Speaker 1: The second date of day. One of the keys to
Speaker 1: successfully dating is just to actually give a crap and try.
Speaker 2: That's a big key. I feel like that's too much work.
Speaker 1: The thing is, don't try too hard, because that comes
Speaker 1: off desperate. You can't try too little either, though, because
Speaker 1: then you seem like a jerk just doesn't care. Just
Speaker 1: goldielocks it and try medium till it's just right. And
Speaker 1: one of our listeners, William, emailed the show saying he's
Speaker 1: worried he may have tried too hard on his date. William,
Speaker 1: you didn't channel your inner Goldilocks for this.
Speaker 3: I tried too hard.
Speaker 4: I didn't wake up in a strange house of three
Speaker 4: bears failure.
Speaker 1: Well, we can't undo anything that happened, but why don't
Speaker 1: you tell us about it a little bit. What's the
Speaker 1: name of the woman that you went out with?
Speaker 3: Her name is Stacy.
Speaker 1: Okay, so where'd you meet her?
Speaker 3: I met her online? You know, at first, I was
Speaker 3: actually pretty intimidated just by her profile pictures.
Speaker 2: Oh, because she's like really attractive to you.
Speaker 3: Well, that for sure, but also she seems to have
Speaker 3: kind of an extravagant, sophisticated, cultured life more so than myself.
Speaker 4: I'll say, Okay, why did she put in her pictures
Speaker 4: to like to pick that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was like pictures of her on a sailboat
Speaker 3: with what looks to be her very well dressed family,
Speaker 3: maybe in Greece somewhere.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: She was, you know, at soccer games in Europe.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a match, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to be fancy enough to
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was really intimidating, which I actually told
Speaker 3: her that in the initial messaging.
Speaker 5: Oh you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty honest, maybe to the fault, but.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well she obviously liked it because she responded, alexis.
Speaker 1: If a guy writes to you, I'm intimidated by you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is that not a strong move? No?
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 2: I mean a football in Europe doesn't cost that much.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't be that until. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: saying take it to get that. Okay, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I take it back.
Speaker 1: Wow. But the bottom line is she responded.
Speaker 3: And yeah, she responded, all right, she said, ah, you
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 1: So what did you do for a date?
Speaker 3: I made dinner reservations, nice little spot. I got dressed up,
Speaker 3: even borrowed nice shirt from my roommate.
Speaker 2: Oh everyone, did you normally do that, like share fancy clothes?
Speaker 1: You have a roommate life. I used to have a
Speaker 1: blazer and we have like a community blazer.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's like they doody.
Speaker 1: Did that pay off for you?
Speaker 3: I mean I was feeling good, So that's helpful, I think.
Speaker 3: And she told me I looked, and she she looked incredible.
Speaker 2: Did you tell her that was scary too? How good
Speaker 2: she looked?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I I reiterated how intimidated I was.
Speaker 1: I imagine, like cowering at everything, like just.
Speaker 2: To eat.
Speaker 1: We're playing it up for you, man, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: were fine.
Speaker 3: I think so. I mean she was really nice for
Speaker 3: the most part. I mean I saw that she loves
Speaker 3: chocolate off on her profile, so I thought i'd bring
Speaker 3: her a gift, and I brought her almond rocca cute, Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1: Was the best option.
Speaker 2: That's kind of a grandparent's chocolate.
Speaker 3: But you know, at this store and it looks nice,
Speaker 3: it has like gold foil. I thought it looked kind
Speaker 3: of fancy, but she said it's not really chocolate, which
Speaker 3: I didn't really I'd never had really eaten myself.
Speaker 1: It's kind of toffee A lot of time, harsh to
Speaker 1: say when someone's giving you a gift that's not actually
Speaker 1: take us to the highlights of the date. What were
Speaker 1: the good moments?
Speaker 3: Well, during dinner, I wanted to get to I had.
Speaker 3: I was so curious, you know, from her profile, and
Speaker 3: I kept asking her a lot of questions and I
Speaker 3: might have kind of asked too many questions.
Speaker 2: Is that possible maybe if.
Speaker 3: It starts to feel like somebody's given you the third
Speaker 3: degree interrogating you. It wasn't really my attention.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if there's not like a real natural
Speaker 2: flow to it, I guess you.
Speaker 1: Don't want the date to come off sounding like a job.
Speaker 4: In Yeah, tell me here we see yourself. Can you
Speaker 4: think of one question that went too far?
Speaker 3: I asked her if she's ever been engaged before.
Speaker 1: That date?
Speaker 2: Question? Okay? And what was her response?
Speaker 3: Well, because we talked a little bit about the house
Speaker 3: relationships and she had, uh was dating a guy in
Speaker 3: Spain for a long time, and and that's how it
Speaker 3: came up because she said it was really serious.
Speaker 2: It's kind intense.
Speaker 3: I was not trying to pry, though, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the end of the day. What happened
Speaker 1: at the end.
Speaker 3: Well, we had the almon roka for dessert, which was
Speaker 3: nice at the restaurant, and you.
Speaker 2: Just opened up the package right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, because they asked if we wanted any of the dessert,
Speaker 3: she said she wouldn't that hunger. But I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I brought this for you, and that's when I.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: That's when she turned up her nose, and so it's
Speaker 2: not really chocolate.
Speaker 3: She did say that, but then we did actually enjoy
Speaker 3: it together, and I hope she thought it was funny
Speaker 3: that I tried even to fail that, even bringing chocolate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: All right, well I'm going to give it a B
Speaker 1: plus so far. That's my that's my grade on a curve.
Speaker 3: Have you heard from her, Well, I don't really heard
Speaker 3: from her, but it ended okay, like we hugged, we
Speaker 3: said goodbye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what Brooke does with her children though,
Speaker 1: so you can't really judge by that.
Speaker 2: But they complain about every food I am I give them.
Speaker 1: So the good news is there's a lot of room
Speaker 1: to improve from here, and we're going to try and
Speaker 1: do that when we come back and do your second
Speaker 1: date update right after this second if you're just joining us.
Speaker 1: We're on the phone with William, who went out recently
Speaker 1: with a world traveler named Stacy. Stacy has studied in
Speaker 1: the universities of Europe. She's dated the men of Spain
Speaker 1: and cheered for the football clubs of Liechtenburg, where instead
Speaker 1: of cheering hooray there they cheer and reverse. Oh really,
Speaker 1: can you say horay backwards? Yeah? That's right. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: classy because it's European. Yeah. At the end of the
Speaker 1: second date, when we get Stacy and William beat up again.
Speaker 1: But obviously she is clearly a world traveler. He was
Speaker 1: intimidated by that, which led me to the question, William,
Speaker 1: why would she want to go out with you in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 2: Jefferson came off so hard.
Speaker 1: He said to himself that she's so worldly, she's so traveled.
Speaker 1: What would be the appeal for her.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a nice guy, and I'm open to going
Speaker 3: on more traveling ventures. I mean, I've traveled a little
Speaker 3: bit myself.
Speaker 1: Oh, you've traveled the world.
Speaker 2: Come on, Jeffrey.
Speaker 4: Not everybody can afford that, But I think what it
Speaker 4: would be appealing is he seems like a really curious guy, right, Like,
Speaker 4: that's who someone who likes to travel website.
Speaker 1: For curious man. I think that's a totally different issue, Broke.
Speaker 1: He's like, I think you sound totally fine.
Speaker 4: By the way, William, honestly interested in her adventures, asked
Speaker 4: a ton of questions.
Speaker 1: Have you traveled at all?
Speaker 4: Before?
Speaker 1: You not travel? What's your travel experience? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've been out of the country. I've
Speaker 3: gone to Cabo twice. Oh wow, I've driven to Scottsdale
Speaker 3: before Scottsdale.
Speaker 1: Wow, Arizona. Okay, but there's something to work right here.
Speaker 1: It's not quite you know, the Vienna Opera house, but
Speaker 1: it's close.
Speaker 4: So the positive is she could show him all these places. Jeffrey,
Speaker 4: you just have to convince her and.
Speaker 1: He can show her the golf course at Scott's Stay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just get her on the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk to this worldly lady. Let's get
Speaker 1: her on the phone right now. Here we go. You're
Speaker 1: ready to speak English.
Speaker 3: She does speak English, right, I think she speaks a
Speaker 3: couple of languages actually, but.
Speaker 1: English on your date is going to go really all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and see how it goes here. I'm
Speaker 1: down the number right now. Hello, bon Joel is the Stacey.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: For he French.
Speaker 1: I won't try. Sorry, Stacey, I'm hoping. This is a
Speaker 1: radio show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 5: Can I help you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a lot of help, I really do.
Speaker 1: But mostly we're looking for help for one of our
Speaker 1: listeners named William, because he's a guy who, rumor has
Speaker 1: it you went on a date with recently.
Speaker 5: What is this about a date?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it's a segment we do called Second
Speaker 1: Date Update where our listeners go out with someone and
Speaker 1: if they're not hearing back, or if they feel like
Speaker 1: they're getting ghosted, they can email us and we'll try
Speaker 1: and reach out to that person for them.
Speaker 2: It's a real North American continent type thing.
Speaker 1: M m yeah, sorry for being weird about all the
Speaker 1: North America stuff. It's just we we heard that you're
Speaker 1: very well traveled.
Speaker 5: Yes, I am well traveled. Who is the guy? Or
Speaker 5: which date was this? And then on a couple recently.
Speaker 1: It was William? Oh yeah, William oh William? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you guys went and got dinner together the other night.
Speaker 5: Yes, we went out to dinner.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you enjoy it?
Speaker 5: I don't know what you want from me here. It
Speaker 5: was it was a nice time.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I guess is what we want is honesty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just we're trying to help out William a little
Speaker 1: bit because he doesn't understand why there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: second meetup.
Speaker 4: He really liked you a lot and thought that maybe
Speaker 4: they saw some potential between you two.
Speaker 5: I just honestly, he just wasn't cultured enough for me.
Speaker 5: And I don't know, he just he lacked manners.
Speaker 1: Oh, lacked manners? Well, hold on, are we nitpicking? Did
Speaker 1: not like have his fork in the right area of
Speaker 1: the place.
Speaker 5: He just he didn't. He doesn't have good.
Speaker 2: Etiquette, Okay, any example.
Speaker 5: Yeah, An example is he kind of yelled out when
Speaker 5: he had to go to the bathroom. You know, we're
Speaker 5: in a.
Speaker 1: Really nice restaurant, announced it to like the whole room
Speaker 1: or what do you mean.
Speaker 5: Yes, he just he got up and he says, I'm
Speaker 5: going to the bathroom, and it was like it was
Speaker 5: a big announcement.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's bad etiquette.
Speaker 1: Well, excuse me.
Speaker 4: I think he was just trying to tell her where
Speaker 4: he was going so that you didn't think he was
Speaker 4: ditching you or something.
Speaker 5: Well, he could have just said, excuse me for a minute, exactly, I'll.
Speaker 1: Be right back.
Speaker 2: Have a lot higher standards than I do.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit picky, at least for us.
Speaker 1: Is that all that he did.
Speaker 5: No, We're at a very nice seakhouse and he waved
Speaker 5: down the waiter to get more.
Speaker 1: Bread, And okay, is that is that rude? What is that?
Speaker 2: I love that bread.
Speaker 1: I know, if the bread's good, you want more.
Speaker 5: Well, it just seemed a little low class to me.
Speaker 5: He would have waited till they came to refill you know,
Speaker 5: my wine, or I'm.
Speaker 1: A good server at a nice restaurant.
Speaker 2: It's going to check on you all the time, so
Speaker 2: you expect him to be around every five minutes.
Speaker 1: I guess if I remember back to my private school,
Speaker 1: you are supposed to wait for the waiter to come
Speaker 1: to the table. You're not supposed to shout across the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Nobody lives by these rules anymore.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, that's brook, but it's not okay. When
Speaker 1: you go to an actual respected place, a.
Speaker 2: Beautiful steak dinner. Right, He's the one that picked it,
Speaker 2: he's the one that took you there.
Speaker 5: Yes, the restaurant was great. It's just I mean, there's
Speaker 5: more stuff. He's just so loud and I was whispering
Speaker 5: because there's other people around, and it was just really
Speaker 5: inappropriate for such a nice place.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, excuse me, excuse me, I'm sorry. This is William.
Speaker 3: We were at an outback steakhouse. It wasn't a Michelin
Speaker 3: star type of restaurant.
Speaker 5: I mean, oh.
Speaker 1: Sorry, hold on, hold on, hold on, William. I need
Speaker 1: to let Stacy know that William has been waiting on
Speaker 1: the other line listening to this whole conversation. He's uh,
Speaker 1: he's wanting to talk to you.
Speaker 5: It was, Yes, it was an outback steakhouse. It was
Speaker 5: the first time I've ever been. It was a very
Speaker 5: lovely Australian steakhouse. Lovely.
Speaker 1: You're so world You've never been to an outback, which
Speaker 1: is not worldly you what do you mean, stay You
Speaker 1: think that an outback steakhouse is a very like fine
Speaker 1: dining establishment.
Speaker 4: It's a big.
Speaker 1: Problement for any outback people listening.
Speaker 5: It's not that it was like the best steakhouse I've
Speaker 5: ever been, but it was just it felt authentic.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait did you did you look around at
Speaker 2: the other guests. You can wave down all the free
Speaker 2: bread you want there.
Speaker 5: I have traveled a lot, and not all restaurants are
Speaker 5: five star, you know, Michelin restaurants, but they're beautiful and
Speaker 5: there's culture. So I thought that that was just an authentic,
Speaker 5: you know thing.
Speaker 1: Giving it the fact it doesn't really.
Speaker 4: There's definitely culture outback, but it's not like high society culture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, honestly, I'm just happy he didn't take
Speaker 5: me to a chain restaurant.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't recommend googling out backs.
Speaker 2: It would be you should try Applebee's. It's this little
Speaker 2: quaint place.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, great Long Island girl.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give you too many ideas.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even know what you guys are talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't worry about any of that. We should
Speaker 1: be worried about is William, who had a great time
Speaker 1: with you the other night. Restaurant and etiquette aside, and
Speaker 1: what he really wants is just to see you one
Speaker 1: more time and give it another chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, if you do agree to
Speaker 3: go on a date with me on the second day
Speaker 3: and night, I really do.
Speaker 5: Hope you do.
Speaker 3: I will take you to a really nice place and
Speaker 3: I will show you that I have proper etiquette. I
Speaker 3: am a classy guy. I know how to behave depending
Speaker 3: on where I'm at. And wow, I want you to
Speaker 3: give a chance to show that to you.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: It was a gentleman response if I have ever heard.
Speaker 1: One, well crafted, very thoughtful. And all that's left now
Speaker 1: is stacy a yes or no? If you want to
Speaker 1: go out with him one more time, we'll pay for
Speaker 1: it and tell us if you're curtsying while you're doing it. Please.
Speaker 5: You know what I I don't do charity. I'm okay,
Speaker 5: Oh do charity?
Speaker 2: You want to be charity like that good manners and
Speaker 2: dar You really are.
Speaker 1: Worldly, aren't you.
Speaker 5: I do charity. I don't take charity, will man.
Speaker 3: I am sorry, dude, Yeah, yeah, he can't win them all.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll give it another crack out there, wave.
Speaker 2: Your hands around and ask for help again.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning. Oh my god, it just occurred
Speaker 1: to me. I totally forgot to bring up the almond roccas.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sounds European and fancy.
Speaker 2: It's a classy dessert.
Speaker 1: It's not from Europe, but he should get points for
Speaker 1: bringing a classy sounding dessert to out Okay, classy.
Speaker 2: Sounding I like.
Speaker 4: My husband used to send those to is Jamake, his
Speaker 4: grandma and Jamaica, and she called them the candy with
Speaker 4: the bread crumbs.
Speaker 1: I think if you pull some gold foil wrapped candy
Speaker 1: out of your pocket after dinner, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's half melted, that is class.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really melt because it's so hard.
Speaker 1: But I totally forgot to mention it though. I am
Speaker 1: losing my touch.
Speaker 2: That's what went wrong.
Speaker 1: It could have been at least some bonus points in
Speaker 1: his corner for having a little bit of extra you know, Jush.
Speaker 2: Dude, she's a little confused. I mean she thought the
Speaker 2: outback was fancy.
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't get it done this time, but we
Speaker 1: promised to do better next time. Yeah, okay, you can
Speaker 1: be part of that next time. If you emailed the show,
Speaker 1: we'll call that person who wasn't calling you back.
Speaker 5: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning