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Speaker 1: Oh, good time of Steve Tasker. Touchdown, touchdowns down tucht

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Speaker 1: more time, start a new week, start of a new day.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, and welcome to the show. It is One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from Orchard Park from One Bill's Drive, where

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Speaker 1: the carpet is up at new era of field, the

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Speaker 1: field being replaced. We've been keeping the track of that

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Speaker 1: Those of you watching on MSG can see that. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, everybody. If you're watching on MSG, listening

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Speaker 1: on our flagship here in Buffalo, w g R Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio by fifty, you'll be happy to know that Steve

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Speaker 1: is back. Steve Tasker, Small of Famer is back after

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Speaker 1: a well deserved week, a week off, vacation off. Good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. I told I said this to Jay,

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Speaker 1: and I told you, and he came, we missed your

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Speaker 1: energy last week. We did. Thanks. Yeah, it's good to

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Speaker 1: have you back. Yeah, it's good to be back. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about the show. I I tuned in, like

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Speaker 1: And so that because of the time change, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: and then I promptly turned you off. So I get

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Speaker 1: on my vacation. You were an anchorage visiting. You're visiting

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Speaker 1: your daughter Annie, Right, that's been out there for a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you go out there and it's like, oh my gosh, no,

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Speaker 1: speech ahead or halftime? What was this pre game? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was just really Uh. I was doing a favor

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Speaker 1: for one of my good friends. I had to get

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Speaker 1: in a video. Okay, he knew I was a like

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Speaker 1: a motivasing no guy. Yeah, we just came up with

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Speaker 1: something and it's motivation. Let's let's do it and keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on it's It's Jakwan Johnson in high school

431
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Speaker 1: back in Miami Achillian Senior High School. To be great,

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Speaker 1: it's a privilege. You're not born with talent. You have

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Speaker 1: to earn it many ways. That's end by not doing

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Speaker 1: what it's necessary. But to be great, you have to

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Speaker 1: outwork everyone else. You have to push itself over and

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Speaker 1: over again. And when you're on your knees, sweat tripping

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Speaker 1: down from your face, get up, push itself. It takes discipline, tribe, determination, preparation,

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Speaker 1: then execution. I work my opponent that they don't know

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Speaker 1: what it takes to the seed. Give me my cleat

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Speaker 1: and my helmet. Let's go jolly in high school and

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Speaker 1: I mean that's like professionally produced that serious like video

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Speaker 1: there Dequin talking what got you going into that? Basically?

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Speaker 1: You know, um, in high school, I was a quiet

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Speaker 1: guy my freshman year around my sophomore, junior, senior. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just took that role, and you know, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to win and I wanted to bring the team together.

447
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Speaker 1: So me speaking just gave me the opportunity. So that's

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Speaker 1: what we did. That could be one of the qualities

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Speaker 1: that this coaching STLF was looking for. And you and

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Speaker 1: it continued in to your days that the youth at

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Speaker 1: the University of Miami, Florida, because you're credited with one

452
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Speaker 1: of the games this last year when you were getting

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Speaker 1: thumped pretty good by Florida State, you had a little

454
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Speaker 1: something to say to your teammate, and you came back

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Speaker 1: out in the second half of a lot of teammates

456
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Speaker 1: after after the game said we came back and won

457
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Speaker 1: that game because of in part at least what Jaquan

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Speaker 1: said at halftime. You remember that, Yeah, definitely, Uh, I

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Speaker 1: remember that like it was yesterday. You know, Florida State

460
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Speaker 1: came out firing and we weren't playing our game, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know when when we got back in that locker room,

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Speaker 1: I just I just you know, told the team what

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Speaker 1: I thought, what was on my mind, what needed to

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Speaker 1: be said, and that was basically that we need to

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Speaker 1: play our game. We're playing on discipline, we're playing out

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Speaker 1: of character. We got to get back to what we

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Speaker 1: know and how we practice. And besides, I'm a senior.

468
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Speaker 1: It's my last game, so you know, those guys respected

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Speaker 1: me for saying that. You also, at Miami, you guys

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Speaker 1: developed the thing with and you seem to have it

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Speaker 1: on a lot. The turnover change what's the story behind

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Speaker 1: that and how do you wind up wearing the turnover

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Speaker 1: change so much? Well, you know, the turnover plane is

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Speaker 1: a Miami thing. You know when you think of Miami,

475
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Speaker 1: think of guy the Miami flash flashiness, Rims gold jewelry. Yeah, so, uh,

476
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Speaker 1: it's basically close dias He you know, he came up

477
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Speaker 1: with that idea about you know, if you get a turnover,

478
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Speaker 1: we get to put on a turnover chain and you know,

479
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Speaker 1: hype up the crowd and uh, at the University of Miami,

480
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Speaker 1: I was able to get it several times. Uh, just playing,

481
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Speaker 1: just playing the game. But I mean everybody on the

482
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Speaker 1: team wanted it. That's from the special teams to the offense.

483
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Speaker 1: They wanted the touchdown chain. So that didn't happen. But

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Speaker 1: but that's how it was. Did that Did that change

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Speaker 1: from time to time? Did they get a different chain too?

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Speaker 1: I mean do they You didn't get to keep it, obviously,

487
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Speaker 1: you traded it out, right, But it was a different

488
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Speaker 1: change every chain every week because sometimes it had the

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Speaker 1: thing on it. Sometimes it was it get broken or

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Speaker 1: something because everybody hugging you right, Oh, I'm not uh,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, from year to year. So the first year

492
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Speaker 1: it was the you and then and then the second

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Speaker 1: year we had to change it with the ibis. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: so that's heard. Forget about it. Run back out of

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Speaker 1: the field for reps or something with the chain, Oh no,

496
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Speaker 1: they made sure that you don't run back on the

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Speaker 1: be dangerous out there. Turn out are key. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the Bills are looking for turnovers right there from the

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield. If they talked about that with you, it's definitely,

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Speaker 1: you know, playoff caliber, that's that's the mindset here and

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Speaker 1: uh on defense, we're looking to play fast, physical, take

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Speaker 1: the ball away, and trust each other. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: the weekend. What was that like with the weekend rookie

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Speaker 1: mini camp, the pace of it, what went on here?

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Speaker 1: Did you feel comfortable at all this past weekend? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely. I definitely was able to feel how the

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Speaker 1: coaches would coach me. They were on me pretty hard,

508
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Speaker 1: like coaches should be. Everything fast, temple up temple. They

509
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Speaker 1: want perfect technique in details. They want you to be

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Speaker 1: a professional. You know, you're you're making a big transition,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think I would pretty much able

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Speaker 1: to do that for the most part. With the rookie

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Speaker 1: mini camp, but now that I'm going into with the Vets,

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Speaker 1: now it's going to be different from memor how to

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Speaker 1: adjust again and hopefully those guys can help me out something.

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Speaker 1: How is the installation going and they're starting to put

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Speaker 1: stuff in a little bit like drinking out of a

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Speaker 1: firehod is a little overwhelming? Yeah, definitely, you know that installation.

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Speaker 1: We have plays going in every day. You have to study,

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Speaker 1: you have to take care of your body, have to

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Speaker 1: be a professional. You can't really play around right right

522
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Speaker 1: right about nine if you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm looking forward to the challenge. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do my entire life. We

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Speaker 1: were talking before he came out of the air about

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Speaker 1: the leadership in front of you with the safety position,

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Speaker 1: and you've got Mica Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Those are

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Speaker 1: a couple of veteran leaders who I'm sure will be

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Speaker 1: more than happy to help you out and get you

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Speaker 1: acclimated to the NFL. Yeah. I'm definitely ready to gravitate

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Speaker 1: towards those guys and you know, listen to whatever they

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Speaker 1: have to say. Even the other guys, I'm they've been here.

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Speaker 1: I haven't so I'm all is Jaquen. You've been here

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Speaker 1: since Thursday. I think our listeners would be interested in

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Speaker 1: what the typical days have been like for you. I

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Speaker 1: think your days are here. The last four or five

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Speaker 1: days are probably much longer than people would expect. Tell

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Speaker 1: us what like today looks like? Schedule wives, when you

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Speaker 1: get here, when you get to get get out of here?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much? So today I woke up at six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I got here at like sixty five. Treatment breakfast, after

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Speaker 1: that you go right into lifting, working out. After that

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Speaker 1: team defensive meeting. So we're in the meeting with the veterans.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we have a special team meeting as well,

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Speaker 1: and then defensive meetings. Then after that we left walk through.

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Speaker 1: Then we have a team meeting. Then after this we

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Speaker 1: have to go back and have rookie defensive meeting and

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Speaker 1: all those type of things. What time would you be

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Speaker 1: out of here late this afternoon? Yeah, probably around five six.

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Speaker 1: It's a long day compared to you, admit, is right.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about special teams. Likely to play a role

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Speaker 1: on special teams that I would think right as you

553
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: get more acclimated here, yeah, definitely, I'm looking forward to

554
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Speaker 1: playing special teams. I was able to play all four

555
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Speaker 1: years at the university in Miami, so I'm pretty comfortable

556
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Speaker 1: he's my new favorite. Now. So what are they installing

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Speaker 1: our punt team now? First thing in the first thing

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Speaker 1: actually today was a kickoff return during rookie minicamp. We

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Speaker 1: did a bunch of punt team and uh and kickoff. Juan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about how it's been a busy couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks where you the draft was what three weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and you've also graduated what a couple of months ago

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Speaker 1: right now December. Tell me about the degree and why

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Speaker 1: it was important to you to get that degree. Really, Uh,

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Speaker 1: my degree was Human Social Development. I told to go

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Speaker 1: that route because I wanted to have my own non

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Speaker 1: profit organization back home, and I wanted to have basically

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Speaker 1: a mentor set y m C, a after school care

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Speaker 1: type type deal. And uh, I feel like that that, uh,

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Speaker 1: that major will help me get a lot of grants

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Speaker 1: and and money for the program. That's great, stratulations. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're here for like fifteen years. Man. Yeah, that's awesome,

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Speaker 1: great to me. Thank you. Jikwan Johnson is the Bill

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Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick from Miami. Stephen I coming back

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Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio flyde from one whel Drive. I'm John Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Steve Taker is back back from vacation. We're all happy

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Speaker 1: you're back, Steve. Your vacation with a certain amount of

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Speaker 1: I'm respected. Last week, I'm happy to be talking about

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Speaker 1: you being gone again. And people were no, no, listeners

581
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Speaker 1: and viewers were interested, like, where the heck Steve, he's

582
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: gone again? Basically it was right. That was our Twitter

583
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Speaker 1: pole Tuesday. You've got a little time off coming up too,

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00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: so you know, pick your spots here because June you

585
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Speaker 1: won't see me as things will come around. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things here, thanks Dud Jakwan Johnson. You know,

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Speaker 1: it just occurred to me. He's been there since Thursday,

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Speaker 1: right Thursday afternoon. They around the field, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and again today. He admitted to us even before we're

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Speaker 1: on the air, and even on the air that today

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Speaker 1: is a little different. All those veterans out there and

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Speaker 1: it's a long day. And then in the middle of

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Speaker 1: all that he's got to come out here and talk

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Speaker 1: to a couple of Knucke heads like you and me here,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of I'm sure it's head spinning, you know,

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Speaker 1: a kid from Miami. U of M seemed like a

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Speaker 1: good kid, and we wish him well. I'm sure. Look

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Speaker 1: he's got a chance, right, I mean, he's got Ed

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Speaker 1: Reid's blessing. He's got a chance to do something here,

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Speaker 1: especially on special teams. And we heard the little the

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Speaker 1: video he had done in high school where it was

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Speaker 1: kind of a hype video about being it the best

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Speaker 1: you can be. And then we've heard some of the

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Speaker 1: anecdotes about what he's what he did it at the

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Speaker 1: U with the turnover chain, and also being a guy

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Speaker 1: who stands up at halftime, gives a speech and spurs

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Speaker 1: his team onto a second half comeback win over a rival.

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Speaker 1: He's that kind of guy. We also said too, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people have the wrong idea.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's in a great spot. He's

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Speaker 1: sitting behind Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde, he plays special teams.

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Speaker 1: He is an absolute shoe in to make the roster

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Speaker 1: as ane hundred and eighty first player selected overall. He's

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Speaker 1: got a chance to sit back and really develop up

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Speaker 1: and become and watch how it's done and get a

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Speaker 1: chance to get the system under his belt before he's

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Speaker 1: ever asked to actually start or play significant time in it.

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Speaker 1: He'll get a chance to contribute in a lot of

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Speaker 1: different ways before the pressure comes on him to be

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Speaker 1: a guy that's out there for ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: the snap defensive snaps. He's in a perfect spot to

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Speaker 1: start off on a really long, productive career. He's in

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Speaker 1: the perfect spot for it. And a lot of people say, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you gotta come listen. Safety is a

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Speaker 1: tough spot to be in. You've got a lot of knowledge,

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Speaker 1: You've got a game right, it's a lot of mental preparation.

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Speaker 1: It's being the it's the and the analogy is a

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Speaker 1: little overdone, but it's the quarterback of the defense. You

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Speaker 1: got to know what the front, what the linebackers are doing,

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Speaker 1: and the secondary, and you got to get them all

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Speaker 1: working together. And you're the one who screams and hollers

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Speaker 1: and tells everybody where the lineup. So it takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of knowledge and a real depth of knowledge, not

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Speaker 1: just about football in general, but about NFL football. And

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Speaker 1: he's in a great spot to have a chance has

636
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Speaker 1: to digest a lot of that before he's ever asked

637
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: to really produce. He's got great, great guidance in leadership

638
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: from Poyer and Hid we talked about and even as

639
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: a position coach. He saw you're watching on the video side.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Babbitt, good young, high energy coach who will be

641
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Speaker 1: right in his face, putting him, you know, in the

642
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Speaker 1: right direction. He's got a lot of good guidance there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we thank you Kuan for joining us. That's gonna be

644
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: good here at One Bills Drive. The Bills announced today

645
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Speaker 1: that they've signed tight end Lee Smith to a three

646
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: year contract. He's thirty one years old. Second stint with

647
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: the Bills. We hope to get him on the show later.

648
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Spent the last couple of years with the Oakland Raiders,

649
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: where he played for four years. A good blocker. I

650
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: think he provides for the Bills Steve, and we'll talk

651
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: to him about if we can get him on the

652
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: show later. He provides leadership in that tight end room.

653
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: The tight end room is a little bit light on

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Speaker 1: experience and leadership. There's some good candidates there, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's theory, he wants a leader in every meeting room,

656
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Speaker 1: and I think in Lee Smith, who's on, as we said,

657
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: his second turn here with the Bills, he'll get that

658
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of leadership. He'll get that kind of guidance for

659
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: the rest of those young guys in that room. Yeah,

660
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: he's a solid blocking guy on the end of the

661
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: line scrimmage where he was watching guys on people on

662
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: msgear watched him. He can get out and get some

663
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Speaker 1: get some space. He caught a touchdown against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: He's caught. He catches the ball occasionally. U. But he

665
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: is a grinded out, toughest nails guy down inside. Uh.

666
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Speaker 1: And he's a solid, dependable tight end. Certainly an NFL

667
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Speaker 1: caliber tight end. Uh. If not, he's not an elite

668
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: tight end, but he's certainly a guy that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: you know, virtually all the rosters in the NFL at

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Speaker 1: that position. He's that good. I mean, he's gonna He's

671
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Speaker 1: never gonna be the guy like an Antonio Gates or

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, a Tony Gonzalez or somebody like that, but

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Speaker 1: he is gonna be one of the other guys on

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Speaker 1: just about any other team you can name, because he's

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Speaker 1: good down inside, and he's good enough at everything that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the field. So he's good. It's

677
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: a good signing for the Bills. And I think it

678
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: says something the Bills gave him a three year deal

679
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: with a little bit of guaranteed money into the second year. Um,

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: this is exactly the kind of guy that the Bills

681
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: want in that tight end room. He joins the room

682
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Speaker 1: with Tyler Croft, the UH unrestricted free agent signed back

683
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Speaker 1: in March, Jason Krum, the loan holdover from last year's

684
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Speaker 1: tight end crew, and a couple of draft picks Dotson Knocks,

685
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Speaker 1: a third rounder this year, and Tommy Sweeney, the seventh

686
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: rounder this year. I hope we can get talk to him.

687
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Speaker 1: I like Lee Smith, one of the best, one of

688
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: the best interview guests that we've ever had here over

689
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: the years. Is he good? Oh No, he's just fun.

690
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: He's a fun guy. You'll met him, you'll love him.

691
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: I've met him, but I've never had a chance to

692
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: be Yeah, it's fun, great sense of humor, and I

693
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: think'll be a good leader our topic of the day.

694
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Speaker 1: And you know what we say, Steve, whenever you're in

695
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: doubt about what makes a good topic, go to the

696
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks always go to the simpler is better. Yeah, and

697
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: simpler is better. Topic of the day. Which Buffalo Bill's

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00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: offseason edition will benefit Josh Allen the most? That's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: Which Bill's offseason addition will benefit Josh Allen the most.

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Speaker 1: It's a Twitter poll as a matter of fact, a

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Speaker 1: couple of suggestions for you. Is it wide receiver Cole Beasley,

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00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the unrestricted free agent from Dallas. Is it center Mitch Morrise,

703
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the unrestricted free agent from Kansas City, Is it quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: coach Ken Darcy or is it someone else? On the

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Speaker 1: early part of the Twitter poll, with eighteen hundred votes

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Speaker 1: in sixty one percent of you say the addition of

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Speaker 1: Mitch Morse will benefit Josh Allen the most. Hard to

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Speaker 1: argue with that. Thirty percent say the addition of Cole

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Beasley wide receiver, slot receiver will benefit Josh Ellen the most.

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Only six percent say quarterbacks coach Ken Dorsey, I think

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00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: that's a little bit underrated, and four percent of somebody

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00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: else in mind? What do you think? Give us a

713
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: call to discuss or tweet in your response on the

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Speaker 1: Twitter pole or send it a tweet We might read

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Speaker 1: it on the tweet sheet. The number to call if

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Speaker 1: you want to talk on the air eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty in Buffalo. Outside Buffalo, it's a toll

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Speaker 1: free call one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Which Bill's offseason edition will benefit Josh Allen the moment?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think, because that's a tough question. Those

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Speaker 1: are three good choices, and I'm surprised that one of

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Speaker 1: them is running away with Mitch Morse. Obviously, with all

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Speaker 1: the issues the offensive line had last year, certainly that's

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00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: the that was the most glaring need coming into their

725
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: off season. And making Mitch Morse the most high the

726
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: highest paid center in the NFL was a big step.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they all, everybody had their sites on Matt Parradis,

728
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the guy from Denver, but he was thirty one, and

729
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris was on a much better football team, much

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Speaker 1: better offense, and he's only twenty six. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a brilliant signing. I think that most people have agreed. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: most people in Bill's country was sixty one percent saying

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Speaker 1: he's going to be the most benefit. I don't know, though,

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Speaker 1: My thought would be because I have this thing about

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Speaker 1: I think it's Ken Dorsey. Ken Dorsey is gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the room and on the field with Josh almost

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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: twelve hours a day, every day of the season and

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Speaker 1: most days of the off season. When when Josh is

739
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: in the room and in the building, Ken Dorsey's gonna

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: be in his hip pocket, and they are gonna have

741
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Speaker 1: a real They've got to have a real working relationship,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the biggest positive, I think the

743
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: biggest effect that's going to be had on Josh Allen

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: because Ken Dorsey is also one of those guys as

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00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: a coach, is going to be able to steer Josh

746
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Allen into who is going to help him the most

747
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: on the field, whether whether it's you know, Mitch Morse,

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00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: or whether it's Cole Beasley, whether it's John Brown, whether's

749
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, whether it's any of the other guys. You know,

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00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: those are the guys. Ken Dorsey's going to be the

751
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: one who steers him in the direction. It's gonna have

752
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the biggest effect on where Josh Allen's head is at

753
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: any given moment, what his thought process is at any

754
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: given moment, what his decision making process in every play

755
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: is going to start with and end with you know,

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00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's gonna be in his ear constantly throughout the

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Speaker 1: offseason and in season. Uh, this is you know, I'm

758
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: this is goes on on. But when you're in a

759
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: situation like Josh Allen, Ken Dorsey is, and as well

760
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: as Brian day Ball and you know Sean McDermott, these

761
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: are lifelong relationships that you get that you gather with

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00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: guys that you're coached at that position. They're along relationships

763
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: and Ken Dorsey and Josh own are just getting underway.

764
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Brian Dables got a full year under his belt. This

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Ken Dorsey on the list of choices,

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the one that's going to have

767
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: the most interaction with Josh and affect the way he plays. Yeah,

768
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: I think that is under representative on our Twitter, Pope,

769
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: But that's okay, let's hear what you say. The phone

770
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: line's open eight three fifty to three one eight eight

771
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. The relationships deep between players

772
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and their position coaches. Um Nick Nikolau was the longest

773
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach you had, like the longest tenure or

774
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: was there somebody else I think Nick Nick was the longest.

775
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: I think Charlie Joy was there at Ted Tolner, Uh yeah,

776
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Ted Toler, Yeah, there was some guys. You spend all

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Speaker 1: that time with those guys and maybe they spend even

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: more time now with their position coach. Is there a

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00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how to phrase it. Is there a

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: danger that the position coach might you spend so much

781
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: time and the meeting rooms are small. Do you become

782
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: more of a friend some times in a coach? I mean,

783
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: how do you? How do you keep that separation? I

784
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: am it's it's a strange relationship because you know, Ken

785
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Dorsey's sitting there as the quarterback coach on NFL team.

786
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Josh the starting quarterback, Josh Wheel's more power in the

787
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: organization than Ken Dorsey does. So Ken Dorsey has to

788
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: be friend Josh. He has to be in his corner.

789
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Josh has to know that he is for his best

790
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: and that's Ken's job. The quarterbacks coach job is to

791
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: make his quarterback as good as he can be. However

792
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: he does that, he's also a liaison because there's always

793
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: going to be some tension between the offensive coordinator, the

794
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: head coach, and the quarterback, particularly a quarterback who starts

795
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: to develop and get his own ideas about what he

796
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: wants to do and what he does better than a

797
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: B or C. And he has choices to make. Uh,

798
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: there begins to be some tension, productive tension between coaches

799
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: and players, and it's Ken Dorsey's job to mitigate that tension.

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Speaker 1: On behalf of Josh and on behalf of you know,

801
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Brian day Ball, and behalf of Sean McDermott's supposed you know,

802
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: he's the facilitator of that relationship on a larger sense,

803
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: but he's also there as a former quarterback and a

804
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: quarterback coach and an expert in the offense to navigate

805
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: Josh's mind and his thought process through every single snap

806
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: that he takes, practice or game. And that's a big job,

807
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: and it's a twenty four hour a day job, and

808
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: it and it bleeds outside the building. It goes outside

809
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: the building. It expands over Josh's whole life, his personal life,

810
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's personal life. They're all going to become intertwined

811
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna be that good. Close to this very day,

812
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: I still think about, you know, Nick Nikolau, the coach

813
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: I had a wide receiver, and how he affected meant

814
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: my life back then and still affects it today with

815
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: the things he taught me. Nick is deceased, Yes, and

816
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: he was probably without exaggeration, probably one of the best

817
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: coach I ever played for, without question. And he was

818
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: also one of the top four or five guys I

819
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: ever met. Um. That's how the effect he add on

820
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: me and um and you know, I loved him. This's

821
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Speaker 1: the way it was. But there was never a coach

822
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: in my entire career at any level that was more

823
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: hard on me than Nick was. And never times when

824
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: I when I cussed at him big time and and

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00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: he he didn't budge. You know, It's just the way

826
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Speaker 1: it is. Um. He you know, he brings it out

827
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Speaker 1: of here. That's that was his great It was his gift.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I tell you guys now, one of

829
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Speaker 1: my grace accomplishments was earning his respect. It was hard,

830
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Speaker 1: but that's that's kind of the fine line coach's walk.

831
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why Ken Dorsey is gonna is

832
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: a critical ingredient as to how successful Josh is going

833
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: to be this year. Well, that's our question. Which offseason

834
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Speaker 1: edition is going to benefit Josh Allen the most this

835
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: year for the Bills. Is it going to be Cole

836
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: Beasley the wide receiver, Mitch Morris the center, Ken Darcy

837
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the court coach, or somebody else. If you have a

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: thought on that, full line's open wide open eight oh

839
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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

840
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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. If you want to vote in

841
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll, go to one Bills Live and send

842
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: it a tweet and we might read it. Like now

843
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: Tony on the Twitter poll, which offseason edition will benefit

844
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most, Tony says, Ken Dorsey will help

845
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen evolve his game to elite status by helping

846
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 1: him with his pre snap reads and in game opportunities

847
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Speaker 1: based on what the defense is offering. I think there's

848
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Speaker 1: some truth to that. If you talk to the Bills

849
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot and they talk about Josh Allen what they're

850
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: looking for, and people say, well, they want them to

851
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: be more accurate, Well, they really want them to make

852
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: better and quicker decisions, which will lead to accuracy. And

853
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: that's how Ken Dorsey can help. That's the crux of

854
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's criticisms and the big overlook the you and

855
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I think the national media has given to Josh Allen.

856
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: He came out with a fifty three completion percentage, and

857
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: you and I, you and I have always have seen

858
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: him practice on and he never he doesn't strike you

859
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: as an inaccurate quarterback. But I'll say this, one of

860
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: the guys I was, one of the expert quarterback guys

861
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: that I that I go to that I know, looked

862
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: at a lot of tape of Josh coming out and

863
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: he was very high on Josh for a couple of reasons.

864
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: One of all the physical attributes that you know, the leadership,

865
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: the big arm, the athleticism, the size, everything, But he

866
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: also said this. You look at he said when they

867
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: were coming out, Baker Mayfield through a hundred quick screen

868
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: short passes behind the line of scrimmage, and for a

869
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: quarterback at Division one level in the NFL level, those

870
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent completions. You're gonna hit that ball

871
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. Baker Mayfield threw a

872
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: hundred of those. Josh Allen through less than twenty five.

873
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: He was throwing the ball down the field by design

874
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: of the offense, and by how much better he was

875
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: than anybody else on the field. He could make throws

876
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: like that in that conference, nobody else could defend, or

877
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: see or execute. So he was asked to do a

878
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: lot more in a different way than some of the

879
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in that draft, and he did a lot

880
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: of that. And we all saw last year for the Bills,

881
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Josh pushed the ball down the field. We've seen the highlights.

882
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: You've seen him, you know, stand in there and gun

883
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: the thing down. But then towards the end of the

884
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: season they started saying, listen, listens, start to try and

885
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: take some easier completions, And in a week seventeen, he

886
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: completed sixty five percent of his passes and hung forty

887
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: two points on the Dolphins. Those are the kind of

888
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: tangible improvements we've seen in Josh Allen. That's why you

889
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: and I and why say me, You and I me.

890
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: He's not an inaccurate quarterback, and his inaccuras his completion

891
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: percentage is not about him throwing scatter brains. There's scattershot throws.

892
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: It's about the decisions he makes. Stop trying to hit

893
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: the hard throw, the impossible throw, the big chunk, take

894
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: the completion, get the first down, to stay on the field,

895
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: and that brings up this Twitter poll we're having who's

896
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: going to help him do that? And from our n

897
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Bills fan Cole Beasley, he seems to always be opened

898
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: the middle for those short range throws and has sure hands.

899
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: Alan didn't have that guy last year. He'll help with

900
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: his completion percentage, help keep our offense on the field.

901
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch that chemistry grow this season. And

902
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: that speaks to exactly what we've been talking about for

903
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: months and what I've just been saying the last minute

904
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: and a half. They didn't have that guy that Josh

905
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to throw two underneath all the time, that

906
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: was his forte. Didn't have a guy that Josh knew

907
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: was going to be coming out of the slot and

908
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: be open in the ten to twelve yard or the

909
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: seven to twelve yard range. So by adding that guy

910
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: who's a proven guy, an eight or nine year veteran

911
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: like Beasley is, maybe they'll have that guy yeah, and

912
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: it will make a difference in this offense. What do

913
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: you think which offseason addition will benefit Josh Hallen the most.

914
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: We put three options up on the Twitter poll called Beasley, Ken, Dorsey,

915
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris, maybe we're missing one. Let us know what

916
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you think. Bill's chick tweets this, and I gotta go

917
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: with Mitch Morris and the old line overhaul in general,

918
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: that will help the offense to be more organized pre

919
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: snap and get Allen more time to throw in better

920
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: lanes to run it. I hope it doesn't run too much.

921
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: Hope he doesn't run as often as he did last year,

922
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: But I know they want to have that option anyway,

923
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: an option for him to run. But yeah, I can't

924
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: sit here and say the signing of the addition of

925
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse is not going to benefit Josh Allen. It is.

926
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: It is important. His veteran presence will be important to

927
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: that offensive line. Maybe the lack of pressure coming up

928
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the middle will help Josh Allen make better decisions, hang

929
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: in the pocket a little bit longer, find open receivers,

930
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: have a chance to maybe work underneath a little bit

931
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: as opposed to going deep downfield. Yeah, offensive eyeing is key,

932
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: and they've made a number of additions morest the most

933
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: prominent one, the most expensive one, by the way. But yeah,

934
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: I would say I can't disagree with it. I can't

935
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: tell you that's wrong. Well here's and this is why

936
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: this Twitter poll is Well, it's important because almost all

937
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: the stuff the Bills have done this last offseason has

938
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: been on Josh's side of the ball. The new all

939
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: these new offensive linemen, the draft picks, the running back,

940
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: the tight ends, all of these things have been pointed

941
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: towards getting Josh Allen. The free agent wide receivers, they've

942
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: all been pointed toward getting Josh Allen the help he

943
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: needs up front and on the outside and behind him.

944
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and now the Devin Singletary Lashawn McCoy hang

945
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: still in the fold where a lot of people are thinking,

946
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: you know, they were kicking him to the curb because

947
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have a good year last year on that offense,

948
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: which was crazy talk. But all of the stuff that

949
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: they've made, the most of the moves they've made have

950
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: been on Josh Allen's side of the ball. Which one

951
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: of them is gonna help him the most remains to

952
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: be seen, But man, oh man, they're all gonna have

953
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: a hand in helping him to some extent. It's all

954
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: to me, man. There's a total upgrade all the way

955
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: across the board. We like this Twitter question. I hope

956
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: you do too. Which offseason addition benefits Josh Allen the most.

957
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: We will resume talking about that in the next hour

958
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: of the show. One hour done already. It's all right.

959
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: It's good to be back, is he's It's like the

960
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: time change. He's really caught up to Gonna talk about

961
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots little bit. Next, Mike Reese covers the Patriots

962
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: for ESPN NFL Nation. He'll join us next. We'll catch

963
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: up on the Patriots draft, the Patriots free agency, and

964
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: what else going on in New England. That's coming up next.

965
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: Come on back, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

966
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio Network Sports Day.

967
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: The update from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Bill's busy

968
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: today with a couple of player moves. They've signed veteran

969
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: tight end Lee Smith to the roster a three year

970
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: contracts signed this morning. He's thirty one years old, coming

971
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: back for his second stint with the Bills. Previously played

972
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: here from two eleven through two fourteen and appeared in

973
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: fifty six games, making eighteen starts. Spent the last several years,

974
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: last four years with the Oakland Raiders, and his contract

975
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: expired not resigned by the Raiders, so the Bills signed

976
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: them today to add some veteran leadership to their tight

977
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: end room. The Bills signed four players who participated in

978
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: the team's rookie weekend mini camp, including defensive tackle Quinndarius

979
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Thaggard from Alabama Birmingham, offensive lineman Garrett McGinn of East Carolina,

980
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: tight end Moral Stevens from Florida, and safety Abraham Wallace

981
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: from West Alabama. Those released two players to make room

982
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: for that group, including tight end Jake Fisher, former Bengals

983
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: offensive lineman who came here to try to make the

984
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: full conversion to tight end, and they release running back

985
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Keith Ford. Buffalo roster now ninety one players, including their

986
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: roster exemption player running back Christian Wade. Quarterback Geno Smith's

987
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: expected to sign with the Seattle Seahawks. According to ESPN.

988
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: It'll be his fourth team in four seasons. He'll compete

989
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: with former Bronco's first round pick Paxton Lynch for the

990
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: right to back up starter Russell Wilson. Seahawks wide receiver

991
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Russell or rather Doug Baldwin indicates that he's ready to

992
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: retire Baldwin wanted they continue playing, but offseason surgeries and

993
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: the termination of his contract last week by the Seahawks

994
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: because of a failed physical, he will not be able

995
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: to He's ready to retire. Philadelphia Eagles have announced that

996
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: they have resigned veteran guard Stephen Wisnewski to a new

997
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: contract worth one and a half million dollars five hundred

998
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: thousand dollars incentives, and the Eagles sign quarterback Cody Kessler

999
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: do a contract at they released by Jacksonville last week.

1000
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: He appeared in sixteen games for the Cleveland Browns and

1001
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguarson's coming into the league in two sixteen. NBA

1002
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: news Western New York native University of Michigan coach John

1003
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: Beeline leaving U of M to accept a five year

1004
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: contract to become the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1005
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: The deal reached last night, announced today, and that's the

1006
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker.

1007
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Steve's back from vacation. We're in our one Buffalo studio.

1008
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: We've been trying to keep an eye on the rest

1009
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 1: of the AMC East over the last couple of weeks,

1010
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: and one of our favorite guests joins us right now.

1011
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: He is the beat reporter for ESPN NFL Nation, covering

1012
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. He's covered the Patriots since nineteen

1013
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven, also with the ESPN Boston dot Com. Mike

1014
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: Greece on the line, Hello, Mike, John Murphy and Steve

1015
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: Tasker in Buffalo. Thank you very much for your time today, John, Steve.

1016
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Great to be talking with you. As always. I love

1017
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: when we can talk football in mid May. Yeah, Hey,

1018
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: we do all year up here. You do too, I'm sure, Mike. Hey,

1019
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: it's another offseason workout springtime workout plan for the Patriots

1020
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: without participation or quarterback Tom Brady. It seemed like last

1021
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: year that was kind of a big deal. Nobody's paying

1022
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: much attention to it this year. Huh, Well, that's exactly right, John,

1023
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: because last year, you know, it was on the heels

1024
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: of what many thought was friction, you know, in the

1025
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: organization with Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. So his lack of

1026
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: presence at the voluntary offseason workout sort of added another

1027
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: log onto that. You know, I guess would call it

1028
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: speculation fire and then what happens, you know, he comes in,

1029
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: They start slow, but they get it together late in

1030
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: the year and they win a Super Bowl. So now

1031
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: the same situations this year, and there's no sort of

1032
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: speculation about any tension, and there's a Super Bowl championship

1033
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: that had just been one. So I think people now

1034
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: look at it differently and say, well, they'd like Tom

1035
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Brady to be there, because anytime he's around, that's a

1036
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: good thing. They probably look at last year and say, well,

1037
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: how big of a deal could it be if the

1038
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: team went on to win the Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah,

1039
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: it seems as though because does Patriots are always picking

1040
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: so late in the draft because of their success, they

1041
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: never really make any waves on draft Day. And one

1042
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: of the things that raised a few eyebrowsers the fact

1043
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: that they didn't bring in a tight end in the draft,

1044
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: or didn't have one come up at their number when

1045
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: they were able to pick, and they went back and

1046
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: brought back Ben Watson. What's the situation with their tight

1047
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: end right now? Well, it's very interesting, Steve, because I

1048
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: would say once the first two tight ends went off

1049
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: the board, t J. Hockinson and Noah Fant, and they

1050
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: went off at eight right before you guys at nine,

1051
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: was you know, was Hawkinson to the Lions, and then

1052
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: fant went twenty to the Broncos, And so those were

1053
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: the top two guys that probably would have been considerations

1054
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: for the Patriots who were picking at thirty two. Once

1055
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: they're off the board, I think that drop off from

1056
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: like those two guys to the next tight ends was

1057
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: pretty significant. So they if they were going to go

1058
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: tight end, it probably would have been late second, third round,

1059
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: and even that wouldn't have been that decisive of a

1060
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: statement at the position. So what you're looking at is

1061
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Ben Watson thirty eight years old, coming back to the Patriots.

1062
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: You have Austin Seferian Jenkins who's sort of on a

1063
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: very modest one year deal, prove it type thing. He

1064
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: could be a factor, he might not even be around.

1065
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: That could go either way. And then like a bunch

1066
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: of guys that are trying to prove themselves, so very

1067
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: unsettled picture at a position that has obviously been a

1068
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: huge strength that there is when they had Rob Gunkowski. Yeah,

1069
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: you're never gonna find no one will ever find anybody

1070
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: quite like Rob Gronkowski. But I wonder, and despite the

1071
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: players trying to replace him, how much do you think

1072
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense might change or evolve without a weapon

1073
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: like Rob Gunkowski in there a tight end. Well, and

1074
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: it's it's such a great question. I'm actually working on

1075
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: this story for tomorrow because we talked to Josh McDaniel's

1076
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, and basically what he said was exactly

1077
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: what you said. John. It's like you're not going to

1078
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: get one player to say, Okay, yeah, I got Rob

1079
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Gronkowski's role covered. We're good. Like let's keep going like

1080
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. So what they're trying to do

1081
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: is figure out all the pieces they have and then

1082
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: form their attack based on that. And there's some great

1083
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: examples over the years from you guys watching or playing

1084
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Think back to two thousand and seven

1085
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: when they had Randy Moss, they had Wes Welker, Jabbar Gaffney,

1086
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Dante Stalwars. They were a you know, eleven personnel, spread

1087
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: the field team. But then go to like two eleven

1088
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: when you had Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez and what

1089
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: were we talking about, Like that's two tight end attack,

1090
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Like they're they're going that route. Other years they've won

1091
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: with tempo, other years that you know, they've won with

1092
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: the running game. This past year. You'd say that they

1093
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: almost turned into a running attack late in the year.

1094
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: So that's how Josh McDaniels like to run the offense.

1095
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of he's got to figure out

1096
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: what he has and right now it's a little bit

1097
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: of an uncertain picture. Well, as hard as Gronkowski is

1098
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: to replace, the Patriots drafted Jared Stidham in the fourth

1099
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: round as a quarterback. You want to talk about somebody's

1100
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: going to be hard to replace. Everybody around the league

1101
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: thinks Tom Brady may be irreplaceable? How much? First of all,

1102
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: it's like a sixteen part question, how long is Tom

1103
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Brady gonna play? And is Jared Stidham going to be

1104
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the guy that replaces him? And how do they know

1105
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: if how is he going to get enough playing time

1106
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: to find out if he actually is when Tom never

1107
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: misses a snap and it goes on and on. What's

1108
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: the story with drafting Jared Stidham in the fourth round? Yeah, So,

1109
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: so Tom Brady has said he wants to play till

1110
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: he's forty five. So he's turning forty two in August

1111
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: this year, so that would give him four more seasons,

1112
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: so let's just let's just say that happens, which is

1113
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: no guarantee, but that's the plan. The way the Patriots

1114
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: are looking at it is if they can do what

1115
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: they did with Jimmy Garoppolo with Jared Stidham, like that

1116
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: would be ideal because it would almost account for those

1117
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: four years and then they could turn it over to jared' Stidham.

1118
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: But the beauty for the Patriots in this situation is,

1119
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: like Garoppolo was a late second round pick, like that

1120
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: was a significant investment. Jared Stidham's a late fourth round pick.

1121
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: So the pressure isn't the expectations and the pressure is

1122
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing because if Jared Stidham doesn't

1123
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: work out, they'll just take another stab at it in

1124
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: next year's draft or the year after. But they like him, Steve,

1125
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: and they think he's got a chance, and they're gonna

1126
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: put him. I'll call it on the Jimmy Garoppolo program,

1127
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: where just being in the room with Tom Brady, you're

1128
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: already winning, right because you're learning through that. And then

1129
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: the way Jimmy Garoppolo got his experience was in the

1130
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: off season and then in the preseason and then you

1131
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: never number when you're gonna get that opportunity in the

1132
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: regular season with injury, so they'll sort of evaluate it

1133
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: as it goes. But Jared Stidham, you're looking right now

1134
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: at a two year snapshot and then they'll have a

1135
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: better idea of what he really is and where he

1136
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: sits with them. And I'm not going to ask you

1137
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: if the Patriots are haunted by the what happened with Garoppolo.

1138
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they won the super Bowl, after all, but

1139
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: that was that a disruption at all? Do you think

1140
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: in what could have been a kind of an orderly

1141
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: chain of you know, quarterbacks, Brady right into Garoppolo. Obviously,

1142
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Garoppolo has proven that he can play and play very

1143
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: well in this league. And again I'm not saying they're haunted,

1144
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: but did they Is there regret at all about what

1145
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: went down with Garoppolo? Zero regret? And I would actually

1146
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: say positive disruption, if that makes sense, John. And here's

1147
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: here's why I would say positive disruption because I don't

1148
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: think all disruption is negative. Like if you go back

1149
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen when they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo, like Tom

1150
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: Brady was coming off two seasons in twenty twelve and

1151
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen that were still very good, but they weren't

1152
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: at his prior level. And the way I look at

1153
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: it is Jimmy Garoppolo's presence sort of lit up Tom

1154
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: Brady like almost as if to say, well, wait a minute,

1155
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: like at that point he's thirty seven, like I'm not

1156
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: giving this up, and he got that much better. So

1157
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: from the time they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo, they've won three

1158
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and they've been in four of them, and

1159
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: Tom's performance has elevated since that time. So you know,

1160
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: what they were hoping John was like they could pass

1161
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: the torch from Tom to Jimmy in three to four

1162
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: years after they drafted him. But Tom outlasted that succession plan.

1163
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: So it did create a disruption of sort, but I

1164
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: thought it was actually a positive one based on what

1165
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: resulted from it. What is Tom Brady's wide receiving corps

1166
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna look like this year? So very uncertain. You got

1167
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman right at the top, and he's the lock,

1168
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: and then you got a lot of questions. They drafted

1169
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: in the Keel Harry out of Arizona State with their

1170
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: first round pick, number thirty two overall, so the last

1171
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: pick in the rounds interesting about him. He's a big guy,

1172
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: six two and about two hundred and twenty pounds. And

1173
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: think about Patriots receivers over the years, guys like not

1174
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: many like that, right, You think more of the smaller

1175
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: shift to your guys. So those two guys, Edelman and

1176
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Harry are your top guys. And then a lot of questions.

1177
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: You got Philip dort set back maybe more of like

1178
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: a number four receiver. Does the Marius Thomas's achilles, you know,

1179
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: does that hold up? And can he give them a year?

1180
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: They just signed dontrelle Inman, and then they have a

1181
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: bunch of other guys that are going to try to

1182
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: establish themselves, but a position that is very much in flux,

1183
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: and they got to see what they have there outside

1184
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: of Edelman and their top pick to Kiel Harry. Yeah, defensively,

1185
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: what do they expect? What do they maybe hope to

1186
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: get for Michael Bennett whom they traded for were the Eagles.

1187
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: It's almost like a one for one for them for

1188
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: losing Trey Flowers in free agency to the Detroit Lions

1189
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: and Michael Bennet's obviously a little bit older than Trey Flowers.

1190
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: It's more of a shorter term deal, but it's almost

1191
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: the same type of player. He's going to be at

1192
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: the end of the line of scrimmage in their base

1193
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: defense and then in the sub packages and obvious passing situations.

1194
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: He's a player that you know, can reduce inside and

1195
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: create some issues for interior offensive lineman. They've liked him

1196
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot ever since going up against him in that

1197
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when the Patriots played the Seahawks. Tough, physical

1198
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: player and they had his brother, Martellis Bennett. So I

1199
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: think that experience probably gave them a little more comfort

1200
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: in bringing him aboard, because he's a little bit different,

1201
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, with some of the you know the you

1202
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: know the I guess I don't know how you'd say that,

1203
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think having that experience probably gave

1204
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: him more comfort and making that move. Who's going to

1205
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: call defensive plays for the Patriots? With Floras going and

1206
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: taking the head coaching job in Miami, I know he

1207
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: was mostly in name only as a coordinator. Is that

1208
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: going to spread Bill Belichick a little bit thinner than usual?

1209
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: I think so. Steve and I think that would be

1210
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: one of the concerns for the Patriots now is you know,

1211
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: they had Greg Schiano on board early this offseason to

1212
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: probably be that person who is calling the defense with

1213
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: oversight from Bill Belichick, and they've had a great relationship

1214
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: over the years, but Greg Siano ultimately decided, you know,

1215
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to go back home to Ohio and be

1216
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: with his family. So it's left them sin on defense

1217
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: and they're not going to name a coordinator as I

1218
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: understand it, and so that means Bill Belichick will sort

1219
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: of oversee the unit. And whether it's you know, Brett Dielna,

1220
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: the former Arkansas head coach who's a d line coach,

1221
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: or Gerard Mayo, the former linebacker who's back on the

1222
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff for the first year this year at the

1223
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: line as a linebackers coach, maybe he can step up.

1224
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: But they don't have someone I look at on that

1225
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: defensive staff where you could point to them and say, oh,

1226
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: that's definitely the defensive play caller, which leads me to

1227
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: believe it'll be Bill Belichick. And you probably won't be

1228
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: surprised to know, you know that Belichick's not telling us

1229
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: any of this we're just deducing that based on what

1230
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: we've what we've seen. Hey, like whoever calls defensive singles

1231
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: or and if it is battle chick especially probably get

1232
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot of use out of a third round pick

1233
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich from Michigan who seems like you could be

1234
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: like a you know, uh, what do you call the knife?

1235
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: They Swiss army knife. Right, you can do a lot

1236
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: of different things for that defense, I would think as

1237
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: an edge guy, right, definitely, over the years, think about

1238
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: players like Roosevelt, Colvin, Mike Vrabel, more recently Rob Ninkovich

1239
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: sort of like those edge guys who you know can

1240
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: help you at minimum as like a sub pass rusher,

1241
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: but then as they grow in the system with all

1242
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: the different things the Patriots like to do defensively as

1243
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: a multiple defensive team, like I look at them very

1244
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: differently than what the Bills are doing. Like and this

1245
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: might not be you know, spot on, but like when

1246
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: I see the Bills, I see a four three defense,

1247
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: and you know that that's what you're probably going to

1248
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: get as a base and then in the sub you're

1249
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: gonna see some changes. For the Patriots, they sort of

1250
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: like change what they are every week. Right, Like they

1251
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: have all these different pieces and what you see one

1252
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: week might be totally different from what you see the next.

1253
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: And so a guy like Winovich, who's got some versatility,

1254
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: who might be considered a tweener for a team like Buffalo. Wait,

1255
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: is he a defensive enda he's a little light for that?

1256
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: Is he a linebacker? Well, I don't know, you know,

1257
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: like for the Patriots, that type of fit probably is

1258
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: better for them based on what they do. What are

1259
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: the people in New England thinking about the rest of

1260
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: the division when you've got three quarterbacks who are going

1261
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: into you know, their second year in the league, all

1262
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: taken in the first round last year, Sam Donald, Josh Allen,

1263
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, all three of the rest of the division

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Speaker 1: opponents for the Patriots, are feeling these teams with pretty

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Speaker 1: inexperienced quarterbacks. Well, it's a good question, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: we know, you know, the Patriots have had sort of

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Speaker 1: this stranglehold on the division. I think I think the educated,

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Speaker 1: you know, look at it is like, let's start with Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: Like you got a clear plan right with coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean, Like you see what they're doing, and

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Speaker 1: this is like the next step in the progression, and

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Speaker 1: the roster looks deeper ultimately, Like to answer the question,

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Speaker 1: it's probably the same answer for the Bills as it

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Speaker 1: would be for the Jets and the Dolphins is like,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to the quarterback like and the development,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think the Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: be better. My question would be like, is how good

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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen? Right? And the same for the Jets

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Speaker 1: with Sam Donolds and ultimately Miami they're gonna they're in that.

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Speaker 1: I'd say they're where the Bills were maybe a year

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Speaker 1: or two ago, just trying to establish that new program

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Speaker 1: and the foundations. So you know, the view from up

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: here is like, look, these games are always tough. Team

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Speaker 1: has had to stranglehold on the division. But with the

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, if those quarterbacks become the players that the

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Speaker 1: organizations hope that it will be that the competition just

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Speaker 1: takes it up to a much higher level. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're hoping. We're here, Mike, as you can imagine after

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Speaker 1: all these years. Hey, Mike, thanks for this. It's always

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Speaker 1: great to get updates on the Patriots from you. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it definitely, and I always enjoy talking ball

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Speaker 1: with you guys and look forward to the trip out

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Speaker 1: there this year as always. Thanks. Mike Greece is the

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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation Patriots beat reporters covered that team since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. He's had a good run, Mike Yess, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's great. You know, we all know how Bills fans

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Speaker 1: feel about the Patriots are supposed to feel about the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: but they're real. I mean, those are real players. That's

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Speaker 1: a real NFL team that goes through everything that every

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Speaker 1: other team in the league does. Yeah, they might kind

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Speaker 1: of illustrates that. I get that sex. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: I think they have. And I've told you that it's

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01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: a fan base that is, you know, almost drunk with success.

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: They got a whole generation that is exactly the opposite

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins, the Bills, the Jets generations, where you know,

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Speaker 1: these are kids that are going to be crying when

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Speaker 1: they don't go to the playoffs. Yeah, let alone win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You know that this is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a different world up there, and it has been

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Speaker 1: Uh don't it's not gonna change. And I know We've

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Speaker 1: had this conversation at gazillion times where it ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: change when Tom Brady retires. It's only gonna change when

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Oh, I don't know if I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: You know you don't. So you don't think if they

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Speaker 1: put the Jared stid him in there, like next year, well,

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Speaker 1: next year, yeah, but then are gonna be years They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna That's just the point. They draft this guy

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round. He may never see the he

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Speaker 1: may never see a single snap, and it may be

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Speaker 1: some guy who's now a freshman in college that takes

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Speaker 1: over Tom Brady and they'll go eleven, and they'll go

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Speaker 1: ten and six with him in his first year, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, start going twelve. And you have evidence

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Speaker 1: for that. What the one year when Matt Castle played

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Speaker 1: there is eleven and five with Matt Castle a while ago.

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Speaker 1: With I think a much stronger roster than what they

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Speaker 1: have now. Other than quarterback, Brady's the key. You think

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Speaker 1: Belichick's the key. I think Belichick's the key. Belichick is

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Speaker 1: the best in the game. It has been for a

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Speaker 1: decade or more. That's but it's a big difference. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too that they, yeah, Belichick is

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Speaker 1: the key. I don't know he is. Uh. He runs

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Speaker 1: a program like nobody else, and I and I think

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Speaker 1: they are gonna have a plan in place well before.

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Speaker 1: Nobody drafts more quarterbacks than the Patriots. They draft guys

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Speaker 1: all they draft a guy at least every other year

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Speaker 1: because they got a forty year old quarterback, they have

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Speaker 1: to be looking. They've been doing that since since well,

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: like what for six seven years Garoppol Think about Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: they had him four years before that, they had Jordan Poyer,

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Speaker 1: not Jordan Poyer, Umoyer, Brian Horrier before that, they had

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Speaker 1: all these guys run through there, uh, trying to find

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Speaker 1: the next guy to make sure they've got a guy

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Speaker 1: that they can win with back. And look at these drafts.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you they draft now at a lot of

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01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,959
Speaker 1: these guys didn't make it, you know, no question because

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01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: who you know they're gonna take his job. But they

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Speaker 1: draft a lot of a lot of quarterbacks. Seems to

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Speaker 1: me they do. And I've always said that when you

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Speaker 1: draft a lot of guys at that same position, you

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: get really good at a valuating it. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the numbers bear that out, if they've

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Speaker 1: chosen more quarterbacks. Obviously not first round quarterback. I'm not

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna go on a line. Limon,

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Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna do you already went out on

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Speaker 1: the line. I'm not gonna die on that beach. But

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Speaker 1: but I will make that statement. They take a lot

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. To me, they take one more regularly in

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Speaker 1: the draft than other teams. And maybe it's because I

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: watched them so much, but they draft consistent. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe not as many as Cleveland the right, but that's

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Speaker 1: a different story, right I'm asked for. That's a different

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Speaker 1: animal you're talking about. In the past fifteen years, we

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Speaker 1: looked at it. Let's get our crack, let's get our

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Speaker 1: research research staff on that. You're John freaking Murphy. You

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01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: don't have to look that stuff up. Have your staff

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: do that staff look at us. Here it is doing

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Speaker 1: the Patriots off time draft history. I found it. I'll

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Speaker 1: look it up during the break. Hey, we got a

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Speaker 1: pretty good Twitter pole question out there. We need your response.

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Speaker 1: Which offseason edition will benefit Josh Allen the most? What

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Speaker 1: do you think is it? And the Twitter pole? We

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: offer you a couple of suggestions. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: take our suggestions. I hope I'm writing on the Twitter pole.

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Speaker 1: You could vote, yeah, bitch, Morrise the Center, the Free

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: Agent Center. You can vote for Colevis. You could vote

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Speaker 1: for Ken Dorsey, the quarterback coach, or somebody else. Give

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Speaker 1: us a call to discuss phone lines open eighth three

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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

1380
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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Send it a tweet. We might read

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Speaker 1: a Darryl f twenty nine tweets this and Morris, of course,

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: a veteran center that can make line calls and let

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen focus on the coverage is huge. I believe

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan mentioned the impact that adding Alex Mack to

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Speaker 1: the falcon's head on his play. I would expect the

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Speaker 1: same uptick for Josh with Morrise. That's a really good response.

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Speaker 1: That's true, really good response. Yep. And this from the

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Speaker 1: iconic Daniel Boone. The line is much improved. But my

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Speaker 1: money is on Knox. If you watch his game tape,

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01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: this kid is a future star awareness separation of dog knocks,

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01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: good hands. Yes, the chemistry they can build could be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well that yeah, I mean that's a that's a big

1393
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: statement and that you know to talk about bold predictions.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Boone made one there about Dawson Knox the tight end.

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Speaker 1: If he's all of that, Yeah, there's gonna be one

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: reason though. It's because Josh Allen develops into a really

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Speaker 1: good quarterback. Dawson Knox is not gonna make Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback. Josh Allen may make Dawson Knox a

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Speaker 1: great tight end. You know that's my philosophy. There you go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the way I feel about it. The

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Speaker 1: quarterback makes the makes the guy who catches the ball,

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 1: not the other way around. We'll talk more about that

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Speaker 1: when we come back from the break. Come on back

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Speaker 1: with us. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. I'm John Murphy's Steaven Tasker is back.

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Speaker 1: Have it to have him? Have it? Have you? Thanks

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: for tuning in, listening or watching or both. We got

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: an interesting show coming up here. Thanks to Mike Greaves

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: for joining. Let's hope to get Lee Smith once the

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Speaker 1: meeting time breaks up. I think they have NFLPA meetings today. Steve,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look not just because I'm happy you're back.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you a credit mostly because I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you're back. But Patriots, this seems like a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: So since Brady was drafted sixth round in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: eighteen years, eighteen drafts anyway, by my count, so this

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Speaker 1: is O one till last year, the Patriots have drafted

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Speaker 1: ten ten out of eighteen drafts, they've drafted ten quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: none higher than a third Jacoby Bursett third round pick

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Speaker 1: out of NC State twenty sixteen, Kevin O'Connell third round

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Speaker 1: pick out of San Diego State in OH eight, A

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Speaker 1: lot of seventh rounders, a couple of six rounders, one

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Speaker 1: fourth rounder. Let go Rohan Davy remember him? LSU fourth

1424
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: round pick? Nobody remembers him. Cliff Kingsbury sixth round pick.

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Speaker 1: He was a Patriots draft pick. Now, of course the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals coach Matt Castle, Zach Robinson, Ryan Mallett from Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was. That was twenty eleven. Let

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Speaker 1: me double check and see what round he was in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was an early rounder, Ryan Mallett.

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Speaker 1: Some people thought he was going to be the guy.

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01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett was third round another third round, ye, Garoppolo. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: here's one that the name didn't even register with me

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and you you we looked it up.

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01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: Patriots draft picks on quarterbacks twenty and eighteen. The immortal

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Speaker 1: Danny Etling from LSU, the seventh round pick. So I

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Speaker 1: went over and looked at I've got in front of me. Now,

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01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks the Browns picked? Yes? From nineteen ninety nine?

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Speaker 1: You said, how many times did they picked ten quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Ten out of eighteen years the Browns picked? I'm I

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Speaker 1: think I counted right. From nineteen ninety nine, which is

1441
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: when they took Tim Couch right, Uh, wasn't he first overall? Even? Yeah?

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: Hold on, I was I went too far. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: He was first overall? Couch. Then they took Spurgeon Win, Oh, yes,

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01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Luke McCown, Charlie Fry, Brady Quinn, Colton McCoy, Brandon Whedon,

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, and Baker Mayfield eleven.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe, Um, so you're right, I'll give you credit.

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: That's Patriots to do draft quarterback. They draft him all

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Speaker 1: the time. But you know, like you said, they draft

1449
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: him late and they take a flyer on him because

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: it's the most important position, right, And if you find

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: a guy like Garoppolo, he was a late second. But still, yeah,

1452
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Speaker 1: that's right. Let's face it. Maybe once you get the

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time in the sixth round, you

1454
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: figured that's all you need. Right, Well, why are we

1455
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: reaching here? Right? Quarterback, kickers, putters and quarterbacks will get

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Speaker 1: them in the late rounds. That's the way they put

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Speaker 1: it together. And I it's my under thought too. But

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Speaker 1: and here's the thing too, Browns, all those guys the

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Speaker 1: Browns drafted, those are different coaching staff every time. Yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no chances this coaching staff never changes. And like my

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: point was it, they get really good at knowing what

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01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: they can coach on a guy, what a guy needs

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: to have, what he has to have that they can't coach,

1464
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: where the guy can get better, what they can do,

1465
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: how much they can help him improve, all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: What they can coach into a guy, and what they

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: can coach out of a guy, and what they have

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 1: no control over. And they get really good at evaluating

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: that stuff. And if they find the right guy with

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: the right ingredients and they can coach up the rest

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01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: of it. You know, those are the guys they keep

1472
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: doctor Garoppolo's Enflet's face it, all those guys they found.

1473
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: Garoppolo basically is the one we're talking about. Did you

1474
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: But we're talking about Patriots a little bit because of

1475
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: our last guest, Mike Greece from ESPN NFL Boston Nation,

1476
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: covering the Patriots. Did you buy? His response when I

1477
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: asked about it, and I don't expect there'd be regret

1478
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: too much about Garoppolo again. They want a Super Bowl,

1479
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: but he said it was a positive development that Garoppolo's

1480
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: arrived will kind of kick Tom Brady into an extra

1481
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: late career gear that he may not have been kicked

1482
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: into it. I don't know if I'm buying there. I'll

1483
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: due respect to Mike Reeese, I don't know if I'm

1484
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: buying it. I think Brady would have been great even

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: without the threat I guess of Garoppolo a couple of

1486
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: years ago. What do you think? Yeah, it's hard to argue,

1487
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: but it's just as hard to buy. It's just like

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: he said, I mean, it's hard to argue it because

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: they did they want a world Championship. I don't know

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01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: how good they would have been with Garoppolo. They might

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: have been better, It might have been different. I'm sure

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: they would have been different. Garoppolo is a really good player,

1493
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: and he's young, and you and I both we've been

1494
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: watching Tom Brady for two decades now. He's not the

1495
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: same guy. His arm is not what it was. His

1496
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: accuracies there as leaderships, there is institutional knowledge about what

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: they do in New England, is there. He doesn't have

1498
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: to show up for the offseason workouts. You know, he

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: doesn't show up, and there's all his tension. They go,

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: it's coming apart, and they win the World Championships, So

1501
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: shut up and sit down with all of that. Right,

1502
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: he's not the same quarterback that I mean, you can't win.

1503
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: We saw we saw Peyton Manning win a Super Bowl.

1504
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: He couldn't throw the ball twenty yards and they won

1505
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Now he only played in what nine

1506
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: of the games that season plus the playoffs. But nevertheless, Garoppolo,

1507
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: you kind of flip the coin. And I've made the

1508
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: assertion here I think that they were willing to make

1509
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 1: the move and trade Tom Brady to the San Francisco

1510
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers let him go back home and play

1511
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: in the West Coast, in his hometown where he grew up.

1512
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: They were going to do that, and because they knew

1513
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: what they had in Garoppolo. Belichick knew and he's the

1514
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: kind of you know that cold hearted oh yeah, assassin,

1515
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: He would have made that move. Yes, And I think

1516
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft stepped in and said, you are not trading

1517
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: my son. Yeah, yeah, basically right, which is why I

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01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: asked the question of Mike Reese. Was there any regret,

1519
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: any you know, feeling like we missed out, we missed

1520
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: a great opportunity there? He says no. In fact, he

1521
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: said it worked to their benefit. As you said, that's

1522
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: hard to argue with talking about the Patriots, talking about

1523
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: the bills, and wondering which officsly in addition, you think

1524
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: will benefit Josh Ellen. The most phone lines open at

1525
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty and toll free one

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. John and Gowanda,

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, John, Welcome to the show. You're on the

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01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: air with this, Hey, guys, Stave, I gotta argue with

1529
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: you on this one. I am firmly in the camp

1530
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: of it is much more Brady than Valichick. And this

1531
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 1: is why Valichick's record as a head coach in one

1532
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: hundred games before Tom Brady ever was his quarterback was

1533
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: forty three and fifty seven. And people talk about the

1534
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight season, but that was one of

1535
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: the all time easiest divisional schedules where the one in

1536
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: fifteen Dolphins also finished eleven and five with Pennington who

1537
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: had a shoulder that was stitched together, with jarn and

1538
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: two running backs and that was it. And even the

1539
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: Jets finished nine and seven that year. So it's Brady.

1540
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: He's had nine Super Bowls in which he had taken

1541
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: his team to the lead in the fourth quarter in

1542
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: the fall, nine of them. And I'm a Bills fan,

1543
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: but it's Brady, not Belichicking. I don't know. I disagree.

1544
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. I mean, I hear what

1545
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: you're saying, But how can you say the two teams

1546
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: in the division that we're both winning teams made it

1547
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: easier on the Patriots. I don't get that in analogy?

1548
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I'm not saying that. What I'm

1549
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: saying is people always go to where Matt Castle was

1550
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: eleven and five, and they didn't have Brady, Well, they

1551
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't win, they didn't get in the playoffs. In the

1552
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: only two years in Brady's career they didn't get in

1553
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs were the two years he didn't play his

1554
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,440
Speaker 1: rookie year in the hear he was hurt and Belichick

1555
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: should have won that division if he was so great.

1556
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: He could not be. The Dolphins were one and fifteen

1557
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: the year before. Come on, well the year before, what

1558
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: were they the year they played him? Nine to seven? Yeah,

1559
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I have a heart. I

1560
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, I know, I'm not saying Tom

1561
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: Brady isn't a big reason why they're successful. He is.

1562
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm telling you this and don't And

1563
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't buy that thing about how Bill Belichick was

1564
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: a bad coach, head coach um before he got Tom Brady.

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01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. He was in Cleveland, and let

1566
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: me tell you something, as a guy who played against

1567
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: his teams in Cleveland, they were scary and when it

1568
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,959
Speaker 1: went south in Cleveland, had nothing to do with Bill Belichick,

1569
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: but he was the head coach when they were gonna

1570
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: move to Baltimore. The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and

1571
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick had to coach his team the second half

1572
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: of the season. They went oh and eight after that announcement.

1573
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: They announced it but before the season was over, and

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: then fired him because he couldn't win a game after

1575
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: they announced that. That's crazy. You're seeing these good coach

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: because they went on eight. I'm saying he's a good

1577
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: coach despite the fact they went oh and eight when

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01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: he had an owner that announced. By the way, we're

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: moving after this season, the Cleveland the Cleveland Browns are

1580
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: moving to Baltimore. Go ahead and coach this team now

1581
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. I mean, you're you're

1582
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: giving him credit for that. I'm saying there's a good

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: reason why they didn't. We're not looking for excuses. You're

1584
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: not giving You're making an argument that he is a

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: great coach. I think he has a great coach too.

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01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: He's the best coach ever. He's among them. Yeah, he's

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: among the best coaches ever. He's the best. He's the

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01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: best head coach ever. You can say one of I'm

1589
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: saying the best. What do you think, John? No? No, oh,

1590
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: come on, go ahead, you name somebody better. Bill parselves

1591
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: all day long. Bill Parselves took a Jets team that

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: was terrible to the AC Championship. He took a New

1593
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: England team that was mediocre to the Super Bowl. He

1594
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: took a Cowboys team that fell on hard times took

1595
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: him to the playoffs. He took a Giants team that

1596
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: was mediocre and won two Super bowl Let me ask

1597
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: you this, John, I'm gonna give you some homework. Can

1598
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: the call back find out what Bill Parcel's head coaching career,

1599
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: what his record was without Bill Belichick is a defensive coordinator.

1600
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: You check that out and then get back to me.

1601
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,440
Speaker 1: How many of those years was he not a defensive coordinator?

1602
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: All the ones he was a losing coaching When they

1603
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: made the announcement for Cleveland, I'll give you that eight games.

1604
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: So instead of forty three and fifty seven, he's forty

1605
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: three and forty nine. Wow, Hall of Hey, John and Gwanda,

1606
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 1: you're not saying I don't think you're saying that Belichick

1607
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: is not a good coach, right, You're saying he's okay,

1608
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Absolutely not, he's very he's excellent. Yeah.

1609
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is that Brady has made

1610
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: all the difference in the world. There's a funcy guy.

1611
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Are coaches that Brady would have put them in the

1612
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: sixty winning percentage for their career? Come on, I agree

1613
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: with you, John, Yeah, thanks, now listen, I listen. I

1614
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: agree to you. We can argue all day about which

1615
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: one had more to do with it than the other.

1616
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is as an absolute. Uh. The conversation for

1617
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: the best quarterback of all times starts with Tom. You

1618
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: can make a case for other guys, no question about it,

1619
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 1: and it's a pretty good conversation to have, but he

1620
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: starts it. Uh. And the same thing if you're talking

1621
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: about head coaches and who's been the most successful and

1622
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: the most sustained head coaching success, Uh, it starts with Bill.

1623
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 1: So you can go around and Bill Parcels is a

1624
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: great coach, There's absolutely no question about it. I love

1625
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: the guy I played with a ton. Uh. There's other

1626
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: guys out there, the guys swear by love inform and

1627
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: they were highly successful. You know Joe Gibbs who went

1628
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: to won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks. All

1629
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: these guys have great resumes, and there's a bunch of

1630
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: guys out there who would be have a mutual respect society.

1631
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: All those guys think the other guys are really good too, so,

1632
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: but I think when you come down to it, you

1633
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: gotta make It's an interesting conversation. Does the quarterback have

1634
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: more to do with it than the head coach does?

1635
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any possible way he can. And

1636
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,520
Speaker 1: there's no question there's great head coaches and great quarterbacks,

1637
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: and great quarterbacks make a difference. But when you're talking

1638
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: about a fifty three man roster and you've got about

1639
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: a million moving parts inside the building and the quarterbacks

1640
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: just one of them, I think the coach gets the

1641
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: benefit of that. Doubt. I disagree, But we've talking about

1642
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: this with a lot of little Patriots talk today. We

1643
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: can also talk about the who may never get a

1644
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: chance to see though, What do you mean they're gonna

1645
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna walk off of the sunset together good holding hand?

1646
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: In four seasons. It sounds like, well, Chuck will be seventy,

1647
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: Brady will be forty five. Oh my goodness, which offseason

1648
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: edition Josh Allen benefit the most from. We'll discuss that.

1649
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Give us a call on that or the Patriot If

1650
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: we're want to talk about that, we're gonna take a break,

1651
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna come back with more One Bills Live from One

1652
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. I'm gones

1653
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: live from One Bill's Drive. Although we taken a bit

1654
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: of a Patriots turn over the last few minutes thanks

1655
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: to Mike Grease, our guest from ESPN NFL Nation in Boston.

1656
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,839
Speaker 1: That's okay, talk about the Bills. Which offseason edition benefits

1657
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most? What do you think? Give us

1658
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: a call eighth three fifty and tool free one eight

1659
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty to debate who's responsible

1660
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: for the patriots incredible success? The coach of the quarterback?

1661
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: You can talk about that to Gary on the line

1662
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: from Syracuse. Hello Gary, go ahead, Yeah, Hey, hi guys.

1663
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring up to the caller John

1664
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: that the only time Bill parcel has ever made it

1665
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl is when Bill Belichick was a

1666
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Parcels went to the Patriots, Jets, and I

1667
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: believe the Dolphins. He was pretty unsuccessful. If you're looking

1668
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: for another great coach other than Bill Parcels, talk about

1669
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: guys like Tom Landry Chuck Noll. You know, Landry changed

1670
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: the game he stayed with the shotgun with a lot

1671
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,919
Speaker 1: of teams weren't even doing it for years. But Belichick,

1672
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: I believe, has been to eleven Super Bowls total, and

1673
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: I think nine with the Patriots. I'm not saying, you know,

1674
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 1: he's a great he's a great coach. Can't take it

1675
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: away from him, but Brady is responsible for a lot

1676
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: of the winning there in New England. How much would it,

1677
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: how much successful would would Belichick have been without Brady?

1678
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Impossible to answer. Let me just jump in here, Gary

1679
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: and we'll get you. No, it is. It's impossible to answer,

1680
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: but it is. He wouldn't have won six without Brady.

1681
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind about that. He wouldn't

1682
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: have gone to nine or at least what seven without Brady?

1683
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Right with the Patriot it's without you know, he just

1684
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. You just would not have. What do you think, Gary, Syracuse?

1685
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: I really believe that the Belichick has an awful lot

1686
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: to do with it. Brady can't take anything away from him.

1687
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Greatest quarterback of all time. Um, but Belichick is still

1688
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: gonna win with without Brady. But he's definitely not going

1689
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 1: to be as successful with Jimmy Garoppolo. Let's say instead

1690
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady, you're going to be successful with Brady

1691
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: bottom line. I agree. Thanks. Let's go to Zach in Rochester. Hello, Zach,

1692
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: you're on the air, gentlemen, how are you doing good? Good?

1693
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Thank you man. Let me tell you something. I love

1694
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I love them. I hate Belichick, Um

1695
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: and um. This guy is an idiot. I mean, Belichick

1696
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: helped kill our Super Bowl gi super Bowl dreams with

1697
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: the Giants. Then, like the guy said before the three

1698
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, the Giants went too with parcels. Was Belocheck's defense.

1699
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: They went and all that crap the jet somebody cares.

1700
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: But once he got to New England, he is responsible

1701
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, he had to

1702
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: make decisions to put players there that were what you

1703
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: would say quality players. And I want to say this

1704
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: about the Cleveland thing. There's a thing on the NFL

1705
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: network called Cleveland ninety five. That's where you'll see all

1706
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: hell broke loose that one. That team they were like

1707
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: six and two or five and three. I think when

1708
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 1: they announced it they were going to be moving to Baltimore.

1709
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: And Model had said he moved to Baltimore and didn't

1710
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: call them to make the announcement, so all hell broke loose. Yeah,

1711
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: people around there was losing their minds. And it's like

1712
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: how we were when we thinking that before mister Wilson

1713
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: passed away. The team was me and so how how

1714
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: would you think we will act the Buffalo is leaving.

1715
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: I've seen that documentary. You ever see that. It's good

1716
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: And there's great coaches on that staff too, right, Zack,

1717
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: there's um Nick Saban's on that staff. I believe there's. Yeah,

1718
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Nick Saban was on that staff. They had it going

1719
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: on in Cleveland with Bill Belichick. You can say what

1720
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: you want. There's last eight game. And it took him

1721
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years, just like it was gonna take him.

1722
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: It took him in New England to kind of get

1723
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: it rolling. You know, he got the job winning ninety eight,

1724
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: ninety nine something like that. Or and then he had

1725
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: he had Drew Brees. They just they signed Drew Brees

1726
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: to one hundred and ten million dollar contract. And then

1727
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the next day, two days later, Breeze goes down with

1728
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: that punctured lung and Tom Brady comes in and then

1729
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: and and it just and it took off from there.

1730
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: They go to the Super Bowl and win it, and

1731
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: then it's Tom Brady's team from that moment on. But

1732
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: it took him. It took him a couple of years

1733
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: to get it up and rolling like he wanted it.

1734
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: And plus you can say what you want. Nobody in

1735
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: the league with outside of Tom Brady and Gronkowski, Randy

1736
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: moss Um, Rodney Harrison, and I'm trying to read what

1737
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: what guys do they have on those teams that were

1738
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: all stalwarts. You know, the one year they did win

1739
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago. The last one they

1740
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: won was when they had Durrell Reevas at corner. You know,

1741
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: they brought him in. Every name you just mentioned as

1742
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, yeah, potential Hall of famers. So

1743
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: for you to say other than these guys, well, those

1744
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 1: guys are Hall of famers. And they were all on

1745
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: different teams though, and they were surrounded that they were

1746
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: like one guy on the team, right. They didn't play

1747
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: like the Bills here they had five Hall of famers

1748
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 1: play like five or six years together. Yeah, that's different.

1749
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Billichick's got you know, Wes Welker and you know Julian Edelman,

1750
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: and Danny woodhead guys who other teams would not even

1751
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: have on their squad. You know, I mean it's it's

1752
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: a weird dynamic when you talk about how New England

1753
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: puts their roster together in an interesting debate. Yeah no,

1754
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: not there any longer. Interesting debate here will continue in

1755
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: an hour number three. You're welcome to join this so

1756
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: you can talk about the bills in which offseason editions

1757
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: benefit John Shandon the most, or this Patriots thing? Is

1758
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: it Brady? Is it Belichick? What do you think? We'll

1759
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: take more phone calls an hour number three, eight three

1760
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 1: fifty in toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

1761
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Hey, want to remind you it's coming

1762
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: up this Saturday. Steve and I will be there, and

1763
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Frank k will be there too, The head coach of

1764
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts coming to town for his eighteenth annual

1765
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Call the Courage Awards breakfast this Saturday. Sells some tickets available.

1766
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, the quarterback with the Bengal, is going to

1767
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: be the Call to Courage Award winner this year. They

1768
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: will honor a local high school athlete. Sean McDermott will

1769
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: be there a little NFL State of the NFL panel

1770
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: discussion we'll have with some great media members including Steve.

1771
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: The Call to Courage Awards Breakfast coming up this Saturday

1772
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: at the Highatt Hotel downtown Buffalo. If you need more information,

1773
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: called five five nine eighteen hundred five five nine one

1774
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: eight zero zero and we'll see you there on Saturday.

1775
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back for our number three. It's

1776
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello,

1777
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network. Story stage update from One Bill Drive.

1778
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: The Bills added tight end Lee Smith to the roster today.

1779
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: They had him in for a couple of days and

1780
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. After drafting two two tight ends,

1781
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: they add another one. Lee Smith signed a three year

1782
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: contract today. He's thirty one years old. It's his second

1783
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: go round with a Buffalo Bills. Played for the Bills

1784
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: from twenty eleven through twenty fourteen, fifty six games, eighteen starts,

1785
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty catches, three touchdowns over that span. He spent the

1786
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: last four seasons with the Oakland Raiders. Smith's a good

1787
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: blocker and a good leader. The Bills are looking for

1788
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: leadership in the tight end room and they may have

1789
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: It with Lee. Smith signed to a contract today. He'll

1790
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: be on the show with us tomorrow at two pm.

1791
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Bill signed four players who just came through the team's

1792
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp, four players who were here on a weekend tryout,

1793
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 1: and they're added to the roster, including defensive tackle Quindarius

1794
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: Staggard from Alabama Birmingham, offensive lineman Garrett McGinn from East Carolina,

1795
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: tight end Moral Stevens from Florida, and safety Abraham Wallace

1796
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: from West Alabama. To make room, two players released by

1797
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: the Bills, including running back Keith Ford who got some

1798
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: playing last year, and tight end Jake Fisher who signed

1799
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: with the Bills as a free agent trying to make

1800
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: the transition from offensive line to tight end. He's been released,

1801
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: so the Buffalo roster now is full ninety one players,

1802
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: and that includes the one roster exemption running back Christian

1803
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Way Around the NFL, quarterback Geno Smith is expected to

1804
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: sign with the Seattle Seahawks. It'll be his fourth team

1805
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: in four seasons. He'll compete for the backup job with

1806
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: former Bronco's first round pick Paxton Lynch, trying to back

1807
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 1: up Russell Wilson and former Seattle receiver Doug Baldwin posted

1808
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: a long series of tweech yesterday indicating that he is retiring.

1809
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: His contract was terminated last week by Seattle because of

1810
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: a failed physical. The Eagles announce safe signed veteran guard

1811
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: Stephan Weisnewski to a new contract, a one year deal

1812
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: worth one and a half million dollars. And the Eagles

1813
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 1: today announced that they have signed quarterback Cody Kessler, released

1814
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: by Jacksonville last week. He appeared in sixteen games for

1815
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: Cleveland and Jacksonville since joining the league in two sixteen.

1816
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: In University of Michigan basketball coach John Beeleon has agreed

1817
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: to a five year contract to become the new head

1818
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: coach of the NBA's Cleveland Cavaliers. That's the update from

1819
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasier coming to you.

1820
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: Steve's back from vacation. How does it feel two hours in?

1821
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: You need a break? No, it feels good. You need

1822
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: more vacation. I'll take it. I'm not offering, Okay, all right, energy.

1823
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: I can tell the brownie's great too, by the way,

1824
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, in a week he's got all those rookies

1825
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: in and kind of some unknown guys. Brownie is on it. Yeah,

1826
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: solid for us last week. He's got to feel like

1827
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: that because you get into a routine, you know, in

1828
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: your work day, and brown has had to throw a

1829
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: wrench into Brownie's week big time. Yeah right, because he's

1830
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: It's not like he doesn't have to do his other

1831
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: stuff either, you know, putting out all that content he

1832
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: puts out on the website. Whatever it is. Kind of

1833
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: feel bad for him. Don't feel bad for him. He's good. Hey,

1834
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: we got a couple of topics working today. Lee Smith

1835
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: is going to join us tomorrow at two. Just signed today.

1836
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: Obviously he's got stuff to do. Probably got to fill

1837
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: out his i RS forms and stuff today. Right, what

1838
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: do you do when you sign a contract? You gotta

1839
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know. I can't remember Lee smithibly

1840
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow too. We look forward to does he

1841
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: take that long? He's back. Lee Smith is back and

1842
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 1: we're happy to him on the show tomorrow. So our

1843
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: Twitter topic today, let's reacquaint you with that. I think

1844
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: it's a good one. I came up with it today,

1845
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I was still on vacation. I could edition

1846
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: contribute which offseason edition that the Bills have made will

1847
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: benefit Josh Allen the most? What do you think? Give

1848
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: us a call and we'll discuss eight three h five

1849
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

1850
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We got twenty eight hundred

1851
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: votes on our Twitter pole. That's a lot and sixty

1852
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: percent of the respondent say the offseason edition that benefits

1853
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most is center Mitch Morse. Thirty percent

1854
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: say it's wide receiver Cole Beasley, only six percent say

1855
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: quarterback Ken Dorsey, four percent say somebody else. What do

1856
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you think? Give us a call sending a tweet, we

1857
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: may read it on the air. We'd love to hear

1858
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: your voice on the air. Eight O three oh five

1859
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

1860
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: two five fifty. A surprise secondary topic today, we had

1861
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: Mike Greece from ESPN NFL Nation in Boston on the

1862
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: show and Steve gun into an Actually Mike Grease was gone,

1863
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: and Steve said, Belichick is the reason the Patriots are

1864
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: so successful. I disagreed, and people are taking sides, all right,

1865
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: but continuing down that road, Yeah, I don't have a

1866
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 1: problem having my opinion, I can defend it, and I

1867
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: because it's easy to defend the guy's gotten that team

1868
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: to nine super Bowls because both those guys are really

1869
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: really good too. So it's a fun discussion to have

1870
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: as to what will happen. What would happen if one

1871
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: or the other of them were not there? That's that's

1872
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: the interesting question, and it's one we'll have to wait

1873
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: entirely too long to find out. Yeah, right, we had

1874
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Mike Greason. He just said, he said, Hey, Tom Brady

1875
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: contends that he still wants to play untill he's forty

1876
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: five years old. Why would he think about quitting now?

1877
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: He just won the Super Bowl, But that means it's

1878
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: four more seasons, four more full NFL seasons. That kind

1879
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: of stinks for the rest of it. I have a

1880
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 1: hard time believe in that. But I have a hard

1881
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: time believing he's still playing now. A couple of tweets

1882
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: on this issue. Steve not on the tweet sheet, but

1883
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Derek Hankson says, Steve, you're wrong. Brady is why the

1884
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Patriots is so good. Belichick is a great coach, but

1885
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: you need a quarterback. On the other hand, Nicholas Romano

1886
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: says Steve is right on. The Patriots can constantly draft quarterbacks,

1887
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: seemed to trade them away for picks and players Mallett, Hoyer, Brissette,

1888
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Garoppolo all off the top of my head, because you did.

1889
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: We pointed it out. Ten of the last eighteen years

1890
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: they've drafted a quarterback, and Dean Mandel tweets in Belichick

1891
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: is the best coach in the modern era, no argument,

1892
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: no discussion, one of the best, if not the best,

1893
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: of all time. He holds numerous coaching records, include winning

1894
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: a record six Super Bowls, not to mention the ones

1895
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: with the Giants. Look, I'm not disputing that. I agree

1896
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: Belichick is the best coach of the modern era. There's

1897
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 1: no question about that. See the reason why they Patriots

1898
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: have been so successful, he's one of them. But I

1899
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: think Brady is more important. That's my position, just because

1900
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,879
Speaker 1: we've seen here too. I mean, we've seen how difficult

1901
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: it is to find a guy like Tom Brady. I mean,

1902
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: nobody's ever found one before or since he was a

1903
01:35:54,400 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. I tend to think, you know, it's

1904
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: easy enough to you know, he can go back and

1905
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: look at all the times where Bill Belichick has done

1906
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: things or the and the kind of program that New

1907
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: England runs, and we've seen it here in Buffalo all

1908
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: too often. That is a different animal in New England

1909
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: because Bill Pelichick runs that organization differently their offense, and

1910
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: Mike Reas said it in our interview today. You can

1911
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: go back and listen to it on the website. He

1912
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: went on and on and said, listen, they won last year.

1913
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: They were a running football team, mostly because Tom couldn't

1914
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 1: throw it like he could throw it once and plus

1915
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 1: they were working with kind of a hodgepodge of wide receivers.

1916
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: Edelman was the one dependable guy they had. Hogan was

1917
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: a guy, but you know, we know Hogan's a guy,

1918
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: but he's a guy. He's not Randy Moss. They tried

1919
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: to get Josh Gordon in the mix and he started

1920
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: to pay dividends, but then he I believe he got

1921
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: hurt at the end of the year and didn't finish

1922
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: and then and then got suspended or and now he's

1923
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of semi retired. Now you know, he's facing discipline

1924
01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:00,839
Speaker 1: from the league. That kind of thing. They drafted nikkil

1925
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: Harry this year that they've got a lot of question marks.

1926
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: But the way they run their show in New England,

1927
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: they can run it one week, throw it the next week.

1928
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: They can play defense one week, they can use their

1929
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: pass rush, one week, they can use their coverage the

1930
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: next week. They win every different kind of way possible

1931
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: that a team can win. They change their identity week

1932
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: to week like nobody else in football ever has before

1933
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: or since. They just do it that way. And that

1934
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: is a program installed by that guy Bill. Certainly, it's

1935
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 1: executed on the offensive side of the ball to a

1936
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 1: t by maybe the greatest quarterback of all time, no question.

1937
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: But Bill Belichick is also responsible for the great games

1938
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: that defensive has had. He's responsible for putting together the

1939
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: staff that implements all this stuff, for bringing it all

1940
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: together under one roof. I just think that's a bigger

1941
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 1: and more important job than the quarterback. Let's take a

1942
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: few calls on this. Carl calling from Connecticut. Hello Carl,

1943
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Hey guy, thanks for having me.

1944
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Um So, I mean, obviously knowing it as the Crystal Ball, right,

1945
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm just gonna have to say I

1946
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: think Belichick I'm a creative director, Okay, And you know

1947
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: there's a saying that we say in the creative space,

1948
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: you're only as good as the people around you. And

1949
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick got Brady, um, you know, and who

1950
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: knew he'd get the best. I hate to say this

1951
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: because I'm a real Bills fan. He'd get probably the

1952
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever. It's not one of the top three.

1953
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's huge. In the sixth round. Yeah,

1954
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 1: on top of it? So who knows? So who gets

1955
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: credit for that? Does Tom Brady get credit for being

1956
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: picked in the sixth round? Or does Bill Belichick get

1957
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: credit for having that guy on his roster? You don't

1958
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: get much credit for waiting until the sixth round to

1959
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 1: choose the best quarterback of all time. Didn't have to

1960
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: take him in the first A legitimate question, but you know,

1961
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's the sixth round, like all the other

1962
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you know, picked some you know, late in the draft.

1963
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, who knew it? That's all I'm getting at.

1964
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: It's that's called luck. Let's call it what it is.

1965
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 1: That's luck to get that guy. Was it luck that

1966
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: he traded this starting quarterback with one hundred and ten

1967
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: million dollars contract, highest paid quarterback in the league. To

1968
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: a division rival and then and then beat his brains

1969
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: in for the remainder of his career. It was a

1970
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: trade Bills needed help. I mean, it's just I don't know.

1971
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: It's just an observation, that's all. However, how we got

1972
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: him who knew he was gonna be who he is,

1973
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: That's all I'm getting at the other thing I wanted

1974
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Just there's like two other points, and I know you

1975
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: guys are busy, so I'll trying to keep it shut.

1976
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: Is um the you know, the Bills, the one thing,

1977
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about the Bills for

1978
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 1: a second, the one thing that we have. But it's

1979
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: like a double edged sword. We're the only team that

1980
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: did four consecutive Super Bowls. Unfortunately it didn't play out

1981
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: the way we'd like it. I don't have to tell you, Steve,

1982
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But with that said, I just have

1983
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: a question. And it's just a question I live and

1984
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: I lived him in and when we lost to the Giants,

1985
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: right and when Belichick was a defensive coach, and it

1986
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: came out and I'm going to look for it and

1987
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to you guys not too long

1988
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 1: from now. But it came out i'd say four or

1989
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: five days later that the strategy with the K gun

1990
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: was when we got in the red zone, there were

1991
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: faked injuries, and you know, that was our big thing.

1992
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: We're in the red zone and you know we were

1993
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: almost impossible to stop. So that's something that came out

1994
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 1: sort of after the fact. What the Giants were fake

1995
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: in injuries? If you ever have you ever heard any

1996
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: of that? No, I've never heard. That's new to me.

1997
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all. Maybe there are some

1998
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: fans who did. Maybe I was just out of touch

1999
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 1: four or five days after the game because I put

2000
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: it out of my mind already, But I don't remember

2001
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: that as being an issue. Now, remember Steven hang on

2002
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 1: just a second, if you would call her Carl going

2003
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: into the AFC Championship game. Maybe not even that year,

2004
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years before, or was it that year.

2005
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: I think it was that year, right when AFC Championship

2006
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: game that year was against the Raiders, all right, so

2007
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was the playoff game AFC Championship game

2008
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: against the Bengals when the when Sam White and the Bengals.

2009
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: That's correct, we're faking injuries, right, just I don't remember

2010
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: that either. Yeah, and they were Marv got the league

2011
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: to have warned them before kickoff, don't try to fake injuries.

2012
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: You'll be called for a penalty. You're right. I do.

2013
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: The weekend I do. And that's when Sam weish they

2014
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: had run their version of the no huddle. Ours was different.

2015
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: They were both called no huddle. So even today people

2016
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati thing they were the ones who invented it,

2017
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 1: but it was two different things. I mean they both

2018
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: called the same thing, but it was uh. Actually we

2019
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: had it happened to us. Uh and maybe the Bengals happened.

2020
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Bengals. I saw it on TV.

2021
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: The Bengals played Chuck Knox and the Seahawks, and the

2022
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 1: Seahawks had an old nose tackle. Every time they started

2023
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: to go no huddle. He just sat on the ground.

2024
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 1: He started grabbing his knee, he just sat down. Yeah, Carl,

2025
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't remember him. I don't remember that. In the

2026
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, No, I think that. I think the Giants

2027
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: beat us in that Super Bowl pretty fair and square. Yeah,

2028
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: this discu and lastly, um, I just want to tip

2029
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: my hat to Marv Levy and Kelly and you Steve.

2030
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, four years, that's you know, that's look

2031
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: it congratulations. We didn't get you know, you know, to

2032
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: the pie in the sky. But you know what, that's

2033
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: something that we you know, we we can never forget.

2034
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: And I thank you for that growing up as a

2035
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: Bills fan like for fifty some years. And yeah, that's

2036
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: that's really it. And I'm gonna go out in the

2037
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: limits say one thing. I think Gore is gonna be

2038
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the surprise acquisition this year for blocking, uh for for

2039
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Allen for passes. And I'm expecting big things from Shady

2040
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: McCoy with him leading away and a better offensive offensive line.

2041
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: And I'll I'll end it with that. Well, hopefully that

2042
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the kind words about the old teams

2043
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: that I was on. Hopefully there will be a generation

2044
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: of Bills fans that have more fun things in store

2045
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: for them and that they can remember when they get

2046
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: to be our age. I think they will. I think

2047
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: this is a this is a unique point in history

2048
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: for this organization. I think they're they're poised for a

2049
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: big move. I don't know how big a move it'll

2050
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: be this year, but I uh, you know this Murphy

2051
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm very high on this team. I like where they're at.

2052
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I like the plan that they've put together. The problem is,

2053
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: even when you do everything right, you still lose games,

2054
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, sure, So the question is how many games

2055
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: can they win? That's going to be I mean, it

2056
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: is the most that's a litmus test. It is the

2057
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: most competitive endeavor in sports, I believe the National Football League,

2058
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and as much as we all feel good about what

2059
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: the Bills have done, everybody else is hustling this offseason

2060
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: to get better, to win more games. Every team, every

2061
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: team feels they're significantly better than they were eight months ago. Right,

2062
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: they feel like that, Wow, they're better because they've got

2063
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: because they got you know, eighty eight guys on their roster,

2064
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: and they got depth and promise everywhere. Yeah, if they

2065
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 1: don't have established players, they do have depth and they've

2066
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of hope. So everybody's really good right now.

2067
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 1: And make thirteenth John and a seal is on the

2068
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: line of this, John, Welcome to the show. Happy to

2069
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: have you, Hi, guys. I just policheck breathing. You're right, Yeah,

2070
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: that's really I see it as like a perfect marriage, right.

2071
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't see either one of them doing anything great

2072
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: without each other, Okay, And it's just you don't see

2073
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: this too often, And I think it's a goat combination.

2074
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Frees the gold of anything, and I

2075
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 1: don't think the Belichick is the gold of anything, because

2076
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: I believe it. Goat is different errors and it's harder

2077
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: to distinguish a goal. But a combination of the two,

2078
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: there it is. They're just amazing. I mean, that's but

2079
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that they could do this alone without

2080
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: the without the other. I'm not gonna say they're gonna

2081
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: they would have had the exact same success or more

2082
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 1: success or less success. I don't know, but I know this.

2083
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: They win a lot of games without Tom Brady as

2084
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: their quarterback. They do because when Bradway had a suspension,

2085
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: I think they won three out of the form. Bore

2086
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: is the only one that and they had three different quarterbacks,

2087
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: right all right? I remember that? Yeah? I agree, And

2088
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 1: they went eleven and five with Matt Castle. You're gonna

2089
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: forced me to look up that record. Now you forced

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Speaker 1: me to look up the drafts. I will. I'll take

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Speaker 1: a few minutes. You think they win a lot of

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Speaker 1: games without Tom Brady. Yeah, I gotta think about that too.

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Speaker 1: They do. I'll bet you. I'll bet you there. I'll

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Speaker 1: bet you there. I'll bet you Their win percentage is

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Speaker 1: pretty commensurate with it is than it is with Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady at quarterback eleven minute. We'll take a look. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do because he he go twelve and

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Speaker 1: thirteen and whatever. They went twelve or thirteen games every

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Speaker 1: season with him, So I don't know that they'd beat that,

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Speaker 1: but I know they were. They'll be at least eleven

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Speaker 1: and five percentage. Yeah, I gotta call the line from Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is John in Virginia. Is I don't

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Speaker 1: give your name. I'm sorry, this is Garriden. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't read it, got garden, Welcome to the show. Where

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Speaker 1: are you calling from Virginia? I must say that I

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Speaker 1: must read that that Bill Belichick is the best one

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Speaker 1: may perhaps one of the best coaches I've ever watched

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, no doubt, nobody dis viewed that. You.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the comparison is between him and

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Speaker 1: his quarterback? Well, first of all, um, Brady Brady has

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Speaker 1: I agree like Brady West been injured since then and

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Speaker 1: the and they still won some games like I must

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Speaker 1: say that. I must say like ever since, like remember

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Speaker 1: back in the Super Bowl, like since the ninth since,

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Speaker 1: um was what's the year when the first game in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, like against the Giants? Yeah the Bill,

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Speaker 1: Yeah is nineteen yeah us us Bill Belichick was a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and they and he won for that and

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Speaker 1: they were almost undefeated back then, like with John Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's look, nobody's saying Belichick is not a great coach.

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Speaker 1: He is a great coach and a great defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: that we got to call on the line from Ivan

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Good afternoon, I've been walking to the show.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, John, Steve. How are you guys doing to day? Good? Great? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So just to go back to your original question today,

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Ken dors is gonna have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact on Josh Allen for August reasons. But then to

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Speaker 1: your second topic about Brady and Belichick. Uh, my question

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01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: to you guys is this is that how much due

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01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: to the fact that the flat gate and spy Gate

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01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: detract from their their success? To my opinion, Um, you

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01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 1: know you can you know, the Patriot success can have

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01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: to have to be measure with a grain of salt.

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01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the difference between them and Pete Rolls,

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01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:58,480
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, who have all jeopardized the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the game, you know, So in my opinion, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: their success should be greaded with the what what the

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01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 1: atter risks like Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriquez success? And

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01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:14,520
Speaker 1: because who's to say that all their all their championships

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01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: are actually legit, you know. I mean, they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: been proven cheaters, so everyone talks about them being the goat,

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Speaker 1: they've been the greatest of all time. How about being

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Speaker 1: the greatest cheaters of all time? And then lastly, but

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Speaker 1: I want to lead you guys with with the signing

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Speaker 1: of Lee Smith, does that also show that the Bills

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01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: made a mistake by trading up two third round picks

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01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: was tight end who might not even make the team

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01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: and uh and that they should have, if anything, take

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Speaker 1: a chance on a receiver. That they should have took

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Speaker 1: one on Dk Metcalf, who is now getting rave reviews

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Speaker 1: over in Seattle. See you, guys, thank you, thank you. Ivan.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that first. I think Dawson Knox will make

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Speaker 1: the team the third round pick, I do, Um, they

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Speaker 1: traded the fourth rounders. Uh, actually, is that where they

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Speaker 1: traded them? No, yeah, that is they traded the fourth

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01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 1: rounders to move up together. I'm okay with that. Um.

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf's getting rave reviews for what rookie minicamp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can have those. I'm gonna worry about this much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, we're gonna have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, let me just say this day,

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Speaker 1: we're interested in Lee Smith. I'm not gonna say before

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01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: the draft, but it wasn't didn't just happen today, right,

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Speaker 1: They had him in here last week. They look at

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith has been signed. I believe to provide leadership

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Speaker 1: and experience in the very young, inexperienced tight end room. Right,

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Speaker 1: Steve Right, That's what I think. Dawson Knox has the

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01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 1: potential to be a producer, especially in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith not likely to be that guy. So that's

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Speaker 1: why he's signed. I think he's part of the could

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Speaker 1: be part of the mix of tight ends are gonna

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Speaker 1: have on the fifty three man roster and there's a

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01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: chance too that what do they carry four maybe on

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Speaker 1: the active roster or three anyway, and they might carry

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Speaker 1: four in the active roster, keep three active on game day,

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Speaker 1: maybe four depending on special teams. That means Tommy so

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Speaker 1: We is going to be in the mix. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Croft is on the roster. I think Lee Smith

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Speaker 1: is definitely on the roster, and Croom is still here

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Speaker 1: and Sweeney and Knox. There's five guys and Sweeney or

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Speaker 1: Knox could be a candidate for the practice squad, although

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Speaker 1: you would be susceptible to losing one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think it's an admission that they

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Speaker 1: made Signing Lee Smith is an admission that they made

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Speaker 1: a mistake not taking a wide out. Not at all.

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Speaker 1: I think they are. I think it's a telling to

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01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: me if you're going to look for an old in

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01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: some sort of different motivation for that. I think it

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01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: might be that Brian day Bole says, listen, I want

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Speaker 1: more tight end in my offense this year. That may

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01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: be a more telling thing than saying they don't like

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Speaker 1: the guys they draft. The caller Ivan had another point,

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Speaker 1: which is a popular point amongst some Steve. Yeah. Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick's legacy is all those super Bowl championships and Spygate

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Speaker 1: and the flate gate. That's part of his legacy as

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Speaker 1: well as well as Brady as a matter of fact. Right, then,

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Speaker 1: deflate gate they own that, they have to own that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they cheated. It's not you know, deflate gate in particular

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Speaker 1: to me seems like a relatively minor form of playing

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01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: fast and loose with rules as opposed to Spygate. But

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Speaker 1: that's part of their legacy, it is, that's true. And

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Speaker 1: you're I think deflate gate gets inflated and it's importance

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Speaker 1: because of Spygate because and then there was a pattern

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Speaker 1: of cheating. Uh. The Spygate thing was big. I don't

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01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,719
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. Um. You know, those Patriot

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01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: fans will say, listen, they're not getting that much out

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Speaker 1: of that. If they weren't getting that much out of it,

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01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 1: they would not have done it because the league was

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01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: onto them and had been notified and the league sent

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Speaker 1: them a memo the same week that they caught them

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Speaker 1: continuing to do it. So they were getting something out

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Speaker 1: of it. And and you remember Man's Eric Mangini, the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Jets who had been on the

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01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: Patriot staff was the one who said, listen, you're not

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Speaker 1: kind of don't do that to us in our building,

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01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: and told the league about it and told the Patriots

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Speaker 1: not to do it, and the Patriots went ahead and

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01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: did it anyway, and they got the guy. So that

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01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: to me was pretty egregious, and there's no way around it.

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01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 1: You got to come to grips with that. If you're

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Speaker 1: a Patriot fan, you can say, oh, I don't care

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Speaker 1: and they don't do it anymore or whatever, But there

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01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: certainly seems it certainly seems to illustrate a willingness to

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Speaker 1: go beyond the rules to win. Deflate gate. I'm with you, John.

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Speaker 1: The guys I've spoken to the coaches and the people

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Speaker 1: in front offices and other people who've spoken on it publicly,

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: they shrugged their shoulders at deflate gate. That two pounds

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01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: less pressure in the football. They're like, give me a break.

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01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't care, right, nobody really cares. So, but when

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01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: you put it in contacts with deflate gate and all

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01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: other stuff, yeah, it gets thrown in the mix and

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: it does. There's nothing. There's no question about it. That

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01:52:59,880 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: is the dent in the Polish of what the Patriots

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01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: have accomplished over the last fifteen twenty years. Hey, your

2234
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: point about the Patriots win a lot without Brady, you

2235
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: are right again, Steve Tasker. He's missed nineteen games by

2236
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: my count, by my research, my in show research here,

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Brady's missed nineteen games since his since he became a

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Speaker 1: starter in two thousand and one. And the Patriots record

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01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: nineteen starts, not when he's replaced her again, thirteen wins,

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Speaker 1: six losses, So they do they win twice as much

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: when when he's you know, that's good. That's a good record.

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01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what to proves, but it's like eleven

2243
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: and five, that's what they did when with Matt Castle

2244
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,799
Speaker 1: starting old this year, and then they then when Brady

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01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: got suspended for deflate Gate, they went three and one

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01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: with Jacoby Brissette and Jimmy Garoppolo. So they got a

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01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: pro Now that that's two that that's a team kind

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01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 1: of coming together and rallying around a guy when they

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 1: go eleven and five when Brady goes down. But Matt

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Speaker 1: Castle is he in the league. I think he is.

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Speaker 1: I think he is on a roster right now. I

2252
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: can't remember where I think about that, look at it,

2253
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 1: and he's I know, we saw him here. Good guy,

2254
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: good guy, but he could he couldn't play for Buffalo,

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01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: couldn't play so and that's at a time when they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, they were searching, you know, man, So I

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01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: says something to me. And then the fact that Jacoby

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01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: Brissette and Jimmy Garopolo Garoppolo go four and three and

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01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 1: one during that four game stent two years ago, three

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01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: years ago when Brady was a little closer to the

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Speaker 1: height of his powers. Well he missed one right when

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01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Brissette played, But no, Metcastle is still a free agent.

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Speaker 1: So the league right now, Hey, yeah, welcome to one

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Speaker 1: Patriots Live. We're talking about it right. We want to

2265
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: talk about the Bills and the Patriots. Which offseason addition

2266
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: will benefit Josh Allen the most. We got a couple

2267
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: of suggestions up on Twitter is that Cole Beasley is

2268
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: that quarterbacks coach Ken Dorsey is at center, Mitch Morris

2269
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: and Belichick or Brady who's most responsible for their championship run.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's an official topic. Now we'll come back

2271
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: to get discuss, discuss plus NFL truin false. When we return,

2272
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: we'll come back in discuss and discuss. We'll be disgusted

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Speaker 1: with this whole topic. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, One goes Live

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01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive. I'm John Murphy. Seat tasker is back,

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith is back tight end. Lee Smith back with

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: the Bills. Will be on the show with us tomorrow.

2278
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, they had another day of off season

2279
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 1: conditioning today. They're still in phase two, which means um

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01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: a lot of meeting time. Well, you heard our guests

2281
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: to Jikwan John's talk about it. Meeting time, conditioning time,

2282
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 1: on field, walk through type time. We saw that a

2283
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of that going on today and then back to

2284
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 1: the meeting room. The rookies have a little bit of

2285
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: extra work to do as well, based two of the

2286
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 1: offseason conditions. Look look at my calendar. We're coming up.

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01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I think next week is the official OTA people call

2288
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 1: these OTAs. They're not OTA's officially yet OTA's Where are

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01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: we Today's the third tas? Nope, two weeks away? So

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01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: what are these called? U proper offseason conditioning? Okay, and

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01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: the Rookie Development Program I remember so much that I

2292
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: feel bad for guys like Jikwan Johnson who comes in

2293
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: and he's you know, and I made the analogy. I've

2294
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: done it a couple of times where it's like drinking

2295
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: out of a fire hose because they kind of over

2296
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: and I remember, you start. This is where it starts

2297
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: for these rookies. They get in here and they start

2298
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: riding that roller coaster of I'm gonna be an all

2299
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: pro perennially every year, and I'm gonna get cut in

2300
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 1: the next five minutes, like moment to moment and one

2301
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent you believe both ends of that spectrum hundred percent.

2302
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you ride this this deep down, one hundred

2303
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,879
Speaker 1: percent emotional roller coaster to the top and the bottom

2304
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: moment to moment, and it's just that's just exhausting. It's exhausting.

2305
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: I felt bad almost asking Jaquan about he's been here

2306
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: since Thursday, you know, and ans, well, what have you

2307
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: done you see any buffalo? No all we do. We

2308
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: stay at the hotel, We take the bus here, We

2309
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 1: work from what do you say, six am to five pm. Yeah,

2310
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: they got here like sixty five this morning. The catch

2311
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: the bus, they catch the bus what six fifteen? Yea,

2312
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: they get over here and all you do or hang

2313
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 1: out with people you work with. Look, I like people

2314
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 1: I work with. Obviously I don't want to hang with

2315
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: you your present company accepted, right, But I don't want

2316
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 1: to spend the whole day with your day after day

2317
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: after day after day break. Who doesn't want to do that.

2318
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, though, they it's like three days

2319
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: and plus all those guys are in the exact same

2320
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 1: so it's kind of fun. It's a little bonding thing,

2321
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 1: a little bit like training camp where you get in

2322
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: and you spend the you go down, you have dinner together,

2323
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: and you hang out. Say what do you do? How

2324
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think about this guy?

2325
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: What do you think about that guy? What's going on

2326
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: with you? You know, there's a little bit of that commiserating.

2327
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of group therapy going on there.

2328
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: But by the same token, at the end of that,

2329
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 1: ye mean, you sleep for like sixteen hours. You know,

2330
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 1: you get home and it's like after this is all

2331
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: over with and you get one break, it's like, oh yeah, yeah,

2332
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 1: I was wrong. It is next week. Ota start next week.

2333
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Phase three of the conditioning and then they can get

2334
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: into seven on seven, nine on seven, eleven on eleven

2335
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: that starts next week, not live contact, not pads obviously,

2336
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: but OTAs begin a week from today. If I'm reading

2337
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: my came, I think, can they Is it true that

2338
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: they can like start walking through like have coaches on

2339
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: the field and walk through their news. Yeah, where they can.

2340
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: And once they Once you start doing that, you're you're

2341
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: getting a bunch of plays all day. You've mentioned a

2342
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: bunch of concepts every day to digest and get under

2343
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: your belt so that when you start running them, you

2344
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 1: know them and you're expected to know them. And that's

2345
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: that's when it gets a little bit dicey. Yeah. Hey,

2346
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: we got a lot on the table here today. Um,

2347
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Bills and which offseason edition you

2348
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: think will be most beneficial to Josh Allen. If you

2349
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: have a thought on that, give it's a call. Eight

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01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight

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01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Got sidetracked a little bit,

2352
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 1: but it's a good sidetrack. The Patriots because of Mike Greece,

2353
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: we talked about the Patriots got talking about Belichick Brady.

2354
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Who's more important to the Patriots success. Let's know what

2355
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: you think about I call on the line from Norm

2356
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 1: in Alden, New York. Hello, Norm, go ahead, Hi John

2357
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: and Steve H good afternoon. Yes, you know, first off,

2358
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I have to this is gonna benefit you, John as

2359
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: far as your take with Steve if Waite, Gay, I'll

2360
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: tell you what Brady could be the Cleveland Browns with

2361
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: a nerf ball and if Mitch Morris, I think he's

2362
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna make the biggest edition. And what's interesting here is

2363
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 1: you have Ken Dorsey with it is who's gonna help

2364
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: Josh Yellen all the best? Yeah? Okay, did we forget

2365
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: about Josh mcdalien McDaniels with UM with the Patriots. So

2366
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:56,879
Speaker 1: who is actually Brady's coach, McDaniels or Belichick. Well, McGinnis

2367
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: is the OC. Yeah, he's the offensive coordinator. Yeah, I

2368
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if they live the quarterbacks coach. But

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean the way it's worked, Norman, I think Steve

2370
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 1: will verify this. Um. You know, Brady worked without Jash

2371
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 1: McDaniels for a while when McDaniels went to UH Denver.

2372
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: Obviously Brady was successful then too, So I guess the question,

2373
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 1: how much credit do you give Jash McDaniels Josh and

2374
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 1: Brady was successful under Charlie Weiss. Yeah, okay, I understand,

2375
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: I understand that. But okay, here's another question. If Brady

2376
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: would have played for the for the Bills, okay, forget

2377
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 1: about Belichick. Would Brady take the Bills to a championship? Well,

2378
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I don't know. Do you think

2379
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 1: he would have done it in say two thousand and

2380
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: eleven when or one of those years and then during

2381
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: the drought when the Bills had a rough roster back

2382
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: an H three when Greg Williams took over and they

2383
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 1: went three and thirteen or something like that. I mean,

2384
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: with a roster like that, do you think he could have?

2385
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: And it depends on what coaching staff you're talking about.

2386
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: This coaching staff maybe you know Um, but you know

2387
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: others maybe not. I don't know. That's a good question. Uh,

2388
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: if you it's hard to transplant Tom Brady into another team, forgot.

2389
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 1: And there's another thing. Doesn't wear pads? Brady does? Okay, Yeah,

2390
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this too, like it or not,

2391
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick gets credit for picking Tom Brady. He gets

2392
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 1: credit for developing Josh McDaniels. He gets credit for replacing

2393
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 1: Charlie Wise. He gets credit for replacing Romeo Crenell. He

2394
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 1: gets credit for uh for cutting and or trading great

2395
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: players to other teams like Mike Vrabel like, uh, uh,

2396
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 1: well your name Wes Welker. Uh. He gets credit for

2397
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: building the roster the way it is constructed around Tom Brady, UM,

2398
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: and giving Tom Brady the weapons and the and the

2399
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: program and the offense to change the identity UM week

2400
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: to week. And this is a team also that didn't

2401
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 1: really depend on Tom Brady last year they were running

2402
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: football team. Uh. Bill Belichick gets credit for all of that,

2403
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady. Steve, I can tell you getting tired

2404
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 1: of the Belichick Brady think. Can you take one more

2405
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 1: call on this? Okay? If you want to skip NFL

2406
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 1: true falls, No, okay, I'll take one more call in,

2407
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Steve says, one more call in, gentlemen, if you're gonna

2408
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 1: ask me, I'm gonna pronounce it. Steve has pronounced. I

2409
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,760
Speaker 1: just said Mark and Buffalo Mark ahead. You're on the air. Hey, Steve,

2410
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 1: you doing okay great? I'm with you, guys, and tired

2411
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 1: of this conversation, but I was compelled to call. I'm

2412
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: kind of that's exactly where our mindset is. Yeah, we're

2413
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: tired of it, not really really. I think, look, and

2414
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 1: before you go on to your point, Mark, I think

2415
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: the answer is obviously is unanswerable. Right, so we could

2416
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 1: do this three hours tomorrow, which we won't, but we

2417
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: could tomorrow. Right. There's no answer here, no right answer.

2418
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mark, It's unanswerable. But it feels good as

2419
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: a Bill's fan to have something to bash them with.

2420
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: All the success leads YEA, Mine comes down to a

2421
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: basic question. I just listen to you guys go on

2422
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 1: about about Bill and how he's so brilliant and how

2423
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 1: he just seems to be heads and tails over everybody

2424
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: in the league in everything he does and how he

2425
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: does it, in the moves he makes, and his coaching

2426
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: ability and all of that. Okay, so if he's that great,

2427
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 1: and you know, he has an ego which means he's

2428
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 1: not afraid of anything, and he's going to have so

2429
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:38,720
Speaker 1: much confidence it's got to be oozing out of the pores.

2430
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 1: And then he looks over to the other table and

2431
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: he sees, I got the greatest quarterback that ever played

2432
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 1: the game with those two things, Why in the world

2433
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 1: would he feel compelled to cheat? Yeah, I mean it's

2434
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 1: well documented, And I have a second question. The theme

2435
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: of their behavior is is documented. You can't argue it.

2436
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 1: You know it's there. What don't we know? Okay, good questions.

2437
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: We're willing to do it multiple times like that, I

2438
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: will almost guarantee you. And I know I sound crazy

2439
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: and a conspiracy theorist, but I would just like to say,

2440
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: or the smoke, there's fire, and if they've done it

2441
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: that many times, there's things we don't know about. Also,

2442
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that's right point. But let me ask you

2443
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 1: this question, Mark to your to your point, you might

2444
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: be right that where there's smoke, there's fire, and there

2445
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: may be more. But how different are they from everybody

2446
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 1: else in the NFL? Aren't there others who have done it?

2447
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the New Orleans Saints got in big trouble

2448
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 1: for and that's a little different. I tried to shoot

2449
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 1: videos of coaches signals nobody else has played with inflation

2450
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 1: there trying to find stuff out about their opponent, and

2451
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 1: that's basically what it's all about. It's not it's not

2452
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: a lot of it well, and excepting the answers to

2453
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brad. That's why everybody kind of shrugs their shoulders

2454
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 1: as Tom Brady thing. The things that the other the

2455
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: other stuff you're talking about is information that is proprietary

2456
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,320
Speaker 1: of your opponent that you're not supposed to find out,

2457
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 1: and trying to find that out. I don't know how

2458
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: prevalent that is in the National Football League across the board, certainly,

2459
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. They I'll give you a real example.

2460
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:19,120
Speaker 1: It's it's commonplace in the NFL too. If you're say

2461
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 1: we're playing at New Air of Field and the team

2462
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 1: comes in and you have the game, and the game's

2463
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: all done, and and the your opponent goes home, particularly

2464
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 1: a division opponent, but any other opponent as well. The

2465
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 1: guys who clean those locker rooms scour the garbage for

2466
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 1: game plans. They go through there and they find all

2467
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 1: the all the printed material, all the stuff that's left behind,

2468
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that's left on the white board, the stuff

2469
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 1: that's in the did you go go through it. If

2470
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 1: there's anything there that's useful and it has happened, it happened.

2471
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:52,240
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen too much anymore because teams are aware of it, right,

2472
02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't do that anymore. They have people

2473
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: that scour the locker rooms before they leave. But back

2474
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: in the day, we used to find stuff and we

2475
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 1: would bring it out and use it, use it what

2476
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 1: however you could, whatever it was worth. Uh, that's commonplace.

2477
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: So another one man's trash is another man's treasure. That literally,

2478
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: So that kind of stuff happened, and so that now here.

2479
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 1: And here's another thing. I'll tell you this. Whatever you

2480
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: think about the bills and how and how the they

2481
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: do this in the bowels of every coaching staff there

2482
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 1: you know this, there are people who are probably and

2483
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds funny to say, I know,

2484
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: there's probably New England people listening to this show, listening

2485
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 1: to the interview, right, they want to know if there's

2486
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,920
Speaker 1: anything that you and I would find out about the

2487
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 1: other side of the building that we would divulge on

2488
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: the air. There's pet and when there's people in this

2489
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: building that scour the upcoming opponents for this season and

2490
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: their websites for live footage, footage with teams in the background,

2491
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: with stuff going on in the backgroun. Who are they hand?

2492
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 1: Who's this guy? Handing off to what formation are they

2493
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: in when they're doing this little walkthrough thing? What are

2494
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 1: they all? That stuff is fair game. That's the level

2495
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:15,240
Speaker 1: of information that these teams look for. It happens, so

2496
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: you can bet that, you know, if they get a

2497
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 1: chance to go beyond that. I don't know if there's

2498
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 1: any team that would not do that. Thanks for you're calling.

2499
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break. We're coming back

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Speaker 1: in a moment. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, what do we learned?

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Speaker 1: What do we learn? Good show today. Jaquan Johnson joined

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Speaker 1: us earlier on today, sixth round pick of the Bills Universe.

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Speaker 1: Say in Miami Safety worked a little bit with Ed

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Speaker 1: Reid and knows. Ed Reid, former Bille's UH defensive backfield

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Speaker 1: assistant coach and of course, incoming Pro Football Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: Jaquan Johnson talked to us about rookie minicamp over the

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Speaker 1: weekend and what he learned and what he got from

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo coaching staff. I definitely was able to feel

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Speaker 1: how the coaches would coach me. They were for me

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Speaker 1: pretty hard. Uh, like coaches should be everything fast, temple,

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Speaker 1: up temple. They want perfect technique in details. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a professional. You know, you're you're making a

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Speaker 1: big transition, and you know, I think I would pretty

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Speaker 1: much able to do that for the most part with

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Speaker 1: the rookie minicamp. But now that I'm going into with

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Speaker 1: the Vets now it's going to be different from memory

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Speaker 1: to adjust again and hopefully those guys can help me out.

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Speaker 1: So Jaquan Johnson good guy to talk to you. We're

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Speaker 1: glad to have him. We had Mike Reese on the

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Speaker 1: show earlier today. Mike Reece who covers the Patriots for

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Speaker 1: NFL or for ESPN. He's the ESPN NFL Nature Order

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Speaker 1: in Boston covering the Patriots, longtime Patriots beat reporter. We

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Speaker 1: asked him about the Patriots going with quarterback Jared Stidham

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Speaker 1: from Auburn in the draft this year. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: Jared Stidham's a late fourth round pick, so the pressure

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Speaker 1: isn't the expectations and the pressure is. It's not the

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Speaker 1: same thing because if Jared's Stidham doesn't work out, they'll

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Speaker 1: just take another stab at it in next year's draft

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Speaker 1: or the year after. But they like him, Steve, and

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Speaker 1: they think he's got a chance, and they're gonna put him.

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Speaker 1: I'll call it on the Jimmy Garoppolo program, where just

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Speaker 1: being in the room with Tom Brady, you're already winning,

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Speaker 1: right because you're learning through that. And then the way

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo got his experience was in the offseason and

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Speaker 1: then in the preseason, and then you never know when

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get that opportunity in the regular season with injury.

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Speaker 1: So they'll sort of evaluate it as it goes. But

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Speaker 1: for Jared Stidham, you're looking right now at a two

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Speaker 1: year snapshot and then they'll have a better idea of

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Speaker 1: what he really is and where he sits with them.

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Speaker 1: Mc greece from ESPN dot Com. One last word on

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Speaker 1: the Patriots controversy from Rob in Rhode Island. You should know, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you're right there in little Roadie, right, that's right. I

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Speaker 1: called you a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, talked you.

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Speaker 1: I loved your shawl and mister Tasker, I started listening

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Speaker 1: when you were before vacation and mister Brown was on

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Speaker 1: and I loved your shaw Thank you. I want you

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Speaker 1: guys to understand that do you know any Patriot players

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Speaker 1: that were drafted during these twenty years are actually New

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Speaker 1: England Patriot Hall of famers? Do you know how many?

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Speaker 1: How many? Not many? One who's that high law? Not

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss, not Rodney Harrison, not Corey Dillon, and on

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Speaker 1: one guy, one guy. This whole time, we used to

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Speaker 1: talk up here in rhneland about Peyton Manning versus Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is the best ever? Right? Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: he had Reggie Wayne, he had h Marshall, Falk, James Clark.

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Speaker 1: So what how does that Rob add to the Belichick

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Speaker 1: versus Brady discussion? How do you think that answer? I'm

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Speaker 1: right on it. There, they're equal. These these guys both

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Speaker 1: have dealt with a whole bunch of stuff. And you

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Speaker 1: guys went into the flay Kate and all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: which was a league I think, not to play gate,

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Speaker 1: the spy gate. That wasn't a memo to New England.

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Speaker 1: That was a memo to everybody that was doing it,

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Speaker 1: including New England. But it's not why they won. Day

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Speaker 1: won before that, and as you've seen last year, they

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Speaker 1: won after that. But these guys at age forty one,

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Speaker 1: Brady last year, he himself, they had the statistic on

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Speaker 1: Pro Pro football UM perspectives, I think it is. It's

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Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady. He was second in the league in

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Speaker 1: big time throws, that's third down throws. The best percentage

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Speaker 1: of third down throws made Tom Brady last year the

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Speaker 1: second best behind UM. So he plays a more prominent

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Speaker 1: role than Belichick, you think or no, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get to the essence of what you I mean. Belichick

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Speaker 1: is the maestro, you know. He he's Doug all this.

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Speaker 1: He's a good manager. Yeah, and actually play. But he's

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Speaker 1: the guy who picks all these guys and not one

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Speaker 1: of them, it was like only one of them was

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Speaker 1: a Hall of famer. Shows you how good of a

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Speaker 1: colch he is. Yeah. They don't draft up Rob. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: we're running out of time here. They don't draft well,

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Speaker 1: We've made that point. Hard to draft well thirty second

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Speaker 1: overall all the time, they don't draft well, that's proven

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Speaker 1: UM and again, I think this is an unanswerable question,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Steve. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that we'll ever know the answer

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Speaker 1: get a chance to see one without the other. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to see Tom Brady without Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: We may see Belichick without Tom if that happens, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go down in history. Is one of the

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Speaker 1: great debates about that in particular when this era is over. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that either one will ever

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Speaker 1: get their individual due I think all of us put

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Speaker 1: those guys together like salt and Pepper. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: just don't. They just there's not one without the other.

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Speaker 1: So we've had a good show today. Another good show

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Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow. Micah Hide, Bill Safety's going to join us.

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Speaker 1: We'll check in with him about the progress of the

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Speaker 1: offseason conditioning program. Lee Smith's scheduled to join us tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as he settles in brand new Bill's tight end on

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Speaker 1: the second stint with the Bills, and we'll talk with

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, former Bills offensive lineman. The hardest working man

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Speaker 1: in football media by my account, I'll tell him that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: He is. He's a grinder. We're hard on you, and

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Speaker 1: that's as high as that bar is. You're right. Ross

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Speaker 1: Tucker joining this tomorrow as well, Production assistant George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude, j j Arto, Kevin Cargis,

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Speaker 1: James Robot, our producer Jay Harris. Steve's coming back tomorrow too,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, so we look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We'll see tomorrow at noon. One

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