1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: It's so nice to have you with us if you're 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: listening on the radio around the country. We've got a 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: lot to cover in the show and Center. Let's start 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: with the big story first, the airport chaos in theory 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: could be coming to an end. Is President Trump signs 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: an order an emergency declaration to pay the TSA agents. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Well, it is fantastic news. The TSA agents are going 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: to be paid. We should see the chaos at the 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: airport subside. I hope it subsides very quickly. As you 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: and I are recording this podcast. It is right now 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: two twenty three in the morning, DC time, late Thursday night, 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: early Friday nighting. 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 4: And the amazing thing. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: Let's just say that time again. This is your commitment, 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: by the way to the show. Let's say that time again. 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: This is a new record for us. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: It is two twenty three in the morning, DC time. No, 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: it's two twenty four DC time, late Thursday night, early 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Friday morning. And at this point I'm having to timestamp 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: this is We still do not know for certain what 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: the final resolution that this is going to be. We 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: think we know, but it could change. So right now, 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: the entire day they've been trying to negotiate a deal 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: with the Democrats, and the Democrats have repeatedly moved the goalposts. 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: And I will say where we ended up is actually 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: where I urged the Republican conference to be two weeks ago. 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, I stood up and I told my colleagues, 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: I said, And I talked about this on the podcast 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: as well, but I stood up and told my colleagues. 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: I said, listen, our Democrat colleagues are nuts. They have 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: lost their mind. They are captured by the radical left 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: wing in their base, and they are simply open border 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: radicals who hate Donald Trump. 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Now what does that mean? At that point, we'd had a. 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: Shutdown of DHS for a couple of weeks. We'd had 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: TSA agents who hadn't been paid, host guardsmen who hadn't 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: been paid, Secret Service officers who hadn't been paid, FEMA 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: officials who hadn't been paid, over two hundred thousand federal 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: workers at DHS who were not being paid. 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Promo code verdict. 85 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: All right, Sata, So let's get back to those core 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: points that you were about to mention. 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: Well, Number one, we have had four major terroris attacks 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: in the last three weeks, all four by radical Islamic terrorists. 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: The Department of Homeland Security exists to prevent terror attacks. 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: There's obviously military conflict in the in the Middle East, 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: the terror thread is heightened. And yet every Demo but one, 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: every Democrat but John Fetterman, has voted now eight times 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: to defund the entire Department of Homeland Security. The purpose 94 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: of the Department Homeland Security DHS was created in the 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: wake of nine to eleven to prepare for and prevent 96 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: terror attacks, and I think the Democrats would have left 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: it shut the entire year. They don't care. It was 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: the most reckless, irresponsible action we've ever seen. You look 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: at what was happening at the airports. The chaos at 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: the airports was out of control. And here's what I 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: told my colleagues. I said, in my view, the Democrats 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: in the Senate will never ever vote to fund ICE again. 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: They've just lost their minds. They are an open border party, 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: so they are willing to defund the border patrol and 105 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: defund ICE, and that's who they are. And I said, 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: there's not going to be any wearing them down on 107 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: this because they're going to be that today, they're going 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: to be that next week, they're going to be that 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: next month, they're going to be that next year. That 110 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: is where the Democrats are. They've gone to crazytown. And 111 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: so I told my colleagues, here's what we should do. 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: We should fund as much of DHS as the Democrats 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: are willing to do, and that probably is going to 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: mean pulling out ICE and maybe CBP customers. 115 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: And border patrol. 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: So we should fund it. We should fund TSA, we 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: should open up the airports, we should end the chaos. Now, 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: the immediate response to that will be the Democrats have 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: succeeded in defunding ICE. Well, no they haven't, because we're 120 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: the majority, damn it. So let's act like it the instant. 121 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: We do that, and we do that, we turn on 122 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: the lights on DHS, we get TSA agents paid again, 123 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: we start a reconciliation process. Now, as regular listeners of 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: this pod, no, reconciliation is the major exception to the 125 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: filibuster rule. And to ordinarily fund government you need sixty votes, 126 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: which means we need seven Democrats. That's how Democrats have 127 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: been able to force this shut down. 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 4: For forty two days. 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: However, reconciliation you only need fifty votes. And what I 130 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: argue to my colleagues, we had to take up reconciliation 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: and we ought to fund ICE and CBP, and I said, listen, 132 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: I don't think the Democrats will ever again fund ICE, 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: so in my view, we should fund them for ten years. 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: Ten years is the maximum budget window that you can 135 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: do under reconciliation. I said, let's put ten years of 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: funding in place right now, because these lunatics would say, 137 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: we're not arresting murderers anymore. We're not arresting gang bangers 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: or child rapists anymore. That's where their party is. And 139 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: then I said, we also need need to show them 140 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: that their obstructionism, their political terrorism, doesn't yield rewards. So 141 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren, I'm sure, is going to be running out 142 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: crowing that she succeeded in defunding ICE. So what I've 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: argued to my colleagues on reconciliation, we need up the 144 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: ice bot budget. What I suggested is increase it by 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: ten percent so that we can say to Elizabeth Warren 146 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: and the other craziest congratulations, your entire temper tantrum here's 147 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: what you accomplished. You increase the funding for ice by 148 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: ten percent, and we now have ten years of funding 149 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: locked in at this point, at now two thirty in 150 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: the morning, it appears that's exactly what we're doing. There 151 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: is a proposal that's circulating. It hasn't yet passed, but 152 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: it's expected to pass any moment that we'll do exactly 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: that fund all of DHS except for ICE and much 154 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: of CBP. That's what I suggested two weeks ago. We're 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: going to break down more of it in just a minute. 156 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: One of the worst in the country center has been 157 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: the airport. You and I fla out of all the time. 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: I actually drove because I knew it was going to 159 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: be faster than waiting in that line to head to 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: see pack. You actually drove today somewhere far away because 161 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: it was easier than dealing with the airports. I'm assuming 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: that's why you did it as well. And thank goodness, 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: now nearly five hundred TIS agents they had already quit 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: because they weren't being paid. That number was going to 165 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: get a lot higher if the President didn't act and 166 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: do what he just did. 167 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, look that's right. 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: Bush Airport in Houston had the worst delays in the country. 169 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: Bush and the Atlanta Airport were the two worst. At BUSH, 170 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: they were reporting call out rates for TSA agents of 171 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: forty percent and the lines were four four and a 172 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: half hours. Actually, my youngest daughter, Catherine was at Bush. 173 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: She was supposed to fly out to visit a friend. 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: It was over four hours in the line. She ended 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: up missing her flight and so she's going to try 176 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: to fly out again tomorrow. But she ended up not 177 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: getting out to see her friend and have a few 178 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: days hanging out with a good friend of hers. Look, 179 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: it was madness, but I will tell you, you know, this 180 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: is one of the things about doing this real time. 181 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: So it is now two thirty three in the morning, 182 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 3: and what has happened since this podcast started recording? 183 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: You know what's happened? 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: What's that the Senate just passed the funding. So I said, 185 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: I didn't know if we were going to fund it, 186 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: that it was circulating. What after we started the podcast? 187 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: The Senate passed it. They passed it by voice vote, 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: so that means there was one or two senators on 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: the floor by voice vote. Most of the senators have 190 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: gone to sleep, and so what it meant is nobody objected. 191 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: That means the funding is now out of the Senate. 192 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: It will go to the House. The House will take 193 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: it up and pass it. But it means we're going 194 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: to end up having Coast Guard getting their paychecks. We're 195 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: going to end up having FEMA getting their paychecks. We're 196 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: gonna end up having DHS getting their paychecks. We're going 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: to end up having Secret Service getting their paychecks. So 198 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: that's good. That funding is good. Now here's what the 199 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: Democrats insisted upon. It's actually amazing because a few days ago, 200 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. 201 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: Went on TV. 202 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: He went on Joe Scarber, and he said the Democrats 203 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: were willing to fund everything. 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: Except for ICE er O. Now what does that mean. 205 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement and are the agents 206 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: that go and find illegal aliens and arrest them and 207 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: deport them. And so that's about half of ICE, ICE's budget. 208 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: And so Schumer said, if we agreed to fund everything 209 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: but e ro O at ICE, the Democrats would be fine. 210 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: We ended up President Trump agreed to that deal, and 211 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: then Schumer and the Democrats all backed out and said no, no, 212 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: never mind, we didn't mean it. We understand we offered 213 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: that deal, we lied we can't do it, which delayed 214 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: things for several days because they just backed out of 215 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: the deal. 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: They had. 217 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: What they insisted upon. What just passed it pasted is 218 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: ICE is entirely defunded. So there's zero funding for ICE. Now, 219 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 3: the good news is ICE is not in fact defunded, 220 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: because when we passed the Reconciliation Bill last year, we 221 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: plussed up a ton of funding for ICE. We funded 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: ICE for the next three years because we anticipated that 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: the Democrats were going to be extreme and radical, and 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: so ICE is going to get. The irony is during 225 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: this shutdown, ICE was funded the whole time. The Democrats 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: were hurting everybody else because they were mad about ICE. 227 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: So but what just passed has zero funding for ICE, 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: which means not only do they insist they weren't going 229 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: to going to put funding for RO, they also didn't 230 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: put funding for Homeland Security Investigations HSI. 231 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: HSI, do you know what the responsibility of HSI is? 232 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: What's that? 233 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: Investigating transnational crime, terrorism, human trafficking, smuggling, cybercrime, financial fraud, 234 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 3: child exploitation. That's what HSI does. It's like out catching terrorists. 235 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: And every Democrat said we will not vote to fund 236 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: the folks catching terrorists and catching human traffickers. That's where 237 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats are. And then on customs and border patrol, 238 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: they insisted that the funding be reduced about six billion 239 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: dollars reduced from seventeen point seven billion to eleven billion. 240 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: So those were their demands. They ended up getting their demands, 241 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: but it is the most short term pyrrhic victory because 242 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: we're going to do a reconciliation. Takes about six weeks 243 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: to do a reconciliation, so it's not an immediate process 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: because you've got to have the House has to pass 245 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: a budget resolution, the Senate has to pass a budget resolution. 246 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: But we will get it done, and I believe what 247 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: will happen is we'll pass a ten year budget that 248 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: pluses up both of them. And I will say it 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: was exactly what I had urged two weeks ago. Is 250 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: where we ended up. Right now, now, I will tell you, 251 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 3: let's go back to what you said a minute ago, 252 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: which is the President signed the order saying he was 253 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: going to fund TSA. Do you know why he did 254 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: so and why there was an urgency to do so tonight? 255 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Why is that? 256 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: Well, let me bring you in what was happening. So 257 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: at lunch today on Thursday, the Democrats were saying they 258 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: may cut a deal. So we had a vote at 259 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: one third pm. That at our lunch we were like, 260 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: the Democrats may vote yes, we may have a deal, 261 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: and this might be done. It turned out we waited 262 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: all afternoon and the Democrats just couldn't vote yes. They 263 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: were not able to get. 264 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: To a vote. 265 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Shock. You're right, shot. 266 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: And here's the problem. We'd been seeing wait times increase 267 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: at airports all across the country. There were serious and 268 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: credible threats from the TSA Union that tomorrow Friday, there 269 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: was going to be a nationwide walkout, that all of 270 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: the TSA agents were going to stay home. I don't 271 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: know if that's right. I can tell you I talked 272 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: to the airlines and they believed it was right. And 273 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: if every TSA agent in the country stayed home on Friday, 274 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: every major airport. 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: In America would shut down. 276 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: And I will tell you I stood up to my 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: colleagues and said, we're blithering idiots. If we let every 278 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: major airport shut down, that would be a catastrophe. And 279 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: in terms of understanding, look, one of the things we 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: try to in verdict has take you inside how the 281 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: sausage is made. I spent much of yesterday talking with 282 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: senior White House officials and urging the President to do 283 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: what he did today, urging the President to issue in 284 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,359 Speaker 3: order and say, I'm funding TSA. The Democrats are petulant 285 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: children throwing a temper tantrum. You elected us to be 286 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: the adults, and I'm being the adult. Every TSA agent 287 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: is going to get his or her paycheck. They're back 288 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: on the jobs. The airports are open, and the Democrats 289 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: temper tantrum has failed. And this afternoon, as we didn't 290 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: know if there's going to be a deal or not, 291 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: that's exactly what the President did. I want to say, 292 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: mister President, thank you, congratulations. It was the right thing 293 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: to do. And today President Trump showed leadership while the 294 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: Democrats showed complete recklessness and irresponsibility. 295 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: A sacred season is approaching Passover when we remember God's deliverance, 296 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: the night he brought his people out of bondage and 297 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: into freedom. This year, many of God's people will observe 298 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: in darkness under the shadow of war across Israel. 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That's if CJ dot org. Let's 317 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: give an update on the latest of the Save Act 318 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer. The Democrats, they said they supported voter ID, 319 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: but then they immediately balked you guys and your amendment 320 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: to require it. 321 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Democrats. You know, do as I say, not 322 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: as I do. 323 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. So I'm an original sponsor of 324 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: the Save America Act. I've been helping lead the fight 325 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: to pass the Save America Act. We should be passing it. 326 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: The only way to get it passed is we need 327 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: to stand together and force the Democrats to do a 328 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: talking filibuster. Unfortunately, to do that, we need fifty Republicans 329 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: who are willing to stand and fight and be all 330 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: unified to get We don't have those votes right now. 331 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: I have been making that case for weeks on ends 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: to my colleagues. We're not there yet, and it is frustrating. 333 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: By the way, we did a podcast two weeks ago 334 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: we broke down the details of exactly how a talking 335 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: filibuster would work, how using the existing Senate rules to 336 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: force the Democrats to do like Jimmy Stewart and mister 337 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: Smith goes to Washington to force the Democrats to do 338 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: like I did when I filibustered for twenty one hours 339 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: talking continuously against Obamacare in twenty thirteen. 340 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: We have not done that yet, but I. 341 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: Will say so. The Save America Act has two major elements. 342 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 3: Number one, it requires people to show proof of American 343 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: citizenship to register to vote, a basic common sense step. 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: Number two, it requires photo ID to vote. Well, the 345 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: Democrats defense that they really hate provision one showing proof 346 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: of citizenship, and they argued, oh, some people can't do it. 347 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: Some people can't do it. It's nonsense, but that's what 348 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: they argued. And in the course of it, a whole 349 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: lot of them said, we're okay with photo ID, which 350 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: at some level is not surprising because photo ID. Eighty 351 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: three percent of Americans support photo ID to vote, eighty 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: one percent of Hispanic support photo ID to vote, eighty 353 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: one percent of Democrats support photo ID to vote. Seventy 354 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: five percent of African Americans support photo ID to vote. 355 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: It's overwhelmingly popular. So the Democrats all said they supported it, 356 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: but they didn't like the other elements of the Save Act. 357 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: So one thing we did this week is we said, okay, 358 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 3: we'll call your bluff and we put up just a 359 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: very simple bill that required photo ID to vote. It's 360 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: what they all said they supported. Now let me tell you. 361 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: I want to read you some quotes from Democrats. Here's 362 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer quote, Democrats support voter ID. Here's Chuck Schumer again. 363 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: Our objection as Democrats is not to photo ID. Here's 364 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: Dick Durbin quote. They say it's show of voter ID. 365 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to that. They ask you for an 366 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: ID at the airport, don't they? That's reasonable? 367 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: All right? 368 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: Here's Caitlin Collins at CNN asking Cory Booker quote, if 369 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: it was just a clean vote on voter ID specifically, 370 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: is that something you would support? 371 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: Corey Booker? Yes. 372 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: And New Jersey has voter ID laws. I've got to 373 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: show my driver's license. Chris Coons, Democrat from Delaware quote, 374 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: who could be against requiring ID to vote? Raphael Warnock, 375 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: Democrat from Georgia quote, I think you should have to 376 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: prove that you are who you say you are before 377 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: you vote. I support voter ID. Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan 378 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: quote voter ID, which hopefully all Americans are in agreement about. 379 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: Kirsten Gillibrand from New York quote, the IDs that we 380 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: all have in our wallets should be good enough to vote. 381 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: They always have been. 382 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat from Rhode Island quote, well, the voter 383 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: ID part is probably fine. 384 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: We have voter ID here in Rhode Island. 385 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: Reuben Gayego, Democrat from Arizona quote, if people want to 386 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: adopt the Arizona way, which is strict voter ID, I. 387 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: Think that would be fine. 388 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, both Democrats from Virginia. Quote, 389 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: we support reasonable steps that help maintain trusts in our elections, 390 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: including the voter identification requirements we already have in Virginia. 391 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: Jack Read, Democrat from Rhode Island. Quote, if the polls 392 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: simply required every American to show an idea at the polls, 393 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: then I would not be ringing such a loud alarm. 394 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: So that's what they all said. So Republicans said, all right, 395 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: we'll call your bluff. And when we put a vote 396 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: on just photo ID to vote, you know what happened. 397 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: What happened? I know the answer, but it makes me laugh. 398 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: Every single Democrat voted no, all of them. 399 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: Every one of them. 400 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: Everyone that I just read those quotes from that say 401 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: oh I support voter ide. They all voted no. I 402 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: mean it is a flat up It's just a flat 403 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: up lie. And part of the reason, part of the 404 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: reason that they do that is because they know the 405 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: media won't call them on it. 406 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: That they know that they. 407 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: Can lie over and over and over again and there 408 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: will be no consequences. Now, I will say an exception 409 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: to that, So CBS News, David Ellison bought CBS News, 410 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: and so now suddenly CBS News is owned by someone 411 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: who says he has a commitment to making it balanced 412 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: and not having it be a partisan left wing network. 413 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what CBS News tweeted out earlier today. 414 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: Quote an amendment that would require voters to show photo 415 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: identification to cast a ballot failed to advance in the 416 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: Senate on Thursday, despite Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer saying 417 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: last week that Democrats were not opposed to such a requirement. 418 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: So CBS actually reported straight out. I actually had some 419 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: fun with that and tweeted and said, you mean Schumer. 420 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: Lied, ha ha. 421 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: And there's a reason there, right, there's a reason you 422 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: have a Pinocchio emoji, and I used it. But part 423 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: of the reason they're willing to lie so brazenly is 424 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: what CBS did there is the exception. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, 425 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: they don't call them to account, The Washington Post, the 426 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: New York Times, they don't call them to account. And 427 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: so the Democrats all lie and then when you say, oh, 428 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: you support that, do you all right, well, do you 429 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: want to vote for it? They all say no. They 430 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 3: get almost no accountability for doing so. 431 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: It really is incredible. 432 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: And look, I do think this is going to be 433 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: very interesting going into the midterms, and I want to 434 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: get your reaction to this, because I actually think the 435 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: American people are paying attention and they were very frustrated 436 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: by the Democrats constantly taking their life harder on these 437 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: basic type issues, just like the airport. I think those 438 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: are things when you combine these issues together, the Save Act, 439 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: where its is overwhelming American support, like it's probably one 440 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: of the most bipartisan things you're pulling right now in 441 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: this country, if not the very top one, and yet 442 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 2: you have this type of divide. I actually think this 443 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: plays in the hands of Republicans if we do it 444 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: the right way. 445 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, Look, I think that's right, And I 446 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: think calling out Democrats for hypocrisy and lying and for 447 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: just really aggressive pardon partisanship. You know, I will say 448 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: there are people who say both sides are too extreme, 449 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: and I gotta say that that feels very reasonable and 450 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: even handed. Gosh, one side's too extreme. 451 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: So's the other. I just don't think it's accurate. 452 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: If you look at where we are now, the policy 453 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: position of the Democratic Party objectively are extreme. On immigration, 454 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: They're an open border party. They just refuse to fund 455 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: even a penny for immigration enforcement, and they slashed funding 456 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: for customs and border patrol. They are an open border 457 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: party that opposes arresting murderers and gang bangers and child rapists. 458 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: On issues of sexuality, every Democrat, all of them, support 459 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: boys and girls sports men and women's sports. They support 460 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: sterilization and surgical mutilation of kids. Those are extreme positions. 461 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: Those are on the ten side of ninety ten issues. 462 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: They support abolishing the police. They all just voted to 463 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: effectively abolish the police. And the immigration context, what are 464 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: the Democrats? What are the Republicans supporting? Policy wise? The 465 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: Republicans are supporting common sense principles, taxes, low regulations, lots 466 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: and lots of jobs, small businesses doing well, securing the border, 467 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: supporting law enforcement, protecting our families. Those are common sense position. Look, 468 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: the Democrats on foreign policy are embrace Hamas. There is 469 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: a real pro Hamas contingent in the Democrat Party that 470 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: is objectively extreme, and so I think saying the two 471 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: sides are kind of both too extreme, I don't think 472 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: that describes where the policy debate is now. I will 473 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: concede this. On the rhetoric, there is a fair point 474 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: to be made that both sides can use overheated rhetoric. 475 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: I think the Democrats do so routinely when they call Ice, 476 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: for example, Nazis and Gestapo, and they call for dosing 477 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 3: and going after the families of law enforcement officers. I mean, 478 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: I think that's grotesque. But there are Republicans who use 479 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: overheated rhetoric as well, and I wish they did not know. 480 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I get that question a lot as I travel around Texas, 481 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: around the country, and I say, listen, I don't have 482 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: the ability to change the language other people use. 483 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: I can control what I say. You know, Ben, you 484 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: and me and verdict. 485 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: I try not to demonize people personally, but I do 486 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: try to talk about policies and say it is an 487 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: objectively unreasonable policy to support open borders and to just 488 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 3: take away the paychecks of law enforcement officers forever. And 489 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: that is the position of the Democrat Party. I think 490 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: that's the way we ought to have political discussions on 491 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: substance and merits, rather than making it personal. 492 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 2: I want to be honest with you for a second 493 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: about how an act of compassion really feels. A couple 494 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: of years ago, I made the choice to partner with 495 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: an amazing organization called Compassion International. Why because I wanted 496 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: to sponsor a child in need. It was a nice idea, sure, 497 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: but I had no idea just how much that simple 498 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: act would change my life as well. I sponsored Nadiya 499 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: and got to watch your life change right in front 500 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: of my eyes, going from starving literally alone on the streets, 501 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: to getting the healthcare and education she needs to reach 502 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: her God given full potential. I got to be a 503 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: part of that change, and the light of that compassion 504 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: not only illuminates in her, it illuminates now in me. 505 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: That is the power of compassion, the light of Christ 506 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: shines on all of us. Feel it for yourself and 507 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: change literally a child's life, change the world, and you 508 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: also change yourself. You can sponsor child today. Visit compassion 509 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: dot com. That's Compassion dot com. 510 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Santa. 511 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: I want to finish the show with a really important subject, 512 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: and you've described it as bigger than Watergate. It's a 513 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: modern day Watergate, certainly, but we now have a dive 514 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: into the bombshell Senate Judiciary hearing on Arctic frost, and 515 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: you had a great staateer and I want to play 516 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: it for everybody. 517 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: This is how you kind of described what's happening. 518 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: Watergate was about a handful of files in a single office. 519 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: This reached into tens of thousands of private communications, emails, records, 520 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: and personal data. Toll records, bank records, donor lists, law 521 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: firm records, and other personal files relating to every major 522 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: conservative organization. 523 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: Were subpoena. 524 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: That sums it up. 525 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: This was a one hundred percent weaponization of our Department 526 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: of Justice to go after Donald Trump and anyone they 527 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: thought was important to him they could help him win 528 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: the White House again. 529 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: Well, that clip was from a hearing I chaired this 530 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: week of the Senate Judiciary Committee that was examining Arctic 531 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: frost and was releasing yet more documents that showed the 532 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: massive scope of the abuse of power. Look Watergate at 533 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: the end of the day was a handful of Cuban 534 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: burglars who broke in into an office of the DNC, 535 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: and it was a failed burglar that didn't even succeed, 536 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: and it resulted in the President of the United States 537 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: resigning in disgrace. It resulted in more than forty people 538 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: being criminally prosecuted, many of them going to jail. By 539 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: any measure, Arctic frost was orders of magnitude worse. You 540 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: had nearly two hundred subpoenas. You had more than four 541 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: hundred individuals and groups that were targeted. The Biden Department 542 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: of Justice issued subpoenas to get the phone records for 543 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: more than twenty percent of the Republicans in the Senate, 544 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: including yours. Truly, it was a massive abuse of power. 545 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: And the amazing thing is the Democrats don't care at all. 546 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: And one of the points I made at the hearing, 547 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: there are a bunch of Democrat senators sitting there at 548 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: the hearing, and I pointed out, not one of them 549 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: is going to say a word. They don't care about 550 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: abuse of power. For them, partisanship and partisan control is 551 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: all that mattered. And I contrasted it. 552 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: With what happened in Watergate. Here, listen to what I 553 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: had to say. 554 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: Fifty years ago, this nation was confronted with an abuse 555 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: of power, and it responded not with indifference, but with accountability. 556 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one of the big differences of Watergate 557 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: versus Arctic Frost. When Richard Nixon and his corrupt Attorney 558 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: general in his corrupt administration abused their law enforcement powers 559 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: to go after their political opponents. Republican senators stood up 560 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: to the president of their own party and defended the 561 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: rule of law. 562 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: Where is even a single. 563 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: Democrat senator who has said one word about this abuse 564 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: of power? 565 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 2: You're right, by the way, they're all silent on it 566 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: because they don't care as long as it was spying 567 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: on you. 568 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Literally. 569 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I will say what happened in Watergate, 570 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: what actually ended it and when Richard Nixon resigned, is 571 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: it was a group of senior Republican senators that drove 572 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: the sixteen blocks up Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House 573 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: and sat in the Oval office and they said, mister President, 574 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: you have a choice. You either resign or we will 575 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: impeach you and convict you and remove you from office. 576 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: And it was a moment of real political courage for 577 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: those senators to do that. I'm not a Richard Nixon fan. 578 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: I think he was utterly corrupt. As you know, Ben, 579 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: I've written four books. The third book I wrote was 580 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: called Justice Corrupted, How the Left has Weaponized the Legal System, 581 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: And the opening chapter of that book is a deep 582 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: dive into Watergate and it details the just absolute corruption 583 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: and abuse of power what Richard Nixon tried to do, 584 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: Barack Obama and now Joe Biden succeeded in doing. And 585 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: one of the real differences is Republicans were willing to 586 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: stand up and say no, this goes too far. 587 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: There are no Democrats willing to do so. 588 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: And all right, so there was a witness that the 589 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: Democrats had called who was a former senior agent of 590 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: the FBI, and he gave this whole testemony about how 591 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: the FBI is utterly beyond politics and it's impartial and 592 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: it has no partisan agenda at all. And I actually 593 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: cross examined him quite a bit and I said, look, 594 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: I agree with what you're saying. That's what the FBI 595 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: is supposed to be, and that's what DOJ is supposed 596 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: to be. And I'm an alumnus of the Department of Justice. 597 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: I served in the George W. Bush Department of Justice, 598 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: and it has a more than century long tradition of 599 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: being outside of politics, not partisan at all. And I said, 600 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: one of the worst things that Barack Obama and especially 601 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: Joe Biden did is they corrupted it and turned DOJ 602 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: in the FBI into partisan tools. And this witness didn't 603 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: want to admit it. But here's one question I asked him. 604 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: Give a listen. 605 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: Menendez is currently incarcerated in prison for corruption. And if 606 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: you've got evidence of criminal conduct of one individual to 607 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice as an obligation to investigate that, 608 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: would you agree that's qualitatively different than a phishing expedition 609 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: targeting twenty percent of the Republicans in the Senate. Would 610 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: you agree that's qualitatively different. I'm not familiar with the 611 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: details of either investigations, so I wouldn't want to speculate. 612 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this. 613 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: Would you be troubled if tomorrow the Trump Department of 614 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: Justice issued a subpoena for the phone records of every 615 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: Democrat that sits on the Juiciary Committee, not if it 616 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: was based on factual evidence specific and articulable effects. Well, 617 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: let me be clear, I'd be damn troubled, and that 618 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: would be an abuse of power. And I'm going to 619 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: predict not a single Democrat is going to say even 620 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: a word about the abuse of power on their side, 621 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 3: and that double standard is troubling. 622 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: Senatorly, Senator, you're absolutely right there in the point that 623 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: you were making. 624 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is amazing that nobody and by the way, 625 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: the entire hearing, the Democrats were completely silent, Like when 626 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: it came their turn to question, they just said orange 627 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: man bat They just said we hate Donald Trump. They 628 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: didn't acknowledge it. Look, one of the things that happened 629 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: in Arctic Frost is not only did you have Jack 630 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 3: Smith getting subpoenas for the phone records of twenty percent 631 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: of the Republicans in the Senate, and by the way, 632 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 3: also getting subpoenas and wire tapping Cash Patel, who was 633 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: then a private citizen announce the director of the FBI. 634 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: They tapped the phones of Susie Wiles, who was then 635 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 3: the campaign manager. She was running Donald Trump's campaign. I mean, 636 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: this was a political opposition effort. And by the way, 637 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: they taped her conversations with her lawyer, which is illegal 638 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 3: on any level if you look at the subpoenas they 639 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: issued for the senators. They also went to Judge Bosberg, 640 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: who is an extraordinarily partisan, left wing judge. He's the 641 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: favorite judge for these radical groups that have been getting 642 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 3: nationwide injunctions against various Trump policies. I chaired a hearing 643 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: several months ago calling for Judge Boseburg to be in 644 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: p eached and removed from office because he is so 645 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 3: extreme in Arctic frost. For every single Senator that Jack 646 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: Smith subpoenaed, he signed an order ordering the phone companies 647 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: not to disclose to us that they were subpoening on 648 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: our phone record. And in that order he concluded, the 649 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: court finds that we will destroy evidence if we know 650 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: about it. Now, there is zero basis in fact to 651 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: make that finding. 652 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: Look, I'm a member of the bar. 653 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: I My integrity matters a great deal to me. I'm 654 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: not going to destroy evidence, and there are no facts 655 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: that could be introduced that would suggest I could. There's 656 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: also a federal statute prohibiting non disclosure orders for Senate records, 657 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: and yet Judge Boseberg violated the law that was the 658 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: kind of abuse of power we saw in Arctic frost, 659 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: and it was truly unprecedented. It makes watergates seem mild 660 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: by comparison. 661 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: No doubt we're going to keep covering this. Don't forget. 662 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: Download Verdict with Ted Cruiser wherever you get your podcasts, 663 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: and if you're listening to this radio show, we do 664 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 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