1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Prediction of ByHeart Radio. 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm Anny Resa and I'm Lauren vogel Baum, and today 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: we have an episode for you about Krispy Creme. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: M hm. Was there any particular reason this was on 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: your mind? Lauren? 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Uh, well, okay, So I've been wanting to do I 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: love doing corporate episodes because they can go in wild 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: places that you're not expecting them to. And I had 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: been looking at the major US donut chain brands, and 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: I have been in the South for long enough that 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: I was morally obligated to pick Krispy Kream before Dunkin Donuts. 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Yes, which I briefly mentioned in the last episode that 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we did. Oh gosh, what was it? 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: It could have been anything. 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: It could have been anything, but whatever previously came out 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: to this. I mentioned that in the US, we don't 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: really have a breakfast and I found a whole article 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: from the Bitter Southerner that was about how Dunkin Donuts 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of capitalized Oh sure, you know American runs on 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: duncan go fast, fast fast, and Krispy Kreme was like, no, 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: come in and sit down or you know, and stay 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, the kind of differences between southern and northern, 23 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: but also what succeeded where and it was really fascinating. 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: But yes, they're not a sponsor Chrispy krean no, nor 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Dunkin Donuts, No, no, nope, not currently. I haven't had 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme in a really long time, but college years 27 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I remember it very well. Oh sure, yes, there was 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: a there, there's one. I know, we're going to talk 29 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: about it. But there's kind of a famous Krispy Kreme 30 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: in Atlanta and one time my good friend was driving 31 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: and the hot sign was on. If you don't know 32 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: if that is, we'll talk about it more or later. 33 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: But essentially it's just like there's hot fresh doughnuts. 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: It tells you when the donuts are fresh. 35 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she made a very dangerous turn get into 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: the Krispy Kreme and we later found out it's always on. 37 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's great at that location at least it's 38 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: always on. 39 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: And I read that in multiple articles when I was 40 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: studying studying, researching this is that people would take these 41 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: turns to get into. 42 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I have hot sign. I have seen that. 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: I have witnessed that. I think I've been in the 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: car when someone else did that. Yes, it is a 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: pretty universal Atlanta experience. 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: It is, indeed. And another friend of mine, she loves 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme. 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: She she's always texting me about Krispy Kreme has this 49 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: new flavor, and I'm like, well, what, I'm glad you're 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: excited about it. 51 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: What newsletter are you on? But also I remembered that 52 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: when I was in marching band, we used to sell 53 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Krispy Cream doughnuts as fundraising techniques totally, and one time 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I was selling them inside Walmart and I got kicked 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: out for soliciting. And I still they were correct to 56 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: kick me out, but I still chafe at the memory 57 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: of the whole thing. 58 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember having access to 59 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: Krispy Kreme anywhere when I was growing up, but in college, 60 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: the first place that I lived was like downwind of 61 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: a Krispy Kreme, and so I could tell just by 62 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: walking outside whether or not the hot now sign was on. 63 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: And it was horrifying. It was the most dangerous, wonderful things. 64 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Perhaps shockingly, I didn't actually eat that many at that 65 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: point in my life because I was so broke. I 66 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: just didn't have money to spend on donuts. But I 67 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: guess that helps. 68 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but uh yeah, oh it's wonderful and uh and yeah, yeah, 69 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: I've got a very positive association with the brand from 70 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: any number of like like office coffee hangouts or you know, 71 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 4: like like family visits or stuff like that. 72 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 73 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: I do also have a lot of good associations with 74 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, and early morning where somebody in a 75 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: dozen Krispey cream or something like that. It's just like 76 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: nice and sweet, but it's not too sweet. They're generally 77 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: pretty good because I'm very sensitive to sweet. 78 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, you don't even 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: enjoy sweet things that much. So if you have good 80 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: feelings about it, then they're doing a good job. 81 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Admittedly this is a long time ago, but but yeah, uh, okay, 82 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: you can see our donut episode Jelly Donuts. 83 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: We did it one on jelly donuts, not all donuts. 84 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: All right, Well, all right, you can see that one. 85 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I would say biscuits is relevant. 86 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: Related, sure maybe churros, Yeah, yeah. 87 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. All right. But I guess 88 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: this brings us to our question. 89 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: Sure, Crispy Cream, what is it? Well, Krispy Cream is 90 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 2: a brand of donuts and coffee that can be found 91 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: in grocery stores and also that owns and franchises out 92 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: donut shops. They focus on yeast raised doughnuts that are 93 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: very airy and fluffy, very melt in your mouth. They 94 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: come in your typical donut ring or toroid if you're nasty, 95 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: with a thin sugar glaze and or a topper of 96 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: only slightly thicker icing in flavors like chocolate or strawberry. 97 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: They also have disc shaped doughnuts that are similarly glazed 98 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: and or iced and filled with like jelly, custard or 99 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: fluffy type of icing that they call cream with a 100 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: K because that's how their name is spelled. You can 101 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: buy them singly or more commonly by three, six or 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: a dozen. For drinks, they have like plain coffee, iced coffee, 103 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 2: and then a bunch of sweetened and flavored espresso drinks 104 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: and blended frozen drinks. The shops and packaging are branded 105 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: in like white and forest green, with a really like 106 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: retro mid century kind of vibe. The shops are the 107 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: kind of place that you might stop for a treat 108 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: with the kids, you know, and they often feature a 109 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: window into the donut machinery in the back and out front. 110 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: Each shop that has that also has this red orange 111 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: neon sign that says hot now that they turn on 112 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: when fresh donuts are coming off the line. Maybe that 113 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: shop has fresh donuts coming off the line all the time. 114 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: I don't know their business. And yeah, these these donuts 115 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: are often eaten for breakfast or a snack, like in 116 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: group settings, right, like someone might pick up a dozen 117 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: to bring to the office or to your mechanic or 118 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: something like that, or maybe like as a weekend breakfast treat. 119 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: The brand is kind of aggressively nostalgic and is very loved. 120 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: It is sturdy and long lasting in exactly the way 121 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: that its donuts are not. 122 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a vibe. It's got like a the 123 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: whole look of the stores if you go in, if 124 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you actually go in and you can see the donuts, 125 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: like the line. 126 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: It's all very clean, very very spick and span, very shiny, 127 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, like they'll give you a little paper donut hat. Yes, 128 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: it's not shaped like a donut, it's just you know, 129 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: the little service hat. 130 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Right. 131 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called anyway, Okay. Krispy Kream 132 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: has several standard donuts and usually four ish limited time ones. 133 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: The standard rings are original glazed, chocolate iced, and chocolate 134 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: ice with rainbow sprinkles. These standard fills are glazed with 135 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: raspberry jelly, glazed with lemon custard, chocolate iced with vanilla custard, 136 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: and chocolate iced with that fluffy cream that I mentioned before. 137 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: They do also have a single standard cake style donut 138 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: at this very moment, which is a blueberry cake with 139 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: that glaze on it, glazed a yeast raised cinnamon roll 140 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: right now. They're limiteds are like spring and or Easter themed, 141 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: like a filled donut with marshmallow flavored cream and a 142 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: pastel yellow icing on top, with like cute little bunny 143 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: face drawn on with chocolate drops for the eyes and nose, 144 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: and then little candy ears. Yeah. Each franchise can choose 145 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: which flavors to stock Their coffee drinks. Do come and 146 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: write hot, iced and frozen with flavors like caramel or mocha. 147 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: They do have an original glazed flavor of coffee. And 148 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued because I don't know what nervous. I don't 149 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: know what flavor the glaze is like. It's glaze flavored 150 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: like what is what? Anyways, the brand does also have 151 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: a pretty popular fund raising program that lets organizations basically 152 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: purchase goods at a discount and then sell them for profit, 153 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: either via pre sale sale of digital coupons or by 154 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: picking up a whole bunch of donuts to sell wherever 155 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: except for inside a Walmart. Apparently, they also do catering 156 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: if you'd like to order more than like four dozen 157 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: at a time. And that's all at their shops. Some 158 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: grocery stores and convenience stores sell Crispy Creame brand coffee 159 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: to make it home, and donuts that are delivered in 160 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: fresh daily from a local shop or production center. Some 161 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: McDonald's I think currently only in Kentucky and Indiana do 162 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: also sell individual donuts. Yeah, yeah, that's new. But anyway, 163 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: this is all in the United States. Shops in other 164 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: countries which do exist have other flavors and stuff. For example, 165 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: in the UK, they have options like a chocolate hazelnut 166 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: filled donut you know, Natella type style one filled with 167 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: strawberry cream, a ring dipped in a milk and white 168 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: chocolate icing, and a bisc Off Co branded donut filled 169 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: with Biscoff flavored cream and topped with a biscof spread 170 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: and biscoff crumbles. It's a it's a lot of bit. 171 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: It's very biscoffee. They have had similar limited time options 172 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: in the States, but I have I have the idea 173 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: that that that that bisk Off one is more permanent. Anyway, 174 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: the system that they have worked out to produce and 175 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: distribute all of these donuts is pretty intricate. So like 176 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: they do have regional donut factories to help supply fresh 177 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: doughnuts to shops that do not produce their own, along 178 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: with supplying to other vendors like carts and food trucks 179 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: and grocery stores. But those stores with the machinery in 180 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: the back and the hot Now sign out front can 181 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: be self sustaining and can even provide product for those 182 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: other vendors Locally, they're called factory stores or in business lingo, 183 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: the hot light theater shops. Oh I read. I read 184 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: a lot of investor relations information while preparing for this episode, 185 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: and it's really funny. They just just all investor relations material. 186 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Is really funny. 187 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: Why not? 188 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: No way that it intends to be at any rate. Yes, 189 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: deliveries from these places to other places that sell them 190 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: are made daily, and they also have manufacturing facilities where 191 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: they blend and package the ingredients for their products, including 192 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: donut mixes, the specific sugar and yeast that they use, 193 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: and also the filling mixes, and right in the factory stores, 194 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: you can peek in on the machinery. Back when our 195 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: original company that we were podcasting under, How Stuff Works, 196 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: was still based in North Carolina, in like the early Oughts, 197 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: they took a tour and explained how it all worked. 198 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: Since then, the physical machinery is still pretty much the same. 199 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: I suspect it's been that way since way before then, actually, 200 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: but they have updated their drives and controllers to make 201 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: everything more easily monitored. And a fish a little bit 202 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: more in that on that in the history section. But yes, So, 203 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: in order to create a crispy cream donut, the donut 204 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: mix is added to some water in yeast, and then 205 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: the rings are formed by an extrusion machine. It's the 206 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: kind of thing that uses pressurized air to force the 207 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: dough through a ring shaped tube and then we'll slice 208 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: each separate donut off at the other end. No donuts 209 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: never have a hole that needs to be punched out. 210 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: That's a marketing thing for filled donuts, the ring shaped 211 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: tube is swapped out for just a cylinder that makes 212 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: a solid circle. Anyway, the extruder deposits the rings or 213 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: circles on a conveyor belt that brings them to the proofer. 214 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: And this is a big glass box with a controlled 215 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: heat and humidity inside to help the dough proof. That 216 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: is for the yeast to get to work and make 217 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: the dough rise. Baker's yeast, as we have talked about before, 218 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: eats sugar and poops carbon dioxide and flavor yeast fool. 219 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: The carbon dioxide bubbles will stretch out the dough and 220 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: make it puff out. The process takes like fifteen to 221 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, and the doughnuts zigzag through the box on 222 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: these conveyor trays at just the right speed so that 223 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: when they reach the end of the box they're ready 224 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: to be cooked. The machine then tips them out onto 225 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: another conveyor belt, which pulls the donuts through a bath 226 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: of hot oil. The conveyor belt has these bars just 227 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: tall enough to trap rows of doughnuts in place and 228 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: let them float through the oil. It's a little bit 229 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: like how in some theme park water rides the cars 230 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: do like a controlled float yeah, except through hot oil 231 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: not water. Since the donuts are floating, only one side 232 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: will cook, so halfway through the bath, this rotating arm 233 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: flips them over from underneath. It takes about forty five 234 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: seconds on each side. And I don't know if this 235 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: is still accurate, but at least as of the early 236 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: two thousands, a few times a day a manager like 237 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: checks and make sure that the timing is just right 238 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: on both the proofing and the frying end, because, as 239 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: anyone who's ever gotten into baking knows, all kinds of 240 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: environmental factors can affect dough and cook times even in 241 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: a relatively controlled kitchen environment. The belt will deposit be 242 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: fried doughnuts onto a cooling belt, and then when they're 243 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: a little bit cooler, the doughnuts destined to be glazed 244 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: are pulled under the sort of waterfall of liquid glaze 245 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: made of sugar and water and stuff basically flavors and 246 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot of things to help make the texture just right. 247 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: And when that hot now sign is on, an employee 248 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: will pull donuts right off of the glazing belt and 249 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: box them up for you. And if you order something 250 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: like chocolate ice, just hand dip the chocolate icing on. 251 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: If they're meant to be sent out for delivery elsewhere, though, 252 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: they're allowed to cool for another forty minutes or so 253 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: on a long slow ride back to the packing room 254 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: so that the glaze has time to stiffen up a bit. 255 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: You can get almost crackly when it's dry, which is 256 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: nice for the package donuts. Any icing will be applied 257 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: with another waterfall type machine. They're then handboxed, loaded into trays, 258 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: and loaded into company run delivery trucks. Filled donuts are 259 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: super cool. Okay, they're filled by hand with the help 260 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: of a machine that the filling gets mixed together and 261 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: then poured into this tank that's attached to a pump, 262 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: and the pump can feed the exact right amount of 263 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: filling out through this long, sharp ended nozzle and two 264 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: nozzles sit side by side, so a worker can take 265 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: a pair of donuts, slide them onto the nozzles, and 266 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: then push a button in under the nozzles to activate 267 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: the pump, and then pull the donuts off the nozzles 268 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: as the filling is injected, so that it goes in evenly. 269 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: It's just really simple, but like really cool. 270 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really cool. I mean it's me if 271 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: you go in it is very it feels like one 272 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: of those very touristy you want. Yeah, something get made, 273 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: which we are going to talk about a little bit 274 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: in his rejection. But yeah, it's fun. 275 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: Watching how stuff gets made is a whole thing. Yeah, 276 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: it is. 277 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: It is part of why we're here. M Well, what 278 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: about the nutrition. 279 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh, treats are nice. Treats are nice. 280 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Treats are nice. Well, we do have some numbers for you. 281 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh, quite a few see above read and investor relation papers. Okay, So, 282 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: as of the early two thousands, Krispy Kreme's largest factory 283 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: shops could produce eight hundred and eighty donuts an hour. 284 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Uh huh. Today, getting a factory shop up and running 285 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: costs between two to five million dollars. There is a 286 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: real fancy one in Times Square that costs ten million 287 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: when it opened in twenty twenty. If anyone has been, 288 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: let me know it sounds real. 289 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: Goofy. It does a note when it opened. 290 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right and interesting. As of twenty twenty four, 291 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: Krispy Kreme had three hundred and ninety four factory shops 292 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 2: around the world, plus another one thousand, six hundred and 293 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: eighty four shops that do not produce their own donuts, 294 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: and over fifteen thousand other vendors, for a total worldwide 295 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: of seventeen thousand, five hundred and fifty seven places that 296 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: you can buy at Krispy Kreme. 297 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, they've got fans. They've got a fan base. 298 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: Interesting machine. Yeah. About half their shops are franchisees, half 299 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: her company owned. Together, they employ some twenty two thousand, 300 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: eight hundred people. In twenty twenty four, the company made 301 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: a net revenue of one point six billion dollars. Along 302 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: the fundraiser line, apparently, Krispy Kreme earned over forty three 303 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: million dollars for about one hundred thousand organizations in twenty 304 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: twenty three alone. They are an international company, but do 305 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: about sixty percent of their business in the United States, 306 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: and as of twenty twenty the company was selling about 307 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: one point three billion donuts a year, sixty four percent 308 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: of which was the original glazed. 309 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 310 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of donuts. It's a whole bunch of donuts. 311 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: But they started they started mid sized. Actually, I feel 312 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: like they always kind of had a plan. 313 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I think they did. And what is comical to me 314 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: is that they realized early on. You know what, the 315 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: smell business, oh spelling of the hot fresh donuts is 316 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: important to our business. So there is quite a history. 317 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we are going to get into that 318 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: as soon as we get back from a quick break. 319 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: For a word from our sponsors, and we're back. 320 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Well again see our 321 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: jelly donut episode. I guess we haven't done just a 322 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: donut one yet. 323 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 324 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Foiled again, but yes. Krispy Kreme was the brainchild of 325 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: Vernon Rudolph during the Great Depression. Rudolph, like many others, 326 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: was trying to find a way to make a living 327 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: when things were pretty grim, so he got the idea 328 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: of opening a donut shop. He purchased a recipe for 329 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: a yeast raised donut from a chef out of New 330 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Orleans in nineteen thirty three. There's a lot of a 331 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: lot of debate over who that was or if it 332 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: was true, but that's the story. That same year, he 333 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: opened a doughnut shop in Paducah, Kentucky. Okay. At this 334 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: point things get a little messy because a lot of 335 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: places like to claim they're the birthplace of the first 336 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme, especially state websites. 337 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh yes, but here it goes. 338 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: A few cities do lay claim to the first official 339 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme, and there are some technicalities involved. National claims 340 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: that the first official Krispy Kreme was opened there by 341 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Rudolph and Ishmael Armstrong, who was Rudolph's uncle and business partner, 342 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty seven. Soon after that one was opened, 343 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: a few members of Rudolph's family opened stores in Atlanta, Georgia, 344 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: and Charleston, West Virginia. So those cities they also get 345 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: in on this whole thing, yes, But with dreams of 346 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: owning his own store without a partner, Rudolph moved on 347 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: to Winston Salem, North Carolina, and opened a Krispy Kremes 348 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: store there on July thirteenth, nineteen thirty seven, which yes, 349 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: is the same year as the one in Tennessee. But 350 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: he was on the move. He was quick. Allegedly, he 351 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: didn't have enough money to buy the ingredients he needed 352 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: in the beginning to make these donuts, so he made 353 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: a deal with grocery stores to pay them for the 354 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: ingredients as soon as he earned the money from his store. 355 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: And I guess they went with it. At first, Rudolph 356 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: would make the donuts in the store and then sell 357 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: them to these local grocery stores. But yes, as many 358 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: of us know, the smell of fresh hot donuts is 359 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: like a siren's call, so passerby started visiting the store 360 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: directly wanting to buy them. So the story goes that 361 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: Rudolph cut a hole in the wall so he could 362 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: sell the donuts straight to customers. This also allowed customers 363 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: to see some of the production, which they really in. 364 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: It showcased how clean and modern the facility was. It 365 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: was very kind of touristy. As we mentioned, the first 366 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: doughnuts he sold are essentially what the company now labels 367 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: the original glazed and people really dug the product, and 368 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: in the nineteen forties and fifties, Crispy Cream expanded throughout 369 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: the Southeast. With the expansion came some growing pains though. 370 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: For one, all the doughnuts were made from scratch, which 371 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: resulted in a pretty inconsistent product, just not what a 372 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: lot of these stores wanted at the time. So to 373 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: counter that, Rudolph opened a mixing plant just for Krispy 374 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Cream donuts. Each store received deliveries of dry dough from 375 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: the plant, and the next step was developing mechanized donut 376 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: making equipment that cooked and glazed the donuts, speeding up 377 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: the whole process. Then nineteen sixties, the look of the 378 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: stores was standardized as well, with the tiled green roof 379 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: and the sign that we're familiar with. From there, locations 380 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: began opening up outside of the Southeast. Rudolph himself died 381 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three, and his family sold the chain 382 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: to Beatrice Foods Company a few years later, and for 383 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: many franchisees this was unpopular. Moves oh yeah, oh wow. 384 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: The recipe was changed to cut costs, the sign was changed. 385 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: So in response, Joe mcalar spearheaded an effort with other 386 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: early franchisees to come together to buy the company in 387 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, which they did. One of the first 388 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: acts of business was to reverse these changes. 389 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 390 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: They were not having it. 391 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: They were like, no, we know how to make our donuts, 392 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: don't you tell us? 393 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Right? Ridiculous. The infamous hot light was introduced to nineteen 394 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: ninety two, and by nineteen ninety nine Krispy Kremes they 395 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: operated nationwide. A few years later, the business went international, 396 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: opening a store in Canada. 397 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: They went public in the year two thousand and then. 398 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a sidebar, but in 399 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight researchers out of Northwestern University did 400 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: a small study about how hunger affects our self control 401 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: when we're tempted with treats by using Krispy Kreme. A 402 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: press release called it perhaps their first starring role in 403 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: neurological research. So what happened was subjects were either given 404 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: as many donuts as they wanted to eat or asked 405 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: too fast for eight hours. Both groups were then placed 406 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: in fMRIs and shown pictures of two things, screwdrivers and donuts. 407 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: In subjects who had just eaten, neither photo really got 408 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: any kind of reaction, but in subjects who had fasted, 409 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: the picture of the doughnut caused a couple parts of 410 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: the brain to just light up the parts that detect 411 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: and then focus your attention on things that are motivationally 412 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: significant in some way, like you know, food when you're hungry, 413 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: or a car horn when you're walking along a sidewalk, 414 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: which which only makes sense, but you know, doing the 415 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: science to prove it is always pretty cool. 416 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 417 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, sidebar aside, there was some corporate drama. In 418 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, the US Securities and Exchange Commission 419 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: settled this inquiry that had dated from two thousand and 420 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: four into the company's accounting practices that wound up finding 421 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: three then former executives one hundred and fifty thousand in 422 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: just fines and almost six hundred and thirty three thousand 423 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: dollars in ill gotten gains and interest. 424 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh my, yeah, well, continuing with the drama, in twenty fifteen, 425 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: a UK branch had to apologize for promotion for the 426 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: Krispy Kream Club as they were calling it are what 427 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: they also dubbed KKK Wednesday because of the association with 428 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the American. 429 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I'm assuming that what happened was that whoever 430 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: put together that acronym didn't know or. 431 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: One can hope fingers crossed. I think I think you're right. 432 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: I think you're right, but fingers crossed indeed? Yes, all right. 433 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, JAB Holding Company purchased Krispy Kreme for 434 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: one point three five billion dollars. 435 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: They immediately took the company private again. 436 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and then the German family that owns jab Holding 437 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: admitted in twenty nineteen that they profited off of forced 438 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: labor during World War Two. On top of that, investigators 439 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: discovered two of their family members actively abused workers during 440 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: the thirties and forties. After the investigation into the family's 441 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: Nazi ties went public, the managing partner of the company 442 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: and the family's spokesperson didn't deny the accusations and said 443 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: Ryman Senor and Ryman Junior were guilty. The two businessmen 444 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: have passed away, but they actually belonged in prison. 445 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was a really big deal. The holding 446 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: company owns a lot of other stuff like Panera things 447 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: like that, And Junior had actually had kids with a 448 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: woman whose Jewish father was murdered by the Nazis in 449 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: a concentration camp, and their kids are now the heirs 450 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: to the family fortune. And since that investigation, they spend 451 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: at least some of it funding benefits to survivors of 452 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: the Holocaust and to survivors of forest labor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 453 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Nazis are bad as it turns out. Around twenty nineteen ish, 454 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: the company began replacing its power drives and controller mechanisms 455 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: in their donut making machinery they had last been updated 456 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: around two thousand and one, and they wanted to put 457 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: in more modern like connected equipment and software that can 458 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: help keep everything running smoothly and reduce wear to components 459 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: like motors and troubleshoot issues from any shop anywhere in 460 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: the world due to Internet connectivity. Like for example, the 461 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: fry oil in in that bath is constantly heated and 462 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: pumped through the bath in order to keep the the 463 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: temperature and viscosity within the right range and to you 464 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: filter out any stray bits of dough and to prevent 465 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: hot and cold spots. You know that that kind of thing. 466 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: With this modern equipment, it automatically monitors the flow rate 467 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: and can adjust the motor speed automatically if anything goes 468 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: goes off, and furthermore, can adjust the amperage to make 469 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: sure that the motor doesn't overheat while it's doing that, 470 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: so you get a more consistent product and your parts 471 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: don't wear out as fast. And because you know exactly 472 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: how and how often things muck up, you know to 473 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: replace parts before you have a failure. The team working 474 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: on this wound up designing like a retrofiting kit that 475 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: shops could install quickly and easily shout out to Food 476 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: Engineering Magazine, which I'm always glad to see come up 477 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: in my search results because they always have something really 478 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: nerdy and cool to report on. Like, like, all of 479 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: this is just so Like, if any of y'all we're 480 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: doing any kind of tech reading in like the early 481 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: twenty teens, then you are probably as tired as I 482 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: am of the phrase Internet of things. But this, this 483 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: is what it's meant to be right here. Not oh 484 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: I can text my fridge. This is the Internet of things. 485 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: That is cool. What do you have against your fridge, Laurene? 486 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: Wow, Look, my fridge is dumb as a bag of rocks, 487 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: And I love that. 488 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: We're learning a lot about you. 489 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: Well. 490 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: When the COVID vaccine became generally available to the public, 491 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: the company Krispy Kreme offered things like free donuts for 492 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: those that could show proof a vaccination. 493 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they do promoms like that for various things, 494 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: like a tax day in the USA. So if yeah, 495 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: it's which is which is cool? I'm like, yeah, you 496 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: can reward people for doing good stuff. Also, in twenty 497 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: twenty one, they went public again. You can now find 498 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: them on the Nasdaq under the ticker d nut, which 499 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: I think is cute. 500 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I wonder what duncans is. 501 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't looked it up. It's probably it's probably 502 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: dkn I would assume anyway. Possibly relatedly to going public again, 503 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, they also launched a new responsibility 504 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: directive called b Suite. It includes initiatives to curb environmental harm, 505 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: reduce waste, promote animal welfare like us switching to cage 506 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: free eggs, and encourage DEI and other labor considerations, which 507 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 2: are good things. Yeah, yeah, love them. Okay, Now onto 508 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: our extremely Atlanta note. I couldn't let us go without 509 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: putting in here that right. We have had this this 510 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: one location in this busy part of town since the 511 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: nineteen sixties and it's very popular. It is the one 512 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: that both Annie and I have had near death experiences 513 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: trying to get to. And in twenty sixteen, Shaquille O'Neill 514 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: bought the location, or I mean, you know, franchised it, 515 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: and then it got set on fire twice in twenty 516 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: twenty one, leading to its demolition, but then was rebuilt 517 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. They never caught the arsonist that 518 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: is also Atlanta. 519 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: Yes, it really is. 520 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I love it. But anyway, Yeah, 521 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, some McDonald's locations began selling individual 522 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: Krispy Creme donuts, and the company is actually planning like 523 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: a factory store expansion in several cities in order to 524 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: get donuts into more McDonald's locations. Huh okay, uh huh yeah. 525 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: As part of that. So okay, remember how I said 526 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: that you can currently purchase a Krispy Kreme at over 527 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: seventeen thousand locations. They're looking to get that number up 528 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: to seventy five thousand locations and become as Restaurant Business 529 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: Magazine termed it, quote an omni channel treat provider. 530 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm scared. 531 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: For Omney channel treat provider. 532 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm on edge, feel threatened. 533 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. For the second time this episod. So the first 534 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: one was the original glazed flavored coffee. 535 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: I know, Krispy Creme, they're up to stuff. They are 536 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: up to stuff. Well, that was kind of the point 537 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: of that article I mentioned about the competition between Duncan 538 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: Donuts and Krispy Kreme. Duncan excuse me. 539 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and oh my goodness, like Duncan is going 540 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: to be a really interesting episode as well. And I 541 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: feel like the fight between those two companies could be 542 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: a third separate episode. 543 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I think it could be too. I think it could 544 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: be too. But yeah, basically, it was sort of like, 545 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, Krispy Kreme is really trafficking in this nostalgia aspects, 546 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: but outside of the South, people might not necessarily have that. 547 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: And even South, sure, we just don't. We're on the 548 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: run all the time. We don't. Really. I have friends 549 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: clearly who love it and get it. I don't think 550 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: it's not I don't. I don't think it's doing poorly 551 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: at all. But there is a space where they are lacking. 552 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they just don't do things 553 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: like breakfast sandwiches that Duncan does, and so it's kind 554 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: of an entirely different business model. 555 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I read somewhere that they don't 556 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: they do like special flavors, but a lot of them 557 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: don't like work out. Oh yeah, they're like good at 558 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: what they do, but what they do is kind of 559 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: outside of that. But I mean people people love it. 560 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: People do love it, and they're big fans. 561 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, And no shade on duncan either. 562 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean no, yeah, both of us have in defense. 563 00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: Backing away from we would never dare never never. 564 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: Would not mess with Ben Affleck on my best day. 565 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no, it's just interesting. 566 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting I guess I haven't 567 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: really thought about Krispy Kreme like that in a while. 568 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: But they are good. They're original, glazed, so good, m 569 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: m mmmmmm, so light. I do like the crackle that 570 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, like, yeah, well, listeners, if you have any 571 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: opinions or thoughts about donuts k please let us know. 572 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: But I think that's what we have to say about 573 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme for now. 574 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: I think it is. We do already have some listener 575 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: mail for you, though, and we are going to get 576 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: into that as soon as we get back from one 577 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: more quick break for a word from our sponsors. 578 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsors, Yes, thank you, And 579 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: we're back with right off the belt, into my mouth, 580 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: into your face. Yeah, it is fun. It is fun. 581 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: It's cool, it is it is indeed all right, Uh, 582 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: Mary wrote hello because we all need giggles right now. 583 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: I played my listener mail when I talked about Hatch 584 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Green Chili and Annie admitted she is now an addict. 585 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry and you're welcome. We were in the car 586 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: and my husband pipes up with I wonder if the 587 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: P n M cookbook is still out there. I told 588 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 1: him this was a great idea. I suggested he tell 589 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: you who it was, and I got the look of 590 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: nope from him. I then suggested he tell you that 591 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: his mom tortilla recipe is in there. That didn't get 592 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: a look, but it didn't make it in there either. 593 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: My final suggestion was to put at the end the 594 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 1: one who rolls his eyes and groans when my wife 595 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: and Annie crack up laughing at puns. That got a 596 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: verbal no. Fast forward to his listener mail being read. 597 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: I was in the car by myself when I heard it. 598 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: I screamed with joy and. 599 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: Stopped the podcast. 600 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: He received a text message filled with more exclamation marks 601 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: than I have you since high school. I was so 602 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: excited for him. His response cool, he doesn't understand how 603 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: amazing it is to have it read on the show. 604 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: Maybe one day. I'm still hoping for a live show 605 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: one day. Our daughter is now old enough to appreciate 606 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: a will placed curse word, so she would be able 607 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: to come to or maybe do a tour. We are 608 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: coming to Atlanta in June. We are hoping to hit 609 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: the aquarium, World of Coke, Natural History Museum, Shakespeare Theater, 610 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: and a ghost tour too. Any suggestions would be appreciated, 611 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: and the more random or local the better. 612 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh oh, we have suggestions for you. 613 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: We do, we do. I've already sent along my map, 614 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: but I I think I could. I think I could 615 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: add some more random if you really want, like the 616 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: random local stuff. I think Lauren and I could oh 617 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: yeah together something yeah, I mean, and it depends on 618 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: what y'all are into. I mean, I mean, aquarium is 619 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: absolutely worth it. The fern Bank Natural History Museum is great, 620 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: Shakespeare Tavern is terrific. I don't think I've been on 621 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: any ghost tours here, but we do have some excellent cemeteries. 622 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: And it's very on brand of me to say that, 623 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: I know, but we really do. Oakland Cemetery is like 624 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of right in the middle of the city and 625 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: it's got you know, like Confederate sections and Jewish sections 626 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's fascinating, really fascinating place to go. You can 627 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: go to the Krispy Cream on ponstantly on. Yes, it 628 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: is really cool. It's great. 629 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've never seen donuts being made at a 630 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: Krispye cream it's terrific. And yes, I said ponstantly on 631 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: and yes, that's how we pronounce it. I understand, yes, 632 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: but that's not how you say that name. 633 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: Yep. 634 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 2: But if you said it the correct way, you would 635 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: be looked at like you had a double like like 636 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: you had a second head here. 637 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: So it's what it is. 638 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: I'll see, I'll I'll brainstorm a little bit. 639 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just write in let us know 640 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: if there's anything specific, uh that you're into. We've got 641 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: We've got a bunch, we've got a bunch of ideas. 642 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: I did get to apologies to everybody. I answered listener 643 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: mail for the first time yesterday as we record this 644 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: since January oh wow. 645 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, it's been a rough couple of months. 646 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: It's been a it's yep, but I yes, but I 647 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: got to see this kind of unfold with Mary and 648 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: your husband because we did read his listener mail, and 649 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the connection related, yeah, until this 650 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: came through. But it was really really fun and so 651 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: I hope I hope that uh, this continues to be 652 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: a fun time for him and not a terrible time. 653 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: But the live show, I mean maybe one day. 654 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, a food tour, yeah, one of these things. I 655 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: don't know. 656 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of these things we. 657 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: Should We should reach out to the iHeart marketing department 658 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: and see and see what they want to put us through. Yes, no, we. 659 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: Would love it. 660 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: We would love to hang out. We would okay, Uh, 661 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: John wrote, I have been following you since episode two. Actually, 662 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 2: I sleep with you guys every night. I tune into 663 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: old episodes and let them lull me to sleep. I 664 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: usually can't get through more than one. It keeps my 665 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: mind off of whatever would keep me awake. Anyway, I 666 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: wanted to comment on the stable non dairy creamer episode 667 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 2: from last fall. You guys say so. 668 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 669 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes with cream, I feel like you're lucky to get 670 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: a week. I get home and it's already off well. 671 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 2: In my experience, heavy whipping cream has a long shelf life. 672 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: Attached as a photo of a container I bought today 673 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 2: with a date of May twelfth, twenty twenty five, which 674 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: is six weeks in the future. My experience with this 675 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: particular brand is that it lasts well beyond the best 676 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: BUYE or whatever date on the package, and yeah, photo 677 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 2: is attached. There's photo evidence there is. 678 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: I have been researching this. 679 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,959 Speaker 2: Lately, yeah, like yeah. 680 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: Kind of, yeah. I just have a couple of things 681 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: that I'm like, really, this is bad already because it 682 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: feels like it shouldn't be and it's like prepackaged in 683 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: such a way. But I also don't want to risk it, 684 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: so I have been looking into I have been looking 685 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: into some things, but this the date is clear, the 686 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: data is clear on the package, and the brand for 687 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: the record is HB SO, which I don't think. 688 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: We have in our area. But I'm not sure if 689 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: they're connected to another grosser brand that I'm not sure. 690 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: I would have to look at that, and there's no 691 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: way for me to check right now. I mean, okay, 692 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: So the thing about dairy is that, like, it's probably 693 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: not gonna hurt you. If you drink it past its 694 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: due date, it might not taste and feel right, yeah, 695 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 2: And if you are looking strongly to avoid that experience, 696 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: then by all means, use all caution rights. 697 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that's where I was trying to 698 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: get some sort of clarity, Uh, in my specific issue. 699 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if we could get you like 700 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 2: like little like acid test strips, and if you could 701 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: if you could like find data on like at what 702 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 2: acidity milk or cream is off? Yeah, I bet, I 703 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: bet you could. I mean those test strips can be expensive, 704 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: or at least the ones for aquarium testing were, but 705 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: they test a lot more than acid levels. 706 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: So. 707 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: That could be interesting. I could run my own experiment. Yeah, well, 708 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: future future as will look into it. I will say, 709 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: I do always get a laugh out of when people 710 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: write in and say we help them sleep. I'm glad. 711 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: Uh oh oh yeah, oh no. I totally always have 712 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: something that I go through, some media that I am 713 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: consuming when I'm falling asleep, because otherwise I'm alone with 714 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: my thoughts and that's the worst. As murder Bot would say, 715 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: my head is where most of my problems are. That 716 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't want that. So yeah, like right, it's lately 717 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 2: it's been old episodes of Supernatural. But yo, absolutely understand 718 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: if we are soothing, that's like the best news I've 719 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 2: heard in my life. 720 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no offense is taken. In fact, I'm happy 721 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: to hear it. 722 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you had phrased it as you guys 723 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: make me fall asleep. That would be weirder. 724 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: And I'd feel a certain way, but I might get 725 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: on board with that. 726 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 2: Took actually either way, I mean yeah, if it's still soothing, 727 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: that's great and you're still listening. Uh huh, there you go, 728 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: there you go. 729 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you to both of these listeners for writing in. 730 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: If you would like to write to us, you can 731 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: our emails hello at saborpod dot com. 732 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: We're also in social media. You can find us on 733 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: Instagram and blue Sky at saber Pod. I know I 734 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: haven't posted in like ever, but again, it's been a 735 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: weird couple of months and our years and or lifetimes, 736 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: but we would love to hear from you. Savor is 737 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, 738 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 2: you can visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 739 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows. Thanks us always to 740 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: our super producers Dylan Fagan and Andrew Howard. Thanks to 741 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 2: you for listening, and we hope that lots more good 742 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: things are coming your way.