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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature, feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, we're talking about deep sea legs,

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Speaker 1: some of the weirdest appendages in the deep sea, from

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Speaker 1: the legs that do everything from walking to breathing to

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Speaker 1: three D printed worms. Discover this and more as we

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Speaker 1: answer the angel question, do those legs go all the

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Speaker 1: way up? Yes, yes they do. Joining me is friend

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Speaker 1: of the show, producer host of the podcast Rough Stuff

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Speaker 1: as well as shooting threes, Bridget Greenberg.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So good to have you back where I'm back from

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Speaker 1: summer summer break and we're going right directly into the

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Speaker 1: yourdest parts of the ocean, back into the sea from

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Speaker 1: whence we came back from whence we came into that

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Speaker 1: soup of life. Yeah, find out what we've been swimming

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Speaker 1: in all summer. Yeah, so it's it's definitely a weird one.

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Speaker 1: We start out with deep sea spiders, are you, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: have you ever seen these little critters? They're not I

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Speaker 1: would not say they're cute exactly.

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Speaker 3: I don't oh, God, Yeah, they look like aliens.

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Speaker 2: From Aliens, they do look.

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Speaker 1: Like face huggers. They got that nice sort of jointed

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Speaker 1: legs that seemed like they would attach well onto your face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't say I've seen these guys. I

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Speaker 3: I knew we were going to get some creepy guys

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Speaker 3: in this one. Well, it's that's That's kind of the point.

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Speaker 1: Deep sea it gets pretty weird. Most of the ocean

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Speaker 1: is weird, but like the deeper get usually weirder. You

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Speaker 1: get so. Sea spiders are not arachnids, so they're not

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Speaker 1: splant the same land spider. They're not spiders, but they

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Speaker 1: are related to spiders. They're related to spiders, scorpions, mites,

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Speaker 1: and actually horseshoe crabs as well. They're all members of

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Speaker 1: the subphylum Chilliserata, which you know.

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Speaker 2: I love that band.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cellis Serata, what a wonderful phrase. The strangest thing

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Speaker 1: about them is that they are all legs. They do

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Speaker 1: not really have a true abdomen. Oh, they just kind

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Speaker 1: of have a simple juncture point at which all the

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Speaker 1: legs connect. They they do typically have like a proboscis

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Speaker 1: maybe some chillisserra, those like little mouth parts. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: in terms of an actual like abdomen with room in

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Speaker 1: it for there to be organs, there's not a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are just legs. I yeah, I just saw

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Speaker 3: a picture of its center and it's just like all

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Speaker 3: the joints mashed together at some point.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much. It's it's it's it's very strange. And there's

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Speaker 1: a wide variety of the many, many mini species of

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Speaker 1: sea spiders. The smallest species are just a few millimeters

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Speaker 1: in diameter, whereas the largest, uh Colasendais colossalia, has a

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Speaker 1: leg span over two feet long. So you know, it

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Speaker 1: could could wrap around your head. It probably won't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it probably won't, but it could. So that's fun to

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Speaker 2: How Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like, well, how how how deep down are these guys?

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Speaker 1: I mean they're found it's still they're all yeah, probably not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they are generally interested in

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Speaker 1: human beings. They don't attack humans or any large animals there.

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Speaker 1: They are carnivored, but all their prey is soft bodied

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Speaker 1: sea animals like sea and enemies. They're actually not considered

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Speaker 1: predators because they rarely kill their victims. They generally stick

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Speaker 1: their proboscis in suck out some of the juices from

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Speaker 1: say like a cea an enemy and then move on.

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Speaker 1: And the cea an enemy rarely ever dies from the attacks,

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Speaker 1: so they're actually considered parasites more than they're considered predators.

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Speaker 2: But like friendly little guys, they're not trying to hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just need they need to get that bag

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Speaker 1: of an enemy soup.

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Speaker 2: Yum mmmm, that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: The so there's just like a whole somewhere where all

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Speaker 3: the business is done and the rest.

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Speaker 1: Is leg Yeah. So yeah, they have like a proboscis

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Speaker 1: that can suck stuff in, but where like the problem is,

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Speaker 1: they don't really have much of an abdomen. So where

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Speaker 2: Because you got where's the spider?

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Speaker 1: They gotta have organs? Well, uh, let's uh, let's talk

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Speaker 1: It turns out that basically their legs do everything. They

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Speaker 1: house their organs. They do a bunch of stuff in

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Speaker 1: addition to you know, walking. Uh, they are responsible for

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Speaker 1: all the other things that the spider, the sea spider

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Nati sea spider, which it's naughty

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Speaker 1: as in knotted like a like a Sailorman's.

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Speaker 2: Not naughty sea spider.

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Speaker 1: Naughty not naughty as in like not on Santa's list,

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Speaker 1: sea spider, the spiders, and bad These are Nazi sea

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Speaker 1: spiders as Yeah. They're also known as uh pic no

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Speaker 1: ganem literally so uh as the name suggests. Uh. It's

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Speaker 1: limbs look kind of like you took some sort of

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Speaker 1: kind of look like an alien spider made out of

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Speaker 1: white bindie straws. So uh. They are the tail tail

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Speaker 1: of a rat king, but it's just tail. That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's probably like they're they're kind of preboscous area. Actually

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Speaker 1: it might not be. That might be there, and I'm

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Speaker 1: get a little turned around with these guys.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: It's a little hard to tell, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mostly legs.

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Speaker 1: It's mostly legs. They're very confusing looking. But researchers at

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Speaker 1: the University of Wisconsin Madison, in conjunction with the University

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Speaker 1: of Vienna, looked into the naughty sea spider to explore

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Speaker 1: a question, why do see spiders keep all their organs

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Speaker 1: in their legs rather than in an abdomen. So the

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Speaker 1: researchers found that the sea spiders are missing a key

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Speaker 1: hawks gene. So hawks genes are a group of genes

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Speaker 1: that control body development, and so this missing gene is

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Speaker 1: one that would normally control abdominal growth. And they just

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Speaker 1: don't have it, don't need it. They simply don't do it,

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Speaker 1: For some reason, it seems that the gene controlling abdominal

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Speaker 1: and they ended up compensating by storing all their organs

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Speaker 1: in their legs. And they truly use their legs for everything.

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Speaker 1: They walk with them. They breathe through their legs.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why that got me.

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Speaker 1: Well, it gets worse. Females eject eggs out of their

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Speaker 1: legs ah, and males will fertilize the eggs and then

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Speaker 1: attach them to special baskets on his legs until they hatch.

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Speaker 2: Oh, which is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you got the men spiders have pockets.

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Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, exactly, I mean the man sea spiders do

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Speaker 2: And they're convenient pants pockets exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like cargo shorts, but eight legs of those and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you breathe an excrete out of them. So it's nice,

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Speaker 1: an elegant solution to not having Yeah. The funny thing

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Speaker 1: they don't really know why this happened. It just seemed

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Speaker 1: goofa mups and then the sea spiders just rolled with it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, actually, we don't really need this. Everything fits

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Speaker 1: all good in our legs and we're still we're still along,

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Speaker 1: it's still hugging along. Don't don't need all this abdominal stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's thought that they were they had a common ancestor

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Speaker 1: spiders at some point and then they're just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: I want to do something different, more unique.

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Speaker 2: Keep it all in the legs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need anything else just these legs and

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Speaker 3: this weird tongue stra.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, the proboscis. The uh. It's really interesting

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Speaker 1: because the hardest part of the study was apparently being

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Speaker 1: to raise them in captivity. They apparently do not like

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Speaker 1: it much. They're very strange and very finicky about their food.

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Speaker 1: But the University of Vienna painstakingly found the specific types

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Speaker 1: then they like make sure that they're allowing the individual

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Speaker 1: they like, and they're like, great, we're gonna house you

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Speaker 1: with these now so you can like eat them. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was apparently not easy, but the University of Vienna

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Speaker 3: Wow yeah yeakie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, when you don't have a stomach,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be picky about what you eat.

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Speaker 1: They do have, but yeah, it's it's in their legs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know why, Like I'm not uh, I'm

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Speaker 3: not a big spider person. I'm not freaked out by

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Speaker 3: spiders at all, but the idea of breathing through your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't like that. I could.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why that reaction,

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Speaker 1: It's different. It's different for people. I mean we sometimes

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Speaker 1: till it's like you gotta let your feet breathe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let your feet breathe. But yeah, it's very literal with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, that is. And they're weird.

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Speaker 3: They're very particular about their I kind of like that.

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Speaker 3: They're they're culinary expert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're piggy little guys.

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Speaker 1: I highly encourage you all listening to just look at

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Speaker 1: the various species of sea spiders because they're very strange looking.

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Speaker 1: They're very uncanny. You really do see, Like I think

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a roar shock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And it's there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of cool designs. If you're like a

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Speaker 1: sci fi artist or writer or whatever, oh for sure,

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Speaker 1: look up these guys. They're great inspiration. They look very Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they look very upsetting in a cool kind of deep

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and it looks like these like the Naughty spiders.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are joints, but look a little more

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Speaker 3: fluid than some of the big prickly face hugger looking guys.

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Speaker 3: They kind of looked like those. Yeah, they look like

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Speaker 3: those jelly like hands that you used to get that

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Speaker 3: used to slap on car windows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a little meteor like. They're a little softer looking,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, some of the spindly ones do kind of

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Speaker 1: look like they're made out of weird toothpicks. Apparently. There

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Speaker 1: was a movie that came out in twenty twenty called

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Speaker 1: h Abissel Spider, which is about a giant sea spider. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's designed seems to be more based on

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Speaker 1: think it would have been creepier if they had gone

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Speaker 1: like the bristles, uh just work as a bunch of

432
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: little legs that help them walk around on the seafloor.

433
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Some of them use them to swim. They're like pleagic swimmers,

434
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: so they'll swim in the ocean, open, open ocean for

435
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: some of them. Yeah, some of them are burrowing, so

436
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: it helps them burrow. It really just like depends on

437
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the species. They have a lot of different types of

438
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: of uh uses for these bristles.

439
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, that makes sense.

440
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: They have to be built back so specifically, and you

441
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: lose one. It's that because they're covered, you would think

442
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: they could lose a few without it needing to be

443
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: built back.

444
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, if it's too many, then you got a problem.

445
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: Some of them actually have venomous bristles, so like irritating

446
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: venomous bristles. So you don't they look really soft and fluffy,

447
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: but you.

448
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Do not don't touch them.

449
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to touch them.

450
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, that's often true with the with the bugs

451
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: and the words that look fluffy, don't.

452
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: The ones that look the fluffiest bugs are often gonna

453
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: give you the worst rash. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, the

454
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: real bummer. All Right, we're gonna take a quick break

455
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and then when we get back, we're gonna talk about

456
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite cryptids because it's real and uh yeah,

457
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: he's a he's a real cutie. All right, So we're

458
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, uh not the giant squid, because

459
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: I think everyone's pretty familiar with giant squids. They're real,

460
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: they're cool, they're huge, they're very elusive. This one is

461
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: even more elusive. It is the big Finn squid, so

462
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: it has incredibly long they're not technically legs, they're arms.

463
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: But you know who's a leg an arm? Come on,

464
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: who's counting? Yeah?

465
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: Not with these guys.

466
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so bridget I, I implore you to look up

467
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: image of the big Finn squid.

468
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one, and it's a clearly shot.

469
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: There's a couple of these that are shot in like

470
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: night vision, and they're very ominous.

471
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Very very creepy. There's a famous one which was shot

472
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: by one of these deep sea cameras and it looks

473
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: like a it looks like a movie alien. We're kind

474
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: of back to the real alien looking guys. Got kind

475
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: of a green tint to it due to the camera

476
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: filter and the squid's head. It's not really a head,

477
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: so it's called a mantle, but it kind of looks

478
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: like a weird alien head with weird little floppy ears,

479
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: and then it's got these like long appendages that they

480
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: start out where they kind of are they go out

481
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: at a right degree angle and then just drop down.

482
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it's very marionette.

483
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Right, Like, it kind of looks like a giant virus.

484
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: It's very weird looking. It does not look real.

485
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: No, it looks like a giant ants head. Yeah.

486
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really freaky looking. Yeah, it is a

487
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: real animal. So this is a big fin squid and

488
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: it has sort of a pretty normal squid mantle, although

489
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: the fins, so like squids have these fins on the

490
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: sides of their mantles, are are quite large, like they're

491
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: sort of, yeah, sort of the dumbos of the squid world.

492
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Everything about this guy seems quite large.

493
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like it's interesting because you would think that

494
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: they would call it the long arm squid because that

495
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: is perhaps the more notable features. So the reason they're

496
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: called big fin squid is that there for the longest time,

497
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: we had no obviously no video of them or images

498
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: of them because they are just so deep, such deep

499
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: sea creatures. They live around twenty thousand feet over twenty

500
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: thousand feet, that's great. So specimens are really really hard

501
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: to come by. So the ones that they did tend

502
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: to get that would wash ashore were actually juveniles, and

503
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: juveniles have sort of the big the big fins, but

504
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: they don't have the big legs yet. So old school

505
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: researchers and biologists would see these and say, like they

506
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: got a big fin. They had no idea that as

507
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: adults they have these enormous arms. So, yeah, the big

508
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: fin squid probably has the longest arm to body ratio

509
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: of any squid out there. They grow, these arms grow

510
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: to be over twenty five feet long, which is around

511
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: eight meters. Yeah, and that's.

512
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: They probably get caught in stuff all the time.

513
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: Just get all tangled. They're twenty times longer than the

514
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: mantle of this guid, which is an incredible sort of

515
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: body ratio.

516
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: So much legs, yeah, really really really.

517
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Going going all legs. The only reason we know this

518
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: is because of deep sea cameras. I don't think we

519
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: have really any complete specimens of an adult with all

520
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: the legs intact. And yeah, so like it's in addition

521
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: to just having really long legs. I think one of

522
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: the weirdest aspects to them is that they look like

523
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: they kind of have elbows, right, because they stick out

524
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: at a ninety degree angle and then drop down as

525
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: if they have like a joint there, which they almost

526
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: certainly do not have a joint there. It has something

527
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: more to do with the musculature of the arms, not

528
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: that they have like a bindy joint there most likely.

529
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's all still arms. So the babies were

530
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: probably just like up until the little the.

531
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Drop right exactly exactly, so so yeah, it's it's all

532
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: part of their arms. But yeah, it's a very it's

533
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: a very weird thing because we don't necessarily know why

534
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: they hold them out like this. I mean when possibility

535
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: is just so they don't get so tangled, right, like

536
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: keep them keep them separate so they.

537
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Don't get entangled. Yeah.

538
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you've ever played around with a marionette

539
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: and the strings get all tangled when you let the

540
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: strings get together and other it's arrangement with that little

541
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: crossbar type handle thinging. Yeah, yeah, poor guys always be

542
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: like we also we also don't know why they have

543
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: such long arms. Also, the like our sort of videos

544
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: and images of it are pretty limited. So all we've

545
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: seen of these guys is them just sort of flow

546
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: around pretty passively.

547
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

548
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: I can't imagine those at that length that's that helpful

549
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: for swimming.

550
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think that they are really probably

551
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: meant for swimming. The fin itself is probably the most

552
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: useful part for swimming. I do have what I'm going

553
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: to share with you a pretty incredible video of one

554
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: of these guys swimming around in the chat here.

555
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: I got to see how these guys move, and.

556
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: You'll be able to see that. This is from a distance,

557
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: so that's why it looks so small, but you can

558
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of see that it is using that giant fin

559
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: rather than its tentacles to swim.

560
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is not how I expected this thing to move.

561
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: That is right, very strange. Yeah, his head looks is

562
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: a lot flatter, I guess, or it looks I guess.

563
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: Those are just the fins.

564
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are those are mostly the fins. It's got

565
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: sort of like the solid the solid part of the

566
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: mantle and then the the fins doing a lot of

567
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: the work. Usually squids. Also, we'll be able to move

568
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: using jet propulsion. To buy squeezing water out, so it's

569
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: probably doing something like that as well. It's hard to

570
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: see though. We just don't. We don't have a lot

571
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: of data to go on with these guys.

572
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sure they figured it out. But this

573
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: looks like a horrible way to swim. It looks like

574
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: it's getting pushed around quite a bit.

575
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: I think it probably relies on currents a lot to

576
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: move around. Yeah, it would be my guess, but yeah,

577
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't really know how they feed. Like

578
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: one of the speculations about their long arms is that

579
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: they use it to like catch prey up and then

580
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: that's how they like the prey gets all tangled up. Yeah, exactly,

581
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: but truly, like it's just not really known exactly why

582
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: they're so weird.

583
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are all such good like sci fi alien

584
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: villain looking guys. Especially this this picture with the night

585
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: vision of it, like coming from the deep, looks very

586
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 3: like Star Trek alien villain.

587
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, bring me to your leader.

588
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: It's very strange. It's also a little funny because it

589
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: does look a little bit like you just kind of

590
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: like tied a bunch of spaghettis together and toss them

591
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: in the ocean.

592
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

593
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: So it's at the same time very very eerie looking

594
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: but also a little bit silly.

595
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's arms too big.

596
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's arms is too big. It should should work

597
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: on that.

598
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're so skinny too. It really feels like

599
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: it's all ahead and then it just gets like tangled.

600
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I it has to happen. It's all arms.

601
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess, I mean there's not a bunch

602
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: of I mean, I guess it depends down there. There's

603
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: not a bunch of stuff for it to get stuck on.

604
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like they also think the arms might be sticky,

605
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: so then, oh.

606
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: That would be a real inconvenience.

607
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: It'd be really tough. But maybe that's exactly what they

608
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: need to like get stuff in there. They figured it out, right, Yeah,

609
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: it's really figured it out. It's really it's really wild.

610
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: And also what's weird is that they're not it's not

611
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: just like some remote like little corner of the Mariana

612
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: Trench where these guys live. They're all over the globe

613
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: at these depths. Wow, so they must have it's they

614
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: must have a pretty good strategy for survival. So we

615
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: just We just can't fathom what that is because they're

616
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: so strange looking.

617
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: That is so weird. Yeah, that's why stuff that deep

618
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: is so fascinating. It is truly like a completely different world. Yeah,

619
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: that you have to learn that these creatures have to

620
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: survive in and that they're good at that.

621
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, they're found all over the world and they're thriving. Yeah,

622
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: looking like this, looking isn't it's inspirational for all of us.

623
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: Like you can, yeah, you can look like arms, you

624
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: can look like a bunch of spaghetti tied together with

625
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: a kite, and you can still make it in the

626
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: big deep ocean, and.

627
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: The big deep ocean twenty five thousand feet down right.

628
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's so far down.

629
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: It's very far down. Speaking of far down, I got

630
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: this listener question or not really a question, more of

631
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: a listener comment and recommendation, which I think is very

632
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: apropos for this episode. Here it is, Hi, Katie, I

633
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: have been obsessed with the near daily live streams from

634
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: Schmidt Ocean. They were previously exploring the deep over three

635
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: thousand meters at most off the Argentinian coast, took a break,

636
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: and now they're back exploring off the Uruguay coast. I

637
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: find myself oohing and I alongside the scientists with some

638
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: of the unexpected discoveries cute sponges and pulpos which is octopus,

639
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: and cheering when they success successfully collect a tricky sample.

640
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: They also make the most beautiful short videos. Please check

641
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: it out. This is from Jesse and Jesse. I did

642
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: indeed check this out. It is so relaxing. I can't understand.

643
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't speak Spanish, so I can't understand what they're saying,

644
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: but they have very soothing voices and they, uh, it

645
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: is this really interesting rig because it's a camera, but

646
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: they also have this robotic arm that moves very slowly

647
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: and well yeah, they'll they'll try to collect like samples

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Speaker 1: very gently, very slowly. But it's like it's this it's

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Speaker 1: like this big mechanical claw and it has a bunch

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Speaker 1: of tools at its disposal, like it has a little yeah,

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Speaker 1: well no, it's it's it's got like it's got like

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Speaker 1: little how do It's like got little bins that has

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Speaker 1: the things in it that it needs. So it'll like

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Speaker 1: reach over like pick up a little like shovel type

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Speaker 1: thing that has a bunch of holes in it like

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Speaker 1: a sieve and then pick that up to try to

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Speaker 1: grab a sample. Uh. And of course there's a lot

658
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Speaker 1: of like weird, weird stuff down there that this camera captures.

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Speaker 1: They have like if you don't have the patience for

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Speaker 1: a live stream where not a lot of could be happening,

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Speaker 1: or not much could be happening, like like Jesse said,

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Speaker 1: there's also yeah, short videos that are really really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you want, if you want something relaxing

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Speaker 1: on you're trying to trying to fall asleep and you

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Speaker 1: don't have philosophobia, it's a I think it's really really

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Speaker 1: nice and it's I think it's great that they make

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Speaker 1: this uh live stream available to everyone to watch because

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Speaker 1: you can you can see sort of the process. Takes

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Speaker 1: a lot of patience for these scientists because they're not

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Speaker 1: just doing it, you know when they feel like it.

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Speaker 1: They're just observing this for long periods of time.

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Speaker 2: This is your job.

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Speaker 3: I'm on one now. This is yeah, this is so

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Speaker 3: cool that they're streaming this. Yeah, it and it is

675
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: probably so exciting because it is mostly like long wormy

676
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Speaker 3: fish without arms, like stuff you'd expect to see. But

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Speaker 3: every now and again, just like one of these giant squids. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: squid crosses its path.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the I'm looking at the live

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Speaker 1: stream now. It is uh, it's it's pretty neat. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm looking. It looks like there's a lot of maybe

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Speaker 1: these are eels or hagfish. They might be hagfish. I

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Speaker 1: can't quite.

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Speaker 2: Quite tell. But yeah, these are armless fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're fish. They're very very cool. But there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them, because it really gives you a

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Speaker 1: better sense of like, yeah, there are parts of the

688
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Speaker 1: deep ocean that are not very well inhabited, but some

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Speaker 1: of it it's like you get down there, there's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff just thriving. Yeah, and you'll have these

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Speaker 1: big events. I don't know if they've ever caught anything

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Speaker 1: like this, but they'll have these Uh, there's one looking

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Speaker 1: at the camera right now. It's very cute. They'll have

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Speaker 1: these events where, like you know, you'll have a whale

695
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Speaker 1: dye and fall down to the bottom of the ocean

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Speaker 1: called whale fall, and you'll just have this like big

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Speaker 1: feast of a ton of these deep sea animals showing

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Speaker 1: up for this giant buffet, and it really shows you

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Speaker 1: It shows you how much a surprising amount of life

700
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Speaker 1: thrives where there's no light. You cannot there's no photosynthesis happening.

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Speaker 1: It's all chemo synthesis, so like chemicals being processed by

702
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Speaker 1: bacteria that then gets eaten by larger organisms that gets

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Speaker 1: eaten by animals. So like, you have this really interesting

704
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Speaker 1: food chain at the bottom of the ocean, and it's

705
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Speaker 1: all thanks usually to some kind of bacteria that can

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Speaker 1: eat something that's normally really toxic, like cyanobacteria that can

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Speaker 1: eat poison. And then you'll have you know, larger organisms

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Speaker 1: that can eat the bacteria, or even things that kind

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Speaker 1: of co evolved with the bacteria, like tube worms that

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Speaker 1: have back tia in them that they used to uh

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Speaker 1: get food from tube worms? Are these crazy? They look

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Speaker 1: like pipe organs, Yeah, and they're full of the those

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Speaker 1: are in.

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Speaker 2: The Marianna's Trench.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen, yes, yes, a video in

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Speaker 3: a science class about those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to try to find out what we're

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Speaker 1: looking at here because these are soad this is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, the the machine picked up what looks like

720
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Speaker 3: a piece of trash, but it has a bunch of

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Speaker 3: barnacles on it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. I'm gonna I'm gonna find out what this is. Uh?

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Speaker 2: Is it just like the dead skin sack of something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to look.

725
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm quickly trying to look at these could be cusk eels.

726
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh but that's yeah. This I'm I'm gonna get so distracted. Advice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, video this is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna become a twitch stream of us reacting

729
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: to this streame.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this is fantastic. Yeah, this thing is cool.

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Speaker 2: Gosh.

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Speaker 1: So it's so mesmerizing, it really is. It's it's peaceful,

733
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Speaker 1: but then once in a while something whoa, oh there's

734
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Speaker 1: a little scuffle going on. Something happens. Ah. Yeah, but

735
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Speaker 1: incredible if you kind of want to get a view

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Speaker 1: of life as it is down there live, which is

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00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's kind of cool because it's

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00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: like it's not it's just happening right now, man, right

739
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: deep in the ocean. You can see it. That's very cool.

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Speaker 2: It is very cool.

741
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Speaker 3: It is cool how busy it is, because yeah, I

742
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: truly think of like yet the deep ocean as all

743
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: of these kind of small creatures that you wouldn't even

744
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: register as.

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00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: Right, like like pale, pale, white little things with too

746
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: many legs, which certainly is true. We've talked about we see,

747
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: we've seen already. Yeah, and that is true. But there's

748
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: all so actual fish down here. So yeah, it's busy, yeah,

749
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: busy day down on the ocean. Yeah, yeah, there's it's

750
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Speaker 1: a bumper to bumper traffic down here.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: You thought you could avoid rush hour from the scottom

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Speaker 1: the bottom off the coast of Uruguay, No, no surre.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, fantastic. Well, thank you so much for that recommendation, Jesse,

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: much appreciated. I've got a new, a new thing to

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Speaker 1: help me procrastinate with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be on in the background. This

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Speaker 2: is now is set to exactly.

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Speaker 1: Uh So before we go, we do got to play

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Speaker 1: a little game. It's called gets Who's Squawking? The Mystery

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Speaker 1: Animal sound Game. Uh So we're we're back, uh and

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Speaker 1: I got fresh fresh sounds fresh from the sound bakery.

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Speaker 3: For you guys.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna start this game right back up. This

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Speaker 1: week's mystery animal sound hint is this This poisonous animal

766
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Speaker 1: is a fantastic survivor which is bad news for anything

767
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Speaker 1: caught in its path. So that should strike that should

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Speaker 1: strike terror into your heart. Bridge. Yeah, especially if you're

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Speaker 1: a small mammal. Uh So, yes, you gotta get that again.

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Speaker 1: This poisonous animal is a fantastic survivor, which is bad

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Speaker 1: news for anything in its path.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, And with that sound, that's difficult. I gotta

773
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's some sort of snake.

774
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: Some sort of snakes, some some some some kind of

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Speaker 1: snaky thingy, some sort of snaky thing, some kind of

776
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Speaker 1: snaky thingy. That is Bridget's guess. It's a good guess.

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Speaker 1: I can neither confirm nor deny.

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Speaker 2: This guess.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh. So you out there, you out there listener,

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Speaker 1: If you think you know who made that sound, you

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Speaker 1: can write to me at Creature Feature product gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can also write to me your live stream video recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Do keep them animal related, but yeah, I I love

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Speaker 1: to see them. Also, I will often do listener questions episodes.

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Speaker 1: So the questions that you send me are some of

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Speaker 1: the most intelligent questions I have ever considered. So those

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Speaker 1: interesting rese journeys answering questions that I didn't even think of,

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Speaker 1: so I always appreciate those. I'll still do us some

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Speaker 1: more listener questions episodes now that we are back to

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Speaker 1: doing fresh, new full length episodes after this summer. So

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening. Bridget Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram atport two tweets, and

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Speaker 3: you can follow all the stuff Sarah and I are

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Speaker 3: doing in the podcast world over at small Beads and

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Speaker 3: on our instagram bs Underscore podcasting.

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Speaker 1: And where We're in the ocean benthic pleagic. Where are

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Speaker 1: you at?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, probably probably somewhere in the tweet just like

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Speaker 3: right floating around, right in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's no shame in that. Please please do

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Speaker 1: it's not good for you. Just just ear drops, Just

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