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Hit the tab that 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.680 says tour and me and to Lisa Judais cannot wait 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:07.880 to see you on Tuesday, June eighteenth in New York City. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.360 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.320 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.960 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.080 years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.560 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:31.960 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:39.280 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about, and 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.320 rain drops on today's episode of Reality with King honay 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:49.000 Que the Sirens si Era. Yes, because no, we are 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.560 not in traffic in New York City, so don't worry, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.720 rain drops. We are talking about the Real Housewives of 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.880 New Jersey reunion being canceled and what that means for 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.880 this franchise. But first, I cannot do this alone. I'm 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:11.120 here with fan fave also somebody who is like worse 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.800 than me when it comes to like knowing Jersey. He's 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.720 like a Jersey magnet when it comes to the history 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.239 of not only this show, but all the Housewives and 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.560 the Bravo shows and me anymore. Give it up for Gibs. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:25.959 And John's Carlos. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.200 Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be back always 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.240 talking about Jersey with you. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.800 I know no listen the last tie you were on, Honey, 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.600 the audience went wild because the beauty of me talking 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.880 to you, and I love talking to any guest of 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.160 mine where we don't agree on the same thing, but 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.400 that to me makes a very expressing conversation. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.040 I totally agree, and it's like I wish that we 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.519 could disagree more in this like online Housewives universe without 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.600 it getting ugly, you know. So you know, we can 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.000 be cordial and disagree and let's let's. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.160 Let's keep it that way. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.600 And I also, I also I think it's good to 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.440 help each other see the light on certain things, you 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.200 know what I mean. I'm not closed off. I'm not 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.640 closed off to thinking differently. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.680 I'm really not. So there's that. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.600 No, honey, you are very fair. We follow e Chuck 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.560 on Twitter. I love your reviews, I love your recaps, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.600 and I love your point of views. And listen, thank you. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.600 This is sort of like what Joy Behar and Megan 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.240 McKay will be like if they had no cap. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.520 I'm not Megan. I'm not calling I'm not Megan. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.639 I'm not Megan. I'm that's my girl. I'm Meggant. You're 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:35.440 Joy Bayhar. Okay, so down, So we're gonna have a 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:40.360 great conversation. Who knows, maybe in the end, Gibson, you 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.720 and I will agree, Okay maybe maybe? Yes, yes, yes, okay. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.080 So breaking news, Gibson, The Real Housewives of New Jersey 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.680 will not have a traditional reunion for season fourteen. Our 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.520 friend Dave Quinn over at People Magazine have the exclusive 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:04.600 where he is reporting that based on his source, they said, 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:09.280 and I quote, a reunion is meant to have resolution, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:15.120 and it's clear in the season finale that there is 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.760 no path forward in that type of setting. So the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:25.480 network is figuring out a different concept to wrap up 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:30.960 the season. Now, the last time a Real Housewives franchise 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:37.159 this big because in the installment chronological order, it started 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.880 off with the OC, then it was New York, then Atlanta, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.680 then Jersey. So the first time this happened was the 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.680 Real Housewives of New York City reunion where Honey the 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:54.280 Girls bought gowns, had dresses made, and then that reunion 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.920 was not only canceled, the Honey the Girls were canceled 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.400 and they were not allowed to come back into another season. So, Gibson, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.880 we were all aware of where we were when O 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.520 J was in the White Bronco, So I need to 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.720 know where you were when you learn that there were 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.400 up the Jersey reunion was canceled. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.799 Carlos, I just told you. I was at a Bacherette 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.960 party this weekend. I was several high Newons deep into 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.919 my day drinking journey when this news broke and I 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.320 stopped in my tracks, excused myself from the group, read 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.760 the article, tweeted about it and did and then you know, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.880 wipe my hands of it and went along with my weekend. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.159 But yeah, it shook me. It shook me to my core. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.160 It's like it's one of those things where like it 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.760 really doesn't happen very often, Like you just said, it's happened. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.920 It only happened one time before. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.000 It only happened one time, Yes, and only one time 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:54.840 with the New York City. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.400 Yeah. Yeah, And it's so it's it's a it's a 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.359 huge deal. It's a huge deal, and so you know, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.480 it shakes you. But then if you really think about it, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.920 I guess maybe it's a smart move. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.440 I guess. I mean, it's like. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.360 It, but it's it's it's difficult to imagine that the 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.479 network is happy that this news came out so early 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.920 in the season because it makes it makes it affects 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.600 how we view the rest of the season, right, It 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.120 affects like it kind of lowers the stakes, it makes 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.640 it sort of takes some of the auction out of 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.200 the room. I think when it comes to the building 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.560 drama on Jersey this season and like I'm still gonna 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.359 like enjoy watching it, I think, but like when you 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.479 know you're not building up to a big confrontation at 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.760 the reunion, So it's it's a valid question to ask, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:36.960 like what's the point. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.680 Yeah, a lot of the fans responses to this breaking 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.080 news gifts and what's just that? Like, what's the point? 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.920 What's the point in me watching this? Because again, we 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.039 watch these docuseries to really see like how are things 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.040 going to end and what sort of questions we are 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.720 going to submit to brablotv dot com. Andy can ask 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.600 the but have a Meredith and Idaho, right, So Meredith 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.120 and Idaho fortunately will not get her questions asked after 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:08.359 reunion because of the of the cancelation. Now, one of 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.080 my sources did tell me, Gibson, because you brought up 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.400 a very good point. You said the network could not 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.720 be happy that this got out so early in the season. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.400 I was told by a reliable source that they were 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.880 allegedly supposed to take the reunion this month. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.560 Wow, that's doesn't that feel early too? 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.440 Well? This is the gag of the gagag Gass Gibson. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:40.520 What I don't know is how many episodes Jersey has Now. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.000 What we do know is this, because I'm sure you 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.360 heard this too, Gibson, the girls were supposed to go 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.679 on a cast trip and the house burned down before 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.320 they arrived. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:52.679 That did happen? 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:59.240 That happened, right, So rain drops. When you are doing 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:04.840 a cast that typically can guarantee you anywhere between three 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:10.560 and four episodes, right without a cast trip. The minimum 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.840 episodes that a reality show usually gets of this magnitude, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.800 it's like fourteen episodes in a two or three part reunion. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.960 Without those additional three or four episodes, Gibson, this season 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.160 could be very small, like eleven twelve episodes. So you're right. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.200 We just watched what episode five? Last? 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:31.480 Was it? 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.120 Episode five? 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:32.560 I think? 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:37.760 So, yeah, last night. The other thing, too, is normally 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:44.120 you tape a reunion maybe five to six episodes before 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.960 for the finale, right before the finale, so we could 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.360 be looking at anywhere between a ten to twelve episode order, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.640 which is very, very very small. Hence why the casts 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.440 were allegedly supposed to tape the reunion this month. The 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.200 news broke out, this is not looking good for the cast. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:06.360 I have been hearing that the cast is scared, shaking 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.080 in their boots. They are afraid of their jobs being 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.400 on the line. Now, As somebody who's been watching this season, 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.880 what are your thoughts on this season thus far, because 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.880 a lot of people are having a very not some 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.000 nice reaction to the season so far. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.800 It's funny because I, I guess and the minority, Like, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.280 I feel like I've been like kind of enjoying this season, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.240 and to me, it hasn't been like super divisive or 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.320 explosive yet, like it's clearly building up to that. But like, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.439 I don't mind Melissa and Teresa kind of just coexisting. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.240 I don't like, I kind of like their kind of 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.120 parallel path of like both sending off their daughters to college, 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.319 and it's I've actually liked those scenes a lot, those 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.760 personal scenes, and like, to me, that to me, actually, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.560 you know, I'm really really intrigued by the Jackie of 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.040 it all, and like how she's jumping jumping sides. I 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.440 think that that is incredibly compelling TV, especially knowing how 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.320 kind of entrench the divide in this group has been 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.160 for like five or six years at. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.760 This point, you know. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.360 And and so I'm actually I know it's in the minority, 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.520 but I'm finding it to be fairly pleasant comparatively, you 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.599 know what I mean, Like, do you not feel that 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.200 way or are. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:12.080 You enjoying it too? 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.960 So, no, good question. I really enjoyed the first episode. Yeah, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.880 for the same It was a good premiere. Yeah, I 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.400 thought it was a great premiere. I love seeing you know, 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.120 Toree some Alyssa being mom sending their daughters off to college. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.960 It also made me choke a little bit too, because 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.280 you know, as family, you want to share that moment together. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.920 And and look, I think the saddest part to me, Gibson, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.120 is the fact that the cousins aren't even able to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.160 share those absolutely together, because that's that's that's when you 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.400 really bond over the fact that we're both about to 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.160 be freshman in college. Like, oh my gosh, girl call 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:50.960 me if this happens, I'm gonna call you. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.040 Let's visit each other exactly. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.120 Yeah, so I really enjoyed the premiere. And then to 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.040 your point, look, this season is definitely starting off slow, 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.640 and I think the reason why it is is because, look, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.200 they just don't like each other. They don't like each other. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:13.040 And I agree with you, actually, Gibson, last night's episode, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:20.880 I really was intrigued by Jackie and Melissa at the 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.160 dinner table. We'll get to that in a second, but 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.560 a lot of fans have said this season is boring. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.479 A lot of fans have just said they're not interested 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.040 in it. They're even talking about The ratings have hit 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.920 an all new series low for the fourteen season franchise. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.520 What has also been reported is the fact that in 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:49.000 the finale episode allegedly brought this decision to its core 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.920 of canceling the reunion. Allegedly, in the finale, it is 0:11:53.960 --> 0:12:00.480 being reported that this big fight happens between Jennifer Aiden 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:06.040 and Danielle, and that allegedly a glass picture, like you 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.280 know how you put you just make kool aid. I'm 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.360 older than you give sense I remember the commercials Okay, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.840 so remember that little glass picture where you're red kool aid. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.360 Because rid is a flavor. It ain't Freu punch, It's rid. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:29.640 So allegedly, daniel through a glass picture at Jennifer Aiden 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.400 and all hell broke blues, and it was very bad. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:41.319 And that's when it was allegedly decided that these women 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.600 just cannot be in the same room. Do you think 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.640 it was a smart decision to cancel it, or do 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:53.160 you think these ladies would have had the opportunity to 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.319 address it and maybe move on from something so severe. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.080 I don't know if I have faith they would have 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.040 moved on. I don't from that perspective. And like in 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:05.080 terms of just like the potential for resolution, I kind 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.200 of think that they're correct and that there's probably no 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.760 chance for a real resolution here. I don't really buy 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.840 that they that they made that decision back then, especially 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.679 if you're saying, you know, they're apparently supposed to they 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.840 are supposed to quote unquote film it this month, Like 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.840 that means that to me, it was a more recent decision. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.280 And that's why I personally think that the whole thing 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.920 with Jennifer Aiden and maybe Teresa and like the fan accounts, 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.920 like all of that stuff that's been bubbling up. I 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.640 think that that is like a really bad look for 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.240 kind of everybody, like not even singly, just like kind 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.240 of everybody involved. It's like not the best look, and 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.800 that it breaks the fourth wall and like a really 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.040 kind of like I don't know what the word is, 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.360 but it bakes the forth wall in a way that 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.240 like we don't like that, or the network does not 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:48.719 like you know what I mean, And I think that 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.360 I and that's been a more recent development. I think 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.440 that that actually had something to do with the runion 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.480 getting canceled, because that's the way they don't want to 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.079 give any air to you know what I mean, And 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.800 that's the way they they would have to talk about 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.600 I think that actually my hunch is at that had 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.440 a factor in the decision that they made. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.520 So no, I don't think that there would have been 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:09.400 a chance for a resolution. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.840 And but what I'm curious about, Carlos, and I'm wondering 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.520 what you're thinking about this that the People article and 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.800 then also the Page six article both sort of insinuated that, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.040 like there's a potential for like another way to wrap 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.440 up the season. You know, it's not it's like they 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.160 canceled the reunion, but like what is this quote like 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.320 other way that they would like resolve the season. My 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.800 only idea, and like I'm I would love to know 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.800 if you have another idea, is like that they would 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.000 just do what they do a bravocon, which is just like. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.960 Having two separate groups convene. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.360 I don't know what that would accomplish because we're not 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.800 because there's no conflict resolution there, but they could still 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.600 at least discuss what happened. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.160 I don't know, what do you think. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.480 I'm not mad at that. Actually, did you moderate a 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:54.800 Jersey panel? Gibson? 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.240 I moderated on a Jersey panel at the first at 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.280 the first Bravocon with So it wasn't the it wasn't 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 the Jersey panel, but it was Teresa and Dolores on 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.040 stage ten thirty am on the Sunday of Bravo Con 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.080 cooking Sunday Sauce. We literally cooking spaghetti and sauce while 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.040 I interviewed them. So that was five years ago. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.880 I love that, though, Okay, well, maybe we could have 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.400 you back doing that. Actually, because I love that, that 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.560 would be great. I'm not mad at that. You're right 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.800 page six, and people are reporting that the network is 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.320 in talks of doing something special to wrap up the season. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.280 One thing I will say, Bravo is by far one 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.360 of the best in the business, and the reason why 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.000 we all love Bravo is because the producer and the 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.400 network they're genius at giving us something different that we 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.440 never knew we needed until it fell into our laps. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.440 So I am curious what that can look like, I 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:55.360 agree with you. Is there a sort of separate you know, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.320 panel discussion, and by panel, I don't mean like, you know, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:05.280 the a freaking like election debate, you know, George Stephanopolis. Okay, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:11.360 can you imagine? I don't think George Stephanopolis honey with 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:19.120 Robert Roberts, Okay, like debating the Real Housewives. I'm gonna say, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.360 although seeing Teresa Melissa have a great debate would be 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:29.560 everything in my world, So that okay, But I agree 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.960 with you. Maybe there is like this separate but equal 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:38.720 conversation that Andy has with both camps if you really 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:43.360 want something iconic. Because I really enjoyed how Vanda Pump 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:50.800 Rules part through reunion finalized. When Andy showed the cast 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.120 for the first time the actual finale scene to get 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:59.040 their natural reaction, I thought that was super genius. I'm 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.920 gonna throw a bone out there and like, do what hell, Mary, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.840 you need to give Melissa and Teresa to just have 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.800 a final face off. And I think, in my opinion, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.199 I think, listen, I know Teresa personally, and one thing 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:20.520 about Teresa, she is a trooper and Teresa is professional. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.040 I'm not saying Melissa is not. I'm sure she is too. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:31.040 I think if it was a situation, Gibson where Melissa 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.760 and Teresa with Andy in the middle, this is it, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.440 this is it? What can you guys say to each 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:44.240 other because you guys did not speak at all? Because 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:49.159 my thing is this, conversations Gibson are very different when 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:54.159 you don't have the backings of your co stars and 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:59.800 your husbands, and your husbands who can be a just 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.720 diction and who can help you deflect. I think Andy 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.760 Cohen is the only person that can moderate a discussion 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:15.120 between Teresa and Melissa that would be satisfying to the 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.280 audience in terms of like, this is the end. It's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.879 the end. It's what we wanted to see Arianna and 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.159 Tom sand evolve. Do like have a conversation? Finally we 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.960 got some of that at the reunion and now that 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:32.320 shows on pauls rightfully. So, do you think that in 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.760 order for us to move on from this season, whatever 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.199 this idea is, do you agree that you must give 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.840 them a listen Teresa to have a final face off. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.119 I mean, I hadn't even thought about that, to be honest, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.199 I think I do agree they would have to be 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.240 literally like one on one on one that nobody else 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.479 could be there, because again there's two many I think 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.520 it'd be really interesting and really, I mean, I think 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.640 it would be a ratings juggernaut if it was literally 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.920 just those three in a room and that it's just them, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:03.960 it's it's it's it's. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:04.960 Not and it's not even a battle. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.560 I think would actually if they could present it almost 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.159 it's just sort of like literally a discussion, and you know, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:12.840 I think you said, like you know, this is it, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.280 you would have to I also think make the stakes 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.760 the same for both of them, which means I guess 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.920 that means like the implication is that like the show is. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.639 Moved, like they're moving on from the show after this. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.960 I don't know, because I feel like part of I mean, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.760 if you think about last reunion was when Teresa was like, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.080 I'll never see you again, like you're gonna basically you'll 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:33.680 be off the show. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:33.960 You know. 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:35.760 She said that she had that comment to Melissa, and 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.119 like that didn't happen, And so you can't have that 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.439 sort of power and balance either. I think for for 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.720 something like you just mentioned, to work, you know, I 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:47.000 think it really has to feel equal. Is that is 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.080 that possible to create an environment like that. I don't know, 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.320 but I mean I would. I would watch the hell 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.040 out of that. 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.439 That would be I think that's what it is. I 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.720 think I think it has to be that. I think 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:03.000 you also need listen. Bravo, if you're listening, take it. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.879 I'm fine with it. All good and you probably already 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.480 thinking this because you guys are so smart. I want 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.560 to see Melissa Teresa with Andy. That's it. That's it. 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.760 Final face Off Part three. 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:15.760 Nothing else, anybody else? 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.080 Part two Cliff Hanks for three. I also want to 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:19.480 see this. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:19.919 Uh. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.679 I want to see Andy and Jennifer eight in one 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.680 on one. Really I want him. There is this very 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.600 loud implication that he. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.280 Doesn't like Yeah, I've seen whispers of this. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.919 Yeah, yes, well, honey, it's not even whispers because Jennifer 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:42.080 has even intimated the same thing, right Like Jennifer has, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.320 I believe, commented on a pok. Have you seen this? 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:46.520 Like? 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:47.080 Made me think? 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.600 So? I will say, it's hard to keep up with everything, Jersey. 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.080 There's a lot of noise around it, but I have 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.080 seen something about this, yes, And. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.280 I think in order to have an epic finale to 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.320 this show, let's just lay everything out on the fucking table. 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.040 I want to see Jennifer aiden Andy just be like, 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:05.840 let's talk about it. I don't think you like me, 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.040 And he's like, why don't you think I like you? 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.080 And she can say whatever, But then he can also say, 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:20.920 let's talk about you allegedly giving fan accounts screeners. Because 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:25.480 one thing that I know about Andy, he is such 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:33.639 a producer's producer that he, like me, dislikes when you 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:38.560 compromise production. Sure, you like it's one thing that throws 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.199 shade at the girls, the cass whatever, we get it. 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.800 But when you implicate the integrity of the show. And 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:48.880 again I'm not saying Jennifer did. This is all alleged. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.840 This is all alleged, but I think it's such it's 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:56.560 such a dark cloud over this season exactly that to 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.159 not ever talk about it. I think it's bad. But 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.840 I think the only way to get around it is 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.440 if Jennifer talks to Andy one on one the way 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:09.960 Andy did to the artist formerly known as Raquel. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.680 Rachel, the artist artist formally known as FK. 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:23.560 Yes, Yes, Yes, I enjoyed the one on one chat 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.639 with Raquel because because for me, I think she's so 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:34.080 I'm sensitive and Timid that he knew rightfully so that 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.760 her amongst a large group getting all that venom would 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.000 not be mentally healthy for her. So I really enjoy 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.879 his one on one with her, and I think Jennifer 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:47.040 aiden and himstrap the one on one. I don't see 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.960 a world where Jennifer comes back. 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.240 I think she dug her Ungrave a little bit. 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.000 What do you think about all of that? Do you 0:22:58.119 --> 0:22:59.840 do you think that it's the end of the road 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:01.520 for Jennifer. 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.560 I mean, I think Jennifer has been great for the 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.439