WEBVTT - Eating While Broke: RAZ B - Raz's Ramen 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.920 You know, I've been I've been very vocal, and I've 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.240 been holding back with a lot of restraints because I've 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:09.840 been doing a lot of work on myself and I 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.520 just really just you know, i'd like to say, and 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.480 I'm not afraid to say, and I'm not afraid to say, 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:17.480 and I'm not afraid to say. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.560 So what do you have us eating today? As you 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:44.200 broke dish? 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.000 Well, you know, for me, I can only remember when 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.479 it was brought to me, like it was either like 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.160 my main dish was top right and it was hard 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.080 for me to choose because it was either the top rhyman. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.560 It was either you know that egg sandwich, you know 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.640 what the bread or like a tuna sandwich or a 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:13.600 peanut butter swich. But I feel like I hate to. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.200 Yeah, And we went back and forth. Just so you 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.880 guys know, a lot of our guests shoes top Ramen. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.919 I'm always like be towing top Ramen. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.640 It's the cheapest a couple of noodles. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.080 It's because everyone's dish goes into a cookbook and I 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.920 know that top Ramen is it's a popular So the 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.360 only time I accept top Ramen on the show is 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.240 if you have tweaked it. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.120 But Rad says that he does tweak. Kids, what do 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:35.920 you do to yours? 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.040 I mean there's times I've put tuning in it. There's 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.960 times that I put eggs in it. There's times and 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.600 I just put a lot of different seasons just to 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.400 try to figure out like karaokey sauce, oyster sauce. Try, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.960 you just try and freed the different noodles. But like, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.800 for real, I would love to come back because I 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.400 have a few other broke dishes now that like, because 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.000 you wheels are turning right, yeah, because you opened up that. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.280 Yeah, you opened up that that that you know, that 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.680 that portal of what it was like to be broke, Like, well, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.200 what the fuck was niggas eating like motherfucker's eating like 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.120 Jack in the box tacos for a dollar? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.360 I still love those, by the way, I still eat them. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.280 I still eat like That's like when I go to 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.119 dragone Crack and people are like, what do you want, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.520 I'm like curly fries and some to two for one tacos. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.280 Right, you talked about never forgetting where you came from, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.959 so for real, for real, but yeah, that's why but 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.160 now that I know that you're building a cookbook, you know, 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.639 I would love to come back. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:29.560 because we have a bunch of I. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.840 Just think that that recipe, Well, why don't you start 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.200 us off a right cool all y'all listeners, y'all know 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.359 how the top ramen goes. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:41.000 You boil the hot water and uh you go from there. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.200 So it's real simple. We're gonna keep it light and simple. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.560 But let me tell you this, when your boy was, 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.359 you know, seeing how many y'all like tasting us this 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.079 season just by itself. Really, yes, the season is good. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.320 Mind of that chicken season in the cup with the 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:59.680 little squares, oh the bollion listen called I don't cook. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.720 But I will tell you this, there's men many times 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.480 right just when in my mom's cap, I'm like, yo, 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.480 I'm just gonna put this in here and put this 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:06.919 in here. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:08.839 Are you gonna do two or one? 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.000 Always better? 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.200 It was always better. So I had a guess. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.160 One time they said that they would save half of 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.640 the they would eat a one pack and they would 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.160 save half for like lunch. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.200 And half for break. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.480 Y'all, break break the second break. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.160 Don't dump that little seasoning. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.840 Pack ship is in there. Well, we got to get 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.360 it out. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.120 Now, you know, ra isn't in the kitchen a lot. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.440 Yeah, yeah, we're not in the kitchen as okay, perfect, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.320 all right? 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.640 So I have another question. When you do your ramen. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.760 I like to do my ramen where it's like cook 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.520 not all the way mushy, and then I drain it 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.120 a little bit so it's a little more dry. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.240 How do you do yours? 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.000 It depends on how I feel that day, right. Sometimes 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.040 I will completely drain it and I'll put some butter 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.200 in which I'm gonna put some butter in, some singing salt, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:04:02.160 you know, maybe maybe an egg. I typically I drain it. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.440 Sometimes I'll drain it and I put it like a 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.880 lot of butter, and I just have it like really 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.480 really dry. And sometimes I just like I leave the 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.560 soup because I think the soup is pretty good too. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.960 Yeah, Like I like the soup. But after having ramen 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.160 like eight hundred and million, thousand, kazillion times, I do 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.599 the draining and I do the butter mixture. But you've 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.640 seen so much success in your life, are I like 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.159 to go back to the time when you were eating 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.960 this ramen. Okay, So with you, you have an interesting 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.520 story because I'm assuming you were broke before you were successful, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.320 and then there was a period in the middle. I'm 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.840 sure we're dipped a little bit and then it picked 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.719 up again. So which part of the Ramen story do 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.479 we get today? 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.919 Oh, that's a good question. You get the story from 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.880 the Ramen when I was just starting out, and I'm 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.800 sure you probably get that from most people in this 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.680 industry if you are not financially Uh, what's the word? 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.520 I want to Financial literacy is everything in this business. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.560 So a lot of artists have to have took a 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.080 dip and and splurage and ran through money sitting and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.720 all to manage it with credit and so on and 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.800 so forth. So I've definitely experienced some some heart into 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.480 my life Where've ran through some money and I've been 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.760 fortunate enough to be able to, you know, continue to 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.839 move forward, you know what I'm saying. With with learning 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.719 how to manage money and continue to grow with funds, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.120 I get like, if you get a hundred K, you 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.240 know what I'm saying, don't just run through it. You 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.560 know what I'm saying, You can you can actually invest 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.600 on a hundred thousand and turn it turn to five 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.960 hundred thousand, turn that five hundred thousand into you know, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:30.599 to five million. So you know, I recall my mom 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.760 always being gone at work, and you know, as a kid, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.440 you're growing up and you really don't know how to 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.280 cook for yourself. So the easiest thing you can do, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.760 you can take some ramen, keep the water up, and 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.800 then you know you can cook. You can actually cook 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.160 the ramen the microwave, you know. But the easiest thing 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.640 for me is I learned, you know, to to boil 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.159 the water and put the ramen in there. And I 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.560 just used to get really really creative and and eat 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.640 that ramen and remember as it and and think as 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.600 a as a kid, what do I want to do 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.479 when I when I get older. On top of like 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.560 waiting for cartoons to come on and different things like that, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.719 but like, there was always this sense of destiny that 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.920 I had upon my life, and I feel less for everyone, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.160 you know that that comes to this earth. I had 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.960 a sense of destiny. It's just really all about figuring 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.920 out figuring you know, you kind to kind of grow 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.440 into your your spirituality. You have to grow into your enlightenments. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.240 You have to grow into your discipline. You have to 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.520 embrace the world. But at the same time, excuse me, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.640 you have to learn how to be in the world, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.400 not of the world. So for me, you know, this, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.800 this dish represents like humility. For me, it represents it 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.520 takes me back to the time when I was a kid, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:40.360 just cooking that, thinking and dreaming, you know. And even 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.919 at times as as I got older, I still found 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.839 myself eating ram and I wound up living in China. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.719 When I was well, I had some success. I had 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:47.279 a lot of success. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.359 Actually, yeah, before you went to China. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.520 But when you were saying that, you were thinking about 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.920 your destiny And while making this, did you think, Okay, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.240 I'm going to be a music star or a dancer? 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.680 Like what were you thinking when you were thinking about 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.279 your desk? You know, do you need to turn that up? 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.960 And I turned it down actually because I'm gonna let 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.880 them want to cook it for a little bit. I 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:15.360 it's a really good question. I would definitely say what 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.280 a child likes faith. There was a lot of times 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.560 my mind just wondered, and I felt like as I 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.800 got older, I finally had to kind of like dig 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.360 get back into what I used to like or what 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.800 I used to think about, And that's kind of hard 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.800 to remember. What do you used to think about and 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.240 dream of as a kid. I think one of the 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:39.200 biggest things for me it was always having a major platform. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.720 It was always being a voice, It was always being 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.160 a light. It was always making people laugh. Right, So 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.960 at a young age, I recalled being like I would 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.240 I learned trying to drive a stick shift at like 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.840 eight nine years old, right, So I would take the 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.160 car to the store, to the Mexican market. But a 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.840 lot of times my mom would tell me, she remember 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.280 that there would be times that I would go to 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.080 the Mexim mark and I'll be like acting like I 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.760 was singing Spanish and you know, imitating different Spanish songs 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.520 that I heard and dancing. And you know, for me, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.200 that sparked the level of entertainment because I wasn't afraid 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:16.200 to you know, yeah, and be the eyeball in the room, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.200 per se and uh, you know, to give it, to 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.720 give a person a chuckle or laugh. It brought me 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.280 great joy that I was able to give them joy. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:25.920 So I think that's something that I actually held onto. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.480 Being a class clown and different things like that. But 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.960 once again, I say this dish actually really represents like 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.800 the times when I you know, didn't know what to cook. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.640 You know, you know, it was the it was the 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.839 cheapest thing to buy. There was there was times where 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.160 you know, money was just really really short. That's like 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:43.600 a go to. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.600 But now you said that when you were when you 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.680 were a child, but you lacked faith, Like why would 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.839 you say that, say black face? 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:57.280 Yeah you said like black face. I thought you did 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.000 because I was like, that's interesting that you said. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.400 I mean maybe maybe at manage, maybe I did like 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.160 some faith. I mean, you know, I mean if I 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.559 did say that, I would say to this that your 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.920 favor is challenge and you may be leaving something as 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.600 a kid, but you have people around telling you that 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.080 you can't be a scientist. Oh that's gonna take you 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.280 thirty two years, Like damn, thanks for discouraging me. But 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.680 they gave me the truth at the same time. So 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.840 it's like, but a kid can't process that at a 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.240 young age, right, You kind of need that pat on 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:28.640 the back and say yeah, you can do it. And 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.640 if you do, see you know that the interest is 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.360 really there for a kid. You have to continue to 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.040 put those roadblocks in front of them for the sake 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.200 and continue to elevate if that's what it is, because 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.600 I feel like a lot of us could be. I 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.000 feel like everyone should know physics to the highest level. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.800 I feel like we're all scientists. I feel like we're 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.760 all super intelligence, the way our bodies are made, the 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.440 way the universe works, And I just feel like we've 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.920 been taught to be dumbed down versus to be super enlightened. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.640 And I feel like when I look at countries like 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.040 China and how they brought seven hundred million people out 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:01.640 of poverty in thirty years, it's that's how you empower culture, right, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.280 And you wonder why the the end, the Chinese n 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.480 is the number one currency in the world, which I 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.160 knew that was going to happen eventually anyway, because the 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.360 way America's running their currency. So that's a whole other conversation. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.520 That's a definite whole of the conversation. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.959 How old were you when you started B two K, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:21.880 when you got into B two. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.960 K, it's a good question, probably the thirteen and a half, fourteen, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:25.840 maybe thirteen and a. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.040 Half, So what led to that? So you're eight, so 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.280 what I'm what I'm gathering is like, you're eight years old. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.920 You're definitely not your typical eight year old I don't know, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.760 eight or nine year olds driving stick shifted cars. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.840 And yeah, rolling out in the street. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.360 Yeah, So how did how did how did that nine 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.280 year old self transition into like a B two K moment? 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:44.880 That that's a good question. You know, I have a 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.959 family in the industry, you know, I would definitely say 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.920 that was a segue, that was a that was definitely 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:55.720 a path of bridge those my cousin okay, right, and 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.000 my brother was I would say my brother was really 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.160 more interested in the music industry per se than me. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.240 So there was times where he brought me along for 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.880 his talent shows and we had this little group we 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.520 call called brothers Too, And you know, just to give 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.520 like people a little context of my life. You know, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.200 my mom was going through and beuse some relationship at 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.040 the time, and I was in and at a foster home. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.680 So around the ages of twelve and after thirteen, my 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.000 cousin Christus was able to take over guardianship for me, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.480 and I think it was pretty cool that just kind 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.720 of like growing up and seeing different groups and different 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.440 being inspired by some of his work that I had 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.480 the opportunity to be around something that inspired me, which 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.400 was as a kid with a light, right, There's a 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.400 lot that comes along with being inspired, and we got 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.680 to make sure you find the right lights. Right. I 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.480 feel like I learned a lot of great things over there, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.920 and for the most part, I was able to grow 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:48.559 into myself and he provided an opportunity. It was a 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.560 group that he was working with called Melodic and that 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.480 group was consistent of four members, which was Jay Bug, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:12:01.920 Little Fish, and JAHI, which was which is jimya Oukle's brother, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.280 and our brother Trey and we you know. It was 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.800 kind of I felt like the eye ball that joined 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.760 the group because they already had a four main group 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.760 and I was like the fifth member. But now that 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.959 I'm older, I never asked anybody about this. I would 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.600 like to know why did they accept me. I kind 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.000 of felt like maybe because my cousin had, you know, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.040 you know, previous success in the industry and had relationships 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.760 and I don't really know politics behind it, but they 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:28.720 accepted me. I kind of feel like the eyeball, But 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.920 I felt like I eventually fit in a group and 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.559 we went on to travel to multiple different labels, auditioned 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.439 for him, sung for them, nobody signed us. So but 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.800 we came across one label that thought the three of us, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.280 which was Jay Bug, myself and Fizz, they thought we 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.240 were pretty dope and they felt like we were just 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.040 missing the right lead singer because they felt like the 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.680 other two guys maybe looked a little too older for 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.320 the group, which I thought I didn't really think about 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.079 it to now, but maybe they did. They looked a 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.280 little bit more mature than we did. And we had 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.480 the three of us had a chemistry, which those two 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.880 guys went on to start another group called Final Four 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.000 and got signed to MCA. So I was happy that 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.559 they had that experience, but B two K actually went 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:07.960 on to do our thing. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.280 So you you three, this was prior to a Mario. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.000 This is prior to a Mario getting in the group. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:14.640 We went through it. We went through about a good 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.480 year and a half two years before we met a Mari. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.600 So so you have the three of you guys and 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.640 they're like, let's search for a lead and then where 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:24.599 does a Marion come in? 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:25.960 But that's a good I'm gonna give you some some 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.280 more contacts and give you some more details, so that 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.679 label had actually seen the vision was Epic Records at 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.600 the time, I believe. I don't want to get caught 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.040 up with titles, but I know David Fisher was probably 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.360 either the president or vice president or you know, the 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.520 really top executive, along with poly Anthony rest in peace, Polly, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.000 we love you, Thank you for everything, and Tommy Mantola 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.320 was a top guy. And we were very fortunate enough 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.679 to meet with Max Goose. We love you Max, I 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.040 can't forget Max. Max was the one of the main 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.680 champions for B two K, you know, to who brought 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.719 in Davey Frish and Jamie Frisch and signed Backstreet Boy. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.480 So that was pretty cool too, And so we had 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.720 people with experience of boys groups and it was crazy 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.880 because the negotiations went back and forth, you know that 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.520 woman and they was interested in the signing. That's and 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.800 they were interested, but they didn't have the fourth member. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.240 And I remember there was an artist I don't know 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.760 his name, but it was along the lines of like, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.760 I don't know, so I don't want to butcher it, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.840 but I think Keith Sweat having solo artists that potentially 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.280 they was thinking about putting them in a group. That 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:36.280 guy never popped up. Mm hm, oh yeah, that's looking good. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:37.440 So that guy never. 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:40.720 Listen, we're gonna eat together. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.280 It's gonna take it. It's gonna take a brother back. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.120 There was a you don't put the seasoning in. 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.720 Well, I mean, I think everybody likes their own season 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.360 so I wasn't. I wasn't here. Let me get your ball. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.880 Okay, I'm watching you. You know the way you eat it. Okay, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.920 if you get season it however you like. I mean, 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.840 you know, I'm gonna be nice today. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.840 I cook the news. I'm gonna let you put I 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.640 do put butter and seasons on. Those are like my 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.760 main two ingredients, you know what I'm saying. Like, those 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.360 are my go to seasons. Man, you put that, you 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.600 or anything, but but yo. So that so that that 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.440 artist never popped up. So it was three of us 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.120 just lingering around. So I remember meeting a Marion at 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.880 Marcus Houston's eighteenth birthday party, and I thought he was dope. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.040 He was like I think he had his timbering boots on, 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.040 he his corn rolls, you know what I'm saying. He 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.400 was a background dancing for Before Dark and you know, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.240 thank you, and he was he's like a background that's 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.600 for before dark. He had his cameos, he was doing 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.080 his thing, and I like the fact that he was 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.600 already in the industry. He wasn't afraid to get in 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.200 the circle. Some people be afraid to get in that 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.280 circle and dances be dancing and they make the circle 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.040 at like a party or something of that. So I 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.800 was like, Yo, this guy is cool. So I remember 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.120 me and the guys we were having a conversation where 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.440 he's like, yeah, we did to chop it up with him. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.600 I'm not sure if we all walked off, like to 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.720 the side, and maybe we walked in the bathroom or 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.200 we walked out. I don't remember all the defining details, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.200 but what I do remember is we had a conversation 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.360 with the guy and he wasn't opposed to joining the group, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.280 being a solo artist already or pursuing his his dreams. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.280 We thought he would be a good fit because at 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.240 this time we were already on the radar of the labels. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.880 Yeah right, but he says, didn't have the official signature. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.600 You have the we have the Fisher signature deal. So 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.120 I typically take I used the season that maybe too 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.040 much for maybe for I take this. If you need 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.280 more seasons, I how to take this, and of course 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:26.960 I take the butter. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.240 Always take the butter. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:29.600 Okay, typically put the butter in. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.000 Oh you put the butter in first? Yeah, okay. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.280 So o Marion, at the time you meet him, he's 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.800 he's a singer slash dancer or is he mainly a dance. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.000 He was actually a rapper and he was he was 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.800 a rapper. Box of weeds to eat, the feed, the greedy's. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.880 He had his little rappers all you do. But A 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.960 Mario was lit. Mario has always been lit, you know 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.880 what I'm saying. He had his Pops commercial, he had, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.040 he was you know, he was working with his company 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.440 called I think it was called Abrams or something like that. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.200 And am I right was Abrams? Yeah? It was as 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.600 got but uh, you know, amar was ma was dope. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.639 Me and a Mari actually really got along. And I 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.040 thought it was cool that he actually joined our group. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:14.520 He right should have puted him out a little soiler, so, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.639 you know, but I thought it was dope Mario. Eventually, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.320 after we had that meeting in the bathroom or in 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:25.199 the hallway wherever, that was Marion wound up coming up 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.680 to the house and we like kind of like dance 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.480 for him in there, and we did our little routines. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.399 We showed our we we displayed our talents, and he 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:36.200 displayed his talents. Then we started immediately learning routines together. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.879 And as we started to look like it was a 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:59.119 the chemistry was there. I think the biggest thing that 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.560 we like at that time was was vocally, So it 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.720 took some time for us going to you know, really 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.520 learn how to use our instruments. You know what I mean. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.800 I believe everybody can sing, but you just got to 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.359 train your voice, you know what I'm saying, and then 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.159 and then and then find out what's what's good for you. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.560 And I think there's a lot of artists that came, 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.480 you know, through this business that actually, if I'm gonna 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.200 put just a little bit on this because us I 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:22.960 forgot I think that. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.640 So how long did it take for you guys from 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.840 from bringing a marian on practicing and exploring your vocals together. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.800