do because I do get 320 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: to experiment and go hit all the clubs, and I 321 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: could kind of self fit myself heal. But I schedule 322 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: a fitting and we talked to the Summer Hayes family. 323 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: They do this too. They have Summer Hayes Day here 324 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: at Ping. Everybody, whole family comes in. It's it's like 325 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: a pilgrimage, you know, they come in, they all get 326 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: get their bags settled. For the most part. Obviously, they'll 327 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: make a little micro tweaks throughout the year. I tried this. 328 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I make a very concerted effort to schedule a fitting 329 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: for myself. So with with our master fitters made with 330 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Brad Millard, our one of our PGA tour reps, who's 331 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: a great fitter I ever lied a upon for a 332 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: long time and I just blank out. I just tell 333 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: them treat me like I'm up, you've never seen me before, right, 334 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and fit me into whatever. And I love doing that. 335 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: And that's when I can open the open, open the 336 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: door to maybe try something to them and tried normally. 337 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, Brad Millard was the one that got me 338 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: into the shaft that I use my been using my 339 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: driver for the last couple of years, the RDX blue shaft. 340 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I would I would not have known that, right, And 341 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: so uh that's what I try to do and be 342 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: super open minded about it now. Yeah, I do kind 343 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: of No I want. I'm gonna be a blueprint ass 344 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: type of player. 345 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. 346 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: For you. 347 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's tough because I'm sure you go into it. 348 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you can tell a fitter, you know, approaches 349 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: like you've never met me before, but you know so 350 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: much about all the golf clubs. I'm sure you already 351 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: have an idea of what you're gonna be playing and 352 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: then to be a little bit more open minded. I 353 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: bet it's important to go in there just because you 354 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: might throw a four iron in you weren't gonna play before. 355 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's really where it comes down to 356 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: those transition clubs. So four iron do I need to 357 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: go to you know, you know, a different foreign solution, 358 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe a different one for different conditions, different time of year. 359 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Brad Mollard got me into playing the Blueprint Tea and 360 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: the pitching Wedge. Absolutely love. That's one of my favorite clubs. Yeah. 361 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: So you know, different players with different skills, they can 362 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: switch Blueprints in different parts of the bag. I can 363 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: play the Blueprint te pitching pitching wedge. Jacob Clark got 364 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: me in a great mix. I played the Wide Soul 365 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: or w fifty six degree. You talked me into this. 366 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I do the same thing now, Yeah, And 367 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I would urge people if you know, you know, like 368 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: like it's great for bunker play. I think that was 369 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: one of the reasons you talked me into it was 370 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: long bunker shots. Have you got debunkers at your club 371 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. The White Soul fifty six has 372 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: been a big, big win in my bag. 373 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was Jacob Clark's kind of cheat code 374 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: from the tour is to really create a bigger differentiation 375 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: in your sand wedge and your LOBWTCH because I think 376 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: the default is, oh, I'll play the s grind in 377 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: my sandwich, I'll play that in my lob wedg. There's 378 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of benefit to having that wider soul in 379 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: your sandwich. I'm a little steeper, you get a little 380 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: steep from time to time, and then playing a totally 381 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: different green side optimized lab wedge, so I play our 382 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, our t grind traditionally in the in the 383 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: law bunch well. 384 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: And what I've noticed with the two with the two 385 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: different options in the fifty six and the sixty is 386 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: around the greens as well, depending on where you're playing 387 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: in the country. I mean, some of the times it's 388 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: important to go with that wide soul fifty six with 389 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: a shot you might hit sixty with just because you've 390 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: got a little bit more club to work with there. Yeah. 391 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: G Shaw Golf said, why does Ping have different lie 392 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,479 Speaker 2: angles lie angle increments between clubs that the other manufacturers 393 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: and why does this make the delta larger within a set. 394 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a great question. So this is for the 395 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: golf techies out there. So if you go on our 396 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: website and you look at the length of iron irons, 397 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: then our liingel the the we change the liingel at 398 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: three quarters of a degree more upright per every half 399 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: inch shorter you go in the club right. So this 400 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: kind of ratio is a little bit different than what 401 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: we've seen some of the competitors do, where they traditionally 402 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: have been at more about half degree per half inch, 403 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: So every club gets a half degree flatter. Ours get 404 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: three quarters of a degree flatter as you go more 405 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: longer in length. We've found that that we've come to 406 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: that conclusion on our own independent research. So player testing 407 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: dynamic delivery with our motion capture system. Now we have 408 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: ARCOS on course data, because that's the ultimate kind of viewpoint, 409 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: is our players missing the ball right on the golf course, 410 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: and we saw that players with their long irons looking 411 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: at our ARCOS data do tend to still miss the 412 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: right a little bit. Right handed golfers with their long irons, 413 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: So we have no reason to believe in both the 414 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: three D delivery and the on course data with arcost 415 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: that we should be making our long irons flatter. If anything, 416 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: it would exasperate a problem that already exists. So that's 417 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: a really fun one. We actually see. The perspective is 418 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: we don't know why the others are at a half 419 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: degree you it makes sense, yeah, But that being said, 420 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of golfers that in one 421 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: of the benefits of our color code system, you can 422 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: play different color codes in different parts of your irons. 423 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: If you go through a fitting process and if you 424 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: are a golfer that might have a different kind of 425 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: transition of your long irons to short irons, you can 426 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: play a different color code in your short irons than 427 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: your mid irons and your long irons. We kind of 428 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: around here in the ping Doome we kind of call 429 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: that rainbowing your set. You can play different color codes 430 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: in your set design. So we still have that ability 431 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to do it for the individual golfer, But on the 432 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: macro level, we like three quarters of a degree per halfn't. 433 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: All right, Marty, very important question. I did not prep 434 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: you for this best shot you hit in twenty twenty four, 435 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: single best golf shot. It doesn't have to be a 436 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: tournament golf shot. Do you have a golf shot that 437 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: stands out in your brain that you'll take into twenty 438 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: five and go I need to remember to hit that one. 439 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh, okay up in Flagstaff Forest Islands. If you play 440 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Forest Islands, okay, Forest Islence. 441 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, and for people that don't know Arizona, one of 442 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: the best courses in Arizona, if not the best. 443 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Golf up in the pine trees seven thousand feet. The 444 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: eighteenth hole on the Canyon course, which the Cannon course 445 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: is tough, is a par five is a wise cough 446 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: split fairway, so you got fairway to the right. Then 447 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: the holes designed a lay up like a three shot hole. 448 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Hit your t shot over to the right. If you 449 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: hit it down the kind of the right side, you 450 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: got a hanging lie ball above your feet. I actually 451 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: think Wiscoff got a lot of inspiration on Canyon from Augusta, Okay, 452 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: because you end up with these little hanging Hey, well 453 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: is the ball above my feet? I got to hit 454 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: this cut shot. 455 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: You know. It's kind of like like they're intuitive right. 456 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: It's like you're trying the ball once to go left 457 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: and you want the ball to go right. 458 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: So I hit a t shot. I'm just playing a 459 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: casual round with some friends over to the right center 460 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: of the fairway. You're blocked out by the trees a 461 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: little bit. So it's all day long. The plays that 462 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: lay it up just just hit your eight iron over 463 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: there and then hit your tournament or you lay up 464 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent for all day long. But I got 465 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: like two sixty to the hole. You know it's up 466 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: at elevation, but you got to hit about a thirty 467 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: yard banana cut. Normally that would be you know, okay 468 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to do, but you got two things going against you. 469 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: One the altitude. The ball doesn't curve as much up there, 470 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: literally curves half as much at seven thousand feet. Two 471 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: of the balls above your feet like this, I'm like, god, 472 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: this is worth a shot. I opened the face on 473 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: this five wood. I play a five wood up there 474 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: so much. It was like a just like a goofy 475 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: golf shot, like banana ball. Hit it out, went over 476 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: the water. It's all water carry over. The water curved around, 477 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: landed about ten feet shore, the hole went twenty feet past, 478 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: drained it for eagle, made the three made it for eagle. Love. 479 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: It's all what was yours? Well, I made a hole 480 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: in one this year, but it was on a par 481 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: three course, which, as you know, I think some people 482 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: debate that is it a real hole in one. You know, 483 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: here's here's kind of my point on it. Every every 484 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: golfer in the world steps on every tee that they've 485 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: ever played, and the goal is to make the shot 486 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: in one. So to me, it's like, you made it 487 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: in one. That's kind of a win. I actually, but 488 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: it was the same trip. I was on this golf 489 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: trip I go with three buddies of mine. We try 490 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: to go once a year somewhere, and I was playing 491 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: this money game and I was getting crushed. I mean, 492 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: we're like seven holes in. I'm playing pretty good, but 493 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: every time it's either I'm the partner I'm with because 494 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: you could change partners throughout the hole. It's like one 495 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: of those games, kind of a wolf game, and I'm 496 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: getting murdered and I'm in the fair way. I'm this 497 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: part four, and I look at my buddy and I go, well, 498 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: I mean I might as well hold this out to 499 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: finally get some dots because I can't get them any 500 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: other way, and made it so called the hole out 501 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: with the nine iron, So I think that was that 502 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: was the day before the hole in one. But I 503 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: still think the calling out the nine iron hole out 504 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: was probably maybe my favorite moment of the year on 505 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: the golf course. Yeah, I call it. 506 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: It was like molinarious open. 507 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like when he made the cut was unbelievable. 508 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: You mean to make the cut with this one, I 509 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: can do it. Well. It's been a fun years. Always 510 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm excited for twenty twenty five. New product in twenty 511 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: twenty five, new podcast in twenty twenty five. We've got 512 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: some awesome episodes that we're looking forward to there. And yeah, 513 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: I mean we kind of go away a little bit 514 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: in late December as we kind of get ready for 515 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: the new year, and then back we're rocking and rolling. 516 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: But always fund the chat. Always fun to do these podcasts. 517 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: What are we sixty something episodes in? It's crazy to 518 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: think we were sitting very close to this position when 519 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: we started this podcast and to think we're a year 520 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: and a half in and we're still rocking and rolling. 521 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: And to everybody that listens, we appreciate the feedback, we 522 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: appreciate the questions. 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