WEBVTT - Justyn Ross, the COVID Testing Conundrum, and Verballer Q&A

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say,

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<v Speaker 1>well I want to be happy. You want to be

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<v Speaker 1>happy for Dake Edith State. Is that woo woom?

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<v Speaker 2>And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid purple

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<v Speaker 2>boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandon joining me

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<v Speaker 2>as always still over there in sunny southern California, the

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<v Speaker 2>one and only Dan Rubens, Sir, hey doing ty If

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<v Speaker 2>it were up to me, you would even just drop

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<v Speaker 2>the still and that was it would just be a

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle I were leading out here in southern California if

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<v Speaker 2>it were up to me. But as as you and

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<v Speaker 2>I know, without getting into detail, that's not life isn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily up to you and me?

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<v Speaker 1>Is at it? That is factually correct? Yes, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am still out in southern California, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>excited to do a Q and a show with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't done this in far too long, and the wave,

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<v Speaker 1>the magnitude of questions that came in about both college

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<v Speaker 1>football and non college football topics, I think reflects that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it does.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually had somebody ask for this sound just as

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<v Speaker 2>but a little tip off here if I could dan

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<v Speaker 2>that's not quite breaking news. But oh play it ty,

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<v Speaker 2>I just miss I'm going to play it. To play

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<v Speaker 2>it in a few seconds, Okay, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spoil it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be sending out sort of a state of

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<v Speaker 2>of the verbal let folks know what's going on. As

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about in a previous show, we've had some

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<v Speaker 1>Great, all right, I love it. Let's get to our news.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to yell the breaking news thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a weird time to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke before going on air today because it's been

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly heartbreaking week here in the United States, and frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>we wondered whether we should even record. I understand if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to listen to us babble about college

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<v Speaker 2>football right now, believe me, I get it. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>more important things on your mind. Feel free to tune out.

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<v Speaker 2>But in case you need some levity, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>off chance Dan and I can provide it, we are

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<v Speaker 2>here today. We thought we'd do our best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm trying to get in the habit of just

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<v Speaker 1>speaking for me and we speak obviously. We know we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of listeners, and we have college football

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<v Speaker 1>fans from all sorts of backgrounds, and there's diversity in

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<v Speaker 1>our audience. I know we've been to our shows. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice if it were a little bit more diverse,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've got this amazing, smart, enthusiastic crowd of people

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<v Speaker 1>who listen to the show. So in the interest of

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<v Speaker 1>just speaking for me, it's not a political thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a people thing. And as the issues of race and

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<v Speaker 1>culture and policing and everything that comes with it are

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<v Speaker 1>brought under a bright spotlight, I just I want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that I'm dumb, Tie, and this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that we are, I think enthusiastic about pointing out. We

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<v Speaker 1>did it when we were talking about whether there was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a season and what that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like. I think it's important that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm just again speaking for me. I'm dumb. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an expert on my life and my experiences and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of college football, some food, global tomatoes, Tie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about now? But I try

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<v Speaker 1>to live my life tapping into empathy and humanity as

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<v Speaker 1>often as possible. But I know I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>a better job of bringing that front and center. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we do all these you know, we were involved in production.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the term background tasks, right when things are rendering,

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<v Speaker 1>when I feel like I need to bring those those

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<v Speaker 1>background tasks forward a lot more in my not just now,

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<v Speaker 1>not just as things are under the spotlight, but just

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<v Speaker 1>as a person in general. So as I speak for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody can relate to that thought of the humanity

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<v Speaker 1>and empathy needing to come forward a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>or a lot bit more, I hope it rings true.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it rings true and is something that we

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<v Speaker 1>can all work on. And on that note, Tie, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be silly about college football because we have the privilege

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. I think that's right, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's all said. I appreciate you saying that. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that folks out there do as well. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I will lead into something of another unfortunate story. News

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<v Speaker 1>broke yesterday that Justin Ross, the top receiver presumed top

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<v Speaker 1>receiver for the Clemson Tigers, would be missing all of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and beyond with a spinal issue. So as

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<v Speaker 1>it goes, he suffered what they thought was a stinger

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<v Speaker 1>amid spring practice. It soon was determined that it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a congenital condition yep, and he is going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty season. Dablos Sweeney talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about this. He said doctors are somewhat optimistic that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in time after surgery he may be able

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<v Speaker 1>to resume football activities, which would be great, But admittedly,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he's not aware of any other players who

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<v Speaker 1>faced a similar condition who were able to return. So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean it won't happen for mister Ross, but

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<v Speaker 1>it also wasn't super encouraging either. We're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep our fingers crossed here.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>A horrible break for Justin Ross. Yeah, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you hope that he's able to recover and

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<v Speaker 1>get to a physical place where he's not just comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>but also able to play football, presumably a sport he loves.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's first and foremost. Second of all, Clemson's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson is exactly be fine. In terms of wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>tight end. They've recruited the position well. I imagine Amari

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers will show or a bigger load. Now he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't himself as he came back from his own ACL injury,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least fully himself. And they've recruited well there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they happen to have one of the best one

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<v Speaker 1>or two quarterbacks in the country. So I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>don't shed a tear or anything like that for Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are in a a fortuitous place at that

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<v Speaker 1>specific position.

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<v Speaker 2>In other news, in season news, Daniel Bob Bowlesby apparently

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<v Speaker 2>bullish bullish about starting the season on time. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to hear toofore coin the term bullish Bob Bowlesby

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a literation. Maybe we can go

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<v Speaker 2>with sure, Perhaps a playoff type of scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Will make Bob bullish Bob. I can't even say it

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<v Speaker 1>too much alliteration. It's okay, Yeah, he's bullish because he

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<v Speaker 1>seems to see and I don't I can't say he

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<v Speaker 1>with any bad reason. He seems to see schools trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put everything in place to be as safe as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing, there's there's there's no obvious roadblock that

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<v Speaker 1>has been encountered yet, but it is June second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad there's optimism. But August second, September second

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<v Speaker 1>are obviously going to be a lot more meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that note, we start getting into more of

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<v Speaker 2>the kinks and I think more of the stories that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be seeing more of. Part of the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we're installing this news hit at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>our episodes is because we can see the future a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, as most college football fans can. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>there are going to be a lot of oddities quirks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, that I think are going to need

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<v Speaker 2>to take place or are just going to become commonplace

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<v Speaker 2>if we want to have a season. And so stories

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<v Speaker 2>like this next one about Notre Dame and Navy moving

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<v Speaker 2>their game from Ireland back to Annapolis, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more of the norm, right Hearing stories about potentially

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame's game with Wisconsin, which was slated to be

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<v Speaker 2>played at lambeau Field it still is as of now,

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<v Speaker 2>but the room roomer mill is churning that that game

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be moved to Notre Dame Stadium. And

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<v Speaker 2>then with that game being played at Notre Dame Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>The next rendition of that matchup with Wisconsin would be

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<v Speaker 2>played at Camp Randall Stadium. So we're going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more of that, especially as it relates to

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<v Speaker 2>non conference games. And I suspect the next story here

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<v Speaker 2>from John Wilner at the San Jose Mercury News will

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<v Speaker 2>become something that we have to talk a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>about as well as it relates to how the hell

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to pull this off amid a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we acknowledge on a previous show, there's an element

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<v Speaker 2>of risk that that much I think is assumed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just an everyday life. We're going to have to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that. John Wilner gets into what we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>on our will there Be College Football show, and it

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<v Speaker 2>relates to testing. I'll say this right now, Ty, I

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<v Speaker 2>say every single American college football game scheduled for Western

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<v Speaker 2>Europe coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the States. You said it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>more of the norm. I will say I'll say one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of them, Tie, thank you. Of all those

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<v Speaker 1>games talking Barcelona, you're talking, Gosh, I'm gonna we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a college football game in Leone this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we even do our jokes anymore about Lehi Lafayette

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<v Speaker 2>being played in the Tokyo don't probably know.

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<v Speaker 1>Those aren't jokes. That's just reality. Tie, that's just reality.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to cancel that all that back. That's essential,

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<v Speaker 1>essential competition overseas. Yeah, no, that's obviously things are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be moved to the safest possible places. And it

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<v Speaker 1>does make sense to move to Annapolis. And yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>right about the John Wilner story. He spoke to George

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<v Speaker 1>Rutherford at UC San Francisco, who is an a pedio epidemiologist.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. You know, we I say I'm dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>This guy seems smart. This seems like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>smarter people. And he laid out an ideal week and

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<v Speaker 1>ideal plan for how college and he's a college football fan,

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<v Speaker 1>how programs can go about testing responsibly and with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ideal timing. And that's early in the week on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Wednesday, that's seventy two hours before kickoff, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the times, how long it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of become contagious, you want that seventy two hour window.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Saturday morning before games and he and John

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<v Speaker 1>Wilner sort of priced it out at being a little

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<v Speaker 1>about half a million dollars for the season, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how many people you test, and if you're going all school,

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<v Speaker 1>year long, and every single athletic department employee closer to

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<v Speaker 1>like five six million dollars. So it's an expenditure, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also an investment I suppose in both health and

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<v Speaker 1>having television broadcast football and other sports.

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<v Speaker 2>It does beg the question if you go the six

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar route, and again marketing back to our previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>go back, listen to the show we did on will

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<v Speaker 2>there be a college football season in twenty twenty? If

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<v Speaker 2>you are Ohio State or Texas and you're pulling down

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<v Speaker 2>nine zeros with your athletic department, of course you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend five or six million dollars if you

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<v Speaker 2>go the more aggressive route, right, But I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>an investment you make because you can and it benefits you.

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<v Speaker 2>You almost have to. But if you're Arkansas State, if

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<v Speaker 2>your revenue is three and a half million dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe even a half million dollars on the low

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<v Speaker 2>end is too much for you to invest, do you

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<v Speaker 2>just scrap the whole damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a good point, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it will take in terms of loans, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>cooperation with states, or funding from states who are also

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<v Speaker 1>invested in the success of athletic departments in football from

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<v Speaker 1>these major colleges. Something will be worked out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going to hear too many stories about Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess North Texas is just gonna not test kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the route they're taking and they're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to play. I don't think we're gonna see those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. The only other tidbit here we have

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<v Speaker 2>to mention it. As we said at the top, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a weird backdrop right now. But amid some of the

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<v Speaker 2>disturbances down in Atlanta, the College Foopbleball of Fame was

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<v Speaker 2>damaged by protesters. I read up on this as best

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<v Speaker 2>I could. Doesn't seem like the damage is terrible. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want any damage at all, But hopefully that

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<v Speaker 2>can be restored to all of its former glory and

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<v Speaker 2>continue being a shrine for college football fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been told the only thing missing are the Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame and Oregon National Championship College football playoff trophies. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been told those are gone. They exist, Ty, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not there, not yet. I am ready to

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<v Speaker 1>move on to questions. If you are. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. I would love to move on to questions. Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>what a treat? Congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail. You've got mail.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Solid Verbal Dan as often as we can,

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<v Speaker 1>and now maybe a little bit more often than ever before.

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<v Speaker 2>Solid Verbal at gmail dot com. You can also find

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<v Speaker 2>us on Instagram, on Facebook, on Twitter, all the usual

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<v Speaker 2>social media hotspots. We put out a siren call for

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<v Speaker 2>your questions for college football, for sort of college football related,

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<v Speaker 2>for non college football related. We're really running the full

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<v Speaker 2>gamut here, Dan, Sure gonna start with an individual who

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<v Speaker 2>labeled themselves as lifes for fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not? It's for fun?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about the open transfer market with

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<v Speaker 2>a one year penalty? Now, good question, That is the

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<v Speaker 2>way the question is written. I'm wondering if it was

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<v Speaker 2>intended to be without a one year penalty. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it without We can talk about it and without.

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<v Speaker 2>So currently it's kinda like this with a one year penalty. Currently,

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<v Speaker 2>if you transfer out, if you get your release if

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<v Speaker 2>you sign on with a new team.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you have to sit out a season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there have been recent except to that rule, justin

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<v Speaker 2>Fields and Tate Martel and there are a number of

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<v Speaker 2>other folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hardship waivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, it even varies from conference to conference. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the current system. I think you and I are still

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<v Speaker 2>in agreement. We've been in agreement for a while that

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<v Speaker 2>that system is somewhat antiquated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, Yeah, especially as we see the NIL stuff

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<v Speaker 1>come forward, there's going to be more player power there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is more energy and momentum behind player power,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would expect that too. Even though I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was shelved for the time being, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go through and I think I'm for it. Ty.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody wants to leave, they want to leave. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good for the program for somebody who doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be there to be able to go. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's always going to be fears about free agency and

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<v Speaker 1>what an open market means, but I think it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's going to be all right. You want

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<v Speaker 1>players who want to be at your program. It will

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<v Speaker 1>hold school, coaching staffs, athletic departments more accountable to be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as they possibly can be to players, academic support.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think players want. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times players leave because it's not just saying, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I got beat out to start at safety. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to this other program where I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have a better chance. I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>times players just they don't fit in with the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the coach who recruited them left. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of they don't like the weather, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the campus. And yes, it is better when people

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<v Speaker 1>just in general stick things out if the initial impression

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<v Speaker 1>isn't good, but it's also college football. If somebody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be more comfortable somewhere else and they're positive they

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<v Speaker 1>will be, I'm okay with that movement and having immediate

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility at least once, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, right, And that is the proposal, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>if we reword the question a little bit here, if

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<v Speaker 2>or iver Ball are meant to ask about the open

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<v Speaker 2>market without that one year penalty. That's been the proposal

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<v Speaker 2>that's been floating around since well officially the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a lot longer than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Under that rule, you would essentially get one freebie, you

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<v Speaker 2>get one Hall pass, you can get your transfer release,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go elsewhere, you can play immediately, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can only do it once. And the NCAA has talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it. They decided to put that proposal on the

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<v Speaker 2>back burner as soon as they think they can enact.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be the twenty twenty one slash twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>academic year. I like it, actually, yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we are of one mind on this particular issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It begs the question. I know we've had people write

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<v Speaker 2>in and say, well that Kirk Herbstreet. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't written in, but I know he's done all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of pearl clutching on FRS. Well, you know right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the it's not the spirit of the game whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like coaches can leave whenever they want. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that it balances things out a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more in the favor of the player.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't understand, like, if I looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon roster, if you looked at the Notre Dame roster,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine looking at the roster and saying, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we can hold on to him. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't leave. You can't live your life and fear

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Oh what happens if the free agency becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in college football that ruins You can't live

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<v Speaker 1>your life and fear like that. Just enjoy your team,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your roster. If somebody doesn't want to be there

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to go somewhere else, so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>Find somebody to replace them. Maybe your coaches shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>terrible if that's something that weighs in on them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking specifically about Brian Kelly Tye. Just can't live

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<v Speaker 1>you can't worry about the hypothetical that there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>we have no idea about is going to ruin the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is my worldview and this is my prediction.

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<v Speaker 2>Just move on the question I would ask for, and

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<v Speaker 2>not specifically Kirk Curvestreet, but folks who say that this

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<v Speaker 2>violates the spirit of the game. Yeah, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>feel about coaches who leave after one year? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>in the spirit of the spirit of the game? Are

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<v Speaker 2>we okay with that? Everyone should's cool with that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a rule where you got to stay with a program.

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<v Speaker 2>For two years or anything like that. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that would be my question back. I'm okay with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the unintended consequences would be, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to find out, just to give players a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more say in their futures a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of fun. Couple weeks after signing day in which,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, now we've decided to get rid of our

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator. Oh now we've decided to politely push out

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<v Speaker 1>our wide receivers coach. Weird how that happens every year

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<v Speaker 1>right after signing day, right after players sign up to

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<v Speaker 1>play for somebody moving on Red Cup rights in as

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<v Speaker 1>Red Cup Rebellion are good friends at the Old Miss site?

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<v Speaker 2>What should we expect as Old Miss fans from Lane

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<v Speaker 2>Kiffen in year one? Yeah, the low hanging fruit is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more snark and probably trash talk on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe press conferences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was going to say, speaking of leaving after

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<v Speaker 1>one year, let's move on to Lane Kiffin. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>should we expeck from Lane Kiffin in year one? I

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<v Speaker 1>assume the question is what should we expect from Ole

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<v Speaker 1>Miss and a Lane Kiffin Ole Miss squad in year one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a brutal schedule. I don't know if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to look at it. It's especially that first

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season. It's pretty front loaded, and they

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<v Speaker 1>get a big twelve championship contender from last year to

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<v Speaker 1>start the season in Baylor. I believe at your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>stadium in Houston the nerg So it all goes to

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<v Speaker 1>plan scheduling wise, I think ole Miss is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bowlish team if everything breaks their way. If

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<v Speaker 1>they're able to beat a good team, they should be bowlish.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to figure out what they're doing at quarterback. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>John Reese Plumley had a very promising year, largely with

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<v Speaker 1>his feet though, which is not necessarily the focus of

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffin's. And he brings over the offensive coordinator. I

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<v Speaker 1>think his name is Jeff Levy from UCF. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that name wrong. DJ Diurkins taking over

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, or at least partially it's the co defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to get a lot better in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>They return a bunch of linebackers. They lost a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of good dudes up front on defense. I think year

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<v Speaker 1>one you want to at least solidify and just have

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<v Speaker 1>hope that the secondary has gotten better and that there

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be a plan on offense. Elijah Moore is good,

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers, the young receivers appear to be promising. So

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<v Speaker 1>just a cohesive plan on offense and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more organization on the back end, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable expectation, given that saying yeah, I'll Wight in four

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<v Speaker 1>seems pretty unrealistic against this schedule. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the answer to this question, Dan, I

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<v Speaker 2>racked my brain here. I don't know the answer, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you what I'm most interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll recruit well. I think they'll recruit well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm most interested in what he does with John Reese

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<v Speaker 2>Plumbley at quarterback. Sure, because this is not a typical

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<v Speaker 2>lane kiffing quarterback. This is a kid who had more

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<v Speaker 2>rushing attempts than passing attempts last year. To have an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to get creative with him, He's obviously a.

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<v Speaker 1>Multi sports star.

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<v Speaker 2>For what it's worth, John Reese plumbly is excited to

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<v Speaker 2>be working with link Kivin. Not that he'd ever say otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm curious to see what that collaborative effort looks

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<v Speaker 2>like and what John Reese plumbly looks like after a

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<v Speaker 2>year under Lane Kiffin, if it changes at all, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>he'd find a way to better balance him out and

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<v Speaker 2>get more out of the passing game. But I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, which is why I'm most interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a good guest's gotten he has gotten relatively

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<v Speaker 1>impressive results from non sure thing passers. Yes, okay, m

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<v Speaker 1>BALTI sure. By the way, some of these are from Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>which we really haven't drawn questions from in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to say our Instagram crowd, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, follow solid verbal on Instagram. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Pause the show? Follow solidverbal on Instagram. We're

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<v Speaker 1>posting basically every day. You can see how mediocre my

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<v Speaker 1>photoshop skills are and how outstanding my video editing skills

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<v Speaker 1>are followed solidverble on Instagram. And I believe this also

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<v Speaker 1>comes to us from Instagram, though maybe it's redit.

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<v Speaker 2>What does proof of concept for Georgia Tech look like

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<v Speaker 2>this year? So when I checked out Georgia Tech for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, you might remember they got a new coach

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<v Speaker 2>from Temple a year ago in twenty nineteen, Jeff Collins,

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<v Speaker 2>good guy, good coach. This might be the toughest schedule

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<v Speaker 2>in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real bad.

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<v Speaker 2>The proof of concept here might might be more of

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<v Speaker 2>like moral victories on offense and defense, Like do they

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<v Speaker 2>get better on offense? Do they get better on defense?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they've got Clemson, UCF, they're on the road at

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina and Virginia Tech. They play Notre Dame in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>Miami at home, and they're on the road at Georgia. That,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, is brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's Atlanta, but not at Bobby Dodd correct.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a tough ask a year ago to move

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 2>move from Paul Johnson to more of a spread. Look,

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the personnel just wasn't there last year. Plus they had

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>a ton of injuries on the offensive line this year.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 2>It just has to improve. It has to get better.

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see how James Graham looks at quarterback

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>after getting a year under his belt. And defensively, they

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>got to show more teeth against the run. I think

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 2>if they do any of those things, it's a step forward.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Any of those things would be an effective, a viable

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 2>proof of concept for moving this thing forward in twenty

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things you see when you read

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>or watch Jeff Collins is a repeated desire to get bigger, longer, stronger.

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a different system. This is the I'm sure on

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 1>every single Georgia Tech board and conversation. It's like transitioning

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>from the flex Moon to what Jeff Collins is trying

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to do on offense and defense for that matter. So

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to recruit, they're trying to develop, they're trying

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to build bigger athletes whatever to transition. That's difficult right

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>now when you are not on campus and you don't

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>have office and workouts. I think the biggest thing might

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>just be discipline. I know that's a vague term, but

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>do you know who led the nation in turnover margin

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen? You probably don't. I do not off

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the top of my head. It's arguably the bad team

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that became the most promising team in terms of results.

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>And this was also a team that I think went

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>nine to three against the spread, which means that they

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>were constantly underestimated and kept things close more often than not.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Oregon State. Oregon State led the don't quote me if

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>it's turnover margin might just be they led the nation

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in fewest turnovers lost. I know turnovers can be random,

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>but also there are no random fumble bounces. If you

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>don't fumble the ball, if the ball doesn't pop out,

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't fumble the ball as far as I can tell.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>If your quarterback is getting more comfortable in your system,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.959
<v Speaker 1>presumably he's going to throw fewer interceptions. And when you

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>give the ball away less and Georgia Tech certainly gave

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the ball away a ton in twenty nineteen, give yourself

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a shot. You keep games close. I think proof of

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>concept is going to be what does Georgia Tech's record

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 1>against the spread look like? And as weird as that

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>is to say, with this actual schedule looking as difficult

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as it does, if they're staying within a couple touchdowns

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>against Georgia, Notre Dame, and Clemson, if they're competitive with

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>them for a half a quarter and a half, and

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>their players appear to be in the right place, if

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>their linebackers are getting run over instead of juked, instead

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of running the wrong direction, things like that to me

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>are little things. We're just like, Yes, of course, Travis

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>etn is impossible to tackle, but at least he was

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in the right lane. At least the run fits were correct.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that, and maybe it takes a rewatch of

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a game to say, yeah, we just got beat by

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>flat out amazing players. That's improvement. And I think Georgia

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Tech showed some of that last year. I just don't

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>think they have those dudes yet on either side of

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>the ball. But they're recruiting really well. I think they

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>had a blue chip quarterback from Tallahassee. I want to say,

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Simms. He's going to be a freshman, and the

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>early word on him is pretty impressive. So stuff like that,

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>we're just like, Okay, I see what they're going for.

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>If you watch a Georgia Tech game and you're like,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>they're not there, but I get it, that's a proof

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of concept. In twenty twenty, all.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 2>Right, chances that Penn State wins the Big Ten. This

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>one comes to us from David. Yes, So, David, if

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>you take the Vegas slant on this one, Penn State

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>is at six to one to win the Big Ten. Now,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State is negative two forty, which basically means you

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>got a bet two hundred and forty dollars to win

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred. They're an overwhelming favorite to win the Big Ten.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 2>After Penn State, you've got Michigan at thirteen to two,

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>You've got Wisconsin at ten to one, which, honestly, Wisconsin

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>at ten to one seems like pretty good bet just

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to get value. That's not the worst bet in the

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>world for Penn State.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Though.

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>It comes down to the month of October. They're at Michigan,

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>then they're on buy, then they're home against Iowa and

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State on back to back weeks. If they can

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>get through that gauntlet in October, that gives them their

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>best shot for doing it. That's what they would need

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 2>to do. There's some other games later in the year

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 2>could be tricky. I think on the road at Nebraska

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>and then maybe the next week back home against Michigan State.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't have the schedule in front of him, but

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>it's something like that, Yeah, you're one coach of Michigan State. Yeah, yeah, So,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean there are some tricky spots elsewhere. There's an

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 2>early game on the road at Lane Stadium against Virginia Tech.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Not a conference game, sure, but we'll get a better

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>sense for what Penn State is this should be a

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 2>good team. They're good on defense. I don't expect they're

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna dip it all on defense.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Shaka Tony's back, right, Yeah, they.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Got a shore up there. They're like passing defense. They

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>got to give up fewer back breaking pass plays. I

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>guess they got to get the offense figured out because

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>they've got a new offensive coordinator in Kurt Shiraka. But

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot back and so I feel good about

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>their chances to be in that conversation, But the month

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of October looms pretty large here.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, they couldn't bring Tanner Morgan over to

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>prevent him, and they're not playing Minnesota to prevent Minnesota

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>from at least in the first half, rocking that secondary.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So they hired Kirk Sharaka, and I just dude, wise,

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna need a healthy amount on both sides. And

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I like Penn State up front on defense. Although YGM

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is gone, right, he's tol ros Montos He's gone, but

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons is one of the absolute best defensive players

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in the country. Johan Dotson's probably the go to guy

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on offense with kJ Hamler gone, but Pat Fryermuth is back.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he's what a sophomore junior this year, I believe.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So they've got a couple guys who are interesting. Do

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>they have a back breaking dude on offense? Because I

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe is the best answer I can give right now,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if I fully trust Sean Clifford.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But I anticipate improvement with Shiraka. But that might also

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.239
<v Speaker 1>be me just not giving Tanner Morgan enough credit. So

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I I think I would put Penn State's odds as

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>not great because generally speaking before a season, i'd like

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>an obvious dude to point to they should have a

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>really good backfield. Yeah, I think it's deep and talented.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think they'll be fine. In terms

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of offensive weaponry, I do. I do share your question

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>though about particularly the dude out wide like Pat Fryermuth

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>gives him a lot in the passing game. You can

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>play him as a wide.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Out, but sure big target down the middle.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, dot, since somebody needs a step up and

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>they need to get more of that vertical threat.

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Ricky Slade has actually gone anywhere yet.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Has he has he announced where he's transferring to?

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, not that I'm aware of Okay, we'll see, Okay,

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>where you want to go next? Dan, I've been asking

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>all the questions.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to go a little bit Homer right now?

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Because you have both a Notre Dame and an Oregon question,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:23.959
<v Speaker 1>Let's go out west for an Oregon question, and then

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll go back to you for a Notre Dame question.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Mason Vandy wants to know how does Mario Christaball's offensive

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>line look next year after losing four starters at Oregon.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good? It is pretty good. Last year's was excellent.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback is probably the bigger question to me. They return

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>basically all of their skill guys other than Penn State

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>transferred Juwan Johnson and their starting tight end got hurt

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of last season. But upfront, Oregon has

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>recruited well. They red shirted a talented tackle last year.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>They had the number one offensive lineman from the junior

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>college ranks red shirt last year as well. They brought

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in I think a junior college center, so he'll battle

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>things out. He might play center, he might play guard.

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be nearly as deep as they were.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>They weren't just talented up front last year. They were

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>deep with talent, so there'll be a lot of youth

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that is relied on as rotation pieces. But I think

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>ultimately what they have in Joe Morehead as an offensive

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>coordinator and you know this from following Penn State and

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>their own offensive line struggles. His system gets the ball

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>out of the quarterback's hands quickly. It's misleading, there's misdirection,

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.959
<v Speaker 1>there's that RPO action that the line won't be counted

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>on to be amazing what he got out of the

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>line and what he got out of the running game

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>with Saquon Barkley. And trust me, Orgon does not have

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley. I think leads me to believe that they

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>should be at worst like a B plus. I don't

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>know much about but you know Joe Morehead, Yeah, I mean,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.479
<v Speaker 1>and you're still a little bit bitter that he went

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to Oregon and not Notre Dame. I get it a

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see what he what he brings to Oregon.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a very natural fit. And maybe that's

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>just because I have the Chip Kelly Oregon era fresh

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>on the brain after all of our First Place Loser

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>style podcast that we've done, but.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm our East Coast small school offensive mind. Yeah,

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious to see what it does with that offense.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Does Brian Kelly have what it takes to win? I

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>assume he means the national championship at Notre Dame because

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>he's won plenty, But that seems to be that.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Piece, I think so, I've I've felt that way for

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>a while. I think since Kelly took over, the overall

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 2>talent on the Notre Dame roster has improved exponentially. They're

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>deeper now than they've ever been at any point before.

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>The one question, the outstanding question that I have about

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>this team is a quarterback position, and can they recruit

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that game changing core or back to come in and

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>take Notre Dame to the next level. I feel like

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>that's really held them back.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 2>Ian Book is going to be the first three year

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>consecutive starter that Brian Kelly's had in his tenure at

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. If Tommy Reese can better tap into what

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Ian Book has as a downfield passer, that would put

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the offense in a much better spot. We know that

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>they can rely on his legs to some extent, so

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I think there is certainly reason for optimism there. I

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that happens this year, but I do

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>think just in general, as a coach, yeah, I think

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>he has one for sure.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>So yes, obviously he's led a team to a national

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>championship game and to the College Football Playoff. They didn't

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>fully equit themselves all that well in either one of

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>those instances, but that's if a coach is getting you there,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>that means obviously he's capable on some level to take

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>another step. What would Notre Dame fans or what do

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame fans in general doubt about. I don't know

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 1>if it's the Brian Kelly era or the recent Brian

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Kelly teams. Are they so like this year's team? To me,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it almost seems like it's a similar question to what

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we had about Penn State, like where are the killers

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>on offense? Chase Claypool's gone. I don't know if they

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>have a guy at running back it was at Jafar Armstrong.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It is he the one who's well, I mean he's back.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It could be Chris Tyree.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>People are excited about Chris Tyree right in the backfield,

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a freshman running back who comes in with much acclaim.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 1>But who's writing book throwing to that that is going

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to I don't have their schedule in front of me.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Do they play Clemson? They do play back in the rotation,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>So like, who is scaring a really good secondary out wide?

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Because as we saw, you know, as we've seen against

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the best teams that Notre Dame plays generally in January,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they just don't exist on the roster.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a different question though, if you're talking about

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.959
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame in the twenty twenty season versus Brian Kelly

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>as coach. Yeah, Notre Dame twenty is a good team.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not going to contend for the national championship.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I think they've done a really good job on defense,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in building and recruiting, in building up depth and building

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>up experience. Your guy, what what's his name, Kyle Hamilton

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>at safety? He should be full time this year, me,

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Hamilton. So yeah, they up front, the linebackers were

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>really I think they're all new last year. I don't

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>rememberize everything, but I think linebackers was a point of

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>strength last year for Notre Dame in replacing guys because

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it was what Drew Tranquill the year before, who was

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>doing so much for the Irish, And I don't remember

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>thinking Notre Dame's linebackers are a liability last year, so

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>year over year they seem to do an impressive job

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>on defense. It just what does that that threat on

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>offense look like, because I don't know if I've seen

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it recently. There's always like a guy, but never like,

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>oh man, Notre Dame's got a killer three now on offense.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we'll see. I don't know, and no, it

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. I think Brian Kelly as a coach

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>has it, but he is in the position that so

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>many other coaches around the country are in and you

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>just can't hold them to the same standard as like

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a Dabbo Swinge ar a Nick Saban. At this point,

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>they've gotten to the point now where they're continuously in

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>that conversation and I think that in and of itself

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>is a huge victory for Notre Dame.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Has to his impact at Alabama permanently changed what we

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>know the Crimson tide to be. So I assume this

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is Duck caught upstream. This is from Reddit. To his

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>impact at Alabama is just this all world quarterback. They've

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>spread everything out, they go rpo, They've got these amazing

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>receivers and this crazy productive quarterback. So is Alabama a

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>wide open program? I suppose on offense? Yeah, this is

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the answers.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is a weird question because you can't put

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the genie back in the bottle. Like, No, it's not

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>just that Alabama has moved on from some of those older,

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 2>more antiquated offenses that they used to run very successfully,

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>mind you. Yeah, set, all of college football has moved

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>on almost you're also a Greg McElroy apologist. Sure everybody

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>knows this, but like, hasn't most of college football moved

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>on to some kind of spread system or rpo system,

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Like it's some combination of both. Like it. That's just

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of the state of playing college football right now.

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>And too, I would say most programs have tried. It's okay,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>fair sporgs have tried.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that, but that's that's more the thinking in college

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>football as it relates to offenses. Now. In twenty twenty,

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Tua ran it with It's a great effect, right and

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh I think it meant ran the ball. Yeah, no,

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he ran it and just to an impossible degree.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just I feel like that's where offenses

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>are at as a whole.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>With Alabama specifically, the answer is yes. Nick Saban has

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>given quotes when they've brought in new offensive coordinators staff

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that have toyed with the idea of changing things or

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>in introducing plays of their own system. Nick Saban has

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>been vocal about saying, no, no, this is how we

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>do things here. You were brought in to do this.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You were brought in to be the new guy to

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>do what we do. We didn't bring you in to

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>change the success we've had. So I would say absolutely,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And especially when you look at the quarterbacks that they've

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>brought in this year. They bring in I don't know

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>if he was the number one or number two quarterback

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>in the country, but Bryce Young from southern California is

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>very much in that mold of athletic game changer. Twitchy

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>has a great arm. He is very much a signal

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>that Alabama is not going to some sort of overhauled

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>new offense.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed, All right, where are we gonna go next.

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's go with Alabama's or at least right now opponent

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in Week one A convary. This is very weird to

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>get questions from screen names and humans when does USC

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>win their next title? And I want to answer this

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>question seriously, tie fine, when does USC win their next title?

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So presumably national title, not PAC twelve title, because the

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>expectation at USC is national titles. When do they win

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>their next title?

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Probably not till they move on from Clay Hilton.

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>That's my guess. So it seems that if you're going

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to compete for a national title, if you're going to

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>compete to enter the playoff when your conference enter the playoff,

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going to need three pretty gangbusters years of recruiting.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 1>USC is now starting at year one as we speak,

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>as they build the twenty twenty one class, which is

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>very good. I don't know if you've had an opportunity

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to look at team rankings or specific classes. USC has

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>gotten its act together on the recruiting trail. They're getting

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to Oregon levels and that's a great start. Now they

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have I think two blue chip quarterbacks committed to the program.

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I imagine as long as this staff is together, they

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>will recruit again pretty well. So if you talk about years,

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>if Keaton Slovas is very good, once again, it seems

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like he'll be gone after the twenty twenty one season,

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>after his junior year. It also seems Graham Harrell will

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>probably be gone, and just because he is going to

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>be a commodity in the sport or in the NFL wherever.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's just not in the cards for a

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Clay Helton led Trojan team to get back and win

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a national title. But I imagine that they will start

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>putting together and stringing together really talented classes, and I

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>would say the absolute earliest is twenty twenty three. I'm

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna say year two, year three of the new guys,

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>so probably closer to twenty five twenty six. If the

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>if Clay Helton's out after a year or two, I.

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Was gonna say twenty twenty five without all the logic

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that you put into it.

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just it's smart recruiting with USC too. There

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of amazing classes at USC that

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't panned out. It's fine the right blue chips, it's

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>finding it's putting together really smart classes and finding guys

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, Colorado, New Jersey, Tennessee, Florida, not just relying

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>on southern California. Just finding the best possible fits to

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>maximize Trojan results.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I am very curious to see how much longer Clay

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Hilton continues as coach, because the one thing that always

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>comes up whenever we talk about his performance as a coach,

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just that he's like, he's like a he's an adult.

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>He's an adult. He's a good guy. People like him. Okay, right,

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>he carries himself in a very classy way.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, us, he's going to the good guy playoff TI.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>People love Clay Hilton as a human being. How much

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 2>mileage can you get out of that?

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Though?

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>And every year there's kind of like that one quirk. Right,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>this past year he had the injury at quarterback, Heaton Slovis.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 2>They brought him in. He showed a lot of promise.

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 2>They were starting over on offense to some degree, like

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 2>he had to be right, like he had that card

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that he could play. And now this year moving forward,

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>like the recruiting class last year wasn't great, to be honest,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>but moving forward, like you said, it looks like things

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>are turning around. They're going in a good direction. If

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>us he goes eight and four again, can he point

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>to that and say, look, I Uh, I gotta get

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>my guys back in here. I gotta, I gotta continue

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>with this recruiting class. Is that enough to keep him around? No?

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>If you go eight and four with Keden Slovas this

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>year and I don't have usc schedule in front of me, Well,

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>when we preview everybody, we're going to go deep, deep

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in depth with every division, every conference, whatever. But at

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a certain point you're going to say, we can't waste

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the final year of Keiden Slovas on another PAC twelve

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>South runner up type year, and so they're going to

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>make a move. He just just barely hung on this

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>last time with the new ad giving him another year.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's gonna be the new guy. All right?

0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Where are we gonna go next?

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>You love this question. It's from password one, two, three, four,

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>which I don't have any answer. No, how he knew. No, Well,

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's an interesting question to think about, and

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a long question, but he wants to know when

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>does quarterback and offensive play level out? And he lists

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>names like Tim Tebow and Cam Newton and Marcus Mariota

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and Jamis Winston and more recently Joe Burrow to a

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson. We've had just record breaking offensive

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>performances and quarterback performances this last I don't know, ten

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>twelve years. Will defenses catch up, will things level off?

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>That we are just in an era of unprecedented success

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that will eventually come to a close. Our defense is

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>now too far behind the eight ball. Have rules gone

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>too far in the offensive direction in terms of players

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>being scared about targeting and roughing the quarterback and things

0:44:55.920 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like that, that it's given offenses undue advantages. No easy

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>answer to this, but I will point out that it's

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a new era in terms of it. It's actually not

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that new anymore, but the last ten twelve years, it's

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>an unprecedented level of both focus on the position. And

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you see where these guys have come from, Georgia and Texas,

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and I guess Ohio in the case of Joe Burrow

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 1>not I guess he's from Ohio. But there are certain

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>advantages a lot of these guys have, and whether it's

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray having athlete fathers

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're just genetically so far ahead and have advantages

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of playing football year round in Texas. With that much

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>focus or Cam Newton and the physical advantages that he has,

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and he's a unicorn with quarterbacks. I don't see it

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>slowing down anytime soon. But the other thing that I

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>think is a key contributor to all of this and

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>why I don't think it's going to be slowing down

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. Think about how easy it is to hire

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>really good coaches. Think about how it is to watch

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>film on any school you'd want in the country. Think

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>about so, what Mike you're sick is from Shippensburg? Is

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that how you say that it's Shippenberg Shippensburg. Yeah, So

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes to Oklahoma State. You have Chip Kelly at

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire going to Oregon. You have you know, Gus

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Malson and Chad Morris coming up through the high school ranks.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It's easier to find out about really smart offensive dudes.

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's also easier to find quarterbacks who fit your

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>specific kind of system. And so whether it's the Internet,

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>whether it's tape, whatever it is, it's just an easier

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 1>time to wreak havoc on offense. Because if we talked

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to Chris Brown all the time from Smart Football, so

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>much of this is stealing. It's seeing, you know, a

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>team at the Colorado School of Mines run that little

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:54.919
<v Speaker 1>touch pass and Dana Holgerson hangs seventy on Clemson. It's

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>so much easier to just populate your playbook and to

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>build a system stealing gets from everywhere and then finding

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks who best fit your system. Whether it's you know,

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence from Georgia going to South

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Carolina and play for Clemson. It's much easier to find

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that guy for you. So just in terms of that

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>stew tie, it's easier to find a ghost pepper. It's

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 1>easier to find tie basil. It's easier to find a

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>certain kind of beans. It took a turn means in

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>your chili. Yeah, it always does with food. But I'm

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just saying recipes are so much easier to come by

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that I don't see it stopping anytime soon unless defenses

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>are allowed to do more, which also given safety concerns,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I also don't see happening. Yeah.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a complicated answer here. I think you've

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>always had guys who were.

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I just gave it. I just gave a complicated answer.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>You've always had guys who were physically gifted, right, We

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>see it all the time in college football. You got

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 2>one guy, you win a national championship if he's good enough. Yeah,

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks and incoming high school talent definitely farther along now

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>than at any point I can ever remember. It's just

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 2>there's more of an infrastructure at a lower level of

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>football than at any point I can ever remember. They

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>come into college, they're they're much better prepared physically, mentally,

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>the whole nine yards. So that that much is definitely

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 2>a contributing factor. But I think there's a lot of

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>supporting evidence that the rules have definitely put offenses at

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>an advantage. Just look at the NFL. Look at the NFL.

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 2>They've changed the rule book to some degree, and it's

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 2>now much much more of a passing league than at

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 2>any point before. Also, keep in mind that a lot

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 2>of what you see on Sundays is now openly stolen

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>from what you see on Saturdays. The NFL just on

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 2>thost Fridays. Yeah, closely mimicking what they see at the

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>college level because they know it works. And so no,

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it slows down anytime soon. Also, the

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 2>structure of these college offenses is such that it is

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>really trying to put guys in space. The whole thing

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>is about space, and that favors teams with great athletes.

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 2>That favors teams that can go out and recruit versatility,

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and it definitely puts smaller schools of a disadvantage when

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they can't get those athletes. I don't think it's going

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 2>to slow on anytime soon. I'm curious to see if

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 2>it does take a rule change or I don't know,

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 2>something else to try and slow this down. But no,

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't see it. I don't see it slowed.

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Down, especially since by and large this is not everybody,

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>but a good amount of people prefer watching games with

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>amazing quarterbacks and fewer games with amazing inside linebackers. There

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>are people who prefer great defensive play to offensive play.

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 1>They're people, too, ty But in terms of the sports watchability,

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe we could see a rule change with

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>RPOs and how many line how many yards pass the

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage offensive linemen go with regard to illegal

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 1>player downfield. That kind of thing, I guess could affect

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:11.719
<v Speaker 1>successes of unpredictable RPOs, stuff like that, But otherwise I

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>think the powers that be in college football are pretty

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.359
<v Speaker 1>happy to be living in a renaissance of quarterbacks.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are also living through an extraordinary period of

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.399
<v Speaker 2>college football where you've got like five or six juggernauts

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 2>and they just keep replenishing year after year. Quarterbacks coming

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 2>into these systems like Clemson, if you want to use

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>them as an example, Clemson was already pulling down five

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>stars before Trevor Lawrence showed up and other five stars

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>had to leave. That's the caliber of player they're getting.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:44.720
<v Speaker 2>After Trevor Lawrence leaves, presumably after this year for the draft,

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 2>they've got another five star waiting in the wings that's

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.360
<v Speaker 2>going to perform at just as high level, if not better.

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 2>So we are living through this era of incredible offensive

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 2>advantage and quarterbacks going to these schools that are already

0:50:58.640 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 2>loaded to the teeth.

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you're sick of Clemson, Alabama,

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, whatever, the only thing that will

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.439
<v Speaker 1>beat those The only thing that a smaller school can

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>do to beat a school like any of those schools

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>consistently with the amount of talent each of those places have,

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>is to stumble upon a transcendent quarterback. I guess Texas

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 1>A and M did in Johnny Manziel in twenty eleven,

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe, is the year that they recruited him. He

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>was a freshman, the year he red shirted. That's the

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 1>only way that somebody can will their team that has

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a distinct talent advantage or a distinct scheme advantage. We

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>saw it with Ole miss and what they're able to

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>do with their offense circa what with Doctor Bow and

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen twenty fifteen. There the offense is the only

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>thing really to me, and they had great defenses at

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that time too, but it was the offense that was succeeding.

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>With Evan Ingram and Chad Kelly, skis like that that

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>can really open up the sport and make it as

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:08.399
<v Speaker 1>unpredictable as people want. Otherwise, if we're just talking about

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>defensive talent, where you're gonna see a lot more of

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Alabama and Clemson and Georgia and Ohio State, which I

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody really really wants if you're not fans

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of those teams.

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, last football question, then there are at least

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 2>two quick non college football ones that I just need

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>to talk about.

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, do you want to do the wand question?

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>The wand question?

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I was gonna ask about Kyler Murray versus Lamar Jackson.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I'm taking Lamar, but continue.

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson. This one comes to us from Zach.

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 2>You got to pick one to win you a big game.

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Who you got? Uh? The one who has won the

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>MVP of the National That's the one I know, I think.

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are we talking about today, Lamar Jackson, Louisville

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Lamar versus Oklahoma Kyler? How are you interpreting this? I

0:52:59.480 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm interpreting it college version version, both of who they

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 2>were in college, both won the Heisman. I'm partial to

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Lamar here because he's so gifted as a runner, and

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he more than makes up for his sometimes lack of

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 2>passing accuracy.

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>He was raw in college at times.

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>He's still raw to some degree, but he's just so

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 2>gifted as a runner. You would legit have a chance

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 2>against any team. You could just put him back there

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>in a shotgun and let him run fifty times. He's

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that good as a runner. The key thing for me

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and the reason I think I go Lamar is we've

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 2>seen him put a team on his back without much

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 2>of a supporting cast, and we've seen the results there.

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the distinction.

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Louisville.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>You might remember they were up late against a national

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>championship Clempson team. We talked about them a few episodes ago,

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>like Louisville's not coming back in that game and taking

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a lead against Clemson. If Kyle Bollen is your quarterback,

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 2>like he was just such a transcendent player at the

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 2>college level that I can't look past it.

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is. They're the only difference. We're splitting hairs

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>here because Kyler Murray was an incredible, incredible college player.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 1>The big difference to me is you watch Lamar Jackson

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say I watch Lamar Jackson and I immediately

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:20.280
<v Speaker 1>say I would do anything to wear the same uniform

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 1>as him. What it must be like to be on

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>his team must be so great. I would do anything

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 1>for him to be my quarterback. And I don't quite

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>feel that with Kyler Murray. That's the only difference. What

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was the wand question? Oh, somebody asked if we could

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>wave a magic wand and give any program Alabama levels

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of success, which program would it be? The Lafayette fighting Leopards.

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see answer. Yeah, Trey asked that question. So

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about which fan base seems deserving or

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that we can't give out a fan base without a

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>rival fan base saying like, actually they're the worst. Actually

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that is the worst. So I don't know if there's

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a long suffering fan base that you would feel particularly

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>enthusiastic about giving unprecedented levels of success.

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Who are the Cubs of college football.

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>That haven't won in forever? And yeah, yeah, I mean

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people would argue Cubs fans are obnoxious.

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm married into a Cubs family, so I think they're

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:30.439
<v Speaker 1>charming and wonderful. Sure, long suffering. I don't think there's

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the major schools in Florida. I don't think.

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of a team in the SEC.

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it would get real rough if Tennessee all

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden started winning again. But I kind of

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>want to see it from an entertainment standpoint, what the

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 1>college football universe looks like if Tennessee and everything that

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>comes along with just crazy amounts of success, national championship

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 1>levels of success, What happens, what level of flip turned

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>up side down universe happens if Tennessee.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>give it to an SEC school though. That's the thing, Okay,

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I kind of feel like we need a school

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 2>like that out in the Pac twelve.

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>It would be great for Colorado to come back, but

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't just I don't feel like there's a fervor

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>for it that would I don't think it would be

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.879
<v Speaker 1>as appreciated as some other programs, but it'd be great

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Colorado did it.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 2>There is such an impulse here to just pick a

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>program that's down and out or a really small school program,

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like let's pick Boise State and give it to that.

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Like there really is that inclination to do it. But

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't know. I need That's a great question.

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Trey asked it. Trey asked it right.

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Got to think more about that. Rutgers is there for it.

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>There's no fervor. There is just no Rutgers football ferv

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's pockets, but generally speaking, there's no fervor.

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I need to think more about this. Good question, very

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 2>good question.

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>What about a re emergence to the forefront of Mac

0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Brown and the Tar Hills. But is there a fur

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 1>no fervor. But I mean that's still a pretty big

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>sports school.

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It is u NC. I got to think more about

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 2>this one.

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, I would what if the tables were flipped.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you said you weren't thinking SEC, but what

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 1>if all of a sudden, South Carolina just reversed everything

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>in that state and became a power?

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Be interesting.

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about a school that's been dominated by a

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>rival and doesn't just flip it on the rival, but

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>flips it on all of college football. So Washington Michigan,

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely fervors with both of those fan bases. Michigan

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>fully flips the script on Ryan Day and Ohio State.

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is science fiction, obviously, but yeah, I

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>think a school like that that has been so down

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and out in Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State would be interesting.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. Not the most likable program, but for a

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>fan base that is passionate about the Pokes. Yeah, and

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>then to turn the tide on on Boomer Sooner. Yeah.

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of school that else can't get

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>over on their rival not only gets over on their rival,

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but becomes a national power. That's great.

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>How much time do we got for non college football questions?

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Kit a few minutes? Okay, if you're tuned in to

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to college football, you don't want to listen to

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 1>non college football. Now would be the time to exit

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0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 2>We got this question from Adam. Yeah, I've been thinking

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>about this all day, all day.

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 2>He says he recently hooked up his old Sega and

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 2>he's remembering how infuriating Sonic the Hedgehog was, especially the

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 2>level with the water. All these years later, I still

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 2>haven't cleared it. What video game from your childhood do

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you recall giving you absolute fits? I suspect you and

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I could do a full podcast on this particular question.

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the patience for a lot of RPGs.

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't tie. I don't know if you were

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>big on Final Fantasy and all the no the Zelda

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 1>games and all of that stuff. I just I didn't

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>have it in me I had. I think those gave

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>me the patience element, gave me fits.

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a long dark period of my early childhood

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 2>life trying to figure out that in King's Quest you

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 2>had to throw the iceberg lettuce into the boiling spring

0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 2>in order to get through it.

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like it's such. I'm not gonna say

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a waste of time because I love video games.

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like those minuscule little details, even when

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you figure them out, you're like, well, that wasn't worth it.

0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't worth it at all. Yeah. Is there a

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>specific game other than King's Quest?

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, a few things came to mind. All right, let's listen.

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:01.240
<v Speaker 2>You could indulge me always. How about your bike overheating

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 2>in Excite Bike when you held down the B button

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:04.040
<v Speaker 2>too long?

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Why give me turbo? If I can't turbo? Come on?

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You ever play the game Burger Time? No? What's Burger Time?

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a game where it's sort of like a pac

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<v Speaker 2>Man game where you're running around with the little guy

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<v Speaker 2>with a chef hat and you're trying to make burgers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he had the worst agility in the world. His agility

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<v Speaker 2>makes this list just awful. I would also add the

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<v Speaker 2>entire game of Cubert, which I still don't understand to

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<v Speaker 2>this day, but I had and tried to play and.

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<v Speaker 1>It drove me nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Dan, you'll appreciate this as a Niners fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how about that one running play in Techmo Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>where you couldn't tackle Tom Rathman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's what I mean? I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean. Yes, there are certain plays that are just

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<v Speaker 1>maddening that there is no solution quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I played against the American Dreams in Baseball Stars

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<v Speaker 2>playing NCAA on a computer against my friend Feldman, who

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed me every game with Rishard Casey and Choffee fields

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not as much my childhood. But how about

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<v Speaker 2>that criminal who shoots oil in your face in Mario Kart.

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<v Speaker 1>That thing is the guy on the cloud. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what he is. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'd just add anecdotally trying to use the

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<v Speaker 2>power glove, which I don't would probably probably the worst

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<v Speaker 2>invention in the history of the Nintendo era.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing that was most frustrating to me wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a specific game. It was the false sense of talent

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<v Speaker 1>I had building up from building up my ability against

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<v Speaker 1>my little brothers and the computer and then playing against

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<v Speaker 1>random friends who either were just flat out better or

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<v Speaker 1>had more time to perfect games. And I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that somebody was actually better than me at Techmo

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl or NBA Live ninety five or NHL ninety four,

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<v Speaker 1>that they had figured out quirks much more successfully and

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<v Speaker 1>had developed better video game acumen than I. And that

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<v Speaker 1>false sense of talent just drove me insane, just dominating

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<v Speaker 1>at home and then playing on the road and just

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<v Speaker 1>being worked over. I hated that you ever have a

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<v Speaker 1>character be dunked on? Have you ever gotten dunked on

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<v Speaker 1>by Eric Montross over and over again and made to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a little boy by Eric Montrosse? That's not great? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>your friend Andy says montrocity over and Okay, that's it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got a little intense. Okay. Somebody asked about favorite new recipes,

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<v Speaker 1>favorite dips, food during quarantine food without being able to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and perhaps get every ingredient you want, or

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<v Speaker 1>go to any restaurant you want at any time. I

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 2>Ty.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a corn salad. It's really more like a

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<v Speaker 1>corn salsa, but a corn salad. I charred corn up

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<v Speaker 1>and it's black beans Holapano's or Poblano's, diced up avocado

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<v Speaker 1>lantro and then a honey lime saracha dressing. Tie some

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<v Speaker 1>sea salt, some garlic powder. The recipes from a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. I'm almost positive I've already talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>called Bee's Cracklin, which burned down. There may be a

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<v Speaker 1>location in a grocery store or something like that, a

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue place, and it is absolutely mandatory for any cookouts

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<v Speaker 1>summer cooking you have coming up these next few months. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, that was great. I got the recipe

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<v Speaker 1>from Bone Appetite anything else from Non Football Quickly the

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<v Speaker 1>Solid Baby's top five favorite foods. There's a veggie burger

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<v Speaker 1>from Trader Joe's that's incredible called he likes meat too,

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<v Speaker 1>but he really likes his veggie burger. It's the Keenwak

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy Veggie burger quenwa cowboy keenwak cowboy. It's black beans

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<v Speaker 1>and corn and all sorts of a little spice to it, roast,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet potatoes, waffles, a ton of fruit, pineapple, grapes, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He doesn't know sugar yet, which is great

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<v Speaker 1>because he thinks fruit is just the end all be

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<v Speaker 1>all of deliciousness on earth. So we're holding onto that

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<v Speaker 1>for the time being. So a lot of fruits and

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<v Speaker 1>vegetables and breakfast dough, waffles, bagels.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice pancakes, stuff like that. He also asks what am

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<v Speaker 2>I doing now that I don't have the commute to

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<v Speaker 2>the Oh, that's a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your top forty time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my commute was almost exclusively for listening to hits

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<v Speaker 2>one on Serious XM. Yeah, now that's gone out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm trying to go back through some of the

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts that have been recommended to me. I listened to,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, all of Wind of Change, which you recommended.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I haven't finished yet. Is it great?

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<v Speaker 2>Really good? Nice, really good recommendation out on Spotify. Wind

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<v Speaker 2>to Change would recommend it. So if there are any

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<v Speaker 2>recommendations in the particularly in the nonsports department, the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>Okay Limited series Department, Send him my way, soliverble at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you subscribe to any and we are not doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you subscribe to any pay only podcasts? Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's fully behind a paywall? We're not doing that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that, not yet. I'm not opposed to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I just see it happening more and more,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious about it. I'm curious what people think

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<v Speaker 1>if they really like something, because we don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>plans to do it. I can't stress that enough. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw what's the guy from Daring Fireball and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy from Stratcori have a podcast that's now fully

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<v Speaker 1>behind a paywall. I pay for goat the Greatest of

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<v Speaker 1>All Talk, Ben Golliver and Andrew Sharp and love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that I do. It's like five bucks a month.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing, and that's an NBA show and they do

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing job. I'm just curious if people are doing

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<v Speaker 1>that more and more as podcasting becomes bigger and bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>What else we got here? Anything else that jumps out

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<v Speaker 2>at you?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan says, You're only as comfortable as your feet. What

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<v Speaker 1>shoes are you running? In I only run when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the solid toddler in a stroller. But I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some Adidas Ultra Boosts. I'm not a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I am. You know how cheap I am.

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<v Speaker 2>If I step on a rock that's too big, I

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<v Speaker 2>can feel it now in the bottom of my foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question from I want to go fast, and this

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<v Speaker 1>only applies to you because you're the only one between

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<v Speaker 1>us that has a lawn. What are your lawn care tips,

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<v Speaker 1>tricks and recommendations. Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, I'm no Adam Kramer from a work is,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one is right. We get regular lawn treatments here,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think has helped a lot. I was very

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<v Speaker 2>skeptical at first, but I think it's helped a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? What is a lawn tree?

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<v Speaker 2>They come and they spray it with new tree ins

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<v Speaker 2>instead of're just fertilizing it basically, Okay. I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>cut the grass a little higher so I'm not damaging

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<v Speaker 2>the individual blades of grass.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this.

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<v Speaker 2>Online, by the way, so it has to be true

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<v Speaker 2>that you shouldn't cut your lawn two too low. I

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<v Speaker 2>also try not to cut it in the same direction

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<v Speaker 2>every time because it apparently that can also be harmful

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<v Speaker 2>to the grass. Don't know if that's true either, but

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<v Speaker 2>read that on the internet. I would say my biggest

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<v Speaker 2>weakness as a lawn care professional is probably using the

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<v Speaker 2>weed whacker. I am horrible with this great whacker. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's probably a cheap ole model. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get it right. A lot of spots that are

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<v Speaker 2>just asymmetrical, and that bothers me to no end. You

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<v Speaker 2>know this, right, you know my attention to detail on things.

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<v Speaker 2>It drives me crazy that I'm not better using the

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<v Speaker 2>weed whacker. But I would be open to lawn care

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<v Speaker 2>tips in that regard, like any models or any just any.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something you want to be good at? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Is like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you striving? Do you look at message boards? Because

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<v Speaker 1>the reason our show sounds good is not an accident.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because you've put in you're motivated to make No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm highly motivated. OK, try and get better at this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just horrible at it. I'm not an uncoordinated person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a thoroughbred athlete, right of course, But

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<v Speaker 1>I just I can't figure out I can't crack the

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<v Speaker 1>code on this.

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<v Speaker 2>How to get better at it. So you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Take recommendations from people. If they had a fertilizer recommendation,

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<v Speaker 1>if they had a schedule, a regimen of some kind

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<v Speaker 1>for lawns, if they had design lawn design tips, I

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<v Speaker 1>would would take those. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I already pace want to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>the fertilizing schedule and figure that part out, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody recommends something else that's going to be way

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<v Speaker 1>better than what I mean, send it over with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down to listen. I'm open to any and all

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<v Speaker 2>feedback here. But you want your lawn to look like

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<v Speaker 2>center field at PNC Park.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it. Maybe I would love it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>strike some patterns in there. I'm down, let's do it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a garden going at all? No garden?

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<v Speaker 1>Does solid wife Kate? No? No garden.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kate would be open to it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>not sure we have the bandwidth to take care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a problem when it comes to gardening.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a specific herb or vegetable that you could

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<v Speaker 1>see being worth while to start investing in growing your

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<v Speaker 1>own because you go through it a lot, or because

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine the homemade flavor and quality would be higher

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<v Speaker 1>than what you'd be able to get locally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the the boring and obvious answer is

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<v Speaker 2>probably like spinach or romaine.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd go through a lot of that. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>go through a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't mind growing some globe

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<v Speaker 2>tomatoes and throwing salad and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk. You're a tomato guy, though, you do like a

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<v Speaker 1>good tomato.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw them, throw them into our Yeah, no, I do

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<v Speaker 2>a homemade marinrad Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good answer. I want an avocado tree, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I want, just one. Yeah, I mean I think that

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<v Speaker 1>produces a lot if you can really get it going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. It's difficult. Got to be the right weather,

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the right soil. Takes time to grow

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<v Speaker 1>a tree. But if you got those avocados going, tie,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good life. Well. This has been a fun show, educational.

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<v Speaker 2>We were doing more Q and A shows in the

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<v Speaker 2>very near future, so well, thank you to everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>submitted questions. Maybe we'll use some of those that we

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<v Speaker 2>left off next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't forget.

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<v Speaker 1>So get you just launched, and you just launched an OnlyFans.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you said you wanted to I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting to talk about that on the newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, guys, Tie has been doing so many crunches. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's ready. Okay, Sorry, I didn't want to steal any

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<v Speaker 1>thunder there.

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<v Speaker 2>For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, Tie Hilda Brand over here on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the country, Stay safe, stay healthy out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you in a few days. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>stay solid, Peace. H