Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say,
Speaker 1: well I want to be happy. You want to be
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Speaker 2: And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid purple
Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandon joining me
Speaker 2: as always still over there in sunny southern California, the
Speaker 2: one and only Dan Rubens, Sir, hey doing ty If
Speaker 2: it were up to me, you would even just drop
Speaker 2: the still and that was it would just be a
Speaker 2: lifestyle I were leading out here in southern California if
Speaker 2: it were up to me. But as as you and
Speaker 2: I know, without getting into detail, that's not life isn't
Speaker 2: necessarily up to you and me?
Speaker 1: Is at it? That is factually correct? Yes, So yes,
Speaker 1: I am still out in southern California, and I am
Speaker 1: excited to do a Q and a show with you.
Speaker 1: We haven't done this in far too long, and the wave,
Speaker 1: the magnitude of questions that came in about both college
Speaker 1: football and non college football topics, I think reflects that.
Speaker 1: I think it does.
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Speaker 1: Great, all right, I love it. Let's get to our news.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to yell the breaking news thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like a weird time to do that.
Speaker 2: We spoke before going on air today because it's been
Speaker 2: an incredibly heartbreaking week here in the United States, and frankly,
Speaker 2: we wondered whether we should even record. I understand if
Speaker 2: you don't want to listen to us babble about college
Speaker 2: football right now, believe me, I get it. You've got
Speaker 2: more important things on your mind. Feel free to tune out.
Speaker 2: But in case you need some levity, and on the
Speaker 2: off chance Dan and I can provide it, we are
Speaker 2: here today. We thought we'd do our best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to get in the habit of just
Speaker 1: speaking for me and we speak obviously. We know we
Speaker 1: have a lot of listeners, and we have college football
Speaker 1: fans from all sorts of backgrounds, and there's diversity in
Speaker 1: our audience. I know we've been to our shows. It
Speaker 1: would be nice if it were a little bit more diverse,
Speaker 1: but we've got this amazing, smart, enthusiastic crowd of people
Speaker 1: who listen to the show. So in the interest of
Speaker 1: just speaking for me, it's not a political thing. It's
Speaker 1: a people thing. And as the issues of race and
Speaker 1: culture and policing and everything that comes with it are
Speaker 1: brought under a bright spotlight, I just I want to
Speaker 1: point out that I'm dumb, Tie, and this is something
Speaker 1: that we are, I think enthusiastic about pointing out. We
Speaker 1: did it when we were talking about whether there was
Speaker 1: going to be a season and what that was going
Speaker 1: to look like. I think it's important that you and
Speaker 1: I I'm just again speaking for me. I'm dumb. I'm
Speaker 1: an expert on my life and my experiences and a
Speaker 1: little bit of college football, some food, global tomatoes, Tie,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about now? But I try
Speaker 1: to live my life tapping into empathy and humanity as
Speaker 1: often as possible. But I know I have to do
Speaker 1: a better job of bringing that front and center. You know,
Speaker 1: we do all these you know, we were involved in production.
Speaker 1: There's the term background tasks, right when things are rendering,
Speaker 1: when I feel like I need to bring those those
Speaker 1: background tasks forward a lot more in my not just now,
Speaker 1: not just as things are under the spotlight, but just
Speaker 1: as a person in general. So as I speak for myself,
Speaker 1: if anybody can relate to that thought of the humanity
Speaker 1: and empathy needing to come forward a little bit more
Speaker 1: or a lot bit more, I hope it rings true.
Speaker 1: I hope it rings true and is something that we
Speaker 1: can all work on. And on that note, Tie, let's
Speaker 1: be silly about college football because we have the privilege
Speaker 1: to do so. I think that's right, and I think
Speaker 1: that's all said. I appreciate you saying that. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that folks out there do as well. With that being said,
Speaker 1: I will lead into something of another unfortunate story. News
Speaker 1: broke yesterday that Justin Ross, the top receiver presumed top
Speaker 1: receiver for the Clemson Tigers, would be missing all of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and beyond with a spinal issue. So as
Speaker 1: it goes, he suffered what they thought was a stinger
Speaker 1: amid spring practice. It soon was determined that it's actually
Speaker 1: a congenital condition yep, and he is going to miss
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. Dablos Sweeney talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about this. He said doctors are somewhat optimistic that at
Speaker 1: some point in time after surgery he may be able
Speaker 1: to resume football activities, which would be great, But admittedly,
Speaker 1: he said he's not aware of any other players who
Speaker 1: faced a similar condition who were able to return. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it won't happen for mister Ross, but
Speaker 1: it also wasn't super encouraging either. We're just going to
Speaker 1: have to keep our fingers crossed here.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 1: A horrible break for Justin Ross. Yeah, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: you know, you hope that he's able to recover and
Speaker 1: get to a physical place where he's not just comfortable
Speaker 1: but also able to play football, presumably a sport he loves.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's first and foremost. Second of all, Clemson's fine.
Speaker 1: Clemson is exactly be fine. In terms of wide receiver
Speaker 1: tight end. They've recruited the position well. I imagine Amari
Speaker 1: Rodgers will show or a bigger load. Now he certainly
Speaker 1: wasn't himself as he came back from his own ACL injury,
Speaker 1: or at least fully himself. And they've recruited well there,
Speaker 1: and they happen to have one of the best one
Speaker 1: or two quarterbacks in the country. So I'm not saying
Speaker 1: don't shed a tear or anything like that for Clemson,
Speaker 1: but they are in a a fortuitous place at that
Speaker 1: specific position.
Speaker 2: In other news, in season news, Daniel Bob Bowlesby apparently
Speaker 2: bullish bullish about starting the season on time. I would
Speaker 2: like to hear toofore coin the term bullish Bob Bowlesby
Speaker 2: a little bit of a literation. Maybe we can go
Speaker 2: with sure, Perhaps a playoff type of scenario.
Speaker 1: Will make Bob bullish Bob. I can't even say it
Speaker 1: too much alliteration. It's okay, Yeah, he's bullish because he
Speaker 1: seems to see and I don't I can't say he
Speaker 1: with any bad reason. He seems to see schools trying
Speaker 1: to put everything in place to be as safe as possible,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing, there's there's there's no obvious roadblock that
Speaker 1: has been encountered yet, but it is June second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm glad there's optimism. But August second, September second
Speaker 1: are obviously going to be a lot more meaningful.
Speaker 2: And with that note, we start getting into more of
Speaker 2: the kinks and I think more of the stories that
Speaker 2: we're going to be seeing more of. Part of the
Speaker 2: reason we're installing this news hit at the top of
Speaker 2: our episodes is because we can see the future a
Speaker 2: little bit, as most college football fans can. At this point,
Speaker 2: there are going to be a lot of oddities quirks,
Speaker 2: if you will, that I think are going to need
Speaker 2: to take place or are just going to become commonplace
Speaker 2: if we want to have a season. And so stories
Speaker 2: like this next one about Notre Dame and Navy moving
Speaker 2: their game from Ireland back to Annapolis, that's going to
Speaker 2: be more of the norm, right Hearing stories about potentially
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's game with Wisconsin, which was slated to be
Speaker 2: played at lambeau Field it still is as of now,
Speaker 2: but the room roomer mill is churning that that game
Speaker 2: is going to be moved to Notre Dame Stadium. And
Speaker 2: then with that game being played at Notre Dame Stadium.
Speaker 2: The next rendition of that matchup with Wisconsin would be
Speaker 2: played at Camp Randall Stadium. So we're going to hear
Speaker 2: a lot more of that, especially as it relates to
Speaker 2: non conference games. And I suspect the next story here
Speaker 2: from John Wilner at the San Jose Mercury News will
Speaker 2: become something that we have to talk a lot more
Speaker 2: about as well as it relates to how the hell
Speaker 2: are we going to pull this off amid a pandemic.
Speaker 2: Like we acknowledge on a previous show, there's an element
Speaker 2: of risk that that much I think is assumed. It's
Speaker 2: just an everyday life. We're going to have to deal
Speaker 2: with that. John Wilner gets into what we talked about
Speaker 2: on our will there Be College Football show, and it
Speaker 2: relates to testing. I'll say this right now, Ty, I
Speaker 2: say every single American college football game scheduled for Western
Speaker 2: Europe coming.
Speaker 1: Back to the States. You said it's going to be
Speaker 1: more of the norm. I will say I'll say one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of them, Tie, thank you. Of all those
Speaker 1: games talking Barcelona, you're talking, Gosh, I'm gonna we're going
Speaker 1: to have a college football game in Leone this year.
Speaker 2: Can we even do our jokes anymore about Lehi Lafayette
Speaker 2: being played in the Tokyo don't probably know.
Speaker 1: Those aren't jokes. That's just reality. Tie, that's just reality.
Speaker 1: They're not going to cancel that all that back. That's essential,
Speaker 1: essential competition overseas. Yeah, no, that's obviously things are going
Speaker 1: to be moved to the safest possible places. And it
Speaker 1: does make sense to move to Annapolis. And yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right about the John Wilner story. He spoke to George
Speaker 1: Rutherford at UC San Francisco, who is an a pedio epidemiologist.
Speaker 1: You got it. You know, we I say I'm dumb,
Speaker 1: This guy seems smart. This seems like one of the
Speaker 1: smarter people. And he laid out an ideal week and
Speaker 1: ideal plan for how college and he's a college football fan,
Speaker 1: how programs can go about testing responsibly and with you know,
Speaker 1: ideal timing. And that's early in the week on Monday,
Speaker 1: that's Wednesday, that's seventy two hours before kickoff, because when
Speaker 1: you talk about the times, how long it takes to
Speaker 1: sort of become contagious, you want that seventy two hour window.
Speaker 1: And then Saturday morning before games and he and John
Speaker 1: Wilner sort of priced it out at being a little
Speaker 1: about half a million dollars for the season, depending on
Speaker 1: how many people you test, and if you're going all school,
Speaker 1: year long, and every single athletic department employee closer to
Speaker 1: like five six million dollars. So it's an expenditure, but
Speaker 1: it's also an investment I suppose in both health and
Speaker 1: having television broadcast football and other sports.
Speaker 2: It does beg the question if you go the six
Speaker 2: million dollar route, and again marketing back to our previous episode,
Speaker 2: go back, listen to the show we did on will
Speaker 2: there be a college football season in twenty twenty? If
Speaker 2: you are Ohio State or Texas and you're pulling down
Speaker 2: nine zeros with your athletic department, of course you don't
Speaker 2: want to spend five or six million dollars if you
Speaker 2: go the more aggressive route, right, But I think that's
Speaker 2: an investment you make because you can and it benefits you.
Speaker 2: You almost have to. But if you're Arkansas State, if
Speaker 2: your revenue is three and a half million dollars a year,
Speaker 2: if maybe even a half million dollars on the low
Speaker 2: end is too much for you to invest, do you
Speaker 2: just scrap the whole damn thing.
Speaker 1: No, it's a good point, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: it will take in terms of loans, in terms of
Speaker 1: cooperation with states, or funding from states who are also
Speaker 1: invested in the success of athletic departments in football from
Speaker 1: these major colleges. Something will be worked out. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're going to hear too many stories about Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess North Texas is just gonna not test kids.
Speaker 1: That's just the route they're taking and they're still going
Speaker 1: to play. I don't think we're gonna see those stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. The only other tidbit here we have
Speaker 2: to mention it. As we said at the top, it's
Speaker 2: a weird backdrop right now. But amid some of the
Speaker 2: disturbances down in Atlanta, the College Foopbleball of Fame was
Speaker 2: damaged by protesters. I read up on this as best
Speaker 2: I could. Doesn't seem like the damage is terrible. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you don't want any damage at all, But hopefully that
Speaker 2: can be restored to all of its former glory and
Speaker 2: continue being a shrine for college football fans.
Speaker 1: I've been told the only thing missing are the Notre
Speaker 1: Dame and Oregon National Championship College football playoff trophies. I've
Speaker 1: been told those are gone. They exist, Ty, trust me,
Speaker 1: but they're not there, not yet. I am ready to
Speaker 1: move on to questions. If you are. I don't have
Speaker 1: anything else. I would love to move on to questions. Ty,
Speaker 1: what a treat? Congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail. You've got mail.
Speaker 1: On the Solid Verbal Dan as often as we can,
Speaker 1: and now maybe a little bit more often than ever before.
Speaker 2: Solid Verbal at gmail dot com. You can also find
Speaker 2: us on Instagram, on Facebook, on Twitter, all the usual
Speaker 2: social media hotspots. We put out a siren call for
Speaker 2: your questions for college football, for sort of college football related,
Speaker 2: for non college football related. We're really running the full
Speaker 2: gamut here, Dan, Sure gonna start with an individual who
Speaker 2: labeled themselves as lifes for fun?
Speaker 1: Is it not? It's for fun?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the open transfer market with
Speaker 2: a one year penalty? Now, good question, That is the
Speaker 2: way the question is written. I'm wondering if it was
Speaker 2: intended to be without a one year penalty. Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: talk about it without We can talk about it and without.
Speaker 2: So currently it's kinda like this with a one year penalty. Currently,
Speaker 2: if you transfer out, if you get your release if
Speaker 2: you sign on with a new team.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to sit out a season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been recent except to that rule, justin
Speaker 2: Fields and Tate Martel and there are a number of
Speaker 2: other folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hardship waivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it even varies from conference to conference. That's
Speaker 2: the current system. I think you and I are still
Speaker 2: in agreement. We've been in agreement for a while that
Speaker 2: that system is somewhat antiquated.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, Yeah, especially as we see the NIL stuff
Speaker 1: come forward, there's going to be more player power there.
Speaker 1: I think there is more energy and momentum behind player power,
Speaker 1: so I would expect that too. Even though I think
Speaker 1: it was shelved for the time being, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to go through and I think I'm for it. Ty.
Speaker 1: If somebody wants to leave, they want to leave. It's
Speaker 1: good for the program for somebody who doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be there to be able to go. And I know
Speaker 1: there's always going to be fears about free agency and
Speaker 1: what an open market means, but I think it's all right.
Speaker 1: I think everybody's going to be all right. You want
Speaker 1: players who want to be at your program. It will
Speaker 1: hold school, coaching staffs, athletic departments more accountable to be
Speaker 1: as good as they possibly can be to players, academic support.
Speaker 1: I don't think players want. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times players leave because it's not just saying, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not I got beat out to start at safety. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to this other program where I think I
Speaker 1: have a better chance. I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: times players just they don't fit in with the locker room.
Speaker 1: Maybe the coach who recruited them left. I think there's
Speaker 1: all sorts of they don't like the weather, they don't
Speaker 1: like the campus. And yes, it is better when people
Speaker 1: just in general stick things out if the initial impression
Speaker 1: isn't good, but it's also college football. If somebody wants
Speaker 1: to be more comfortable somewhere else and they're positive they
Speaker 1: will be, I'm okay with that movement and having immediate
Speaker 1: eligibility at least once, that's.
Speaker 2: Fine, right, And that is the proposal, right, And so
Speaker 2: if we reword the question a little bit here, if
Speaker 2: or iver Ball are meant to ask about the open
Speaker 2: market without that one year penalty. That's been the proposal
Speaker 2: that's been floating around since well officially the beginning of
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: Probably a lot longer than that.
Speaker 2: Under that rule, you would essentially get one freebie, you
Speaker 2: get one Hall pass, you can get your transfer release,
Speaker 2: you can go elsewhere, you can play immediately, but you
Speaker 2: can only do it once. And the NCAA has talked
Speaker 2: about it. They decided to put that proposal on the
Speaker 2: back burner as soon as they think they can enact.
Speaker 2: It would be the twenty twenty one slash twenty two
Speaker 2: academic year. I like it, actually, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: I think we are of one mind on this particular issue.
Speaker 2: It begs the question. I know we've had people write
Speaker 2: in and say, well that Kirk Herbstreet. By the way,
Speaker 2: he hasn't written in, but I know he's done all
Speaker 2: sorts of pearl clutching on FRS. Well, you know right,
Speaker 2: it's not the it's not the spirit of the game whatever.
Speaker 2: Like coaches can leave whenever they want. And I do
Speaker 2: like the fact that it balances things out a little
Speaker 2: bit more in the favor of the player.
Speaker 1: I just can't understand, like, if I looked at the
Speaker 1: Oregon roster, if you looked at the Notre Dame roster,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine looking at the roster and saying, oh God,
Speaker 1: I hope we can hold on to him. I hope
Speaker 1: he doesn't leave. You can't live your life and fear
Speaker 1: like that, Oh what happens if the free agency becomes
Speaker 1: a thing in college football that ruins You can't live
Speaker 1: your life and fear like that. Just enjoy your team,
Speaker 1: enjoy your roster. If somebody doesn't want to be there
Speaker 1: and they want to go somewhere else, so be it.
Speaker 1: Find somebody to replace them. Maybe your coaches shouldn't be
Speaker 1: terrible if that's something that weighs in on them. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking specifically about Brian Kelly Tye. Just can't live
Speaker 1: you can't worry about the hypothetical that there's something that
Speaker 1: we have no idea about is going to ruin the sport.
Speaker 1: Because this is my worldview and this is my prediction.
Speaker 2: Just move on the question I would ask for, and
Speaker 2: not specifically Kirk Curvestreet, but folks who say that this
Speaker 2: violates the spirit of the game. Yeah, how do we
Speaker 2: feel about coaches who leave after one year? Is that
Speaker 2: in the spirit of the spirit of the game? Are
Speaker 2: we okay with that? Everyone should's cool with that. There's
Speaker 2: not a rule where you got to stay with a program.
Speaker 2: For two years or anything like that. So I don't
Speaker 2: know that would be my question back. I'm okay with this.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the unintended consequences would be, but
Speaker 2: I'm willing to find out, just to give players a
Speaker 2: little bit more say in their futures a.
Speaker 1: Lot of fun. Couple weeks after signing day in which,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, now we've decided to get rid of our
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Oh now we've decided to politely push out
Speaker 1: our wide receivers coach. Weird how that happens every year
Speaker 1: right after signing day, right after players sign up to
Speaker 1: play for somebody moving on Red Cup rights in as
Speaker 1: Red Cup Rebellion are good friends at the Old Miss site?
Speaker 2: What should we expect as Old Miss fans from Lane
Speaker 2: Kiffen in year one? Yeah, the low hanging fruit is
Speaker 2: a lot more snark and probably trash talk on Twitter
Speaker 2: and maybe press conferences.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was going to say, speaking of leaving after
Speaker 1: one year, let's move on to Lane Kiffin. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: should we expeck from Lane Kiffin in year one? I
Speaker 1: assume the question is what should we expect from Ole
Speaker 1: Miss and a Lane Kiffin Ole Miss squad in year one.
Speaker 1: It's a brutal schedule. I don't know if you had
Speaker 1: a chance to look at it. It's especially that first
Speaker 1: half of the season. It's pretty front loaded, and they
Speaker 1: get a big twelve championship contender from last year to
Speaker 1: start the season in Baylor. I believe at your favorite
Speaker 1: stadium in Houston the nerg So it all goes to
Speaker 1: plan scheduling wise, I think ole Miss is going to
Speaker 1: be a bowlish team if everything breaks their way. If
Speaker 1: they're able to beat a good team, they should be bowlish.
Speaker 1: They have to figure out what they're doing at quarterback. Obviously,
Speaker 1: John Reese Plumley had a very promising year, largely with
Speaker 1: his feet though, which is not necessarily the focus of
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's. And he brings over the offensive coordinator. I
Speaker 1: think his name is Jeff Levy from UCF. I hope
Speaker 1: I didn't get that name wrong. DJ Diurkins taking over
Speaker 1: the defense, or at least partially it's the co defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: They need to get a lot better in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They return a bunch of linebackers. They lost a bunch
Speaker 1: of good dudes up front on defense. I think year
Speaker 1: one you want to at least solidify and just have
Speaker 1: hope that the secondary has gotten better and that there
Speaker 1: appears to be a plan on offense. Elijah Moore is good,
Speaker 1: the receivers, the young receivers appear to be promising. So
Speaker 1: just a cohesive plan on offense and a little bit
Speaker 1: more organization on the back end, I think is a
Speaker 1: reasonable expectation, given that saying yeah, I'll Wight in four
Speaker 1: seems pretty unrealistic against this schedule. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to this question, Dan, I
Speaker 2: racked my brain here. I don't know the answer, but
Speaker 2: I can tell you what I'm most interested in.
Speaker 1: I think they'll recruit well. I think they'll recruit well.
Speaker 2: I'm most interested in what he does with John Reese
Speaker 2: Plumbley at quarterback. Sure, because this is not a typical
Speaker 2: lane kiffing quarterback. This is a kid who had more
Speaker 2: rushing attempts than passing attempts last year. To have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to get creative with him, He's obviously a.
Speaker 1: Multi sports star.
Speaker 2: For what it's worth, John Reese plumbly is excited to
Speaker 2: be working with link Kivin. Not that he'd ever say otherwise,
Speaker 2: but I'm curious to see what that collaborative effort looks
Speaker 2: like and what John Reese plumbly looks like after a
Speaker 2: year under Lane Kiffin, if it changes at all, hopefully
Speaker 2: he'd find a way to better balance him out and
Speaker 2: get more out of the passing game. But I honestly
Speaker 2: don't know, which is why I'm most interested in it.
Speaker 1: So it's a good guest's gotten he has gotten relatively
Speaker 1: impressive results from non sure thing passers. Yes, okay, m
Speaker 1: BALTI sure. By the way, some of these are from Instagram,
Speaker 1: which we really haven't drawn questions from in the past,
Speaker 1: and I got to say our Instagram crowd, and that's
Speaker 1: by the way, follow solid verbal on Instagram. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? Pause the show? Follow solidverbal on Instagram. We're
Speaker 1: posting basically every day. You can see how mediocre my
Speaker 1: photoshop skills are and how outstanding my video editing skills
Speaker 1: are followed solidverble on Instagram. And I believe this also
Speaker 1: comes to us from Instagram, though maybe it's redit.
Speaker 2: What does proof of concept for Georgia Tech look like
Speaker 2: this year? So when I checked out Georgia Tech for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, you might remember they got a new coach
Speaker 2: from Temple a year ago in twenty nineteen, Jeff Collins,
Speaker 2: good guy, good coach. This might be the toughest schedule
Speaker 2: in the country.
Speaker 1: It's real bad.
Speaker 2: The proof of concept here might might be more of
Speaker 2: like moral victories on offense and defense, Like do they
Speaker 2: get better on offense? Do they get better on defense?
Speaker 2: Because they've got Clemson, UCF, they're on the road at
Speaker 2: North Carolina and Virginia Tech. They play Notre Dame in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Miami at home, and they're on the road at Georgia. That,
Speaker 2: my friend, is brutal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Atlanta, but not at Bobby Dodd correct.
Speaker 2: It was a tough ask a year ago to move
Speaker 2: move from Paul Johnson to more of a spread. Look,
Speaker 2: the personnel just wasn't there last year. Plus they had
Speaker 2: a ton of injuries on the offensive line this year.
Speaker 2: It just has to improve. It has to get better.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how James Graham looks at quarterback
Speaker 2: after getting a year under his belt. And defensively, they
Speaker 2: got to show more teeth against the run. I think
Speaker 2: if they do any of those things, it's a step forward.
Speaker 2: Any of those things would be an effective, a viable
Speaker 2: proof of concept for moving this thing forward in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 1: So one of the things you see when you read
Speaker 1: or watch Jeff Collins is a repeated desire to get bigger, longer, stronger.
Speaker 1: It's a different system. This is the I'm sure on
Speaker 1: every single Georgia Tech board and conversation. It's like transitioning
Speaker 1: from the flex Moon to what Jeff Collins is trying
Speaker 1: to do on offense and defense for that matter. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to recruit, they're trying to develop, they're trying
Speaker 1: to build bigger athletes whatever to transition. That's difficult right
Speaker 1: now when you are not on campus and you don't
Speaker 1: have office and workouts. I think the biggest thing might
Speaker 1: just be discipline. I know that's a vague term, but
Speaker 1: do you know who led the nation in turnover margin
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen? You probably don't. I do not off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. It's arguably the bad team
Speaker 1: that became the most promising team in terms of results.
Speaker 1: And this was also a team that I think went
Speaker 1: nine to three against the spread, which means that they
Speaker 1: were constantly underestimated and kept things close more often than not.
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Oregon State led the don't quote me if
Speaker 1: it's turnover margin might just be they led the nation
Speaker 1: in fewest turnovers lost. I know turnovers can be random,
Speaker 1: but also there are no random fumble bounces. If you
Speaker 1: don't fumble the ball, if the ball doesn't pop out,
Speaker 1: you can't fumble the ball as far as I can tell.
Speaker 1: If your quarterback is getting more comfortable in your system,
Speaker 1: presumably he's going to throw fewer interceptions. And when you
Speaker 1: give the ball away less and Georgia Tech certainly gave
Speaker 1: the ball away a ton in twenty nineteen, give yourself
Speaker 1: a shot. You keep games close. I think proof of
Speaker 1: concept is going to be what does Georgia Tech's record
Speaker 1: against the spread look like? And as weird as that
Speaker 1: is to say, with this actual schedule looking as difficult
Speaker 1: as it does, if they're staying within a couple touchdowns
Speaker 1: against Georgia, Notre Dame, and Clemson, if they're competitive with
Speaker 1: them for a half a quarter and a half, and
Speaker 1: their players appear to be in the right place, if
Speaker 1: their linebackers are getting run over instead of juked, instead
Speaker 1: of running the wrong direction, things like that to me
Speaker 1: are little things. We're just like, Yes, of course, Travis
Speaker 1: etn is impossible to tackle, but at least he was
Speaker 1: in the right lane. At least the run fits were correct.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that, and maybe it takes a rewatch of
Speaker 1: a game to say, yeah, we just got beat by
Speaker 1: flat out amazing players. That's improvement. And I think Georgia
Speaker 1: Tech showed some of that last year. I just don't
Speaker 1: think they have those dudes yet on either side of
Speaker 1: the ball. But they're recruiting really well. I think they
Speaker 1: had a blue chip quarterback from Tallahassee. I want to say,
Speaker 1: Jeff Simms. He's going to be a freshman, and the
Speaker 1: early word on him is pretty impressive. So stuff like that,
Speaker 1: we're just like, Okay, I see what they're going for.
Speaker 1: If you watch a Georgia Tech game and you're like,
Speaker 1: they're not there, but I get it, that's a proof
Speaker 1: of concept. In twenty twenty, all.
Speaker 2: Right, chances that Penn State wins the Big Ten. This
Speaker 2: one comes to us from David. Yes, So, David, if
Speaker 2: you take the Vegas slant on this one, Penn State
Speaker 2: is at six to one to win the Big Ten. Now,
Speaker 2: Ohio State is negative two forty, which basically means you
Speaker 2: got a bet two hundred and forty dollars to win
Speaker 2: one hundred. They're an overwhelming favorite to win the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: After Penn State, you've got Michigan at thirteen to two,
Speaker 2: You've got Wisconsin at ten to one, which, honestly, Wisconsin
Speaker 2: at ten to one seems like pretty good bet just
Speaker 2: to get value. That's not the worst bet in the
Speaker 2: world for Penn State.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: It comes down to the month of October. They're at Michigan,
Speaker 2: then they're on buy, then they're home against Iowa and
Speaker 2: Ohio State on back to back weeks. If they can
Speaker 2: get through that gauntlet in October, that gives them their
Speaker 2: best shot for doing it. That's what they would need
Speaker 2: to do. There's some other games later in the year
Speaker 2: could be tricky. I think on the road at Nebraska
Speaker 2: and then maybe the next week back home against Michigan State.
Speaker 2: I don't have the schedule in front of him, but
Speaker 2: it's something like that, Yeah, you're one coach of Michigan State. Yeah, yeah, So,
Speaker 2: I mean there are some tricky spots elsewhere. There's an
Speaker 2: early game on the road at Lane Stadium against Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: Not a conference game, sure, but we'll get a better
Speaker 2: sense for what Penn State is this should be a
Speaker 2: good team. They're good on defense. I don't expect they're
Speaker 2: gonna dip it all on defense.
Speaker 1: Shaka Tony's back, right, Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Got a shore up there. They're like passing defense. They
Speaker 2: got to give up fewer back breaking pass plays. I
Speaker 2: guess they got to get the offense figured out because
Speaker 2: they've got a new offensive coordinator in Kurt Shiraka. But
Speaker 2: there's a lot back and so I feel good about
Speaker 2: their chances to be in that conversation, But the month
Speaker 2: of October looms pretty large here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they couldn't bring Tanner Morgan over to
Speaker 1: prevent him, and they're not playing Minnesota to prevent Minnesota
Speaker 1: from at least in the first half, rocking that secondary.
Speaker 1: So they hired Kirk Sharaka, and I just dude, wise,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a healthy amount on both sides. And
Speaker 1: I like Penn State up front on defense. Although YGM
Speaker 1: is gone, right, he's tol ros Montos He's gone, but
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is one of the absolute best defensive players
Speaker 1: in the country. Johan Dotson's probably the go to guy
Speaker 1: on offense with kJ Hamler gone, but Pat Fryermuth is back.
Speaker 1: I think he's what a sophomore junior this year, I believe.
Speaker 1: So they've got a couple guys who are interesting. Do
Speaker 1: they have a back breaking dude on offense? Because I
Speaker 1: maybe is the best answer I can give right now,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I fully trust Sean Clifford.
Speaker 1: But I anticipate improvement with Shiraka. But that might also
Speaker 1: be me just not giving Tanner Morgan enough credit. So
Speaker 1: I I think I would put Penn State's odds as
Speaker 1: not great because generally speaking before a season, i'd like
Speaker 1: an obvious dude to point to they should have a
Speaker 1: really good backfield. Yeah, I think it's deep and talented.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they'll be fine. In terms
Speaker 2: of offensive weaponry, I do. I do share your question
Speaker 2: though about particularly the dude out wide like Pat Fryermuth
Speaker 2: gives him a lot in the passing game. You can
Speaker 2: play him as a wide.
Speaker 1: Out, but sure big target down the middle.
Speaker 2: You know, dot, since somebody needs a step up and
Speaker 2: they need to get more of that vertical threat.
Speaker 1: I don't think Ricky Slade has actually gone anywhere yet.
Speaker 1: Has he has he announced where he's transferring to?
Speaker 2: Okay, not that I'm aware of Okay, we'll see, Okay,
Speaker 2: where you want to go next? Dan, I've been asking
Speaker 2: all the questions.
Speaker 1: Do you want to go a little bit Homer right now?
Speaker 1: Because you have both a Notre Dame and an Oregon question,
Speaker 1: Let's go out west for an Oregon question, and then
Speaker 1: we'll go back to you for a Notre Dame question.
Speaker 1: Mason Vandy wants to know how does Mario Christaball's offensive
Speaker 1: line look next year after losing four starters at Oregon.
Speaker 1: Pretty good? It is pretty good. Last year's was excellent.
Speaker 1: Quarterback is probably the bigger question to me. They return
Speaker 1: basically all of their skill guys other than Penn State
Speaker 1: transferred Juwan Johnson and their starting tight end got hurt
Speaker 1: in the middle of last season. But upfront, Oregon has
Speaker 1: recruited well. They red shirted a talented tackle last year.
Speaker 1: They had the number one offensive lineman from the junior
Speaker 1: college ranks red shirt last year as well. They brought
Speaker 1: in I think a junior college center, so he'll battle
Speaker 1: things out. He might play center, he might play guard.
Speaker 1: They're not going to be nearly as deep as they were.
Speaker 1: They weren't just talented up front last year. They were
Speaker 1: deep with talent, so there'll be a lot of youth
Speaker 1: that is relied on as rotation pieces. But I think
Speaker 1: ultimately what they have in Joe Morehead as an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and you know this from following Penn State and
Speaker 1: their own offensive line struggles. His system gets the ball
Speaker 1: out of the quarterback's hands quickly. It's misleading, there's misdirection,
Speaker 1: there's that RPO action that the line won't be counted
Speaker 1: on to be amazing what he got out of the
Speaker 1: line and what he got out of the running game
Speaker 1: with Saquon Barkley. And trust me, Orgon does not have
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I think leads me to believe that they
Speaker 1: should be at worst like a B plus. I don't
Speaker 1: know much about but you know Joe Morehead, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're still a little bit bitter that he went
Speaker 1: to Oregon and not Notre Dame. I get it a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he what he brings to Oregon.
Speaker 2: It feels like a very natural fit. And maybe that's
Speaker 2: just because I have the Chip Kelly Oregon era fresh
Speaker 2: on the brain after all of our First Place Loser
Speaker 2: style podcast that we've done, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm our East Coast small school offensive mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what it does with that offense.
Speaker 1: Does Brian Kelly have what it takes to win? I
Speaker 1: assume he means the national championship at Notre Dame because
Speaker 1: he's won plenty, But that seems to be that.
Speaker 2: Piece, I think so, I've I've felt that way for
Speaker 2: a while. I think since Kelly took over, the overall
Speaker 2: talent on the Notre Dame roster has improved exponentially. They're
Speaker 2: deeper now than they've ever been at any point before.
Speaker 2: The one question, the outstanding question that I have about
Speaker 2: this team is a quarterback position, and can they recruit
Speaker 2: that game changing core or back to come in and
Speaker 2: take Notre Dame to the next level. I feel like
Speaker 2: that's really held them back.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Ian Book is going to be the first three year
Speaker 2: consecutive starter that Brian Kelly's had in his tenure at
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. If Tommy Reese can better tap into what
Speaker 2: Ian Book has as a downfield passer, that would put
Speaker 2: the offense in a much better spot. We know that
Speaker 2: they can rely on his legs to some extent, so
Speaker 2: I think there is certainly reason for optimism there. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that happens this year, but I do
Speaker 2: think just in general, as a coach, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: he has one for sure.
Speaker 1: So yes, obviously he's led a team to a national
Speaker 1: championship game and to the College Football Playoff. They didn't
Speaker 1: fully equit themselves all that well in either one of
Speaker 1: those instances, but that's if a coach is getting you there,
Speaker 1: that means obviously he's capable on some level to take
Speaker 1: another step. What would Notre Dame fans or what do
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans in general doubt about. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the Brian Kelly era or the recent Brian
Speaker 1: Kelly teams. Are they so like this year's team? To me,
Speaker 1: it almost seems like it's a similar question to what
Speaker 1: we had about Penn State, like where are the killers
Speaker 1: on offense? Chase Claypool's gone. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have a guy at running back it was at Jafar Armstrong.
Speaker 1: It is he the one who's well, I mean he's back.
Speaker 1: It could be Chris Tyree.
Speaker 2: People are excited about Chris Tyree right in the backfield,
Speaker 2: a freshman running back who comes in with much acclaim.
Speaker 1: But who's writing book throwing to that that is going
Speaker 1: to I don't have their schedule in front of me.
Speaker 1: Do they play Clemson? They do play back in the rotation,
Speaker 1: So like, who is scaring a really good secondary out wide?
Speaker 1: Because as we saw, you know, as we've seen against
Speaker 1: the best teams that Notre Dame plays generally in January,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they just don't exist on the roster.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a different question though, if you're talking about
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in the twenty twenty season versus Brian Kelly
Speaker 2: as coach. Yeah, Notre Dame twenty is a good team.
Speaker 2: They're not going to contend for the national championship.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think they've done a really good job on defense,
Speaker 1: in building and recruiting, in building up depth and building
Speaker 1: up experience. Your guy, what what's his name, Kyle Hamilton
Speaker 1: at safety? He should be full time this year, me,
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. So yeah, they up front, the linebackers were
Speaker 1: really I think they're all new last year. I don't
Speaker 1: rememberize everything, but I think linebackers was a point of
Speaker 1: strength last year for Notre Dame in replacing guys because
Speaker 1: it was what Drew Tranquill the year before, who was
Speaker 1: doing so much for the Irish, And I don't remember
Speaker 1: thinking Notre Dame's linebackers are a liability last year, so
Speaker 1: year over year they seem to do an impressive job
Speaker 1: on defense. It just what does that that threat on
Speaker 1: offense look like, because I don't know if I've seen
Speaker 1: it recently. There's always like a guy, but never like,
Speaker 1: oh man, Notre Dame's got a killer three now on offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see. I don't know, and no, it
Speaker 2: could be wrong. I think Brian Kelly as a coach
Speaker 2: has it, but he is in the position that so
Speaker 2: many other coaches around the country are in and you
Speaker 2: just can't hold them to the same standard as like
Speaker 2: a Dabbo Swinge ar a Nick Saban. At this point,
Speaker 2: they've gotten to the point now where they're continuously in
Speaker 2: that conversation and I think that in and of itself
Speaker 2: is a huge victory for Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Has to his impact at Alabama permanently changed what we
Speaker 1: know the Crimson tide to be. So I assume this
Speaker 1: is Duck caught upstream. This is from Reddit. To his
Speaker 1: impact at Alabama is just this all world quarterback. They've
Speaker 1: spread everything out, they go rpo, They've got these amazing
Speaker 1: receivers and this crazy productive quarterback. So is Alabama a
Speaker 1: wide open program? I suppose on offense? Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the answers.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a weird question because you can't put
Speaker 2: the genie back in the bottle. Like, No, it's not
Speaker 2: just that Alabama has moved on from some of those older,
Speaker 2: more antiquated offenses that they used to run very successfully,
Speaker 2: mind you. Yeah, set, all of college football has moved
Speaker 2: on almost you're also a Greg McElroy apologist. Sure everybody
Speaker 2: knows this, but like, hasn't most of college football moved
Speaker 2: on to some kind of spread system or rpo system,
Speaker 2: Like it's some combination of both. Like it. That's just
Speaker 2: kind of the state of playing college football right now.
Speaker 1: And too, I would say most programs have tried. It's okay,
Speaker 1: fair sporgs have tried.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, but that's that's more the thinking in college
Speaker 2: football as it relates to offenses. Now. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: Tua ran it with It's a great effect, right and
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I think it meant ran the ball. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he ran it and just to an impossible degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just I feel like that's where offenses
Speaker 2: are at as a whole.
Speaker 1: With Alabama specifically, the answer is yes. Nick Saban has
Speaker 1: given quotes when they've brought in new offensive coordinators staff
Speaker 1: that have toyed with the idea of changing things or
Speaker 1: in introducing plays of their own system. Nick Saban has
Speaker 1: been vocal about saying, no, no, this is how we
Speaker 1: do things here. You were brought in to do this.
Speaker 1: You were brought in to be the new guy to
Speaker 1: do what we do. We didn't bring you in to
Speaker 1: change the success we've had. So I would say absolutely,
Speaker 1: And especially when you look at the quarterbacks that they've
Speaker 1: brought in this year. They bring in I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was the number one or number two quarterback
Speaker 1: in the country, but Bryce Young from southern California is
Speaker 1: very much in that mold of athletic game changer. Twitchy
Speaker 1: has a great arm. He is very much a signal
Speaker 1: that Alabama is not going to some sort of overhauled
Speaker 1: new offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, All right, where are we gonna go next.
Speaker 1: Let's go with Alabama's or at least right now opponent
Speaker 1: in Week one A convary. This is very weird to
Speaker 1: get questions from screen names and humans when does USC
Speaker 1: win their next title? And I want to answer this
Speaker 1: question seriously, tie fine, when does USC win their next title?
Speaker 1: So presumably national title, not PAC twelve title, because the
Speaker 1: expectation at USC is national titles. When do they win
Speaker 1: their next title?
Speaker 2: Probably not till they move on from Clay Hilton.
Speaker 1: That's my guess. So it seems that if you're going
Speaker 1: to compete for a national title, if you're going to
Speaker 1: compete to enter the playoff when your conference enter the playoff,
Speaker 1: you're going to need three pretty gangbusters years of recruiting.
Speaker 1: USC is now starting at year one as we speak,
Speaker 1: as they build the twenty twenty one class, which is
Speaker 1: very good. I don't know if you've had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to look at team rankings or specific classes. USC has
Speaker 1: gotten its act together on the recruiting trail. They're getting
Speaker 1: to Oregon levels and that's a great start. Now they
Speaker 1: have I think two blue chip quarterbacks committed to the program.
Speaker 1: I imagine as long as this staff is together, they
Speaker 1: will recruit again pretty well. So if you talk about years,
Speaker 1: if Keaton Slovas is very good, once again, it seems
Speaker 1: like he'll be gone after the twenty twenty one season,
Speaker 1: after his junior year. It also seems Graham Harrell will
Speaker 1: probably be gone, and just because he is going to
Speaker 1: be a commodity in the sport or in the NFL wherever.
Speaker 1: I imagine it's just not in the cards for a
Speaker 1: Clay Helton led Trojan team to get back and win
Speaker 1: a national title. But I imagine that they will start
Speaker 1: putting together and stringing together really talented classes, and I
Speaker 1: would say the absolute earliest is twenty twenty three. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say year two, year three of the new guys,
Speaker 1: so probably closer to twenty five twenty six. If the
Speaker 1: if Clay Helton's out after a year or two, I.
Speaker 2: Was gonna say twenty twenty five without all the logic
Speaker 2: that you put into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just it's smart recruiting with USC too. There
Speaker 1: have been a lot of amazing classes at USC that
Speaker 1: haven't panned out. It's fine the right blue chips, it's
Speaker 1: finding it's putting together really smart classes and finding guys
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Colorado, New Jersey, Tennessee, Florida, not just relying
Speaker 1: on southern California. Just finding the best possible fits to
Speaker 1: maximize Trojan results.
Speaker 2: I am very curious to see how much longer Clay
Speaker 2: Hilton continues as coach, because the one thing that always
Speaker 2: comes up whenever we talk about his performance as a coach,
Speaker 2: it's just that he's like, he's like a he's an adult.
Speaker 2: He's an adult. He's a good guy. People like him. Okay, right,
Speaker 2: he carries himself in a very classy way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, us, he's going to the good guy playoff TI.
Speaker 2: People love Clay Hilton as a human being. How much
Speaker 2: mileage can you get out of that?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: And every year there's kind of like that one quirk. Right,
Speaker 2: this past year he had the injury at quarterback, Heaton Slovis.
Speaker 2: They brought him in. He showed a lot of promise.
Speaker 2: They were starting over on offense to some degree, like
Speaker 2: he had to be right, like he had that card
Speaker 2: that he could play. And now this year moving forward,
Speaker 2: like the recruiting class last year wasn't great, to be honest,
Speaker 2: but moving forward, like you said, it looks like things
Speaker 2: are turning around. They're going in a good direction. If
Speaker 2: us he goes eight and four again, can he point
Speaker 2: to that and say, look, I Uh, I gotta get
Speaker 2: my guys back in here. I gotta, I gotta continue
Speaker 2: with this recruiting class. Is that enough to keep him around? No?
Speaker 1: If you go eight and four with Keden Slovas this
Speaker 1: year and I don't have usc schedule in front of me, Well,
Speaker 1: when we preview everybody, we're going to go deep, deep
Speaker 1: in depth with every division, every conference, whatever. But at
Speaker 1: a certain point you're going to say, we can't waste
Speaker 1: the final year of Keiden Slovas on another PAC twelve
Speaker 1: South runner up type year, and so they're going to
Speaker 1: make a move. He just just barely hung on this
Speaker 1: last time with the new ad giving him another year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be the new guy. All right?
Speaker 2: Where are we gonna go next?
Speaker 1: You love this question. It's from password one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: which I don't have any answer. No, how he knew. No, Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting question to think about, and
Speaker 1: it's a long question, but he wants to know when
Speaker 1: does quarterback and offensive play level out? And he lists
Speaker 1: names like Tim Tebow and Cam Newton and Marcus Mariota
Speaker 1: and Jamis Winston and more recently Joe Burrow to a
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson. We've had just record breaking offensive
Speaker 1: performances and quarterback performances this last I don't know, ten
Speaker 1: twelve years. Will defenses catch up, will things level off?
Speaker 1: That we are just in an era of unprecedented success
Speaker 1: that will eventually come to a close. Our defense is
Speaker 1: now too far behind the eight ball. Have rules gone
Speaker 1: too far in the offensive direction in terms of players
Speaker 1: being scared about targeting and roughing the quarterback and things
Speaker 1: like that, that it's given offenses undue advantages. No easy
Speaker 1: answer to this, but I will point out that it's
Speaker 1: a new era in terms of it. It's actually not
Speaker 1: that new anymore, but the last ten twelve years, it's
Speaker 1: an unprecedented level of both focus on the position. And
Speaker 1: you see where these guys have come from, Georgia and Texas,
Speaker 1: and I guess Ohio in the case of Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: not I guess he's from Ohio. But there are certain
Speaker 1: advantages a lot of these guys have, and whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray having athlete fathers
Speaker 1: and they're just genetically so far ahead and have advantages
Speaker 1: of playing football year round in Texas. With that much
Speaker 1: focus or Cam Newton and the physical advantages that he has,
Speaker 1: and he's a unicorn with quarterbacks. I don't see it
Speaker 1: slowing down anytime soon. But the other thing that I
Speaker 1: think is a key contributor to all of this and
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's going to be slowing down
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Think about how easy it is to hire
Speaker 1: really good coaches. Think about how it is to watch
Speaker 1: film on any school you'd want in the country. Think
Speaker 1: about so, what Mike you're sick is from Shippensburg? Is
Speaker 1: that how you say that it's Shippenberg Shippensburg. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: he goes to Oklahoma State. You have Chip Kelly at
Speaker 1: New Hampshire going to Oregon. You have you know, Gus
Speaker 1: Malson and Chad Morris coming up through the high school ranks.
Speaker 1: It's easier to find out about really smart offensive dudes.
Speaker 1: So it's also easier to find quarterbacks who fit your
Speaker 1: specific kind of system. And so whether it's the Internet,
Speaker 1: whether it's tape, whatever it is, it's just an easier
Speaker 1: time to wreak havoc on offense. Because if we talked
Speaker 1: to Chris Brown all the time from Smart Football, so
Speaker 1: much of this is stealing. It's seeing, you know, a
Speaker 1: team at the Colorado School of Mines run that little
Speaker 1: touch pass and Dana Holgerson hangs seventy on Clemson. It's
Speaker 1: so much easier to just populate your playbook and to
Speaker 1: build a system stealing gets from everywhere and then finding
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who best fit your system. Whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence from Georgia going to South
Speaker 1: Carolina and play for Clemson. It's much easier to find
Speaker 1: that guy for you. So just in terms of that
Speaker 1: stew tie, it's easier to find a ghost pepper. It's
Speaker 1: easier to find tie basil. It's easier to find a
Speaker 1: certain kind of beans. It took a turn means in
Speaker 1: your chili. Yeah, it always does with food. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying recipes are so much easier to come by
Speaker 1: that I don't see it stopping anytime soon unless defenses
Speaker 1: are allowed to do more, which also given safety concerns,
Speaker 1: I also don't see happening. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a complicated answer here. I think you've
Speaker 2: always had guys who were.
Speaker 1: I just gave it. I just gave a complicated answer.
Speaker 2: You've always had guys who were physically gifted, right, We
Speaker 2: see it all the time in college football. You got
Speaker 2: one guy, you win a national championship if he's good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and incoming high school talent definitely farther along now
Speaker 2: than at any point I can ever remember. It's just
Speaker 2: there's more of an infrastructure at a lower level of
Speaker 2: football than at any point I can ever remember. They
Speaker 2: come into college, they're they're much better prepared physically, mentally,
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. So that that much is definitely
Speaker 2: a contributing factor. But I think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: supporting evidence that the rules have definitely put offenses at
Speaker 2: an advantage. Just look at the NFL. Look at the NFL.
Speaker 2: They've changed the rule book to some degree, and it's
Speaker 2: now much much more of a passing league than at
Speaker 2: any point before. Also, keep in mind that a lot
Speaker 2: of what you see on Sundays is now openly stolen
Speaker 2: from what you see on Saturdays. The NFL just on
Speaker 2: thost Fridays. Yeah, closely mimicking what they see at the
Speaker 2: college level because they know it works. And so no,
Speaker 2: I don't think it slows down anytime soon. Also, the
Speaker 2: structure of these college offenses is such that it is
Speaker 2: really trying to put guys in space. The whole thing
Speaker 2: is about space, and that favors teams with great athletes.
Speaker 2: That favors teams that can go out and recruit versatility,
Speaker 2: and it definitely puts smaller schools of a disadvantage when
Speaker 2: they can't get those athletes. I don't think it's going
Speaker 2: to slow on anytime soon. I'm curious to see if
Speaker 2: it does take a rule change or I don't know,
Speaker 2: something else to try and slow this down. But no,
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see it slowed.
Speaker 1: Down, especially since by and large this is not everybody,
Speaker 1: but a good amount of people prefer watching games with
Speaker 1: amazing quarterbacks and fewer games with amazing inside linebackers. There
Speaker 1: are people who prefer great defensive play to offensive play.
Speaker 1: They're people, too, ty But in terms of the sports watchability,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we could see a rule change with
Speaker 1: RPOs and how many line how many yards pass the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage offensive linemen go with regard to illegal
Speaker 1: player downfield. That kind of thing, I guess could affect
Speaker 1: successes of unpredictable RPOs, stuff like that, But otherwise I
Speaker 1: think the powers that be in college football are pretty
Speaker 1: happy to be living in a renaissance of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are also living through an extraordinary period of
Speaker 2: college football where you've got like five or six juggernauts
Speaker 2: and they just keep replenishing year after year. Quarterbacks coming
Speaker 2: into these systems like Clemson, if you want to use
Speaker 2: them as an example, Clemson was already pulling down five
Speaker 2: stars before Trevor Lawrence showed up and other five stars
Speaker 2: had to leave. That's the caliber of player they're getting.
Speaker 2: After Trevor Lawrence leaves, presumably after this year for the draft,
Speaker 2: they've got another five star waiting in the wings that's
Speaker 2: going to perform at just as high level, if not better.
Speaker 2: So we are living through this era of incredible offensive
Speaker 2: advantage and quarterbacks going to these schools that are already
Speaker 2: loaded to the teeth.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're sick of Clemson, Alabama,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, whatever, the only thing that will
Speaker 1: beat those The only thing that a smaller school can
Speaker 1: do to beat a school like any of those schools
Speaker 1: consistently with the amount of talent each of those places have,
Speaker 1: is to stumble upon a transcendent quarterback. I guess Texas
Speaker 1: A and M did in Johnny Manziel in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: I believe, is the year that they recruited him. He
Speaker 1: was a freshman, the year he red shirted. That's the
Speaker 1: only way that somebody can will their team that has
Speaker 1: a distinct talent advantage or a distinct scheme advantage. We
Speaker 1: saw it with Ole miss and what they're able to
Speaker 1: do with their offense circa what with Doctor Bow and
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen. There the offense is the only
Speaker 1: thing really to me, and they had great defenses at
Speaker 1: that time too, but it was the offense that was succeeding.
Speaker 1: With Evan Ingram and Chad Kelly, skis like that that
Speaker 1: can really open up the sport and make it as
Speaker 1: unpredictable as people want. Otherwise, if we're just talking about
Speaker 1: defensive talent, where you're gonna see a lot more of
Speaker 1: Alabama and Clemson and Georgia and Ohio State, which I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody really really wants if you're not fans
Speaker 1: of those teams.
Speaker 2: All right, last football question, then there are at least
Speaker 2: two quick non college football ones that I just need
Speaker 2: to talk about.
Speaker 1: All right, do you want to do the wand question?
Speaker 1: The wand question?
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna ask about Kyler Murray versus Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm taking Lamar, but continue.
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson. This one comes to us from Zach.
Speaker 2: You got to pick one to win you a big game.
Speaker 1: Who you got? Uh? The one who has won the
Speaker 1: MVP of the National That's the one I know, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, are we talking about today, Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Speaker 1: Lamar versus Oklahoma Kyler? How are you interpreting this? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm interpreting it college version version, both of who they
Speaker 2: were in college, both won the Heisman. I'm partial to
Speaker 2: Lamar here because he's so gifted as a runner, and
Speaker 2: he more than makes up for his sometimes lack of
Speaker 2: passing accuracy.
Speaker 1: He was raw in college at times.
Speaker 2: He's still raw to some degree, but he's just so
Speaker 2: gifted as a runner. You would legit have a chance
Speaker 2: against any team. You could just put him back there
Speaker 2: in a shotgun and let him run fifty times. He's
Speaker 2: that good as a runner. The key thing for me
Speaker 2: and the reason I think I go Lamar is we've
Speaker 2: seen him put a team on his back without much
Speaker 2: of a supporting cast, and we've seen the results there.
Speaker 2: That's the distinction.
Speaker 1: Louisville.
Speaker 2: You might remember they were up late against a national
Speaker 2: championship Clempson team. We talked about them a few episodes ago,
Speaker 2: like Louisville's not coming back in that game and taking
Speaker 2: a lead against Clemson. If Kyle Bollen is your quarterback,
Speaker 2: like he was just such a transcendent player at the
Speaker 2: college level that I can't look past it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. They're the only difference. We're splitting hairs
Speaker 1: here because Kyler Murray was an incredible, incredible college player.
Speaker 1: The big difference to me is you watch Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and I'll say I watch Lamar Jackson and I immediately
Speaker 1: say I would do anything to wear the same uniform
Speaker 1: as him. What it must be like to be on
Speaker 1: his team must be so great. I would do anything
Speaker 1: for him to be my quarterback. And I don't quite
Speaker 1: feel that with Kyler Murray. That's the only difference. What
Speaker 1: was the wand question? Oh, somebody asked if we could
Speaker 1: wave a magic wand and give any program Alabama levels
Speaker 1: of success, which program would it be? The Lafayette fighting Leopards.
Speaker 1: I didn't see answer. Yeah, Trey asked that question. So
Speaker 1: if you're talking about which fan base seems deserving or
Speaker 1: that we can't give out a fan base without a
Speaker 1: rival fan base saying like, actually they're the worst. Actually
Speaker 1: that is the worst. So I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a long suffering fan base that you would feel particularly
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about giving unprecedented levels of success.
Speaker 2: Who are the Cubs of college football.
Speaker 1: That haven't won in forever? And yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of people would argue Cubs fans are obnoxious.
Speaker 1: I'm married into a Cubs family, so I think they're
Speaker 1: charming and wonderful. Sure, long suffering. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: one of the major schools in Florida. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a team in the SEC.
Speaker 1: I think it would get real rough if Tennessee all
Speaker 1: of a sudden started winning again. But I kind of
Speaker 1: want to see it from an entertainment standpoint, what the
Speaker 1: college football universe looks like if Tennessee and everything that
Speaker 1: comes along with just crazy amounts of success, national championship
Speaker 1: levels of success, What happens, what level of flip turned
Speaker 1: up side down universe happens if Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 2: give it to an SEC school though. That's the thing, Okay,
Speaker 2: Like I kind of feel like we need a school
Speaker 2: like that out in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: It would be great for Colorado to come back, but
Speaker 1: I don't just I don't feel like there's a fervor
Speaker 1: for it that would I don't think it would be
Speaker 1: as appreciated as some other programs, but it'd be great
Speaker 1: Colorado did it.
Speaker 2: There is such an impulse here to just pick a
Speaker 2: program that's down and out or a really small school program,
Speaker 2: like let's pick Boise State and give it to that.
Speaker 2: Like there really is that inclination to do it. But
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. I need That's a great question.
Speaker 2: Trey asked it. Trey asked it right.
Speaker 1: Got to think more about that. Rutgers is there for it.
Speaker 1: There's no fervor. There is just no Rutgers football ferv
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's pockets, but generally speaking, there's no fervor.
Speaker 2: I need to think more about this. Good question, very
Speaker 2: good question.
Speaker 1: What about a re emergence to the forefront of Mac
Speaker 1: Brown and the Tar Hills. But is there a fur
Speaker 1: no fervor. But I mean that's still a pretty big
Speaker 1: sports school.
Speaker 2: It is u NC. I got to think more about
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, I would what if the tables were flipped.
Speaker 1: I know you said you weren't thinking SEC, but what
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, South Carolina just reversed everything
Speaker 1: in that state and became a power?
Speaker 2: Be interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a school that's been dominated by a
Speaker 1: rival and doesn't just flip it on the rival, but
Speaker 1: flips it on all of college football. So Washington Michigan,
Speaker 1: there's definitely fervors with both of those fan bases. Michigan
Speaker 1: fully flips the script on Ryan Day and Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I mean this is science fiction, obviously, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: think a school like that that has been so down
Speaker 1: and out in Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State would be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Not the most likable program, but for a
Speaker 1: fan base that is passionate about the Pokes. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then to turn the tide on on Boomer Sooner. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that kind of school that else can't get
Speaker 1: over on their rival not only gets over on their rival,
Speaker 1: but becomes a national power. That's great.
Speaker 2: How much time do we got for non college football questions?
Speaker 1: Kit a few minutes? Okay, if you're tuned in to
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Speaker 2: We got this question from Adam. Yeah, I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about this all day, all day.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He says he recently hooked up his old Sega and
Speaker 2: he's remembering how infuriating Sonic the Hedgehog was, especially the
Speaker 2: level with the water. All these years later, I still
Speaker 2: haven't cleared it. What video game from your childhood do
Speaker 2: you recall giving you absolute fits? I suspect you and
Speaker 2: I could do a full podcast on this particular question.
Speaker 1: I didn't have the patience for a lot of RPGs.
Speaker 1: I just didn't tie. I don't know if you were
Speaker 1: big on Final Fantasy and all the no the Zelda
Speaker 1: games and all of that stuff. I just I didn't
Speaker 1: have it in me I had. I think those gave
Speaker 1: me the patience element, gave me fits.
Speaker 2: I had a long dark period of my early childhood
Speaker 2: life trying to figure out that in King's Quest you
Speaker 2: had to throw the iceberg lettuce into the boiling spring
Speaker 2: in order to get through it.
Speaker 1: It just feels like it's such. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: it's a waste of time because I love video games.
Speaker 1: I just feel like those minuscule little details, even when
Speaker 1: you figure them out, you're like, well, that wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1: That wasn't worth it at all. Yeah. Is there a
Speaker 1: specific game other than King's Quest?
Speaker 2: Well, a few things came to mind. All right, let's listen.
Speaker 2: You could indulge me always. How about your bike overheating
Speaker 2: in Excite Bike when you held down the B button
Speaker 2: too long?
Speaker 1: Why give me turbo? If I can't turbo? Come on?
Speaker 1: You ever play the game Burger Time? No? What's Burger Time?
Speaker 2: It's a game where it's sort of like a pac
Speaker 2: Man game where you're running around with the little guy
Speaker 2: with a chef hat and you're trying to make burgers. Okay,
Speaker 2: he had the worst agility in the world. His agility
Speaker 2: makes this list just awful. I would also add the
Speaker 2: entire game of Cubert, which I still don't understand to
Speaker 2: this day, but I had and tried to play and.
Speaker 1: It drove me nuts.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Dan, you'll appreciate this as a Niners fan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how about that one running play in Techmo Super Bowl
Speaker 2: where you couldn't tackle Tom Rathman.
Speaker 1: You know what's what I mean? I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you mean. Yes, there are certain plays that are just
Speaker 1: maddening that there is no solution quickly.
Speaker 2: Anytime I played against the American Dreams in Baseball Stars
Speaker 2: playing NCAA on a computer against my friend Feldman, who
Speaker 2: destroyed me every game with Rishard Casey and Choffee fields
Speaker 2: and it's not as much my childhood. But how about
Speaker 2: that criminal who shoots oil in your face in Mario Kart.
Speaker 1: That thing is the guy on the cloud. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he is. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I hate that guy.
Speaker 2: And then I'd just add anecdotally trying to use the
Speaker 2: power glove, which I don't would probably probably the worst
Speaker 2: invention in the history of the Nintendo era.
Speaker 1: So the thing that was most frustrating to me wasn't
Speaker 1: a specific game. It was the false sense of talent
Speaker 1: I had building up from building up my ability against
Speaker 1: my little brothers and the computer and then playing against
Speaker 1: random friends who either were just flat out better or
Speaker 1: had more time to perfect games. And I just couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that somebody was actually better than me at Techmo
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or NBA Live ninety five or NHL ninety four,
Speaker 1: that they had figured out quirks much more successfully and
Speaker 1: had developed better video game acumen than I. And that
Speaker 1: false sense of talent just drove me insane, just dominating
Speaker 1: at home and then playing on the road and just
Speaker 1: being worked over. I hated that you ever have a
Speaker 1: character be dunked on? Have you ever gotten dunked on
Speaker 1: by Eric Montross over and over again and made to
Speaker 1: feel like a little boy by Eric Montrosse? That's not great? Well,
Speaker 1: your friend Andy says montrocity over and Okay, that's it. Okay,
Speaker 1: got a little intense. Okay. Somebody asked about favorite new recipes,
Speaker 1: favorite dips, food during quarantine food without being able to
Speaker 1: go out and perhaps get every ingredient you want, or
Speaker 1: go to any restaurant you want at any time. I
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Ty.
Speaker 1: I made a corn salad. It's really more like a
Speaker 1: corn salsa, but a corn salad. I charred corn up
Speaker 1: and it's black beans Holapano's or Poblano's, diced up avocado
Speaker 1: lantro and then a honey lime saracha dressing. Tie some
Speaker 1: sea salt, some garlic powder. The recipes from a restaurant
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I'm almost positive I've already talked about this
Speaker 1: called Bee's Cracklin, which burned down. There may be a
Speaker 1: location in a grocery store or something like that, a
Speaker 1: barbecue place, and it is absolutely mandatory for any cookouts
Speaker 1: summer cooking you have coming up these next few months. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, that was great. I got the recipe
Speaker 1: from Bone Appetite anything else from Non Football Quickly the
Speaker 1: Solid Baby's top five favorite foods. There's a veggie burger
Speaker 1: from Trader Joe's that's incredible called he likes meat too,
Speaker 1: but he really likes his veggie burger. It's the Keenwak
Speaker 1: Cowboy Veggie burger quenwa cowboy keenwak cowboy. It's black beans
Speaker 1: and corn and all sorts of a little spice to it, roast,
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes, waffles, a ton of fruit, pineapple, grapes, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. He doesn't know sugar yet, which is great
Speaker 1: because he thinks fruit is just the end all be
Speaker 1: all of deliciousness on earth. So we're holding onto that
Speaker 1: for the time being. So a lot of fruits and
Speaker 1: vegetables and breakfast dough, waffles, bagels.
Speaker 2: Nice pancakes, stuff like that. He also asks what am
Speaker 2: I doing now that I don't have the commute to
Speaker 2: the Oh, that's a great job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your top forty time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my commute was almost exclusively for listening to hits
Speaker 2: one on Serious XM. Yeah, now that's gone out the window.
Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to go back through some of the
Speaker 2: podcasts that have been recommended to me. I listened to,
Speaker 2: by the way, all of Wind of Change, which you recommended.
Speaker 1: Oh I haven't finished yet. Is it great?
Speaker 2: Really good? Nice, really good recommendation out on Spotify. Wind
Speaker 2: to Change would recommend it. So if there are any
Speaker 2: recommendations in the particularly in the nonsports department, the narrative
Speaker 2: Okay Limited series Department, Send him my way, soliverble at
Speaker 2: gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Do you subscribe to any and we are not doing this,
Speaker 1: but do you subscribe to any pay only podcasts? Like
Speaker 1: it's fully behind a paywall? We're not doing that. I
Speaker 1: don't have that, not yet. I'm not opposed to it,
Speaker 1: but no, I just see it happening more and more,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious about it. I'm curious what people think
Speaker 1: if they really like something, because we don't have any
Speaker 1: plans to do it. I can't stress that enough. But
Speaker 1: I just saw what's the guy from Daring Fireball and
Speaker 1: the guy from Stratcori have a podcast that's now fully
Speaker 1: behind a paywall. I pay for goat the Greatest of
Speaker 1: All Talk, Ben Golliver and Andrew Sharp and love it.
Speaker 1: Love that I do. It's like five bucks a month.
Speaker 1: It's nothing, and that's an NBA show and they do
Speaker 1: an amazing job. I'm just curious if people are doing
Speaker 1: that more and more as podcasting becomes bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: What else we got here? Anything else that jumps out
Speaker 2: at you?
Speaker 1: Dan says, You're only as comfortable as your feet. What
Speaker 1: shoes are you running? In I only run when I'm
Speaker 1: pushing the solid toddler in a stroller. But I've got
Speaker 1: some Adidas Ultra Boosts. I'm not a sponsor.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I am. You know how cheap I am.
Speaker 2: If I step on a rock that's too big, I
Speaker 2: can feel it now in the bottom of my foot.
Speaker 1: Final question from I want to go fast, and this
Speaker 1: only applies to you because you're the only one between
Speaker 1: us that has a lawn. What are your lawn care tips,
Speaker 1: tricks and recommendations. Wow?
Speaker 2: Well, first off, I'm no Adam Kramer from a work is,
Speaker 2: but no one is right. We get regular lawn treatments here,
Speaker 2: which I think has helped a lot. I was very
Speaker 2: skeptical at first, but I think it's helped a lot.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? What is a lawn tree?
Speaker 2: They come and they spray it with new tree ins
Speaker 2: instead of're just fertilizing it basically, Okay. I tend to
Speaker 2: cut the grass a little higher so I'm not damaging
Speaker 2: the individual blades of grass.
Speaker 1: I read this.
Speaker 2: Online, by the way, so it has to be true
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't cut your lawn two too low. I
Speaker 2: also try not to cut it in the same direction
Speaker 2: every time because it apparently that can also be harmful
Speaker 2: to the grass. Don't know if that's true either, but
Speaker 2: read that on the internet. I would say my biggest
Speaker 2: weakness as a lawn care professional is probably using the
Speaker 2: weed whacker. I am horrible with this great whacker. No,
Speaker 2: it's it's probably a cheap ole model. I just I
Speaker 2: can't get it right. A lot of spots that are
Speaker 2: just asymmetrical, and that bothers me to no end. You
Speaker 2: know this, right, you know my attention to detail on things.
Speaker 2: It drives me crazy that I'm not better using the
Speaker 2: weed whacker. But I would be open to lawn care
Speaker 2: tips in that regard, like any models or any just any.
Speaker 1: Is this something you want to be good at? Though?
Speaker 2: Is like?
Speaker 1: Are you striving? Do you look at message boards? Because
Speaker 1: the reason our show sounds good is not an accident.
Speaker 1: It's because you've put in you're motivated to make No,
Speaker 1: I'm highly motivated. OK, try and get better at this.
Speaker 1: I'm just horrible at it. I'm not an uncoordinated person,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a thoroughbred athlete, right of course, But
Speaker 1: I just I can't figure out I can't crack the
Speaker 1: code on this.
Speaker 2: How to get better at it. So you would.
Speaker 1: Take recommendations from people. If they had a fertilizer recommendation,
Speaker 1: if they had a schedule, a regimen of some kind
Speaker 1: for lawns, if they had design lawn design tips, I
Speaker 1: would would take those. Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, I already pace want to take care of
Speaker 2: the fertilizing schedule and figure that part out, but I do.
Speaker 1: If somebody recommends something else that's going to be way
Speaker 1: better than what I mean, send it over with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down.
Speaker 2: I'm down to listen. I'm open to any and all
Speaker 2: feedback here. But you want your lawn to look like
Speaker 2: center field at PNC Park.
Speaker 1: I would love it. Maybe I would love it. Let's
Speaker 1: strike some patterns in there. I'm down, let's do it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you have a garden going at all? No garden?
Speaker 1: Does solid wife Kate? No? No garden.
Speaker 2: I think Kate would be open to it. I'm just
Speaker 2: not sure we have the bandwidth to take care of it.
Speaker 2: And that's a problem when it comes to gardening.
Speaker 1: Is there a specific herb or vegetable that you could
Speaker 1: see being worth while to start investing in growing your
Speaker 1: own because you go through it a lot, or because
Speaker 1: you imagine the homemade flavor and quality would be higher
Speaker 1: than what you'd be able to get locally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the the boring and obvious answer is
Speaker 2: probably like spinach or romaine.
Speaker 1: You'd go through a lot of that. I think we
Speaker 1: go through a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't mind growing some globe
Speaker 2: tomatoes and throwing salad and stuff.
Speaker 1: Talk. You're a tomato guy, though, you do like a
Speaker 1: good tomato.
Speaker 2: Throw them, throw them into our Yeah, no, I do
Speaker 2: a homemade marinrad Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, good answer. I want an avocado tree, that's all
Speaker 1: I want, just one. Yeah, I mean I think that
Speaker 1: produces a lot if you can really get it going.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's difficult. Got to be the right weather,
Speaker 1: got to be the right soil. Takes time to grow
Speaker 1: a tree. But if you got those avocados going, tie,
Speaker 1: that's a good life. Well. This has been a fun show, educational.
Speaker 2: We were doing more Q and A shows in the
Speaker 2: very near future, so well, thank you to everyone who
Speaker 2: submitted questions. Maybe we'll use some of those that we
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