1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: So, the state of Texas is in a standoff with 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: the federal government right now over its ability to defend 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: its borders from the invasion that is happening at the 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: southern border. Texas wants to be able to put up 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: razor wire. Texas wants to be able to well defend 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: its borders. So why is the federal government fighting them? 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Did you ever think you would live in a time 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: where the federal government was actively preventing a state from 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: defending itself from an invasion? But here we are. Also, 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: what did the Supreme Court say about all of this? 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: We're going to have the Attorney General of Texas, Ken 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Paxson on the show to break down what you need 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: to know, what's at the heart of this, what's really happening, 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: and where is this all going. Stay with me, trust me, 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: you're not going to want to miss this interview with 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton. Well, Attorney General, 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the show. I imagine 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: you guys have been pretty busy. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me, yus, it's been remarkably busy. Unfortunately, 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: when you have a government that disdains the laws that 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: have been passed by Congress have been around for a 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: long time, and they disdain that, and they have goals 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: of importing illegals and helping the cartels do it. It 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: becomes really a problem for the state of Texas, in 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: my opinion, the whole country. 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Did you ever think we would have a federal government 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: actively suing a state trying to defend itself and its borders. 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's I think it's kind of unfathomble to 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: believe that your own American government, that the leadership has 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: such disdain for the law, the constitution, they have disdained 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: for the people. 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: Because everything they're doing related to the border. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Not only is its super expensive and a burden on 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: every citizen of the country, but it's also creates tremendous 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: risk for higher crime which is going to happen, which 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: is already happening, And it creates tremendous risks for our 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: kids who are more likely to die now ever of 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: and all over doses and other drugs. And then it 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: creates a tremendous risk down the road or even tomorrow 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: for some incident of terrorism that kills millions. And that's 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: that's a risk. The Biden administration not only is allowed, 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: but they're embracing it. They're they're embracing it as part 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: of their policies, you know, I. 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, that's the thing is that we know 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: terrorists are coming over, and we've had like record numbers 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: caught at the southern border, and we don't know who's 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: actually getting in. Those are just the people who are caught. 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, tell us a little bit about I think 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: there's some confusion about what the Supreme Court's ruling meant. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: My understanding is it doesn't prohibit taxes from putting up 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: new razor wire. Can you kind of just break this 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: down for us and just sort of alleviate any confusion 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: that there might be. 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Sure, you know, of course the liberal media interprets it 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: broadly to try to convince people that certain things are true. 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: The only thing that in junction it was. It was 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: an junction that we got. 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: We sued. We sued the federal. 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: Government, you know, months ago, I think it was in October, 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: and sued them because they were coming onto our property 61 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: and cutting down wire and fences and then letting thousands 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: of illegals come across the border. I thought that's wrong. 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: They surely they can't do that, so we sued them. 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: We got an injunction at the Fifth Circuit to stop 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: them from doing it, and the five to four ruling, 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: which is obviously a one vote margin, three liberal judges, 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: and then whatever you want to determine, Roberts Is and 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: bear it decided that they could come under our property 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: and destroy whatever property they wanted to if they felt 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: like it was necessary to allow more illegals to come 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: into the country. All but it doesn't stop us from 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: putting it back up. It doesn't stop us, It doesn't 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: stop us from doing anything. We're going to continue to 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: defend the border the best we can, given the fact 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: that you know, the cartels are obviously in Bolden and 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: have a lot more resources because they made a lot 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: of money off the Biden administration, and the Biden administration 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: has making made it much tougher, and that they're working 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: with the cartels and not with us to protect our citizens. 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: So what are the next steps legally in all of 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: this in this fight. 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Well, that case is still ongoing, so we haven't had 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: We're not done on the merit, so we still could 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: win that case. Obviously, the Supreme Court five to four 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: was not good, but we also have other cases. We 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: have the Shelby Park case where we blocked it off 87 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: and we're not letting them, letting the federal government, the 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: Biden administration use that as a staging ground for more 89 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. We also have a lawsuit that we've been 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: suit over because our legislature did something I'd been asking 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: for for quite a while, which is pass the law 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: that deports people and make them stop us. 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: And so we've got a lawsuit over that. 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: So we're in the middle of a lot of battles. 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: We also have one over the buoys. We've got an 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: en Bok hearing with the Fifth Circuit over the buoys 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: that we've used to try to protect. Actually, we're trying 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: to protect the illegals crossing the water in dangerous places, 99 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: and the Biden administration doesn't even care about that. They're 100 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: fine with people drowning as long as they, you know, 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: increase the numbers of illegal immigrants. So those are the 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: four battles right now. Sure we'll have a few more 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: and you know, the next. 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: Week or two. 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: And each of those are the federal government trying to 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: prevent Texas from defending the border and defending its borders correct. 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Not only not only prevent us, but to aid and 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: to bet the cartels because they're the primary beneficiary of this. 109 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: It's not even the people coming here. They're they're making 110 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 2: you know, eight to ten, twelve thousand dollars a person. 111 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: Just add up the numbers of how many people are 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: coming across, and we're talking about billions. And then, of course, 113 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: because border Patrol's so busy doing logistics for the cartels 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: and for the Biden administration, they don't have the manpower 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: to stop all the illegal drugs and other crime going on. 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: And so the cartels are able to you know, also 117 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: make inroads throughout the country with transporting drugs, and the 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: Biden administration knows that, and they are pacively a allowing 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: the cartels to build that network. 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, who has ultimate authority the federal government or 121 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Texas in this instance. 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting we have this terrible case 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: back in the Obama administration where the court on another 124 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: bad ruling so that you know, Arizona couldn't pas laws 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: to protect itself when the federal government had a law 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: that they weren't enforcing. So you know, I cannot imagine 127 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: any of these states joining the Union including Texas. 128 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: If you had told them that. 129 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: The federal government wasn't going to defend the borders and 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: that they had to just sit on their hands and 131 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: it would be illegal in a violation of some court 132 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: order to protect your own citizens, no one would have joined. 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: So we created a country where the federal government is responsible, 134 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: supposed to be responsible to the states. We gave them 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: the power, they didn't give us the power. And now 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: suddenly they're dictating to us and saying, we have the power. 137 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: You can't even protect yourself when we won't do it. 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: That cannot be right. 139 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick commercial break. Stay with us. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: So Texas, along with other conservative states, have sent illegal 141 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: immigrants who have made their way into Florida or Texas 142 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: to sanctuary cities. Do you think that's helped kind of 143 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: put this issue on the map when you've got mayors 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: like Eric Adams now sounding the alarm in places like 145 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: New York City. 146 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: I absolutely, You know it so funny when it started happening, 147 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: I was like, look good at a couple of hundreds 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: or a couple of thousand, these you know, these cities 149 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: have just a trickle compared to us. 150 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: I think you make a difference. But it was a 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: genius move by. 152 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: Governor Abbott and then other governors followed, because it highlighted 153 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of all these sanctuary cities and these democratic 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: mayors that were like criticizing us and criticizing Trump for 155 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: enforcing the laws that we have in place to keep 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: illegals out, calling it racists and all calling saying hateful 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: things about governor and the President who. 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: Were protecting the border. 159 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: And then you know, they created their sanctuary cities because 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: they didn't have to worry about it. No one was 161 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: coming right because it was being blocked by the enforcement 162 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: of federal law. And then suddenly Biden starts allowing all 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: these people to come in, and we send a few 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: thousand on buses to these liberal sanctuary cities, and suddenly 165 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: they're like, well, wait, wait, wait, we didn't mean it. 166 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: We didn't want these people. It was fine when they 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: weren't coming in, and it was fine when they're all 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: in Texas and Florida and Arizona and California, but no, 169 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: we don't want any of them. 170 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: It costs a lot of money and there's a lot 171 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: of crime. 172 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: Obviously, huge hypocrisy, and that has been highlighted to the 173 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: American people by the continuation of this buffing to their 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities. 175 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: But then it's like they're still not arriving at the 176 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: logical conclusion, which is shutting it down and preventing this 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: from happening, because you see people like Eric Adams and 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, we just need more federal funding, you 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so he still hasn't arrived 180 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: at what was actually prevent this. 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that I'm ever going to rivee it, 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: even though that's the logical, most common sense. Why wouldn't 183 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: you just protect your boarder like every other country in 184 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: the world. 185 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know one that doesn't. But their 186 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: goals are different. 187 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: Their goals are massive importation to people to affect elections 188 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: in the future. They want a one party country where 189 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: it's impossible for there to be competition for the presidency 190 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: or control of the US Congress, so that we are 191 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: more like a you know, honestly, more like a tatalitarian 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: government's venzuela China, where you know, one party controls. 193 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: That's what they want in the ends. They want one. 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Party control where they have no possible way of losing 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: because they'll fix all the elections anyway once they get control, 196 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: and we won't be free. 197 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: That's what they want. They want to control everything, you know. 198 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really see any other solution besides 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: like mass deportation of the people who came here under 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the buid An administration. I mean, it's we've let in, 201 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: you know, like I think a population enough more than 202 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: like something like thirty three states. 203 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard like twelve million, and that's just a guess. 204 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I know, Well, then it's going to be more states. 205 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, like the CBO said six six million, 206 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: but like I don't you know, I think it's higher 207 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: than that. I've heard much higher than that, but like 208 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: we don't really know, right. I think that's part of 209 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: the challenge as well, is because you have all these 210 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: people who have got aways, and you know, it's it's 211 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: hard to really know how many people have made their 212 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: way here into the United States. You know, what does 213 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: that meant for Texas? Like what has that done to 214 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, the towns and cities in the state of 215 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: Texas in terms of you know, crime and fence and 216 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: al and uh, you know, financially draining. 217 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: I would assume, Yeah, it's very expensive. 218 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Obviously, we spend a lot more on law enforcement. Billions 219 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: of our dollars are going to law enforcement that otherwise 220 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to spend we could spend on other 221 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: better things that would benefit our citizens. We also have 222 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: tremendous costs for schools, real tremendous costs for health care. 223 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: We have. I mean, crime is definitely up. 224 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: And especially the bigger cities like Austin, is it a 225 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: particularly you know, higher crime rate. And but it's true, 226 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: really all of the state we're we're struggling with higher crime. 227 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: And of course we have more children dying from vent 228 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: all our differences than we've ever had. That's probably the 229 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: saddest thing. But wait till we have a terrorist attack 230 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: and it affects literally thousands and thousands. 231 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: Maybe hundreds of thousands of people. 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: It could be millions, we don't know, but we know 233 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: that that's being planned and that the Biden administration again 234 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: has disdain for its own people and is willing to 235 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: take the chance. Maybe they don't hope for it, but 236 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: they certainly are making the environment much more likely. And 237 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: so in my opinion, they're they're they're they're willing to 238 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: accept that possibility and the fact that it actually could happen. 239 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a given that we've let in, 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, tear ourselves from and it's not just like 241 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's like they've already warned us about you know, 242 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: potentially hamas, you know, individuals infiltrating the border. And then 243 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: we know that we have like Chinese nationals, Russian, you know, 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: like I thought these were enemy nations. 245 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: They're all a bunch of them, are like young men 246 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: who are military age coming over by themselves. And we 247 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: already know too that even on our terror watchlists, that 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: we're catching a higher number of them doesn't mean that 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: we're getting better at catching them. Clearly, they're not going 250 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: to be going through points of entry to you know. 251 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Sign in. They're just crossing the border. 252 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: And who knows howbody terror cells have set up under 253 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: the auspices of the Biden administration border policy. 254 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty frustrating to see that Republicans don't or 255 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: not all Republicans seem to grasp what's happening. I mean, 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: you've got people like Langford, who was arguing for a 257 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: potential bill out of the Senate that would allow for 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: five thousand illegal immigrants per day, which would mean over 259 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: one point eight million a year. I think something like 260 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand per month. That's basically just 261 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: codifying an invasion in perpetuity. 262 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: Can I just say, how, as a Republican, how dumb 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: I think that is? Like, how dumb could you be 264 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: to authorize illegals coming into our country? 265 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: And then basically Biden says. 266 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: Well, Hey, the Republicans voted for it, they're the ones 267 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: that agreed to this, and now now you're letting in 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: more people in viola. 269 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: I guess you're going to pass a lot to say 270 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: it's okay. I don't understand why you would. 271 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean President Biden right now is hanging himself during 272 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: it for the next election with this issue, and it's 273 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: become the number one issue and it's not good for 274 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. Hey, but then we got a bunch 275 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: of Republicans going, let's bail them out right before the election. 276 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's help the guy, let's let's give let's give our 277 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: blessing to this awful policy that has that we can't 278 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: pay for. 279 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: Even though we've authorized it, we're not going to have 280 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: it we don't have the money for it. 281 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: Or the ability to sustain the higher crime rates than 282 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: the higher risk I have no idea how any Republican 283 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: that is a found mind could possibly think that's a 284 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: good idea. 285 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Quick break more with Attorney General Ken Paxton. I feel 286 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: like what is happening is Biden is trying to set 287 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Republicans up to be like, look I tried there to, 288 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, so like even playing ball plays into that. 289 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: They should have just immediately rejected anything, you know, like 290 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the number allowed in is zero right period, and a 291 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: story like we're not negotiating the. 292 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Number a lot in is what federal immigration law is about. Already. 293 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, if we could just if we could enforce what 294 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: we had, we've already proven it works in the Trump administration. 295 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: It worked. He did it, and it was it was working. 296 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: If you want to tweak that thumb, well then do it, 297 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: but don't do it under the auspices of the Joe Biden. 298 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: And bailing him out and then giving him a way. 299 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Of saying, hey, look, my Republican brothers, they're the ones 300 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: that this didn't I didn't authorize this. They authorized it. 301 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: They just passed the law. They said it was a 302 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: good thing. And now you're there. Now President Trump has 303 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: criticizing me. It's his own party's fault. 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: Why would you do that. 305 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: He's done it for almost four years. Why would you 306 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: do it right before the election and hand Joe Biden. 307 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's always snatching victory from from 308 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: the defeat from the jobs of victory something. 309 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Whatever that saying is, that's what they're doing. 310 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: You know. And then you've got Biden saying, oh, I 311 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: need this emergency power so I can shut down the 312 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: border when he already has that authority. I mean, the 313 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: whole thing is just a joke. I mean, we should 314 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: be talking about how many people were going to deport 315 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: from the country and not allow in at this point. 316 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you think Americans get the joke? Do you think 317 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: that they understand that they are now second class citizens 318 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants who have come to this country. 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: I think a lot of them do. 320 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: And that's why Biden is struggling, and that's why he's 321 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: trying to pass this off to the Republicans. 322 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: And you make a really good point, that. 323 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: Is why aren't guys like James Lankford or others saying, hey, 324 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: we should be deporting these people. Let's let's provide resources to. 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: Deport people rather than help them. Haven't we gotten. 326 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Enough, Senators, Republican centers, Haven't enough people come across? Why 327 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: are you saying we need more? If it's twelve million 328 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: people or ten million, whatever it is, it's already overloading 329 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: the system. 330 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: And you're really going to say, yeah, just go ahead 331 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: and do more, don't We don't care. 332 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: Even if it was five thousand. I just I just 333 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: don't think we should allow anyone into this country knowingly 334 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and intentionally breaking or laws. You know, Like, those are 335 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: not the people I want in the United States, because 336 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: then those are the people, in my opinion, who are 337 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: either going to take more from the system than they 338 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: put in or they're going to be breaking other laws, 339 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: right Like, these are not people who are willing to 340 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: go along with law and order and abide by the process. 341 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: So these are just not people I want in my 342 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: country to begin. 343 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: With, well, and to act like five thousand some you 344 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: know Dominicus number please, that's like what a million and 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: a half people a year? 346 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: How I mean? So basically you're just rubber stamping with 347 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: bidens should be doing. 348 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe there won't be two million they'll be just 349 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: one point five million. 350 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 3: Well, thanks Republicans for I mean, I hope that my way. 351 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I meant five thousand in general, not per day, which 352 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: is what five thousand per day is what the Langford 353 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: bill or you know what Langford was pushing. 354 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 355 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't want I don't think until until we get 356 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: we deport a lot of people. We should just shut 357 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: down the border, saying it's all got to be legal 358 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: immigration and nothing else, because we have already we have 359 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: enough people that have come in the last four years. 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: That that's enough. Forever we've we've we've done it. 361 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm of the belief we should streamline or 362 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: legal immigration as well and bring people into the country 363 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: that you know are going to be a net benefit 364 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: to the nation as a whole. But that's the conversation 365 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: is very far away because we're having Republicans. We have 366 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate right now defending five thousand per day. 367 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: So I think that conversation is, you know, way in 368 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: the future, maybe never, but. 369 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: I think Trump comes in the Republican Senate, uh changes 370 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: on its focus. They're not going to be talking about 371 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: the same stuff that I mean they're letting Joe Biden lead. 372 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: Them by the nose. 373 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: If they're if they're talking about that, Joe Biden should 374 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: be gone. If we don't allow we don't set them 375 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: up for you know, victory in the end. 376 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: I just worry about all these indictments. I don't I 377 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know how that you should. 378 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: Worry about it. It was a strategy. 379 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's no, it's not an accident that they 380 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: realize there's no way that Joe Biden's gonna win unless 381 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: we put the President Trump at jail. 382 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: So now we're going to turn them into a criminal. 383 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: If that strategy is successful, then it's over. I mean, 384 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: we are no longer free. They'll they're going to do 385 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: it to me. There anybody that speaks out and challenges puts, 386 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: puts pressure on any liberal Democrat, then they'll just put 387 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: us in jail. And if that is a way, If 388 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: if they can do that, because you're trying to serve 389 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: your country, we're done. It won't If they can do 390 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: that to him, it's going to happen to all of us. 391 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: And I'm an example of them trying to do it 392 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: to me, so I know how they operate. They've turned 393 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: it into the legal warfare, and they use liberal judges 394 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: in liberal counties with liberal juries. Where you have it 395 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: looks like you have no chance. And I'm going through 396 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: the same thing, and it's incredibly challenging. 397 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: But it's also like, what is wrong are we in America? 398 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: What happened to our country that this type of stuff 399 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: can have to happen to people who are just trying 400 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: to serve their state or their country. 401 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm asking myself that every day. 402 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: I can honestly tell you I have felt often like 403 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: I live since I've been Attorney General that I live 404 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: in It's very similar to being in Germany during the thirties, 405 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: because every time you turn around as a Republican leader, 406 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: if you're trying to push the envelope and keep this 407 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: country free, then they are investigating you at every level possible, 408 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: and they are trying to put you in prison. And 409 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, how is this different than that? How is 410 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: this different than being in Venezuela? How is it different 411 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: than being in detalitarian countries? We're moving very close to that. 412 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: If you can do that to President Trump, and you 413 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: can do it to me, and you can do it 414 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: to other Republican leaders that are actually trying to speak 415 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: out and hold the line on our freedom. 416 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: Well, it certainly a scary time, and you know, hopefully 417 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Republicans prevail the selection cycle because you know, I don't 418 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: want to know what the country looks like if we don't. 419 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, I'm not afraid. I don't 420 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: want to be afraid. I don't think anybody should be afraid. 421 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: That's how they win. 422 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: If we're afraid they win, that means we're all like, well, 423 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to give money to this person, because. 424 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: Then I might get investigated by you know, the irs 425 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: or this. 426 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: And so if we start playing that game on our 427 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: set right now, there's too many of us for them 428 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: to win. We have the majority, the people that want freedom, 429 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: that want opportunity, that want a free country. 430 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: We're the majority. 431 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Until what happened to Jeremy is those people shut up 432 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: because they were afraid. 433 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: Of the you know, the the ruling class. 434 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: And if we let that happen here and we act 435 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: like we're afraid, they'll beat us. 436 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I agree, Well, we'll keep having these sorts of interviews 437 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: on this podcast. Attorney General will keep up the fight. 438 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate what you're doing in Texas, and we appreciate 439 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: you taking the time to come on the show. 440 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you. I really appreciate it. I love what 441 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: you're doing. 442 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: That was Ken Paxson, the Attorney General of Texas. He's 443 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: a busy guy right now, obviously a lot of activity 444 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: out of the states. We appreciate him making the time 445 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: for the show. 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