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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for

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Speaker 1: insider news and craft analysis from deep within the confines

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Brian brought us Jeff Cavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans,

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Speaker 1: and David Hellman, And just like that we are back. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for everyone at this table,

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Speaker 1: but if ever there was a year I thought the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show might start later than usual, I thought it

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Speaker 1: might be this one. But it is not the case.

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Speaker 1: There are two seasons. There's football season and there's Draft season,

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Speaker 1: and half season is underway. Welcome everyone to the Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: presented by Miller Lite, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Guys,

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Speaker 1: good to see you. It seems that one thing that

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Speaker 1: we're really good at is this drafting thing. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the consistent here. We know that part now

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Speaker 1: we got Maybe maybe that other side needs to work

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Speaker 1: on their game a little bit more. So I'm excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I'm rude. I just if you listen to the Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: I just I think of you as like a long

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Speaker 1: time friend. I assume you know all of these voices.

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Speaker 1: Just in case you're new here. I'm David Hellman. I

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Speaker 1: will be quarterbacking this thing in twenty twenty two. That

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Speaker 1: was Brian brought us a long time NFL personnel guys,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl winning scout. You know, back in the day,

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Speaker 1: Thank God for Kyler Murrah. Thank God changed the game.

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Speaker 1: That is. Kyle Yeoman's coming on for your third, third year,

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Speaker 1: third trip through the draft process. And he's quiet right now.

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Speaker 1: But Jeffrey Cavanaugh's with us as well, long time radio

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Speaker 1: draft all around fun guy. What's up, Jeffrey? Just pondering,

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Speaker 1: just thinking about who we're picking, just trying to figure

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Speaker 1: just all right, you're just cut to the chase right now.

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Speaker 1: I've adopted a new stance for broadcast. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: they tell I learned it from Michael Irvin and Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: They tell you as much of the table as you can.

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Speaker 1: You gotta like domineering, like Eisen sitting there just doing this.

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Speaker 1: have a presence. There's a bit of tongue in cheek

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Speaker 1: But there are other guys that will do the big

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Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere, Jury, Madeline, I'm right now. I am Jordan Davis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am taking up as much space as possible. Like

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Speaker 1: you're looking hard to block right now. You are looking

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Speaker 1: hard to block. Get big? Well you get Do you

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Speaker 1: have a name? You got a name? Just don't even

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Speaker 1: think about it? What do you mean? Just have a

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Speaker 1: if you're new to this, you know you're you're gonna

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Speaker 1: narrow it down. You're we're gonna get a much better

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Speaker 1: idea of what we're all thinking about. But Tyler Linderbaum

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Speaker 1: Oddly enough, it was Neville Gallimore was like one of

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Speaker 1: how that evolves. But I like where your heads at

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Speaker 1: how about this just jumping right in. Yeah, we're already

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Speaker 1: off the track of what I wanted. Derek Stingley first segment.

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Speaker 1: I like, what you like. We can't take Derek Stingley.

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Speaker 1: He's barely even played college football. Nobody could pick him

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Speaker 1: with the top twenty three people. Just let him fall

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Speaker 1: to twenty four. I support what Jeff's doing right now

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Speaker 1: because he's trying to talk this into existence. Lindar bombs small,

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Speaker 1: we should just get this is good, by the way,

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Speaker 1: good player. But I'll say this though about like I say,

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Speaker 1: investigate and educate, So that the first word is investigate.

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Speaker 1: If you have the opportunity, however, you can to look

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Speaker 1: at these players, go back, go back. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons has overachieved the twelfth pick. He's overperformed, outperformed

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Speaker 1: some scary times there, and it's it's just it's gonna

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Speaker 1: this Twitter on the twenty. I don't beam. I don't

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Speaker 1: like Jeff's better, honestly. And they've tried to cut you

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Speaker 1: guys out of the show. We just I fought for

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Speaker 1: you guys. Dave was like, you know what, maybe let's

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Speaker 1: not take questions from pets. I said, let's keep them.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. This is always Could you do that on

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Speaker 1: your YouTube channel? Right? Yeah? My YouTube channel is take

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Speaker 1: all these questions yea and very fan friendly. I am

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Speaker 1: thank you as the host this year. I am determined

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Speaker 1: that we are actually going to answer more than one

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Speaker 1: that at me? Who talks about I'm directing it at

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Speaker 1: all of us? No, all right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of these. I hope this

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Speaker 1: one's from Tendall Curtis. He points out, Michael Gallup Cedric

491
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Speaker 1: Wilson are both free agents. On top of that, Malik

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Speaker 1: Turner and Noah Round as well, wide receiver in the

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Speaker 1: first round. You wanna can you buckle your Can you

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Speaker 1: buckle yourself to that wagon again in twenty twenty two?

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Speaker 1: All day, every day. Wide receivers are fun. I love

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Yeah, I can take one all day every day.

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Speaker 1: Next we can go back to team forty Burger. Already,

498
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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, you want some speed on this team, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily forty Burgers this year. I can hear

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Speaker 1: people rolling their eyes. What what do you go? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely I'm okay with that. This game has turned

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Speaker 1: into that. These guys working with these guys over that

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Speaker 1: radio station, they've they've told me that running the football

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Speaker 1: is important, but also throwing the ball is important as well.

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Speaker 1: Having these receivers they make a huge difference. And yet

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Speaker 1: and and there's several them. You mentioned Williams. The Burkes

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Speaker 1: kid at Arkansas is a really good player if you

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Speaker 1: want a Deebo Samuel kind of a guy. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. If people are using people are

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Speaker 1: using wide receivers as weapons and using the only in

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Speaker 1: the passing game. But if you put him in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: there's studies about these guys and the way they run

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Speaker 1: the football. It's almost like it's a shock to the

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Speaker 1: defense to see him back there and before they know what,

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Speaker 1: the ball's seven yards up the field. So, right off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head, if if this is something

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Speaker 1: that interests you, Jamison Williams at Alabama, Garrett Wilson at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Traylan Burke's at Arkansas. Yeah, I like in London,

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Speaker 1: from US and then there's dots and from Penn State

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Speaker 1: are the ones I've seen so far, And to me,

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Speaker 1: I think those are those are like the those are

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Speaker 1: the guys that we're expecting to be the first round guys.

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Speaker 1: I will be interested to see what happens with the

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Speaker 1: medical on Williams. I think that's something that maybe that

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Speaker 1: puts him back a little bit to where he falls

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Speaker 1: to you like you're talking about, but he's a hell

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Speaker 1: of a football player. Yeah, you better take him because

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Speaker 1: if you don't, he's gonna be a chief and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna let me get the Kansas City or something. It's me,

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Speaker 1: Tyree Hill and Jamison Williams. Do you have something real quick? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say this year. I've always been on

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver bandwagon, even back to the Cede Lamb.

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Speaker 1: I ran a stupid half marathon for the dude. So

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Speaker 1: I'm out this year in the first round wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I'm not as impressed

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Speaker 1: with this draft class as the draft class is the

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Speaker 1: last three or four seasons in terms of that wide

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Speaker 1: receiver position group. And I think that plays into the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys hands in the later rounds rounds two through seven.

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Speaker 1: Sign me up, let's go get some wide receivers. But

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Speaker 1: I think this actually plays out well the way that

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Speaker 1: this thing is kind of turning out, because there's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be those four or five guys going in the

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Speaker 1: top fifteen. Like we've seen the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of those guys go from

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Speaker 1: fifteen to thirty two, and then there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: run in that second round. Do you think that's fair?

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I mean, the ones I've seen

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Speaker 1: so far. He's absolutely right, because again, Christal Lobby to

550
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Speaker 1: me is at Ohio State is a hell of a

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Speaker 1: football player. Here's a guy talk about attention to detail.

552
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Speaker 1: When he catches the ball, it's not get one foot down,

553
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Speaker 1: let's get two. He knows he's about to play on Sundays,

554
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Speaker 1: so that's the kind of player he is. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that that. I don't think that we're going

556
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Speaker 1: to see the receivers go with that top up in

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, so you're going to get

558
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to pick the best one. I think. Russ notes,

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Speaker 1: and this appears to be a first round that is

560
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Speaker 1: stacked with offensive tackles. At twenty four, he wants to know,

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Speaker 1: have you seen any that you think have guard flexibility?

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Speaker 1: And I know we're early, so if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that much tape, that's fine. I'm just curious. I think

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Speaker 1: I know I think that to me, with the tackles,

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Speaker 1: the ones, the top ones, I've got it and this

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Speaker 1: is the way I have it. I have a cross

567
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Speaker 1: from Mississippi State, the Quonwu from North Carolina State, and

568
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Speaker 1: then I have Neil from Alabama as my third all

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Speaker 1: first round guys. Neil third, Yeah, hat's Alabama? Have him

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Speaker 1: as a top five potential, him as the number going overall? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number one. I'll tell you why because there's times when

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Speaker 1: you watch him there's there's some one shot blocker to

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Speaker 1: his game. Now, the one SHOT's pretty good, but overall

574
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Speaker 1: sustained for a man and that big I think there's

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, there's I'm I'm more likely to

576
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Speaker 1: pick a guy I think that's a better athlete right

577
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Speaker 1: now because they could get second level stuff that can

578
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Speaker 1: backside scoops and things. Neil's outstandings three hundred and fifty

579
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Speaker 1: seven pounds, don't get me wrong. I got him as

580
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Speaker 1: a first round tackle. But cross of Kuanwu better athletes now,

581
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Speaker 1: you know, like Penning, you know, uh, falle Lee from

582
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Speaker 1: from Minnesota. That's another mammoth man. Uh. You know, I

583
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Speaker 1: don't really see if you want to put one of

584
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Speaker 1: those guys, I don't see Penning, you know, Northern Iowa

585
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Speaker 1: as a guard. I think if you want to guard,

586
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Speaker 1: you just straight draft one and you you came with

587
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Speaker 1: a guard who could play tackle. Oh yeah, so that's

588
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Speaker 1: Green was your guy. So I was thinking either Kenyan

589
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Speaker 1: Green or But my guy that I'm thinking about is

590
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Speaker 1: Darian Kennard from Kentucky. He played tackle at Kentucky translates

591
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Speaker 1: as a guard. Yeah, he's right, fantastic run blocker at

592
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Speaker 1: Kentucky as a tackle, And I was thinking Kenyan Green. Well,

593
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Speaker 1: those plays guard, right guard, left tackle, and right tackles

594
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Speaker 1: all this year. But I think he's an NFL guard. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 1: but he's held up just fine at right tackle. The

596
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Speaker 1: only thing with Green is I don't know, and this

597
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Speaker 1: is still super early on, but I don't know if

598
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Speaker 1: he's going to be even where anywhere close to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I think he's oh, like you may go early. I

600
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Speaker 1: think he goes to the problem with that game is

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Speaker 1: will apply it and will apply He's going top fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty five. Guys. Actually, because I did it to

603
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Speaker 1: see its true, I did it to CD. It was

604
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Speaker 1: like people would send me mock drafts. I think you

605
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Speaker 1: took CD LAMB. You should have rebooted to simulate. Yeah,

606
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Speaker 1: like they're gonna do it with Kenyan Green, We're gonna

607
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Speaker 1: do it with linderbaum N Kobe, Dean, Devn Lloyd and

608
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Speaker 1: just of those four names, I bet you one makes

609
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Speaker 1: it Like I'm pumped that you said that. Wait, you

610
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Speaker 1: have something real? Yeah? Have you taken a look at

611
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Speaker 1: Zion Johnson from Boston College? I have, Yes, I have Okay,

612
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Speaker 1: see I have Johnson over yeah, I do now having

613
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Speaker 1: both the second round. Actually they're touching tags. They both

614
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Speaker 1: have early second rounds. See. I think Green's clearly a

615
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Speaker 1: first round guy because I think the flexibility part. I

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Speaker 1: think I think Zion Johnson from Boston College could play

617
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Speaker 1: both too. Is he strong enough to play? He is?

618
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Speaker 1: Because I wasn't super impressed. Sure he is punch excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think, I think. I mean, there are

620
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Speaker 1: guys like you watch him. I thought he was going

621
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Speaker 1: to come out last year. I did him. I did

622
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Speaker 1: him last year thinking he was going to come out

623
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Speaker 1: and he didn't. And I was like, going, okay, this

624
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Speaker 1: at a but to it's the second one I tried

625
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Speaker 1: to get into. I'm out. I just wanted to ask.

626
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Speaker 1: I tried to get into I just wanted to ask

627
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to see where I wondered. Yeah, I

628
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Speaker 1: wanted to see where he had Canardian relations. Johnson, the

629
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Speaker 1: reason we do this show is so that I can

630
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Speaker 1: hear you talk about some guy by his last name,

631
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Speaker 1: wondering if he's strong enough. Like That's what I'm here for.

632
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Speaker 1: Jerry though, and I think this is a good point. Uh.

633
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Speaker 1: He mentions, he's he literally specified yourself as the GM.

634
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Speaker 1: Jerry out stop it. We're not going there. Sorry, he

635
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Speaker 1: wanted with the He brings up Creed Humphrey, left handed center,

636
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Speaker 1: second round last year, second round pass pick sixty three,

637
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: played at an all pro level for the Chiefs. Guys

638
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: missed him there. He wants to know if you can

639
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: spot a difference between him and Linder Bomb. And the

640
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: point of his question is basically, there's a lot of

641
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: sentiment that says there's no way the Iowa Center falls

642
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: to twenty four. There's no way, There's no way, and

643
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: there is history indicates that that is very possible. He's

644
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: a two hundred and ninety two pounds center. By the way,

645
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: you're Linda Bomb, and it's also what six two something? Yeah,

646
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna see you talk about the best players,

647
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: we talk about the Georgia linebacker. What's his? What's his?

648
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: There you go, he's two hundred and ninety two pounds. See,

649
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: people will look at that. Old crusty guys like me

650
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: will go, God, can't take that guy. Not big enough. No,

651
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: that's what happens in What do you think? Oh? No,

652
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: I love them both. I love them both. I mean again,

653
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I like the athletic offensive lineman. Look

654
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: what you had. How much better your team was when

655
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: you had a guy like you know, with Travis Frederick.

656
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: The ability to cut the defense in half, the ability

657
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: to get the second level? What happened a lot of

658
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: be honest, got better as a year war on. But

659
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: there were times would they just could not get somebody up,

660
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: They could not get somebody wide enough to hook guys.

661
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Just to play Devil's advocate, because I know somebody's going

662
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: to bring this up throughout the process. But Travis Frederick,

663
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: if you're comparing the two, I know you're not. But

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at Tyler Linderbaum six foot three, two

665
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: ninety and then you've got Travis Frederick, who was six

666
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: foot five pushing three ten. I mean they're bigger player.

667
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: It is. Travis Frederick was Travis six five. I don't

668
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: think he was six There's no way I put around

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00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Travis a lot. Well, maybe he was taller than me,

670
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: but if he wasn't he was really he was really script.

671
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: But see that's the thing about Okay, coming out of

672
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: now maybe foot four. Sorry, maybe this is wrong about

673
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: because I went back and looked at my Creed Humphrey

674
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: notes he's six four three twenty eight. Yeah, that's a

675
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: little different, right, that's a that's a but you talk

676
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: about a guy that was really really light on his feet. Yeah,

677
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: he's he's the best center athlete I think ever measured. Yeah,

678
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: if you use like the combine numbers, it's crazy, you know.

679
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: And you wonder why why did Humphrey fall to sixties

680
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: because scout's got freaked out he snaps left handed. That's

681
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: the tape was honestly to me, because his tape was

682
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: good and he was a phenomenal athlete and he got better,

683
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: like Tyler Linderbaum has better tape than Creed Humphrey ever

684
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: put on at Oklahoma. I agree, way better. His tape

685
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: is the best center tape I've ever seen. Tyler Linderbaum's

686
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: a stud. There's not a block he can't make. There's

687
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: not a reach block he can't reach. There's not an

688
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: assignment he's gonna miss. There's not a stunt that's going

689
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: to fool him. There's not a second level block he's

690
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: gonna miss. Your only question is going to be if

691
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: he lines up against jarn Reid, will he get pushed around?

692
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: That's gonna be your only question because everything else and then,

693
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: But that's important, and that's also part of going from

694
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: college to the NFL's get bigger, get stronger. Yeah, Tyler

695
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: Linderbaum's a stud. If he's at twenty four, I don't

696
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: need to know who else is there. So for the

697
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: next four months, you're not allowed to talk good about

698
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: ty Linda Bomb at all because now I'm upset. Now

699
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm so he just I'm putting it out there. If

700
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: he's there it, I don't care who else is. I agree,

701
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: there's not another name that matters he's at all. No, Yeah,

702
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: to me, not even a little bit. Did you did

703
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: you feel it? Did? Okay? Then I know what you're

704
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: saying because what if green was available to drafted guard Linderball.

705
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I was thinking he was going to say,

706
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: I'll play with be honest, if I had green guard,

707
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll put Lyle at left guard and I'll move on

708
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: with my day. So you have linder bamb as your one. Okay,

709
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: let me ask a question. I'm sorry, I don't. I

710
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not the one that she'd be asking question. Fans.

711
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying this well. Were you no? No, no, no,

712
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: no quit please no no. I feel like we were

713
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: headed for a great debate because what I'm about to say,

714
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: it's what you do whenever you put that president in

715
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: the early The show needs to be two hours? Is

716
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: the problem forever? Because two hours? Do you does too?

717
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I love talking draft? Do you think like like she

718
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: needs to be nine hours? I guess the point I

719
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: was trying to make is especial Day two and day three,

720
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: Calm down, everybody, calmed the hell down? Was Tyler Bottish

721
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: as big of a week link as all of the

722
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: focus on lender bombs seems to suggest that he was?

723
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: Because that's that, Like I said, the prevailing sentiment right

724
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: now is like we gotta get this damn center. I

725
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: think it's almost an impossible question because I think everybody

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: that plays offensive line on this team over the course

727
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: of the season and especially the last two or three months,

728
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: didn't play as good as they are individually. Zach Martin

729
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: got beat at times where Zach Martin's not supposed to

730
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: get beat. Tyrn Smith got beat at times where he's

731
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: not supposed to get beat, Lyle Collins, everybody. I think

732
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: if you went through the loss in the playoffs, I

733
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: think Beotish probably had the cleanest game of everybody on

734
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: the line. But your offensive line let you down, and

735
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: if you have a chance to upgrade with a really,

736
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: really good player, you upgrade. So like, do I think

737
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: it's an emergency and you have to replace Tyler Bottish

738
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: him now? But if I have an opportunity to get

739
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: better at a at a position group that let me down,

740
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. Well. Let me ask this just to

741
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: kind of piggyback on it. But if Williams is not available,

742
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: let's pretend he's not even a part of this roster

743
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: moving forward. Do you feel like I think that's pretty plausible,

744
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If if that is the case,

745
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel comfortable at the guard spot moving into

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: the season with options like you can maybe move leo'

747
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: collins over there the season, put him at left guard,

748
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: and then you would go and get a center, or

749
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: you could go sign a veteran guard. Can I change

750
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the line, coach while we're at it? Hey, Hey, hey, sir,

751
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: just asking, That's all I mean. I mean, if that's

752
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: the case, your your your offensive line might look remarkably

753
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: different if you do, if you make that change. I'm

754
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: not I'm not advocating that. I guess I just did.

755
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: But you know this, yeah you kind of did. Okay,

756
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: but cowboy employees like there may be times where they wilt,

757
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: let it rip. I went back. If we get fired,

758
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: I went back, I went I went back and looked

759
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: at my time. Well, come back to the draft show.

760
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Somebody else replaced Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, these guys were tampering,

761
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, see the thing about it with Tyler Beyondest.

762
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at my notes, and I

763
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: think doesn't play with much strength or power. Too many

764
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: snaps where he gets rocked back, stalemated along the line

765
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I think we've seen that, you know, his

766
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: head goes down, he gets in trouble. He can you know,

767
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: he looks like he can see things and all that

768
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: communicate and all that. When he blocks on an angle

769
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: to shield and stuff, that's all good. But he doesn't

770
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: get movement one on one. And that's the thing about it.

771
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's things you saw at Wisconsin that are

772
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: carried over to today, you know, And so if there's

773
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: concerned about Lindenbaum being maybe not strong enough with a

774
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: guy directly on his nose, then you know those are concerns.

775
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: You have to see it, though. First you have to

776
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: pull him. Give me that Minnesota game, or give me that,

777
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, give me one of those games where he's

778
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: playing against somebody big and they're just man handling him.

779
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then I think you'll have to

780
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: adjust your thoughts. I've got a really great question about

781
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles, but I feel like we could do a

782
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: whole segment on it. So I'm gonna save. Oh. I've

783
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: always liked Don Henley. Birds aren't nice reference. Thank you?

784
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: All right? Real? One quick, one quick one from Drew

785
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: before we had to break We've got three en didn't

786
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: we know that this will be the fourth. Okay, go ahead,

787
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead ahead. Running back. He

788
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: wants to know if it's a top one hundred in

789
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Yeah, no, it'd be a luxury. But

790
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: if they picked one that they really liked, I guess

791
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: it's fine. But Pollard's gonna be on the roster's he's

792
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster and this team in this building,

793
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: these guys twenty ones getting the ball even though he shouldn't.

794
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: You've already got a running back who can't get the ball,

795
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: who's better than your starter. What are you gonna do

796
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: with the third one? Get ready for Pollard's departure. Yeah,

797
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: it's not a top one hundred. I think that's why

798
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: you do it. If you do it, is thinking Tony

799
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: Pollard this you should be working on a departure for

800
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: the other one. That's a lot easier saying. I've looked

801
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: at one running back and it was Kenneth Walker from

802
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Michigan State. It doesn't seem like a very good running back.

803
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: It's not he's not I'm in the second round. He's

804
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: a he's a good player, but he's not a first

805
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: round I think there's there's more depth to this running

806
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: back class than there is that top head if you

807
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: prospect pool, which is actually gonna work out, because I

808
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: don't think you should take a running back of the

809
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: top one hundred in that regard, But there's gonna be

810
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: some decent yeah wherever, But there's gonna be some decent

811
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: guys later. You take it, you take it too far,

812
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: you take it like it's imagine doing radio with him.

813
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: It's worth it as a top one hundred. Maybe not

814
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: the first round, but like if a great running back

815
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: is they're starting around pick sixty, I'm getting interested. Question,

816
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: you're only hedging his one hundred by forty picks. I'm surprised,

817
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: but well, the other one would take twenty minutes. Oh

818
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: I am. I'm fascinated by the idea. The Eagles were

819
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: good enough to make the playoffs and they have the

820
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: why why why are you gotta cut me off like that?

821
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: It's running the ball. I just said it, right, Yeah,

822
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: if you run your quarterback fifteen times a game, if

823
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: that's the way you want to play, we don't have

824
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: a chance to win game. We don't have time to

825
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: do it. But Tim, we are We're gonna take your question. Eventually,

826
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Speaker 1: the Eagles were good enough to make the playoffs and

827
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Speaker 1: they have three first round picks right as a divisional Right, well,

828
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I think that's worth getting into total. Absolutely, we'll have

829
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: to save it because we did. We are over, so

830
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: we will head to break. We could make we could

831
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: make the Eagles we got we got like four we

832
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: got to I tried one year, Jeff, I tried to

833
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: make the Eagles score five questions and I feel good

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Speaker 1: about that for the first show of the year. Job.

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Speaker 1: back to the final segment of the first show of

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Speaker 1: No fine, right, all right, first segment, and good dude,

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Speaker 1: thank you for all your questions, a lot of them. Understandably,

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Speaker 1: we're about what I want this segment to be about.

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Speaker 1: So if that's why I that, that might be why

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00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: I ignored your question, and I apologize. But so we

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Speaker 1: look back at this past draft class and kind of

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Speaker 1: how we feel about that, and we've touched on this

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Kyle, you more than everyone else about

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Speaker 1: how you're feeling philosophically about this first round and this roster.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to go around. I'm gonna maybe

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Speaker 1: put y'all on the spot. You can't you can't repeat

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Speaker 1: answers said the interest of entertainment. The number one thing

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Speaker 1: that you want to address with pick twenty four is

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Speaker 1: what And Kyle, I'll start with you. Yeah, it's the

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Speaker 1: offensive line for me, and it's partly because of the need,

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Speaker 1: but it's also because of the prospects that could potentially

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Speaker 1: be there for you as well, in the way that

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Speaker 1: the draft class kind of works in your favorite It

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Speaker 1: goes back to what Brian even said in the first segment.

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Speaker 1: Last couple of years, the best player available has come

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Speaker 1: to you, but it's also been in a position where

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Speaker 1: you could utilize it. And I think that's the best

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Speaker 1: chance that we're going to see that kind of line

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Speaker 1: up together and all the stars a line as if

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Speaker 1: a Lender Bomb and a Green fell to you in

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Speaker 1: the first round. I think that's the ideal scenario. And

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Speaker 1: even if they don't, you're fine picking offensive line in

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Speaker 1: the second and the third rounds there as well, because

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be guys there like as Ion Johnson maybe

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Speaker 1: if he falls to the mid fifties, or a Leviticus

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Speaker 1: Smith or a Jeremy Slayer Smith from Virginia Tech and

918
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Speaker 1: Slayer from Georgia. There are guys that are going to

919
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Speaker 1: be good players in Day two that even if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to go away from offensive line in day one,

921
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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, but I still think it's the

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Speaker 1: number one priority moving forward. I think almost everyone would

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Speaker 1: agree with that, based on the way the season ended. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's a cheater? He took the good answer. Sorry, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take I was just hit me. Wait, you got

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Speaker 1: something else. I just watched San Francisco not score an

927
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Speaker 1: offensive touchdown and win a playoff game. Yeah, if that's

928
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Speaker 1: the way you want to try to do it, it

929
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna work very often. I'm just telling you, though

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Speaker 1: I've seen them, San Francisco has found a way with

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Speaker 1: their front to control games on defense that you need

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Speaker 1: to get better. I mean, your pass rush is fine,

933
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Speaker 1: but you know, let's be honest. Nevill Gallimore wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Bohan and we talked about what's happening

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Speaker 1: at defensive tackle here. If somehow, some way you can

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Speaker 1: address what's going on with your defensive line, you know,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is one of the worst pass defenses in

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Speaker 1: the league. They held Aaron Rodgers a two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty five yards. You could say it was five degrees

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't care, but you want this team

941
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Speaker 1: the last two playoff games have controlled the Cowboys and

942
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Speaker 1: the Packers with defensive line. Don't tell me your front

943
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter here, you know, And if it's depending on

944
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Speaker 1: what happens with Randy Gregory depending on what happens with

945
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Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence in that contract. You know this team's up

946
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Speaker 1: against it in a couple of different ways. You might

947
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Speaker 1: be forced to be to address your defensive line at

948
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So other than Hutchinson and Thibodeau, who are

949
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Speaker 1: just the Cowboys have no chance of drafting. We don't

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Speaker 1: really need to even talk about it. How do you

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Speaker 1: do that? At twenty four? George carluftis the which he

952
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Speaker 1: may not be, but you know, I'll be interesting what

953
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Speaker 1: happens with lyle from the from Texas A and U.

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Speaker 1: Sorry not a fan. Well let me do a favorite.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna make that sound, let's hear a report. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want yeah to Marvin Leel

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M. I have him as like a

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Speaker 1: second round defensive tackle because he has the physical traits

959
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Speaker 1: to be a really really good player. To me on tape,

960
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Speaker 1: he's never put it together. I watched, I believe it

961
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Speaker 1: was Cross. I believe I watched the Mississippi State game

962
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Speaker 1: and Marvin Leale never ever, on any snap, made Charles

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Speaker 1: Cross uncomfortable in any way, shape or form. Is he

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Speaker 1: a quick guy that can play defensive tackle, yes. Will

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Speaker 1: he flash the ability to make plays in the backfield, yes?

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Speaker 1: Does he flash the ability to be a power player

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage? Yes? Does he do any

968
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Speaker 1: of those things consistently? No? So de Marvin Leal to

969
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Speaker 1: me is a that's probably about right late first round

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Speaker 1: pick where somebody's taken a swing on what they think

971
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Speaker 1: he can be. I want to be able to trust

972
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Speaker 1: my first round pick that I've seen him do it.

973
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Speaker 1: Who's your top interior defensive lineman then Jordan Davis. But

974
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Speaker 1: he's a two down player. Yeah, so that's hard and

975
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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's going to be a guy that

976
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Speaker 1: people keep going back to just because he's so unique.

977
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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis out of Georgia. I'm very confident we're talking

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Speaker 1: about you see. That's what I'm saying though. To me,

979
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Speaker 1: you look at these teams and we talk about you

980
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: got to defend the run, You got to defend the run.

981
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: It's not the case anymore. You know, teams throw the football,

982
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you're sitting here talking about the

983
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They will have to defend the run.

984
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Speaker 1: They rushed the passer. Yeah, forty nine ers. The forty

985
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Speaker 1: nine ers in the game against you had they lost

986
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Speaker 1: their best player and still put you in peril. They

987
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Speaker 1: got better after they lost their best player. Honestly, come on, man,

988
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Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter. Get ends, get tackles addressed. The

989
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Speaker 1: defensive line, You're you're going to be in some trouble here.

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Speaker 1: So you're just saying the front in general. I'm seeing

991
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Speaker 1: the front, yeah, because you don't know what's going to happen.

992
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Like I say, if teams are going to throw the ball,

993
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Speaker 1: what's the one thing that this team did a good

994
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Speaker 1: job of rushing the passer? Yeah, you know that was

995
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the one thing. You know why they rushed the passers

996
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: so well because they got leads. Now, maybe it is

997
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: about helping the guard and the tackles and the stuff.

998
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Speaker 1: Like if you want to talk about the commonalities of

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Speaker 1: the team's left right now, and this probably is going

1000
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Speaker 1: to help somebody like de Marvin lee l who's a

1001
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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty nine pound defensive tackle. Uh gosh,

1002
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Speaker 1: when I think about what they having common. Eric Armstead

1003
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Speaker 1: is a penetrating monster on the interior. Aaron Donald is

1004
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Speaker 1: maybe the best player in football. Chris Jones is one

1005
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Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in football from the interior.

1006
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Speaker 1: If you find you somebody on the interior they can

1007
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Speaker 1: pass rush. That seems to work out well. And what's

1008
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: the most disruptive type of pressure to a quarterback the mire.

1009
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: But just in general, and again, I mean we'll get

1010
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Speaker 1: I'm just being different from the answering game. I mean,

1011
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Speaker 1: if you want to think about I mean, but I

1012
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Speaker 1: think I appreciate, I think this is worthwhile. But just

1013
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Speaker 1: from the preliminary research that I've done, you know, like

1014
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Speaker 1: going back, a couple of drafts like Derek Brown and

1015
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Speaker 1: javon Kin Law aren't in this draft class or am

1016
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Speaker 1: I wrong? I don't know they are. They're not. Yeah,

1017
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Speaker 1: you're not. Jeffrey Simmons isn't in this draft class. Guy,

1018
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Speaker 1: I don't think they are. Well, then you know what

1019
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: you could do? Okay, Then what I should have said then,

1020
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Speaker 1: is any player on defense linebacker. Listen, there's a couple

1021
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Speaker 1: of safeties in this draft. I don't know the safeties

1022
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Speaker 1: you've looked at, but there's a you know, there's a

1023
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Speaker 1: couple of quarterback you can't let him pick the whole

1024
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Speaker 1: Give me, give me Kyle hamis argument, which, yeah, that's

1025
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Speaker 1: a great point. Thank you to pick wide receiver. That's

1026
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Speaker 1: that's where you go. Though, I'm I'm not like making

1027
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Speaker 1: fun I'm curious. No, if he didn't get to take

1028
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Speaker 1: every defensive position. Um, if you're talking about Ryan, I

1029
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to take every defensive position. I said defensive line.

1030
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: If if he's sticking with defensive just say defensive tackle.

1031
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: For the sake of giving you some choices, give me

1032
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: the exact framing of the question. Again, what do you

1033
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: think is this team's biggest need? And we're just gonna say,

1034
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: assuming you know, just take offensive line. Can't say defensive tackle.

1035
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Speaker 1: This doesn't mean that I want to pick it at

1036
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Speaker 1: twenty four. But if you want to know this team's

1037
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: biggest need, it's safety. This team, this team, like right

1038
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: now in the safety room, it's Donovan Wilson on a

1039
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: stool spinning circles. Well, that's who's in the room. That

1040
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: is myself looking around versus up Kase. He's up up,

1041
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: And I mean, that's the tricky part about starting this show.

1042
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: And Jay, one of those guys will be back right,

1043
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: depends on if your defensive code you listened to Stephen

1044
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: Jones on our show. I don't remember what he said.

1045
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: They'll keep their own guys. They just don't saybody else's

1046
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Oh, I mean, they're not going

1047
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: to be big spenders, but like Mallie Cooker, you know,

1048
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Speaker 1: I have to spend a ton of money to get

1049
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Malie Cooker back here. Good or bad. Mollie Cooker, I

1050
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: thought he was pretty good this year and thought he

1051
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: got better too. He wasn't. I'm glad. I'm glad I was.

1052
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you, guys. I just asked the question

1053
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: in a way I didn't think. I mean, I didn't

1054
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: think Kay Bay else would say, is any good? I

1055
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: think most people would probably say And that sounds weird

1056
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: because nobody took his job, But I think most people

1057
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: would probably prioritize Hooker over Casey. I would. I think

1058
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: most people started playing him more after the DUI think well,

1059
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: and also, Casey doesn't want to step up and hitting

1060
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: anybody either. Let's throw his body around a little bit.

1061
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I saw him kind of get run over a couple

1062
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: of times times. He's a smaller guy. I mean, he's

1063
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: a corner playing safety. He was teammate he would take anybody.

1064
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Go get a real safety. Go get Dax Hill from

1065
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: from Michigan. I mean, yeah, guy could play in the slot.

1066
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Some of the some on Brisker from Penn State. There's

1067
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: there's somebody there some Twitter, but he but here. They

1068
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: would have to do that for me to believe it

1069
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: would happen. That's why it goes all the way back

1070
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: to that. That's a deep rooted thing. That's why he

1071
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: question the phrase, you of the question because if it's

1072
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: biggest need to me, the real answer with every position

1073
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: available is safety. But is it likely they're going to

1074
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: address that with a high pick in the draft. Probably not.

1075
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: That's their biggest need today. So Kyle Hamilton at Notre

1076
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: Dame is the unquestioned safety boss of this guy. Yeah,

1077
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: he's he's gone way No, that's no. I was gonna

1078
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: say he's he's out of here. Yeah, So in our arrange,

1079
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: if he was there over linder bomb, would you take

1080
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: linder Bomb? Still? I did say it doesn't matter, but

1081
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: that's because I assumed happy. Sure, But when you just

1082
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: want to throw it out there, I will also take

1083
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson if he makes it to twenty four. Who's

1084
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: our Who's our Penn State guy brisks Jakwan Brisker, Brisker, Brisker,

1085
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like like the like brisk tea or actually

1086
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: brisket with an R. You watch Catalan yet from Arkansas?

1087
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Is he coming out? He's not. I'm not coming out

1088
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: and it's okay. But then that's one of the ones

1089
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: that I had him in high school. Catalan's a good

1090
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: player from Arkansas, by the way. Player. I had him

1091
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: over Brisker by the way. That's why I asked he's

1092
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: probably done him and he didn't come out. He'd probably

1093
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: be like Dye provided the list to me and I'm like, yeah,

1094
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I know. I had him in the second I had

1095
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Brisker in the second round too. Oh. That's all I've

1096
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: been doing for the last week is going through different

1097
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: people's like top one fifty and mean, like, okay, what's

1098
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: what's this guy's story? How do you pronounce this guy's name? Yeah? So,

1099
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: but say like and again, I guess it's hard to project,

1100
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: but like, I assume one of those guys will be

1101
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: back in the building, preferably both. I don't know, what

1102
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: do you think jay Ron Curse will be worth it?

1103
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: In two months? He played really well, there's two guys

1104
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: who have now remade themselves. Yeah, him, curse gonna have

1105
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a market. Yep, he now proved he can cover. We

1106
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't believe he can cover coming out of clims, and

1107
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: we thought he was a bum. And I thought he

1108
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't try hard and didn't like football. Come he loves

1109
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: football and he can cover. We were wrong about him.

1110
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: The guy you're tied in also is gonna make money.

1111
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's gonna make money. Somebody on I didn't.

1112
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: I did not propose that on Twitter and on the

1113
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: twenty for that very reason. Widermeyer, somebody named Drip Wheeler

1114
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: said it's like a stock car driver. That's because that

1115
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: would be Rip Wheeler in days of thunder. I believe

1116
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: that Rusty Wheeler. Rather it's Rusty wheel How big, how

1117
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: big of a need? Do you see a tight end?

1118
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, Dalton Schultz fourth rounds, fine, sprinkle whatever you

1119
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: think me a big I've seen one. I've seen one.

1120
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: Whidermeyer is the only one I've watched. And he I

1121
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: tell you what he's he's a really good player. But

1122
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you're probably not gonna pick

1123
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: a tight end in the first round bringing Gronk. I

1124
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: want a blocking tight end if I'm gonna go draft

1125
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: the guy and is there a blocking both is sure?

1126
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Jake Ferguson from Wisconsin, Okay,

1127
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: watch make sense us guys. Traditional disappoint me those Wisconsin

1128
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: guys every time they talk about blocking tight end. I'm like, oh,

1129
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: look at this guy. It's a big tackle out there,

1130
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: and guy gets in the league. He can't block. It's

1131
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: a pillow fight play offensive lineman at tight end. Don't

1132
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: worry about all that. It worked well last year. Should

1133
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: have thrown it to Steel on that one play he

1134
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: presented his numbers. He was in the middle of the field,

1135
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: he was open, he caught a touchdown pass. Yeah, but

1136
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: in the playoff game he and they went double fullback

1137
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: and both of them are open, but eight yards downfield.

1138
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why Dad didn't trust him. As long

1139
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: as we're going back to that, and so you've all

1140
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: answered the question, we've still got some time to kill

1141
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins guard depends if if is that a thing?

1142
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: If Philbin stays around for Phil you know what, to

1143
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you, instead of going back to Connor Williams,

1144
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: they should have went ahead. If they really did believe

1145
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: that Steele was one of their best linemen, they should

1146
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: have put Steel at right tackle and put Collins at guard.

1147
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: If they if they're going to keep going back to Connor,

1148
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: Williams might have been the bad play here. They might

1149
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: have been able to see what it looks like with

1150
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Steel because they love Steele. They love the fact he

1151
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: comes in, he tries hard, he you know, he works everything.

1152
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: He's a coach's pet kind of a guy, you know,

1153
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: really cares about the game. They love everything about him.

1154
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Nobody says anything bad about him. They think he's their best,

1155
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: one of their best players, one of the best offensive lineman.

1156
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, take Lyle Collins. They should

1157
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: have done that at least to see what it looked like,

1158
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: because that's what this team might be in twenty twenty two.

1159
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that might be politics, the

1160
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: politics of football. Let me tell you what. The offensive

1161
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: line coach is best friends with the head coach, so

1162
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: that carries a big stick. It's like having bones fossil

1163
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: in your building, you know, Mike, I think we need

1164
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: to I'm not sure. Whatever, Yeah, sure, special team. I'll

1165
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, you know what he you know, he

1166
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: survived the kicker situation. You know, it didn't kill you

1167
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: at the end, and he found a Pro Bowl punter.

1168
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, give him at it for that. They were.

1169
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: They were a top eight special teamed unit this year too.

1170
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Look at the Packers they went home because of their

1171
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: special teams. You know, it's something to that. But if

1172
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: you're a coach on staff and you carry a big

1173
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: stick with the head coach, the Joe Philbins those guys,

1174
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: there's always going to be a place for the guys

1175
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: that he wants his pet cats to play. Who's the

1176
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: next guy you're gonna watch? Man? I mean, we've just

1177
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: there's I've been very fortunate because I was just trying

1178
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: to do two or three at night, and now I'm passed.

1179
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: I started with Dane Brugler's top fifty and so now

1180
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: he had me watching a center last night from a

1181
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: well actually guard from Memphis that you know, it's really

1182
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: not It was like a fourth round player, and I

1183
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: was just kind of, yeah, it's star, it's January. You

1184
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: want to watch the heavy hitters. And Jane, this guy

1185
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: was two hundred and eighty five pounds. He's a good player,

1186
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: but I mean on the list, I'm just taking the

1187
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: list and kind of like you said, take people's list.

1188
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: I trust Dane a lot, but you know, that guy's

1189
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: like a fourth round player. I'm hopeful that I need.

1190
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: I need to get some of these linebackers done. I

1191
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: need to get some of the outside linebackers done. That's

1192
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of the direction I'm going. Sneaky area of need.

1193
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: What about you, sneaky area of need? Yeah, um, i'd

1194
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: probably say linebackers too. That's where I'm at right now.

1195
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: I've kind of watched the heavy hitters on the offensive

1196
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and I'm kind of going through

1197
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: the defense. I started with safety in corner and now

1198
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of at the linebacker spot, which is a

1199
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: little anti conducive to what to what Brian was talking

1200
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: about in terms of the defensive line. I still haven't

1201
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: watched a ton of those guys. I've watched like the Leale,

1202
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: I have overdone the edges. I there's no there's no

1203
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: overdoing again. Like we're gonna be back and yeah, I mean,

1204
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: we're running out of time here, but we'll be back

1205
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: Thursday and then two days a week until freaking May

1206
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: so you got you can't overdo It's no, no, I'm

1207
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: just saying this. I'm looking at my board right now.

1208
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: You know I've got I mean, like I say, Thibodeaux, Hutchison,

1209
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Carloftis Walker a JOBU you know, I mean those that's

1210
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: five edges are you have in the first round right there?

1211
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: And then not to mention Jermaine Johnson, Cam Thomas, by

1212
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: the way, you need to watch Cam Thomas from San

1213
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: Diego State. It's a good player, all right. Well before

1214
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: that next week, yeah, I was about to say, yeah,

1215
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: I got some homework for all of y'all. We'll be

1216
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: back Thursday, and it'll be the last time we do

1217
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: a show before the league descends on mobile. I believe

1218
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: for the Senior Bowl. We're gonna talk about that. I

1219
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: want to hear about your pet cats on the Senior

1220
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: Bowl roster. We will do that Thursday. Thank you all

1221
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. It's exciting, maybe maybe still

1222
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: slightly disappointing, but exciting to be back on this journey

1223
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: once again. Thanks for joining Cheff with the power pose

1224
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: appreciate that. We will talk to y'all Thursday. This has

1225
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas cowboys dot com and the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club. M hmm.