1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Good Wednesday morning. Nice to have you with us. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: It's verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: and Senator We're gonna get some redows on some cover 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: ups on the Democratic Party. Apparently this is gonna be 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: music to many people's ears on accountability. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: Well, the FBI has announced three brand new investigations on 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: stories that just broke, things that just happened yesterday. So, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 3: just yesterday, cocaine was found in the White House. Just yesterday, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: there was a secret leak from the Supreme Court of 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: a decision the court had not yet issued. It was 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: a decision overturning Roe versus Weight. It was shocking, it 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: was incredible, and I'll tell you the FBI was on it. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: And just yesterday, unbelievably, a pipe bomb was planted outside 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: the DNC. It was on the day of the certification 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: of what ended up being the certification of Joe Biden's presidency. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: And all three of these, understandably when they occur, they 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: were major news stories, horrific crimes, grotesque violation of laws. 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: So of course the FBI devoted all of the resources 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: to discover nothing. Well, we have a new FBI, We 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: have a new DJ, And now the FBI and DJ 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: is going back to do what they should have done 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: years ago when these stories actually happen. They're going to 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: go investigate and I hope they're gonna find find that 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: the wrong doers, find the criminals, prosecute them, and put 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: them in jail. Also, we're going to look into recent 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: comments and actions by the former head of the FBI, 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: that crack law enforcement official who managed not to investigate, uh, 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: those crimes. We just talked about James Comy, who who 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 3: spent the entire Trump presidenc here much of the Trump presidency, 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: undermining the President of the United States, attacking the President 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: of the United States until finally he was rightly fired. 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: He's made some comments that are that are nothing short 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: of shocking. Uh and and and he is effectively called 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: for the assassination of the President of the United States. 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: You might think that as hyperbole, but we're going to 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: break down exactly what James Comey did. And and finally, 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about a lawsuit that NPR has filed. NPR, 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: National Public Radio, has filed a lawsuit saying that President 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Trump trying to cut off taxpayer funding for their wildly partisan, biased, 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: dishonest reporting. Well, their allegation is that not paying for 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: that wildly dishonest partisan reporting violates the First Amendment to 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: the Constitution, that the First Amendment mandates that you and 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: I and all of us pay for NPR's lying. We're 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: going to explain that the the absolute nonsense of that lawsuit, 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: and and we're going to we're going to get into 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: the details right now. 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really an incredible story. 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: Let me tell you real quick about the International Fellowship 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: of Christians and Jews. And you're seeing something that's really 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: shocking and disturbing. It's anti Semitism, and it's on the rise, 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: not just around the world, but sadly right here in 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: the US. 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All right, so center, let's talk about 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: And you had some humor there in the in the 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: lead up to this topic, because it is insane that 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: we had these three massive investigations that got us no information. 81 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Everybody just moved on. 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: In the last administration and the opening up of these investigations. 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Yet again by the FBI. 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: I don't think this should be looked at is a 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: issue of like revenge. It's an issue of just is 86 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: it clearly didn't happen and was covered up in the past. 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: Well understand that when you're dealing with the politicization and 88 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI and 89 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: the law enforcement apparatus, there are two components of it. 90 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: One component of it is using it as a weapon 91 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: to attack your political opponents. We saw Joe Biden the 92 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: Democrats do that over and over and over again, most 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: notably when they indicted Donald Trump, not once, not twice, 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: not three times, four separate times. That was a clear 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: illustration of weaponization. It was designed ultimately to fight democracy. 96 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: It was designed because they were terrified the voters would 97 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: do what in fact they did in November re elect 98 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: Donald J. 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: Trump as President of the United States. 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: But there's another aspect of weaponization, and that is refusing 101 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: to investigate crime, refusing to enforce the law against your 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 3: friends and political allies, and we saw the Biden Department 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: of Justice, the Biden FBI do that over and over 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: and over again. And these three cases are among the 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: most egregious. You know you're and my friend Dan Bongino. So, 106 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: Dan Bongino is now the Deputy Director of the FBI. 107 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: Cash Fortells, the Director of the FBI. Dan tweeted out 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: this week the following a few updates, the Director and 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: I have most of our incoming reform teams in place 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: by next week. The hiring process can take a little 111 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: bit of time, but we are approaching that finish line. 112 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: This will help us both in doubling down on our 113 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: reform agenda. Shortly after swearing in, the Director and I 114 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: evaluated a number of cases of potential public corruption that 115 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: understandably have garnered public interest. We made the decision to 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: either reopen or push additional resources and investigative attention to 117 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: these cases. These cases are number one, the DC pipe 118 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: bombing investigation, Number two the cocaine discovery at the prior 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: administration's White House, and number three the leak of the 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: Supreme Court Stops case. I receive requested briefings on these 121 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: cases weekly and we are making progress if you have 122 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: any investigative tips on these matters that may assist us, 123 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: then please contact the FBI. That is really significant, and 124 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: and and and by the way, I'm I'm gonna add 125 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: a fourth one that is not in this tweet, but 126 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 3: it is something that both Cash Battel and Don Bongino 127 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: and also Pambondi have committed to, which is transparency regarding 128 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. And I will say that Jeffrey Epstein sex 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: trafficking case was grotesque. I think the American people need 130 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: to know every name in that little black book. I 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: think they need to know the clients. I think they 132 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: need to know everyone who participated uh in in in 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: the child sex trafficking. And I do believe I've had 134 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: multiple conversations with Pambondi, with Cash Patel, with Dan Bongino 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: about it. I do believe we will see transparency. I 136 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: know a lot of people are frustrated that we haven't 137 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: seen all that information yet. My understanding from those conference 138 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: conversations is on Epstein, there is a vast trove of information, 139 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: much of which implicates miners. And what I've been told 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: is that is they are working to put it in 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: a format where it can be released where you don't. 142 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: Where you don't release, say, video of a miner being 143 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: sexually assaulted, which would obviously be inappropriate for protecting that child, 144 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: a little boy or girl should not have that image 145 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: released by the government for the world. But at the 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: same time, the assaulter, the criminal, his image should be released. 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: And I have every expectation we will see transparency on 148 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: that front, and I will continue asking both of the 149 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Department of Justice and FBI to provide transparency and pressing 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: them to do so as fast as possible. But on 151 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: these three cases as well. Look, let's take him one 152 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: at a time. Cocaine in the West wing of the 153 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: White House? All right, Ben, you worked in the West Wing. 154 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: Tell me how big a deal would it be when 155 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: you worked to the George W. Bush White House. Can 156 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: you imagine the reaction if cocaine were found in that 157 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: White House? 158 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: No, And it would have been a wall to wall story, 159 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: and it would have been twenty four to seven, and 160 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: the media would have dug and dug and dug and 161 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: demanded answers, and they would not have let up until 162 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: they had a name or someone who had been fired 163 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: or dismissed, and they would have also been I think 164 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: tmz'ed it where they would have said, how many people 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: are high at the White House, how many people are 166 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: around the Situation Room, which, by the way, this cocaine 167 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: was not far from the stories would have exploded to 168 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: hurt Ben Jordan's bush. 169 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: Ben, explain to people where this work, where this was, 170 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: because you said it wasn't far from the situation room, 171 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: You're right, But get people a sense of the layout 172 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: of the West Wing and where's. 173 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: Thatchly this was. 174 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: If you walk in the West Wing from basically the 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: EEO be the Old Executive or the Eisenhower Building, there's 176 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: kind of a breezeway and when you walk in there. 177 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: For you, I want to stop you for a second. 178 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: There is an interesting divide in Washington, and you can 179 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: tell how long someone has been in Washington by what 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: acronym you use, and you actually just use both of them. 181 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a bill ridging the gap there, did you? 182 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: I did? 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: But I want to explain it to our listeners because 184 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: this is this is a very insidery little thing, but 185 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: it is kind of funny and it's real. So there's 186 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: a giant building right next to the White House, that 187 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: is the Executive Office Building, And a lot of the 188 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: offices that are said to be quote in the White 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: House are actually in that building. That building is much 190 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: bigger than the White House and is part of the 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: White House campus. So when you enter the White House grounds, 192 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: if you're walking up Executive Avenue, on the right is 193 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: the West Wing. On the left, it is the Executive 194 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: Office Building. Now, the folks who have been in DC 195 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: a long time, they call that the OEO B. 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Why is that? 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: That stands for the Old Executive Office Building. 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: So the O is OEO B. 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: And at some point, and I don't know what year, 200 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: actually maybe when we're talking you can google it and 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: give us the answer, Bend. But at some point they 202 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: renamed the building the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. They put 203 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: up a sign that says Eisenhower Executive Office Building. And 204 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: so now it's called EO B. And you can tell 205 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 3: people who I would say, have been to d C 206 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: in the last decade or two they call it the 207 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: EO B and old farts. And you're actually young enough, 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: you're not fully an old fart exactly. 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take pride in that, by the way, and 210 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: by the way, I can tell you when they changed 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: the name. 212 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? 213 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: I heard you typing when I said use the Google. 214 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: You click clacked on your keyboard, so I knew you 215 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: had an answer. 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: Yes. 217 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: President Bill Clinton approved legislation changing the name on November 218 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: the ninth of nineteen ninety nine from the old Executive 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: Office Building, too, was renamed the Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive 220 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Office Building. So there you go, ninety nine, November ninth. 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: So that's just a quick aside, and you can really 222 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: tell someone's So. 223 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: Look, I came to d C. 224 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: I was a law clerk in d C in nineteen 225 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: ninety five to ninety six, and then I was a 226 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: law clerk at the Supreme Court in ninety six to 227 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: ninety seven. And so when I first moved there, it 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: was called the OEO B. So I'm just barely on 229 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: the old old fart line of it. You said it 230 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: was renamed in nineteen ninety nine, so you're very much 231 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: on the young fart nine line of it. 232 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: And yet I like that you use them both. 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a it's a cool building. And you 234 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: can also all we always we always used to laugh 235 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: because you can always tell who was full of it, 236 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: and who was lying if they said they worked in 237 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: the White House and then they actually worked in the EOB. 238 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I called on a second like, wait, wait are they are? 239 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: They are they flexing saying that they work in the 240 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: West Wing when they really don't because ninety nine percent 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: of the staff does not work in the actual White House. 242 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Yes, say works EO B. 243 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: And so the White House itself, you've got a lot 244 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: of the White House that's like a museum and that 245 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: has beautiful rooms and you have tours going through it, 246 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: and it's it's it's a quasi public area. You've got 247 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: the residence, which is upstairs and that's where the president 248 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: of the First Family lives. And then you have the 249 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: West Wing, which is where the senior offices working for 250 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: the president are. And the West Wing is not very big. 251 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: It's no, it's tiny. It's three stories. You've got a basement, 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: you've got a first floor and second floor. The offices 253 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: are not very big. Actually, the OEO B offices are 254 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: much bigger than the West Wing offices. But in the 255 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: White House, power and prestige is measured by one thing, 256 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: and that is proximity to the president. Proximity to the 257 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: Oval Office, and so a tiny little closet next to 258 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: the Oval is much more prestigious than a huge, grand office. 259 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you something funny, Ben. So you 260 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: know the little office off the West wing where Bill 261 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: Clinton did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Yes, 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, for those of you be all 263 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 3: too young to remember Bill Clinton, when he was accused 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: of having oral sex with an intern, Monica Lewinsky, he 265 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: said to press conference, I did not have sexual relations 266 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: with that woman, miss Lewinsky. That was turned out to 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: be a flat out lie because he did. There's a 268 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: little room off the West wing where those interactions occurred. 269 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: Do you know what Donald Trump has turned it into. 270 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: So I know this, it's a night and a half. 271 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: It's the trinket room. 272 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: Now. If he likes you and he says, come over here, 273 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: you can get you some swag from the Oval Office. 274 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: Like he's got maga hats in there, he's got presidential 275 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: cuff links, he's got all sorts of it. He just 276 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: goes and says, take whatever you like, and there's just 277 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: like a bunch of stuff and it's really cool. So 278 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: so he's got he doesn't have those in the swag room. 279 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: But but but he also has Have you seen Trump's 280 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: challenge coins? 281 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: They're incredible. 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: You So when you went into the Oval recently, you 283 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: you got a couple coming back and I got to 284 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: see him. 285 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: They're amazing and they're huge. 286 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: So, so a challenge coin, for those of y'all who 287 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: are not familiar, a challenge coin is a tradition both 288 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: in the military and in law enforcement. And so when 289 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: you when you meet with with typically senior officers of 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: the military, they'll have a challenge coin that that that 291 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: that that is branded with their unit, with their battalion, 292 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: and and they'll give it to you. And there's a 293 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: whole culture of like having to present your challenge coin 294 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: and if you don't have it, having to buy drinks. 295 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: And so in my office, I have a whole display 296 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: behind my desk of probably one hundred and fifty challenge 297 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: coins that have been given to me by military leaders 298 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: across the country, across the world. That's behind my desk, 299 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: and then in front of my desk on the other 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: end of the office is a display with challenge coins 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: from law enforcement. And so it's a similar thing police officers, sheriffs, 302 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: police chiefs, firefighters federal law enforcement will have challenge coins 303 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: and they give them and usually they're about the size 304 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: of a silver dollar and they're elaborate. Well, Trump has 305 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: made these presidential challenge coins that are about the size 306 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: somewhere between the size that the diameter of a baseball 307 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: and a softball. I think they're a little bigger than 308 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: a baseball, but not quite as big as a softball. 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: And they're gorgeous. 310 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: And of course Trump's challenge coin is bigger, because how 311 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: would it be otherwise. 312 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 313 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: And that's the part about I do say, people that 314 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: go to the Oval office and get to meet with him, 315 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're gonna leave with, including 316 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: I will say his cup links. I got a pair 317 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: in the first in the forty five years. You got 318 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: the new pair from forty seven. I'm very jealous because 319 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: they are absolutely beautiful. 320 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 321 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: So, anyway, where the cocaine was found is right as 322 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: you walk into the entrance of the West Wing. By 323 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: the way, that entrance is where Trump now parks his 324 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: brand new Tesla. It's literally parked right up front. So 325 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: I tweeted out a picture. It's because I've never seen 326 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: a car of the president. Like when you become president, 327 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: they take your car keys and they don't let you drive, 328 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: and you're driven around in the beast. And so his 329 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: cars parked right up front. Now, actually they don't let 330 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: Trump drive either, so he doesn't get to drive his tesla. 331 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: And so I'm told a staffer about once a week 332 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: has to drive the tesla like several times around the block. 333 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: So it just so it doesn't die entirely. 334 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: That's not a bad job, by the way, if you 335 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: get that job. 336 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, you walk in that entrance there 337 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: and where they found the cocaine. It is probably I 338 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: don't know, thirty to forty feet away from the door 339 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: to the situation room. Because when you walk in the 340 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: west wing, your lockers are to the left where you 341 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: put your phones up. Traditionally that's where they found this 342 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: cocaine was over in that area. You go straight for 343 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: ten twelve feet, you go to your right, and then 344 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: right down there is a little area we can get 345 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: food and turn to drink, and immediately to your right 346 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: is where you walk in to the situation room. I 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: gets right there. Like the idea that cocaine was found 348 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: in the White House, it should have been like hell 349 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: to pay, and no one stopped reporting on the story 350 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: until somebody was arrested. 351 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: So look, I am very glad the FBI is going 352 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: to investigate that. You take in another case, January sixth, 353 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department spent thousands and thousands of man hour, 354 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: spent enormous money investigating every little old lady on the 355 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: mall waving a flag singing God bless America. They treated 356 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: those poor little old ladies like they were Osama bin 357 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: lad and the actual terrorist who plants a pipe bomb 358 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: outside the DMC. Look, if you plant a pipe bomb 359 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: that can blow up people and murder people, there's a 360 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: word for that. You are a terrorist if you're planning 361 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: a pipe bomb. There is video of this dude planning 362 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: the pipe bomb. And yet we've had four plus years 363 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: transpire and we know nothing about the actual terrorist who 364 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: planted a pipe bomb that could have killed multiple people. 365 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: It was actually it was found before it exploded, thank god, 366 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: but it could have been. It could have resulted a 367 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: serious loss of life if it hadn't. I'm very glad 368 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: that they're finally investigating that. 369 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: And then. 370 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: An action PAUSO would ask your gut on this one. 371 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: Why was it not investigating. 372 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I really look. There's conspiracy theories online. 373 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: Some of them have to do with FBI informants under 374 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: cover agents in the crowd on January sixth. As you know, 375 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: I've questioned the FBI and the Department of Justice multiple 376 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: times about the informants they had underground. They refused to 377 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: make that public. I'll tell you. I also have urged 378 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: Pambondi and Cash Betel to make that public. 379 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: I hope that. 380 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: They do, that they engage in radical transparency. 381 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 382 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: I find it weird because it is the action on 383 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: that day that could have resulted in the greatest loss 384 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: of life had the pipe bomb detonated. I mean, it's 385 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: on a busy public street where people are walking by 386 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: every minute. It could have killed multiple people, and we 387 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: don't know, and so all sorts of people, I mean, 388 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: the Twitter and the Internet speculates like crazy. I'm not 389 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: interested in speculation. I would like to find out who 390 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: actually planted it, why, and I'd like them to go 391 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: to jail. And I hope listen. I'm encouraged by Dan 392 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: Bongino's post on X that we are making progress. I 393 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: hope that we can find out who did it. We 394 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: will say of the three, ironically, the one that is 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: the most consequential, I think is the third one, which 396 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: is the leak of the Supreme Court's Dobs case. 397 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: And it is hard to. 398 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: Overstate how much damage that leak did, not just to 399 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court of the United States. 400 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: But but also to the rule of law. 401 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: The way the Supreme Court operates, Justices deliberate on cases, 402 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: They circulate opinion drafts back and forth. They change opinion drafts. 403 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: A given opinion, particularly in a consequential opinion, can change 404 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: one hundred times or more. They're literally negotiating every sentence 405 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: over every footnote. 406 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: And in two. 407 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: Hundred and nearly fifty years of our nation's history, never 408 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: once has a draft of an opinion of the Supreme 409 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: Court been leaked until the Dobs case. And it did 410 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: I think, irreparable damage to the trust between the justices, 411 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: the ability of the justices to have candor with each other, 412 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: and the person who leaked it. At the end of 413 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: the day, it is a really small universe of people 414 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: who would have access to that draft opinion. It is 415 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: essentially the justices, and I refuse to believe a justice 416 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: did that unless you had irrefutable proof. I have too 417 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: much faith in the institutions of our country to believe 418 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: a justice did it. I believe it was very likely 419 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: a law clerk at a law clerk from one of 420 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the liberal justices. But look, there are only thirty six 421 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: law clerks. There are not that many, and I am confident, 422 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: having been one of them myself, these people are not 423 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: master criminals. They are not incredibly adept at hiding their tracks, 424 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: and so I think we did not get a thorough 425 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: investigation into it. And of the three, if I could 426 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: pick one to be solved, it would be finding the 427 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: leaker of the Dobs opinion, prosecuting him or her and 428 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: locking them up, because I think that did lasting damage 429 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: to the rule of law in this country. 430 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: This is again goes back to the basic issue of 431 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: law and order, and this is something that this administration 432 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: keeps saying over and over again, like they're not joking. 433 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: They're going to treat everyone the same, and we're going 434 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: to look at things through the glasses of law and 435 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: order instead of picking winners and losers based on politics. 436 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 3: Well, yes, and that is unless the head of the 437 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: FBI is calling for the murder of the president of 438 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: the United States, And that is another story that broke 439 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: in the last few days. So the former FBI director 440 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: James Comy, he tweeted out this this image, and it 441 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: is an image of seashells on the beach that spell 442 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: out eighty six forty seven. Now forty seven is obviously 443 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and eighty six on the face of it, 444 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: to eighty six someone is standard slang for killing someone. 445 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: And as I posted on social media, is there any 446 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: other reasonable interpretation of this other than the former head 447 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: of the FBI publicly calling for the murder of the 448 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: president of the United States, and Comy backed away from it. 449 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: I got to say, part of the reason I think 450 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: he put it out is he's got a new book 451 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: coming out and he wanted some attention. But it is 452 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: unimaginable that a head of the FBI would be particularly 453 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: a president who has had two assassination attempts. This is 454 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: not theoretical. Donald Trump was shot. He came within a 455 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: half inch of being killed in Butler, Pennsylvania, and yet 456 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: the head of the FBI is openly calling for people 457 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: to eighty six Donald Trump. 458 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: Well, and not only as you mentioned, is it a 459 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: dog whistle, but also, yeah, he had a book coming out. 460 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if I do this, and maybe they're 461 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: just narcissm and arrogance to a level that even I 462 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: didn't realize with him, and I thought it was pretty 463 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: high where he's like, I'm i'm, I'm, I'm so powerful, 464 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: I can get away with this, and then everybody will 465 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: want to interview me. I get to dog whistle this 466 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: against the president while also guaranteeing that every single show 467 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: will want to book me to talk about my book 468 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: a KA and also the seashells. 469 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: On the beach. 470 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: It was one hell of a move and and I 471 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: think it's one where he thought nothing's going to happen 472 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: to me, even if I do get interviewed by the 473 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Secret Service, who cares well? 474 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: And I will say he doubled down this week. Uh, 475 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: but by calling on the FBI essentially to fight the 476 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: President of the United States, and and and and and 477 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: accusing the Trump administration of being, in his words, quite 478 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: white supremacists adjacent. 479 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 4: Listen to this, So follow. 480 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 5: Up on the seashell situation when explaining why you took 481 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: it down, But what will you trying to communicate to 482 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: the public impete Trump. What was your reasoning for it? 483 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 6: No, I just thought it was a cool picture. Someone 484 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 6: was expressing a political view in a very clever way 485 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 6: in shells that were organized by the like they had 486 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 6: the same color for each of the letters. I just thought, 487 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: what a cool thing. And I'm well known as a 488 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 6: political opponent of Donald Trump, and I just thought, well, 489 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 6: that's cool. My Instagram account is family politics stuff, including 490 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 6: stuff like this. I put a shell on last fall. 491 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 6: I thought it was cool. Someone had painted the inside 492 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 6: of a big shell to say vot Kamala, and I 493 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 6: thought that's really cool, so I put that on. But 494 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 6: so it's not a particular message other than that. 495 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: I was just going to ask you what the MSNBC 496 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: interview you were doing, because on social media everyone's saying 497 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 5: he's talking about the white supremacist adjacent Republican Party. Everybody 498 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: in the party, Yeah, voters, what what's you want to 499 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: thank you? No clarification at all. 500 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to comment on Okay, thank you, well, 501 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 4: thank you? 502 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: Hello, I love it. 503 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: Be well, I'm not gonna clarify and that I'm going 504 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: to keep that out there as well. 505 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: Buy my book, What utter garbage. Oh, I just thought 506 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: it was kind of interesting. I just thought it was, 507 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, kind of pretty. The seashells were pretty. Like, 508 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: what an absurd claim, And there's something mocking about it 509 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: that he could claim. Okay, Number one, James Comy is 510 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: not a stupid man. 511 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's smart. He knows what he's doing. 512 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: He knows exactly what he is doing. And James Comy 513 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: number one, he knows who forty seven is. He knows 514 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: exactly who forty seven is. Forty seven is the forty 515 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: seventh President of the United States Donald J. Trump Number two. 516 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: The claim that he didn't know what eighty six is. Listen, 517 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: that is that that is absurd. It is it is 518 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 3: not remotely credible. And the fact that he's saying that, 519 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: the fact that he's saying that is mocking. It is 520 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: a level of contempt. And listen. I gotta say, I 521 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: don't know Comy personally, but in my view, he is 522 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: someone who was consumed by power. When he was the 523 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: head of the FBI, I think he had delusions of grandeur. 524 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: I think he believed he was j Edgar Hoover and 525 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: he wanted to have presidents of the United States reporting 526 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 3: to him. By the way, do you happen to know 527 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: off the top of your top of your head what 528 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: eighteen USC. Section eight seventy one provides, No, what is it? 529 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: What's funny? It's actually a felony. Threatening the President of 530 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: the United States is a felony that's punishable by up 531 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: to five years in Prisonman, you would think the head 532 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: of the FBI would know that, and yet he blithely said, Oh, 533 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 3: I just saw some pretty seashells. You know, nothing to 534 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: see here. 535 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: And let's just remind people when you said that he's smart. 536 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: This is the same guy that mocked the Trump administration 537 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: the first time, right when they got into office, when 538 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: he just sent a couple FBI agents over to try 539 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: to entrap General Flynn. Like, never forget. That's how calculated 540 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: this guy is. So for him to say, oh, I 541 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: just saw a picture here and I thought it was 542 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: really cute to seashells, I don't buy that crap for 543 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: a moment. 544 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: He proposed sending someone wearing a wire to entrap the 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 3: President of the United States. And I want you to 546 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: listen to him with Nicole Wallace and MSNBC because I 547 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: want you to listen to just this this smarmy, sanctimonious, 548 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: dishonest You can tell what I think about him here 549 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: to just play his words and see if you agree 550 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: with me. 551 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 7: You're back in the middle of a political firestorm. 552 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife. So 553 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 6: I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred 554 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, 555 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 6: but that's the time we live. 556 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: In, Okay. 557 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: Then there's a technical word for what he just said 558 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: there that would be called a lie. He is deliberately lying, 559 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: he knows he's lying. He is not in trouble for 560 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: walking on the beach with his wife. He is understandably 561 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: in trouble for publicly advocating the murder of the president 562 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: of the United States. 563 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: And yet there's a lot of you think he knew 564 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: exactly what he was doing. And yeah, he may get 565 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: hauled in for some questioning, but he's not going to 566 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: get arrested because he's a former MPI director and that 567 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: guy never gets in trouble. 568 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: Right, Well, we shall see. 569 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: I will say Cash Betel and Dan Bongino are not 570 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: your typical heads of the FBI. 571 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. It'd be very interesting to 572 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: see what happens moving forward. We'll keep you updated on it. 573 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: I want to move also the MPR lawsuit and get 574 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: your take on that center as well. 575 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: So this week NPR, National Public Radio, and three Colorado 576 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: Public Radio stations filed a lawsuit in federal court against 577 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: the Trump White House against the President's executive order barring 578 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: the use of funds for NPR and for PBS, and 579 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: the lawsuit says, quote, it is not always obvious when 580 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: the government has acted with a retaliatory purpose in violation 581 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: of the First Amendment. 582 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: But this wolf comes as a wolf. 583 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: The order targets NPR and PBS expressly because, in the 584 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: President's views, their news and other content is not fair, accurate, 585 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 3: or unbiased. Now let me stop and say, listen, you 586 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: could file a reasonable lawsuit arguing that on any of 587 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: these particular executive orders that where you're dealing with congressional appropriations, 588 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: that challenging the authority of an executive order to limit 589 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: congressional appropriations. That's an area that's being litigated. That's going 590 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: to be litigated, and reasonable minds can can differ on 591 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: what is permissible. And we've talked in previous podcasts that 592 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: there is there is a significant dispute over the president's 593 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: authority to engage in what is called impoundment, which is 594 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: essentially to decline to spend money that comeungress as appropriated. 595 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: That you want to file a lawsuit over that, Okay, courts, 596 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: we'll sort that out. 597 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: That'll be litigated. 598 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: But here what this lawsuit is claiming is that the 599 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: First Amendment prohibits defunding NPR. And the reason they say 600 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: it really is absurd is you can't defund the NPR 601 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: simply because quote their news and other content is not fair, 602 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: accurator unbiased. Now let me say I think no objective 603 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: person on planet Earth can contend that NPR or PBS 604 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: are fair, accurator unbiased. And so we really are in 605 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: Alison Wonderland through the looking glass, where you now have 606 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: litigants arguing because NPR and PBS are dishonest and political, 607 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: you can't cut off funding because cutting off funding would 608 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: be silencing our right to be dishonest and political and 609 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: not just look, you absolutely have a right to be 610 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: dishonest and political. So MSNBC can publish any nonsense they want, 611 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: CNN can publish any nonsense they want. Now nobody watches them. 612 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: It's kind of a tree falling in the woods. But 613 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: they have a right to say it. They have a 614 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: right to to to to say utter nonsense. But NPR's 615 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: argument is not only do they have a right to 616 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: say it, which I agree they do, but they have 617 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: a right to have the taxpayers fund them forever that 618 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: that that it is illegal for us to stop paying 619 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 3: for their partisan lives. I gotta say, that is an 620 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: absurd claim. And it is the simple simple reality of 621 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: of of of the absurdity of the left. 622 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 623 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: And and I wonder when we will actually get resolution 624 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: on this. Is there a real chance you think that 625 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: we could actually defund m p R, PBS and just say, hey, 626 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: make it on your own. 627 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Is there a real chance? 628 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: Look, I certainly hope so. I am pressing to do so. 629 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm pressing Congress to do so. I'm pressing Congress to 630 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: to enact and codify the Doge cuts that that we've 631 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: seen Elon Muskin doche put in play. We're gonna have 632 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: a battle on Congress. We're gonna have a battle in 633 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: Congress if it has to go through regular order. What 634 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: regular order means is is the standard path of legislation. 635 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: That means it's subject to filibuster. That means you need 636 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: sixty votes in the Senate, which means you need seven Democrats. 637 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: If you have to get seven Democrats. 638 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: And that's how they save it, is what you're saying. 639 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: That's right, that's their ideal situation is you guys complain 640 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: about it and we keep giving billions to our propaganda machines. 641 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: Zero Democrats will vote to defund NPR or PBS, which 642 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: means if it goes through regular order, it will not happen. 643 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: The other way is did. 644 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: That proof of just how biased they are, the fact 645 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: that zero of them would go to defund it because 646 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: they know how valuable it is to their propaganda. 647 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: And they don't care. 648 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: In fact, I want you to listen to Catherine Maher, 649 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: the CEO of NPR, who describes the First Amendment as 650 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: the quote the greatest challenge that she faces to controlling 651 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 3: narratives here. 652 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: Give a listen. 653 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 8: The number one challenge here that we and is, of course, 654 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 8: the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly 655 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 8: robust protection of rights. And that is a protection of 656 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 8: rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very 657 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 8: important that platforms have those rights to be able to 658 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 8: regulate what kind of content they want on their sites. 659 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 8: But it also means that it is a little bit 660 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 8: tricky to really address some of the real challenges of 661 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 8: where does bad information come from and sort of the 662 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 8: influenced peddlers who have made a real market economy around it. 663 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: I mean that through your tax hours are going and 664 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: that's a woman who's in charge. 665 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 3: Damn it, that pesky First Amendment. We want to censor, 666 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: we want to silence voices we disagree with, and that 667 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: First Amendment stands in the way. And here I want 668 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: you to listen to this, this montage of of Catherine 669 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: Marr being being grilled at congressional hearing. Give a listen 670 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: to to just how extreme the NPR CEO is. 671 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 9: And I welcome the opportunity to discuss the essential role 672 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 9: of public media in delivering unbiased, non partisan, fact based 673 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 9: reporting to Americans. Madam Chair, thank you so much for 674 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 9: the opportunity to address this. I know the youth. 675 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 7: Is it up to you, an MPR, to crack down 676 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 7: on bad information or decide the truth to answer the 677 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 7: question yes or no? 678 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 9: Miss more absolutely not. I'm a very strong believer in 679 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 9: free speech, and I believe that more sep. 680 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 7: Your public statements say otherwise. During the COVID pandemic in 681 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 7: the twenty twenty election, you said you censored information through 682 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 7: conversations with government. Which governments were those, Miss Mahr the 683 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 7: Biden administration, yes or. 684 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 9: No, Madam Chair, Wikipedia never censored any information. 685 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 7: These are your public statements, Miss More. 686 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 9: Madam Chair, we are in full compliance and with the 687 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 9: FCC's and Kreen, we'll continue to cooperate. 688 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 7: I remind you you're under oath. I'm assuming you're concerned. 689 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 7: Both of you are concerned about this, and that's why 690 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 7: you brought so many attorneys with you today. 691 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 9: First of all, I want to recognize your concerns. One 692 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 9: of the first things that I did in coming in 693 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 9: in May was to beef off our editorial standards. 694 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: Two PR than doing editorial I'm so sorry. 695 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: AD a federally funded entity that's supposed to provide the news, 696 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: not provide the news. 697 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 10: Of course, of course, Congressman, an article by Uri Berlinger. 698 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 10: I've been at NPR for twenty five years. Here's how 699 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 10: we lost America's trust. 700 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 9: Well, I do want to say that NPR acknowledges that 701 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 9: we were mistaken and failing to cover the Hunter Biden 702 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 9: laptop story more aggressively and sooner. Our current editorial leadership wuhan, 703 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 9: we recognize that we were reporting at the time, but 704 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 9: we acknowledged that the new CIA evidence is worthy of 705 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 9: coverage and have covered up. 706 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 10: You've even talked about the First Amendment kind of getting 707 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 10: in the way of what you wanted to get done. 708 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 10: NPR is now and taking this non biased approach. 709 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 9: I so appreciate the opportunity to perhaps clarify some things. 710 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 9: My talk about truth was really referencing the way that 711 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 9: people use truth to refer to belief as opposed to facts. 712 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 10: Your comments said that truth was getting the way of 713 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 10: getting things done and that you were prioritizing what you 714 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 10: wanted to get done over truth. 715 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 11: Did they come up in your job interview? Like, do 716 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 11: you see a problem? 717 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Congressman? 718 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 9: Thank you for the No, they never came up in 719 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 9: my job interview. 720 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 11: You're a rabid progressive, and do you not think it's 721 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 11: a problem that your political leanings make it seem to 722 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 11: the American people that you're not biased and you're not 723 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 11: doing your job because you agree that your job is 724 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 11: to have journalistic integrity. 725 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 9: Right, absolutely, But there is a strong firewall between the 726 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 9: newsroom and anything that I let's. 727 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: Talk about the newsroom. 728 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 11: You have eighty seven registered Democrats, not a single Republican 729 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 11: in your editor boards. I mean, how does that work 730 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 11: to give us the perception that you're doing your job 731 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 11: of actually delivering unbiased information. 732 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 9: I would agree with you that that number is a 733 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 9: concern if it is accurate. I do believe that we 734 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 9: need to have journalists who represent the full breadth of 735 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 9: the American society so that we can report well for 736 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 9: all Americans. 737 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: Well, I just got to stop it there. 738 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: This goes on for several more minutes, but that part 739 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: there at the end where he's like, you got eighty 740 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: seven people on the editorial board. 741 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: They're all Democrats. You don't have seen a Republican. 742 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: And then she's like, yeah, if that number is true, 743 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: then it is a con earn. 744 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: The argument of NPR is that the First Amendment requires 745 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: for you and me to keep paying for them to 746 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: propagandize and lie. And I got to say one of 747 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: my favorite facts, as I said, it's not just NPR, 748 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: it's three Colorado radio stations. The statewide Colorado Public Radio 749 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: station based in Denver KSUT, which was originally founded by 750 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: the Southern Ute Indian tribe. 751 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 4: And this is the one that cracks me up. 752 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: The Aspen Public Radio, which broadcasts in Aspen, one of 753 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: the richest communities on planet Earth. If you're an Aspen 754 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: and you look at the airport, you just see a 755 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 3: line of private jets as far as the eye can see. 756 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: And their argument is, the First Amendment mandates that we 757 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: tax American workers to pay for propaganda in Aspen. Because 758 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: the poor, wretched masses of aspend can't afford to pay 759 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 3: for their own propaganda, they need to tax American workers instead. 760 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is, and now you know why Donald 761 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: Trump's doing what he's doing. Don't forget me to this 762 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: show Monday, Wednesday Friday. Hit that subscribe or auto download 763 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: button so you don't miss a single episode right up 764 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: to a five star review if you wouldn't mind. It 765 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: helps us reach new listeners and the center. I will 766 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: see you back here on Friday morning.