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Speaker 2: And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid purple

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Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandon joining me

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Speaker 2: as always still over there in sunny southern California, the

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Speaker 2: one and only Dan Rubens, Sir, hey doing ty If

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Speaker 2: it were up to me, you would even just drop

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Speaker 2: I know, without getting into detail, that's not life isn't

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Speaker 1: Is at it? That is factually correct? Yes, So yes,

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Speaker 1: I am still out in southern California, and I am

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Speaker 1: We haven't done this in far too long, and the wave,

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Speaker 2: but a little tip off here if I could dan

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Speaker 2: that's not quite breaking news. But oh play it ty,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to yell the breaking news thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: an incredibly heartbreaking week here in the United States, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: more important things on your mind. Feel free to tune out.

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Speaker 1: what a treat? Congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail. You've got mail.

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Speaker 1: On the Solid Verbal Dan as often as we can,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll recruit well. I think they'll recruit well.

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Speaker 2: I'm most interested in what he does with John Reese

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Speaker 1: and I got to say our Instagram crowd, and that's

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Speaker 1: by the way, follow solid verbal on Instagram. What are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Pause the show? Follow solidverbal on Instagram. We're

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Speaker 1: posting basically every day. You can see how mediocre my

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Speaker 1: photoshop skills are and how outstanding my video editing skills

436
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Speaker 1: are followed solidverble on Instagram. And I believe this also

437
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Speaker 1: comes to us from Instagram, though maybe it's redit.

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Speaker 2: What does proof of concept for Georgia Tech look like

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Speaker 2: this year? So when I checked out Georgia Tech for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, you might remember they got a new coach

441
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Speaker 2: from Temple a year ago in twenty nineteen, Jeff Collins,

442
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Speaker 2: good guy, good coach. This might be the toughest schedule

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Speaker 2: in the country.

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Speaker 1: It's real bad.

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Speaker 2: The proof of concept here might might be more of

446
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Speaker 2: like moral victories on offense and defense, Like do they

447
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: get better on offense? Do they get better on defense?

448
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Because they've got Clemson, UCF, they're on the road at

449
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: North Carolina and Virginia Tech. They play Notre Dame in Atlanta,

450
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Speaker 2: Miami at home, and they're on the road at Georgia. That,

451
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Speaker 2: my friend, is brutal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Atlanta, but not at Bobby Dodd correct.

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Speaker 2: It was a tough ask a year ago to move

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Speaker 2: move from Paul Johnson to more of a spread. Look,

455
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: the personnel just wasn't there last year. Plus they had

456
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Speaker 2: a ton of injuries on the offensive line this year.

457
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Speaker 2: It just has to improve. It has to get better.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how James Graham looks at quarterback

459
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Speaker 2: after getting a year under his belt. And defensively, they

460
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Speaker 2: got to show more teeth against the run. I think

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Speaker 2: if they do any of those things, it's a step forward.

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Speaker 2: Any of those things would be an effective, a viable

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Speaker 2: proof of concept for moving this thing forward in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things you see when you read

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Speaker 1: or watch Jeff Collins is a repeated desire to get bigger, longer, stronger.

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Speaker 1: It's a different system. This is the I'm sure on

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Speaker 1: every single Georgia Tech board and conversation. It's like transitioning

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Speaker 1: from the flex Moon to what Jeff Collins is trying

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Speaker 1: to do on offense and defense for that matter. So

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Speaker 1: they're trying to recruit, they're trying to develop, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to build bigger athletes whatever to transition. That's difficult right

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Speaker 1: now when you are not on campus and you don't

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Speaker 1: have office and workouts. I think the biggest thing might

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Speaker 1: just be discipline. I know that's a vague term, but

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Speaker 1: do you know who led the nation in turnover margin

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen? You probably don't. I do not off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head. It's arguably the bad team

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Speaker 1: that became the most promising team in terms of results.

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Speaker 1: And this was also a team that I think went

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Speaker 1: nine to three against the spread, which means that they

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Speaker 1: were constantly underestimated and kept things close more often than not.

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Speaker 1: Oregon State. Oregon State led the don't quote me if

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Speaker 1: it's turnover margin might just be they led the nation

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Speaker 1: in fewest turnovers lost. I know turnovers can be random,

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Speaker 1: but also there are no random fumble bounces. If you

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Speaker 1: don't fumble the ball, if the ball doesn't pop out,

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Speaker 1: you can't fumble the ball as far as I can tell.

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Speaker 1: If your quarterback is getting more comfortable in your system,

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Speaker 1: presumably he's going to throw fewer interceptions. And when you

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Speaker 1: give the ball away less and Georgia Tech certainly gave

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Speaker 1: the ball away a ton in twenty nineteen, give yourself

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Speaker 1: a shot. You keep games close. I think proof of

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Speaker 1: concept is going to be what does Georgia Tech's record

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Speaker 1: against the spread look like? And as weird as that

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Speaker 1: is to say, with this actual schedule looking as difficult

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Speaker 1: as it does, if they're staying within a couple touchdowns

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Speaker 1: against Georgia, Notre Dame, and Clemson, if they're competitive with

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Speaker 1: them for a half a quarter and a half, and

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Speaker 1: their players appear to be in the right place, if

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Speaker 1: their linebackers are getting run over instead of juked, instead

502
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Speaker 1: of running the wrong direction, things like that to me

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Speaker 1: are little things. We're just like, Yes, of course, Travis

504
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: etn is impossible to tackle, but at least he was

505
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Speaker 1: in the right lane. At least the run fits were correct.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that, and maybe it takes a rewatch of

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Speaker 1: a game to say, yeah, we just got beat by

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Speaker 1: flat out amazing players. That's improvement. And I think Georgia

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Speaker 1: Tech showed some of that last year. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think they have those dudes yet on either side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. But they're recruiting really well. I think they

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Speaker 1: had a blue chip quarterback from Tallahassee. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Simms. He's going to be a freshman, and the

514
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Speaker 1: early word on him is pretty impressive. So stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: we're just like, Okay, I see what they're going for.

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Speaker 1: If you watch a Georgia Tech game and you're like,

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Speaker 1: they're not there, but I get it, that's a proof

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Speaker 1: of concept. In twenty twenty, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, chances that Penn State wins the Big Ten. This

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Speaker 2: one comes to us from David. Yes, So, David, if

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Speaker 2: you take the Vegas slant on this one, Penn State

522
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Speaker 2: is at six to one to win the Big Ten. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State is negative two forty, which basically means you

524
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Speaker 2: got a bet two hundred and forty dollars to win

525
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Speaker 2: one hundred. They're an overwhelming favorite to win the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: After Penn State, you've got Michigan at thirteen to two,

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Speaker 2: You've got Wisconsin at ten to one, which, honestly, Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: at ten to one seems like pretty good bet just

529
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Speaker 2: to get value. That's not the worst bet in the

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Speaker 2: world for Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to the month of October. They're at Michigan,

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Speaker 2: then they're on buy, then they're home against Iowa and

534
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Speaker 2: Ohio State on back to back weeks. If they can

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Speaker 2: get through that gauntlet in October, that gives them their

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Speaker 2: best shot for doing it. That's what they would need

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Speaker 2: to do. There's some other games later in the year

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Speaker 2: could be tricky. I think on the road at Nebraska

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Speaker 2: and then maybe the next week back home against Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the schedule in front of him, but

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Speaker 2: it's something like that, Yeah, you're one coach of Michigan State. Yeah, yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: I mean there are some tricky spots elsewhere. There's an

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Speaker 2: early game on the road at Lane Stadium against Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Not a conference game, sure, but we'll get a better

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Speaker 2: sense for what Penn State is this should be a

546
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: good team. They're good on defense. I don't expect they're

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Speaker 2: gonna dip it all on defense.

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Speaker 1: Shaka Tony's back, right, Yeah, they.

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Speaker 2: Got a shore up there. They're like passing defense. They

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Speaker 2: got to give up fewer back breaking pass plays. I

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Speaker 2: guess they got to get the offense figured out because

552
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Speaker 2: they've got a new offensive coordinator in Kurt Shiraka. But

553
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot back and so I feel good about

554
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Speaker 2: their chances to be in that conversation, But the month

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Speaker 2: of October looms pretty large here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they couldn't bring Tanner Morgan over to

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Speaker 1: prevent him, and they're not playing Minnesota to prevent Minnesota

558
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Speaker 1: from at least in the first half, rocking that secondary.

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Speaker 1: So they hired Kirk Sharaka, and I just dude, wise,

560
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a healthy amount on both sides. And

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Speaker 1: I like Penn State up front on defense. Although YGM

562
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: is gone, right, he's tol ros Montos He's gone, but

563
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is one of the absolute best defensive players

564
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Speaker 1: in the country. Johan Dotson's probably the go to guy

565
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Speaker 1: on offense with kJ Hamler gone, but Pat Fryermuth is back.

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Speaker 1: I think he's what a sophomore junior this year, I believe.

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Speaker 1: So they've got a couple guys who are interesting. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a back breaking dude on offense? Because I

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Speaker 1: maybe is the best answer I can give right now,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if I fully trust Sean Clifford.

571
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Speaker 1: But I anticipate improvement with Shiraka. But that might also

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Speaker 1: be me just not giving Tanner Morgan enough credit. So

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Speaker 1: I I think I would put Penn State's odds as

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Speaker 1: not great because generally speaking before a season, i'd like

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Speaker 1: an obvious dude to point to they should have a

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Speaker 1: really good backfield. Yeah, I think it's deep and talented.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they'll be fine. In terms

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Speaker 2: of offensive weaponry, I do. I do share your question

579
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Speaker 2: though about particularly the dude out wide like Pat Fryermuth

580
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Speaker 2: gives him a lot in the passing game. You can

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Speaker 2: play him as a wide.

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Speaker 1: Out, but sure big target down the middle.

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Speaker 2: You know, dot, since somebody needs a step up and

584
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Speaker 2: they need to get more of that vertical threat.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Ricky Slade has actually gone anywhere yet.

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Speaker 1: Has he has he announced where he's transferring to?

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Speaker 2: Okay, not that I'm aware of Okay, we'll see, Okay,

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Speaker 2: where you want to go next? Dan, I've been asking

589
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Speaker 2: all the questions.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go a little bit Homer right now?

591
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Speaker 1: Because you have both a Notre Dame and an Oregon question,

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Speaker 1: Let's go out west for an Oregon question, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll go back to you for a Notre Dame question.

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Speaker 1: Mason Vandy wants to know how does Mario Christaball's offensive

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Speaker 1: line look next year after losing four starters at Oregon.

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00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Pretty good? It is pretty good. Last year's was excellent.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback is probably the bigger question to me. They return

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Speaker 1: basically all of their skill guys other than Penn State

599
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: transferred Juwan Johnson and their starting tight end got hurt

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Speaker 1: in the middle of last season. But upfront, Oregon has

601
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Speaker 1: recruited well. They red shirted a talented tackle last year.

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Speaker 1: They had the number one offensive lineman from the junior

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Speaker 1: college ranks red shirt last year as well. They brought

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Speaker 1: in I think a junior college center, so he'll battle

605
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Speaker 1: things out. He might play center, he might play guard.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be nearly as deep as they were.

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Speaker 1: They weren't just talented up front last year. They were

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Speaker 1: deep with talent, so there'll be a lot of youth

609
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Speaker 1: that is relied on as rotation pieces. But I think

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Speaker 1: ultimately what they have in Joe Morehead as an offensive

611
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Speaker 1: coordinator and you know this from following Penn State and

612
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Speaker 1: their own offensive line struggles. His system gets the ball

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Speaker 1: out of the quarterback's hands quickly. It's misleading, there's misdirection,

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Speaker 1: there's that RPO action that the line won't be counted

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Speaker 1: on to be amazing what he got out of the

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Speaker 1: line and what he got out of the running game

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Speaker 1: with Saquon Barkley. And trust me, Orgon does not have

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I think leads me to believe that they

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Speaker 1: should be at worst like a B plus. I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about but you know Joe Morehead, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and you're still a little bit bitter that he went

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Speaker 1: to Oregon and not Notre Dame. I get it a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he what he brings to Oregon.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a very natural fit. And maybe that's

626
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Speaker 2: just because I have the Chip Kelly Oregon era fresh

627
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: on the brain after all of our First Place Loser

628
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Speaker 2: style podcast that we've done, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm our East Coast small school offensive mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what it does with that offense.

631
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Speaker 1: Does Brian Kelly have what it takes to win? I

632
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Speaker 1: assume he means the national championship at Notre Dame because

633
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Speaker 1: he's won plenty, But that seems to be that.

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Speaker 2: Piece, I think so, I've I've felt that way for

635
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Speaker 2: a while. I think since Kelly took over, the overall

636
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: talent on the Notre Dame roster has improved exponentially. They're

637
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Speaker 2: deeper now than they've ever been at any point before.

638
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Speaker 2: The one question, the outstanding question that I have about

639
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Speaker 2: this team is a quarterback position, and can they recruit

640
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Speaker 2: that game changing core or back to come in and

641
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Speaker 2: take Notre Dame to the next level. I feel like

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00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: that's really held them back.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Ian Book is going to be the first three year

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Speaker 2: consecutive starter that Brian Kelly's had in his tenure at

646
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. If Tommy Reese can better tap into what

647
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Ian Book has as a downfield passer, that would put

648
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: the offense in a much better spot. We know that

649
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: they can rely on his legs to some extent, so

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: I think there is certainly reason for optimism there. I

651
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: don't know if that happens this year, but I do

652
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: think just in general, as a coach, yeah, I think

653
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: he has one for sure.

654
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: So yes, obviously he's led a team to a national

655
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: championship game and to the College Football Playoff. They didn't

656
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: fully equit themselves all that well in either one of

657
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: those instances, but that's if a coach is getting you there,

658
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: that means obviously he's capable on some level to take

659
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: another step. What would Notre Dame fans or what do

660
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans in general doubt about. I don't know

661
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: if it's the Brian Kelly era or the recent Brian

662
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Kelly teams. Are they so like this year's team? To me,

663
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: it almost seems like it's a similar question to what

664
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: we had about Penn State, like where are the killers

665
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: on offense? Chase Claypool's gone. I don't know if they

666
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: have a guy at running back it was at Jafar Armstrong.

667
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: It is he the one who's well, I mean he's back.

668
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: It could be Chris Tyree.

669
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: People are excited about Chris Tyree right in the backfield,

670
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: a freshman running back who comes in with much acclaim.

671
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: But who's writing book throwing to that that is going

672
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: to I don't have their schedule in front of me.

673
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: Do they play Clemson? They do play back in the rotation,

674
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: So like, who is scaring a really good secondary out wide?

675
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Because as we saw, you know, as we've seen against

676
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: the best teams that Notre Dame plays generally in January,

677
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they just don't exist on the roster.

678
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's a different question though, if you're talking about

679
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in the twenty twenty season versus Brian Kelly

680
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: as coach. Yeah, Notre Dame twenty is a good team.

681
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: They're not going to contend for the national championship.

682
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: Okay. I think they've done a really good job on defense,

683
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: in building and recruiting, in building up depth and building

684
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: up experience. Your guy, what what's his name, Kyle Hamilton

685
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: at safety? He should be full time this year, me,

686
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. So yeah, they up front, the linebackers were

687
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: really I think they're all new last year. I don't

688
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: rememberize everything, but I think linebackers was a point of

689
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: strength last year for Notre Dame in replacing guys because

690
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: it was what Drew Tranquill the year before, who was

691
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: doing so much for the Irish, And I don't remember

692
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: thinking Notre Dame's linebackers are a liability last year, so

693
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: year over year they seem to do an impressive job

694
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: on defense. It just what does that that threat on

695
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: offense look like, because I don't know if I've seen

696
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: it recently. There's always like a guy, but never like,

697
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: oh man, Notre Dame's got a killer three now on offense.

698
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see. I don't know, and no, it

699
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: could be wrong. I think Brian Kelly as a coach

700
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: has it, but he is in the position that so

701
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: many other coaches around the country are in and you

702
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: just can't hold them to the same standard as like

703
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: a Dabbo Swinge ar a Nick Saban. At this point,

704
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: they've gotten to the point now where they're continuously in

705
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: that conversation and I think that in and of itself

706
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: is a huge victory for Notre Dame.

707
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Has to his impact at Alabama permanently changed what we

708
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: know the Crimson tide to be. So I assume this

709
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: is Duck caught upstream. This is from Reddit. To his

710
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: impact at Alabama is just this all world quarterback. They've

711
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: spread everything out, they go rpo, They've got these amazing

712
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: receivers and this crazy productive quarterback. So is Alabama a

713
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: wide open program? I suppose on offense? Yeah, this is

714
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: the answers.

715
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a weird question because you can't put

716
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: the genie back in the bottle. Like, No, it's not

717
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: just that Alabama has moved on from some of those older,

718
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: more antiquated offenses that they used to run very successfully,

719
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: mind you. Yeah, set, all of college football has moved

720
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: on almost you're also a Greg McElroy apologist. Sure everybody

721
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: knows this, but like, hasn't most of college football moved

722
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: on to some kind of spread system or rpo system,

723
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Like it's some combination of both. Like it. That's just

724
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: kind of the state of playing college football right now.

725
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: And too, I would say most programs have tried. It's okay,

726
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: fair sporgs have tried.

727
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, but that's that's more the thinking in college

728
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: football as it relates to offenses. Now. In twenty twenty,

729
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: Tua ran it with It's a great effect, right and

730
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: pretty good.

731
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I think it meant ran the ball. Yeah, no,

732
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: he ran it and just to an impossible degree.

733
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just I feel like that's where offenses

734
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: are at as a whole.

735
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: With Alabama specifically, the answer is yes. Nick Saban has

736
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: given quotes when they've brought in new offensive coordinators staff

737
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: that have toyed with the idea of changing things or

738
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: in introducing plays of their own system. Nick Saban has

739
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: been vocal about saying, no, no, this is how we

740
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: do things here. You were brought in to do this.

741
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: You were brought in to be the new guy to

742
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: do what we do. We didn't bring you in to

743
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: change the success we've had. So I would say absolutely,

744
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: And especially when you look at the quarterbacks that they've

745
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: brought in this year. They bring in I don't know

746
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: if he was the number one or number two quarterback

747
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: in the country, but Bryce Young from southern California is

748
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: very much in that mold of athletic game changer. Twitchy

749
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: has a great arm. He is very much a signal

750
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: that Alabama is not going to some sort of overhauled

751
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: new offense.

752
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, All right, where are we gonna go next.

753
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Let's go with Alabama's or at least right now opponent

754
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: in Week one A convary. This is very weird to

755
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: get questions from screen names and humans when does USC

756
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: win their next title? And I want to answer this

757
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: question seriously, tie fine, when does USC win their next title?

758
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: So presumably national title, not PAC twelve title, because the

759
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: expectation at USC is national titles. When do they win

760
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: their next title?

761
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: Probably not till they move on from Clay Hilton.

762
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: That's my guess. So it seems that if you're going

763
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: to compete for a national title, if you're going to

764
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: compete to enter the playoff when your conference enter the playoff,

765
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: you're going to need three pretty gangbusters years of recruiting.

766
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: USC is now starting at year one as we speak,

767
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: as they build the twenty twenty one class, which is

768
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: very good. I don't know if you've had an opportunity

769
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: to look at team rankings or specific classes. USC has

770
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: gotten its act together on the recruiting trail. They're getting

771
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: to Oregon levels and that's a great start. Now they

772
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: have I think two blue chip quarterbacks committed to the program.

773
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I imagine as long as this staff is together, they

774
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: will recruit again pretty well. So if you talk about years,

775
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: if Keaton Slovas is very good, once again, it seems

776
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: like he'll be gone after the twenty twenty one season,

777
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: after his junior year. It also seems Graham Harrell will

778
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: probably be gone, and just because he is going to

779
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: be a commodity in the sport or in the NFL wherever.

780
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I imagine it's just not in the cards for a

781
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Clay Helton led Trojan team to get back and win

782
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: a national title. But I imagine that they will start

783
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: putting together and stringing together really talented classes, and I

784
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: would say the absolute earliest is twenty twenty three. I'm

785
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: gonna say year two, year three of the new guys,

786
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: so probably closer to twenty five twenty six. If the

787
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: if Clay Helton's out after a year or two, I.

788
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: Was gonna say twenty twenty five without all the logic

789
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: that you put into it.

790
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just it's smart recruiting with USC too. There

791
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: have been a lot of amazing classes at USC that

792
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: haven't panned out. It's fine the right blue chips, it's

793
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: finding it's putting together really smart classes and finding guys

794
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Colorado, New Jersey, Tennessee, Florida, not just relying

795
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: on southern California. Just finding the best possible fits to

796
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: maximize Trojan results.

797
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: I am very curious to see how much longer Clay

798
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: Hilton continues as coach, because the one thing that always

799
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: comes up whenever we talk about his performance as a coach,

800
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: it's just that he's like, he's like a he's an adult.

801
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: He's an adult. He's a good guy. People like him. Okay, right,

802
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: he carries himself in a very classy way.

803
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, us, he's going to the good guy playoff TI.

804
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: People love Clay Hilton as a human being. How much

805
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: mileage can you get out of that?

806
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Though?

807
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: And every year there's kind of like that one quirk. Right,

808
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: this past year he had the injury at quarterback, Heaton Slovis.

809
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: They brought him in. He showed a lot of promise.

810
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: They were starting over on offense to some degree, like

811
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: he had to be right, like he had that card

812
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: that he could play. And now this year moving forward,

813
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: like the recruiting class last year wasn't great, to be honest,

814
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: but moving forward, like you said, it looks like things

815
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: are turning around. They're going in a good direction. If

816
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: us he goes eight and four again, can he point

817
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: to that and say, look, I Uh, I gotta get

818
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: my guys back in here. I gotta, I gotta continue

819
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: with this recruiting class. Is that enough to keep him around? No?

820
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: If you go eight and four with Keden Slovas this

821
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: year and I don't have usc schedule in front of me, Well,

822
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: when we preview everybody, we're going to go deep, deep

823
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: in depth with every division, every conference, whatever. But at

824
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: a certain point you're going to say, we can't waste

825
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the final year of Keiden Slovas on another PAC twelve

826
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: South runner up type year, and so they're going to

827
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: make a move. He just just barely hung on this

828
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: last time with the new ad giving him another year.

829
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be the new guy. All right?

830
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Where are we gonna go next?

831
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: You love this question. It's from password one, two, three, four,

832
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: which I don't have any answer. No, how he knew. No, Well,

833
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting question to think about, and

834
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: it's a long question, but he wants to know when

835
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: does quarterback and offensive play level out? And he lists

836
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: names like Tim Tebow and Cam Newton and Marcus Mariota

837
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: and Jamis Winston and more recently Joe Burrow to a

838
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson. We've had just record breaking offensive

839
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: performances and quarterback performances this last I don't know, ten

840
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: twelve years. Will defenses catch up, will things level off?

841
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: That we are just in an era of unprecedented success

842
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: that will eventually come to a close. Our defense is

843
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: now too far behind the eight ball. Have rules gone

844
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: too far in the offensive direction in terms of players

845
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: being scared about targeting and roughing the quarterback and things

846
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: like that, that it's given offenses undue advantages. No easy

847
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: answer to this, but I will point out that it's

848
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: a new era in terms of it. It's actually not

849
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: that new anymore, but the last ten twelve years, it's

850
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: an unprecedented level of both focus on the position. And

851
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: you see where these guys have come from, Georgia and Texas,

852
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: and I guess Ohio in the case of Joe Burrow

853
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: not I guess he's from Ohio. But there are certain

854
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: advantages a lot of these guys have, and whether it's

855
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray having athlete fathers

856
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: and they're just genetically so far ahead and have advantages

857
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: of playing football year round in Texas. With that much

858
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: focus or Cam Newton and the physical advantages that he has,

859
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: and he's a unicorn with quarterbacks. I don't see it

860
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: slowing down anytime soon. But the other thing that I

861
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: think is a key contributor to all of this and

862
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's going to be slowing down

863
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Think about how easy it is to hire

864
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: really good coaches. Think about how it is to watch

865
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: film on any school you'd want in the country. Think

866
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: about so, what Mike you're sick is from Shippensburg? Is

867
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: that how you say that it's Shippenberg Shippensburg. Yeah, So

868
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: he goes to Oklahoma State. You have Chip Kelly at

869
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: New Hampshire going to Oregon. You have you know, Gus

870
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: Malson and Chad Morris coming up through the high school ranks.

871
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: It's easier to find out about really smart offensive dudes.

872
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: So it's also easier to find quarterbacks who fit your

873
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: specific kind of system. And so whether it's the Internet,

874
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: whether it's tape, whatever it is, it's just an easier

875
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: time to wreak havoc on offense. Because if we talked

876
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: to Chris Brown all the time from Smart Football, so

877
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: much of this is stealing. It's seeing, you know, a

878
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: team at the Colorado School of Mines run that little

879
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: touch pass and Dana Holgerson hangs seventy on Clemson. It's

880
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: so much easier to just populate your playbook and to

881
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: build a system stealing gets from everywhere and then finding

882
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who best fit your system. Whether it's you know,

883
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence from Georgia going to South

884
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: Carolina and play for Clemson. It's much easier to find

885
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: that guy for you. So just in terms of that

886
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: stew tie, it's easier to find a ghost pepper. It's

887
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: easier to find tie basil. It's easier to find a

888
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: certain kind of beans. It took a turn means in

889
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: your chili. Yeah, it always does with food. But I'm

890
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: just saying recipes are so much easier to come by

891
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: that I don't see it stopping anytime soon unless defenses

892
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: are allowed to do more, which also given safety concerns,

893
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: I also don't see happening. Yeah.

894
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean it's a complicated answer here. I think you've

895
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: always had guys who were.

896
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I just gave it. I just gave a complicated answer.

897
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: You've always had guys who were physically gifted, right, We

898
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: see it all the time in college football. You got

899
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: one guy, you win a national championship if he's good enough. Yeah,

900
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and incoming high school talent definitely farther along now

901
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: than at any point I can ever remember. It's just

902
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: there's more of an infrastructure at a lower level of

903
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: football than at any point I can ever remember. They

904
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: come into college, they're they're much better prepared physically, mentally,

905
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. So that that much is definitely

906
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: a contributing factor. But I think there's a lot of

907
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: supporting evidence that the rules have definitely put offenses at

908
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: an advantage. Just look at the NFL. Look at the NFL.

909
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: They've changed the rule book to some degree, and it's

910
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: now much much more of a passing league than at

911
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: any point before. Also, keep in mind that a lot

912
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: of what you see on Sundays is now openly stolen

913
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: from what you see on Saturdays. The NFL just on

914
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: thost Fridays. Yeah, closely mimicking what they see at the

915
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: college level because they know it works. And so no,

916
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it slows down anytime soon. Also, the

917
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: structure of these college offenses is such that it is

918
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: really trying to put guys in space. The whole thing

919
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: is about space, and that favors teams with great athletes.

920
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: That favors teams that can go out and recruit versatility,

921
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: and it definitely puts smaller schools of a disadvantage when

922
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: they can't get those athletes. I don't think it's going

923
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: to slow on anytime soon. I'm curious to see if

924
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: it does take a rule change or I don't know,

925
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: something else to try and slow this down. But no,

926
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see it slowed.

927
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Down, especially since by and large this is not everybody,

928
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: but a good amount of people prefer watching games with

929
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: amazing quarterbacks and fewer games with amazing inside linebackers. There

930
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: are people who prefer great defensive play to offensive play.

931
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: They're people, too, ty But in terms of the sports watchability,

932
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we could see a rule change with

933
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: RPOs and how many line how many yards pass the

934
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage offensive linemen go with regard to illegal

935
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: player downfield. That kind of thing, I guess could affect

936
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: successes of unpredictable RPOs, stuff like that, But otherwise I

937
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: think the powers that be in college football are pretty

938
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: happy to be living in a renaissance of quarterbacks.

939
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are also living through an extraordinary period of

940
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: college football where you've got like five or six juggernauts

941
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: and they just keep replenishing year after year. Quarterbacks coming

942
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: into these systems like Clemson, if you want to use

943
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: them as an example, Clemson was already pulling down five

944
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: stars before Trevor Lawrence showed up and other five stars

945
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: had to leave. That's the caliber of player they're getting.

946
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 2: After Trevor Lawrence leaves, presumably after this year for the draft,

947
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: they've got another five star waiting in the wings that's

948
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: going to perform at just as high level, if not better.

949
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: So we are living through this era of incredible offensive

950
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: advantage and quarterbacks going to these schools that are already

951
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: loaded to the teeth.

952
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're sick of Clemson, Alabama,

953
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, whatever, the only thing that will

954
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: beat those The only thing that a smaller school can

955
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: do to beat a school like any of those schools

956
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: consistently with the amount of talent each of those places have,

957
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: is to stumble upon a transcendent quarterback. I guess Texas

958
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: A and M did in Johnny Manziel in twenty eleven,

959
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: I believe, is the year that they recruited him. He

960
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: was a freshman, the year he red shirted. That's the

961
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: only way that somebody can will their team that has

962
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: a distinct talent advantage or a distinct scheme advantage. We

963
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: saw it with Ole miss and what they're able to

964
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: do with their offense circa what with Doctor Bow and

965
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen. There the offense is the only

966
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: thing really to me, and they had great defenses at

967
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: that time too, but it was the offense that was succeeding.

968
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: With Evan Ingram and Chad Kelly, skis like that that

969
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: can really open up the sport and make it as

970
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: unpredictable as people want. Otherwise, if we're just talking about

971
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: defensive talent, where you're gonna see a lot more of

972
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: Alabama and Clemson and Georgia and Ohio State, which I

973
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: don't think anybody really really wants if you're not fans

974
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: of those teams.

975
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: All right, last football question, then there are at least

976
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: two quick non college football ones that I just need

977
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: to talk about.

978
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, do you want to do the wand question?

979
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: The wand question?

980
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna ask about Kyler Murray versus Lamar Jackson.

981
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm taking Lamar, but continue.

982
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson. This one comes to us from Zach.

983
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: You got to pick one to win you a big game.

984
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: Who you got? Uh? The one who has won the

985
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: MVP of the National That's the one I know, I think.

986
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, are we talking about today, Lamar Jackson, Louisville

987
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: Lamar versus Oklahoma Kyler? How are you interpreting this? I

988
00:52:59,480 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: don't know.

989
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm interpreting it college version version, both of who they

990
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: were in college, both won the Heisman. I'm partial to

991
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: Lamar here because he's so gifted as a runner, and

992
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: he more than makes up for his sometimes lack of

993
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: passing accuracy.

994
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: He was raw in college at times.

995
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: He's still raw to some degree, but he's just so

996
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: gifted as a runner. You would legit have a chance

997
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: against any team. You could just put him back there

998
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: in a shotgun and let him run fifty times. He's

999
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: that good as a runner. The key thing for me

1000
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: and the reason I think I go Lamar is we've

1001
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: seen him put a team on his back without much

1002
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: of a supporting cast, and we've seen the results there.

1003
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: That's the distinction.

1004
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Louisville.

1005
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: You might remember they were up late against a national

1006
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: championship Clempson team. We talked about them a few episodes ago,

1007
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: like Louisville's not coming back in that game and taking

1008
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: a lead against Clemson. If Kyle Bollen is your quarterback,

1009
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: like he was just such a transcendent player at the

1010
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: college level that I can't look past it.

1011
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. They're the only difference. We're splitting hairs

1012
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: here because Kyler Murray was an incredible, incredible college player.

1013
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: The big difference to me is you watch Lamar Jackson

1014
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: and I'll say I watch Lamar Jackson and I immediately

1015
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: say I would do anything to wear the same uniform

1016
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: as him. What it must be like to be on

1017
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: his team must be so great. I would do anything

1018
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: for him to be my quarterback. And I don't quite

1019
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: feel that with Kyler Murray. That's the only difference. What

1020
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: was the wand question? Oh, somebody asked if we could

1021
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: wave a magic wand and give any program Alabama levels

1022
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: of success, which program would it be? The Lafayette fighting Leopards.

1023
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: I didn't see answer. Yeah, Trey asked that question. So

1024
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: if you're talking about which fan base seems deserving or

1025
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: that we can't give out a fan base without a

1026
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: rival fan base saying like, actually they're the worst. Actually

1027
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: that is the worst. So I don't know if there's

1028
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: a long suffering fan base that you would feel particularly

1029
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about giving unprecedented levels of success.

1030
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 2: Who are the Cubs of college football.

1031
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: That haven't won in forever? And yeah, yeah, I mean

1032
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people would argue Cubs fans are obnoxious.

1033
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm married into a Cubs family, so I think they're

1034
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: charming and wonderful. Sure, long suffering. I don't think there's

1035
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: one of the major schools in Florida. I don't think.

1036
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a team in the SEC.

1037
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: I think it would get real rough if Tennessee all

1038
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden started winning again. But I kind of

1039
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: want to see it from an entertainment standpoint, what the

1040
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: college football universe looks like if Tennessee and everything that

1041
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: comes along with just crazy amounts of success, national championship

1042
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: levels of success, What happens, what level of flip turned

1043
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: up side down universe happens if Tennessee.

1044
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to

1045
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: give it to an SEC school though. That's the thing, Okay,

1046
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: Like I kind of feel like we need a school

1047
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: like that out in the Pac twelve.

1048
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: It would be great for Colorado to come back, but

1049
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't just I don't feel like there's a fervor

1050
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: for it that would I don't think it would be

1051
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: as appreciated as some other programs, but it'd be great

1052
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: Colorado did it.

1053
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: There is such an impulse here to just pick a

1054
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: program that's down and out or a really small school program,

1055
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: like let's pick Boise State and give it to that.

1056
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Like there really is that inclination to do it. But

1057
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. I need That's a great question.

1058
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: Trey asked it. Trey asked it right.

1059
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: Got to think more about that. Rutgers is there for it.

1060
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: There's no fervor. There is just no Rutgers football ferv

1061
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's pockets, but generally speaking, there's no fervor.

1062
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: I need to think more about this. Good question, very

1063
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: good question.

1064
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: What about a re emergence to the forefront of Mac

1065
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Brown and the Tar Hills. But is there a fur

1066
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: no fervor. But I mean that's still a pretty big

1067
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: sports school.

1068
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: It is u NC. I got to think more about

1069
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: this one.

1070
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: Oh Man, I would what if the tables were flipped.

1071
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: I know you said you weren't thinking SEC, but what

1072
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, South Carolina just reversed everything

1073
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Speaker 1: in that state and became a power?

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Speaker 2: Be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a school that's been dominated by a

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Speaker 1: rival and doesn't just flip it on the rival, but

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Speaker 1: flips it on all of college football. So Washington Michigan,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely fervors with both of those fan bases. Michigan

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Speaker 1: fully flips the script on Ryan Day and Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is science fiction, obviously, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think a school like that that has been so down

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Speaker 1: and out in Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State would be interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. Not the most likable program, but for a

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Speaker 1: fan base that is passionate about the Pokes. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then to turn the tide on on Boomer Sooner. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that kind of school that else can't get

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Speaker 1: over on their rival not only gets over on their rival,

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Speaker 1: but becomes a national power. That's great.

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Speaker 2: How much time do we got for non college football questions?

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Speaker 1: Kit a few minutes? Okay, if you're tuned in to

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Speaker 1: listen to college football, you don't want to listen to

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Speaker 1: non college football. Now would be the time to exit

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Speaker 1: stage left. Thank you for downloading, thank you for listening,

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00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: and thank you for telling your friends to subscribe to

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the show. It's very important that you do that because

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: we're putting in not just a lot of time now,

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00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: but we're about to put in a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: So if you have friends in your life who you

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: think might enjoy a college football podcast, throw them our away,

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Speaker 1: send them our way, whatever you got to do.

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Speaker 2: We got this question from Adam. Yeah, I've been thinking

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Speaker 2: about this all day, all day.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: He says he recently hooked up his old Sega and

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: he's remembering how infuriating Sonic the Hedgehog was, especially the

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: level with the water. All these years later, I still

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Speaker 2: haven't cleared it. What video game from your childhood do

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: you recall giving you absolute fits? I suspect you and

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: I could do a full podcast on this particular question.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the patience for a lot of RPGs.

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't tie. I don't know if you were

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00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: big on Final Fantasy and all the no the Zelda

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: games and all of that stuff. I just I didn't

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00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: have it in me I had. I think those gave

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Speaker 1: me the patience element, gave me fits.

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Speaker 2: I had a long dark period of my early childhood

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: life trying to figure out that in King's Quest you

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Speaker 2: had to throw the iceberg lettuce into the boiling spring

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Speaker 2: in order to get through it.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like it's such. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: it's a waste of time because I love video games.

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like those minuscule little details, even when

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Speaker 1: you figure them out, you're like, well, that wasn't worth it.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't worth it at all. Yeah. Is there a

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Speaker 1: specific game other than King's Quest?

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Speaker 2: Well, a few things came to mind. All right, let's listen.

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Speaker 2: You could indulge me always. How about your bike overheating

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Speaker 2: in Excite Bike when you held down the B button

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Speaker 2: too long?

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Speaker 1: Why give me turbo? If I can't turbo? Come on?

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Speaker 1: You ever play the game Burger Time? No? What's Burger Time?

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Speaker 2: It's a game where it's sort of like a pac

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Speaker 2: Man game where you're running around with the little guy

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Speaker 2: with a chef hat and you're trying to make burgers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he had the worst agility in the world. His agility

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Speaker 2: makes this list just awful. I would also add the

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Speaker 2: entire game of Cubert, which I still don't understand to

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Speaker 2: this day, but I had and tried to play and.

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Speaker 1: It drove me nuts.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Dan, you'll appreciate this as a Niners fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how about that one running play in Techmo Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: where you couldn't tackle Tom Rathman.

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Speaker 1: You know what's what I mean? I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: you mean. Yes, there are certain plays that are just

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01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: maddening that there is no solution quickly.

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Speaker 2: Anytime I played against the American Dreams in Baseball Stars

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Speaker 2: playing NCAA on a computer against my friend Feldman, who

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Speaker 2: destroyed me every game with Rishard Casey and Choffee fields

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Speaker 2: and it's not as much my childhood. But how about

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: that criminal who shoots oil in your face in Mario Kart.

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Speaker 1: That thing is the guy on the cloud. I don't

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01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: know what he is. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I hate that guy.

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Speaker 2: And then I'd just add anecdotally trying to use the

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Speaker 2: power glove, which I don't would probably probably the worst

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Speaker 2: invention in the history of the Nintendo era.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that was most frustrating to me wasn't

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Speaker 1: a specific game. It was the false sense of talent

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Speaker 1: I had building up from building up my ability against

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Speaker 1: my little brothers and the computer and then playing against

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Speaker 1: random friends who either were just flat out better or

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Speaker 1: had more time to perfect games. And I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe that somebody was actually better than me at Techmo

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or NBA Live ninety five or NHL ninety four,

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Speaker 1: that they had figured out quirks much more successfully and

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01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: had developed better video game acumen than I. And that

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Speaker 1: false sense of talent just drove me insane, just dominating

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Speaker 1: at home and then playing on the road and just

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Speaker 1: being worked over. I hated that you ever have a

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Speaker 1: character be dunked on? Have you ever gotten dunked on

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Speaker 1: by Eric Montross over and over again and made to

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Speaker 1: feel like a little boy by Eric Montrosse? That's not great? Well,

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Speaker 1: your friend Andy says montrocity over and Okay, that's it. Okay,

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: got a little intense. Okay. Somebody asked about favorite new recipes,

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: favorite dips, food during quarantine food without being able to

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Speaker 1: go out and perhaps get every ingredient you want, or

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Speaker 1: go to any restaurant you want at any time. I

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Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Ty.

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Speaker 1: I made a corn salad. It's really more like a

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Speaker 1: corn salsa, but a corn salad. I charred corn up

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Speaker 1: and it's black beans Holapano's or Poblano's, diced up avocado

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: lantro and then a honey lime saracha dressing. Tie some

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: sea salt, some garlic powder. The recipes from a restaurant

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I'm almost positive I've already talked about this

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Speaker 1: called Bee's Cracklin, which burned down. There may be a

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Speaker 1: location in a grocery store or something like that, a

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: barbecue place, and it is absolutely mandatory for any cookouts

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Speaker 1: summer cooking you have coming up these next few months. Wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, that was great. I got the recipe

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Speaker 1: from Bone Appetite anything else from Non Football Quickly the

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Speaker 1: Solid Baby's top five favorite foods. There's a veggie burger

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Speaker 1: from Trader Joe's that's incredible called he likes meat too,

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Speaker 1: but he really likes his veggie burger. It's the Keenwak

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Speaker 1: Cowboy Veggie burger quenwa cowboy keenwak cowboy. It's black beans

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Speaker 1: and corn and all sorts of a little spice to it, roast,

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Speaker 1: sweet potatoes, waffles, a ton of fruit, pineapple, grapes, stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. He doesn't know sugar yet, which is great

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Speaker 1: because he thinks fruit is just the end all be

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Speaker 1: all of deliciousness on earth. So we're holding onto that

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: for the time being. So a lot of fruits and

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01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: vegetables and breakfast dough, waffles, bagels.

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Speaker 2: Nice pancakes, stuff like that. He also asks what am

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: I doing now that I don't have the commute to

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Speaker 2: the Oh, that's a great job.

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, your top forty time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my commute was almost exclusively for listening to hits

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: one on Serious XM. Yeah, now that's gone out the window.

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01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to go back through some of the

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Speaker 2: podcasts that have been recommended to me. I listened to,

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Speaker 2: by the way, all of Wind of Change, which you recommended.

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Speaker 1: Oh I haven't finished yet. Is it great?

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Speaker 2: Really good? Nice, really good recommendation out on Spotify. Wind

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Speaker 2: to Change would recommend it. So if there are any

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Speaker 2: recommendations in the particularly in the nonsports department, the narrative

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Speaker 2: Okay Limited series Department, Send him my way, soliverble at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Do you subscribe to any and we are not doing this,

1219
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: but do you subscribe to any pay only podcasts? Like

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: it's fully behind a paywall? We're not doing that. I

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: don't have that, not yet. I'm not opposed to it,

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: but no, I just see it happening more and more,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious about it. I'm curious what people think

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Speaker 1: if they really like something, because we don't have any

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: plans to do it. I can't stress that enough. But

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Speaker 1: I just saw what's the guy from Daring Fireball and

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Speaker 1: the guy from Stratcori have a podcast that's now fully

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Speaker 1: behind a paywall. I pay for goat the Greatest of

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Speaker 1: All Talk, Ben Golliver and Andrew Sharp and love it.

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Speaker 1: Love that I do. It's like five bucks a month.

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01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: It's nothing, and that's an NBA show and they do

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Speaker 1: an amazing job. I'm just curious if people are doing

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Speaker 1: that more and more as podcasting becomes bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 2: What else we got here? Anything else that jumps out

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Speaker 2: at you?

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: Dan says, You're only as comfortable as your feet. What

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Speaker 1: shoes are you running? In I only run when I'm

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: pushing the solid toddler in a stroller. But I've got

1239
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: some Adidas Ultra Boosts. I'm not a sponsor.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I am. You know how cheap I am.

1241
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: If I step on a rock that's too big, I

1242
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: can feel it now in the bottom of my foot.

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: Final question from I want to go fast, and this

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Speaker 1: only applies to you because you're the only one between

1245
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Speaker 1: us that has a lawn. What are your lawn care tips,

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: tricks and recommendations. Wow?

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, I'm no Adam Kramer from a work is,

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Speaker 2: but no one is right. We get regular lawn treatments here,

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: which I think has helped a lot. I was very

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01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: skeptical at first, but I think it's helped a lot.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? What is a lawn tree?

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: They come and they spray it with new tree ins

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: instead of're just fertilizing it basically, Okay. I tend to

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01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: cut the grass a little higher so I'm not damaging

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Speaker 2: the individual blades of grass.

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Speaker 1: I read this.

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Speaker 2: Online, by the way, so it has to be true

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Speaker 2: that you shouldn't cut your lawn two too low. I

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Speaker 2: also try not to cut it in the same direction

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Speaker 2: every time because it apparently that can also be harmful

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Speaker 2: to the grass. Don't know if that's true either, but

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Speaker 2: read that on the internet. I would say my biggest

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Speaker 2: weakness as a lawn care professional is probably using the

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Speaker 2: weed whacker. I am horrible with this great whacker. No,

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Speaker 2: it's it's probably a cheap ole model. I just I

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Speaker 2: can't get it right. A lot of spots that are

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Speaker 2: just asymmetrical, and that bothers me to no end. You

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: know this, right, you know my attention to detail on things.

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Speaker 2: It drives me crazy that I'm not better using the

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Speaker 2: weed whacker. But I would be open to lawn care

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Speaker 2: tips in that regard, like any models or any just any.

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Speaker 1: Is this something you want to be good at? Though?

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Speaker 2: Is like?

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 1: Are you striving? Do you look at message boards? Because

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Speaker 1: the reason our show sounds good is not an accident.

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: It's because you've put in you're motivated to make No,

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Speaker 1: I'm highly motivated. OK, try and get better at this.

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Speaker 1: I'm just horrible at it. I'm not an uncoordinated person,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a thoroughbred athlete, right of course, But

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Speaker 1: I just I can't figure out I can't crack the

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01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: code on this.

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Speaker 2: How to get better at it. So you would.

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Speaker 1: Take recommendations from people. If they had a fertilizer recommendation,

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Speaker 1: if they had a schedule, a regimen of some kind

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Speaker 1: for lawns, if they had design lawn design tips, I

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Speaker 1: would would take those. Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I already pace want to take care of

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Speaker 2: the fertilizing schedule and figure that part out, but I do.

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Speaker 1: If somebody recommends something else that's going to be way

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Speaker 1: better than what I mean, send it over with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm down.

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Speaker 2: I'm down to listen. I'm open to any and all

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Speaker 2: feedback here. But you want your lawn to look like

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Speaker 2: center field at PNC Park.

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Speaker 1: I would love it. Maybe I would love it. Let's

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Speaker 1: strike some patterns in there. I'm down, let's do it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a garden going at all? No garden?

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Speaker 1: Does solid wife Kate? No? No garden.

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Speaker 2: I think Kate would be open to it. I'm just

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Speaker 2: not sure we have the bandwidth to take care of it.

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Speaker 2: And that's a problem when it comes to gardening.

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Speaker 1: Is there a specific herb or vegetable that you could

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Speaker 1: see being worth while to start investing in growing your

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Speaker 1: own because you go through it a lot, or because

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Speaker 1: you imagine the homemade flavor and quality would be higher

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Speaker 1: than what you'd be able to get locally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the the boring and obvious answer is

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Speaker 2: probably like spinach or romaine.

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Speaker 1: You'd go through a lot of that. I think we

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Speaker 1: go through a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't mind growing some globe

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Speaker 2: tomatoes and throwing salad and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Talk. You're a tomato guy, though, you do like a

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Speaker 1: good tomato.

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Speaker 2: Throw them, throw them into our Yeah, no, I do

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Speaker 2: a homemade marinrad Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good answer. I want an avocado tree, that's all

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Speaker 1: I want, just one. Yeah, I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: produces a lot if you can really get it going.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's difficult. Got to be the right weather,

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Speaker 1: got to be the right soil. Takes time to grow

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Speaker 1: a tree. But if you got those avocados going, tie,

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Speaker 1: that's a good life. Well. This has been a fun show, educational.

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Speaker 2: We were doing more Q and A shows in the

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Speaker 2: very near future, so well, thank you to everyone who

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Speaker 2: submitted questions. Maybe we'll use some of those that we

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Speaker 2: left off next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget.

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Speaker 2: sending something out I think in the next couple of days

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Speaker 1: But yeah, guys, Tie has been doing so many crunches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's ready. Okay, Sorry, I didn't want to steal any

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Speaker 1: thunder there.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hilda Brand over here on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the country, Stay safe, stay healthy out there.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in a few days. In the meantime,

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