1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast is on Coughlin Time. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up boys, Hey Dan? Wow? A little 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: bit of a delay we talked about before the show. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: It's a beat. He took several beats there before throwing 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: it out there. I'm a little off, my Mark. I'll 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: be all right, Well, what's wrong? Nothing, nothing, I'm good. Listen. 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: He's the mailman. He always delivers. I'm very excited today because, 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you know, working for the Around the League crew is 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: very exciting and it's really fulfilling work and it's a 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: great job that a lot of people would kill for. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: But one thing we don't typically get is real lunch breaks. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, Greg keeps us work and he's the boss. 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: He says, get your food, get back here. Not not 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to say that today a metaphorical whip. Yeah, not today. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: Today sandwiches were ordered by the Boss. And we're going 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: to have a sit down and we're gonna get Patra 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: on the phone from Chicago, Kevin Patrick coming at you, 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk some a t L initiative business. 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna well this is you know a 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: result of the go get My Lunch sandwich games. We're 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna go go get your lunch. That last part was 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be implied. Um. And uh, we're also going 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: to talk about an upcoming series, making the Leap, which 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: was a big hit last year, and we'll certainly be 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: talking about it on the podcast. So we're gonna decide 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: which players will be making the lead people are talking 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: about in that's our job. That's pretty good. No, that's good. 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: I I love this job. And I will say we 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: all took the order as we put them in and uh, 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: what West? What did you get as a sandwich? I 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: got the classic Italian sub that's a solid one. I 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: was gonna get the Chipotle chicken, we couldn't find it 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: on the menu, so I went with the Jamaican jerk sandwich. 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: And what did you got? Greg? The barbecue beef brisket. 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I had that delicious. Um. Mark Cessler, noted vegetarian of 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: the group. I wanted to have Greg forward the sandwich 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: that Mark ordered. So I'm gonna go down the list 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: because it's an abomination. It's called custom veggie sandwich. These 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: are marks choices, sour dough, no cheese, romane, lettuce, tomato, cucumbers, avocado, 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: green olives, pickles, hallepeenos, salt, pepper, and dijon. Oh my goodness, 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: look at that thing. What is the issue? Also in 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: the email that Mark sent to me, which I should 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: have just forwarded, it had three stars in all caps, 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: no meat, no cheese, as if as if you don't 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: know that Mark doesn't eat meat, if the words custom 49 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: veggie sandwich doesn't imply, I know that our friend Tristan 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: in Australia will agree with me that if you don't 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: clarify these things, the baker whoever that putting this thing together, 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: and some sandwich shop just throws everything on there, you'd 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: have to be specific. I'm not sandwich get being vegetarian, 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: but the vegetarian, but you don't like cheese or tofu thing. 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I also and I also get when Mark says he 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: doesn't he's not into the high octane sandwich business. He 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: sees it so overrated. I see that because this is 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: hard work to come up with something that you find delectable. 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: How about this? You continue to mow down life forms 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: in order to eat your lunch. And I won't, but 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I'll take the heat if three of you if every 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: time I have to order a sandwich too, is like 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: writing a small short story or something. I mean that 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: that's an assignment to come up with all of that Romain, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, avocados, 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: green olives, pickles, hal opinions all had life coursing through 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: their veins before somebody plucked them off the vine. I 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: think you know what I'm saying. Alright, So anyway, Mark 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: is gonna enjoy sandwichar we all, we're gonna do our stuff. 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Started to call you out on that, Mark, but already 70 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: had to scurry off to his lunch and he's gonna 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: be empty handed during this meeting. Well he doesn't live here, 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: so what what can we do? Style beef? Patrick's eating meat. 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: That man's been a fist fights as we know. He's 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: in the streets. All right, So big show today, guys, 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: We are going to get into the O t A. S. 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Was gonna start digging in. They've they've really kicked off 77 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: in earnest this week. There there have been uh Tuesday 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: and Wednesday we did Mark and West both handled a 79 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of an overview of the day, and we're gonna 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of pick through those two things. We need I 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: don't know, we needs some type of catchy title for it. 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: Whispers it doesn't sound bad. Um. Also, we're gonna get 83 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: into a little talk about a little chatter about the 84 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: top one NFL Network's top one hundred and thoughts upon 85 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: the latest uh reveal, which was what Greg and uh 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: So we'll hit that. But before we do any of that, 87 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: as we always do, there's the great man behind the glasses. 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: The clock is ticking on the gold standard being a 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: part of the Around League podcast, But we're saving every 90 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: moment the gold standards, that golden sir, what's not too much? 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: How you doing? How are you? I'm great? Any anything 92 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: you need to share right now? Not too much? Still 93 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: bummed about Landed Ottovan obviously, Well let's move on alight. 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, Well, a quick bit of household activity that 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: we gotta take care of us. We are running low. 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Did you mean housekeeping their housekeeping household? I like to 97 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: believe that Mark. You have to unload the dishwasher less, 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you need to make the beds, Greg, vacuum iron. Yeah, Anyways, Uh, 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: we are running low in money tags tags. Um, so 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: if we could have our Steam listeners submit their pitheist 101 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: funniest like intros would be splendid. And to explain that 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: the money intro money tags hashtag money tags are the 103 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: start of the show. Well, the Around the League podcast, Charlie, 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: you see, so something like that but funnier basically correct. 105 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Bring your a game and be a part of the 106 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: Around the League podcast listeners as you always are. We 107 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: love to be in contact with you. Now we take 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: off doing some work and try to put it upon 109 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: the people that listens. Part I mean, it's a two do. 110 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Takeing off our list I know, we really like. It's 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: not like we're contributing half and half. Now we've just 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: relying on this completely. We need to start figuring ways 113 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: how to transfer this to other elements of our job. 114 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, and stops. Hey, let's do some news. Alright. 115 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: The big news that happened after our show on Tuesday, 116 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys middle line packer Shawn Lee out for the year, 117 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: most likely with a torn a c L suffered during 118 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the first day of O t A s with Cowboys. 119 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Obviously devastating news for the defensive lynchpin of that team. 120 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport reported Wednesday on NFL Total 121 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Access that the Cowboys at this point anyway, don't plan 122 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: on bringing an outside veterans to compete for Lee's middle 123 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: linebacker spot. Uh. And I'll give you the three names 124 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: that are jumping out right now in Big d as 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: people to play for in Shan Lee spot. Davante Holloman, 126 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens justin Durant. Do any of those names light 127 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: up your Christmas tree, gentlemen. Durant already a starter on 128 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the strong side, so they would conceivably be meeting him 129 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: into the middle and then maybe moving Davante Holloman to 130 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the strong side. Holloman was a training camp darling last year, 131 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: late round draft pick, played really well. Cowboys fans love 132 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: him and insist that, you know, if they play that guy, 133 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: they'll be just fine. Yeah, But the Boys coaches don't 134 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: love Bruce Carter, who is also now going to be 135 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: locked into a starting lad And this is a defense 136 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: that was among if not the worst in the entire 137 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: league last year, and now you're losing your best player. No, 138 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I I'm not saying I believe Holloman is the answer. 139 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: But yes, you do. I can tell you that when 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I saw a Cowboys defense without Shawn Lee, DeMarcus where 141 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: in Jason Hatcher last year, the New Orleans Saints wracked 142 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: up NFL record forty first down. It puts so much 143 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: pressure on Tony Romo in the offense too, because well 144 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: what else is new? But they're gonna have to win 145 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: these games forty eight to forty six next season. And 146 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: I you know, look at Dallas. That's a team that 147 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Dan you set it downstairs. Despite their up and sound, 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: they had a lot of hope going into most seasons 149 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of hype. This looks like a four 150 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: win team to me. Front Seven's awful on this team. 151 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: There's there's a listener who tweeted at US a month 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: or two ago that he wanted to get involved in 153 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: the Go Get My Lunch proceedings by saying the cow 154 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys will not win more than three games. He said 155 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: that I would I would take that, and part of 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: it was that he believes Tony Romo will be hurt again. 157 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: But this defense is a three win defense. They have 158 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: George Selvey probably starting again. They have Nick Hayden or 159 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: you know who know Tyrone Crawford if he gets healthy. 160 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Spencer is a total mystery coming off an injury. 161 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: And then there's Henry Melton. They're big free agent signing 162 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: whose knee doesn't look good. Every single player in the 163 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: league right now is ahead of schedule except for Henry Melton, 164 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: who's behind schedule. He's the only one that that that 165 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: schedule is really for. And they had massive need at safety, 166 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: and Clayborne at cornerback is a total enigma. There's issues 167 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: on every layer of this defense. And I thinks what 168 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: you're saying, if Tony Romo got hurt, all bets are off, 169 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: and I think I could get behind Mark af a 170 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: win team. But to me, if I if I needed, 171 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: if I needed to make a guess now my life 172 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: was on the line, I'd say this is I don't know, 173 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: six or seven win team. And if you could say 174 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: one thing for the Cowboys is that how many years, 175 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: like Mark alluded to, have there been expectations with the team, 176 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: this will be the first time and some time that 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: there will be no expectations for the Cowboys, and maybe 178 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: they'll be able to ride that to some semblance of momentum. 179 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: Or some type of motivation. Nobody believed in it. It's 180 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: a good thing. They've been locked into what six or 181 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: seven nationally televised games. Again, Brandon, we didn't running this outfit. 182 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: They're going to be in the hunt for the number 183 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: one pick, and they gave Lee a lot of money 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: before last year, and I remember I wrote up a 185 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: post on it when it happened. I thought it was 186 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: a great contract. It was worth the risk it to 187 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: move you have to make. But now here's a guy 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: that already missed sixteen games or fifteen games combined over 189 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: the last two years to a variety of injuries, and 190 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: now he's gonna miss probably the whole season. It's kind 191 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: of been a disaster signing for them. So here's one 192 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: moving forward With other cabal news, one player that can 193 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: almost single handedly help keep the team afloat is Dez Bryant. 194 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: He was asked this week if he believed he should 195 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: be one of the highest paid receivers in the game. 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: This is des Briant coming off the past two seasons 197 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: where he has twenty five touchdowns. His response, yeah, I 198 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: deserve it. I deserve it. I feel like I do. 199 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: I put the work in but I let that kind 200 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: of stuff take care of itself. It is, it is 201 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: what it is. I let my agent talk about it 202 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: and give me some feedback. And Dez Bryant, who's working 203 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: under his rookie deal, is scheduled to make one point 204 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: seven eight million and a two fifty k workout bonus, 205 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: arguably uh, the best deal in the NFL, or one 206 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: of the best. It would be funy to see how 207 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: much of his new contract goes uh it gets taken 208 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: out of Jerry Jones babysitter fee Well, the guy that's 209 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: that used to be. Are they still traveling around with 210 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant the Cowboys employee? They still? I think there's 211 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: still some of that going on. I wonder what is 212 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: curfew is now. I I really took from what Ian 213 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: reported on Wednesday night. It was where he added some 214 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: context about the Cowboys are not ruling out giving him 215 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: a new contract before this one is up, but they 216 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: want to make sure his progress continues. And I don't 217 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: think that's talking about on field progress. They basically want 218 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's let's see how you're acting for 219 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the next three or four months off the field, and 220 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: if you have the right attitude and maybe then we'll pull. 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: And that's consistent with what Jones said at the NFL 222 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: annual meetings in March, and there was an enigmatic quote 223 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: from Jones about where they stood with with Dez Bryant 224 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: contract wise. It made no sense at all in terms 225 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: of whether they were actively looking under an extent or not. 226 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Garrett he Garrett hinted that they were, But I think 227 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you're right, it's in this holding pattern of sorts. He's 228 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: come a long way from two years ago when every 229 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys beat writer flat out guaranteed Dez Bryant would not 230 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: get a second contract from the Cowboys. He's the great 231 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: candidate for a franchise tag too, because you'd happily pay 232 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: him that one year contract if you need to, because 233 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: he's obviously worth it. He's more than worth it. But 234 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: there's other guys like AJ Green, Julio Jones, They're all 235 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna be up for contracts too, and they can kind 236 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: of wait around for them. I also want to internally, 237 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: especially for Cowboys team that is uh dealing with back 238 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: issues regarding their quarterback. If Doz is back, which has 239 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: given him problem two years in a row, if that's 240 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: something maybe that's on their radar. Two, if he if 241 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: he has the body to hold up, he's only he's 242 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: only twenty five, doesn't turn twenty till November. But this 243 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: is a guy that left um the season finale in 244 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve and a wheelchair, and then he dealt 245 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: with that back if issue all through last season, you know, 246 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: and he was a great player. Let's play a quick, 247 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: impro improvised game. Here does Bryant A J. Green, Julio Jones, 248 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: de Marius Thomas all entering contract of years? Right? Sure? 249 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: Which one gets the highest contract? They're all pretty equal 250 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: as receivers, wouldn't you say? I would not put Thomas 251 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: quite at that level if they're all healthy, and even 252 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Dez I might put a little bit low because the injuries. 253 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to Julio Jones. I would agree 254 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: with Julio Jones. He's probably the most consistent of those players. 255 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: Say A. J. Green is the most consistent? Yeah, but 256 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: that's the Bengals how much? Probably the two injuries now, 257 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: the combine foot injury and last year's I changed my 258 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: answer to A. J. Green. If the Bengals pay him 259 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: what he's worth, which they're so stingy. Though I love 260 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, but I think it's a j Green that 261 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: who gets the most money here and I will I 262 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: think des is the most talented of any of those guys. 263 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I think Julio. So we're betting against Jerry Jones paying 264 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: top dollar to an in house talent. It is crazy 265 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned he might be the most talented wide receiver 266 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: of those guys. And in football. For all the trash 267 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: we just talked about the Cowboys, that offense is very 268 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean they have one of the most talented wide receivers, 269 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: they have a very good quarterback, they have one of 270 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: the most talented left tackles in the league. They have 271 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: a very good running back in de Barco. I mean, 272 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: it's a great offense. Shoulder there are back spasm away 273 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: from Brandon Weeden. Alright, moving forward. One of our favorite 274 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: players in the Around the League podcast history, New Orleans 275 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Saints safety Gyrus Girouse Jaris Bird Jirous Bird Jirouse bired 276 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: underwent back surgery on Thursday. Saints coach Sean Payton announced 277 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: to reporters, uh it's an issue with a disk issue 278 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: that Peyton downplayed, said it wasn't necessarily It wasn't a 279 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: necessary surgery and one that wouldn't have been uh done 280 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: if if the issue cropped up during the regular season, 281 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: but it was something that will help him down the line. 282 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a serious issue, but a back back surgeries, 283 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: back surgery and not great news for a Saint's team 284 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: that just invested more than twenty six million and guaranteed 285 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: money to Mr girouse Bird. I wish Sean Payton wasn't 286 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: a liar. I wish you weren't a liar. Why do 287 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: you say that? No, you can't downplay any back surgery. Right, 288 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Would you have had this back surgery 289 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: in February? Of course not, because it would have dramatically 290 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: changed his market value. So it has to be somewhat 291 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: serious where the Saints aware of the surgery or the 292 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: issue before they signed him. I wonder if that that 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: was a situation question. I wonder would we be talking 294 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: about this if you didn't love saying Jared's Bird's name 295 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: so used excuse to bring back one of our favorite 296 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: parts of during the gold Standard era. Yes, exactly, back 297 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: surgery is going to get jirouse Bird or Jara's bird 298 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: mentioned every time, but it doesn't the threshold isn't even 299 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: that high. Basically, anything he does, he'll find his lance 300 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast at this point. Um moving forward. Doug 301 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Baldwin and the Seattle Seahawks. Baldwin have struck a deal 302 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: in a two year extent in uh NFL. Media insider 303 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported Thursday. The deal is worth four point 304 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: three million a year for a total thirteen million, with 305 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: almost eleven million and new money. The Seahawks are targeting 306 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: this week to have the deal formally done. But this 307 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: seems like a fair deal for pretty good receiver, right. 308 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you I would rather have Doug Baldman 309 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: on my team than Brian Hartline. And he's making a 310 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: lot less than the heartline. He's he's below the heartline 311 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: to take heartline, and not just because Greg, what is 312 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: what is the issue that you have with with Seattle 313 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: receivers in general? In the last couple of days, Baldwin's 314 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: name is bubbled up as a potential post on our website, 315 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: and every time it does, Greg just says, nah, not 316 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: worth it. And even with this head to get this 317 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: head to get floated in under the bottom of your 318 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks wide receiver or guy's named Doug Baldwin is a 319 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: good third or fourth receiver. We didn't need to be 320 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: doing posts on that. He might possibly sign a contract 321 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: that they're working on the deal. Let's just wait till 322 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: that contract signed. Then we can talk about put on 323 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: my boss pants here and let's sign some homework to Greg. 324 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Watch some Doug Baldwin film. All right, And by the way, 325 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: Pete Carrol this weekend plans for Greg. Doug has been 326 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: a tremendous player, Pete Carroll said. Why would Pete Carroll lie? 327 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: He says he's tremendous. He is a good player, he's 328 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: a He's the type of guy your fan base is 329 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: gonna love if he's on the open market. Look at 330 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: his contract. That says it all West. It's a good 331 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: deal for the it's a good deal for him too. 332 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: But he's getting paid appropriately and Brian hart Line is 333 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: way overpaid. That might be the one thing about Baldwin. 334 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Now there's is there long term? Richardson is a second 335 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: round pick. Percy Harvin, this is this used to be 336 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: a big weakness for the team. I don't know if 337 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: the receiver group is a weakness anymore, was making Jordy 338 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: Nelson money. Come on, guys, alright, moving on, We have 339 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: another NFL owner that has passed away. Malcolm Glazer, who 340 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: purchased the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in and hoisted the team's 341 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: first Super Bowl trophy eight years later, died Wednesday morning 342 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: at the age of eighty five. Glazer served as a 343 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: guiding force in the Bucks's rise and as a respected 344 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: NFL power following decades of struggles. UH. In Glazer's time 345 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: as owner, the team earned seven playoff bursts, five playoff wins, 346 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: and the team's loan Super Bowl title in the two 347 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: thousand two season. People forget how awful the Bucks were 348 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: for so many years. They were like the team that 349 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: you can make fun of. And uh, you know, Glazer 350 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: didn't do it alone. His family and his sons and 351 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: daughter played a major role in uh turning the franchise around. 352 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: But you know, Glazer played a big part in the 353 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Bucks rise. I'm glad you mentioned how awful they were. 354 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: When Hugh Culverhouse died in he was the former owner 355 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: and really big wig in the inside NFL circles. He 356 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: was a big time lawyer who really helped all got 357 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: involved in the Al Davis lawsuit when he when he died. 358 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Glazers competition for the Bucks franchise, Peter Angelos, the Baltimore 359 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Orioles owner who basically ran that franchise into the ground, 360 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner, a Tampa Bay resident, and a man named 361 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Socrates Babbacas is awesome, should own everything. And people forget 362 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: that the Bucks flirted with Bill. Does anybody realize that 363 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: West just rolled all that information out without looking at 364 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: a piece of paper, And then Socrates, is that real? 365 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: Is any of that real? What you just said? And 366 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Glazer when he paid when he bought the franchise, it 367 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: was the highest feet in the history of professional sports 368 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: franchise millions. Okay, Mark, well no, but they had flirted 369 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: with Bill pars Sells multiple times, and it was Glazer 370 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: that finally said, you know what, I can't go get 371 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: someone who I want to coach just to come here 372 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: on their own volition. I'm gonna swing one of the 373 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: biggest trades of all time to go get John Gruden. 374 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: I think those trades aren't allowed anymore because of that deal. 375 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Wasn't that he's what he's what you want? In a 376 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of ways in an owner that you know, when 377 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: he passed away, It's not a name that a lot 378 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: of NFL fans are even we are that familiar with 379 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: his son, Joel mostly runs a team. They're pretty hands 380 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: off just for the big moves. You know. They hired 381 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, they hired John Gruden. He's a guy that 382 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: is probably are almost definitely more well known overseas because 383 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: they own Manchester United than he ever was in the US. 384 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: The gold Standard knows this. In two thousand five, Glazer 385 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: purchased the Manchester United soccer team. The team won five 386 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Premier League titles two thousand seven, eight, nine, eleven, and thirteen, 387 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: as well as the two eight U e f A 388 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Champions League. Hobba hoba thoughts, you can just say Champions League. 389 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I mean it was obviously him 390 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: buying Manchester United was quite an acrimonious acquisition. He you know, 391 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: settled them with a certain amount of debt. Dome Americans, 392 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: you do it again to us, there you go, and 393 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so it was kind of sad to see 394 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: it not him not greeted, you know, so fondly. Um 395 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: because yeah, all of Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans obviously view 396 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: them with where did the debt come from? From acquiring 397 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: star talent or just from manager was to purchase the team? 398 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: It's gold standards. It's safe to say that if Dan 399 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: was a soccer fan, he would be a Man You fan. 400 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: That's very Yeah. With the Yankees, they're actually twinned with 401 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: Manchester City now Manchester United Rivals. It's safe to say 402 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Fabiana would be. But I know that Oasis or man 403 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: City guys, and my allegiance to know Liam runs deep, 404 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say I'm a man City guy right 405 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: to the radar. All right, gentlemen, let's move forward. Top one. 406 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: What's his favorite aspect of being an NFL fan? Is 407 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: the Top one d countdown countdown every year? Is that correct? 408 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: That's erroneous? Okay? Um, Greg Rosenthal, they counted down six 409 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: to seventy on the list. Greg the Boss wrote up 410 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: six tech takeaways from the latest edition of the Top 411 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: one hundred, and we'll throw it to Greg Rosenthal and 412 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: see what he has to say. What kind of jumped 413 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: out at you? Well, Nick Foles jumped out. He's number 414 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: seventy on the list. He's ahead of Romo. He's ahead 415 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: of Colin Kaepernick, he's ahead of Matthew Stafford. I would 416 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: take all three of those quarterbacks over Nick Foles. And 417 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: he's a guy who made the Pro Bowl. People were 418 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: talking about him as a potential m v P can 419 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: And my thing is just let's slow down a little 420 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: on Nick Foles. We don't know what he is yet. 421 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: He started ten games, He's shown some good things, but 422 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: he wasn't the reason they won the division. They won 423 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: the division because of the system and because of the 424 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: offensive line and everything around, and Falls was a nice 425 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: part of that. But he's not He's not that good. 426 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: He's not at that level yet. I think in the NFL, 427 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: you start out and Falls isn't is high really highly 428 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: regarded at this stage of his career around the league 429 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: as Jay Cutler was at the similar stage. I think 430 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, what matters when you judge quarterbacks, whether 431 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: rightly or wrongly, what do you do when the games 432 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: on the line. And like you said, Fools really hasn't 433 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: had a chance to do that yet. They haven't needed 434 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: him when the game's on the line. So let's let's 435 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: hold off on anointing him. They could have used them 436 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: a little more in the second half of that loss 437 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: to the Eagles in the plastic he wasn't terrible. Sorry, 438 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: they did beat themselves on some level. Yeah, and he 439 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible either. It was a typical Nick Foles game 440 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: where he's part of a larger machine. That's all I'm saying. Well, 441 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: but this, by the way, is not a career retrospective. 442 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: It's meant to be where they are coming off right 443 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: last season, right or or even I think it's supposed 444 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: to be for this upcoming seat. Either way, I wouldn't 445 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: put him in that category. I would not say, can I. 446 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: I'll ask you, gentlemen, the question. There three quarterbacks that 447 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: are behind falls on this list, Tony Romo, Colin Kaepernick, 448 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford. If I were to hire you as 449 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: a head coach for a team, is let's say Kaepernick adis? 450 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys would take Kaepernick above those 451 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: other three guys? Question? Okay, who Kaepernick doesn't belong in 452 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: that group? I agree? Who would be? Who would be 453 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: the fourth of these guys? I'll put it that way. 454 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Who would be the last guy you'd want if I 455 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: gave you these as four options? By Far folls by Far. 456 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: I agree with Greg and because falls for me. It's 457 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: these in this, it's the system he is in. I 458 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: don't trust that if you put him into any system, 459 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: he thrives. I feel that Tony Romo Stafford Romo about 460 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: starting a team today, Well, I would never take a 461 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: thirty four year old quarterbacks. So I would laid it out, 462 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: I said, I just hired you as coach. Then Stafford, hmm, interested, 463 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I would take Rome. I will be because well, I mean, 464 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: I don't believe your as the top on a different 465 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: games to spin off off. If we're sting after the first, 466 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: they have a discussion show after the actual show with 467 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Damna check and Silver And then if you're listening to 468 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: NFL network executives, maybe at one in the morning, throw 469 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: on hand Juice, Wes Sessler, the Around the League crew 470 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: and we do this whole other thing. And while that 471 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: the first after show is going on, we will be 472 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: at a local watering hole just talking about ideas for 473 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: the show. And then by the time we roll at 474 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: one am, we're flying. What did I do? Let's get 475 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: this started? Social media movement instant entertaining after after show 476 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: twenty work day anything else jump out at you at 477 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: the top one, Mr Rosenthal, No, dared Allan got a 478 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: little overrated. I didn't nothing else. Really, Cameron Wade is 479 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: an underrated player. I like that you mentioned that because 480 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: he is vastly underrated. Yeah, he should have been higher, 481 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: but that doesn't happened year after year with him. He's 482 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: not a name player, and he came from the Canadian 483 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: Football League. I think Canada he probably doesn't have as 484 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: much respect from other players. There's a general anti Canadian 485 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: sentiment in the NFL. If he was a number three 486 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, don't you think he would 487 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: be more highly rated or on a team anyone cared about. 488 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't feel that Jeff Ireland's fault that can Wake 489 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: isn't getting his own pub I don't feel like the 490 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Around League podcast is a huge Canadian following. Do we 491 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: get a lot of heat from Canada? I have. I've 492 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: looked at the numbers. We have an incredible international audience. 493 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: It's almost hard to believe. Thank you all for listening. 494 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: A huge segment of our listenership is from overseas, and 495 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: Canada is a huge part of that. They are our 496 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: number two country behind Uh, really you have it broken 497 00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: down that far? YEA Canada, Canada, Germany, Australia. I certainly 498 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: can you forward these numbers to us? This is your job. 499 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I can let you know to the to the listener 500 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: how many we've got. It's exciting. I for a brief 501 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: time in my life dated a woman named Kirby that 502 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: lived in Toronto. Little part of that k r y 503 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: that sounds to me like it did not end well. 504 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: It did not, actually, but I don't like Canada. It's 505 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: like when you're away camp and you're like, oh, yeah, 506 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend. She lived in Canada. A lot 507 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: of hoops to jumps. I've tried that ruse before. It's 508 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: too absurd to make up in this case, but that's 509 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: a memoir Ties coming out in two thousand sixty four. 510 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: To make up. All you did was take an eight 511 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: center fielder's first name and throw a Canadian city out there. 512 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: You did it. You cracked it all right. So moving forward, 513 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: good top one hundred talk Greg Way to lead it 514 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: great West. You really enjoyed it. I can talk. Yes, Um, 515 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: let's dig in to the O t A s breaking 516 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: down some nuggets taken from both Uh, the around the 517 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: League NFL dot com back slash a t L. You 518 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: get all the news that we write about that really 519 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: formulates the bedrock of the Around the League podcast. We 520 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: had what we learned from Wednesday's O t s and Tuesdays. 521 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: So I figure I'll go around the room once, perhaps 522 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: even twice if time permits, and talk about things that 523 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: have jumped out to us. So why don't we start 524 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: mark you were uh you wrote up the Wednesday round 525 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: up something that jumped out to you on Wednesday? Well, 526 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: I think for me at the minute I hit work 527 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: at around eight am, Greg basically said, we've got Johnny 528 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Manzel tied up in Cleveland, like you gotta jump right 529 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: on this, and a It started with Petton basically responding 530 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: to whatever it was people were perceiving happened in Vegas 531 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to Johnny Manzel over the weekend. My takeaway was number one, 532 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: they don't care what he does off the field as 533 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: long as he basically doesn't get arrested. He already was 534 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: moved into second team snaps ahead of number three. None 535 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: of it means anything in me, but you know, with 536 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Hoyer not cleared really for for full on eleven on 537 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: on eleven contact. He took number one and in the 538 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: takeaway from me had nothing to do with this loss 539 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Vegas business. It was a couple of the writers on 540 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: the scene who watched every snap said, this offense by 541 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is being engineered entirely for a mobile quarterback. 542 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot being borrowed from what he did with 543 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: r G three, and it's not being engineered for someone 544 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: other than Manzelle. This is his job to lose, so 545 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: it's not being engineered for a immobile quarterback with a 546 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: giant knee brais I think coming off surgery, you're saying 547 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: with a giant knee braks, he will be and m 548 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: O Book Well, I know in your mind we're dealing 549 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: with two thousand and third team Brian Hoyer, but that 550 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: guy's is not walking through the door. We're dealing with 551 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: the A C L. Brian Hoyer. Well, yes, correct, West. 552 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: The point is it's not being engineered for Brian Hoyer. 553 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, but it shows because we all 554 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: it's not the point. I just think that Cleveland, no 555 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: matter what they've said, they took this guy to play. 556 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Listen to the optimism in your voice when you talk 557 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: about this team. I got excited Mark it would be 558 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: wrong for I think having him sit until week eight 559 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: or something. Would he's not gonna go. Well, here's what 560 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: I thought. I agree. I thought yesterday was a nice 561 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: sign for the Browns organization that after a week or 562 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: so of the strange comments about holding Johnny Manziel down, 563 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: finally after this Vegas thing, what really the good thing 564 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: came out of it was the coach coming out and 565 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Mike pett and be like, I don't care. He even 566 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: checked with me. He said it was fine. It's fine 567 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: for him to go to Vegas. He he told me 568 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: he was studying. He gave him the benefit of the doubt, 569 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: and he told the media so. And then Manzell because 570 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's jf and and he's a 571 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: fun guy. You know, when the media was trying to 572 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: give him some heat about it, He's like, listen, I'll 573 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: do what I want to do. It's my life. I 574 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: do my work and then I do I do my play. 575 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: And I could separate those two things. Everything made sense. 576 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: And I like that it wasn't turned into a bigger 577 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: thing by the Browns. I agree, I didn't we see 578 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: like it seems like a shift in philosophy on how 579 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna handle Johnny Football. See Vegas is the greatest 580 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: thing in the world. I think they were the They 581 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: were like the guy that got away too hot girlfriend 582 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: and had no idea how to handle that out of 583 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: the gate because they've never had one, and they're starting 584 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: to get their moxie, their understanding what they're dealing with 585 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: for now, let's see where we are next podcast. I 586 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: also like the biggest the biggest winner of the Vegas 587 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: trip for Johnny Football was DJ Pauli D of Jersey 588 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Shore Fame back on the radar, back on the grid, 589 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: you know the situation. Probably saw that and was like, 590 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: has no idea what I d I didn't know that 591 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: he had intertwined. I didn't need the mixture is one 592 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: of the shots. There's an instagram out there with the 593 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: two of those. DJ is listening to this right now. 594 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, I make three point three million a 595 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: year DJ Vegas, so I know he's doing okay in 596 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: his life. But back on the grid. I didn't realize 597 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: until I moved to l A that DJ's are basically 598 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: like athletes and movie stars in this area. In the 599 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: l A Vegas area. It's amazing. They have billboards and 600 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: they get paid millions of dollars for spinning a record. 601 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, do they have a DJ and 602 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: hucka poose? It sounds like no, No, they have a playlist, 603 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: a very good playlist. DJ. Come on, I think I'm 604 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: hanging out of place with a DJ h West. What 605 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: is your give me a takeaway from me the Tuesday 606 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: or Wednesday? Uh? My takeaway is I wish Bruce arians 607 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: was still not a liar. After he drafted Logan Thomas, 608 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: he admitted I lie pretty good because he said, you know, 609 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to draft a quarterback. We've got Carson Palmer. Well, 610 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: now he's talking about Andre Ellington, a scat back who 611 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: has gained ten pounds and maybe he's got a little 612 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: more dirt ability than last year when they decided they 613 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: had to play the discarded husk of Richard Mendenhall over 614 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Andre Ellington because he's not he's not he doesn't have 615 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: the body, finn Hips slightly build. Now he's gonna get 616 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty touches the game, which would break 617 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: all NFL records. He's gonna get five hundred touches on 618 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: this season. Well, the coaches always throughout these numbers, though, 619 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: and they're not doing the math of thirty touches a 620 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: game equals four. I don't think that necessarily means he's lying. 621 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: I think he is looking at Ellington as a guy 622 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: who's going to touch the ball a lot more this 623 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: year and as the centerpieces. I believe that West, Halloween, 624 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: you just referred to a living being as a discarded husk. 625 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: I watched some Ellington or really some Carson Palmer. Ellington 626 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: always just pops off the screen, and when you watch 627 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: Andrea Ellington, I think, why is this guy not getting 628 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: the ball more? And there is not much separation between 629 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: a Lashawn McCoy type of player in Andrea Ellington that 630 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: I think he has the potential to be a top 631 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: five or six running back in the league, That he 632 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: is that good when you watch his movement skills and everything. 633 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not thirty a game, but it wouldn't surprise 634 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: me to see Andre Ellington rack up yards and go 635 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. But isn't West annoyed because you 636 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: followed fantasy football for a decade plus and these kind 637 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: of nonsensical promises happen every year at this time. That's 638 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: part of why I'm annoyed. I'm also annoyed because the 639 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals themselves said he's thin hipped and slightly built. So 640 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: would you give Jarryus Norwood three carries? No, he's gonna 641 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: get injured if they decided last year. If they decided 642 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: last year, he's not built right to handle a work 643 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: workload or to be your between the tackles back. I 644 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: don't think ten pounds is really going to change that. 645 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Guys develop into that. Lashawn McCoy is certainly tougher than 646 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: when he started in the league. It happens with guys. 647 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: Some guys don't like. I don't think Leon Washington was 648 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: ever going to be that guy, but he's a guy 649 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: who was similar to Andre Ellington style wise. Greg Your 650 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: takeaway that Bill O'Brien, the Texans coach, came right out 651 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: on day one of O t a s and made 652 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: it clear it's not Ryan Fitzpatrick's job, that this is 653 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: an open quarterback competition. We're we're just assuming Fitzpatrick is 654 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: the favorite. It probably is the favorite, but no one. 655 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: No one can love Ryan Fitzpatrick, and I think O'Brien 656 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: and the Texans are in that group. They didn't want 657 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: him to be the true number one for a guy 658 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: that quarterback guru Bill O'Brien still waiting to see it happen. Sorry, 659 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: he's one of many guys through the building that made 660 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady look good. I I haven't. There's not a 661 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: long pedigree and developed Matt mcgloyin. That's fair Mattlin, big 662 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: home run. This is exactly the opposite of what I 663 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: thought when they hired him. Where they'd be with the 664 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: quarterback situation, which is essentially a bathtub full of backups. 665 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: There's not one guy here that you can sell to 666 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: your fan base and say, get excited. There's a guy 667 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: to really develop here. Maybe Keenum, I guess, but I 668 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: think the team already kind of wrote the guy off 669 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: last year. Why would they all be in a bathtub? 670 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: I saw bathtub full of backups. They are opening for 671 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: the violent family. Get excited, Texas. Yeah, j Yates, Case Keenum. 672 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien to say this, we already knew Case Keenum 673 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: was in this quarterback race with Ryan Fitzpatrick. If it 674 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: was all just a genius play by the Texans after 675 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: getting the next Lawrence Taylor in this year's draft, saying, 676 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what, screw the quarterback position. It will cause 677 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: us to go on the tank again. That's fine. Another 678 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: three and thirteen, bang, they take the top quarterback and 679 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: next year's draft, and now all of a sudden they 680 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: have two massive, dynamic number one picks back to back. 681 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Here we go, Dallas is picking number one. That's what 682 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. What Dallas takes. They're gonna pass pass 683 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: on Manzel in two thousand fourteen and then take a 684 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: quarterback first overall in two if Romo gets hurt again 685 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: and we didn't have to come in, you guys are 686 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: talking like you know something we don't. It's something up fired. 687 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: The last two coaches attached to Brandon Weed and lost 688 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: their jobs. Brenda Weeden is not taking a meaningful snap 689 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys this year. It's just not gonna happen. 690 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's gonna be the backup quarterback. 691 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: Do you really think Ryan Mallett, somebody that's not in 692 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: the picture right now would be my prediction? Case Keenum 693 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: t j Y to the quarterback. They're still getting the 694 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: number one draft pick. Um. I am a little nervous 695 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: about my my hometown Jet team. A little bit of 696 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: a potential distraction going on there now with the quarterback situation. 697 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: I think we've all kind of seen it coming. And 698 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: on Wednesday there was there was some heat. There was 699 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: some legit heat. Rex Ryan was asked about Michael Vick's 700 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: comments from a week earlier about you know he Vick 701 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: said this is not an open competition. He's competing, and 702 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: then Rex came out. They asked him immediately, of course 703 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: is it an open competition, to which Rex applied, Um, 704 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, of course it is, and sure is something 705 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: along loose lines. Minutes later and you follow this on Twitter. 706 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: Now the all the Beat guys go from Rex's press 707 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: conference to the Jets locker room and asked Michael Vick, uh, so, 708 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, is this an open competition? And Vick's response 709 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: was nah, it's not an open competition. So there's still 710 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: I My feeling on this is that Vick needs to 711 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: pipe down. I said this earlier this week on the 712 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: podcast and stop talking so much. But this is kind 713 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: of what you invited in when you signed a uh, 714 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, high profile player to compete against your incumbent, 715 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: and the Jets seem like they might have a bit 716 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: of turbulence coming to Foreign Park this summer. Gold Standard, 717 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: cue up some circus music back in town. Start. They 718 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: can't even foresee the ridiculous stories that will be coming 719 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: out of the Jets this year. Was West said yesterday, 720 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: my spiky sense is tingling. Something's just a miss here. 721 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: It's just it's not right. It's it's a little ugly. Well, 722 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: the other weird thing about it is that enriched to 723 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: Meni of ESPN New York, uh commented a VIC sounded 724 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: brainwashed when when they came and spoke of him, initially 725 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: repeating talking pointing like someone had gotten to him. But 726 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: then despite that, he also then dropped the comment again 727 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: that he still didn't believe it was an open competition. 728 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: I think the only thing that could really backfire on 729 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: the Jets here is a VIC continually talks through the 730 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: summer and makes these type of comments, and I guess 731 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: they can't put a muzzle on the guy. Maybe a 732 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: poor choice of words regarding Michael. I don't blame it, 733 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, I I think they're they're in a tough 734 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: spot if he's gonna want to talk, and as a 735 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: veteran with a lot of past success. They can't necessarily 736 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: control the guy. It's gonna put them in a very 737 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: bad spot that maybe they didn't foresee. Nobody has reported 738 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: exactly what Vic was promised when he signed, but I 739 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: know before he signed there was a report from one 740 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: of the local papers that said Vic will be offered 741 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: the chance to compete for the starting job, and Ian 742 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: Rappaport said a couple of weeks before Vick signed, he's 743 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: he's willing to wait months to sign with a team 744 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get a chance to compete for the 745 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: starting job. So he signs a couple of weeks later 746 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Why would he sign there if he 747 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: wasn't promised a chance to compete. This is on Itzick, 748 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. Because to two summers ago 749 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: you had Sanchez and Tebow battling depress that was a nightmare. 750 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: So its it takes over and takes Gino Smith and 751 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: has him dealing with Sanchez last summer, which was uncomfortable. 752 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: He had a chance to put Gino alone in this 753 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: job and not add this dimension. And you're shaking your 754 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: head day yeah, because we all agreed that was the 755 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: right move two months ago. And now it's agreed if 756 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: if Vic has a chance to win the job, because 757 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: I think Vic is the better quarterback. If he's if 758 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: he's suddenly being told now, no, you're not, you're gonna 759 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: sit back and be a good teammate. You're until he 760 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: until he faced plan, that's poor man. And I don't 761 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: think that's what he's been told. That's just an assumption 762 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: that people are making. I think it's an o t 763 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: a story. I don't think it matters. And they needed 764 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: to bring in Vic because they couldn't just rely on Gino. 765 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: And if this is the worst that happens, that there's 766 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: some stuff in the media and a little back and forth, 767 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe there is something that this is a story that 768 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: will go on all year because it will. It's gonna 769 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: be a drama. I don't think it affects them winning 770 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: or losing, but I do think it's going to be 771 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: a daily drama. It's not good for Rex Ryan to 772 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: have to comment on this every press conference. It's just 773 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: it's the last thing they need. But you know what, 774 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: that's part of the gig in New York too. Like 775 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: if it wasn't this, it would be something else. Jet 776 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan has been answering things for four or five 777 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: years now, and this is going to be the thing 778 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: that he deals with this year. But anything other than 779 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation is a lot less problematic. Rex Ryan 780 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: doesn't want to have to deal with the quarterback situation, 781 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: and here he is again, Well, until they have a 782 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: true franchise quarterback, last year was relatively quiet. They had 783 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: no other options. You know, you're talking in general. Yeah, 784 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: the media didn't go to wild Sanchez training camp, but 785 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: Sanchez has taken out of the equation. That's the only reason. 786 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: It was the healthiest that team has been with the 787 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: press for a long time, and they invited it all 788 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: back in with this by signing a Though it wasn't 789 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: a bad Schael if he was right, if their intention 790 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: was to say we're gonna go with Geno in year two, 791 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: the way the Bills did, for instance, with e. J. 792 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: Manuel for better or worse, there's no drama on Buffalo, 793 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: but there is in New York because they brought a 794 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: guy that everyone assumes is a more electric, more trustworthy 795 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: player under center then their second year quarterback, and wasn't 796 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: given a backup contract, was given a mid level you 797 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: can compete to start contract. They signed him as a 798 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 1: security blanket. They really did. And that's naive if you're 799 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: the Jets and you can disagree, but I mean you can. 800 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: This circus can't. It's usually naive. And I don't believe 801 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: for a second that Michael Vick was told he's going 802 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: to be the backup when he signed, and has he 803 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: been told now he is the backup. I believe he's 804 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: been told this is Geno Smith's job to lose. But 805 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: does anybody know this? No, I believe that that's what 806 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: his statements are telling you. Why would he say it's 807 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: not an open competition. It's such a weird compartment. We 808 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on behind the scenes. But everything, 809 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I think, everything we can infer is Michael Vick was 810 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: told at first you're gonna have a chance to compete 811 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: to start, and has been told since then you have 812 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: a chance to compete to start. But Gino is going 813 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: to be the guy unless he messes up. And that's 814 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: still the case, right, But there's a very subtle but 815 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: important distinction. Well, we'll see how it plays out. I 816 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: I've always thought that Gino will be the starter, and 817 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: then the first sign of trouble. They're going to bring 818 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: in Vic and that's still how I see it playing out. 819 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: And if that's how it plays out, then I think 820 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: it was the right signing. They have to just deal 821 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: the stuff if Vick is going to talk though, in 822 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: my opinion, alright, gentlemen, that is it a lot of 823 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: little Jets heat man. Sorry to leave on that competitive 824 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: talk about the Jets, but we're gonna we'll be back 825 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: when when's the next shot? Yeah, we will be back. 826 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: Competition Open competition are three week three shows a week 827 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: back next week Monday, Wednesday, Friday and gold Standard. Before 828 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: we go, we need to talk about when West's toaster. Yes, 829 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: we do have you what what's this? Any updates? I'm 830 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: still refurbishing the elimination chamber, so the updates are there. 831 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of spikes coming in, some weird 832 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: deliveries to NFL media. I believe you had to refurbish, right, Yeah, yeah, 833 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: you know it didn't do the job last time. I 834 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: gotta keep turning up the heat. Alright, good, So how 835 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: do people get in touch with you? Well, you can 836 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: either contact me at that damn yank on Twitter or 837 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: the Around the League page at at NFL, underscore at 838 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: l but mostly at that. Damn yank just give me 839 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: some keep us out of it, you know, come on, yeah, yeah, no, 840 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: Just let me know that you want to be a 841 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: part of it. You've got to actually be based in 842 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: the United States or Canada. I guess we can do. 843 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: North America's gonna be able to call in, So that's 844 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: sort of the problem there. Thank you all of our 845 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: esteemed international listeners, and again, send those money tags hashtag 846 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: money tags to our around the league Twitter account. Do 847 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: our work for us. All right, that's it until Monday. 848 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: This is Dan hands is signing up for the Mailman, 849 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: the Sizzler and the Boss and the gold standard behind 850 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: the glass until next week. Aston Villa Stadium being like 851 00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: rund Deal