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Speaker 1: You know, we try, we try. No, it's it's we've

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Speaker 4: It was just it was a unique sound that you

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Speaker 1: It's weird. Could be aliens, could be ALIENSU So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of toads, Yeah, a lot of horny toads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, little lizards. Those are cool. You know you pick

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You tried to like get in your like under

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give me.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, what are some of the challenges that you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the challenge I expected was walking

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Speaker 4: You've been getting after it, no, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like I, you know, I

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00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: wanted to, you know, coming out here right like I

437
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,119
Speaker 3: wanted to. You know, we could have easily been like, man,

438
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,760
Speaker 3: let's go to some jam up private spot with no

439
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 3: hunters and no hunt pressure and you know, get one

440
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 3: on the ground, and we could have easily done that, right,

441
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,439
Speaker 3: But I think that, you know, I always for this

442
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,439
Speaker 3: to be. I had no plans, you know, to do

443
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,679
Speaker 3: I don't have really, you know, I had was gonna

444
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 3: be doing an el hunt later in the year that

445
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,880
Speaker 3: ended up falling through, and then this, you know, fill

446
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 3: in my lap when when Steve reached out about a

447
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 3: month ago, I guess, and I was ecstatic to be

448
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 3: able to go out here on public land and and

449
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 3: really get after it. You know, I'm I'm in this

450
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 3: for the experience, you know, I'm not. I'm not just

451
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 3: in it to get out here. And I mean, obviously

452
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 3: the end goal is the same for everybody, right, but

453
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 3: you just want to have that extra sense of you know,

454
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 3: I really put the work in and and really earned

455
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 3: this thing. And we've come really close a couple of

456
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 3: times out here. And yes, I guess things that I

457
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't have expected. Obviously I hadn't you know, I hadn't

458
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 3: had any experience, you know, hearing an elk bugle that

459
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 3: you know, right next to me pretty much that was

460
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 3: that was pretty awesome. I was not I was not

461
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 3: expecting it to be that awesome.

462
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 2: You know.

463
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 3: I was interested in like understanding how the calling worked,

464
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, because obviously I am familiar with hunting turkeys

465
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 3: and how that calling works. But me and Jeremy were

466
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 3: talking a little bit about a few days ago how

467
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: you don't, you know, utilize in turkey hunting, you don't

468
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 3: really utilize the male call very much at all, and

469
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 3: there's obviously some.

470
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: People that do. I've never seen it be really effective

471
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: or help.

472
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: I don't know anybody that's like, man, that's my secret is,

473
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, doing a gobble, you know, it just doesn't

474
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 3: really if anything, it just maybe will elicit another gobble.

475
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: But it's just it seems like here the female call

476
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 3: is a little bit less. It seems like to be

477
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: used a lot less. You know, it's almost more like

478
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 3: a finesse move ye to get them to kind of

479
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 3: close that. You know, it's so crazy, Like there's been

480
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 3: a few different scenarios where I feel like we're almost

481
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: on you know, we've got one that's breaking to us,

482
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, and then you're obviously set up behind us

483
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: and you're you're trying to figure out what this particular

484
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 3: you know, animal wants to hear, right like, either does

485
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: you do you want him to think that there's another

486
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: bull that's on cows or you just being an aggressive

487
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: bull that's stepping into his spots.

488
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: It's been it's been interesting. I was anxious to.

489
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: See how you how you navigated those situations, and that

490
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 3: was that was cool to watch. So that was something

491
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: that maybe I wasn't expecting to be so intricate, right

492
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: Like I was expecting it to just be like, well, you

493
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: just hit a you just bugle all the time, and

494
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: it's the same thing all the time. It's yes, that's

495
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: my what's kind of my preconceived notion of it a

496
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: little bit, you know.

497
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: Where it's like you get a gobble, You're like, I'm

498
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: just gonna go ninety nine percent yelps. You know that's

499
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: that's really what I had to do. Where here we're

500
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: trying to make a decision, you know, and a lot

501
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: of times we make that decision based on his bugle,

502
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: like you know, and you're starting to pick it up like, oh,

503
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: that's a big one. Yeah, for sure, that's a big one,

504
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: for sure. And then we just assumed the big ones

505
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: got cows right, right, and so now we're like, we're

506
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: probably not going to pull him off with a cow call,

507
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: right the way things are going, And so then we

508
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: got to get in tight and use bagles versus like,

509
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna go after this one. We think it might

510
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: be a satellite. Let's just try cow calls and see

511
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: if that gets them going. Then if not, we might

512
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: have to sprinkle a beagle and then see if that

513
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: gets them. So you picked up on that real real quick,

514
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's kind of the same thing

515
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: that we're doing. And there's no perfect science. I don't

516
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: care how many years we've been out here listening to

517
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: these things. There's still a little bit of guesswork and

518
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: you got to kind of you know, fact check your

519
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: your guests.

520
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: But you do it and then you're like that didn't

521
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: work out. Maybe I should have call called yep. Maybe

522
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: I should have begled instead. I mean, you just you

523
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: just got to start with something, yep.

524
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: And then some of the other challenges we've experienced public land,

525
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, we're not on some private honey hole.

526
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: We are. We've had people mess us up, whether.

527
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: More than once. You guys have had people mess you

528
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: up more than once. I mean we had it this morning, yep.

529
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: And see the directly indirectly last night we went back

530
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: into what it's been our good night spot and we

531
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: get in there a little bit to where a non

532
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 1: motorized trail at this point, and we're like, somebody's been

533
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: in here on since we were there last night.

534
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And then this morning, man, I feel

535
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: like we I feel like everybody kind of thought that

536
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: it was about to happen. I mean, we had the

537
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: perfect setup, the perfect wind, the perfect scenario, and you know,

538
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 3: we got this bullworking the ridge just above us, and

539
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 3: he's making it. He's going in reverse to try to

540
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: get down this ridge to come up to you on

541
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: the opposite ridge, and then we just hear, you know,

542
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: a guy playing a phone noise.

543
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: What we call those Doug flues.

544
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: We just heard this brutal, brutal bugle. It was awful.

545
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: And there was.

546
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: Two guys up on that ridge, yup, pushing that elk

547
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: and their wind was just going right to him and

548
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: he took off.

549
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: Huh they had good.

550
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: Win for the elk. Yeah, okay, And that was like

551
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: we were reading that situation. I could hear that bull.

552
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: You guys were still trying to get set up. We

553
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: were far enough apart, it was brushing enough, which was

554
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: finally going to be a good setup. I couldn't see

555
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: you guys, and that bull was kind of working down

556
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: the ridge and I'm like, I got a call now,

557
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: or he's going to get past us again? Call and

558
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: he's he's hot, right he was. He was bugling at

559
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: cow calls, bugling at bugles, and he comes to the

560
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: edge hammers at us twice and the next time we

561
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: hear him going away, which to me is like that

562
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: number one wasn't his natural path. He'd been coming down

563
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: that ridge all morning.

564
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: He didn't see us. Hint, windows we.

565
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: Had perfect win. So I'm like, well, what we realized

566
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: is we had a pretty big rock outcrop into this

567
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: canyon and he couldn't come down that. So what I

568
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: think he was doing he was going to go back

569
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: up to get so he could get down and whoop

570
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: our butt when he got in. He was going to

571
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: come up and see us. And about the last bugle

572
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: we heard, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is you know,

573
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: talking to Tyler. Tyler kind of hides in the bushes

574
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: back by me when we're calling. And looked at Tyler

575
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, this is going to happen, Like the

576
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: bull's going back, that's going to get him down in

577
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: that drainage. And next thing you hear is one of

578
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: the worst sounding cow calls. I'm like, gosh, dang, head

579
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: back to I just like laid bang my head into

580
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: a rock. I'm like, are you kidding me? And so

581
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, and then the bold beagles off goes down

582
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: ways and it's I'm not a I'm a jerk a

583
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: little bit, but I don't want to be a jerk,

584
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: but I want to like run my wind checker over

585
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: to these guys like that was never ever gonna work

586
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: for you. Ever, we had spent what the next we

587
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: got up a little earlier today, spent a little more

588
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: time walking in the dark, you know, headlamps on, slowly

589
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: picking our way so that the wind was going to

590
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: be no matter where those elk were, we're gonna have

591
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: good wind. And these guys rolling their side by side

592
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: right at daylight and come down completely like these guys

593
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: had to be thinking like, hey, hey, Roger, is that

594
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: one hitting you in the back. Yeah, let's go with the.

595
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: Elk then, like that's how that that's how that conversation

596
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 4: had to have went, like let's just we're gonna walk

597
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: straight at this elk with the wind.

598
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: You know. But what you did, what you.

599
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: Didn't see going on was me and Romero got down there,

600
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: set up, and Dave's behind us and and I'm.

601
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: He's like get you know, get ready.

602
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: We're like getting the spot and I'd put my arrow

603
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: in it freaking lighted, not goes off, it's just glowing.

604
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm like he's like, give me that arrow takes any

605
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: like puts in the grain and covering it up with dirt.

606
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: Put the next one in locked, knock lights up.

607
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: The other arrow, and we're like turning my boat and

608
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: he's trying to like jam. It was a mess, dude,

609
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: It was all.

610
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Finn figured out. Yeah, I was worried about letting you

611
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: to go ahead of me that far and what may

612
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: may happen?

613
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: It was good though. We were in a good spot.

614
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: It was we both thought it was gonna happen.

615
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: And the other thing that we were able to do

616
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: this morning is we had multiple bulls going, so we

617
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: always had if this doesn't work, our backup plan until

618
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: we had like options B C, which kept the morning going.

619
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: I'm still, I'm still kind of I'm still.

620
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: I've run myself through a couple of times like what

621
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: what happened to the one that was the one that

622
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: we thought originally was the one from last night who

623
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: was up that we were originally going after before we

624
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: heard the one behind us when we came back to

625
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: him and he was still working and he was we

626
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: thought he was moving to that drainage and he stopped.

627
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: It's like, where did he go? Never answered us? Where was?

628
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: Where could he have gone?

629
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Because that whole area they're in is just that open

630
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: meadow with those big pine trees in there.

631
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to give Luke any more ammunition us

632
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: against me, but if the route he was going, I

633
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: think those were those elk we smelled like thirteen feet

634
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: from the truck.

635
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: No, I figured they all right?

636
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: You were setting me up. I was all right, I

637
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: think that's what happened. He gave us one more buhgle

638
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: went down across that cannon, went right between right by

639
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: the rig somewhere. But the next I'm reading, I'm gonna,

640
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting into my bullet talk about whether Luke got

641
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: an elk or not. We still got a day left,

642
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: we got a night in the morning. But uh we may,

643
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: like I say, Luke passed. I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell

644
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the first part story. I'm gon let you tell that

645
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: first night story. We got on a group three bowls

646
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: not far from camp, kind of really slow played him

647
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: that morning. A bunch of that was the one. We

648
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: really did a bunch of zig zag and jumping over

649
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, ridge over ridge, you get that win right

650
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: got up there. I thought we kind of lost them

651
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: for a little bit. We smell out all of us

652
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: like you smell that. Let a little locate bigogle there

653
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: ninety yards in front of us, and so I backed up.

654
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: You guys went forward, and right away you guys could

655
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: see the elk right below a little raghorn. He did.

656
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: He saw him up like I was just even back

657
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: on to not see him.

658
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: So you guys saw those. We ended up after they

659
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: made me work for it a little bit, we finally

660
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: were able to call the little Raghorn into what thirty

661
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: three yards and Luke had made the decision. Uh just

662
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: let you know there was a bigger bowl in there.

663
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Maybe if it was the only boy, he would have

664
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: been mournings, but we had a good bowl there, which

665
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: you know.

666
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Let's and it was early, dude, it was the first

667
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: really first morning, so you're like, you.

668
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, let's let's get this big one.

669
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: And we're here and there hammering that day, you know,

670
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: like so we're like, okay, well we're in them, like

671
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: we're in here, they're in here thick. So you know

672
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: this isn't going to be take the first shot. Yeah, yeah,

673
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, And so that was it worked perfect.

674
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: And just to give everybody a little bit of idea

675
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: how we're calling these things. So our idea with some

676
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: of this more open country is to have me set

677
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: up fifty sixty seventy yards back and then these guys

678
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: if the wind we talk about this all the time,

679
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: the wind's hitting us maybe from the right to the left,

680
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, these guys will set up maybe to my left.

681
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: This one we got a little bit in a straight

682
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: line because we basically just had to drop where everything

683
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: really were. But our normal setup has been, all right,

684
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set back fifty sixty yards, you guys will

685
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: go forward and then maybe out to the down wind

686
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: side of me. If that elk comes in and wants

687
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: to get win that way, it pulls them right into

688
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: you guys. So that's kind of our setup. We get there.

689
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: We knew we can.

690
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: I can only call the ball or the bowl so

691
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: far before he's gonna win, you guys. He gets the

692
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: thirty three wins, and about that time, you guys bought

693
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: the bigger bull coming over on the same trail exactly,

694
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: and we can hear it and he's coming in just hot.

695
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, this is gonna work. Well, what happened

696
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: is that that raghorn that winded us goes down and

697
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: then kind of curls away. He's a little spooked. Well,

698
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: that bull, instead of staying on the same path that

699
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: raghorn decides to chase him away from his cows and

700
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of takes him up there. Well, they're up on

701
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: the ridge and he's still big and well, all of

702
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, that six point decides he's going to come

703
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: back in and' like, all right here it goes well,

704
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: the bulls coming into me calling not where your guys

705
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: is set up, and he gets to what sixty.

706
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: Three sixty three yards from us in forty.

707
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Forty forty two or something for me and the last

708
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: little pile of brush you went in. He was going

709
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: to pop out under fifty, but he catches you guys,

710
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: your you know, your guys wind again at fifty and

711
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: then kind of bolt doesn't really bolt out, just slowly

712
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: walks off.

713
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

714
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: We we took a nap for an hour and went

715
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: back at him, and we don't need to get in

716
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: too much details. We kind of walk smack dab into him,

717
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: did some barking back and forth. We were able to

718
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: kind of slow him down and almost save it, but

719
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: then he had a pesky cow that didn't really like

720
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: our situation. And basically eight of us, you know, it's

721
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: not just us four hunting right, We've got audio produce,

722
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: her meet eater producer, two camera guys. Uh, there's eight

723
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: of us standing in the middle of open did everything

724
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: we could to save it, but ultimately lost that one

725
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: and then we go we come back. I'm not going

726
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: to get into all that. The whole way back, we

727
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: just keep running to random.

728
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Bugles, I mean every bend in the road, and like

729
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: not you were It's not like you're like I want

730
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: to stop here and locate. It would just be like

731
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: we'd be walking into we just hammer one hundred and

732
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: fifty yards away.

733
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

734
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: I think the best part was was like, you know,

735
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: you come off of an unsuccessful set up, share a

736
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: little down right, and then a bull fires off and

737
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: it's like right back, Yeah, man, your back, guys, you're

738
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: ready again, let's set up and then you know it

739
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: doesn't work out. So you're walking down the road a little,

740
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: a little bummed, and then bull fires off. It's just

741
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: like rent and repeat all morning into well into the

742
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 4: early afternoon.

743
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Yep. And so we we mess around with those. So

744
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: we we keep telling I think the night before Luke's like, so,

745
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: how's these days ago? I said, we usually back in

746
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: camp by eleven ten eleven, Well after our long walkout

747
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we I got here.

748
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 5: It was.

749
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: Literally we're heading out at three thirty. I'm like, gees, no.

750
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Nap, He's coming off of a flight from Kansas deer

751
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: hunt where he wasn't sleeping, comes right into an now

752
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: count were like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna work.

753
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked worked.

754
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: So we go right back out to a little spot

755
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: we had been saving. We had got on some elk

756
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: prior to Luke being here and once again had an

757
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: illegal side by side mess that up. But we knew

758
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: these bulls were in here. They like it. And these

759
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: bulls seem to be on some sort of a cycle

760
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I haven't figured out yet, but they're kind of they're

761
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: there and then they're gone. They're there until we wanted

762
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: to go check that out. And I took a lot

763
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: of this blame originally because I'm I'm gonna take ownership

764
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: for me not spotting a bowl. We get in there,

765
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: we weren't walking more than five minutes, and we bust

766
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: the ball out of his bed right and I'm blaming

767
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: you guys because you guys are making fun of me

768
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: for jumping over logs.

769
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: Aping the whole time.

770
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like look at that guy in his

771
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: lengthy ass giraft legs or whatever he was saying, and oh.

772
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: There's a pre really good path through the logs and

773
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: he just Alps decides to just leap over all of them,

774
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, just yeah, power move.

775
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah it was he was trying to show.

776
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're bumping out there and we don't once again,

777
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: we haven't lowked. Did we locate this? We located this ball.

778
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: We get to a little rise right past that, We're like,

779
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little bit stupid, like just walked by

780
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: a bedded bowl. I'm gonna be able here before I

781
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: screw anything else up and pull hammers right around the corner.

782
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: No it's not him. Uh, we get we get kind

783
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: of check the wind. We're like, oh man, this it

784
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: can't work out better? Wins good. I'm gonna let you

785
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: take the story from here, though I don't want to. Jeremy.

786
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: I'll take you. I'll take I'll take it if you want.

787
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Hollo.

788
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: You know, I don't let Jeremy take it because I

789
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: feel like he's gonna explain it so much more eloquently.

790
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: How about we both take it?

791
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I go for it.

792
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: And you know, we set up we got fifty sixty

793
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: yards from from Phelps and have the wind in our

794
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: face and we're offset to Phelps's left, on.

795
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: A down slope, you know, yeah, already a decent little grade.

796
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: Were open, real open.

797
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: And that was the challenge, right, We already knew that

798
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: we were somewhat in the open, so we had very

799
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: few spots to draw if that bull didn't, in fact,

800
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: which he did, come to the call. But we set up,

801
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: we got comfortable, We got into a spot where we

802
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: thought we had enough cover. I you know, looking back

803
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: at it, I think it was the best spot we

804
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: could have had it.

805
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the only spot that there was.

806
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a handful of you know, small

807
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: and mature ponderosas just a little taller than us, but

808
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: you know, broke up our silhouette enough to where we

809
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 4: can we can try to make something happen. And Phelps

810
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: started hammering the calls and like clockwork, I mean, that

811
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: bull just came right into it like he had it on.

812
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Can I interject a little bit there? So we go

813
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: back to like what he's feeling. And this was one

814
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: of those good situations where it didn't matter if I buggled,

815
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: whether I cow called, whether I raked the tree, all

816
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: of them seemed to be working. So like this bulls

817
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: he's interested because it didn't. It wasn't one or the other.

818
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I like, this makes my job boo easier. Aways need

819
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: to you know, a call every minute or two.

820
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, yeah, And so then you know we're set up.

821
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: We can start seeing the bull coming down the hill.

822
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: No good bull. You know we got one one look

823
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: at him and you this was this was something.

824
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

825
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: I mean the second you step out, you're like, yeah,

826
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 3: for sure, yeah, no question, no question asked.

827
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

828
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: So then it's the game of like, well when do

829
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: we draw right, how how close? How far is he

830
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: before we have an opportunity to to really draw back

831
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: on him? And uh, I thought, I mean, I'll just

832
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: you know, I'll continue to take blame for it as well.

833
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: I thought, like there was a there was a clump

834
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: of trees, and I thought he would come behind him,

835
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: and that would be the same.

836
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: Thing, thinking the same thing. He came.

837
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 4: He came a completely different trajectory. He just he came

838
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: toward us, which is.

839
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: Weird because you're you're straight back yards walk them to us,

840
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: and we haven't made a sound.

841
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: It made a move.

842
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: The wind is still good. He comes into about thirty

843
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: seven yards and he comes to the last possible little

844
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: clump of trees that we could we could use to draw,

845
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, Luke draws and we just get busted.

846
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: You know, I've never seen somebody hold a bowl that

847
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 4: bow that long at full draw at that angle. I mean, Luke.

848
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: Luke was pointing to the ground at full draw, and

849
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: that bulls just kind of staring at us. He probably

850
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: held it there what seemed like twenty minutes, you know,

851
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: but it was a couple of minutes. Yeah, he stayed,

852
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: he stayed in that position. That bull was was locked

853
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: in on us. You know, Jason just hammered the calls

854
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: through everything in the kitchen sink at that bull.

855
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so what I'm thinking at that time is

856
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Luke needs an opportunity to lift his bow and get

857
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: it on target. And so I'm only forty yards away

858
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: from this elk, but he can't really see me. And

859
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 1: so I've got my stick in my hands, I'm raking

860
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: the tree. I'm beagling like I just wanted his eyes,

861
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: and he did for a little bits turned to me,

862
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: but he still had enough eyes on you guys that

863
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: you couldn't necessarily get the bow up.

864
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

865
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: And also there was no shot anyways where he was

866
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: even if the bow was up at that point used

867
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: to we still needed him to come across and around

868
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: because all we're looking at is those little trees. There's

869
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: no windows at all to get a shot through there.

870
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like it was never

871
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

872
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because from my spot, I'm trying to

873
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: like figure out what I guess it is wide open,

874
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, shoot nothing. But so, I mean, we've been

875
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: in this situation enough. The bull whirls and kind of

876
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: walks off and I at some point we call a

877
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: little bit more to him and he actually kind of

878
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: hooks back to me again.

879
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: Well before that, you know, he he got a little spooked,

880
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: and then he did the whole I'm gonna I'm gonna

881
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: bail right and then you're he pivoted to try to leave,

882
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: and then Jason called and the bull was able to stop,

883
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: and we we had a window. It was probably the

884
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: size of a basketball or something like that, that's what

885
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: it seemed like. And uh, he would It was essentially broadsided,

886
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: a little quartering away, but a good window. We could

887
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: have snuck one in there. And Luke tried to just

888
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: kind of veered off a little bit to try to

889
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: get it through there. And when he did that, the

890
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: bull walked and that's when he did that little jay

891
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: hook and and started coming to us. And by that

892
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 4: time he probably gained about twenty yards. You know, once

893
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: he once he kind of boogered, and that you know

894
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 4: you're calling, brought him right back in. That's that's what

895
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: save does. And so he he came back up. There

896
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: was a tree that was, you know, falling on the

897
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: ground that we had rained debt at fifty yards and

898
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: you know, I just kept my range finder on him

899
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: and he kept walking up and Luke's just like, talk

900
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: to me, Talk to me. He talking to me. So

901
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, firing off ranges. And that bull

902
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: stops at at fifty one yards, and you know, he

903
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: was already he was already a little antsy, and I

904
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: just I was a little afraid that if he kept

905
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 4: if he kept walking, we wouldn't have had a shot.

906
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: We'd be in the wide open and he potentially would

907
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: have seen you and he would have been gone.

908
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: You know.

909
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: So he gets in that window and kind of stop,

910
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: So I mewte at him, you know, just to keep

911
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 4: him there a little longer. His attention kind of comes

912
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: right back to us, and and lukelets one fire at

913
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: fifty one yards, a great, great shot, I mean a

914
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: great shot, and we hit him. We hit him high

915
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: in the back, and you know, we were sitting there wondering,

916
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: you know, what the heck happened? And everything felt good,

917
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: the shot felt good. We had plenty of time to

918
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: take that shot. We sat down, we redrooped for about,

919
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: you know, twenty thirty minutes, and then you know the

920
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: stories of all these ifs ands and butts, and you know,

921
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: everybody's you know, taking a little bit of blame for

922
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: kind of what happened and what transpired there. But at

923
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I think we did everything right.

924
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: Looking back at it, like I wouldn't have changed anything.

925
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: What about No, Yeah, I wouldn't have for sure.

926
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: And you know, you wonder again, like you said, you

927
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: wonder the whole time, you know, start second guessing yourself,

928
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: and you know, sit, would I had done this again

929
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: when I had done that any different?

930
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: But there's just no other option for us to do.

931
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously, you know, you go back and

932
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: you look at the video, you know, and you're like

933
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: the you know he dropped eight.

934
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: Inches man eight or more.

935
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: So it's like that the shot that that you know,

936
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: that I decided to take was you know, if that,

937
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: if that bull doesn't spook out on that on that bow,

938
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: letting go man like that, that's he's down.

939
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm gonna and I'm gonna rewind to two days before,

940
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, big country music star Luke Combs, you know,

941
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: world renowned comes into camp. You're like, God, can this

942
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: guy shoot a bow? You're like, well, you know, because

943
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know each other or not.

944
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, God, this is gonna be a train wreck.

945
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna call us. I don't have to call

946
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: using into eleven or twelve yards for this guy is

947
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: probably we might get lucky and hit it in the hoof,

948
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: you know. And so Luke gets Luke gets the camp

949
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: and shoots at twenty. I'm like, huh, that must have

950
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: been accident because he hit the middle of He hits

951
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: the middle of target and Luke, Luke's phil on this.

952
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: He's like, I want back up to thirty. So back

953
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: up to thirty and I don't know if you can

954
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: have more dead center and the bulls eye and I'm like, huh,

955
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: either got lucky twice in a row. No, this this

956
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: guy can shoot. And I'm like all right, I'm like

957
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: all right, I'm good. Look can shoot whatever he wants

958
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: to shoot, because like, you know, a target of that

959
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: at thirty. So I mean, I want to say, you know,

960
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: you were just taking a shot at fifty because we

961
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: had like you were shooting lights out. Yeah he hit that,

962
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: and we looked at your pin gaps, like your bow

963
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: is shooting fast, and so you're like, I don't have

964
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: a fifty pin. But I'm like, you know, Elk's Elk's death.

965
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: I said, you know, just that forty at the top

966
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: of fifty, like that's going to be And like I say,

967
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: we you know us, we put a piece of tape

968
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: on the video so we could see the drop and

969
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: then you know, if you put the if you put

970
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: a point on the kill spot, his back where you

971
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: hit ends up in that spot. So it's like, yeah,

972
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: maybe him being on alert, but it's like Elk usually

973
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: don't duck the shot. And so you know, you were

974
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: pretty hard on yourself. I didn't know you that well.

975
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: Then I want to give you a big hub hug

976
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: reb your back, make you feel better and you know,

977
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: be motivational, but it's like, hey man, we got to

978
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: wipe that one clean. It wasn't your fault that bulls

979
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: the other thing that I would much rather hit him

980
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: in the strap knowing that boy, and I was able

981
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: from my position to watch that thing walk away the

982
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: whole way and he'd almost had the arrow shook by

983
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: then hardly there was no blood and we we chased

984
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: him the rest that night and he was he was fighting.

985
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: We would have heard him fight for two and.

986
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: A half and he was down and fighting a hour later.

987
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: Big old bull. Because we seen the bull he was

988
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: fighting later that night. And if he was fighting that guy,

989
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: he was still filling his oats.

990
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: So we fall does make you feel better about it, right,

991
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: you know?

992
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, way better than a gut liver low and you know, cavity,

993
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: he's not going to die from this. Uh. And so

994
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: that was that was night. You know, I guess it

995
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: was technically our second night, first full day, and we

996
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: know we've been in beagles all day. We're able to

997
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: have that opportunity and just had a dang elk that

998
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: wanted to he's like a white tailt drops and out,

999
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: and are there any tips and tricks you've picked up

1000
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: that you can relate to whitetail the turkey or do

1001
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: you feel like there's still some stuff? You know, if

1002
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: you were to come do this on your own, you

1003
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: would you know you'd be able.

1004
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: To use or I would feel not very confident coming

1005
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: on my own, you know what I mean?

1006
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: Like I just feel like there's so much too.

1007
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: It's so much like without you guys, without y'all's knowledge

1008
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: of the terrain and the and the wind and you

1009
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: know how you want to get in and get out.

1010
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: And really, I think one thing that was way above

1011
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: my pay grade was like knowing how the winds begin

1012
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: to shift as this as the sun rises, and as

1013
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: when the cloud cover comes in, and as it runs

1014
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: through these different drainages and up on these different shelves

1015
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: and stuff. Like, Dude, I would be lost out here.

1016
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: And I can't help but think this morning that that's

1017
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: what's happening when we're busting out by these guys, is

1018
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: they have the best of intentions, just like I would

1019
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: if I was out here by myself trying to call

1020
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: a bully in, And I mean I'd be that guy

1021
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: that you're that you're laughing at on the top of

1022
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: the ridge, going that just it's just like there's so

1023
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 3: many things that you take years and years and years

1024
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: and years of experience to understand. And I'm lucky enough

1025
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: to be out here with, you know, two guys that

1026
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: know what the hell they're doing one hundred percent, not

1027
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: guys that know what they're doing fifty percent, because the

1028
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: fifty percent and it's still not being able to get

1029
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: it done. That's how hard it is, right Like, So

1030
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: I would you know, I mean, obviously I would encourage

1031
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: anybody to.

1032
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Get out here and and.

1033
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: Do it if you have the opportunity. But I think,

1034
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: you know, having a chance to go with somebody who

1035
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: really knows what they're doing is a game changer, and

1036
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: it saves you a lot of I mean, I think

1037
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: the lessons that I learned in the last two three

1038
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: days with y'all would have potentially taken me five or six,

1039
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: seven or eight seasons to figure out on my own,

1040
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I've.

1041
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: You skipped so much of that. Oh why do we

1042
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: keep busting this powl? Man?

1043
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: Like our win was good and we walked in, you know,

1044
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: and he's up on this thing, and then now we're

1045
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 3: up here and now he's you know, they're not. It's

1046
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: like you check the win when you walk in, and

1047
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: then you forget to check it because you're so excited

1048
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: about him firing off and he's right there, and then

1049
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: you don't even realize. I think it could be so

1050
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: easy to fall into bad habits like that. I think

1051
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: that that's where I would be. You know, I wouldn't.

1052
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: I would definitely not feel comfortable coming out.

1053
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: We know what we're doing.

1054
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: I think it was a reach, but we'll take it.

1055
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: I'll take that's like, I think that's the first compliment

1056
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: we've got in two days, but we'll take it. If

1057
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: that's no, And we wanted you to be included in

1058
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: this hut, like it wasn't us taking you honting. Sure,

1059
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: and so I think from you know, day one, you

1060
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: had more questions. You and Tyler were both like, Hey,

1061
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: what happens if this happens? What happened if this happens,

1062
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: And then by today i'm your damn you're calling the

1063
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: shots like Romeo, I don't think that's what we should do.

1064
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: We should do you know, you're joking aside. It's kind

1065
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: of funny romero, Me and Luke, I do want to

1066
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: say this, Me and Luke can come up with the

1067
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: greatest plan, Like I'm bounce and ideas off of him.

1068
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: He's bounced ideas off of me, and we're like, hey, guys,

1069
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. Remember I was like we should

1070
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: do the opposite of that, exactly the opposite, like none

1071
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: of that should be used, and we're gonna do this

1072
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: and we're like what.

1073
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: And none of us have been right yet, no, no,

1074
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: no matter what.

1075
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: So it's kind of kind of funny. But no, you

1076
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: I think, you know, seeing even the growth and in

1077
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: three days like hey you know this makes sense or

1078
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: what about this? And we're like, yeah, that makes we

1079
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: could do that. And there's so many decisions being made,

1080
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: like you know, you can make thousands of different decisions

1081
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: and and so you know, like hey Luke, Luke wants

1082
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: to do this, and we both buy in, like that

1083
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: could be a let's go do that. We'll try that.

1084
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Besides the truck. We haven't bought into that.

1085
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: If you did buy into brunch yesterday though, yeah, we're

1086
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: taking and eggs And.

1087
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 4: That was a tough sell. I mean, you know, it

1088
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: was tough salve. But we finally got sold on it

1089
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: and it's worth it.

1090
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and into Luke's credit, we took the break.

1091
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: What'd we go out and find last night?

1092
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: We went out and found a freaking hammer last night,

1093
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: freaking giant.

1094
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just we've all. You got the lay

1095
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: eyes on, we got the lay eyes on binoculars, but

1096
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: it just wasn't a good.

1097
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: Spot, possible spot to get to, possible spot to make

1098
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: a play on, like I mean, I feel like we

1099
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: really did, and we brought it down to the wire

1100
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: just to It's one of those one of those bulls

1101
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know where you're like you do

1102
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: anything just to get eyes on it.

1103
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you stay there all night.

1104
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: You know there's no chance you're getting a shot at

1105
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: that time. I mean, I think after after you know

1106
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: once we when we first when you first saw it,

1107
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: when you came up and me and him were set

1108
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: up on that thing and we saw those cows coming across,

1109
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 3: and you know, Jeremy had called you over to come

1110
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: up because we were kind of the cows had kind

1111
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: of Pilford out and dude, I remember you glad because

1112
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: I dropped my knocks like two three days ago. I'm like,

1113
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm not even using these things, you know, I'm just

1114
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: taking them off to shoot every time if we get

1115
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: set up, so.

1116
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: I didn't bring them. I remember you glassing up at this.

1117
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: Thing and like you got all gaggy and weird, and

1118
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, what are we getting into?

1119
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, it was like it was wild, dude.

1120
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I got nervous at that point because I

1121
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: was the only one that seen him, Like, oh I

1122
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: her goes Phelps getting all excited, exaggerating, and I'm like, Jeremy,

1123
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: you kind of just look and you give the guy

1124
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: the eyes like you don't you don't want Luke to

1125
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: get crazy yet or get more nervous in your ideas.

1126
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: You're like, it's a giant. And so thankfully we made

1127
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: the play we needed to. We ran back up the

1128
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: road try to get ahead of him.

1129
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: And they just they just broke off it in that

1130
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: meadow instead of following.

1131
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Him and his fifteen cows. So that's the other thing.

1132
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Most of these bulls around here have two three cows.

1133
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: This guy's big enough to be running at fifteen right now. Yeah,

1134
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: and they're just sitting there feed and we got we

1135
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: got a really good. Look at him. Just a giant,

1136
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, just one of those amazing public lamd bulls.

1137
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeh out here ontime?

1138
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah.

1139
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 4: I was telling Luke, I said, Man, if we arrow

1140
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: this bull, i'mnna be real excited for you, but I'm

1141
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: also gonna be a little jealous.

1142
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh man.

1143
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: That's that was it.

1144
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: That was awesome man, And I'm I just I hate

1145
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: that that happened this morning because we went into that

1146
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: same area.

1147
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I had such a good plan.

1148
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: And who knows if that I don't think the one

1149
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: we were on was that bull, but it was a

1150
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: big It was a big bull.

1151
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: That's that's part of the fun. Like is it going

1152
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: to be?

1153
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: Is?

1154
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1155
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean obviously they're in here, man, you know what

1156
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean, It's like wow.

1157
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people also rush into

1158
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: those situations, right. They see a bull of a lifetime

1159
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 4: like that, and regardless of what the wind's doing, regardless

1160
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: of how many cows he has, regardless of how open

1161
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: it is, they just they rush in, right, and they

1162
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 4: just blow their chances forever.

1163
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Tomorrow the next day that you just never have a chance.

1164
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: To trust me, every bit of me wanted to do

1165
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 4: that you know, like at least see like, at least

1166
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: see how.

1167
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: Right happens and we get close, you know, but you you.

1168
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 4: Get into those positions, and you know, we've been fortunate

1169
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: enough to be in enough of them where anything we

1170
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: do isn't gonna work right, and so you have to

1171
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: make that call of backing out. You have to make

1172
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: that call of let's leave it for another day, you know, regroup, restrategize,

1173
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: plan for a different scenario. And you know, this morning scenario,

1174
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: whether it was or wasn't, that bull was was you know,

1175
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: what we planned for, what was strategized on, and it

1176
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: would it would have worked out. But god, there's nothing

1177
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: more frustrating than than leaving a bull like that, right,

1178
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 4: Oh man.

1179
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: It's like and knowing it's like, well, we can't go

1180
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: after him tonight, you know, yeah, already he's already spooked

1181
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 3: out and freaked out.

1182
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1183
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: It's like and you know, those guys might be back

1184
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: in there this evening, and it's all those trucks and stuff.

1185
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: And then we saw more people showing up like we

1186
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: thought it would. We thought it would kind of cool

1187
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: off to take this Monday, you know, like it seems

1188
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: like everybody that was working on the weekend is out.

1189
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: All the caloriers come up here to get the horseback

1190
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: in here.

1191
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: It's like what the I at the county fair and

1192
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: the rodo what Luke said, you know earlier, he said

1193
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: that he wouldn't know quite what to do if he

1194
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: was out here. But he and I were talking earlier,

1195
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: and I think in the last forty eight hours he's

1196
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: learned quite a bit to where, you know, like that

1197
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 4: situation yesterday afternoon, I'm pretty sure he was the first

1198
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: one that was like, hey, there's probably nothing we can

1199
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 4: do here, right we got we got to back out.

1200
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just impossible. I mean that.

1201
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like I wish everybody could see just beyond,

1202
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: you know, the other side of what we're seeing right here.

1203
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: But it's just like.

1204
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I really think if, for you know, if

1205
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: we're standing here and we heard when Bugo on the

1206
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 3: top of this now while we're filming this thing, what's

1207
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: your best option right now? There's not really wait for

1208
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: him to go away and then try to get up there.

1209
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 3: Right It's like you can't you can't pull him down

1210
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: here because he can just see everything.

1211
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: He can stand on the thing. Well, there's not any

1212
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: elk down there, but it sounds like there is, but there.

1213
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: Is no I can see I can Yeah, it's like

1214
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: there's no there's no guessing on his part.

1215
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: You can see Tyler back there, lurking in a tree.

1216
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: Just what did you hear me say? He said? He said,

1217
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: he's he's never too far, never too close, never too far,

1218
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: and never too close. Yeah, that should be.

1219
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: Your motto, dude, never too far and ever too trade market,

1220
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: the trade market.

1221
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, we've got a day left. We're gonna

1222
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: do everything everything we can in our power to make

1223
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: this happen, all of us, everybody here on on the side.

1224
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, it feels a little cooler. We got

1225
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: some cloud cover which was like the great day we

1226
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: had that, so really excited for tonight. But let's switch

1227
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: gears a little bit and get into Luke Comb's hunting

1228
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: and how it kind of ties into some of your

1229
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: music and you know, you're starting to get more and

1230
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: more references in your song lyrics that you mentioned. It's

1231
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: becoming a bigger piece of your life. You're keeping a

1232
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: and maybe it's too personal. This can get cut out,

1233
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: like keeping a diary for your kids, like just a

1234
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: hunt journal. So what does honey mean to you? When

1235
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: did you start? Kind of give us a little background

1236
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: on that and just in general.

1237
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really started, I don't know, I guess probably

1238
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: eight years ago now and have it's been kind of

1239
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: just become obsessed with it, you know really, you know

1240
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: obviously my you know, my, what I do for a

1241
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: living is very uh sensory overload, you know what I mean.

1242
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: Like it's just a lot of one place to the next,

1243
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: to this place to that place, and in this car

1244
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: and into this place and doing interviews and doing photo

1245
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: shoots and shoot music videos and in the studio.

1246
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: And writing songs and it never ends, you know.

1247
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: So I think these trips for me, you know, hunting

1248
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: started out as a way to kind of it's the

1249
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: complete antithesis of that, right Like it does ultimately, it

1250
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: does culminate with some super climax, high intensity moment if

1251
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: everything goes right, But like the lead up, you know,

1252
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: it's like everything about it is very I don't know,

1253
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: there's a lot of calming elements too, like the whole process, right,

1254
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: Like you know, if like if you're pumped to go hunting,

1255
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: to shoot an animal. It's like you're I mean, yeah,

1256
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: that's the end goal, but it's like just there would

1257
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: you would leave feeling empty if you showed up and

1258
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: then you shot an animal and that.

1259
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: Was the end.

1260
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: And it all ended right, like, you know, spending time

1261
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: outside and being with you know, like minded people, and

1262
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 3: I've also learned a tremendous amount of life lessons from

1263
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: being out here right.

1264
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1265
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: I was talking with you earlier when we were in

1266
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: the tent when this was all getting set up, and

1267
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: talking about how, you know, the music stuff for me

1268
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 3: has always come really naturally, you know, and not that

1269
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: it wasn't you know, really difficult, and that it's not

1270
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: a lot of work, and it is all that, but it's.

1271
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Never felt like I never felt.

1272
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: Like I had a lot to overcome in the sense

1273
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: of and I guess that I did, but it just

1274
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: never felt that way.

1275
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1276
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: It's something that I was naturally good at, and I

1277
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: really always believed in myself and my ability to do that,

1278
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: and once I decided I was going to do that

1279
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: for a living, it seemed like I didn't really hit

1280
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: a lot of setbacks, you know, just the way my

1281
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: story kind of played out.

1282
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for that.

1283
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm very lucky, but you know, I'm you know, we've

1284
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: talked about a little bit on this trip that I'm

1285
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: gonna showing a bit of a cold streak in the

1286
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: woods man, like.

1287
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Like the bull dropping.

1288
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: And you know, I've I've had some some other hunts

1289
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: that just kind of everything you do everything the right way,

1290
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: and then it doesn't work out, you know, the way

1291
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: that that it's supposed to, and I mean even down

1292
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: to the you know, the eleventh hour. You know, like

1293
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: I've had stuff recently where I'm like, we're already celebrating

1294
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: and then it's it doesn't go away that you think

1295
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: that it's going to go. And so I've learned a

1296
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: lot through those experiences, right that that not you know,

1297
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 3: just because you do everything you can, and you you

1298
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: prepare the best that you possibly can, and you do

1299
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 3: everything you feel like the right way, and you're coming

1300
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: on these you know, public land hunts and you know,

1301
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: I could probably afford to go do whatever hunt I

1302
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: wanted to, but I don't want to do that, you know,

1303
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 3: I want I want it to be a challenge.

1304
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: I want it to be difficult. I want there to

1305
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: be you know, I want it to be.

1306
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: You know, I don't can't say I want to go

1307
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: hike to the top of the Himalayan mountains, but.

1308
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, I don't want it

1309
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: to be.

1310
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to just sitting in front of a

1311
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: you know, in front of a big pile of apples

1312
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: and they go, well, that's you know, this is you know,

1313
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: Razor Blade's going to walk out in five.

1314
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Minutes, you know what I mean, and you're gonna shoot it.

1315
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm just not interested in that, you know.

1316
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: So, But yeah, I keep that journal man, and it

1317
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: helps me kind of especially through this, through this kind

1318
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 3: of last year. I guess that's it's been really tough

1319
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: for me, at least big game wise, it's been. It's

1320
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: been tough for me. I've had a great Turkey season

1321
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: this year. I'm thankful for that.

1322
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: I love that.

1323
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: You know, Turkey Woods seems like the only thing that

1324
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: keep me coming back right now. You know, it hasn't

1325
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: been a lot of it hasn't hasn't been a lot

1326
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: of good outcomes anywhere else. And but I keep that

1327
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: journal really, you know, I me and my friends talk

1328
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: about it a lot that I go hunt with you know,

1329
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: Dan and Reid. They have a podcas guest meet and

1330
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: I've been hunting with those guys for years and they're

1331
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: some of my best friends.

1332
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: And you know there they.

1333
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: Grew up hunting and their dad hunts, and so they're like, man,

1334
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: I just I wish I had I wish my dad would.

1335
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: Have done that, you know.

1336
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: I wish I could go back and read all my

1337
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: dad's you know, the days that he was miserable and

1338
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: the days that he was you know that he got

1339
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 3: the biggest ear of his life. I wish I could

1340
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: have all that stuff, you know. And so my wife

1341
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: bought me that book a few years ago for Christmas,

1342
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: I think around twenty nineteen, and just this Elk Hunt's

1343
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: going to be the last pages of my first first

1344
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: journal that will be completely filled up. So I'm excited

1345
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: about about starting the next one and hopefully we can

1346
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: get we can get something done and there'll be something

1347
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: good in the end of that one.

1348
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're gonna do everything we can. Yeah, yeah,

1349
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean we you know, got to know Luke, you know,

1350
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: he was a you know, a big country music singer

1351
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: prior to this. You know, hopefully be able to call

1352
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: my friend for life now after this. But one thing

1353
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: I've noticed about just walking around the woods, like very

1354
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: family oriented, Like we see like a random bone. He's like, man, like,

1355
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait till my kid asked me about what

1356
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: that is. You know, It's like I feel like it.

1357
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little cliche, but it's like, man,

1358
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: he's here for the you know, you're doing this for

1359
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: the right reasons and thinking about the future and a big,

1360
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: big family man. And you know, the last album Father

1361
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: and Sons, you know, and and some of your other

1362
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: music you talk about hunting, you know, hunting by myself again,

1363
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: which maybe a little you know, metaphor about your kids

1364
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: grown up, but it does tie it back into hunting.

1365
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Do you do you get any I'm gonna rewind a

1366
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: little bit. Sure, We've we've had some conversations on these

1367
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: hunts that kind of lead to this. You've you mentioned

1368
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: that throughout your career you've been able to maintain a

1369
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: lot of creative that is there ever, any pressure from

1370
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: from any not to sing about hunting, Like is are

1371
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: you just you have that creative where it's like, we

1372
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: don't care if you talk about hunting.

1373
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: I've never had anything.

1374
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: You know, there's times when we've you know, there's times

1375
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: in the writing room where you know, we've come up

1376
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: and we're like, man, you know, maybe it's like you

1377
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: don't talk about it in this song just because it

1378
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, or sometimes like I think, you know,

1379
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: a lot of the guys that I'm friends with, you know,

1380
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: we all kind of hunt you know, not every guy

1381
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm friends with, but most of the guys I'm really

1382
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: close with we do. So we all have that in common.

1383
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: And like we've been joking this whole week about you know, oh,

1384
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: they're just up that draw or the gut or the cut.

1385
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: There's a hundred different names for like a little valley

1386
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: with the creek, you know what I mean. It's like

1387
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: and it's like some of the lingo is so specific

1388
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: that I feel like and when I'm writing a song,

1389
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: it's like I try to not say the same stuff

1390
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: in the same way that everybody else does. And I'm

1391
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: sure people will shred me apart from saying that, and

1392
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: they'll find every song I've done that somebody else has

1393
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: said something.

1394
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: But it's like when you try to reference Hunting, it

1395
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: it's like it is.

1396
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: Even amongst country music, where it would be most prevalent,

1397
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: it still can be at a deep level.

1398
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: It's it's still a niche thing, right, Like.

1399
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: You can't talk about climbing over the saddle to get

1400
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: your wind, right because like nobody's gonna know what that is,

1401
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: what that is Like there's ten guys that are like,

1402
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: oh I got and like for them or right here,

1403
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's like so I but I know, I've

1404
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: never had any pressure from anyone to say, don't do that.

1405
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: I think hunting songs can be because I I I

1406
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: do feel like that hunting gets a bad rap from

1407
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: from a lot of people, and that, you know, that

1408
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: kind of makes me upset a little bit because it's

1409
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: something that I value so much, and I do think

1410
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: that it has, you.

1411
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: Know, a lot of it gets a lot of bad press.

1412
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: It has a lot of bad pr from a lot

1413
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: of people that maybe don't know a lot about it

1414
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: or a lot about a lot of things that that

1415
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 3: kind of are in that world. But I've never had

1416
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: anyone say don't don't sing about it or or don't

1417
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: you know, write about it, or don't talk about it. Yeah,

1418
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: And I just think, you know, I'm lucky to be

1419
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: in a genre that does I know, you know, me

1420
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: and Steve have talked about it. He knows some people

1421
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: that hunt and they don't know anyone else that hunts,

1422
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: and they're just they feel kind of lost because they know.

1423
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: I can't imagine like loving hunting and not having any

1424
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: hunting buddies.

1425
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: That would just be like the worst, you know what

1426
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like, right, like that's like to be

1427
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: like seventy five percent of going.

1428
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: It's like, God, I've just been outside and you have

1429
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: no one to share with.

1430
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: And like going to like going with people and like

1431
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: sitting around drinking you know, whiskey out of a freaking

1432
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: coffee cup. You know, it's like that's the that's the

1433
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: good stuff, you know what I mean. It's like that's

1434
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: the stuff that I feel like. Those are the stories

1435
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: ultimately that you know, that you end up telling, right,

1436
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: like you right, you hang your mount on the wall.

1437
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: But I find myself, you know, telling stories about me

1438
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: and my something funny that happened to my buddy on

1439
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: that hunt, as opposed to you know, when we shot

1440
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: that what whatever.

1441
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1442
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: It's like, so yeah, no, I've never gotten that pressure before,

1443
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: but I could see I'm sure that there are people

1444
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: who probably have to be honest, you know, I but

1445
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: just the way my my things kind of set up,

1446
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: it's like no one's ever really had you know, no

1447
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: one's ever really ever had that dominion to like they

1448
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: don't do this or don't do that, you know what

1449
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean. But I'm sure that I'm sure that that's

1450
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: happened to people before.

1451
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like I said, I I you know,

1452
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: I kind of sit back some some hunting references are

1453
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: a little bit cringe, but it's like you listen, like

1454
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: hunting by yourself again, You're like, it's got a metaphorical meaning.

1455
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: It's more about watching your kids grow up, right than

1456
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: it is hunting. But it's like, oh, you found a

1457
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: cool way to mix that in.

1458
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: The hunting the hunting songs, man, We've I've heard there

1459
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: are some really bad ones out there, dude, I mean

1460
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: there's some really bad ones.

1461
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: And it's like it's such a razor's edge.

1462
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you said that again because I was

1463
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: trying to kind of circle back to that, and my

1464
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: last talking point.

1465
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: Was it's not that you don't want to write about it.

1466
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: But you have to.

1467
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: It's such a razor's edge between complete cringey garbage and

1468
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 3: like something that's well done enough, but that a lot

1469
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: of people can understand. Like if you did it really well,

1470
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: there wouldn't be a lot of people who could could

1471
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, glob onto it and relate.

1472
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: To it, because it's all so specific, it's all knowledge based,

1473
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: it's all you know. So it's hard. It's hard to

1474
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: write a good hunting song, it really is. It's very difficult.

1475
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: So hunting mainly turkey, mainly white tail the last couple

1476
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: of years. You came out in twenty one with Steve.

1477
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: That was your first Western big game. You were able

1478
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: to take a pronghorn Wyoming.

1479
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

1480
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: We also talked at red stag on in New Zealand. Yep,

1481
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: on stag in New Zealand. So is there was there?

1482
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: Is there? Like is an Eastern hunter? You know, we

1483
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: we all live out west, so we we live and

1484
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: breathe mule, deer, out blacktail. And is it like aspirational

1485
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: for a guy like you to come out west and

1486
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: some more of these species? Is just something you want

1487
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: to mix in? Is it like you see yourself coming

1488
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: out west? More to hunt.

1489
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I definitely would would would would love

1490
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: to do that. You know, obviously these hunts require a

1491
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: lot more time. You know, they're a lot more scheduled.

1492
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 3: The tagging is a nightmare, you know, getting a tag,

1493
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: drawing a tag, or you know, spinning a arm and

1494
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: a leg on a landowner tag. It's like, there's so

1495
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: many hurdles to hunting out here, and I think even

1496
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: a guy in my position who would have almost unlimited

1497
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: resources to make it happen, it's still intimidating. So I

1498
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: can't imagine what it's like being a regular guy, you know,

1499
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: working a forty hour week job and trying to get

1500
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: one of these ones in a lifetime tags and then

1501
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: coming in here and spending your vacation time to come

1502
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: do this hunt and then walking away empty handed. Like

1503
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine how hard that would be to do.

1504
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: It's definitely something that I would want to do more.

1505
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: But they're you know, at times, you you know, you

1506
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: struggle with guilt. To me, I'm completely honest, like you

1507
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: struggle with some guilt of like, man, like, there's so

1508
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: many people that would love to be doing this hunt.

1509
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: It almost feels wrong that I've gotten to come in

1510
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: and like this is where I'm starting at, you know,

1511
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: like tag of a freaking lifetime, you know what I mean,

1512
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 3: to come in and have the opportunity to be out

1513
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: here in the spot with you guys. And but yeah,

1514
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: it's something I would love to do, to do more

1515
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: for sure, But I do want it to not be

1516
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: I do want it to be special, right.

1517
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be like.

1518
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna just go buy a bunch of tags,

1519
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: and you know, I would love to, you know, I

1520
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: would love to because realistically, right like I'm never going

1521
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 3: to live in you know, Wyoming or you know, it's

1522
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 3: just never gonna happen for me, you know, with my

1523
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: job and my family and stuff. So you don't want

1524
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: to get too addicted to something that I'm not going

1525
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: to have access.

1526
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: To, you know what I mean? Like that often, you

1527
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1528
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: So I try to enjoy it while I'm out here

1529
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: and and you know, maximize you know, my chances to

1530
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 3: be out here and do it.

1531
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: But am I ever going to be a guy that's

1532
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, coming out hunting and out by myself? Probably not.

1533
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: I would love to be. I just don't know if

1534
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: that's realistic for me.

1535
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: You know, well, I think you know, leading up to this,

1536
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: Jason and I we were hunting a little bit, uh,

1537
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: just two of us, and uh, I think it goes

1538
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: without saying, but I'm gonna say that anyways. Like just uh,

1539
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,959
Speaker 4: the amount of respect that we have for you coming

1540
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: out grinding doing it public land, like all the variables

1541
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 4: that could go wrong, we've we've experienced, they have everything

1542
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 4: that has Yeah, I mean you're you're optimistic about it.

1543
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 4: You know, you're you're hungry out here. You want to

1544
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 4: you know what, you want to get up and get

1545
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 4: after it. And I, I, you know, I have a

1546
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 4: lot of respect for somebody who's who's willing to go

1547
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 4: through that the highs, the lows, the in betweens and

1548
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: and get after public Land out because there really is nothing,

1549
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 4: you know, more difficult than than hunting big game. I'm

1550
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: sure there are people are going to say that, you know,

1551
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: you know, doing an expedition in Antarcy or something like that,

1552
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 4: but like there, you know, it's it's it's difficult to

1553
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 4: come out here and do this. You know, it's difficult

1554
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 4: to come out here, commit the time away from your

1555
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: family as you were just mentioning, you know, and then

1556
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 4: have all these different possibilities that can go against you

1557
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: out here on public land. You know, I think it's

1558
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: a great way to to to start, you know, you

1559
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: initiate yourself and kind of l hunting and Western big

1560
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 4: game hunting on public land. And I I'm glad you

1561
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 4: you chose to go that route.

1562
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to be here. Man. It's been so

1563
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: much fun.

1564
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Really, I you know, it's the video eventually come out,

1565
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: this podcast come up for the video, But I don't

1566
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: know if we've stopped laughing or how many how many

1567
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: of the how many of Luke's jokes are gonna make

1568
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: the cut. But when his music career is over, you

1569
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: guys will see him at the comedy clubs. Make you

1570
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: He'll be doing those tours. It's too niche. I think

1571
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: the humor is too niche.

1572
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: I don't think We're walking down the trail and it's

1573
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: like I have to I have to like gathered myself.

1574
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 4: I was like remind myself that we're hunting, you know.

1575
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I could be laughing all daying day. I'm

1576
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: just on the back.

1577
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: I'm even going to get on any elk because you

1578
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 5: guys are being so loud, We're chuckling.

1579
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: We're just chuckling at We're trying to drum them up,

1580
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: trying to drumb them up.

1581
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: So and I know some of these answers, So it's

1582
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm asking a question I know the answer to because

1583
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: we've talked about over the last couple of days. But

1584
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, how I was hunting kind of changed. You know,

1585
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: eight years ago you made the decision I want to

1586
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: start hunting. You know, whether it was friends, but it

1587
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: was it a connection to where your food comes from?

1588
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: Was it a pastime you were just interested in you

1589
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: didn't get the chance. And then how's that kind of changed?

1590
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, changed you you know, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, whatever

1591
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: it may be.

1592
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: I think I think it's a little bit of both, right,

1593
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, a lot of my a lot of

1594
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: my buddies were doing it, and I had some I

1595
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: had some interest in, you know, you know God that

1596
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, they all felt like I all felt like

1597
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: they knew what they were doing and stuff, and so

1598
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I you know, I'd love to go.

1599
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: And you know, the first hunt I ever went on

1600
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: was a turkey hunt with my buddy Ray. We went

1601
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 3: down to you Wardia where he lives and got the

1602
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 3: hunt on you know, the land he grew up hunting

1603
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: on and stuff, and just hearing the freaking tree gobbles

1604
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: in the morning and stuff, and I was like, man,

1605
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: that's like I could.

1606
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 2: Get into this.

1607
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 3: You know, Ray's dad gave me a slate call on

1608
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 3: that trip that I still got that'll still use, you know,

1609
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think that was that was the

1610
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: morning that got me hooked on it.

1611
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: Right. You know, we didn't get a turkey that day

1612
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: or anything. I don't even know if we really.

1613
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 3: Saw they saw one on the on the ground, right,

1614
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, we heard a couple of goblin in the

1615
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: trees and stuff. But that got me the itch to

1616
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: want to go back and continued to continue to pursue

1617
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 3: that and I was able to get my first tear

1618
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: at my buddy Jonathan's house, who uh you know, produces

1619
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 3: my records with me and we write together a lot.

1620
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: And he loves to hunt, you know, white tail. He's

1621
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 3: a big white tail turkey, you know, just a Southeast hunter.

1622
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 3: You know, I called him Southeast hunter turkey whitetail. Maybe

1623
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: be shoot a dove if you know, if they got

1624
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 3: a buddy that's got some flower field or something, you know,

1625
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 3: not somebody that you know is going to be packing

1626
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: an elkout and you know, out in the middle of

1627
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: Alaska or something. But you know, same difference, you know,

1628
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 3: And so you know then I do love to cook too, right,

1629
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: So then it becomes access to, you know, things that

1630
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: you would never be able to get if you weren't

1631
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: out doing it yourself, you know, and being able to

1632
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: share those recipes with you know, share those meals with

1633
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: my parents, you know who. You know, my dad did't

1634
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: hunt growing up. You know, he grew up in the

1635
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: rust belt of Ohio, you know, so they weren't you know,

1636
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 3: hunting or nothing. You know, dad was his dad was

1637
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: a truck driver, and they just didn't hunt.

1638
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: Just wasn't part of growing up for them.

1639
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: And to be able to eat that food with them,

1640
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: and you know, obviously it look forward now to you know,

1641
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: to bringing my kids into it is something I'm really

1642
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: excited about having an experience with.

1643
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: And you know, it's just I'm glad I found it.

1644
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: Right, It's like a you know, because music's always been

1645
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: you know, my number one passion, right, you know, and

1646
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 3: not that it still isn't.

1647
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: But it's also my job now too, right.

1648
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: So it's like you have to you have to work

1649
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 3: to have the separation between that you know, doing you know,

1650
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 3: I love for the love of the game music stuff

1651
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: Like when I'm in the room writing a song, you know,

1652
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: or when I'm on stage singing it.

1653
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: Those are the times that you really love it. Everything

1654
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 2: else feels like work, right, Like nothing with hunting to

1655
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: me feels like work at all. Right.

1656
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: It's just something I love doing and something enjoy and

1657
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: and it's not something that you can do anytime, which

1658
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: I think is what makes it special too, right, Like

1659
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: you can't go, well, I think.

1660
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: Tomorrow I'm gonna go hunt a rut and elk.

1661
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: You know. It's like just these magical little windows, you know,

1662
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: of the year that you have the chance to do that.

1663
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 3: That's what I love about Turkey Out so much as

1664
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: it's you know, you got six weeks man to get

1665
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: it done, you know, and if you don't, then you're

1666
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 3: not gonna get a chance to until next.

1667
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: Year, you know.

1668
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: So that's the thing that I think draws me back

1669
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: to it is, you know, these really awesome opportunities that

1670
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 3: you don't you can't just go do whenever you want.

1671
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, I can just go play golf

1672
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 3: tomorrow if I feel like playing golf tomorrow. You know,

1673
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 3: it's not not that way. You know, having the opportunity

1674
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: to you know, chase a you know, a huge white

1675
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: tails and Iowa or something like that that may ultimately

1676
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 3: be once in a lifetime experience for me, you know

1677
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1678
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's the thing I think makes it cool.

1679
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: It makes it cool always, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1680
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 5: I think also too for you, it can be very

1681
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 5: therapeutic from your lifestyle to being so busy and entertaining

1682
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 5: and being in front of the camera and just the

1683
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 5: crazy lifestyle that you live, to being in the blind

1684
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 5: or a tree center out in the woods with no

1685
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 5: selles service, and you know, getting to share the experience

1686
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 5: of these guys and getting to know them and lifelong friends.

1687
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: For sure, I think it's very therapeutic attempts.

1688
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: To no doubt, no doubt it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's been.

1689
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: It's been a kick, and we still got I still

1690
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: got a day left. So I want to let everybody know,

1691
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: if you don't already know, you're gonna be your touring

1692
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 1: back in Australia, New Zealand, just Australia or both Australia

1693
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: and New Zealand twenty twenty five. So this is probably

1694
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: where you're gonna sell most of your tickets to Resistance podcast,

1695
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: so you can thank me now or later, yeah, later,

1696
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: fucking out later. You have a huge following in Australia

1697
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: and New Zealand.

1698
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: Later, We'll do it later.

1699
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: Okay. I've got like probably like three or four listeners

1700
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: from Australia and New Zealand. That's it. That's four, three

1701
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: or four takes going to help you out, all right?

1702
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: Are you gonna and I know the answer this is already.

1703
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna take time to hunt while you're down there

1704
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: again like you were last time.

1705
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: I was, I was going to, I was really gonna

1706
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: do it.

1707
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: We were doing everything we wanted to, you know, everything

1708
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 3: to try to make that happen, and it's just gonna

1709
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: be in the.

1710
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: Middle of summer, you know.

1711
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 3: And the strange thing about hunting down there is there's

1712
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: really not any regulations at all, so you could go

1713
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 3: hunt right It says the clear opposite of what we

1714
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: just talked about, Like you can't do it whenever you

1715
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: want but it's like it just it's just going to

1716
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: be one hundred degrees. The animals are all just going

1717
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: to be lethargic and just laid up somewhere, you know,

1718
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: and it's just like it's just not something that you know,

1719
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 3: you know, you want to go when the magic's happening, right,

1720
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like and so yeah, unfortunately

1721
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: now won't be going up to I'm sad to say

1722
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: that I won't be going, but you know, it would

1723
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: just be again one of those things like you wanted

1724
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: the experience to be right too. You know, it's not

1725
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 3: just about going over there and shooting something, which you

1726
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 3: could do if you want to. You know, I'm sure

1727
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: there's guys that do that, but it's just not for me,

1728
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: you know.

1729
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: So it's no hunting eight eight stops, eight four stops,

1730
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: eight shows, eight four stops, four stops, eight shows. Yeah, yeah,

1731
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: cha be you have and you have a I don't

1732
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: know if you're if I'm supposed to Ben announce this,

1733
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,440
Speaker 1: it's just pretty light year next year, right twenty.

1734
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: Pretty light, pretty light, be pretty light somewhere in that

1735
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: somewhere in that neighborhood. But some but some cool shows

1736
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: there's some cool shows in there that we haven't announced.

1737
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: All right, so scratch it, scratch it, leave it, take

1738
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: it off.

1739
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: Say that all right.

1740
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: After the podcast, Like I told you that you supposed

1741
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: anything you want to you guys want to close with anything.

1742
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: One thing I do want to say is I and

1743
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: this is leading into this hunt.

1744
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1745
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Comb is coming on the hunt, you know,

1746
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: tons of pressure Me and Jerremy. I gotta get the

1747
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, figure this out, you know. And then Luke

1748
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: gives me the old cliche line like don't worry. I'm

1749
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: just I'm just hunting, you know. We don't worry about

1750
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: killing anything, you know. I just want to go have

1751
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: fun and have a good experience. And I've seen him

1752
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: through all that bs you know originally, but no, it's

1753
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: truly like I and this is probably the least of

1754
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: the accodes. He's like it's authentic though, Like once I

1755
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: got on you know, feet on the ground, I'm like, no,

1756
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: Luke's Luke's a good dude. Like he's not like looking

1757
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: for us to hand deliver and elk to him, Like

1758
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: he's truly is here for the experience. Don't get me wrong,

1759
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: We're trying to kill elk Sure I can see that

1760
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: fire in his idea. We're trying to kill. Yeah, we're

1761
01:15:59,560 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: trying to.

1762
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 4: I think it's part of his reverse psychology. He's like, nah,

1763
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 4: you just want to come up with good time hang out.

1764
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: He needs to kill now, and we're doing it the

1765
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: hard way. Like you know, Walt Tent sleeping on a cot,

1766
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: eating out of a camp chef store.

1767
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, somebody, get the thing. Dave grabbed

1768
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: the thing. Grab the grab the thing. You know what

1769
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: he's getting you know, Yeah, he's grabbing it.

1770
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: Grab this is this is the biggest luxury we've had, we've.

1771
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: Had on the whole trip. He's grabbing it for us

1772
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: right now, Cameraman, Dave Hero.

1773
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: This changed it from like a two star rating to

1774
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: like a four star rating. Yeah, this is one we

1775
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: got to get from you.

1776
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 4: Once we got adjusted to and got the he got.

1777
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: The right key.

1778
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, once the height was adjusted and this is.

1779
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: How Yeah, there we go. Bring it in here for

1780
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: the folks. Areas give it up for day.

1781
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: Everybody like this, This old gal right here, I spent

1782
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: a lot of good time with her.

1783
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 5: Oh Man, just digging a hole and glad he didn't

1784
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 5: get eaten by a wolf last night we.

1785
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: Saw Yeah, yeah, there was a chance that that some

1786
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: of us were going to get attacked by wolves.

1787
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: The super endangered wolves that we've seen and that we've

1788
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: seen heard two different every day.

1789
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1790
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, you gotta you gotta hike forty

1791
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 4: you know, at least.

1792
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: See them because they're so isolated.

1793
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 4: And then you know, hike this thing back forty miles.

1794
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1795
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: That was tough, was all.

1796
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 2: It was a hall for sure, but it worked out.

1797
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad we did it. This this thing has been.

1798
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna this around squatty.

1799
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this is the highlight of trip.

1800
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: This is communion right here. Man.

1801
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: You know, you could have put a patent on it

1802
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: before this this thing. This thing's been busy, dude. I mean,

1803
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: this thing has gotten some some miles put on it

1804
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 3: on this trip. There's no doubt.

1805
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: It's like like chili cook off Fort John like level

1806
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: of abuse out of this thing.

1807
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 4: It almost wasn't here, and you almost didn't bring it,

1808
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: almost didn't bring it.

1809
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: What would we have done?

1810
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: I had a dot of a ballobstruction, you know, I mean,

1811
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: it's just there would have been no same.

1812
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 4: It was shoved in the truck.

1813
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: I was.

1814
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 4: I was on the side of not bringing it.

1815
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: Your dad like forced you to bring it, right, Yeah, yeah,

1816
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: I mean you're bringing it. People are gonna want it.

1817
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah we don't, we don't everybody and then somehow ended

1818
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: up in the truck. So I'm like, we're gonna roll

1819
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 4: with it.

1820
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean there their mornings were lines

1821
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: for him to get on this thing there on this right.

1822
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: Like shovel like best in the shovel, Like everybody's waiting

1823
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 2: for this in the shovel.

1824
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1825
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: It's like it's like space mountain or something like everybody's

1826
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: wanting to get to go before we get out in

1827
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: the woods, you know.

1828
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 1: In closing, anything you want to add, Luke, it's been

1829
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: it's been a blast. I've had an absolute great time.

1830
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: It's it's been awesome.

1831
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are guessing b roller snapping after this and

1832
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: we'll be good. Yeah, I think we're good.

1833
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: That's gonna be important recipe ingredient to this recipe killing

1834
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: health tonight. Anything you want to add, Tyler.

1835
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 5: It's just been an awesome experience so far, getting to

1836
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 5: know you guys and watching how you guys go about

1837
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 5: things and and learning hearing you guys call and just

1838
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 5: being in them and hearing the behgles.

1839
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,919
Speaker 2: It's been once in a lifetime experience.

1840
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 5: And appreciate you guys for dragging us along.

1841
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 4: It's it's been awesome anything Jeremy, Yeah, I mean I'll

1842
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 4: just echo that.

1843
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1844
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: It's a I've had some good times out in the

1845
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 4: the sticks and this is one of the top. Yeah,

1846
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I've been having a blast.

1847
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: We have to work too, Yeah, Well mission's not over, yes,

1848
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 2: you know, but we'll get there.

1849
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm going to close with Luke gaming analogy

1850
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use from here on out, just trying to

1851
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: take this all in. Like growing up, I wanted to

1852
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: kill every elk on the mountain as fast as I could,

1853
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: And uh, you know now it's like I love to

1854
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: just sit back enjoy the opportunity. Yeah, it's like, oh,

1855
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: phelps everybody. And at times I feel all kinds of

1856
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: weight on my shoulder, like you're Jason phelps, you build

1857
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: elk calls, you just kill an elk on every trip

1858
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: And this isn't I'm not making an excuse. I'm just

1859
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: trying to get to know for sure. I'm just enjoying

1860
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: the trip. Like I'm hear an Elk bugle every morning

1861
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: every day. We may not be getting on them, we

1862
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: may not be calling everyone in, but I'm I'm I'm

1863
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: just enjoying the entire experience, you know, hunting with Luke

1864
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: and Tyler and Jeremy and even the crew. You know,

1865
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: we laugh, we joke. Everybody's adding to it, and it's

1866
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: just it's been a very very fun trip. But Luke

1867
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: boiled it all down to It's like when you're in college,

1868
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: you want Kirkland, I say, Kirkland. See Koklin Beer. It's

1869
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: the cheapest beer you can get, the beer beer. You know,

1870
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: you want to just drink those as fast as you

1871
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: can versus now fast forward fifteen years. You just want

1872
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: one good beer. Yeah, And so it's like i want

1873
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: to enjoy it, you know, And that's what I'm trying

1874
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: to do here is just have a great time. Take

1875
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: in everything I can, you know, taking all the sights,

1876
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: the smells, the sounds, everything that these hunts have to give.

1877
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: And can't you know, couldn't be more stoked to put

1878
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: another day and a half in and see if we

1879
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: can't find the success that we all are still after

1880
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: for sure. Sure so appreciate having you guys on. Thanks

1881
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: for having to go warm up my cot. Yeah, taking

1882
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: that all right. Take care

1883
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Found