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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to coast, georgianry with you.

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Speaker 1: Anxiety depression? What causes it? Faust. Rogero's professional career spans

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Speaker 1: almost forty years and is diversified in compelling as it

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Speaker 1: has consistently established new and exciting, cutting edge counseling programs

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Speaker 1: in his pursuit of professional excellence and personal enhancement. He's

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Speaker 1: a published research author, clinical trainer, therapist who has worked

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Speaker 1: in settings that have included clinics for deaf children, prisons,

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Speaker 1: nursing homes, substance abuse centers, impatient facilities, major corporations both

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Speaker 1: national and international, as the president of the Community Psychological

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Speaker 1: Center in Pennsylvania as well. In that capacity, he developed

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Speaker 1: a process way of learning counseling program has developed it

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Speaker 1: into a formal text presented and to Fix Yourself handbook. Faust,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program and thank you for everything you've

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Speaker 1: been doing in your career. Thank you, Georgia. It's one

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Speaker 1: am here on the East Coast. Oh, it's right pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be spending time with you tonight. Do you normally

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Speaker 1: stay up that late just for you, George, all right,

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Speaker 1: my friend, and next hour we'll take calls. You'll enjoy

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Speaker 1: it with our audience. You've divorced in time? What is

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Speaker 1: to you faust? What is depression and anxiety? Is it chemical?

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Speaker 1: Is it physical? What is it? You know? Where where?

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Speaker 1: There's so much research going on with that, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the old design talked about chemical imbalances, and the problem is,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you deal with chemicals, what are you saying,

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Speaker 1: You're you're really you know, lending yourself to the medical model,

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Speaker 1: and the medical medical model is always going to come

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Speaker 1: down to medicine. The problem with medicine, just like anything

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Speaker 1: any other drugs, we're treating a symptom. We're not treating

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Speaker 1: the cause. So you're gonna the person's going to take

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Speaker 1: the medicine. If they're fortunate and it's you know, and

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Speaker 1: it works for them, they'll feel some relief, But that

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Speaker 1: doesn't change what's causing the problem. Could Could it be

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Speaker 1: a chemical imbalance for some people? Possibly, But really what

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with is, uh, Genetically we may be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more fragile, you know, in terms of being

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Speaker 1: more nervous people, more anxious people, But then it's not

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Speaker 1: knowing how to do it, how to deal with it,

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Speaker 1: and we feed into it. Then we do things that

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Speaker 1: aren't healthy and it exacerbates the situation, and then we

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Speaker 1: seek our quick fixes. Docs are real good to provide

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Speaker 1: those for us. You know, I see some of these

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Speaker 1: disclaimers of medicine on television commercials fast, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: they scare the living daylights out of you. The medicine

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Speaker 1: for depression, and they you know, say they could cause

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Speaker 1: suicidal tendencies, and you see that. Oh my gosh. You know,

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Speaker 1: I looked at those at those commercials, and in the

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Speaker 1: last decade or so, they've been all over the place.

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Speaker 1: If you turn if you turn on televisions for you know,

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Speaker 1: a night at three hour night, you're probably going to

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Speaker 1: see a dozen of these things. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: first thing across my mind was, Okay, these are prescriptions.

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Speaker 1: You can't go out and just buy them. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they're adverage tising something and go to the store

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Speaker 1: and you can get it. You have to go to

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Speaker 1: your doctor for it. So obviously, to me, that begs

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Speaker 1: the question what exactly the drug company is doing. They're

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Speaker 1: really not selling a drug in those commercials. They're selling

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Speaker 1: a drug culture. They have us believing that you need

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Speaker 1: these medications. You know, forty years ago, I had maybe

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Speaker 1: five percent of my people that would come into the office,

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Speaker 1: I think about that, that's just ludicrous. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: coming in and sometimes it's three or four or five medications.

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Speaker 1: These people are taking all the deal with mental health,

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Speaker 1: you know. So we now believe that if we have something,

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Speaker 1: instead of taking the time to research it and maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, the drug companies are very nice to the docs,

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Speaker 1: so they prescribe, and they he prescribed being in. Before

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Speaker 1: get out of. That's true. Fast. I had a friend

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Speaker 1: What causes something like that that just hits you where

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Speaker 1: when it's a development of long term anxiety. Very few

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Speaker 1: It's anxiety that's been let go, or for a lot

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Speaker 1: sometimes they'll come up in those situations, but probably eight

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Speaker 1: the world lives these days, I mean, it's fast paced,

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Speaker 1: What's happened now is that becomes addictive because that that

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Speaker 1: that accelerated lifestyle produces more adrenaline things like that. The

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Speaker 1: So now we have we have the culture going very fast.

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Speaker 1: We're getting up in the morning and saying, well, there's

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Speaker 1: And that cycle just kept repeats. And you want to

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Speaker 1: a prescription for anxiety. Absolutely fus. What is internal balance?

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Speaker 1: What does that concept? That's something that you know I

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Speaker 1: talk about that balance. That's really what they're talking about,

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Speaker 1: internal balance. And when you get there, it gets you

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Speaker 1: So I've trying to work people into that. But it's

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Speaker 1: Get people to be to be efficient livers. The media

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Speaker 1: And it's all texting back and forth. We're not facing

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