1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Euroup for this Tuesday, the sixteenth 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: of May in London. Coming up today. Running out of steam, 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: China's recovery worries mount as data disappoints. Not paying off 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: UK wage rises are set to keep the Bank of 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: England on edge and higher for longer. The Fed's bossed, 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: it tells Bloomberg Radio. There's still a way to go 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: on inflation. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: CEO, pay packages for Hugh Pills. Sorry for inflammatory remarks, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: and the rise and rise of casual workwere those are 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: the stories we're looking at in today's papers. And I'm 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: leanne Gerrins. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Plus taxing times one in five Brits are to start 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: paying the forty percent rates. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The Business 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: news you need to start your day in just one 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Caroline Hepka. Let's get into our top stories. 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: China's consumer spending and industrial activity grew at a slower 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: pace than expected in April. The data adds to science 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: that the economic recovery in the country is losing momentum. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Industrial production rows five point six percent from a year earlier. 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: That is significantly lower than the ten point nine percent 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg survey of economists had forecast. JP Morgan's chief 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: China economists he Bin Ju, says that the numbers are 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: a cause for concern. 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 4: Today's depa is a big miss ip. I find them 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: most surprising because if you look at the esport data, 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: very much in line expectation, so that tells you that 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: domestic demand there's a major bottleneck. We're losing the recurri 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: momentum very quickly. 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Iman Ju there also points out that the figures look 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: better than the reality, given that parts of China were 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: in lockdown this time last year. The UK will release 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: its latest batch of labor market data today. Another hot 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: wage print will do little to ease policymakers' worries. Bloomberg 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Economics forecast that total pay growth excluding bonuses will rise 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to six point eight percent year on year. That is 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: up from six point six percent previously. The data comes 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: as former Bank of England governor Mervin King warns central 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: banks against making precise forecasts on inflation. He spoke to 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: bloombergs Alex Steel and Guy Johnson. 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: The circumstances of a pandemic and what threed happening in 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: Ukraine mean that it is foolish to try to pretend 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 5: that one could forecast accurately. And I think that the 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 5: point forecasts of GDP growings and inflation, I mean inflation 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: will be three point one percent whatever that that's far 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: too precise. We do not know about for refusion to 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: make those forecasts. What we need to do is to 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: identify risks. 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Mervin King also pointed out that inflation figures in no 52 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: way anti dissipate where the future prices might go. The 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: Bank of England lifted rates by twenty five basis points 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: at its May meeting to four and a half percent, 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: and economists are forecasting at least one more hike. Two 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve officials are raising the prospect of a pause 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: in US hikes. Chicago's Austin Goolsby says that his May 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: vote is going to be a close call, and Atlanta 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: FED president Raphael Bostik told Bloomberg Radio that businesses are 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: starting to feel the crunch. 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 6: If I had to have a vote right now, I'd 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 6: probably vote to hold. But as you noted, we got 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 6: two more inflation readings. We have a jobs number of 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: jobs report that's got to come out. There's a lot 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 6: more information we're going to have as to what's going on. 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: In a separate CNBC interview, boss Stick said that he 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: doesn't expect rate cuts until well into twenty twenty four. 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Traders disagree. They're betting that the central Bank will begin 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: cutting later this year. Now, I mentioned US Treasury Secretary 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen. She says that the debt ceiling standoff is 71 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: already hurting the economy, and her warning is backed by 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the Securities in Exchange Commission Chair Gary Gensler. He says 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: that treasury prices are already shifting. 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 7: We've already seen some pricing stress around short term bills, 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 7: treasury bills and the like, a little bit of changes 76 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 7: in the actually the sovereign credit to fought swap spreads. 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 7: But if we were to go over the X day, 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 7: I think that you'd see breakdowns off through the market. 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Well, that X date that Gensler talked about there refers 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: to the moment that the US defolds. President Biden meets 81 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: with his Republican counterparts later today to try and resolve 82 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: the impasse. However, how Speaker Kevin McCarthy says, quote, we 83 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: are nowhere near reaching a conclusion in the talks to 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: raise the debt ceiling. One in five tax payers will 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: be paying a higher rate of in come tax by 86 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven as a result of a stealth raid 87 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: by the Prime Minister Rishisunak. This, according to new analysis 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's U and POTS reports, now an. 89 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 8: Extra two and a half million people we're paying tax 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 8: at forty percent or more on some of their earnings 91 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 8: if income tax thresholds remain frozen. That's the warning from 92 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 8: the Institute for Fiscal Studies. Rishisunac's government is currently planning 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 8: a six year freeze to thresholds, pulling people into higher 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 8: tax bans as wages rise, a phenomenon known as fiscal drag. 95 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 8: The IFS says that higher rates OFCOM tax used to 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 8: be reserved only for the wealthiest, but by twenty twenty seven, 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 8: it says, about one in four teachers and one in 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 8: eight nurses can expect to face them. The report estimates 99 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 8: a third of the expected record fall in household InCom 100 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 8: this year is likely to be a result of this 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 8: tax policy. In London. I'mune pots Booberg Daybreak Europe. 102 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Prime Minister has pledged support for a coalition 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: to help provide Ukraine with a fleet of Western made 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: fighter jets. However, rishisunac stopped short of promising actual aircraft. 105 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister also committed to giving Ukraine more attack 106 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: drones and air defense systems. 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 9: All right, we are here for the long term. We 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 9: remain steadfast in wanting to defend Ukraine, not just now 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 9: to reclaim its rightful territory, but also to ensure that 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 9: Ukraine has a mean to defend itself into the future 111 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 9: as well. 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Now soon, I've made the comments doing a surprise visit 113 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: by his Ukrainian counterpart to the uk Vlodimir Zelenski. Kiev 114 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: is seeking additional supplies of weapons from allies as it 115 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: prepares for a counter offensive against Russian forces in the country. Right, 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: those were a few of our top stories for you 117 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: this morning. Look, I think the story around guilt is 118 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: actually really important to note. There's a really nice piece 119 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: on the terminal this morning by Bloomberg's Marcus Ashworth. The 120 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: points to this fact that there is a flood of 121 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: guilt supply and it's coming to the four this week 122 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: with the forty year guilt sale today, because of course 123 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: it's beginning to overwhelm investors, simply because of the about 124 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: face that we've seen. The Bank of England has turned 125 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: from being the largest net buyer in the last decade 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: of gilts to becoming now an active seller. And perhaps 127 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: that is too quick for markets to digest. Remember, the 128 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: ten year UK guilt yield is three point eight percent, 129 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: so quite a few notches hard than the US equivalent 130 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: at about three and a half percent. And also we've 131 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: underperformed German bo so I think that Guilt Cell this 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: morning will be quite interesting to watch. On a slightly 133 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: lighter note, though, Martha Stewart on the front cover of 134 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, do you know that the Queen of Domesticity 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: and Cooking, of course, is eighty one, the oldest swimsuit 136 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: model ever to grace the cover. I don't know what 137 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: this says about representation. Perhaps the older women are coming 138 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: more to the four, she told the Today's Show on Monday. 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: For me tis a testament to good living, and all 140 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 1: of us should think about good living, success for living, 141 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: and not about aging. There you go and moto for 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: us all to live by this morning. Right Aside from that, though, 143 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: on a more serious note, let's go back to the 144 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: China data, shall we. It disappointed this morning, sluggish consumer 145 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: spending and industrial activity growth. So let's discuss with our 146 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: economic editor for Greater China, James Maker, who joins me 147 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: live on Beijing this morning. James, thanks so much for 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: your time. So China's reopening energy, then it really does 149 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: look to be fading. Is the problem problem more domestic 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: or is it more global? 151 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 10: It's both. I mean, I think the main problem is 152 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 10: a domestic economy is that is slowing and is not 153 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 10: growing as fast as people had expected. Part of the 154 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 10: reason for that is that global demand is also quite 155 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 10: slished this year. You're seeing Chinese exports in April falling 156 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 10: back to you know, not growing very quickly. So you 157 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 10: know there is a summer effect and you know slowing 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 10: global demand. You know the writing interstrates you're seeing in 159 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 10: Europe and America are having some effect. But it really 160 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 10: is domestic weakness story. I think. You know, housing market 161 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 10: is still in contraction. You know, retail sales is not 162 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 10: growing very particularly strongly, and also industrial airport really weakened 163 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 10: that much weak and expect it. So all those things combiny. 164 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 10: I mean that you know that surprising on the downside 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 10: today from the Chinese, From the Chinese. 166 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Data, yeah absolutely, I mean the retail sales rose eighteen 167 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: point four percent, but that was a lot less than expectations. 168 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: Industrial production five point six percent. So look, what do 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: you think authorities are going to do? Are they going 170 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: to add more monetary easing? The PBOC made a move 171 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: on Monday for long term liquidity, but will there be more? 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 10: I mean, the interesting thing the PBOC brought out their 173 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 10: first quarterly Monetary Policy Statement yesterday afternoon, which is kind 174 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 10: of like the you know, like most of the central 175 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 10: banks do it every month or what have you. The 176 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 10: pocs are four times a year, and it was there's 177 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 10: a split in how people are reading that statement. They 178 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 10: did drop this phrase that they've used since the twenty 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 10: twenty one about not flooding the economy is stimulus, and 180 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 10: some economists and some analysts are taking that as a 181 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 10: sign there is going to be much more monetary stimulus 182 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 10: coming down the pipeline. But they also had a new 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 10: section in the policy statement about how the PBOC has 184 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 10: been keeping monetary policy stable, has been keeping interest rate 185 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 10: policy stable, sort of emphasizing the fact that they're trying 186 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 10: to thread this middle line between too much and too little, 187 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 10: and a lot of people also, a lot of different 188 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 10: analysts took that as a sign they're going to be very, 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 10: very reticent to add monetary stillness. So it's very you know, 190 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 10: the views of what the PBOC is going to do 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 10: are split at this time. Our understanding, you know, from 192 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 10: what we've seen, they've been trying to add some liquidity 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 10: to financial markets, but they haven't you know, they haven't 194 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 10: been really aggressive in the past through the pandemic, they 195 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 10: haven't been aggressive in monetary policy, and we've seen no 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 10: kinds of real change in that. So really then it's 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 10: down to the fiscal authorities, to the government. What are 198 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 10: they going to do to try and help the housing market, 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 10: What are they going to try and do to help 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 10: retail sales and private consumption to bounce back. Yeah. 201 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, also you've got to think about how 202 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: sustainable the recovery is and what those policy makers will 203 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,239 Speaker 1: do about one particular red flag, which is youth unemployment. 204 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: We've talked about this in the past, but it's hits 205 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: another record high twenty point four percent. 206 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 10: Right, we're not looking at levels of you know, Spain 207 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 10: during the during the global financial crisis of you know, 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 10: the thirty forty percent of young people out of work, 209 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 10: but twenty percent is a record high, as you say, 210 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 10: and it's actually it's probably going to get worse as 211 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 10: we go into the year because most Chinese university students 212 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 10: graduate in June and then they join the labor market. 213 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 10: When they join, they start looking for work or they 214 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 10: you know, and the ones that haven't been unifying work 215 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 10: at that point go become unemployed. So you know, this 216 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 10: may actually get a lot worse. Yes, yeah, the second 217 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 10: half of year, unless they economy picks up. There's little 218 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 10: to think that that's going to be a swift improvement 219 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 10: as numbers and you know, lots of young unemployed people 220 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 10: is not what any government wants to see, especially in China. 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 10: I think there's maybe twelve million university graduates joining the 222 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 10: workforce in during this year, which, wow, huge number of 223 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 10: people you need to find jobs for. 224 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mind boggling. Is there twelve million people graduating 225 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: in the summer? James, thank you so much for being 226 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: with us. Love to have you on the program? That 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg's Economic editor for Greater China, James Meger. Now 228 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: coming up next, CEO pay packages fall. Hugh pill says 229 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: sorry for inflammatory remarks and the rise and rise of 230 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: casual workwere. 231 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: Now the paper review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe, the 232 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: news you need to know from today's papers, and. 233 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio of Bloomberg's le Anne Garren's 234 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm not alone this morning. Thanks for coming in and 235 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: talk to us. The Wall Street Journal has the headline 236 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: CEO pay packages fell sharply in twenty twenty two, the 237 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: first decline in a decade. 238 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: Caroline will never let you walk alone on this show. 239 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: We will always come and join you at some point. Yes, 240 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: now let's get into this Wall Street Journal story, Caroline. 241 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: This really digs into the changes made to the way 242 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: CEO pay packages are now calculated over in the US. 243 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: So this is something that we're really going to hone 244 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: in on. Historically, companies have reported executive pay as it 245 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: was valued when they received the pay packet, But now 246 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: companies are really charting gains and losses in the stock 247 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: awards that make up much of the pay packages for 248 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: the CEOs. Now this is the first time this year 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: this is happening, and now we are seeing those new 250 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: figures come through. Hence why things have fallen sharply. So 251 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: numbers show that in twenty twenty two, about two thirds 252 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: of top executives at S and P five hundred companies 253 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: ended the year with smaller pay packages, and some one 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: hundred and forty CEOs actually earned more money than they 255 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: did expect. And this is all according to Wall Street 256 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: Journal analysis. They've been breaking down the numbers in light 257 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: of these changes to the way data is processed. Now 258 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: the latest disclosures show new measure of pay for the 259 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: three months in most recent years highlights how much CEO 260 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: pay can really fluctuate with market tides and other factors. 261 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: So this is the why we're seeing these SMP five 262 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: hundred top executives earn less money because things are being 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: calculated differently and obviously volatility in the markets making things 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: more difficult. 265 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think it's a really interesting move, isn't it. 266 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: It's trying to get more clarity actually what the value 267 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: of pay packages is and sort of trying to I guess, 268 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: mark to market the pay packets. But this is a 269 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: weird year in which to do it. Yes, absolut lastly 270 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: would have been as well, given that a lot of 271 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: stocks have done badly, you know, in terms of yeah, 272 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: the economics show done that we've seen. Let's see in 273 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: good years what those pay packets look like. Okay, let's 274 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: move on though and talk about the time. So the 275 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: back of England's Hugh Pill is sorry for inflammat trye remarks. 276 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: What were those inflammatory remarks. 277 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: O Hugh Pill? He said, Britain's need to accept they 278 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,479 Speaker 2: are poorer as a result of high inflation. But listen, Caroline, 279 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: sometimes it's difficult to say sorry and to own up 280 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: to your mistakes. But he's done just that. And I 281 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: wonder if it's because his remarks caused basically tidal waves, 282 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: so didn't it. People were pretty outraged by what he 283 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: had to say, accepting they were poorer because of high inflation. 284 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: His comments were even criticized by Andrew Bailey. Now that 285 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: was a rare move from the governor of the Central Bank. 286 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: But remember he told people not to accept bonuses. So 287 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if this just slightly rings out of touch. 288 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: But listen, he said that he is sorry, he was 289 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: should have used different language. And you know, like I said, 290 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: widely criticized across political spectrum. 291 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: He was, but saying saying sorry and that I should 292 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: have used better language is not denying, you know, the 293 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: economic point that he was trying to make, which is 294 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: that if we all push for higher wages, prices will 295 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: continue to go up and that makes the inflation picture worse. 296 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 11: But one of the. 297 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Strikes still going on was some you know sectors still 298 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: pushing for more pay. And that's basically yes. 299 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 11: The underlying tone. 300 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: There, Okay, headline in the Financial Time says work and 301 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: we can wardrobes? Do we need boundaries? 302 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: Do we? Absolutely not? And I don't know why. This 303 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: story is interesting but also annoyed me a little bit, Caroline. 304 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: We've completely moved on from having two different wardrobes. We 305 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: no longer need a walk work law. In my mind, 306 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: a work wardrobe's gone and a casual wardrobe's gone. It's 307 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: all just mixed in now. But listen, Emma Jacob's writing 308 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: for the Ft, such a great piece. 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