1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: dot Com. The Giants part of the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of the Giant Huddle podcast. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Lance Medal with you as we are continuing to break 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: down the two thousand twenty two draft class. The Giants 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: had three fifth round picks and with the one forty 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: seven overall selection, they took defensive lineman d J. Davidson 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: out of Arizonta State and to get more into Davidson 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: were now joined by his head coach at Arizona State, 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: also former NFL player and head coach, Herm Edwards. Coach 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate the time you coach DJ for four seasons 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: with the Sun Devils. What did you see in terms 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: of his development from two thousand eighteen to the present, Well, 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: his maturity obviously um his ability to really learn the 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: position and become a pretty good technician at his trade. 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Has a lot of natural talent. Light on the seat. 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Uh understands uh blocking, Uh, you can fight through double teams. Uh. 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Good getting off the ball. Uses his hands very well 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: to shed and to run down the line of scrimtage 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: to make plays. So he really made himself a complete player. 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: There was a guy in front of him, Ran who 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: got drafted by Cincinnati. UM that I think he kind 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: of he watched a little bit. But then after Rand left, 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: he was the guy. You know, he had to be 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: the guy to step in and UH really did a 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: nice job for us last couple of seasons. Well, and 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: speaking of stepping up, coach, I think what jumps out 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: about this past season two thousand twenty one. He put 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: up career high numbers in terms of tackles and tackles 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: for a law So how much was that a product 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: of what you were talking about, more of an opportunity 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: or him really taking the next step in terms of 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: his run defense. Well, I think both. We we changed 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and we changed the system a little bit and went 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: to a four man front a little bit more. We 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: were three three five before. UM. This allowed him to 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: get off the ball, UH and and to make plays 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, be a disruptor, and that's what 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: we wanted our d line to do. UH. Coast Rodriguez, 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: who was an assistant with Minnesota Vikings. It's been our offensive, 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: our defensive line coach last couple of seasons, and I 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of those things, um that he brought 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Uh, our guys really grasp and and really 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, got better doing it. From what I understand, 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: you played him at both interior gaps within your defensive front. 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: He obviously has been known as one of the best 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: run defending lineman at least on the West Coast. What 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: do you credit to why he's had a knack for 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: that specific facet of his game. I just think some 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: guys just have that have that sense of when you 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: can feel blocks and understand blocking schemes. Uh. You know, 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: he he understood that. He was very good and splitting 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: double teams and um, avoiding that and getting penetration in 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: the back. Heere. You know, that's what we wanted our 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: guys to do on the D line. We really wanted 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to get off on the ball, play on the other 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: side of the line of scrimmage. And he could do 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: that because he had power, uh, and he had great balance. 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Not on the ground a lot, And that's what you 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: want to see what defensive line, you know, want guys 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: on the ground a lot. And you know he was 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: always on his feet, light on his feet, and really 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: within that five yard box, was very quick and very active. 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: When we talk about run defenders, I think the big 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: question that always comes up is do they have the 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: potential to help in terms of the pass rushing department? 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: And as you can attest to, his sacked numbers don't 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: necessarily jump off the page. And I'm sure part of 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: that was scheme and how you utilized him. But what 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: type of an upside do you think he has in 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: terms of getting to the quarterback on the NFL level 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: or at least assisting other guys in that department. Well, 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: I think if you can, if you can warn a 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: double team, obviously, um, then you're gonna free someone else up. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: But but I do believe this, at times you're gonna 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: get some one on one matchup with the guards, uh 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: and maybe even the separate At times you can to 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: use you and you've gotta be able to win those, 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and that's gonna really separate you, uh, whether it's in 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: college or professional football. And that's a that's a separation 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: right there is Uh, as we know, you have to 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: stop the run, and once you stop the run, you 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: have to you have to get home, especially when you 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: can get home before guys. I mean that's uniqueness. When 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: you have four guys up front, they can get to 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback, you can do a lot on the back 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: end of your defense. And uh, I think he's a 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: guy if you get some one on one opportunities. Uh, um, 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: he can take advantage of those. Well. Speaking of getting 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: after the quarterback and being a disruptive player, I think 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: former Giant Antonio Pierce coach falls under that label. And 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: you certainly are very familiar with him because he served 93 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: as your defensive coordinator before he joined the Raiders and 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: as a result, DJ had an opportunity to work very 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: closely with him. The fact that he was exposed to Antonio, yourself, 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, all individuals that have NFL connections and experience. 97 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: What does that bode for him as he now makes 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: the adjustment to the NFL himself. Well, he's seen it before, 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: he's heard lingo, he's heard the language. Um. Uh, he 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: understands how to process it. Um. We meet that way, 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: we practice that way. Uh. We run an NFL style defense. 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And I think any guy 103 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: that uh, you know leaves here will have that somewhat 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: of an an advantage in the fact that he knows 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: how it works. You know, we had a pretty good 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: class of guys due to COVID coming back. He happened 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: to be one of them. But I think this season 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: we've got four guys drafted. Six of the guys signed 109 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: contracts Office Football team. Most of them are defensive players. Uh. 110 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, we had two corners, uh, DJ and another 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: one of our alignment as well, so uh, you know, 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: in a linebacker. So we had five guys on defense, 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: Uh that ended up signing contracts in the National Football League. Coach, 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: you brought up the COVID factor, and I think what's 115 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: also interesting about DJ's progression at the collegiate level is 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: not only did he have to deal with that challenge, 117 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: but he read shirted two thousand seventeen before you arrived, 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and then he missed the final five games from what 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: I understand because of an ankle injury. What was it 120 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: like for him to have to overcome some of those 121 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: early challenges to just prove that he's durable enough to 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: stay on the field. Well, you make the point, and 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: that's what we talked about. Your availability, and that's what 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: people want to see. Are you available? And in anything 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: in life, you have to be available, and especially in 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: football because there's only so many reps and there's only 127 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: only so many opportunities, and if you're not available, you know, 128 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: I've always told players the thing about the game of football, Um, 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: your resume is what you what you put on the grass, 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: and uh, that's what people look at at your resume. 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: And so the more availability you have, the better resume 132 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you can write. And so he understands that well. And 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: the other aspect of also being a productive football player, 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: to your point, is availability, but also maturity, which is 135 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: what you were alluding to earlier. I think what a 136 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of people may not realize is DJ, given the 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: fact that he had been in college for a number 138 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: of years, is going to be a twenty five year 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: old rookie. And he's also married already. So in terms 140 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: of how he's gone about his business off the field, 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: what does that do to position himself to handle some 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: of the stresses that come that you can attest to 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: in being a professional football player. Well as you as 144 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: you as you mentioned, um, you know, socially, I mean 145 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's he's a you know, he's a husband. 146 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean he gets that part already. He's done that already. 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: And so and That's the comforting thing for him is 148 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: that he understands, now this is a profession, that that 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: he is trying to make a living doing it, and 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be focused on that. And I think he's 151 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: he's well focused. Guys who said he's mature, he's twenty 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: five years old. He's not a young guy. So he 153 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: understands that this is a great opportunity for him to 154 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: to to set his life in a way that, um, 155 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of guys dream about doing well. And on 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: a related note to that, in terms of his maturity, 157 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure as he developed as a college player, 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: you certainly turned to him from a leadership component. What 159 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: was his presence like in the locker room and how 160 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: much did his teammates feed off of him from what 161 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: you observed even off the field, Well, he had he 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: had great respect from his teammates and you mentioned it 163 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: because he had been here. Uh And um, he's a 164 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: guy that you know, he's not a raw rock guy. 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: But when he speaks, people listen, and that's the most 166 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: important thing. And he chooses his times he has to speak. 167 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: And there will be times I would nudge you and say, look, 168 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: you gotta get those guys going on the series and 169 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: got a coach and you know that there was words 170 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: of encouragement. Uh, And he's kind of like, yeah, when 171 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: he speaks, everybody listens because he doesn't speak a lot, 172 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: but when he speaks, you know people saying, Okay, he's 173 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: about to say something. Well, and you've been around coach 174 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a lot of football players, both his teammates and is 175 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: coaching throughout your career. How unique is that? Or I 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: guess how much should you not overlook a player even 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: though he may be relatively quiet? Should because sometimes those 178 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: are the scary guys I don't see a lot and 179 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they do say something. And 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: so I just think every player has his own way 181 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: of doing things. And I think that's that's the greatness 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of a football team, is that we we all understand 183 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: everyone has different personalities and now by how they go 184 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: about doing things. But players know who the good players are. 185 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing about the game of football. It doesn't 186 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: take very long to figure out who who the guys are. 187 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys for us on last year. 188 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to experience a premier hospitality experience 189 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: watching Giants games, world class concerts in two as a 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: Giant Sweet partner, limited full season locations are available, or 191 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: plays a deposit for individual games called e n YG 192 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: of his a Giants dot com slash suites for more information. Well, 193 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: and speaking of who the guys are, I brought up, 194 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, Antonio Piers simply because he has 195 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: a connection to the Giants organization. When DJ met the media, 196 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: he had mentioned that Antonio didn't necessarily talk a lot 197 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: with him and his teammates about being a Giant, but 198 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: did more often than not coach show his own film 199 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: he said, to use as a teachable tool. How much 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: did you notice that and how much have you encourage 201 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: your coaches who have reached the NFL level to use 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: that so that these college players who want to get 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: to that level can understand, Hey, they're living in and 204 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: experiencing it up close and personal with somebody. You know. 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: We do that in every in every room really, UM 206 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: offensive as well. I mean a lot of our system 207 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: the same way on offense and defense and and special teams. 208 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: UM coached slogans becally in coach green Bay for for 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: quite new years. Got a lot of guys on both 210 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: sides of involved that have been involved in the league, 211 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: and we try to show them examples of this is 212 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: what the NFL does. We're doing the same thing. You know, 213 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: it's all the same, The players are the same. And 214 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: when you have systems that match, why wouldn't you do that? 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: That motivates young guys when they watch that well, and 216 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: in terms of his potential down the road, which is 217 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: what you were just hitting on, so that they've seen 218 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: it perhaps on film being done by players that have 219 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: reached that level, where do you see his ceiling coach, 220 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: in terms of what he can do as he now 221 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: reaches the NFL, Well, I think the level of competition 222 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden is either right, the playing field 223 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: is going to be a leading and how you deal 224 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: with that that competition of your opponent as well as 225 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: your team. He's trying to make the team right. So 226 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: all those things now are are are big you know 227 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: you you know when the NFL is that I always 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: tall cast. The NFL's a unique game because in college 229 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: they graduate. In the NFL, you got to take somebody's job. 230 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: That's certainly a noticeable difference. And speaking of competition and 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: players that he's going to be exposed to. I'm curious 232 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: your perspective on somebody that you've seen up close and 233 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: personal in the Pac twelve because the Giants with the 234 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: fifth overall pick, coach took Cavon Thibodeaux. Now, from what 235 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: I believe, you did not play ore Agon the last 236 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: two years, but you played them in twenty nineteen, so 237 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: he certainly has been a presence in the conference and 238 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: for the Ducks in that game. What jumped out to 239 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: you about him when you prepared to play him or 240 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: have watched him from Afar? Oh, you know, his his 241 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: his athleticism, he has all the attributes. Hee, He's long, 242 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: he's very explosive. Um, he can he can wreck the 243 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: game if you don't pay attention, right, he can come 244 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: off the edge. Um, you know he can power Russia 245 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: at times. He can. He can use his speed to 246 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: come off the edge. He he has good bend, very 247 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: competitive player as well. So, um, you know it's good 248 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: football player. There's no doubt about it. In that league. Look, 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: it's you gotta you gotta rush the quarterback. Yes, at 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, and if you 251 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: got a guy on the edge that you feel like 252 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: he can he can warn a double team or if 253 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: you don't double team and he's gonna he's gonna teach you, then, um, 254 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: that's a plus for you. On defense, you need those 255 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: game records, as you mented, especially in this league when 256 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks get rid of the football so quickly. If 257 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: you can't get home, it's gonna be a very long day. 258 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: It'll also be interested coach. Going back to DJ's personality, 259 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: because Cavon, as I'm sure you've seen from a far, 260 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: he's a very vocal guy, loves the big time market, 261 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: whereas DJ comes from the opposite end of the spectrum. 262 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: So how those two guys, Mesh, I think we'll be 263 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: fascinating in New York. It really will be in Um, 264 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: as you said, New York is is a place where 265 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: you know you're big in New York and there's no 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: in between. You're really good or there's the other side 267 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: of it right well, And if there's anybody that can 268 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: attest to that, it's certainly the former head coach of 269 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, because you've been there, you've done it, 270 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: you've certainly lived that. He is HERM Edwards, the head 271 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: coach of Arizona State. He coached d J. Davidson for 272 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: all four seasons with the Sun Devils. As Davidson joins 273 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: the Giants as one of their teams three fifth round 274 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: picks in two thousand twenty two, coach can't thank you know, 275 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate the time of the insight. Best of luck 276 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: navigating the off season, and best of luck moving forward. 277 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Thank you my pleasure. Thanks again to coach 278 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: Herm Edwards joining us here on the Giant Huttle podcast, 279 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: which you could find on Giants dot com, the mobile app, 280 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: and your favorite podcast platforms. We were continuing to break 281 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: down the two thousand twenty two draft class and the 282 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Giants had two fourth round picks. With the one twelfth 283 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: overall selection, they took San Diego State tight end Daniel 284 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Bellinger and to get more into Bellinger and what he'll 285 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: bring to New York, were now joined by his head 286 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: coach for the last two seasons, San Diego State headman 287 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Brady Hoke. Coach, you got a Lance Meadow here on 288 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Greatly appreciate the time, Hope Bull as well. 289 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Our things on your end things are you know, it's uh, 290 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: it's busy as your show. We've got recruiting going on, 291 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: guys out trying to find the next Dan Bellinger. Indeed, 292 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, you have quite devoid 293 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: to fill. And let's start there, because I think what's 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: very unique about Bellinger is his blocking prowess and how 295 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you utilized him in that regard. What made him so 296 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: suitable to be that extra layer for the offensive line. Yeah, 297 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: I think number one, Uh, his toughness, and we pride 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: ourselves about being tough, being physical as a football team 299 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, on both sides of the bone 300 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: in the kicking game and and Dan, you know I 301 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: shared I tried to recruit him over the defensive side 302 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: of the ball, and part of that was, you know, 303 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: the toughest that he has, uh skill set as far 304 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: as fundamentally uh and techniques of blocking anth line at 305 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: point of attack. We were, you know, a big twelve 306 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: personnel team and uh he uh you know, he fits 307 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: everything we needed from him, whether it be on the 308 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: law line or off the line. Well, and with respect 309 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: to the versatility that you just talked about in terms 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: of utilizing him on the line or off the line, 311 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: how much did that play into from what I understand 312 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: your offense obviously was a very run heavy scheme. So 313 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: it seems as if based on what he was able 314 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: to do for you, he was really a big tone 315 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: setter in that regard. Yeah, no doubt, I mean, you know, 316 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: he uh uh was obviously we want to we want 317 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: to control the game by running the football, and he 318 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: was a big part of that and a big part 319 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: of uh uh you know, from a leverage standpoint, and 320 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: just himself putting himself in great Biden positions where he 321 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: could control the line of skirmin. Now, from what I 322 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: also understand, I believe you utilized him a little bit 323 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: at the fullback position because he indicated that when he 324 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: spoke to the New York media. How much did you 325 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: use him in that position? And how much do you 326 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: think that could apply to maybe what the Giants try 327 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: to tap in in addition to his tight end rome. Yeah, 328 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt, you know, and we 329 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: used we used him from a you know, King set 330 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: or those kind of sets. But uh, you know, with 331 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: him off the line of scrimmage, he could put himself 332 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: in position insert into uh you know, just fundamentally running 333 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: the isolation play and trying to give movement and then 334 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: taken on linebackers. So, uh, you know, you look at 335 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: what Dan did for us, said the power play um 336 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: which was a big part of what we did, the 337 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: counter and him either be in the rap or be 338 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: in the lead. Uh. Really really excited about what he 339 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: did for us. Sixty eight career receptions for seven hundred 340 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: seventy one yards and five touchdowns in his career. When 341 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: most people look at those numbers, they say, well, in 342 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: today's NFL, somebody could do that in one season alone 343 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: as a posed to a career. Why perhaps do his 344 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: numbers coach in terms of the receiving game not necessarily 345 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: tell the whole story with respect to what his upside 346 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: is in that regard on the NFL level. Yeah, I 347 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt, you know lands he Uh. 348 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: I thought him coming back uh was was huge and 349 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: we had talked about when he said he was gonna 350 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: he was gonna come back and do all that we 351 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: talked about, uh, run after catch, and I thought that 352 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: was one, uh, one place that he really really improved 353 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: himself from the twenty season to the one season. I 354 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: thought he did a nice job. I thought his coach survived. 355 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Solute did a nice job, you know with the fundamentals 356 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: of it. But I thought, run after catch. Uh, you know, 357 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: there's some some plays in there that he does an 358 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable up, you know, taken on the tacklers, but at 359 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: the same time, uh using uh, you know, his athleticism, 360 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: uh to make a short game into a big game. 361 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Giant season tickets are on sale now for the season. 362 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: In addition to ticket savings, membership benefits include access to 363 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: exclusive events, experiences, pre sales, and more. 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Well, and on a related note to that, 367 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: the other thing that I think at least jumped out 368 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: to me with respect to maybe his capacity at the 369 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: next level and how he was utilized on the collegiate 370 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: level is his frame allowing him to make contested catches. 371 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: In addition to your point about him running after the catch, 372 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: why is his frame at six four two fifty three 373 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: approximately ideal to go up and win those jump balls? 374 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I think part of that is always, uh, your what 375 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: God gave you, and and your athleticism and all that 376 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: your timing. Uh, he was a basketball player through high school, 377 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: so I think that has something to do with it. 378 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at Dan his competitiveness, 379 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's a competitor and he's gonna be physical 380 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: and uh, he's gonna have a mindset that you know 381 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: those or whatever you want to call him, he's gonna 382 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: uh fight like hell uh to uh come down with 383 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: with the football. Well, and on a related note to 384 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: what he brought to the receiving game, one of the 385 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: things he prides himself on, at least that he noted 386 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: when he spoke with the New York media is the 387 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: fact that he just had three drops in his career. 388 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: And as we were just talking about, for somebody that 389 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily heavily involved in the passing game and put 390 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: up monster numbers, it seemed as if coach he took 391 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: advantage every time the ball came into his area. What 392 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: was it about. He's a fish and see an execution 393 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: that made him a very well respectable target when you 394 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: decided to go to him in key moments. Yeah, I 395 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: think number one, you know, he comes down to competitiveness 396 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and uh, the competitor running correct routes, you know, and 397 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: I think that from uh, you know, your your your release, 398 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: from a line of scrimmage. I think all those things 399 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: are things that uh goes back to Dan and Dan's 400 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: number one leadership, his expectations and standards that he has 401 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: for himself. Uh. Really, you know, he is one of 402 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I've been coached a long time and he's one of 403 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: those guys that you know, you wish you had more 404 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: of them over the years. Well, and I think that 405 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: that was on full display coach. What you're talking about 406 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: in terms of leadership, the fact that he did serve 407 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: as a team captain in two thousand twenty one. I'm 408 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: assuming part of that is involved in terms of teammates 409 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: voting on that. So I think that says a lot. 410 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: But what jumped out to you in terms of his 411 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: attitude on and off the field that specifically his teammates 412 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: were able to feed off of. Yeah, I think number one, Um, 413 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: when when you come to our practice, when when you 414 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: saw him as far as when that whistle blows, his leadership, 415 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, and the standards and the culture that we have, 416 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: and part of that is his mental and physical toughness 417 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: that he has. Uh. And then uh, just the way 418 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: he would. He would perform every day, you know, whether 419 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: it be in the weight room, whether it be out 420 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: on the football field or in our condition he always 421 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: uh seemed to be when in the casts or uh 422 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: outlifting guys or whatever it was. But you know, he 423 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: created value in front of his teammates and that's why 424 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: he was voted to captain and coach. Speaking of value, 425 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I think this goes back to what we were talking 426 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: about earlier. I think you can mention that in today's NFL, 427 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: even to a certain degree on the college level, the 428 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: blocking tight end is almost a lost art because it 429 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: seems as if most tight ends in this day and 430 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: agent football want to be involved in the pass a game, 431 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: and some of them are even considered pseudo wide receivers. 432 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: So the fact that he's dedicated himself to a position 433 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: that once again is maybe becoming a little bit archaic 434 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: for the lack of a better phrase, what does that 435 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: mean in terms of his value in what he can 436 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: actually bring to the Giants Because he's doing something that 437 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: most tight ends in the NFL are not asked to do, 438 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: or some you could argue, don't even necessarily have the 439 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: desire to do. Anymore. Yeah, there there's no doubt. There's uh. 440 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: Uh you know, when you look offensively at the National 441 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Football League and uh you know what people are trying 442 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: to obtain and what they're trying to do, and the 443 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: uh you know, obviously the Giants a great organization and 444 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: and uh they want an online tight end uh to 445 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: be part of what they're doing. And and I think 446 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: that clearly is uh stretching the dann strength. And I 447 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: think obviously they're gonna be really really happy about what 448 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: they have well, and the San Francisco forty Niners certainly 449 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: are happy with a guy by the name of George Kittle. 450 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: And the reason I bring him up is when Daniel 451 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: spoke to the New York media after he was drafted, 452 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: he said, one of the guys he tries to model 453 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: his game after is Kittle. Now, you've been exposed to 454 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: a lot of tight ends on the college and a 455 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: little bit on the NFL level. I'm not saying that 456 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be the next George Kittle, but how 457 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: crazy is it? And maybe not that much of a 458 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: stretch to say. Kittle was a fifth round pick. Bellinger's 459 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick and was mainly known as a 460 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: block a kiddle in college that there's room for him 461 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: to continue to grow even more on the NFL level. No, 462 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: I I don't think there's any doubt about it. And uh, 463 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that is probably a good comparison. And uh, 464 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, with Dan, uh, he'll just continue to improve. 465 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: He'll he'll get better, He'll he'll pick up systems and 466 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: and what the offense is trying to accomplish. I think 467 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: everybody will be real excited about how he will fit in. Coach. 468 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: He took part in the Senior Bowl, which is obviously 469 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: another area for players to showcase their skill set when 470 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: they're being put under the microscope with NFL representatives all 471 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: across the board. I'm just curious, from your perspective and 472 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: your knowledge of that event, how much do you think, 473 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: in addition to him taking part in the combine and 474 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: everything else that comes in the draft process, that getting 475 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: there to the Senior Bowl and taking part in it 476 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: helped him be him even more of a valuable commodity 477 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: in the eyes of NFL teams such as the Giants. Yeah, 478 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a chance for them to 479 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: get a federal look. So I think him, you know, 480 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: Obviously there's some guys who uh decline or some guys 481 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: who don't get uh invited. But I think with Dan, 482 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's always been a guy who's super competitive 483 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: and wants to be uh once once the uh improve 484 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: himself and whatever way he can. And and this, you know, 485 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: it was also improven where people saw him and looked 486 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: at him as a uh uh tied in in the 487 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: National Football League. Well, versatility is something that certainly comes 488 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: to mind when you talk about Daniel Bellinger. Now, before 489 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: I let you go speaking of that topic, I want 490 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: to circle back, coach to where we started this conversation 491 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned which certainly piqued my ears and I'm sure 492 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: our listeners the fact that you were trying to convey 493 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: enced him to play defensive end when you took over 494 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: as the headman. So if Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator 495 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: of the Giants, and Andre Patterson the defensive line coach, 496 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: if they perhaps want to pick up where you left 497 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: off and weren't able to succeed, what tips would you 498 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: give them if they want to sell him on the 499 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: idea of being a true two way player. Well, I 500 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: think i'd be awesome and uh I just like that, 501 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, Dan will do whatever they all want him 502 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: to do and winks at football coach and uh coach 503 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: Patterson vote, but uh, I think you your tight end 504 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: coach and your offense is gonna be really really excited 505 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: about what they have. And Dan Bellinger, well, that's a 506 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: big reason why they invested a fourth round pick in him. 507 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger going to the Giants with the one hundred 508 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: twelfth overall selection after a very productive career at San 509 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Diego State. He is the head coach of the Aztecs. 510 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: The headman, Brady Hoke, coach, can't thank you enough greatly, 511 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the time of the insight, look forward to getting 512 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: to know Daniel and what he'll bring to the Giants, 513 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: and best of luck to you and your staff moving 514 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: forward at San Diego State. Thanks so much for joining me. 515 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: Thanks laughs, and good luck to y'all. My pleasure. This 516 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: is the latest edition of the Giant Subtle podcast, which 517 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: you can catch on giants dot com, the mobile app, 518 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: and your favorite podcast platforms.