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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecock Three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone is uh doing as well as humanly possible.

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Speaker 1: It's Fourth of July week. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but Fourth of July typically is my favorite holiday son

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Speaker 1: Lake alcohol. It just combines my favorite thing. Obviously, there's

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Speaker 1: no baseball to watch on Fourth of July this year,

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Speaker 1: which kind of sucks. Uh Yeah, so just at least

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Speaker 1: it's on a Saturday, I guess. But hopefully everyone's having

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Speaker 1: a good week. And uh, I know, from where I'm sitting,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank the football gods that Belichick and Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton decided to uh to do a deal and gave

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Speaker 1: me something to talk about, because we're gonna dive deep

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Speaker 1: in on the Belichick cam from multiple different angles. I

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Speaker 1: have multiple thoughts as I've taken this in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Uh. We'll also dive in on something

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Speaker 1: I saw with Mark Davis and the Vegas Raider Stadium

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Speaker 1: and just the pressure that's gonna come along with potentially

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Speaker 1: no fans. And there are a couple of teams, definitely

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Speaker 1: the Raiders that are gonna feel that heat, just given

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Speaker 1: how much they are indebted to Uh, to Vegas and

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Speaker 1: how much money they owe and like always Middlecoff mailbag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Those d m s

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Speaker 1: are wide open, same as my Twitter handle. Might just

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Speaker 1: my full at my name, come in there, we interact

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Speaker 1: on the show. For those of you been listening a while, No, no,

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Speaker 1: the drill d ms wide open, fire on in there. Also,

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Speaker 1: would gladly appreciate, uh you firing to the iTunes page

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Speaker 1: where you can find the podcast three and out and

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Speaker 1: leave a review if you've already have tip my hat

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Speaker 1: to you. If you haven't and you like the show,

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Speaker 1: please leave a little five star, leave a comment whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'd appreciate that, uh, and I appreciate everyone that has

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Speaker 1: done that already. So let's dive in to Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and the New England Patriots. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots angle on this one and Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: because I think this move is just classic the hoodie.

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Speaker 1: If you think of Bill Belichick, you think of signing

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton for the veteran minimum, that is like he

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Speaker 1: dreams of doing this stuff. And I can't remember who

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Speaker 1: said it it was. I think I was reading the

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Speaker 1: business book and it was a line that I'll never

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Speaker 1: forget that the profit is made in the buying, not

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Speaker 1: the selling. And I think we often think when we

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Speaker 1: sell something. You know, you sell your home and you

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Speaker 1: sell it for a million dollars, some of you a

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Speaker 1: million dollars, you know, depending on where you lift five

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Speaker 1: grand whatever, and you make six figures. You make a

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Speaker 1: lot of money when you sell your home. Well, the

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Speaker 1: reason you're making all that money is not because of

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Speaker 1: what you're selling it for. It's what you bought it for.

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Speaker 1: If you buy a home for a hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, the reason at home is so profitable is

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Speaker 1: because of what you bought it for. And it's also

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Speaker 1: the reason where it's hard to fail. When you don't

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Speaker 1: on that is huge. That's why you're seeing all these

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Speaker 1: because everyone's trying to mitigate their losses. You can buy

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Speaker 1: right now for really, really cheap. It's why the stock

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Speaker 1: market three months ago when Corona hit, It's like Tony

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Speaker 1: Robbins says, stock market is the only place when things

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Speaker 1: go on sale, people run. If I tell you there's

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Speaker 1: the line would be a mile along. Even in Corona,

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Speaker 1: the Mercedes dealership and buy cars. Everything's half off. We'll

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Speaker 1: be lined up. But when it comes to football players,

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Speaker 1: just like when it comes to certain businesses, you know,

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Speaker 1: the stock market, for sure, people get scared right when

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Speaker 1: you've hit your low mark and you're not like Peyton

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Speaker 1: a major red flag. And when you can get a

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Speaker 1: guy like Cam Newton who's won an m v P,

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Speaker 1: but to me, it's that was years ago. It's more

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Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen, they were six and two and

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Speaker 1: he threw fifteen touchdowns and had four picks and he

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Speaker 1: was playing well. When Cam Newton has played well, simply

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Speaker 1: He is one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks the

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Speaker 1: videos you've seen, he looks relatively healthy now that is

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Speaker 1: not playing football. But the one thing Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 1: In my twenties, I was the most impatient human you've

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Speaker 1: the line, patience is always a strong suit, right. The

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Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of in his personality. You

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Speaker 1: one guy who was not freaking out was Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: and at a front row seat, he didn't freak at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think that kind of symbolizes what he's like

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Speaker 1: as the leader of the Patriots. From a GM business standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I said, the the profit is in what you buy

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Speaker 1: Newton as a starting quarterback, they got a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: Now we don't know if they're all good. But the Browns,

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Speaker 1: who I also read, were interested in Cam. Why would

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Speaker 1: And why this makes the most sense is not because

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Speaker 1: I see this all the time. Sports are a business.

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Speaker 1: Like Garrett Cole, the Yankees paid whatever million dollars for him.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five hollow home runs. It's not worth that. Manny

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Speaker 1: Machado is all but irrelevant in with the Padres. Now.

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Speaker 1: high nineties and being a you know, maybe not an

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Speaker 1: even if the incentives kick in, it's worth every penny.

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Speaker 1: It's why when the forty nine are signed, Richard Sherman too,

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Speaker 1: They will just move on. Now, if you had told

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Speaker 1: better than Jared's did him if he's healthy, which is

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Speaker 1: a big if uh, he looks good in the in

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Speaker 1: the videos that we've seen online, and I give him

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Speaker 1: credit for doing those videos online, clearly he wants to play.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you're humbled, I would imagine everyone

429
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Speaker 1: listening to this. It's it's humanly impossible to not be

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Speaker 1: humbled occasionally in life, right with in any in any

431
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Speaker 1: personal relationship, in any professional relationship. It happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really healthy sometimes when you have to

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Speaker 1: look in the mirror and go, you know what, I

434
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Speaker 1: have to change this a little bit. Well, you know

435
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: what what I was doing that was dumb. I need

436
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Speaker 1: to do this now. That's growth, that's maturity, and it's

437
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to just do that without being forced into that.

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Speaker 1: Definitely as a younger guy. Maybe as you get older,

439
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind you start thinking, you've

440
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Speaker 1: just been through more experiences and you know, but Cam

441
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: was forced to look in the mirror. Cam was forced

442
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: to listen to you don't have a you don't have

443
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Speaker 1: a job offer, and when I put a chip on

444
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: your shoulder and you're talented, like the sky's the limit.

445
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: Now again, health is a huge part of this, and

446
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume he's gonna be healthy, which if he's not,

447
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. Like back what we said about

448
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Speaker 1: Belichick's why I didn't pay him any money. But if

449
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Speaker 1: he is, you better watch out. Because when you get

450
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Speaker 1: talented guys historically in sports that still have something left

451
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Speaker 1: and they have kind of been kicked to the curb,

452
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Speaker 1: it's kind of when they come back and have just

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Speaker 1: enormous seasons kind of have an fuc And I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shocked if Cam just brings the fury this fall

455
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Speaker 1: with Belichick. Okay, let's do something here with Cam Newton

456
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Speaker 1: and this whole situation. And I thought, I just I

457
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Speaker 1: listed four teams slash a player who could be the

458
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Speaker 1: biggest loser in this entire Cam situation. If it goes well,

459
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Speaker 1: Like if Cam goes New England and New England is

460
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Speaker 1: good and Cam is good, there is gonna be some

461
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Speaker 1: collateral damage. Some people are going to look bad. So

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Speaker 1: I ranked them three teams and a player and not ness.

463
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Speaker 1: The player wouldn't necessarily look bad, but there's some people

464
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Speaker 1: with some stuff on the line here. Now, this at

465
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Speaker 1: number four potential loser in the Cam Newton situation might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a stretch. They did just

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Speaker 1: draft to a Tonka Valoa. But Miami Dolphins talk about

468
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Speaker 1: a team that just has no buzz. No team gets

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Speaker 1: more credit for going four and twelve in league history

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Speaker 1: than Miami. To his at this hip, he might not

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Speaker 1: be able to play this year. We've watched Ryan Fitzpatrick

472
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Speaker 1: played for a decade. I get it as Wonderlick scores

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Speaker 1: high and he's got a long beard. But if you

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Speaker 1: told me that Cam Newton was starting for the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins the SEC country, he'd just be a big deal

476
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Speaker 1: down there in the South. It would just add some

477
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Speaker 1: juice as a you know, a quote unquote bridge for

478
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Speaker 1: Tah but just a reason that you'd have to watch

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, like if twas not starting. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think at this point we know, I'm just not watching

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick played football not doing it, especially because like

482
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Speaker 1: I said, there they went four and twelve, we act

483
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Speaker 1: like they won ten games and Brian floores the next

484
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: Belichick four and twelve. So uh, I think Miami, if

485
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Speaker 1: you could have signed him for really cheap, get rid

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Speaker 1: of Fitzpatrick. Have Cam have to a little Auburn Alabama,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, connection Now, if tour Us starts, this is

488
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Speaker 1: a non starter and this team shouldn't have been in here.

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Speaker 1: Number three. Tampa had to do what they did. They

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Speaker 1: got rid of Jamis for Tom Brady, easiest decision ever.

491
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady did not have to leave Belichick. Now, we

492
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Speaker 1: all understand that everything has a shelf life, except hopefully

493
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: like perfect marriages. But most companies don't stay on top forever.

494
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Speaker 1: Most players, you know, get old, Even coaches lose their juice.

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Speaker 1: Hew Andy Reid was fired in Philadelphia like Belichick was

496
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Speaker 1: fired once upon a time. You know, we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: how long Belichick now can last without Tom. So I

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Speaker 1: I get it, like people have to go their separate ways,

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Speaker 1: But there is a chance that this Tampa thing does

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Speaker 1: not work out that well for Tom. Now, in theory,

501
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Speaker 1: I think it should. They got wide receivers, they got

502
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Speaker 1: a sweet offensive coach, uh, they got Todd Bowles. The

503
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Speaker 1: defense should be a lot better. But there's still a

504
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Speaker 1: lot of unknowns because of Corona. There was no practice.

505
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Speaker 1: Now Tom practice, But I'm talking Arians and Tom that

506
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: we know about that have been installing this offense. Bruce

507
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Speaker 1: Arians has run a lot different offense than Tom has

508
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Speaker 1: run this last decade. One throws bombs, the other guy

509
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of checks it down and picks you apart that

510
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: they're just offensive. Philosophy is a little different at this

511
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Speaker 1: point in time. So just the thing they could mash

512
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: pretty big question. I know that Josh, Bill and Tom

513
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: are on the same page at least try to be.

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Speaker 1: So just if this does not go well for Tom

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Speaker 1: and Tampa which and I'm included just chocking it up

516
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Speaker 1: as a playoff team, who knows. I just it's if

517
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Speaker 1: this was gonna be a year that it was gonna

518
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Speaker 1: look weird, this would be the year. And if Belichick's

519
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs with Cam Newton and Tom Brady is

520
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: not in the playoffs with Tampa Bay. You know, you talk,

521
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: we talk about listen, whether it's fair or not. We're

522
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna judge these two individuals this season, Belichick and Brady.

523
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: Who's winning, who's losing, who's kicking ass, who's struggling. It's

524
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a talking point on this show with your

525
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: friends everywhere. It's just coming up because you could beat

526
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Speaker 1: someone that barely knows anything about the NFL. They know

527
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Speaker 1: Belichick and they know Tom. So those two people are

528
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Speaker 1: interlocked for life, even though they've now separated and they're

529
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: gonna be judged separate. So Tom the success New England

530
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Speaker 1: has with Cam or Hell Stidham, who knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Cam's not even a lock, but definitely if this thing

532
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: goes well with Cam and they're able to make him

533
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: to kill Harry look good and Sony, Michelle and Tom

534
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: can't make these guys look good, which is possible, we're

535
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: just riding in Stone. He's gonna be a star. You

536
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: never know, Uh, Tom, you know I could be a

537
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: loser in this whole situation. Number two, the I want

538
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: to call him the Sandio Chargers, but they go by

539
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. It's pretty simple. In my view,

540
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is a better player in Tyrod Taylor now.

541
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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, the Chargers brass tells me NonStop, Tyrod Taylor,

542
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod Taylor. Tyrod Taylor's fine. He's had a

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Speaker 1: couple of years where he started started on that Bill's

544
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: playoff team. He's an athletic guy. I remember when I

545
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: first got into scouting watching him when he was on

546
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think he was like a fourth fifth

547
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: round pick. I was like, I really liked him. I

548
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: remember giving him a good grade. He went on to

549
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: win the backup job, and he's had a long career.

550
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: He has exceeded expectations. But in my mind, he's a

551
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: really good backup, not a starting quarterback. Now he's not

552
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: a lot to be a starter. They don't know how

553
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's gonna look. But here's what you could have done.

554
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: You could have signed Cam for really cheap, got rid

555
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: of tie Rod and had Justin Herbert. And there's a

556
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: business element with the Chargers. They're irrelevant in l A.

557
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: They're kind of irrelevant in the NFL, but definitely in

558
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Speaker 1: l A. They don't sell any tickets. No one talks

559
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: about him in the town. I've lived in California my

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Speaker 1: whole life. At least with the Charges when they had

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Speaker 1: a home San Diego, it resonated with those people where

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Speaker 1: I went to school at cal Poly, A lot of

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Speaker 1: people from San Diego went. They had a passionate fan base.

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Speaker 1: You say there weren't that many of them. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're definitely not going to l A. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: last three years in the little home Depot center, no

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Speaker 1: one shows up Cam moves the needle. Cam would have

568
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: been a big deal. Cam is good enough to play

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. He's not good enough to play for you. Now,

570
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Speaker 1: I get it. If Justin Herbert starting week one, it

571
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: won't matter in this conversation should never have happened. But

572
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Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert red churse this year and they play

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Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor or maybe they go through, you know, potentially,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a rough start like three and five

575
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Speaker 1: with with Tyrod Taylor as their quarterback and Cam's having

576
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Speaker 1: success in New England, Like what were the Charges doing?

577
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: They got an elite defense, they got sweet players everywhere

578
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: on offense, they just need a quarterback and there's pressure

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Speaker 1: on them whoever their quarterback is. But especially if as

580
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, he's gotta play well. If Cam Newton's playing

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Speaker 1: well for the New England Patriots and then number one,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand for the life of me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it. You want to hit restart and reset

584
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: whenever you come in culture all that you know, bs,

585
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: But here's a reality. Cam Newton was on a year

586
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Speaker 1: to year contract. If it didn't go well, you get

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Speaker 1: rid of them. And I've seen examples when Jim Harbaugh

588
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: showed up to the forty niners. He didn't tell Alex

589
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Smith kick rocks, I'll bring him my own guy. He

590
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Speaker 1: kept him, and it turns out you one with them now.

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Ultimately he replaced him. Chip Kelly showed up after and

592
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: he got fired in Philly. Do you tell Michael Vick

593
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: to leave? No, Michael Vick was a starting quarterback. Now

594
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: we got injured and stuff happened, but he gave it

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00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: a try. What was the rush for Matt Rule to

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Speaker 1: get rid of Cam Newton? Now, I'd get it if

597
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: you went well, John. They traded for Deshaun Watson, they

598
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: drafted Kyler Murray, they made some miraculous trade for Russell Wilson.

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00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, I would have cut Cam. Two.

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Speaker 1: Know who they signed Teddy Bridgewater. Come on, guys, I

601
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Speaker 1: like Teddy solid back up. I mean he's gonna be

602
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: a starting court. You have thirty three million dollars Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: I would take my chances with a year Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: with Cam Newton. Uh if I was them, and the

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00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: way they handled it, they're like thanks for the great career.

606
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: On Twitter, it's like, guys, you haven't cut him yet.

607
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I get temper and Matt Rule wanted to move on desperately,

608
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: but it could come back and buy him in the

609
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: ask their teams are gonna be that good this year.

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00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater benefited a lot last year from playing on

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Speaker 1: the Saints a loaded offense. I mean, one of the

612
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: brightest offensive minds we've ever seen in Sean Payton. I

613
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: like Joe Brady. I'm impressed with the story went from

614
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: grunt to a million dollar man overnight. But to think

615
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: that he's just gonna take the NFL by storm with

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00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is pretty crazy to me. Now. I get

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00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: they've worked together and they have a connection from when

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: he was in with the Saints, but man, I would

619
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Speaker 1: have taken my chances just Cam Newton is on a

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00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: year to your contract. If he's bad, you just move

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Speaker 1: on next year and you cut him. What what was

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00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: the rush to get rid of him? Now if they

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Speaker 1: had information he shot and maybe he is, but he's

624
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: moving around pretty well in these Instagram videos. Uh. I

625
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know that there's pressure on Carolina who's not gonna

626
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: be any good that there's a chance that Teddy Bridgewater

627
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: does not look anything like he looked last year with

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Speaker 1: the Saints and Cam Newton is looking good, and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: you could have just had Cam Newton. You had Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton the whole time. Why did you get rid of him?

631
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Speaker 1: Why were you so quick to push him out the door?

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Speaker 1: And I think, Carolina, when the dust settles, could look

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Speaker 1: really bad. Okay, let's dive into something I noticed, which

634
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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a red flag in a

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00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: situation that's not ideal that's brewing in Las Vegas now.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine most people listening in some former fashion

637
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: financially have been impacted by Corona. Whether you're in the

638
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: advertising business, whether you're in the you know, the medical field,

639
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: whatever business you're in, you have either taken a hit,

640
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: been forced to change stuff around, or know that a

641
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: hit is coming. I think it's fair to say that

642
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: every industry has been impacted in some former fashion, and

643
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: the ones that have not been yet impacted negatively probably

644
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: eventually will. It's kind of unavoidable. That's what happens with

645
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: a shutdown. There were no easy answers for this. I

646
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: was technically, I I guess, was against the notion of

647
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: just shutting it down forever. At first, you tell me

648
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna die. I'm pro shutdown. Then the numbers changed,

649
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: and I think there are ways to kind of meet

650
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: in the middle. Should we have opened immediately now, I

651
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: mean my state didn't help. My state has been pretty unaffected.

652
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: But that's another conversation about how we should have approached it.

653
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: But the reality is we approached it the way we did,

654
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: and it has consequences, and it's gonna have consequences in

655
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: football because I think if you pulled every sports fan,

656
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: every fan of the NFL, and you said, do you

657
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: think there will be fans in the stands this fall?

658
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I think most of us, it's all educated because information

659
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: changes on a daily basis. I got no clue what's

660
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen tomorrow, let alone next week, let alone next month,

661
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: let alone three months. None neither do you. That's the

662
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: crazy part about this time. We we none of us

663
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. I think we'd all say yeah,

664
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I I doubt there's fans in stadiums now. For example,

665
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the Niners, the Cowboy Seattle, Kansas City, Philly. I mean,

666
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: whoever your team is probably been making a lot of

667
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: money at their stadium for the last decade. Why, because

668
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: the NFL has crushed it. Um, they've just made a

669
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of money. And any team that's got a new

670
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: stadium in the last decade or decade and a half,

671
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: the sweet money, the PSL money, it's been a little

672
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: thing that we like to call a cash count. So, yeah,

673
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna suck this fault that you're not gonna make

674
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: any money from your season tickets. But you've made so

675
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: much money in sponsorship deals. If you're just don't have

676
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: a bumbling idiot running your franchise, you have cash statched

677
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: away the media money has been paying for your players

678
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: and coaches forever. That you can handle. It is an ideal.

679
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: No does anyone once they start making more money ever

680
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: want to make less money. Of course not. But sometimes

681
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: when coronavirus hits that no one saw coming, you don't

682
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: have a choice. Well, there are three teams that moved

683
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: and two or in l A. Well, luckily for the

684
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: l A situation, which is an overpriced disaster. Right now,

685
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: it's one guy spending all the money, Stan Croncky, and

686
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: even the league gave him a little extra money because

687
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: he's literally cutting every check. And luckily because he stand cronkey,

688
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: and he married a woman who was an heiress to

689
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: the Walmart franchise. He has an unlimited amount of cash.

690
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: He has more money I would imagine, I'm not even

691
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: bullshitting you, in probably a safe than Mark Davis has

692
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: ever had in a bank account. So the Raiders who

693
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: also moved, well, a big reason they moved, and listen.

694
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: I was someone who thought that the Raiders should have

695
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: stayed in Oakland, but there were a couple of things

696
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Mark Davis couldn't have financed and been able to own

697
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: the team if they stayed here, he would have had

698
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: to let someone buy in or the league force him out.

699
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: And that wasn't gonna play. That wasn't gonna happen. He

700
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: didn't have the business acumen in this area, despite there

701
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: being an unlimited amount of cash, especially over the last

702
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: ten years of historic economic growth in northern California and

703
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley. Mark Davis in the ray Just brand for

704
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: whatever reason, a huge reason of their own. They've never

705
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: marketed right, did not really resonate with people here, and

706
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: they were always tired of be in second fiddle. So

707
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: I understood them wanting to get out. I get where

708
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to get in l A. And I get

709
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: why they went to Vegas, and a big reason they

710
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: went to Vegas. Literally everything's paid for. The city is

711
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: paying for it all with attacks based on the casinos. Well,

712
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: part of the pandemics casinos have been shut down. So

713
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: the money that the Vegas is giving them, you know,

714
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. It was gonna be a big

715
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: deal whether Corona never hit. They were just giving the

716
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: Raiders a lot of money. Well, when someone gives you

717
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money, they expect things to happen. And

718
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: I know the Raiders get on their high horse and

719
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: talk about how fast that they sold out. Here's the thing.

720
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: If you did a legit breakdown and who bought the

721
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: tickets for the Raider stadium, I would imagine and I

722
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: would venture to guess a large percentage of the tickets,

723
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: especially the good ones, especially the sweets or casino bought corporation.

724
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: And that's good thing, you know. I mean, I know

725
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: when when Levis opened for the forty niners, basically every

726
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: suite that was sold, we're all corporations. That's what you want.

727
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: Corporations have money. And when he sells suites at two

728
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: to three to four hundred thousand dollars a season. You know,

729
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: John middlecoff ain't just cutting you a three hundred thousand

730
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: dollar check for a suite of forty people. Like, no

731
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: individuals really do that. It's all corporations, so the Vegas

732
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: who are their main corporations, all the casinos. Who who's

733
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna want to send people there as gifts? The casinos?

734
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: It makes sense. Well, now, Mark Davis, and here's what

735
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: he said this weekend, because they're starting to be pushed

736
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: back from the league, like, listen, we'll probably we might

737
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: not have fans. And if we don't have fans, you

738
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: can sell advertising on the bottom eight rows, which makes

739
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: sense to make your money back. Why. I talk to

740
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: a president of the team, a president of a team

741
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: with another team, not the Raiders, and he said, if

742
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: we do that, we would probably just utilize the sponsors

743
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: that we already have. Right. Yeah, I talked about this

744
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: last week, which makes sense. Mark Davis wants no part

745
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: of that, right because he is very indebted to these

746
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: people that are paying him, also the casinos, which are

747
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: basically just reinvesting the money, because he has to use

748
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: that money to pay back the loan that he took

749
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: back out to move Slash that he owes the league

750
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: because you have to pay a relocation fee and Mark

751
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: Davis does not have any money. He has no other

752
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: side businesses the raiders what I was told, for example,

753
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: like Levi Stadium, they pay the Niners million dollars a year.

754
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: Mark Davis the last twenty years have played in the stadium,

755
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: an absolute dump in the college. It wasn't named anything.

756
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: He didn't have any naming rights. They didn't have any

757
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: they didn't have any sponsorship rights inside. They didn't make

758
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: any money like all the like every single person listening

759
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: of another team they were generating or every Mark never did.

760
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: That's why he was so adamant that they had to

761
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: get a new stadium. He wasn't wrong that way. Part

762
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: of getting new stadium when you don't have any money, though,

763
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: you're depending on all these other people's money. Well, when

764
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: other people are paying for stuff, you ultimately owe them.

765
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: And he's got to pay people back. And right now

766
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: he's not happy because here's what Mark Davis said. I

767
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: can't imagine telling one fan they can attend the opening

768
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: game of our inaugural season in Las Vegas, let alone

769
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: telling fans their seats are gone for the entire season.

770
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Those seats in the front row are some of the

771
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: most ardent fans, including members of the Fame black Hole.

772
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: You think I want to sell advertising on their seats.

773
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: Then he also got mad because they really pushed back

774
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: that they want to be able to have fans even

775
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: if the league has a no fan rule. He's like,

776
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Vegas will have its own rules. I want to be

777
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: able to do whatever, all local rules. So here's Davis said,

778
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: creativity will be necessary. One of our executives came up,

779
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: came up with a solution, but the league shot it

780
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: down dismissively. But we are not ready to give up yet.

781
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: We will do everything we can to let our fans

782
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: be able to attend every game this season. Here's the problem, Mark,

783
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: It's out of your control. And I get why he's

784
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: freaking out. And if I was in issues, I'd have

785
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety and I would be threatening the league,

786
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna have fans here anyway, because he

787
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: owes too much cash and without allowing those people to

788
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: come now, he might not have to give the PSL

789
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: money back for the year, but he will not be

790
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: able to charge tickets, and he will not be able

791
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to charge sweets. Well, if they have a hundred sweets

792
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: or fifty sweets, do the math. You know, six figures

793
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: of sweet that was a lot of money, and that

794
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: was money that was immediate. He doesn't need that money

795
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: to pay Derek Carror, John Gruden. He needs that money

796
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: to pay the loans back, to pay the league. Because

797
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: while the Las Vegas is putting up seven fifty million

798
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: and the league gave him some cash, he was putting

799
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: up his own cash, whatever he had. But that cash

800
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: was basically just gonna be the cash that was coming

801
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: in from the stadium. So now, unlike Stan Crokey, which

802
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: might get no revenue coming in, or Joe Lacol for

803
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: example with the Warriors new stadium with no revenue coming in,

804
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: He's made so much money the last several years. Joe

805
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: has or Crocky has made so much money in his life.

806
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: He does have the cash to keep the thing afloat.

807
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: Mark does not. How do you take out a loan

808
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: on a loan of money you need to pay back.

809
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: It gets really complicated, and the Raiders have constantly been,

810
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, in the Davis family run area of taking

811
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: loans on loans, on loans to pay back other loans. Well,

812
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: eventually you kind of get cut off. And in times

813
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: like this, listen, I would imagine many of you know

814
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to business loans like it starts to

815
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: get a little sketchy when you deal with the banks

816
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: in these times, because they don't know what the future

817
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: is gonna hold, They don't know how the economy is

818
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back. No one knows. It's a scary time

819
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: that way. I say it all the time. People in

820
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: my life are scared financially. I don't know one person

821
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: who's got Corona. I don't know one, not one. I've

822
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: talked to like ten people. They don't know any people.

823
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm not claiming it's a hoax or anything, but everyone

824
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: I know is freaked out about Corona and it's impact

825
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: on their business and on their job. Are Am I

826
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna be able to lose my job? Am I gonna

827
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: be able to pay my mortgage? Is the housing market

828
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna crumble? And then I'm gonna be over my head

829
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: in my on my house. Those are the worries of

830
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: people that I know. I'm not anti Corona, I'm not.

831
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I think the worries and you

832
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: see Mark Davis right now. Mark Davis is not worried

833
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: about Corona. He's worried about Corona's impact on his ability

834
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: to make money in the stadium, which he owes a

835
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: lot of money up. And I don't blame him that way.

836
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: But this is the problem when you let because I

837
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: always say this, I have a couple of friends that

838
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: run just really successful businesses and they always tell you,

839
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: like I'd be like, God, your business is full proof,

840
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: you can't fail. He's like, no, you can always fail.

841
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: Something can happen that's out of your control. No one

842
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: I would have said, casinos are full proof. Then Corona

843
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: hit and casinos got crushed, got destroyed. I mean they

844
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: shut down to Las Vegas. If I would have said, John,

845
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: what do you think it would take to shut down

846
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: Las Vegas? I would have been terrorist attack, some sort

847
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: of war, a meteor strike. You know, I never in

848
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: a million years would have thought like some virus. I

849
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't have believe that. I mean, like, God, they've figured

850
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: out they get people in the hospital or whatever. But

851
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: it happened and shut them down. And now starting to

852
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: look like, yeah, Mark, you're not gonna have any fans

853
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: in the league. One thing they've been doing is it's

854
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: uniform right. If this team has to do it, then

855
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: you have to do it. If this team is allowed

856
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: to do this, then you gotta do it. Because remember

857
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: the Saints, We're gonna have their draft at the brewery.

858
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna have everyone there. And then league said, nope,

859
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: everyone's gotta be doing it from home. And you can't

860
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: all be at the same home. You all have to

861
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: be at your own homes. So if there's no fans,

862
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: um it won't. I mean, it's not a good thing

863
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: for any team in the league, but it is gonna

864
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: have major, major economic ripple effect to the Vegas Raiders. Okay,

865
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: let's get to the Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff

866
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Instagram follow me as well. I'd love a I'd love

867
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: a good follow. I interact with people on instant It's

868
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: a much happier place than Twitter, Twitter handle same thing.

869
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: But I just I really just go to Twitter and

870
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: now to tweet out my podcast or occasionally give an

871
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: opinion or whatever. But I like Instagram much more so.

872
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Fire on there and uh, fire me a d M.

873
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: And this is where we answer your d M on

874
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the Middle coff mail back from Ronnie. I've been listening

875
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: to your podcasts for a year and I love it

876
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So with regards the coronavirus in the NFL,

877
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: why don't they look into a herd immunity of herd

878
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: immunity approach. I get that the p A would probably

879
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: push back, but they have plenty of time before the

880
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: season starts. There are top tier athletes, so the majority

881
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be affected. What if they got infected on purpose

882
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: with team physicians watching them closely, then they wouldn't have

883
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: to worry about it much during the season because they

884
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: have the antibodies. Thoughts. I've heard people saying that they

885
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: think Clemson is getting it on purpose in some of

886
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: these SEC schools. It would be hard to convince a

887
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: professional athlete to do that, even if it is the

888
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: right move. And I also think there is just so

889
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: much unknown. I was reading something the other day and

890
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I really I I'm not trying to sound like ignorant

891
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: or not trying to say educated on this, but I'm

892
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: at the point I don't read every article that I

893
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: get on my timeline about coronavirus anymore. Because I don't

894
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: know what to believe. I did see something that people

895
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: thought that it wasn't a one lock that you couldn't

896
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: reget it because I assumed like this girl I'm dating,

897
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: I think she got it, and clearly my immunity was

898
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: just so badass I didn't get it. But I feel

899
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: like I have the antibodies again, assuming that I haven't

900
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: got tested. But like I said, I don't even know

901
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: anyone that got it. Uh, so I I'm not. I

902
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I got it, maybe I didn't. I

903
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: think it's been here in California since like the fall.

904
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I know so at the only Times reported that. But

905
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I just I just don't think that's a possibility. I don't.

906
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you're crazy for throwing that out there.

907
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, just it's not an option, even though

908
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: it is worth talking about. The NFL just wouldn't do it.

909
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't even know how would you infect someone with coronavirus.

910
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: You just get people with coronavirus and you get them

911
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: around it. Obviously there were people around on certain teams.

912
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: I would imagine working out with other people that have it.

913
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think the toughest part is

914
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: gonna be in the fall as the older coaches, you know,

915
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: they're just not every coach is young. How much does

916
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: a new coach affect the play playbook? Do they come

917
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: in with something completely new or build off what was

918
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: previously used? For example, the Cowboys with McCarthy keep up

919
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: the good work. I think every coach is different, you know.

920
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: I think certain coaches have their playbook. Like you hired

921
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, you're get you know what you're getting right.

922
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I think a guy like Andy Reid, you know, I

923
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: think he could do whatever he wants right, He'll build

924
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: it around the player, you know, Kyle, the Shanahan, McVeigh,

925
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Lafleur like they run a specific offense. I think Pete Carroll,

926
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, desires to have a specific, specific offense. I

927
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: think when you think you know Sean Payton will I

928
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: would imagine his offense will look a lot different without

929
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you know. I bet one thing with coaches,

930
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: they're always installing new place, you know, and I think

931
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: the spread concepts are really big. But I think for

932
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: the most part, on offense, you have a base and

933
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: these guys can just adapt, you know, and run different

934
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: type stuff depending on what type player they have now

935
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: defensively typically again Belichick's and outlier three four or for

936
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: three defensive coach, right, a guy that likes blitzing a lot,

937
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: or a guy like Fangio that doesn't uh that you

938
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: usually get a new playbook. Yeah, I guess the short

939
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: way around it, you're you're getting a new playbook. I

940
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: think sometimes a coach might develop the playbook around his players,

941
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: because ideally, like if you're a coach, you should on

942
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: whatever side of the ball and know how to coach everything.

943
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: But that clearly isn't the case. I listened from Barcelona

944
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: of the big four Major League Baseball, NFL, NHL, NBA

945
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: and including UFC, MLS, n C Double A football, and

946
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: n C Double A basketball in ten years, how would

947
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: you rate their popularity among sports fans? Feel free to

948
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: add any sports I missed. They could crack the top

949
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: ten again. Thanks for the podcast, Okay, I appreciate it.

950
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: I would say, with gambling, fantasy foot ball, just how

951
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: fun football is I I have I'm hard pressed to

952
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: see football not stay on top. Uh. I think MLS

953
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: could really really come. Baseball and basketball just have such

954
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: a head start. They're still gonna be really big, so

955
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: I'd go football. Uh. I think we're gonna learn a

956
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: lot during this when baseball and basketball come back. One

957
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: of my theories I think baseball is gonna be more

958
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: popular than basketball, as crazy as that sounds, even though

959
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: basketball starting, you know, in the playoffs. I just think

960
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna look weird in this little gym. I can

961
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: see baseball having a big year, a bunch of urgency,

962
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: but baseball is much slower, So I'd probably go NBA baseball.

963
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: You know, n C double A football is technically our

964
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: second biggest sport, so you would just go football in general.

965
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Then I would go basketball, Baseball, MLS, n C double

966
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: A basketball is dying. You know, the G League now

967
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: runs a team. All these kids are going overseas, Like,

968
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if NC double A basketball that's a sport.

969
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: If that was a stock, i'd short the hell out

970
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know if it's gonna be around now.

971
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm a golfer. I love the PGA Tour. But a

972
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: huge reason the PGA Tour is really famous or I

973
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: mean really popular and just does big numbers, it's a

974
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: guy named Tiger Woods. He's forty four years old. He said,

975
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: bad backs, bad knee. Like I love watching the tour.

976
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: I know not everyone does now. I know most people

977
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: watch Tiger, but when he goes away, I don't know.

978
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't They don't really have a big star, so

979
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: that that would be in a little trouble. So I

980
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: would go football, n C double A football, basketball. I

981
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: didn't include NHL. I don't you know. I don't know.

982
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the NHL. I like, I like, uh

983
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: playoff hockey, But for me, it's not that big. Now.

984
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: When I lived in Philly, the Flyers were big. I

985
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: know they're big in New York. I know it's big

986
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: in Boston, you know, and it's big in Vegas, big

987
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: in Nashville. So I mean hockey is big too. That's hard.

988
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: I have to think about that one. That's that's a

989
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: tough question to just kind of add it. I'm curious

990
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: or take on if you think some college or pro

991
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: football programs intentionally want their players to get COVID nineteen

992
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: season is another question. I know they would never admit it,

993
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: but if the kids had the antibodies by the time

994
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: the season started, you would never have to worry about it.

995
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: In critical time of the season. Maybe you guys are

996
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: on some Yeah, if I find out if I'm the

997
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Mahomes gets the Corona right now, yeah, I'm

998
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: with you. I feel pretty good. Now. The original question

999
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: was about in you know, putting Corona in their bodies.

1000
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. But yeah, I don't think teams

1001
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: lose much sleep if they're twenty two year old gets Corona.

1002
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: These guys are going on record saying it's not phasing them.

1003
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: That's why these guys keep working out. They are not

1004
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: at risk when it comes to Corona. Now. The coaches are,

1005
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm with you. I think they're pro the

1006
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: antibodies for sure. Someone that no one is talking about,

1007
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: but I feel as prime for a big season is

1008
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller and Tampa Bay. I know they have Evans

1009
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: and Godwin and Howard and Break, but he has the

1010
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: skill set that works with TV twelve thoughts. It's you know,

1011
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: sometimes if you close your eyes, you go is Tom

1012
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans just gonna kill it? You're like, I

1013
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: love Mike Evans. He's the top five or six wide

1014
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: receiver in the league, But like, is that the guy

1015
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: guy Tom kills it with, and then even Godwin. When's

1016
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: the last time Tom had a Godwin? And I love

1017
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: god when I played him last year on Daily Fantasy

1018
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: all the time. Because he can play in the slot,

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: he can play outside, he's longer than you think, he

1020
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: can run good after the catch. I mean, he's a baller.

1021
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: You know, Tom does thrive with tight ends, so you'd

1022
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: think that Howard and Bright and obviously Gron coming back.

1023
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: But Scottie Miller, you know, the slot receiver. Just just

1024
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: when does does Bruce Harrians used a slot receiver? I

1025
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: guess he put Larry Fitzgerald in the slot when he

1026
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: got to Arizona. It was something that he told Larry

1027
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: he thought would help his career, moved him the slot.

1028
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: And it does. It did because larry speed had diminished

1029
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: and Larry's it really gets a slot receiver. But I

1030
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: think last year again just watching Tampa from my cow couch,

1031
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: he'll put Godwin in the slot. Were one of the

1032
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: tight ends in the slot. Now, you're right, Tom has

1033
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: historically like the Welker, like day Edelman. But what if

1034
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: the coach wants to do something a little different. I

1035
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: have to look up Scotty Miller. I don't know that

1036
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: much about him, to be honest with you. I just

1037
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: assumed when his name was Scotty Miller, he'd be a

1038
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: slot receiver. Yeah, a little white guy five eleven from

1039
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: Bowling Green six round pick last year, hit thirteen catches. Yeah,

1040
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Tom's gotta like him. If Tom likes him,

1041
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: they definitely have a shot. Would love to get your

1042
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: take on Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills this year,

1043
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: especially after the acquisition of Stefan dis Yeah. I think

1044
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: there's no excuse before Cam Newton for them not to

1045
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: win the division. Their defense is fantastic. Sean McDermott's a

1046
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: big time coach. You had Stefan Digs. They already could

1047
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: run the ball. You know, it's just gonna come down

1048
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen being more accurate deep. And I talked

1049
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott at the combine and he said, last year

1050
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: everyone basically shipped on him short and intermediate. Josh came

1051
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: back and was good short and intermediate. This year he's

1052
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: like everyone said, he's bad deep. Now he's just gotta

1053
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: come back and improve. He has a big time deep

1054
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: wide receiver in Digs who's a stud. Uh, just gotta

1055
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: get it done. It's really just that simple. So I'm

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00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: a big believer in Josh Allen's talent. Now he's got

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00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: to be more accurate and that's just something that you know.

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00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I fall him on Instagram. He seems like a high

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: level guy. He works out all the time with Sam Donald,

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: like really high level kid. Sean McDermott does not like

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Slappy's that's why he likes Josh Allen. But it's just eventually,

1062
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: like whether you're a high character guy and you have

1063
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: all these physical attributes, you eventually's got to hit like

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00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: the twenty yard pass right. That's what Mahomes does, or

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does Rogers or even Jimmy Garoppolo last year. Like,

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00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: you just gotta hit some deep passes in big games.

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: That's what Josh Allen hasn't been able to do. Now

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00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: I think he'll be able to do it. We'll see.

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: What's your assessment of the Steelers wide receivers. Do you

1070
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: drat a down year last year, but I expect him

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00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: to bounce back. James Washington Deonte Johnson both showed flashes,

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00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: but subpart quarterbacks throwing at them. I'm excited about them,

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: but I fear over optimistic. Set me straight. Well, I'm

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00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: a big Juju fan, and I remember texting someone with

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: the Niners. I'm like, you guys should take him. I'm like,

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00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's too slow. And then and

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00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: then he got drafted late in the second round. I

1078
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: remember texting the guy back and like, why why did

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00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: he fall this far? He's like, no, that's just where

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: he's supposed to go. I'm like, listen, you know I

1081
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: used to be a scout and not to toot my

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00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: own horn. I I was pretty good, you know. I

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00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: could hang with Veach and Louis and all these guys.

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00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. And I don't pretend

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: to study the game quite like I did back then.

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00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: But I still watch college football very closely, partly because

1087
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: I have no life and I love sitting all day

1088
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: and watching Saturday, and because I live on the West Coast,

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00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I watched a lot of Pack twelve football, and

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Juju, and I knew he

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00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: was gonna be good. I get he didn't win the

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: forty that well, but he's a physical player and he's

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: tough so if you can't run and he can run.

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00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, if you're not like

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: a Blazer, you have to be a physical player, like

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: an Ankum Bolden type, you know, like Keenan Allen. And

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00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what he's a physical, tough guy. I'm giving everyone

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: on the Steelers the past. Last year, you're playing with

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph. I can't judge you. When

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00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: Jujus has Ben, he's been good because he is good.

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00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: And the little dude I think is he's from Tulane

1102
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: or Toledo. Deonta Johnson. That guy can fly, that guy

1103
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: can scoot. So I like James Washington Oklahoma State. Now

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm not as bush on James Washington. I like Deonte

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00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: Johnson more and I just like Juju. Now is Juju one?

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Probably not. He's probably really good too. But if you've

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00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: got Deonte Johnson Juju and you've got like three or

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: four two's and you can always run the ball, they've

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: got James Conner and Ben's back, you'll be fine. Their

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00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: defense is good. It Ben plays sixteen games, Steelers are

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Big fan of the podcast, you should

1112
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: think about recording three three times a week. Anyway, I

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: can't up but ask your opinion of Uncle Colin stop

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: five armed talent list. To me, that has to be

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous list of all time. This is my

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: wife count Okay, uh well, I thought it was too

1117
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: And then Colin came back later that day on Twitter

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: and crossed it out and wrote most catchable balls. Because

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: if you just went top five armed talents in the league,

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Speaker 1: I could do this off top of my head. You know,

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00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Jared goffl like, those guys aren't armed talents,

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: but they do. If Colin probably misspoke most catchable ball.

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: Drew Brees throws the most catchable ball in the league.

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Jared Goff throws a very very catchable ball. When I

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Speaker 1: think armed talent, I think like a Roldis Chapman. I

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: think guy throwing howitzers right like Joe Flacco was an

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: armed talent. Duke could throw like a hundred fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: When I think armed town in the NFL forever it

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00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: was Rogers Roger, and I don't think Rogers quite is

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: powerful anymore. To me, it's Mahomes and Josh Allen and

1131
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz just jump off the page. I would say

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen probably just has the most pure armed talent

1133
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: in the league. You can just throw it from any

1134
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: position on a rope wherever. Now he doesn't know where

1135
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: it's going. That's part of the problem. That's where Mahomes

1136
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: probably doesn't quite throw it as hard as Josh Allen,

1137
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: but he's accurate. And then Carson is probably somewhere in

1138
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: the middle. Like Josh Allen can throw it a hose

1139
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's accurate, but he also can

1140
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: have inaccurate moments. That's why Mahomes just like the perfect

1141
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: combination of just accuracy, mobility and throwing babies. Forever it

1142
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: was Rogers. I just he's probably a little lower on

1143
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: that list. You know, most of the guys that have

1144
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: came in recently, the Donalds, the Bakers, the Lamars, like,

1145
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: they don't have big, big time arms. Matt Ryan not

1146
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: a big time arms. You'd say, Cam when he was

1147
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: younger had a hose. Now if his shoulders messed up,

1148
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: that's not quite the same. Dak No, Deshaun Watson, No,

1149
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, a sleeper just armed talent, A dude that

1150
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: can just fling the pill is Kyler Murray. Like that

1151
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: dude can sling it. I know he's a little short dude,

1152
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: but he can just row ropes. So if I had

1153
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: to do an unofficial top five armed talents in the League,

1154
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: I'd go Josh Allen, Mahomes, Wentz in any order you want,

1155
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, all three of those guys are

1156
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: just blue chip arms, Rogers and Kyler Murray. Colin always

1157
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: says the Jags are relevant, and who can really argue that?

1158
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: With Newton signing with the Pats, which makes sense for

1159
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: him in New England? Do you think the Jags could

1160
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: have benefited from a rock star persona like Newton, even

1161
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: if only for a year? For sure? And like I

1162
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: said earlier, I don't think it made that much sense

1163
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: for Cam to go there. Cam's brand and Cam's importance

1164
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: is bigger than the Jacks. So if I was Cam,

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even entertained them, wouldn't entertain them. Another two

1166
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: for here. I really love the pod, appreciate it created

1167
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: a Graham account so like a d M you which

1168
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: hurts my soul a little bit. Anyways, huge Colts fan,

1169
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: I needed ran for a second. It's a long ramper

1170
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it, though, I'm not sure why people

1171
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: are down on the co this year for starters the

1172
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: culture seven and nine after starting five and two beating

1173
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I add the defense as young, stellar on

1174
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: the line, linebacker positions. We had Rose and we added

1175
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: Buckner and blah blah blah. Okay, we clearly have the

1176
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: best offensive line in football with a great two headed

1177
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: monster and running back that would just playing fuck you up.

1178
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Hilton as a speedster if healthy as his campbell, Michael

1179
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Will be a good big body. You know

1180
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: your team well. Jacoby played bad, great guy, bad quarterback.

1181
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: He would not throw the ball further than fifteen yards.

1182
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: Look scared too when he did it. Anyways, I don't

1183
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: really know your question. I don't think you really have

1184
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: a question. So yeah, I just I'm with you. I

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: agree with everything he says. I think the Colts are

1186
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: a well run operation. They have really good players. If

1187
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: the dude they drafted from Wisconsin, Jonathan Taylor and Michael

1188
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Are good to me, the biggest question mark

1189
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: they have. Their defense is gonna be solid. Their offensive

1190
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: line is gonna be good. They're gonna be able to

1191
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: run the ball is Philip River shot. He was not

1192
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: good last year. He just I love Philip Rivers. I

1193
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: don't want Philip Rivers to be my friend. I find

1194
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers very You know, it's easy guy to root for.

1195
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: He just he just wasn't good. He honestly looked like

1196
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: a shot fighter, which isn't that crazy. He's thirty eight

1197
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: years old, he's got kids. Sometimes you're just done. It's normal.

1198
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: So if he's good, if he's a top ten quarterbacks,

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: cults are gonna be good. If he is what he

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: was last year with with the Chargers, they're in trouble.

1201
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just that simple. When the NFL plays this year,

1202
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: it seems inevitable that guys will test positive for Corona

1203
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: and have to miss time, probably two weeks. If a

1204
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: team has a group of guys test positive on top

1205
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: of a normal number of injuries during the season, then

1206
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: are they gonna have to make tough decisions on roster moves.

1207
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: I could see legit starters getting moved down and picked

1208
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: up by other teams instead of usually fringe players. I

1209
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: think the NFL needs to implement an i R designation

1210
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: for players that test positive about two weeks What are

1211
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on how the legal handle this. I think

1212
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: I ran either in Peter King's article maybe a couple

1213
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, or an article on MMQB that they're

1214
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna do that there is going to be a corona.

1215
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: I r Baseball. I I read baseball is doing that too.

1216
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: You know, usually have the disabled list, maybe it's the

1217
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: injured list. Now they changed it because of you know,

1218
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: the culture. You can't say disabled anymore. But they're gonna

1219
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: have a corona. You can go on the Corona list

1220
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: for fourteen days. The NFL is gonna like, if you

1221
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: are the Seattle Seahawks and DK Metcalf gets Corona, you

1222
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: don't have to cut DK Metcalf so you can sign

1223
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: another player. You can put DK Metcalf on the Corona list,

1224
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: so I would. I haven't maybe officially read that, but

1225
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: trust me, I've been around the league long enough. You

1226
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: are not going to have to cut starters, zero chance,

1227
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: none because of the corona none. So whoever your player

1228
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: is that gets corona, you will not need to get

1229
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: rid of them to make a roster spot. Which think

1230
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: about making the roster spots are gonna be a little

1231
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: complicated because if you're cutting a guy, You're gonna bring

1232
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: you guy in where you're gonna have to test that guy.

1233
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: What if that guy tests positive, then you can't use

1234
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: that guy. Then you gotta bring in another guy. And

1235
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: what if that guy you gotta quarantine him. Listen, I

1236
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I get stressed out just thinking about it. Uh, just

1237
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: because it's it's gonna be complicated. It's not gonna be

1238
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: an easy endeavor. I promise you that it's gonna be

1239
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: a big time challenge. But like I said, you ain't

1240
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: cutting a good player if you don't want to cut

1241
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: him because he has corona. I promise you that appreciate

1242
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Uh, have a good Fourth of July week

1243
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you on Friday. See you