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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about, and

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Speaker 1: rain drops on today's episode of Reality with King honay

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Speaker 1: Que the Sirens si Era. Yes, because no, we are

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Speaker 1: rain drops. We are talking about the Real Housewives of

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Speaker 1: New Jersey reunion being canceled and what that means for

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Speaker 1: this franchise. But first, I cannot do this alone. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with fan fave also somebody who is like worse

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Speaker 1: than me when it comes to like knowing Jersey. He's

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Speaker 1: like a Jersey magnet when it comes to the history

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Speaker 1: of not only this show, but all the Housewives and

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Speaker 1: the Bravo shows and me anymore. Give it up for Gibs.

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Speaker 2: And John's Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be back always

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Speaker 3: talking about Jersey with you.

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Speaker 1: I know no listen the last tie you were on, Honey,

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Speaker 1: the audience went wild because the beauty of me talking

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Speaker 3: I totally agree, and it's like I wish that we

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Speaker 3: could disagree more in this like online Housewives universe without

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Speaker 3: it getting ugly, you know. So you know, we can

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Speaker 2: Let's keep it that way.

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Speaker 3: And I also, I also I think it's good to

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Speaker 2: I'm really not. So there's that.

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Speaker 1: No, honey, you are very fair. We follow e Chuck

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. I love your reviews, I love your recaps,

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Speaker 1: and I love your point of views. And listen, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is sort of like what Joy Behar and Megan

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Speaker 2: I'm not Megan. I'm not calling I'm not Megan.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Megan. I'm that's my girl. I'm Meggant. You're

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Speaker 1: Joy Bayhar. Okay, so down, So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: great conversation. Who knows, maybe in the end, Gibson, you

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Speaker 1: and I will agree, Okay maybe maybe? Yes, yes, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: So breaking news, Gibson, The Real Housewives of New Jersey

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Speaker 1: where he is reporting that based on his source, they said,

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Speaker 3: Carlos, I just told you. I was at a Bacherette

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Speaker 3: It's like it's one of those things where like it

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Speaker 1: It only happened one time, Yes, and only one time

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Speaker 1: my sources did tell me, Gibson, because you brought up

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's doesn't that feel early too?

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Speaker 1: Well? This is the gag of the gagag Gass Gibson.

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Speaker 1: What I don't know is how many episodes Jersey has Now.

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Speaker 1: That happened, right, So rain drops. When you are doing

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Speaker 1: it's like fourteen episodes in a two or three part reunion.

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Speaker 1: Without those additional three or four episodes, Gibson, this season

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Speaker 1: We just watched what episode five? Last?

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, last night. The other thing, too, is normally

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I, I guess and the minority, Like,

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Speaker 3: and it's I've actually liked those scenes a lot, those

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Speaker 3: And and so I'm actually I know it's in the minority,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans have said this season is boring.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fans have just said they're not interested

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Speaker 1: What has also been reported is the fact that in

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Speaker 1: the finale episode allegedly brought this decision to its core

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Speaker 1: being reported that this big fight happens between Jennifer Aiden

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Speaker 1: older than you give sense I remember the commercials Okay,

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Speaker 1: so remember that little glass picture where you're red kool aid.

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Speaker 1: Because rid is a flavor. It ain't Freu punch, It's rid.

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Speaker 1: So allegedly, daniel through a glass picture at Jennifer Aiden

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Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I said, who the fuck found

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden, like, as somebody who worked on Jersey for

437
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Speaker 1: two seasons. Jersey is a hard show to cast, right,

438
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Speaker 1: And I remember calling the casting company giving them props, like,

439
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Speaker 1: kudos to you. I think what happened with Jennifer? Who?

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Speaker 1: I love who? I think she's a fantastic housewife and

441
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: she she she's great. I think to your point, she

442
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: sort of allowed the opinions and the loudness of the

443
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: audience to feed into her behavior outside of the show,

444
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: and it's sort of infiltrated on the show, and it's

445
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Speaker 1: just not something that you can continuously do with staying power.

446
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Speaker 1: And I think you bringing up Brandy Glanville is such

447
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: a good example because Brandy's fate was the day she

448
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: slapped Lisa Vanda Pump when they were in amste on

449
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: the boat and it was sort of like, you're your

450
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Speaker 1: great Brandy Glanvale set the ship on fire on Bibley

451
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Speaker 1: Hill's house.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's no denying.

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Speaker 1: No denying. And what what I need for my audience

454
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Speaker 1: to know this. When you are reality star, you're instantly famous,

455
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: you're instantly on the same level, and this is no

456
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Speaker 1: shade as some of these actresses in Hollywood in terms

457
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: of like just the level of fame. Garcel Bouvet has

458
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: said publicly that she's been famous her whole life, but

459
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Speaker 1: it wasn't until she got to her housewife that she

460
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I'm like really, I'm like room

461
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Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing, it's a lot. And I think Brandy

462
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: Glamville got caught up and like, this is my character,

463
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Speaker 1: this is my role. When she slapped band of Pumpbob

464
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: was like and through the drink at Eileen Gibson the

465
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Speaker 1: same season, So I think Jennifer Aiden got caught up

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Speaker 1: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's

489
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Speaker 1: get back into the show. There's rumors that Jersey may

490
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: receive the same fate as New York City. When New

491
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: York City Housewives Reunion got canceled, the show got put

492
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: on Paul's and then a big announcement happened where they

493
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: say we're going to reboot the entire show. We have

494
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: a whole new slew of women on New York. Do

495
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: you think that's going to happen to Jersey.

496
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: It's so hard to tell because.

497
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: On the one hand, you see kind of that some

498
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: of the fan reaction to Danielle and Rachel, who I

499
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: think at some point they were sort of being set

500
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: up to be the future of the show in some ways,

501
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Like the season opened with the foods and we saw

502
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: their whole extended family, and this is a family show, right,

503
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: so it was hard not to read into that a

504
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: little bit, at least for me to see of like, Okay,

505
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: maybe they're kind of positioning her to be next gen

506
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: Jersey basically, but the fans don't seem to like be

507
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: attached to them in the same positive way that they

508
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: might want if they're trying to reboot a show around

509
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: those two women, And it's it's like the idea of

510
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: saying goodbye to every single one of these women is

511
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: so I can't even comprehend it, you know, especially if

512
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: you look at like a gen Vessler, who liked to

513
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: me is on the trajectory of like she was a

514
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: friend of last season. Now she's like a really significant

515
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: friend of. She seems that she's poised to be a

516
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: housewife next season. But if they're cleaning house I don't know.

517
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: I think that would be a little bit disappointing, to

518
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: be honest, if they did complete overhaul. I do think

519
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: the show obviously needs a huge overhaul, but it's hard

520
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: not to see that parallel with New York. It's the

521
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: only other time this has ever happened, and they took

522
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: them all out, you know, and it's just Jersey is

523
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: really one, a one of one franchise, and it's imagining

524
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Speaker 3: Carlos imagining Jersey.

525
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: Without any of these women, Like what even is that?

526
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: What even is that? I don't Yeah, it's just hard

527
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: to see.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think? She'll say, and I'll tell you

529
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Speaker 1: my list.

530
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: Too, Okay, who do I think and who I want

531
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 2: are different?

532
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: I think, if you but but I think if I

533
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: think if what the network wants is to like really

534
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: kind of like start fresh, I think you kind of

535
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: have to take Teresa Moliss out of the equation because

536
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: there's too much history and there's too much passionate feeling

537
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: about both of them, both positively and negatively from different

538
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: sides of the fan base. I think, oh my god,

539
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: this is such a hard question. Jennifer Aiden. Again, I

540
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: think we talked about that. I don't see her continuing

541
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: on the show. I mean, I think maybe you reboot

542
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: around Buddha, Cabral and Fessler. I guess. I guess because

543
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: they're the new gen people. But again, I just don't

544
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: know if there's the investment in them yet for that

545
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: to really make sense. And I get that's sort of

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Speaker 3: where I'm landing. I guess right now, if I'm thinking

547
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Speaker 3: like they might be thinking, yeah, incomplete answer, but.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that was completely No. You pretty much said

549
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts are, in order to do a soft reboot,

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: keep Rachel, Danielle and Jim Fessler and then cast around them.

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Speaker 1: Because what you're saying is, obviously, if you want to

552
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: do a soft reboot, you can't do that with the

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00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: residue of tore.

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00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: You're putting into better words than I could.

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00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm following, following, I'm following. No, No, I got you, I

556
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: got you. I will always say this and people can say,

557
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Carlos get out of her ass, and that's fine. You

558
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: guys have been saying that, and some people have said, like, no,

559
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: we agree with you. I sneak my mind. I don't

560
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: give a ship if people disagree with it. I think

561
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: it's a fun debate again, call me Meghan, He's joy. Okay,

562
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: So I personally and professionally, because one thing about me Gibson,

563
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I can take away my feelings about people I know

564
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: personally and really looked as the viewer. Okay, I don't

565
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: know if I can watch Jersey without Teresa being in

566
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the mix. Similarly to how I don't think I could

567
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: ever watch Beverley Hills without Kyle.

568
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would look like. I think

570
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Speaker 1: I think every show, to me should have a season

571
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: one og on the cast. OC, for example, is having

572
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. OC for example, has had top three of

573
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: their best scenes is of all time. When Tamar Judge

574
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: came back, And although tamer Judge was a season two housewife,

575
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: nobody was watching season one of OC.

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Speaker 2: So you know she's a fact of og like Sonia

577
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: New York kind of thing.

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00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like technically yes, season two, but she

579
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: is one and two.

580
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Love them together right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. We'll call season one a soft pilot,

582
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: like come on, okay, so Tamra Judge coming back to

583
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Speaker 1: oh see, it just did something to that franchise and

584
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that show. Now and I can't wait

585
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: to see this upcoming season. So that's the reason why

586
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: for me, I just can't see the show without Teresa.

587
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: I think Melissa and Joe and listen, guys, I do

588
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: mean this when I say this. I think Melissa and

589
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: Joe are great reality stars as a couple, and I

590
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to do with them outside of

591
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: the show. My opinion, I think I think there's other

592
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: programs that they could be a part of where they

593
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: can stay in the Bravo family. I the thing about

594
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: Melissa and Teresa is this, every show has a force multiplier.

595
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: It's a safer word than saying queen bee, because no

596
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: woman does not want to think she's the Queen Bee

597
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: of the show. So I cannot If this is my opinion,

598
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I cannot see Melissa leading a show as the lead.

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: You know, I can't see it. It's sort of like

600
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: when the Supremes went away. Could you really see Martha

601
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: replacing Diana Ross? No, you need Diana Ross. And to me,

602
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Teresa is the Diana Ross of Jersey because of what

603
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: she's given to the show, and to me, she's the

604
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: face of it. And that's the only reason why my

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00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: list would include Teresa, Danielle, Rachel, and some new people.

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00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: And I think Jackie and Jen can remain friends of

607
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to see them full time, Okay, Yeah,

608
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I feel like i'd be friends.

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00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: I guess my my pushback to my my devil's advocate

610
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: point to the Teresa staying on thing is like, if

611
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna have one of them stay on, I completely

612
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: get base of the show, force multiplier, all those things,

613
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: but I do think that if you look at like

614
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: Teresa's recent track record with new people, it's not great,

615
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: and like it's like maybe for one season they're in

616
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: her corner and then they they see some sort of

617
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: something about her and they jump to the other side

618
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: of the coin. I do think Melissa, even though I

619
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: kind of see what you're saying in terms of like

620
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: leading a show, what would that look like? I think

621
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: she's much more open to new faces and new people

622
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: and welcoming them in in a more substantial way almost

623
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: that That's sort of how I look at it. But

624
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: so if you're gonna keep one of them, that's why

625
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm sort of.

626
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: Like, what, Okay, okay, who would you keep over Melissa?

627
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: To research? Melissa?

628
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for that reason.

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Speaker 3: For that reason because and I also think if you

630
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: if you really want to reboot the show, it's not

631
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: rebooting if you keep Treesa or Melissa.

632
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: Really, but.

633
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: What what is the what does reboot even mean if

634
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: you're keeping four people?

635
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

636
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Like I know, but this but that's why I had

637
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: to break it back to the OC. I think they

638
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: did a genius job when they brought Tamra Judge back,

639
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: because you had Shannon, Heather all forgot about Hew. You

640
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: had Heather, but.

641
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: Heather but had the difference that Heather needed Tamra to

642
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: really Heather needed Tamra and having an adversary that first

643
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: Tamer's first season back, because when Heather first came back

644
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: that one season, she was the force multiplier, queen Bee,

645
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: but she didn't have anybody that could reach her level,

646
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: who wasn't intimidated by her, that wasn't worshiping the ground

647
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: she washed right exactly, And so they she needed a

648
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: camera to really make her return work.

649
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: And that's I think also what we helped.

650
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Yea agree no, agree, agree for sure. It's so hard listen,

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00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's going to be very interesting. And and

652
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: and I and I will say this as well. I

653
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: think Teresa could have a spinoff. I would love to

654
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: see Teresa and the girls and her family and Louis

655
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and everybody and and sort of a car dashing in

656
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: or don't be tardy for the partying her life. I

657
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: think that would also be great. And then it's hard.

658
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's it's just it's just I get

659
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: exacerbated because it's like it's almost like it's an impossible

660
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: problem to solve. But and I the last thing I'm

661
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: gonna say is like about them is like for me,

662
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: it's hard now to divorce Teresa, Louis from Teresa, and

663
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: I Teresa on her own to me is different than

664
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Louis with Teresa. And I think Louis once he entered

665
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: the picture on this show, I think that's when like

666
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: things took a turn for the worse in terms of

667
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: the divide, in terms of sort of the ugliness behind

668
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: the scenes. That's sort of that's my opinion. And I

669
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: think that that that, to me, is part of the

670
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: reason why the women don't want to be in that

671
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: shared space. Personally, I think that he's a little he

672
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: has that same like sort of reckless I'll do anything

673
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: nature that that Jen has, but to honestly a more

674
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: intense state. I think so that I find him to

675
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: be tough.

676
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: This is what this is what I would also do

677
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: with Jersey. I think I think the man on the

678
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: show should take a back seat.

679
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, Carlos.

680
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: I think, okay, because when I worked on season one

681
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: and two, Season two, to me is the best Jersey season.

682
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: It's an amazing season.

683
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean we had Kim D, Kim G, Danny Boyd,

684
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: the security on a time to be alive, I mean,

685
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: I'll talk later. It was I mean Teresa chasing Danielle

686
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: do OKAYI legendary, legendary. The men were not on the

687
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: show every episode. I mean Albert Manzell was running the Brownstone,

688
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, hello, Joe Judais was too busy doing what

689
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: he was doing right. And then you had jack Oline's husband,

690
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Chris Loreta, who you never saw. He never wanted to speak.

691
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: It was it was Dan Yell to have a man right.

692
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't about the men. So my advice to would

693
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: be this whole bromance was cute. At one point, I'm over,

694
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Joe Gorga Frank Catania kissing

695
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: each other's ass with bunny ears, like, I don't want

696
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: to see that anymore. I don't care what the men think.

697
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I think John Feuda is hilarious. I think that whole

698
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: spat he happened Theresa to me was funny, but it

699
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: did come across a little thirsty. Yeah, house like, oh,

700
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: whatever you have been. It's like, but wait a second,

701
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: let your wife get some shy John Like.

702
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: It's like, why why is he having the second season

703
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: housewife glow up? As as as the husband of the housewife,

704
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: you know, like that's just too It's that just shows

705
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: you that they're too involved, you.

706
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: Know, yes, it just shows I don't I think the

707
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: other saving grace to the Jersey Show is limit the

708
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: men is I'm not into it anymore. I think I

709
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: think when you guys are at home and it's your husband, great.

710
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the brothers and the and

711
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: the homeboys at the restaurant or like playing sports. And please,

712
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: for the love of God, can we not shoot Delora's

713
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: charity baseball game. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. Dolores.

714
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I like you, by the way, and she knows that

715
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I love Laura.

716
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: I love Dolores so much.

717
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Do we keep God?

718
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe just rebooth the entire show on Dolores, like,

719
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: come on to me, Like to me seeing Dolores in

720
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: that scene that they showed at the very top of

721
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: the season from I think the finale, sitting there at

722
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: that table, glasses strewn everywhere, she looking, She's looking just

723
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: like an HBI C sitting at them. Like, to me,

724
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: that just felt right, you know, it just felt chills.

725
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: I love her, I loved I.

726
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Loved her too. I feel bad Dolores. You know I

727
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: love you. I'm so sorry you have to keep Dolores though.

728
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I made.

729
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: I mean, she's just a connector to me, She's a

730
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: connector and it's and it's authentic to me. It's it's

731
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: genuine that she people want her to pick sides. I

732
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: think that she actually authentically wants to be this way

733
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: that she is.

734
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: And she's a she's a she's a true.

735
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: I don't know, she sees the best in people in

736
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: a way that I just believe and and I just like.

737
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: That about her.

738
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: I really do.

739
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Okay, my list has changed and I'll move on okay, Dolores,

740
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, so my new list Oh gosh, Teresa, Dolores.

741
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: And Dad yell wow.

742
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but bye, by the way, by the way,

743
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: by the way, as we get into recapping Sunday's episode,

744
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: I have.

745
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: One word for Rachel Feuda and what is that word? Finally, okay,

746
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: she stepped out the shadows of her listen. I like

747
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: it when someone can stand up for themselves absolutely, And

748
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: my issue with Rachel the first two episodes was, Honey,

749
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: your husband is wearing a true religion mini skirt and

750
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to need him to hand it back up

751
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: at Envy or box it up and ship it to

752
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Antonia's College because he is taking your spot.

753
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, not the skirt, Carlos.

754
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Gibson, Jane Feuda was wearing a mini skirt.

755
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: At least I'd have said double sided dil do?

756
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, give yourself some credit. Yeah, at least

757
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: you didn't say that.

758
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. By the way, can someone

759
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: sponsored my podcast with double sided dil dos? You guys

760
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: are like sleeping on me. Okay, anyway, I want to

761
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: promote you guys, seriously, Okay, I I thought Rachel was funny.

762
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I thought she listen. I thought she was brave. I

763
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: thought she was hilarious. I thought like, okay, girl, get activated.

764
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: I was here for it. But that's what happens when

765
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: the husbands aren't in the scene. What did you think

766
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: about that epic the inner scene?

767
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great scene overall.

768
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: I think I think some of the comments and accusations

769
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: being made sort of across the table, some of them

770
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: rang a little hollow or like fell a little flat.

771
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: But the delivery was great.

772
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: So I'm like, you know what, I'll take this, you

773
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, like I think Rachel saying

774
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: to Teresa, like, you know, you went to prison and

775
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: you haven't built anything for yourself, Like that's just kind

776
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: of objectively not true. You know, she raised four dollars

777
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: on her own and sent them to college and is

778
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 3: rebuilt her life. Like you can't take that away from her.

779
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: That's just that's just an amazing accomplishment. But then like

780
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: vice versa, it's like Teresa like she just kind of

781
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: was just like calling her like too young and immature,

782
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, well that's not really like the yeah,

783
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: it's not really a read, you know what I mean.

784
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: And then she kind of pulled herself out of the

785
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: situation with the gift box, which I'm glad you took

786
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: her took her gift box. So yeah, and like so

787
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: I thought that, like some of the back and forth

788
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: was great, some of it didn't really work, but like overall,

789
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: all of them airing in their shit out and like

790
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: having it having it not cross the line, it shows

791
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: they can still have still do that. You know, it

792
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: shows they can still they can still spar in a

793
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: way that that is watchable.

794
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: To me.

795
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was a very watchable final scene of

796
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: the episode.

797
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, no could not agree more. I really, I

798
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: watch it twice because gods, we're not watching Housewives to

799
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: understand who is leading the primary in the election now, No,

800
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: like we we love a dinner scene. The quintessential Housewives

801
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: scene is a dinner scene with the women. To the point,

802
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, Gibson, as a former Housewives producer,

803
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, whenever the girls knew they

804
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: were having dinner, they would say, oh fuck, whose turn

805
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: is it tonight?

806
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean they still.

807
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: They every housewife knows when they're about to have dinner,

808
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: they all say to each other. That's why if you so, guys,

809
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: if you ever watch a dinner scene, pay close attention

810
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: to what happens at the beginning. They all look kind

811
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: of nervous and on edge and on alert. Always watch

812
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: the beginning when they when they how's it going? Oh hey,

813
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: they're not like, hey, my god, you look great. Yes,

814
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: they all are like hey, because they they all are

815
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: figuring out who is going to be in the hot

816
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: seat tonight.

817
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: They're all miss Juicy walking and being like, hey, hell,

818
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: y'all do Yes, that's the.

819
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: Little Women's fan I live for you. Yeah, that's exactly

820
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: what it is. So I enjoyed it. That's why I'm

821
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: watching Housewives. I want to see that moment you made

822
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: it up point earlier that I want to get back

823
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: to baby. I'm here for Jackie. Go Schneider, I mean

824
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: what happened? Because I still don't know yet. Maybe come

825
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: out later this season. You were right, Melissa, Margaret and

826
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: Jackie had this sisterhood best a friend. Margaret and Jackie

827
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: were like.

828
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: Two peas in a post and it was real and

829
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: it was real. They would like to me it was

830
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: a real sisterhood too. That's what makes it, That's what

831
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: makes their reaction so strong to Jackie flipping.

832
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: Why did Jackie quote unquote flip.

833
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: I don't think we fully know.

834
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 3: I think it has way more to do with Margaret.

835
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: It's definitely Margaret focus. I think she's even said this

836
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: in an interview recently. I want to say she was

837
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: like Melissa and I barely had any problems this season.

838
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: It's more she's.

839
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: Just more kind of in Jackie's words, she's calling Melissa

840
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 3: sort of a mouthpiece from Margaret, and like that sort

841
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: of her view of it.

842
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: But I think, you.

843
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: Know, it remains to be seen sort of what Jackie's

844
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: true reasoning is, right, But I do think that from

845
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: Melissa and Margaret's side, you can't take the show out

846
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: of what Jackie's doing, even if there are some genuine,

847
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: real reasonings and emotions coming from Jackie's side of like

848
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: maybe Margaret wasn't good enough friend, or she was too

849
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: demanding as a friend, or did something or spread something

850
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: about her. Who knows, But I think it's kind of

851
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: hard to not read Jackie's movement this season as not

852
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: having to do with Okay, let me mix it up

853
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: let me because last season she was a friend, she

854
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: was demoted to a friend of last season didn't get

855
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: that much screen time other than her feud with Danielle,

856
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: like that didn't really go anywhere. Then we get into

857
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: this season, it's like, okay, and again I'm not this

858
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: is this is not even criticism. It's kind of I admire,

859
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: like somebody mixing it up for the show. And she's

860
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 3: sort of like, what would be unexpected. Oh, that's sort

861
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: of how I think you have to That has to

862
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 3: be a factor in my personal opinion, because again, Jackie

863
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: wants to keep the paycheck, she wants to keep the job.

864
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: That's not a criticism, that's just kind of a fact

865
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: of all of them. So but I think that that's

866
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 3: what makes Margaret and Melissa's reactions kind of so strong.

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Speaker 3: They're they're seeing what she's doing, She's moving towards this side.

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Speaker 3: These people that I mean, Jackie and Teresa, I mean

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Speaker 3: they've had two huge I mean Jackie's first season when

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Speaker 3: she brought up the prison thing, like in her second

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Speaker 3: episode or whatever that was, Remember that her and Teresa

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Speaker 3: got out of it, got after it, and then the

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Speaker 3: whole thing about the rumor about Evan and calling calling

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Speaker 3: the daughter the sea word, and like all these things.

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Speaker 2: It's like that, how can you just like a race,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I win exactly.

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Speaker 3: Those were real, Those were real, deep feelings that Jackie

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00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: held about Teresa, and they both kind of did low

880
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: blows about each other. So it's sort of like, I

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00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: believe Jackie's done self work. I believe she's done healing

882
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: and kind of gotten past maybe some of the petty

883
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: or stuff, but that was deep, you know, and to

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00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: just kind of like wipe that to the side and

885
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Speaker 3: for the season, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I listen, Jackie, I had no idea you had it

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Speaker 1: in you. I love a calculated housewife, baby, because the

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00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: thing is this, to Gibson's point, it's a paycheck baby. Yeah.

889
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys aren't on the show. I mean

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00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of you are just to be famous because

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00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all already have money. But I think

892
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: once you get a taste of housewife fame, because there's

893
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: a difference between reality fame and the housewife fame. Yeah,

894
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: housewife fame, you're famous in twenty four hours. It's instant.

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Diana Jenkins, I mean it was she That's why that's

896
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: why she said, fuck the show. I'm getting away from

897
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Housewives. I'm gonna hang out with Elton John.

898
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm super rich. I thought it would be fun. The

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00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: moment you realize you guys are this insane at most

900
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: times when it comes to your obsession over every detail

901
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: of my life. You could be famous on NAJD Fiance. Honey,

902
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: it ain't the same with.

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00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: It's not the same.

904
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 3: Different different ballparks, different different and not just different games,

905
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: different stadiums. Yeah, one a stadium, one to an arena

906
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: like it's and the difference is that it's also like

907
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: a potentially lifelong thing can be a decade long thing,

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00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: you know, it can be a house I staying lasts

909
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: a long time. Once you have that label, you can

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00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: ride that out for a long time. We've seen a

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: million people do it, you know, and I uh on

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Speaker 3: the one how you got You got to admire Jackie

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00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: for for changing up for herself and kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of clinging to it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm fine with that. And that's the reason

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Speaker 1: why again, Rachel Fuda, congratulations, you entertain me. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: one thing I can say to you, Rachel, because I

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Speaker 1: know Teresa personally. Teresa loves somebody who can give her

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00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: a good fight. I promise you she's She's Teresa's attitude

920
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: gibs and is bring it like, bring it to me,

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00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: respect it. She respects it. She respects a person who

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Speaker 1: can stand up to her. So, Rachel, great job is

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Speaker 1: the reason why she can now coexist with Jackie after

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00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: what you mentioned earlier their spat because she always respected

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00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: that this bess Jackie just won't go down like fuck

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00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: a cock road, you can't stop on our killer. She

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Speaker 1: rise like a phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Didn't you die at that little scene where they're getting

929
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 3: massages or facials or whatever it was, and they're calling

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Speaker 3: Jackie and then they hang up in Teresa's like, let

931
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Speaker 3: me follow her again.

932
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: That was funny. That was really funny.

933
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Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, guys, housewives is a sport. Yes,

934
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Speaker 1: I always said this to you, but y'all read me, Carlos. No,

935
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: they're a lot of these women are not friends in

936
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: real life. It's an alliance. It's an alliance about how

937
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: can we coexist on this show because you can easily

938
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: get fired, and a lot of these women never think

939
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: that they will come, but they are afraid it will come,

940
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Speaker 1: and like Gibson said, they'll do whatever they can't to

941
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Speaker 1: make themselves relevant for the show. So when Teresa say,

942
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Speaker 1: let me just follow her cause again, you would think

943
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the words that Teresa and Jackie said to each other

944
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: would like submit totally ability. But Teresa is sort of like,

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Speaker 1: I respect a broad who can give it to me

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Speaker 1: and I can give it back to her again. Rachel,

947
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Speaker 1: you did that, John, let your wife be the wife,

948
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Speaker 1: and I'll end it with that. Okay, give said this

949
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: was a great We kind of agreed on a lot

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00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: of stuff.

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, kudos to both of us.

952
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: Of us honestly, so I like that for us.

953
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Speaker 3: I love that I feel like and I feel like ultimately,

954
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Speaker 3: last thing I'll say is just like the future of Jersey.

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00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: It's like, understandably such a big question mark, and I

956
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: don't think there's one right answer to how.

957
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Speaker 2: To fix it.

958
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Speaker 3: I really don't, But I do think it's undeniable that

959
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: needs fixing. But I well, going back to what we

960
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: talked about the very top, I'm not as I'm not

961
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Speaker 3: as down on this season as a lot of people

962
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Speaker 3: seem to be. I think there's things to be intrigued by,

963
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Speaker 3: there's things things to be entertained by.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not writing it off.

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Speaker 3: Even though we might not get any sort of reunion

966
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Speaker 3: thing whatever, I'm not writing it off.

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Speaker 2: And I like a lot of these women, I really do.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with I'm with you and listen. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, we'll get something. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: guys keep watching The Real Housewahs New Jersey every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock, seven Central on BravoTV, because again, we're going

973
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: to get something. It may not be a traditional reunion,

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Speaker 1: but we will get something to satisfy our taste. Bud,

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