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Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Welcome into another episode of the Two

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Speaker 1: Minute Drill podcast here on the Colts Audio Network. I'm

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankovitz, joined again by Colts Dot Com writer Amanda Foster.

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Speaker 1: We're taping this just after the Colts finished up their

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Speaker 1: final training camp practice for twenty twenty four on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we'll recap our thoughts and observations from

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Speaker 1: two joint practices with the Arizona Cardinals, and we'll look

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Speaker 1: at a few things we're gonna watch for in Saturday

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Speaker 1: night's preseason contest with Arizona at Lucas Oil Stadium. Let's

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Speaker 1: go all right, Amanda, it was a saggy day out here.

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Speaker 1: That is understating. I mean it literally Thursday night, it's

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Speaker 1: six o'clock and it starts raining right on the dot

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Speaker 1: as soon as they blow the whistle to start practice

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Speaker 1: at Grand Park, and then right one practice ends at

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Speaker 1: about seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: The rain ends, of course, is why would it not right?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: But for eighty consecutive minutes it did not stop raining.

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Speaker 2: No, And most of it was like a downpour, like

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Speaker 2: very very like I had an umbrella that I brought,

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Speaker 2: you know, in case of emergency, thinking like I could

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Speaker 2: deal with a little rain. It's not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I'll take notes on my phone, my notebook can like

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Speaker 2: hide away. It won't. It doesn't need to get wet.

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Speaker 2: My umbrella was out for eighty five percent of practice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, uh, you were smart with the umbrella. I wore

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Speaker 1: a what I thought was a waterproof jacket. Turns out

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Speaker 1: there is a limit for waterproof. Yeah, when it's basically

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Speaker 1: like you're being thrown in a pool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would there.

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Speaker 1: There's like clothes can only do so much exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so should have gone with the umbrella. You were smarter

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Speaker 1: on that one. But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But I forgot a raincoat.

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Speaker 1: It didn't the raincoating matter at all. It is absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 1: The goggles do nothing. The let's talk about what we

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Speaker 1: saw it there today though, Yeah, through the rain, through

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Speaker 1: the rain. I think these last two practices were or like,

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Speaker 1: what a great way to finish training camp for the

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Speaker 1: Colts offense, for Anthony Richardson and the Colts offense. They

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Speaker 1: took it to this Cardinals defense, and you can say, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense is maybe a little talent efficient. We've

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Speaker 1: been playing this game. Casey Valier has tested me a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. Hey, name three players on the Cardinals defense.

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Speaker 2: He got me too.

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Speaker 1: And this was before I did like the roster study,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, Buddha Baker and Darius Robinson

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Speaker 1: and Zave and Collins and Sean Murphy Bunting. So I

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Speaker 1: think I got to four. But Jonathan Gannon is a

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Speaker 1: wizard with the way that he draws up schemes and coverages.

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Speaker 1: So regardless of the maybe level of talent that's out there,

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Speaker 1: this was a test for Anthony Richardson to me, Amanda,

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Speaker 1: he passed it with flying colors on both days.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree. And it was the energy and chainstake

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Speaker 2: and said this on both days, the energy that the

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Speaker 2: team brought, that the offense brought, it was like they

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Speaker 2: were playing in an actual game, which you kind of

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Speaker 2: expect in these dry practices because it's against a real opponent,

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Speaker 2: a different team. You do want to prove yourself, you

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Speaker 2: want to prove something to them before you go play

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Speaker 2: them in a preseason game, all of that. But they

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Speaker 2: did not let up at all. And it was the

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Speaker 2: focus and the drive literally and figuratively, the drives that

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Speaker 2: we saw from the offense. Everything was I think what

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Speaker 2: we expected from the first team from Richardson, but that

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Speaker 2: didn't make it any less impressive. It is what it

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Speaker 2: should look right exactly, and the fact that it was

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Speaker 2: what it should have looked like says a lot about

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Speaker 2: I think where this team is at, especially against a

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Speaker 2: team like Arizona. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about some of the throws that

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Speaker 1: Anthony had on Wednesday when it was kind of more

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Speaker 1: What was that like a sixty yard deep ball to

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Speaker 1: Anthony Gould he ripped a thirty five yard or to

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Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell. You were watching the offense on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I believe the thirty five yard I think that was

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Speaker 2: to Pittman in the end zone. Pittman had a touchdown

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Speaker 2: that he leapt over two defenders for and that was

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Speaker 2: a good one. He Richardson had one to Alec Pierce

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Speaker 2: sixty plus yards probably that Pierce just barely missed when

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Speaker 2: good throw. Another one like that it was, Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: through the conditions of the rain, which Richard's like, he's

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Speaker 2: and he put a glove on. He said it was great.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to take the glove off now when

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Speaker 2: he's throwing. But it was both days and to be

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Speaker 2: now he's kind of grown through camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if Wednesday was about explosiveness, Thursday was

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball to the rain, but you saw

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Speaker 1: you saw it was a little sloppy early until he

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Speaker 1: and they cleaned that up with the balls on the

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Speaker 1: efficient getting the ball moving the chains. And then the

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Speaker 1: end of this all the end of training camp. The

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Speaker 1: two minute drill part of PRAC. This so the final

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Speaker 1: thing that Anthony Richards did in training camp was leading

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Speaker 1: a scoring drive a touchdown drive in a two minute drill.

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Speaker 1: He ripped a completion of Michael Pittman Junior to start

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Speaker 1: a great diving catch along the sideline. He had a

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Speaker 1: really nice completion to Adie Mitchell just kind of took

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Speaker 1: what was there deep ball to Alec Pierce, drew past

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Speaker 1: interference and then he scrambled in for a touchdown like

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Speaker 1: a legit of course touchdown, Yeah, legit scramble, not one.

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Speaker 1: That's like you're sort of like, ah, is that what

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Speaker 2: One leg You know, they don't tackle the quarterback and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So after practice, you know, you could just sense

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Speaker 1: from Shane Stike and from Anthony Richards and Amanda just

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Speaker 1: the level of confidence that I think everyone is exiting

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, And I think it's also they came

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Speaker 2: into training camp with that confidence. That was something that

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Speaker 2: I noticed the very first day during player arrivals when

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Speaker 2: we were hearing from everybody, and something that stuck throughout

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Speaker 2: are always things to clean up in trading camp, but

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Speaker 2: nobody ever came into the media tent and looked dejected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or looked mad or for anything.

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Speaker 2: Right, You didn't have guys that were walking off the

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Speaker 2: and I feel like even if maybe one or two

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Speaker 2: to feel that and you're going to get confident. And

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Speaker 2: if you hear Michael Pittman Junior talking from across the field,

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Speaker 2: everything like that. So they build off each other so

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Speaker 2: think we really saw that because when you put another

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Speaker 2: and just go from there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's That's exactly how I kind of

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Speaker 1: it against your own defense. They kind of get you

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Speaker 1: it against the Cardinals defense. It does again a lot

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Speaker 1: of really different stuff, a lot of funky stuff from

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon. That was really really good to see for

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Speaker 1: the Colts defense. A bit of a rocky day, I

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Speaker 1: think on Wednesday for the secondary there was Julian Blackman

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Speaker 1: the ball wasn't on the ground a whole lot on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it on Thursday. I know you were

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Speaker 2: It did. I was mostly focused on the one on

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Speaker 2: with guys like law too. It's really good. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that, right. Yeah, you don't really need to say

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Speaker 2: much about that. You kind of know where they're at.

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Speaker 2: But no, through the rain, through kind of what I

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Speaker 2: pouring down rain. A couple of good pass breakups, there's

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Speaker 2: an interception, guys were on they were defending, they were

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Speaker 2: they could. Some of the the Cardinals receivers were you know,

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Speaker 2: the ball was slipping because it was wet and everything,

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Speaker 2: but it was based off from what I heard from

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Speaker 1: Definitely, that's great because you can have a rough day

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Speaker 1: two rough days. So for that that group to come

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Speaker 1: out and have an improvement is an encouraging thing as

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Speaker 1: the Colts kind of figure out what their secondary is

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Speaker 1: going to look like this year. All right, I do

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the defensive line though, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: because when we got into the two minute, it was

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Speaker 1: all on the same field. So the Colts first team

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals first team offense did not move the ball. Nope,

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Speaker 1: there was a play. It got moved back, It got

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Speaker 1: moved back, correct, it got moved back. There is a

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Speaker 1: Bill Brooks and it's one of those where I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: did you see that? So Kyler Murray as he does

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Speaker 1: he escapes the pocket to his left. But when Kyler

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna kind of scramble around there, make play.

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Speaker 1: He's so good at that. And Kyler escapes to his left,

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Speaker 1: and I think he sees kind of this, this gaggle

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Speaker 1: all right, those guys are all tied up together. I

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Speaker 1: and right in his face is Layoutu Latu, I mean

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Speaker 1: like right in his face. And I saw that, and

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Speaker 1: I was like the way that Latu is able to

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Speaker 1: come right back over there. This guy. Every day you

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Speaker 1: see something in lat too where you're just like that guy,

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Speaker 1: Like there is no reason to believe that he is

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Speaker 1: not in for a special rookie season based on what

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Speaker 1: we've seen out here. And that was another one of

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Speaker 1: those markers for me, Amanda with him.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you ask anybody out here about him, you hear

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Speaker 2: some other new analogy about how he plays or how

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Speaker 2: he moves like water. That was incredible, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you move like water when you're a person.

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Speaker 1: But I believe it, like that's something.

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Speaker 1: on Saturday in the Colts preseason game against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: That's not a surprise. Colts last year did the same

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Speaker 1: thing against the Chicago Bears resting their starters. You won't

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Speaker 1: see Joe Flacco out there either. Otherwise you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: pretty much all the twos and threes go. So with

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Speaker 1: that in mind, Amanda, what what do you want to see?

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Speaker 1: Who are some players you're kind of highlighting in this

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Speaker 1: game because we're gonna have to watch it, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to write about it. There's gonna be a a

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Speaker 1: lot of interesting stuff that's going to happen in this game.

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Speaker 1: Give me a couple of players so you're interested in seeing,

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 2: Let me let me think the first one is and

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Speaker 2: I partly because I talked to him after last week's game,

446
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Speaker 2: Micah Abraham, because he he had the fumble, forced it,

447
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Speaker 2: grabbed it, went down for a forty five yard touchdown,

448
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Speaker 2: and talking to him in the locker room, he was

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Speaker 2: just so excited, he was so happy. He was great

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Speaker 2: to talk to. And I think he he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: It was his first NFL preseason game. For someone to

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Speaker 2: have such a big play in the first NFL game

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Speaker 2: basically that you play in, it says a lot about

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Speaker 2: kind of his confidence and then how much it can

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Speaker 2: improve his confidence. And he said that he looks up

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Speaker 2: to Kenny Kenny Moore a lot, and then I talked

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Speaker 2: to Kenny about him and he was like, well, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: but that was all Micah, Like that was all his

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Speaker 2: visible ability, that's all him. Like Kenny was on the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: he didn't really have a part in that play, if

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Speaker 2: you will. And so I think there's there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of potential. We haven't talked about Micah. You know, you

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Speaker 2: talk about the big names at training camp, but he's

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Speaker 2: one that I think and I wish that I had

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Speaker 2: paid a little bit more attention to in camp just

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Speaker 2: to kind of get a better idea for his game,

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Speaker 2: because what I saw against the Broncos on Sunday was

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Speaker 2: very good. And I think if he continues to play

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Speaker 2: like that, and Chane Steichen said this, that he's gonna

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Speaker 2: make a name for himself pretty quickly. And so now

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Speaker 2: it's not whether or not he can make that big play.

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Speaker 2: He's proven that he can make the big play, it's

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Speaker 2: whether or not he can do it consistently. And this

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Speaker 2: is the time where you kind of it's kind of

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Speaker 2: do or die for someone like him who's kind of

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Speaker 2: fighting for a roster spot, fighting to still prove himself

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Speaker 2: in that position. Where can you do it against another team,

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Speaker 2: a team that you've gone up against twice, enjoyed practices

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Speaker 2: so you kind of know a little bit of how

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Speaker 2: they operate. Can you still force a mistake or get

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Speaker 2: a ball or do something big and prove that you

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Speaker 2: can be a valuable asset to this team. I think

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Speaker 2: he can based off of the confidence that he gave

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Speaker 2: after that last play, and so I'm curious to see

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Speaker 2: that's going to carry over onto the field.

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Speaker 1: So Gus Bradley talked this week about Micah and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, you love the playmaking. You love that he

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Speaker 1: did miss a tackle in that game against Denver, So

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Speaker 1: you want to see the more down to down consistency

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Speaker 1: in addition to you, hey, continue those splash plays and

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Speaker 1: just kind of throwing a little cold water on it.

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Speaker 1: But I thought when Gus said that, I thought back

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Speaker 1: to last year and I know you weren't here, but

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Speaker 1: Darius Rush was a fifth round pick. He's a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: and he had a pick six in the Colts preseason

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Speaker 1: opener against Buffalo, and he wound up getting cut a

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Speaker 1: couple weeks later. Now, that was because Jalen Jones earned

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Speaker 1: his way out of the roster, and Jalen Jones the

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Speaker 1: reason why the Colts were not able to keep Darius

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Speaker 1: Rushing their roster is because Jalen Jones was so good

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Speaker 1: in training camp. But just because you have one splash

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Speaker 1: play in a preseason game does not guarantee your spot

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Speaker 1: on the roster. You got to be able to be consistent.

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Speaker 1: So I'm absolutely gonna look at him in this game though,

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Speaker 1: and say, Okay, hey, we saw your ballhawking skills, we

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Speaker 1: saw your playmaking ability. Now can you go out there

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Speaker 1: and be you know, assignment, sound techniques, sound go make

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Speaker 1: the kind of plays that Gus Bradley wants to see

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Speaker 1: you make, that Ron Milas wants to see you make.

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Speaker 1: I have another cornerback on here. I want to see

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Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers in this game. Yeah, he's been running a

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Speaker 1: lot with the with the twos, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is a really good opportunity for him to kind of

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Speaker 1: get a full game where that first preseason game against Denver,

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Speaker 1: I know he got penalized once or twice, maybe wasn't

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Speaker 1: what he wanted it to be. But Gus Bradley also

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Speaker 1: in his media session this week, he kind of said,

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Speaker 1: we're not really holding that against Dallas because that was

519
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Speaker 1: his first game since October first to last year against

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Speaker 1: the Rams when he tore his achilles.

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Speaker 2: Right, when you tear your achille, like that's a big thing.

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Speaker 1: To come back, not like it's not one of those

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Speaker 1: things where like I remember a couple of players who

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Speaker 1: have had it, Like Eric Fisher was here a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, and he said, like, you don't really

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Speaker 1: feel totally like yourself right until a little ways, you know,

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Speaker 1: over a year out. Dioa Dangbo said the same thing

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. So that's not something that you

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Speaker 1: can just kind of hey, we're back and we're good.

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Speaker 1: You still have to kind of work your way back in.

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Speaker 1: So I want to see Dallas get a you know,

532
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Speaker 1: a a decent opportunity here in this game. And he's

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Speaker 1: had some moments in camp certainly where he'd he'd the

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Speaker 1: interception the other day against Arizona and a guy who

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Speaker 1: the Colts still really value his skill set and what

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Speaker 1: he can bring to the table. Another guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just a lay up. I feel like Anthony Gould.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say that the training camp.

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Speaker 1: He's had has been really really impressive so far.

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Speaker 2: If he has the chance, I don't see any reason

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Speaker 2: why he would not be capable of returning a kickoff

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown at some point. But you know, like

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Speaker 2: we saw today exactly, it was like huh okay to.

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Speaker 1: Tell, but it looked pretty close.

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Speaker 2: His speed and agility to get around guys is something

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Speaker 2: like we saw it against the Broncos too. Obviously he

547
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Speaker 2: didn't go all the way down, but like he in

548
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Speaker 2: a real game, he can move and that's a that's

549
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Speaker 2: a valuable asset on special teams, and it's a valuable

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Speaker 2: asset for the wide receiver room. And that goes back

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Speaker 2: to what I was talking about before of just how

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Speaker 2: deep that is and how much potential that he has

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Speaker 2: to really make an impact.

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Speaker 1: I think a gold dirt from what I've seen during

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Speaker 1: training camp. I think he's he's starting to push for

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Speaker 1: this guy could have a role in the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: room this year. We're not talking about him being the

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Speaker 1: you know, number three, number four target in that room,

559
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Speaker 1: but like a guy who Shane Stiken could do some

560
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Speaker 1: fun stuff with. Oh yeah, when when it's all said

561
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Speaker 1: and done, there a couple other guys here. I just

562
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Speaker 1: jotted down Jilanni Woods. Just you want to see Kim

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Speaker 1: kind of continue to stack. I thought his game against

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Speaker 1: Denver was pretty good. I thought he had some good

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Speaker 1: moments in the run game, in the in the receiving game,

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Speaker 1: he probably would have had a touchdown had Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: not been under pressure and got hit when he threw

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Speaker 1: on that interception. But you know, he's a guy you

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Speaker 1: want to see more consistency out of him. You want

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Speaker 1: to see him put good things on tape because his

571
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Speaker 1: coaching staff still needs to see it from Jolnny Woods.

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Speaker 1: They still need to see it consistently from him. And

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Speaker 1: then another guy Amanda is Evan Hall, Yes, who had

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Speaker 1: he had a touchdown the other day in the preseason game,

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Speaker 1: a guy who's been kind of jockeying with Tyler Goodson

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Speaker 1: maybe for that third running back spot. A big opportunity

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Speaker 1: for him on on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've been I've been writing Hull's day, Hole's

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Speaker 2: name down a lot, not necessarily because of big plays,

580
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Speaker 2: but just because of the consistency with which they're they're

581
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Speaker 2: handing the ball off to him, and that he's getting

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Speaker 2: repsa in camp and against the Broncos, and it seems

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Speaker 2: like there's a big trust factor there that they understand

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Speaker 2: that he can run the ball, he can rush, he

585
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Speaker 2: can get a couple of yards here and there. It's

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Speaker 2: not that he's making those necessarily big, splashy plays, but

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Speaker 2: it kind of goes back to what we were saying

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Speaker 2: of just being a down by down guy, being a

589
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Speaker 2: consistent guy who's going to show up and get you

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Speaker 2: what you need in that one situation. And I think

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Speaker 2: Hall has proven over the last kind of week or

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Speaker 2: so that he can be one of those reliable guys

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Speaker 2: and that he's worth keeping an eye on for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Two real quick other ones that I just

595
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Speaker 1: had kind of had pop into my head that I

596
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about with me, Keeton Slovas and Jason Bean,

597
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Speaker 1: who are going to get quite a bit of playing

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Speaker 1: time in this game. The Colts kind of fourth fifth

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the roster, But these are two guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Keaton Slovas has some real arm talent. Yeah, and Jason

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Speaker 1: Bean's got He's got a little something to him. I

602
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Speaker 1: don't know quite what it is yet, but I see

603
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Speaker 1: that guy and I'm like, guy's a good football player.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see those guys maybe get extended play,

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Speaker 1: maybe they get a quarter, maybe they get a little

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Speaker 1: more than a quarter. We'll kind of see how that

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Speaker 1: plays out with Sam Ellinger on Saturday. And that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us here in the Two Minute Too Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in a couple of weeks. I

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Speaker 1: don't think next week, Amanda, we're gonna do an episode.

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Speaker 1: Still trying to figure out what being a Thursday game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have the Official Cults podcast on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. So we will probably be coming to you

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Speaker 1: in two weeks, which will be really good timing because

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Speaker 1: in two weeks, Amanda, the Colts fifty three man roster

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Speaker 1: is gonna be set man, the practice squad is gonna

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Speaker 1: Instant Reaction breaking down the Colts and Cardinals game. You

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Speaker 1: for a really interesting chat from a national perspective on

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Are gonna run that next week. We're all

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Speaker 1: gonna also have Inside Football with Rick Ventury next week

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Speaker 1: with Matt Taylor and Rick Ventury breaking down the Colts

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Speaker 1: Cardinals game end keys to the Colts Bengals preseason finale.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, that's gonna do it for us here

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Speaker 1: on the Two Minute Drill Podcast. Thanks for listening to

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