1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back in now number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Roll through 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: the Monday edition of the program. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: To Woke Disney and things getting ominous there, but I 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: wanted to hit this buck as we started off the 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: second hour. You know, I like to pay attention to 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: the betting odds in terms of who's going to be 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: the nominee. Who's going to be the president right now? 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Election betting odds Donald Trump sixty eight point one percent 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: chance if you wanted to gamble on this right now, 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Donald Trump sixty eight point one percent chance to be 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: the nominee. That's up eight points since May twenty third. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis eleven point one percent chance to be the nominee, 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: down seventeen points. Again, this is probability. This is the 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: odds market, down seventeen points since May. Vivek Ramaswami four 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: point nine percent, Tim Scott two point six percent, Nikki 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Haley two point two, Chris Christy one point nine uh 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: and Mike Pence under one percent chance to be the nominee. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that is a solid reflection of 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: sentiment broadly among the base right now. I think if 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: you walked around you asked anybody who's closely following politics 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: as a Republican what odds would you give? You know, 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 4: if I said to somebody, hey, you got a thousand 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 4: dollars you're gonna bet, what kind of odds do you want? 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty good reflection a meaning. I 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: think the betting market lines up very clearly here with 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: overall sentiment among the base. 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: And what I would say this is why you know, 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: spending time over the weekend looking at all this. Since 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: DeSantis has entered the race, his odds officially entered the race, 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: his odds have gone from twenty eight percent chance of 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: being the nominee to eleven percent. That's the exact opposite 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: of what you would have worn wanted to see happen. Now, 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: DeSantis is sitting down with Jake Tapper on CNN. We'll 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: see how exactly that interview goes. Does it create a 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: little bit of a stir And again, August twenty third, 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: that is the date where I think a lot of 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: people are going to make the argument that's where you 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: got to make your move. But you're seeing other potential candidates, 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: and I'll just point out, was it last week Glenn 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Youngkin reached out and asked for an opportunity to come 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: on and talk with us. Some of you say, may say, well, 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: why is that such a big deal if a candidate 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: wants to come on this show. Glenn Youngkin is not 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: a candidate. But if Glenn Youngkin is out there kind 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: of circling with this idea being, hey could I swoop 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: in if we have a really good house of I 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: think it's a House of Delegates right November election? There 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: could he create the idea of there's an opening there. 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's not a coincidence that he has 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: to come on this show last. 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: The cart getting way ahead of the horse here, to 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: be clear. But Trump will be if he wins, will 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: be inevitably in a position to be kingmaker, either for 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: his VP or perhaps for somebody else in twenty twenty eight, because, 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: as I keep reminding everybody, you only get four more 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 4: years of Trump even if he wins. 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: You know that's it, right. 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone thinks he's going to forget about 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: the two term things, so you only get four more years. 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: The thing that I would raise that nobody's talking about 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: what if he loses, why would he not run again 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: in twenty eight? 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: With nobody he would, And there'd be a lot of 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: people listening right now who would say the next time, 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: he'll definitely win, and you know, we'll see if that 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: ends up being what the base wants. 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: So my point is just a lot of people are like, well, 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: Trump twenty four, twenty eight is going to open up. 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: What if Trump lost again in twenty four? I don't know, 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: assuming he stays healthy, And I think you have to 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: say that with all of this, because we know Biden's 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: not healthy, but Trump's seventy seven, so any number of 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: health related issues could arise. But I think the thesis 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: of oh, when he gets charged, he's done. Oh the 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: momentum is moving against Trump, it's time. The momentum is 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: all on Trump's side right now, and so it's hard 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: to grab momentum. What is going to occur? I just 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: read you those gambling odds. By the way, if you 83 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: think that somebody out there is going to make a 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: big run and overtake Trump, I mean there's a lot 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: of money to be made. But right now, what is 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: going to change the trajectory? Okay, so put a pin 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: in that we'll continue to follow it. Buck Over, was 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: it Friday when these pictures went out? They are so 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: Disney woke Disney as I speak to you right now, 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: let me just start with this. Disney stock is tanking today. 91 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: The market is up minimally, it's not a big day 92 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: one way or the other. Disney stock is down almost 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: three dollars. If you are a Disney shareholder, I am sorry. 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: Let me hit you with this, buck Disney stock right now. 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: If you bought Disney stock in October of twenty fourteen, 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: October of twenty fourteen, that is basically nine years ago, 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: Disney is the same price. 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: As it was nine years ago. So if you went. 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: Out and you put your hard earned money, you said, man, 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: you know what, I love the Walt Disney Company. This 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: company's not going anywhere. It's going to continue to dominate. 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: You put your money down in the fall of twenty fourteen. 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: Right now, the stock price is effectively the exact same 104 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: as it was then, and the stock is down almost 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: three dollars today. 106 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 3: Why is it down three dollars today? Buck. 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: I think it has something to do with Friday. A 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: story came out that as a sign of how they've 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: lost all connection with creativity at Disney. They are now 110 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: remaking live action versions of all of the animated movies 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: that they did, so Aladdin, Lion King, they just had 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: The Little Mermaid come out. These are real actors, and 113 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: I say live action, I mean humans as opposed to cartoons. 114 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: They're now doing a It's supposed to be out, I 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: believe in March of twenty twenty four a snow White remake, 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: and snow White memorably has seven dwarf friends. They have 117 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: decided that that is not acceptable in the remake, so 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: they have only one dwarf and then they have six 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: I would say, sort of androgynous, creepy looking, fully grown 120 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: dwarfs that are supposed to be snow White's friends. And 121 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: these pictures went viral on Friday. Buck and Disney tried 122 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: to say, oh no, this. 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 3: Is not real. 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, it is evidently real shots, live action shots of 125 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: this movie being made, and Disney has lost its way 126 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: and the parks are setting decade lows in attendance. Bob Iger, 127 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: the CEO of Disney tried to come out and say, well, 128 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: July fourth was a decade low because it was hot 129 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: and humid. And for anybody who has ever been to 130 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: Orlando in July, newsflash, it is always hot and humid 131 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: in Orlando in July. And we had a listener, Buck, 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: send me ten years of data for July fourth weather 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: conditions in Orlando, and this past July fourth virtually indistinguishable 134 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: from the past ten July fourth. So Bob Iger caught 135 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: in a lie there saying it's weather. Over the weekend, 136 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: I saw pictures Disney World, not very big crowds at all. 137 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: I think that woke Disney. 138 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: This is one where Desantos was one hundred percent right, 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: and I think to sayis won this battle against Disney. 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: And I believe the Disney brand is cratering in the 141 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: minds of many parents, many of whom are listening to 142 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: us right now. You're not a parent yet, Buck, but 143 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: do you pick up on this super negative vibe associated 144 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: with Disney right now? 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 146 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And the people are speaking based on what you've 147 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: seen happen with the recent major Disney releases, which have 148 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: all been way below Remember there's a lot of ways 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: they play games too, with how much the movie costs, 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: what expectations are No one's talking. When was the last 151 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: time there was a big Disney release aimed at children? 152 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: It would probably be Frozen, right, I mean, which goes 153 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: back to a Frozen two. I mean we're going back 154 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: now a few years and they're putting out movies all 155 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: the time, so they're having a lot that don't I 156 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: didn't even realize there was a Frozen two. God, they're 157 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: having a lot of people, I think show them that 158 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 4: they don't want this indoctrination. But I think what you're 159 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 4: also seeing and some of us I've been warning about 160 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: this phenomenon for a long time. The people making these 161 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: decisions are not just doing it because they think it's 162 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: good business. They are true believers, so they're willing to 163 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: take a company, in this case Disney, that was built 164 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: by other people, a brand built by an envisioned by 165 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: Walt Disney, and run it, if not into the ground, 166 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: certainly down close to the ground because they think that 167 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: that makes them better people, and this is what's better 168 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: for America. So it's not because it never The old 169 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: argument used to be Hollywood's just left wing, because like 170 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: that's what the people want. 171 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: That's a lie. It's not true. 172 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: They've had massive flops that are every time they do 173 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: something that's highly, highly political, especially aimed at children, it's 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: very risky for them. But that's why. And I also 175 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: i'd never understood why. I saw a little bit of 176 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: the Frozen, the first Frozen once and I did not 177 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: understand it's not as good as the old Disney. But 178 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: that's a whole other thing, don't I don't get guy. 179 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: People like it so much. 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: So Frozen two did really well. But let me hit 181 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: you with these facts. Buck Elements Elemental. Elemental is the 182 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: newest Pixar movie, lowest grossing debut for a Pixar movie ever. 183 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: Disney just shut down a Star Wars hotel at Disney 184 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: World in Orlando. They never shut down hotels they could, 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: didn't have enough demand. The price was two out of 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: whack ten year lows in amusement park crowds. Indiana Jones 187 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: episode five, the one that just came out, The Dial 188 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: of Destiny is going to lose several hundred million dollars 189 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: potentially before all is said and done. You've got the 190 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: ESPN cable and cord cutting disaster that is going on 191 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: every single element of Disney. Oh, Disney Plus subscriptions are down. 192 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: That is, less people are subscribed to Disney Plus most 193 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: recently in the quarter than we're subscribed to the quarter before. 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: Every single front for Disney has collapsed. And we hit 195 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: you with this a while back. But Disney is now 196 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: one of the five. I believe it was the fifth 197 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: most polarizing brand in America that Axios tested. Democrats have 198 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: a little bit higher of an opinion of Disney. In 199 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: the wake of the fight with Ron DeSantis, the opinions 200 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: of Republicans with Disney has cratered. There's a major issue 201 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: going on here again, stock down three dollars. I think 202 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: it's connected to the snow white, woke Disney bs that 203 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: came out. I think also to Bob Eiger's interview that 204 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: he gave on Wednesday. Probably also an impact where there's 205 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: nervousness about the fact that the actors and actresses are 206 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: on strike in conjunction with the writers. But Disney stock 207 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 2: is again just think about it, exact same price effectively 208 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: that it was nine years ago. 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: That's almost unheard of. 210 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: And I think that Disney is in danger more so 211 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: than bud Light is because bud Light at least Anheuser 212 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: Busch has so many different brands that it's unlikely one 213 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: brand tanking is going to destroy the business. 214 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: There. 215 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Disney, every one of their brands is tanking simultaneously. This 216 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: is a mess, and I don't know how they rectify it, 217 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: but it certainly is not with androgynous non dwarfs in 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: a remake of snow White. Also, you know one thing 219 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: that I see, maybe this is just my perception from 220 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: recent forays into just oh, look at this random thing 221 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: on Netflix or look at this random it really seems 222 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: like they are Also there's been a change in I'm 223 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: just going to say it, they're not hiring the best 224 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: writers anymore. It's very clear that for a lot of 225 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: these shows and series they are hiring writers based on 226 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: inclusion and other concerns because some of this stuff they're 227 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: spending tons of money on. 228 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: It's just garbage. It's just not good. It's not at 229 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: a high level. They're not using their best on a 230 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: lot of major projects because of all of the pressure, 231 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: and people in Hollywood will talk about this sometimes. Now, 232 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: all the pressure sure to pick somebody that's going to 233 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: be groundbreaking in the role writing. You know whether any 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: number of different categories you could look at for this. 235 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: I mean I watched this over the weekend. So so 236 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: Carrie had a dinner with with some of her lady friends. 237 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: They had a girl's night. It was funny because they're like, 238 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: do you want I said no, No, this means I 239 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: get to wear pajamas and watch like whatever I want. 240 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: You know, I was very excited, So I was looking 241 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: for someone to watch. I turned on this. Uh it's 242 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: a It was a movie they spend one hundred million 243 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: dollars on with Adam Driver where he gets dropped on 244 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: a planet with dinosaurs. It was unwatchable garbage. 245 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: I mean it was truly. 246 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: I could write a better movie in one day and 247 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: I'm not even a screenwriter. They spend one hundred million 248 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: dollars on this movie. When you go and you look 249 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: into it, oh, you're like, oh, okay, who's behind this, 250 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: who's involved? What messages are they pushing and push pushing, 251 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 4: And you say to yourself, it's not about what's gonna 252 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: work with the audience anymore. It's about the people making 253 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: this stuff trying to convince people of what to think. 254 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: And I will leave you with this from a business perspective, 255 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: streaming is a disaster. The only company so far that 256 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: has made money off streaming existing is Netflix. Disney's lost 257 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: eleven billion dollars total on streaming so far, billion with 258 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: a b buck paramount, all of these HBO Max, all 259 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: of them hemorrhaging cash while having to spend a lot 260 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: of money on these crappy movies. Only Netflix has been 261 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: profitable at streaming at all. I mean, Paramount's been terrible 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: and didn't aren't they? And what Peacock? How's Peacock doing awful? 263 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 6: Right? 264 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: Because all doing awful? 265 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: Nobody subscribes at Peacock unless they want to watch the 266 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: Office reruns that badly. 267 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: That's it. That's the only reason anybody I've ever heard of. 268 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Subscribe to p cut. The idea buck that they tried 269 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: to sell was streaming will save you money because you 270 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: won't have to necessarily pay for a cable satellite subscription anymore. 271 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: But the problem is you're paying more now for all 272 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: these different streaming services. Some people still keep the cable 273 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: in satellite. But even if you cut cable and satellite, 274 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: you're paying or now to try to get all these 275 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: streaming services. 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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 302 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: Clay, we've got a whole bunch of our VIPs weighing 303 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: into with emails here about the politics. What we're talking 304 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: about there, Please go to Clayanbuck dot com. Become a VIP. 305 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: Look. People feel very passionate about what's going on right now. 306 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: We can appreciate that. Let's start with Clay. I'm delaying 307 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: because my computer froze, So if. 308 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: You have them as I'm about to read the VIP 309 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: even there we go, Hey, guys, Alex interesting DeSantis Trump discussion. 310 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: DeSantis has a big problem. If the primary comes down 311 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: to competence and administrative reality, DeSantis would be walking away. 312 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: Since he's not, we can assume we have a large 313 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: number of people emotionally invested in Trump regardless of his ability. 314 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: I don't know how DeSantis overcomes that. Clay, what do 315 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: you make of this from Alex the VIP. 316 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: I think it's true, and I think that's where I 317 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: was going with As we sit here two months into 318 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: the DeSantis campaign, Remember you can focus on DeSantis, who's 319 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: been the clear number two to Trump for. 320 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: A year now. 321 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: Basically the challenge is nobody else is really surging either. 322 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: In fact, Trump has solidified his base of support over 323 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: the last sixty days. So the question I started the 324 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: show with today that we were debating, is what's going 325 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: to happen that's going to alter the dynamics here. While 326 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: keeping in mind that in July of twenty fifteen, Trump 327 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: became the favorite and everybody kept saying, oh, somebody else 328 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: is going to take him down. 329 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: It never happened. 330 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: Trump is in a stronger position today in July of 331 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three than he was in July of twenty fifteen, 332 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: and he cruised to the nomination last year. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck 349 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody hanging out with us as we 350 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: roll through the program and continue to break down everything 351 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: moving on in the world of world of politics and beyond. 352 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: We're joined now by Bridget Ziggler, co founder of Moms 353 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: for Liberty. You guys, Bridget, first of all, thanks for 354 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 2: joining us. You've been in the center of the media 355 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: onslaught here of late, but I first became aware of 356 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: the organization Moms for Liberty where I live in Franklin, Tennessee. 357 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: Because you guys were so outspoken in fighting against mask 358 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: mandates and ensuring that kids were back in school. You 359 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: were one hundred percent right on all that. I've been 360 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: a fan of your organization ever since. I was one 361 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: of those parents, not a mom, but a dad who 362 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: showed up and fought for liberty for my kids in 363 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: their public school in Williamson County, Tennessee. 364 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: Here. 365 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever think that being a mom and fighting 366 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: for kids would end up being such a controversial position 367 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: to find yourself in. 368 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's two things. 369 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 8: I think it's I'm not surprised in the education space 370 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 8: because the left has had a domination over K twelve 371 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 8: education for decades. 372 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 7: I'm a school board member still in Sarasota, Florida. 373 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 8: That's Tina and Tiffany who are also the co founders 374 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 8: and still leading the charge of Moms for Liberty, also 375 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 8: school board members and moms, So we saw behind the curtain. 376 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 7: So this was before necessarily everyone knew what was happening. 377 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: But what I find. 378 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 8: Hilarious though, is how desperate the left is to come 379 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 8: back and regain control by trying to disparage parents, moms 380 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 8: and dads who have never been active in the political process, 381 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 8: who are just fighting to protect their children and calling 382 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 8: them every name under the sun, it hopes to call 383 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 8: them and it helps to shut them down. 384 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 7: But I can tell you the national. 385 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 8: Summit that we just had in Philadelphia, these moms and 386 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 8: dads are fired up. They're not backing down, and I 387 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 8: think it has the left really scared. 388 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: All right. 389 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 4: So I wanted to call for Jensaki here and let 390 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: you respond to her. Play that clip. 391 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 9: Since the height of the COVID pandemic, schools, teachers, and 392 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: administrators all come the target of right wing anger. That anger, 393 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 9: no doubt, sparked the rise of organizations now focused on 394 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 9: taking over school boards, pulling books from the shelves, and 395 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 9: changing curriculums and schools across the country. Among the largest 396 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 9: of these new groups, which you may have heard of, 397 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 9: is Moms for Liberty Now. The group has declared itself 398 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 9: as a non partisan organization, and its name does sound 399 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 9: innocuous enough. Moms great, sounds good, liberty awesome. Who doesn't 400 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 9: like liberty? Moms for Liberty. As the mom of two 401 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 9: young kids, that even sounds good to me. But this 402 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 9: group brings out the worst in people. The group says 403 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 9: this work, all of this shouting is the work of 404 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 9: joyful warriors, is. 405 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 6: What they call. 406 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 9: It sounds a lot more to me like pretty aggressive harassment. 407 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: I want to let you respond Bridget to MSNBC's Jensaki 408 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: here again, I think. 409 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 8: The disparagement is their desperate attempts to try to change 410 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 8: you mentioned earlier about the book discussion. I have them here, 411 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 8: We show them around and walk around with them to 412 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 8: illustrate to people what we're talking about, because notice the 413 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 8: left never ever talks about what it is that we're 414 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 8: trying to get out of the education, out of our 415 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 8: public schools, and they try to make it sound like 416 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 8: it's all innocent. The reality is that at the beginning, 417 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 8: when parents were getting involved and they would read these 418 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 8: items in the paper or hear someone like Jen Zaki 419 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 8: make this, you know, accusation, it is only grown the 420 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 8: movement more because these are people who aren't used to 421 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 8: being in the paper. 422 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 7: I've been in politics for a while now, so I'm 423 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 7: not as to it. 424 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 8: But these are people for the first time who have 425 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 8: been vilified and incorrectly disparaged, and then they go and 426 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 8: talk to their neighbors and they go talk to their 427 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 8: neighbors because they know each other and they know that 428 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 8: they're caring about their children, and this only growing the 429 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 8: movement even more so. In Florida, we're really fortunate for 430 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 8: the leadership that we've had and Governor Rond de Santa's 431 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 8: and state legislature been able to put laws in place 432 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 8: where we're able to protect our students, and a lot 433 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 8: of places across the country are trying to follow suit 434 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 8: so that we can restore education back to our children's focus, 435 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 8: academic basics. 436 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 7: It's across party lines. 437 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 8: Over sixty percent plus of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans all 438 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 8: believe educations on the wrong track and they want to 439 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 8: get back to the basics. And that's what some Moms 440 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 8: for Liberty is fighting for. 441 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bridget, we were just talking about Disney and the 442 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: idea that we would have ever had a woke Walt 443 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Disney company seem crazy. You mentioned Florida and the battle 444 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: with Ron DeSantis down there. What do you think as 445 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: a parent, because I've got three relatively young kids myself, 446 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of in disbelief that we've ever entered 447 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: into a place where when a new Disney movie comes out, 448 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: I have to think, oh, is this age appropriate? Should 449 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: I even take my kids to go see it? Isn't 450 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: that kind of emblematic in general of the newfound struggle 451 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: that parents find themselves in. 452 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 3: We don't even know hardly who our allies are. 453 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 7: The one hundred percent. 454 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 8: So I have three children under the age of ten, 455 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 8: and so are the same thing goes you wanted to 456 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 8: There are certain established areas or companies or organizations that 457 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 8: you felt safe. School was one of those places, by 458 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 8: the way, and all, but not, we're finding that we 459 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 8: have to pull back the onion and vet everything more 460 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 8: meticulously because there are specific agendas being pushed that are 461 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 8: really intended to sexualize our children. They only have a 462 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 8: short amount of time to be kids, and we need 463 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 8: to fight very hard as parents and his grandparents and 464 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 8: aunts and uncles to protect the next generation of leaders 465 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 8: so that they can enjoy their youth, understand how to 466 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 8: be critical thinkers, and build upon those foundations without having 467 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 8: these sexualized liberal agendas put their throat through organizations and 468 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 8: public education. 469 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: You know. 470 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 4: Barack Obama. Bridget shared a tweet out where he was 471 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: decrying all of the book banning that is going on, 472 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: and this, of course is meant to be a shot 473 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: at not just desantist policy in Florida, but organizations like 474 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: yours claiming that you are banning books. What is the 475 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: reality of the position of monster liberty? And when the left, 476 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: whether it's MSNBC, Obama or the Biden Whitehouse, talks about 477 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: book bans, what are they really talking about. 478 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 8: So at the end of the day, the word is 479 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 8: used to sensationalize and create emotion to people where they 480 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 8: want to stop the conversation and not really get down 481 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 8: to the depths of what parents are pushing back on 482 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 8: what the material is that is so alarming. I'm now 483 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: on the advisory board for Moms Liberty as an initial 484 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 8: co founder, and one of the aspects that we talk 485 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 8: about is truly just about ensuring that parental rights at 486 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 8: every level of government, and that includes to make sure 487 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 8: public education has the barriers and stays within the inside 488 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 8: those guidelines. 489 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 7: That is respectful of all. 490 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 8: The diverse communities that we serve at a public school, 491 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 8: which have different religious backgrounds, political backgrounds, and cultural backgrounds. 492 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 8: And I'll tell you one thing that the Lofts has 493 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 8: not been able to do. That we have found through 494 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 8: this fight, through the parental rights fight, is we're unifying 495 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 8: people of all different backgrounds based on the great they 496 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 8: want is to be able to children the way they 497 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 8: see fit, versus the government raising their children or putting 498 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 8: in instilling certain beliefs or moral beliefs that are that 499 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 8: run contrary to many families. 500 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: That Bridget Ziegler, VP of school Board Programs at the 501 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 4: Leadership Institute and co founder and advisory board member of 502 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: Moms for Liberty, Bridget keep up the good work all 503 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: right tunnel. 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We 528 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: got lines lit, we got vip emails flowing in, and 529 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: we want to get to a lot of it now. 530 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: Coming up though, in the next hour, I just want 531 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: to let you know, we'll talk about this exam in 532 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: New York City, this teacher's exam that now because of 533 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: disparate outcome in the testing has been ruled not just 534 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: racially discriminatory, but they're paying people who took the test 535 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: years ago, who are minorities and did not pass millions 536 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: of dollars. That money comes from taxpayers in New York, 537 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: and now millions and millions of dollars are going to 538 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: people who fail the test, and we're just told that 539 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: it's it's racist because because some people pass the test, 540 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: some people didn't Asian and white test takers. This is 541 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 4: for a teaching certification in New York. Asian and white 542 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 4: test takers did substantially considerably in the aggregate, not of 543 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: course in every case, and the aggregate better. Therefore the 544 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: test is racist. Very similar to the argument that people 545 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: make about the SAT. But people just realize at some level, Okay, well, 546 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: what are we testing and what's the How is the 547 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: outcome supposed to be changed based upon disparate impact? So 548 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: we'll get to some of that. But Clay, let's see 549 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: we have here. Paul Lette writes in says, I'm sixty 550 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: five and I follow politics. Hence I listened to your show. Paulette, 551 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: you have excellent taste. I do believe President Trump will 552 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: easily receive the Republican nomination. The big question, which I 553 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: will post to Clay is this, Well, the suburban Republican 554 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: women who do not like Trump, but will not consider 555 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: voting for Biden, vote for Trump, or not vote at all. 556 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: I think Paullette clearly listens the show a lot. It's 557 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: very politically as student, this is the question, what do 558 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: you make of it? 559 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot can change assuming that Trump 560 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: were than nominee. This to me is the electability argument 561 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 2: for DeSantis because and they haven't been able to make 562 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: it. It hasn't been resonating with Republicans. But I think Casey 563 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: DeSantis and those three kids epitomize what your average suburban 564 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: mom would want her family to look like. Generally speaking, 565 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: the average mom out there would love to be Casey DeSantis. 566 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: Successful husband, three beautiful kids, and Casey DeSantis smart and 567 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: accomplished in her own right as an individual in her 568 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: own career. Before that she worked in news. All of 569 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: those things I think, beyond the shadow of a doubt, 570 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: that really is compelling. So I do think DeSantis when 571 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: it comes to suburban moms, when it comes to suburban 572 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: Grandma's where we have the call to end the first 573 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: hour buck, a lot of women are just challenged when 574 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: it comes to supporting Trump. Men are going to vote 575 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly Republican and increasingly, there's a good Pew study that 576 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: came out Buck, increasingly Asian, Hispanic and Black men moving 577 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: towards the Republican Party that age that sex gap is growing. 578 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: But I think that's the challenge and I think the 579 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: electability argument for DeSantis. 580 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: And Vivek made this with us on Friday. 581 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 6: Buck. 582 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: He said, Look, if I get into the ring against 583 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: Biden or against a Democrat, I won't just win, I'll 584 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: win a landslide. I think that's the argument. Trump wins 585 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: in twenty four by people not showing up who showed 586 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: up to vote for Biden. And it's still going to 587 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: be super close. Yeah, twenty four is going to be 588 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: like sixteen, like twenty It's not going to be a landslide. 589 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: Let's take actually want to take Mike in Westlake, Wisconsin. 590 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: I think he's got a very good point to make 591 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: in the after after action of our discussion with Bridget Ziegler. 592 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: Mike, what have you got for us? 593 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? That was Rice Lake, Wisconsin and first time caller, 594 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: longtime listen to Rush. The left always accuses the right 595 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: of doing exactly what they do to us. You know, 596 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 5: they're talking about the book banning in our public schools. Well, 597 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: what about what they did with Mark Twain and To 598 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: Kill a Mockingbird? 599 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: You know, like you, I think, Mike, this is an 600 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: excellent point because the books that are being no longer 601 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: shared with children as a result of either DeSantis policy 602 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: in Florida or Moms for Liberty of these groups show 603 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: people engaged in graphic sex acts. Actually the like well 604 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: that's what it shows them. Yeah, doing things that I 605 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: can't really describe on the radio because there are kids 606 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: that listen to this and see how I don't want 607 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: to describe it. But we can all figure out what 608 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: we're talking about here. The books the left has a 609 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: problem with and want to actively rewrite and edit wholesale, 610 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 4: not just for kids, for everybody, are not woke enough. 611 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: And some of them classics of literature. I mean, you know, 612 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: you'll you'll never you don't. Mark Twain comes under fire, 613 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: Kipling comes under fire, Shakespeare comes under fire. That's what 614 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: they That's what they have problems with. 615 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is where and Bridget if she's still 616 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: listening in the Moms for Liberty, I think that the 617 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: argument here is it's age appropriateness. 618 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: It's not book banning. 619 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: If you desperately believe that your kid needs to read 620 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: one of these books that no longer is going to 621 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: be in a library because not age appropriate. 622 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: You can go buy it form. 623 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: And this is not revolutionary because this is how every 624 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: movie h BSPG AG thirteen are. 625 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: Does anyone think has anyone made the argument that there's 626 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: a movie ban because there are rated R movies in theaters. 627 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: It's not a ban, right, This is just. 628 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: This is a huge This is parenting, especially in the 629 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Summer book. I meant you used to sneak into movie 630 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 2: theaters back in the day. Sometimes are rated movie some 631 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: of your Jean Claude van dam and you're oh yeah 632 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: Zenegger in Leicester Stolone movies. 633 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: I remember being a kid in the eighties. 634 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: We would get into R rated movies a lot of 635 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: times violent movies. 636 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 637 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: And the question that parents have to decide is what 638 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: is and what is not age appropriate. It's not a banning. 639 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: An R rated movie is not banned, right, it exists. 640 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: It's just not always appropriate for kids to be watching. 641 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: And that's what's going on. 642 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: And I think it's also important to note why have 643 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: they picked this as the hill that they want to 644 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: fight on. Why is it so important to the left 645 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: that your third grader is looking at books with graphic 646 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: depictions of and it's not just to be clear, it's 647 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: not just sex. 648 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: It's always. 649 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: Sex acts that the that you know are specifically in 650 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: some cases depicted from the LGBTQ plus community, and they 651 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: want to describe it in detail. And there there's a 652 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: reason they're picking that they're picking this battle. They're the 653 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 4: ones that insist that these books have to be shown 654 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 4: to kids, and young kids at that This isn't about 655 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: it's not even about high schoids. We're talking about grammar 656 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: school kids. It's crazy. 657 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: It's wild that to Kill a Mockingbird would be considered 658 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: age and appropriate because of the racial elements. And that 659 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: is something one of the classics, as you mentioned, Shakespeare, 660 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 2: William Faulkner, Tony Morrison, like, there are lots of different 661 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: authors out there whose language, their language choices are challenged, 662 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: oftentimes by people on the left, and yet they want 663 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: young kids exposed to issues of second I remember this 664 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: is you know, pre internet, which make reminds us of 665 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: what life was like when you were growing up. 666 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: But I remember I had a library, a school library 667 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 4: here in New York and I used to be able 668 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 4: to go in there when I was a grammar school 669 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: kid and take out books. I never once saw a 670 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: graphic depiction of and by the way, not even they're 671 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: not even just graphic depictions of adults. They will show 672 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 4: graphic depictions of minors in these books that are supposed 673 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: to be explanatory or you know, and you say, what 674 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 4: the heck is this? I never saw that when I 675 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: was growing up, but they want kids today to see it. 676 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: There's something really wrong here, Trevor. In it just says Wheatland. 677 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: So Trevor, what's going on? 678 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 6: Good morning, how you doing. 679 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 3: We're good, sir. 680 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 6: I was calling in earlier about your comments on Disney, 681 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 6: and I just found it a very interesting and in fact, 682 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 6: a lot of this ties into the same thing you 683 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 6: were just talking about with the school books and everything else. 684 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: Colored campaigns. It's a lot of the same type of 685 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 6: propaganda used in other countries to kind of tear it 686 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 6: apart and set precedents for different things. 687 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: Keep going, what do you mean. 688 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 6: When you want to install a new government, you get 689 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 6: the local populace to fight on different fronts and separate 690 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: each other from each other. Okay, so a lot of 691 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 6: the school choice. These things, they're not wanting one side 692 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 6: or the other to win. They're wanting that fight right there, 693 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 6: that conflict, and then they want to start another conflict 694 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 6: with the TV, and they want to start another conflict 695 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: with Disney. All of this is all the same thing. 696 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 6: It's a giant color campaign to sit here and go. 697 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: I see. 698 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: So you're saying it's like the malcontents, the Bolsheviks just 699 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 4: want to undermine and destroy everything worthwhile in our society 700 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: and then rise from the rubble. 701 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 6: No, no, no, not like that at all. I think another 702 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 6: source from outside, and I don't know what that is, 703 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 6: is causing certain conflicts to weaken and destabilize those Well. 704 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: Now that sounds crazy to me. So you lost me, buddy,