Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been very vocal, and I've
Speaker 1: been holding back with a lot of restraints because I've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of work on myself and I
Speaker 1: just really just you know, i'd like to say, and
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say, and I'm not afraid to say,
Speaker 1: and I'm not afraid to say.
Speaker 2: So what do you have us eating today? As you
Speaker 2: broke dish?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, I can only remember when
Speaker 1: it was brought to me, like it was either like
Speaker 1: my main dish was top right and it was hard
Speaker 1: for me to choose because it was either the top rhyman.
Speaker 1: It was either you know that egg sandwich, you know
Speaker 1: what the bread or like a tuna sandwich or a
Speaker 1: peanut butter swich. But I feel like I hate to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we went back and forth. Just so you
Speaker 3: guys know, a lot of our guests shoes top Ramen.
Speaker 3: I'm always like be towing top Ramen.
Speaker 1: It's the cheapest a couple of noodles.
Speaker 3: It's because everyone's dish goes into a cookbook and I
Speaker 3: know that top Ramen is it's a popular So the
Speaker 3: only time I accept top Ramen on the show is
Speaker 3: if you have tweaked it.
Speaker 2: But Rad says that he does tweak. Kids, what do
Speaker 2: you do to yours?
Speaker 1: I mean there's times I've put tuning in it. There's
Speaker 1: times that I put eggs in it. There's times and
Speaker 1: I just put a lot of different seasons just to
Speaker 1: try to figure out like karaokey sauce, oyster sauce. Try,
Speaker 1: you just try and freed the different noodles. But like,
Speaker 1: for real, I would love to come back because I
Speaker 1: have a few other broke dishes now that like, because
Speaker 1: you wheels are turning right, yeah, because you opened up that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you opened up that that that you know, that
Speaker 4: that portal of what it was like to be broke, Like, well,
Speaker 4: what the fuck was niggas eating like motherfucker's eating like
Speaker 4: Jack in the box tacos for a dollar?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I still love those, by the way, I still eat them.
Speaker 3: I still eat like That's like when I go to
Speaker 3: dragone Crack and people are like, what do you want,
Speaker 3: I'm like curly fries and some to two for one tacos.
Speaker 1: Right, you talked about never forgetting where you came from,
Speaker 1: so for real, for real, but yeah, that's why but
Speaker 1: now that I know that you're building a cookbook, you know,
Speaker 1: I would love to come back. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because we have a bunch of I.
Speaker 3: Just think that that recipe, Well, why don't you start
Speaker 3: us off a right cool all y'all listeners, y'all know
Speaker 3: how the top ramen goes.
Speaker 2: You boil the hot water and uh you go from there.
Speaker 1: So it's real simple. We're gonna keep it light and simple.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you this, when your boy was,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing how many y'all like tasting us this
Speaker 1: season just by itself. Really, yes, the season is good.
Speaker 1: Mind of that chicken season in the cup with the
Speaker 1: little squares, oh the bollion listen called I don't cook.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, there's men many times
Speaker 1: right just when in my mom's cap, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put this in here and put this
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna do two or one?
Speaker 1: Always better?
Speaker 2: It was always better. So I had a guess.
Speaker 3: One time they said that they would save half of
Speaker 3: the they would eat a one pack and they would
Speaker 3: save half for like lunch.
Speaker 2: And half for break.
Speaker 1: Y'all, break break the second break.
Speaker 2: Don't dump that little seasoning.
Speaker 1: Pack ship is in there. Well, we got to get
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, ra isn't in the kitchen a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're not in the kitchen as okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: So I have another question. When you do your ramen.
Speaker 3: I like to do my ramen where it's like cook
Speaker 3: not all the way mushy, and then I drain it
Speaker 3: a little bit so it's a little more dry.
Speaker 2: How do you do yours?
Speaker 1: It depends on how I feel that day, right. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I will completely drain it and I'll put some butter
Speaker 1: in which I'm gonna put some butter in, some singing salt,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe an egg. I typically I drain it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll drain it and I put it like a
Speaker 1: lot of butter, and I just have it like really
Speaker 1: really dry. And sometimes I just like I leave the
Speaker 1: soup because I think the soup is pretty good too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I like the soup. But after having ramen
Speaker 3: like eight hundred and million, thousand, kazillion times, I do
Speaker 3: the draining and I do the butter mixture. But you've
Speaker 3: seen so much success in your life, are I like
Speaker 3: to go back to the time when you were eating
Speaker 3: this ramen. Okay, So with you, you have an interesting
Speaker 3: story because I'm assuming you were broke before you were successful,
Speaker 3: and then there was a period in the middle. I'm
Speaker 3: sure we're dipped a little bit and then it picked
Speaker 3: up again. So which part of the Ramen story do
Speaker 3: we get today?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. You get the story from
Speaker 1: the Ramen when I was just starting out, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you probably get that from most people in this
Speaker 1: industry if you are not financially Uh, what's the word?
Speaker 1: I want to Financial literacy is everything in this business.
Speaker 1: So a lot of artists have to have took a
Speaker 1: dip and and splurage and ran through money sitting and
Speaker 1: all to manage it with credit and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. So I've definitely experienced some some heart into
Speaker 1: my life Where've ran through some money and I've been
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be able to, you know, continue to
Speaker 1: move forward, you know what I'm saying. With with learning
Speaker 1: how to manage money and continue to grow with funds,
Speaker 1: I get like, if you get a hundred K, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, don't just run through it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You can you can actually invest
Speaker 1: on a hundred thousand and turn it turn to five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, turn that five hundred thousand into you know,
Speaker 1: to five million. So you know, I recall my mom
Speaker 1: always being gone at work, and you know, as a kid,
Speaker 1: you're growing up and you really don't know how to
Speaker 1: cook for yourself. So the easiest thing you can do,
Speaker 1: you can take some ramen, keep the water up, and
Speaker 1: then you know you can cook. You can actually cook
Speaker 1: the ramen the microwave, you know. But the easiest thing
Speaker 1: for me is I learned, you know, to to boil
Speaker 1: the water and put the ramen in there. And I
Speaker 1: just used to get really really creative and and eat
Speaker 1: that ramen and remember as it and and think as
Speaker 1: a as a kid, what do I want to do
Speaker 1: when I when I get older. On top of like
Speaker 1: waiting for cartoons to come on and different things like that,
Speaker 1: but like, there was always this sense of destiny that
Speaker 1: I had upon my life, and I feel less for everyone,
Speaker 1: you know that that comes to this earth. I had
Speaker 1: a sense of destiny. It's just really all about figuring
Speaker 1: out figuring you know, you kind to kind of grow
Speaker 1: into your your spirituality. You have to grow into your enlightenments.
Speaker 1: You have to grow into your discipline. You have to
Speaker 1: embrace the world. But at the same time, excuse me,
Speaker 1: you have to learn how to be in the world,
Speaker 1: not of the world. So for me, you know, this,
Speaker 1: this dish represents like humility. For me, it represents it
Speaker 1: takes me back to the time when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: just cooking that, thinking and dreaming, you know. And even
Speaker 1: at times as as I got older, I still found
Speaker 1: myself eating ram and I wound up living in China.
Speaker 1: When I was well, I had some success. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of success.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, before you went to China.
Speaker 3: But when you were saying that, you were thinking about
Speaker 3: your destiny And while making this, did you think, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a music star or a dancer?
Speaker 2: Like what were you thinking when you were thinking about
Speaker 2: your desk? You know, do you need to turn that up?
Speaker 1: And I turned it down actually because I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: them want to cook it for a little bit. I
Speaker 1: it's a really good question. I would definitely say what
Speaker 1: a child likes faith. There was a lot of times
Speaker 1: my mind just wondered, and I felt like as I
Speaker 1: got older, I finally had to kind of like dig
Speaker 1: get back into what I used to like or what
Speaker 1: I used to think about, And that's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to remember. What do you used to think about and
Speaker 1: dream of as a kid. I think one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things for me it was always having a major platform.
Speaker 1: It was always being a voice, It was always being
Speaker 1: a light. It was always making people laugh. Right, So
Speaker 1: at a young age, I recalled being like I would
Speaker 1: I learned trying to drive a stick shift at like
Speaker 1: eight nine years old, right, So I would take the
Speaker 1: car to the store, to the Mexican market. But a
Speaker 1: lot of times my mom would tell me, she remember
Speaker 1: that there would be times that I would go to
Speaker 1: the Mexim mark and I'll be like acting like I
Speaker 1: was singing Spanish and you know, imitating different Spanish songs
Speaker 1: that I heard and dancing. And you know, for me,
Speaker 1: that sparked the level of entertainment because I wasn't afraid
Speaker 1: to you know, yeah, and be the eyeball in the room,
Speaker 1: per se and uh, you know, to give it, to
Speaker 1: give a person a chuckle or laugh. It brought me
Speaker 1: great joy that I was able to give them joy.
Speaker 1: So I think that's something that I actually held onto.
Speaker 1: Being a class clown and different things like that. But
Speaker 1: once again, I say this dish actually really represents like
Speaker 1: the times when I you know, didn't know what to cook.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it was the it was the
Speaker 1: cheapest thing to buy. There was there was times where
Speaker 1: you know, money was just really really short. That's like
Speaker 1: a go to.
Speaker 3: But now you said that when you were when you
Speaker 3: were a child, but you lacked faith, Like why would
Speaker 3: you say that, say black face?
Speaker 2: Yeah you said like black face. I thought you did
Speaker 2: because I was like, that's interesting that you said.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe at manage, maybe I did like
Speaker 1: some faith. I mean, you know, I mean if I
Speaker 1: did say that, I would say to this that your
Speaker 1: favor is challenge and you may be leaving something as
Speaker 1: a kid, but you have people around telling you that
Speaker 1: you can't be a scientist. Oh that's gonna take you
Speaker 1: thirty two years, Like damn, thanks for discouraging me. But
Speaker 1: they gave me the truth at the same time. So
Speaker 1: it's like, but a kid can't process that at a
Speaker 1: young age, right, You kind of need that pat on
Speaker 1: the back and say yeah, you can do it. And
Speaker 1: if you do, see you know that the interest is
Speaker 1: really there for a kid. You have to continue to
Speaker 1: put those roadblocks in front of them for the sake
Speaker 1: and continue to elevate if that's what it is, because
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of us could be. I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone should know physics to the highest level.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're all scientists. I feel like we're
Speaker 1: all super intelligence, the way our bodies are made, the
Speaker 1: way the universe works, And I just feel like we've
Speaker 1: been taught to be dumbed down versus to be super enlightened.
Speaker 1: And I feel like when I look at countries like
Speaker 1: China and how they brought seven hundred million people out
Speaker 1: of poverty in thirty years, it's that's how you empower culture, right,
Speaker 1: And you wonder why the the end, the Chinese n
Speaker 1: is the number one currency in the world, which I
Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen eventually anyway, because the
Speaker 1: way America's running their currency. So that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2: That's a definite whole of the conversation.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you started B two K,
Speaker 3: when you got into B two.
Speaker 1: K, it's a good question, probably the thirteen and a half, fourteen,
Speaker 1: maybe thirteen and a.
Speaker 3: Half, So what led to that? So you're eight, so
Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm gathering is like, you're eight years old.
Speaker 3: You're definitely not your typical eight year old I don't know,
Speaker 3: eight or nine year olds driving stick shifted cars.
Speaker 2: And yeah, rolling out in the street.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how did how did how did that nine
Speaker 3: year old self transition into like a B two K moment?
Speaker 1: That that's a good question. You know, I have a
Speaker 1: family in the industry, you know, I would definitely say
Speaker 1: that was a segue, that was a that was definitely
Speaker 1: a path of bridge those my cousin okay, right, and
Speaker 1: my brother was I would say my brother was really
Speaker 1: more interested in the music industry per se than me.
Speaker 1: So there was times where he brought me along for
Speaker 1: his talent shows and we had this little group we
Speaker 1: call called brothers Too, And you know, just to give
Speaker 1: like people a little context of my life. You know,
Speaker 1: my mom was going through and beuse some relationship at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was in and at a foster home.
Speaker 1: So around the ages of twelve and after thirteen, my
Speaker 1: cousin Christus was able to take over guardianship for me,
Speaker 1: and I think it was pretty cool that just kind
Speaker 1: of like growing up and seeing different groups and different
Speaker 1: being inspired by some of his work that I had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be around something that inspired me, which
Speaker 1: was as a kid with a light, right, There's a
Speaker 1: lot that comes along with being inspired, and we got
Speaker 1: to make sure you find the right lights. Right. I
Speaker 1: feel like I learned a lot of great things over there,
Speaker 1: and for the most part, I was able to grow
Speaker 1: into myself and he provided an opportunity. It was a
Speaker 1: group that he was working with called Melodic and that
Speaker 1: group was consistent of four members, which was Jay Bug,
Speaker 1: Little Fish, and JAHI, which was which is jimya Oukle's brother,
Speaker 1: and our brother Trey and we you know. It was
Speaker 1: kind of I felt like the eye ball that joined
Speaker 1: the group because they already had a four main group
Speaker 1: and I was like the fifth member. But now that
Speaker 1: I'm older, I never asked anybody about this. I would
Speaker 1: like to know why did they accept me. I kind
Speaker 1: of felt like maybe because my cousin had, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, previous success in the industry and had relationships
Speaker 1: and I don't really know politics behind it, but they
Speaker 1: accepted me. I kind of feel like the eyeball, But
Speaker 1: I felt like I eventually fit in a group and
Speaker 1: we went on to travel to multiple different labels, auditioned
Speaker 1: for him, sung for them, nobody signed us. So but
Speaker 1: we came across one label that thought the three of us,
Speaker 1: which was Jay Bug, myself and Fizz, they thought we
Speaker 1: were pretty dope and they felt like we were just
Speaker 1: missing the right lead singer because they felt like the
Speaker 1: other two guys maybe looked a little too older for
Speaker 1: the group, which I thought I didn't really think about
Speaker 1: it to now, but maybe they did. They looked a
Speaker 1: little bit more mature than we did. And we had
Speaker 1: the three of us had a chemistry, which those two
Speaker 1: guys went on to start another group called Final Four
Speaker 1: and got signed to MCA. So I was happy that
Speaker 1: they had that experience, but B two K actually went
Speaker 1: on to do our thing.
Speaker 2: So you you three, this was prior to a Mario.
Speaker 1: This is prior to a Mario getting in the group.
Speaker 1: We went through it. We went through about a good
Speaker 1: year and a half two years before we met a Mari.
Speaker 3: So so you have the three of you guys and
Speaker 3: they're like, let's search for a lead and then where
Speaker 3: does a Marion come in?
Speaker 1: But that's a good I'm gonna give you some some
Speaker 1: more contacts and give you some more details, so that
Speaker 1: label had actually seen the vision was Epic Records at
Speaker 1: the time, I believe. I don't want to get caught
Speaker 1: up with titles, but I know David Fisher was probably
Speaker 1: either the president or vice president or you know, the
Speaker 1: really top executive, along with poly Anthony rest in peace, Polly,
Speaker 1: we love you, Thank you for everything, and Tommy Mantola
Speaker 1: was a top guy. And we were very fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to meet with Max Goose. We love you Max, I
Speaker 1: can't forget Max. Max was the one of the main
Speaker 1: champions for B two K, you know, to who brought
Speaker 1: in Davey Frish and Jamie Frisch and signed Backstreet Boy.
Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool too, And so we had
Speaker 1: people with experience of boys groups and it was crazy
Speaker 1: because the negotiations went back and forth, you know that
Speaker 1: woman and they was interested in the signing. That's and
Speaker 1: they were interested, but they didn't have the fourth member.
Speaker 1: And I remember there was an artist I don't know
Speaker 1: his name, but it was along the lines of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I don't want to butcher it,
Speaker 1: but I think Keith Sweat having solo artists that potentially
Speaker 1: they was thinking about putting them in a group. That
Speaker 1: guy never popped up. Mm hm, oh yeah, that's looking good.
Speaker 1: So that guy never.
Speaker 2: Listen, we're gonna eat together.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take it. It's gonna take a brother back.
Speaker 2: There was a you don't put the seasoning in.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think everybody likes their own season
Speaker 1: so I wasn't. I wasn't here. Let me get your ball.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm watching you. You know the way you eat it. Okay,
Speaker 3: if you get season it however you like. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna be nice today.
Speaker 1: I cook the news. I'm gonna let you put I
Speaker 1: do put butter and seasons on. Those are like my
Speaker 1: main two ingredients, you know what I'm saying. Like, those
Speaker 1: are my go to seasons. Man, you put that, you
Speaker 1: or anything, but but yo. So that so that that
Speaker 1: artist never popped up. So it was three of us
Speaker 1: just lingering around. So I remember meeting a Marion at
Speaker 1: Marcus Houston's eighteenth birthday party, and I thought he was dope.
Speaker 1: He was like I think he had his timbering boots on,
Speaker 1: he his corn rolls, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: was a background dancing for Before Dark and you know,
Speaker 1: thank you, and he was he's like a background that's
Speaker 1: for before dark. He had his cameos, he was doing
Speaker 1: his thing, and I like the fact that he was
Speaker 1: already in the industry. He wasn't afraid to get in
Speaker 1: the circle. Some people be afraid to get in that
Speaker 1: circle and dances be dancing and they make the circle
Speaker 1: at like a party or something of that. So I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy is cool. So I remember
Speaker 1: me and the guys we were having a conversation where
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, we did to chop it up with him.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we all walked off, like to
Speaker 1: the side, and maybe we walked in the bathroom or
Speaker 1: we walked out. I don't remember all the defining details,
Speaker 1: but what I do remember is we had a conversation
Speaker 1: with the guy and he wasn't opposed to joining the group,
Speaker 1: being a solo artist already or pursuing his his dreams.
Speaker 1: We thought he would be a good fit because at
Speaker 1: this time we were already on the radar of the labels.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, but he says, didn't have the official signature.
Speaker 1: You have the we have the Fisher signature deal. So
Speaker 1: I typically take I used the season that maybe too
Speaker 1: much for maybe for I take this. If you need
Speaker 1: more seasons, I how to take this, and of course
Speaker 1: I take the butter.
Speaker 2: Always take the butter.
Speaker 1: Okay, typically put the butter in.
Speaker 2: Oh you put the butter in first? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So o Marion, at the time you meet him, he's
Speaker 3: he's a singer slash dancer or is he mainly a dance.
Speaker 1: He was actually a rapper and he was he was
Speaker 1: a rapper. Box of weeds to eat, the feed, the greedy's.
Speaker 1: He had his little rappers all you do. But A
Speaker 1: Mario was lit. Mario has always been lit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He had his Pops commercial, he had,
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was working with his company
Speaker 1: called I think it was called Abrams or something like that.
Speaker 1: And am I right was Abrams? Yeah? It was as
Speaker 1: got but uh, you know, amar was ma was dope.
Speaker 1: Me and a Mari actually really got along. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was cool that he actually joined our group.
Speaker 1: He right should have puted him out a little soiler, so,
Speaker 1: you know, but I thought it was dope Mario. Eventually,
Speaker 1: after we had that meeting in the bathroom or in
Speaker 1: the hallway wherever, that was Marion wound up coming up
Speaker 1: to the house and we like kind of like dance
Speaker 1: for him in there, and we did our little routines.
Speaker 1: We showed our we we displayed our talents, and he
Speaker 1: displayed his talents. Then we started immediately learning routines together.
Speaker 1: And as we started to look like it was a
Speaker 1: the chemistry was there. I think the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: we like at that time was was vocally, So it
Speaker 1: took some time for us going to you know, really
Speaker 1: learn how to use our instruments. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I believe everybody can sing, but you just got to
Speaker 1: train your voice, you know what I'm saying, and then
Speaker 1: and then and then find out what's what's good for you.
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of artists that came,
Speaker 1: you know, through this business that actually, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put just a little bit on this because us I
Speaker 1: forgot I think that.
Speaker 3: So how long did it take for you guys from
Speaker 3: from bringing a marian on practicing and exploring your vocals together.
Speaker 2: How long did it take before you guys got signed?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, just like the first group, which was
Speaker 1: called Melodic, it was about five of us in the group.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was the fifth member, the awkward guy.
Speaker 1: But after many people, hey, after many people pass up
Speaker 1: on us, you know, eventually we went to that little phase,
Speaker 1: that down period where we you know, had our hopes
Speaker 1: of hot things and there was a member was going
Speaker 1: to come in and we got the label They're kind
Speaker 1: of interesting us already and then that.
Speaker 2: Just dies, right so and is Crystal managing you or yet?
Speaker 1: Yep? And then and then we come back from what
Speaker 1: I recall, we we we get a Mari and then
Speaker 1: we go through all of the labels again, seez right,
Speaker 1: they all passed. There was a level of interest where
Speaker 1: Arister Records and La Re was courting us for some
Speaker 1: time because Louis Silence was involved Rest in Peace to
Speaker 1: Little Silence, and it was really interesting to the fact
Speaker 1: that they still passed on us. So now we still
Speaker 1: we're still in this same like entanglement with Epic Records,
Speaker 1: and you know, we would see them at different industry
Speaker 1: events because BJK step kept going and now we got
Speaker 1: the four. We still even though you're to sign us,
Speaker 1: we're still moving now.
Speaker 2: When you guys are still performing, where we still perform
Speaker 2: wherever we.
Speaker 1: Can we building a buzz when the world start, we
Speaker 1: do word up magazines. You know. Now we were in
Speaker 1: vow Wow's Ghetto Girls video. Now we're in hold on
Speaker 1: where we signed, Max, where we sign I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to call you after this. Were we signed when we
Speaker 1: did the Ghetto Girls video. I don't know we got
Speaker 1: to come back to that. That's different because but we
Speaker 1: we did so much to the label to where we
Speaker 1: did so much, So when we came back to the label,
Speaker 1: I remember meeting like Tiss Williams who managed three O
Speaker 1: wor overs Ol Train, and that was set up by
Speaker 1: management because they had relationships and they let us meet.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm older, I realized that meeting was
Speaker 1: what led to Marvin Pearton because we've been circling around
Speaker 1: this label for a long time. Marvin Peer had a little,
Speaker 1: i think a higher status than maybe Max Goos, and
Speaker 1: maybe it was in a different lane in the company
Speaker 1: than David Person. But somehow he had the ear of
Speaker 1: Polyantheony Polly's right under Tommy. So somehow, I don't know
Speaker 1: how it happened, but we wind up performing for the
Speaker 1: entire label inside of five point fifty meterson in New York.
Speaker 1: Because everybody's like Who the fuck is this group? Why
Speaker 1: are they fucking like? Yea, what is all this energy
Speaker 1: about this group? We wound up shutting the building down.
Speaker 2: So like other other departments are coming over to.
Speaker 1: Everybody that was in. Sony came in the lunch cafeteria.
Speaker 1: They set up a stage for the actually spent money
Speaker 1: on his say, flew us out, and you know, they
Speaker 1: were still courting us, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: finally we got that opportunity to perform for Time Ontold
Speaker 1: and Tim mototally was like, you know, we performed him
Speaker 1: by ourself and he he pulled the trigger. But it
Speaker 1: was a crazy journey, like you know, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It took some years, you know, but in nineteen nine nine,
Speaker 1: I remember getting that deal. I had tears in my eyes.
Speaker 1: It was it was, it was we were so excited
Speaker 1: because it was something that we worked so hard for,
Speaker 1: especially at the time where we felt like the label,
Speaker 1: our production company was going to drop us. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't really want to, uh, you know, they didn't
Speaker 1: think it was going to be able to happen because
Speaker 1: they spent so much money to get us to what
Speaker 1: we got. There was times where we even added a
Speaker 1: fifth member from another group called Third Story to be
Speaker 1: a part of the group.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you guys were really beating
Speaker 3: the pavements. So when you get your deal, you get signed. Now,
Speaker 3: B two K, what year was it that you guys?
Speaker 3: You got signed in ninety nine? But what year was
Speaker 3: the tipping point where everybody was like, look gay everywhere?
Speaker 3: Oh nice, sorry, slurp them ramins.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: B two K kind of like popped on the scene
Speaker 3: and exploded. It wasn't like it wasn't like a gradual
Speaker 3: like even you know, like when you look at Rihanna's career,
Speaker 3: Rihanna was dropping records before Umbrella.
Speaker 2: And then Umbrella took it and it just you know,
Speaker 2: B two K kind of went right away. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: That's a good I mean wrong. Well, Rihanna's story is different.
Speaker 1: Rihanna got signed by jay Z out the Gate, she
Speaker 1: was doing challenge shows. B two K was already in
Speaker 1: the industry.
Speaker 2: But but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It because of the people that we had behind us,
Speaker 1: immature as the Chris Stokes and stuff, so we had
Speaker 1: a little bit more accents. So I feel like it
Speaker 1: didn't It may appear for some people like it happened overnight,
Speaker 1: but for us, it didn't.
Speaker 3: We were Lise saying from the time you signed, though,
Speaker 3: from the time you signed. I'm not talking about before
Speaker 3: because it sounds like you guys ran a marathon. I
Speaker 3: feel like when you signed. How how fast it go
Speaker 3: from signing to multi places?
Speaker 1: That's a really good question, but I'm to put to
Speaker 1: put you right there and then like the little middle park,
Speaker 1: because we were lit, we got a eight we have,
Speaker 1: we got we got offered a superstar deal, not a
Speaker 1: little development deal, so they already knew we was gonna pop. Okay,
Speaker 1: So for people who'd just seen us in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, after we got our deal at Night late
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, fourth Quarter Night nineteen niney nine, we
Speaker 1: spent that whole two thousand working on an album You
Speaker 1: Feel Me, So it was already you know, they put
Speaker 1: millions behind it, so it was gonna pop. They already
Speaker 1: knew the group was dope. It was really just about
Speaker 1: finding the right records. So to give you that between
Speaker 1: nineteen between nineteen ninety nine we got signed fourth Quarter,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I told them November December somewhere
Speaker 1: around there, spent that year recording. Our first album came
Speaker 1: out in March twelve, two thousand and one, and they
Speaker 1: had to put the singles number. It was thirteen weeks
Speaker 1: at number one. It's so over a half a million copy?
Speaker 2: What single was that again?
Speaker 1: Uh huh? And it was produced by Tricky Stewart. It
Speaker 1: even won us a buildble toward. But they pulled that
Speaker 1: record back because I believe they like a little special
Speaker 1: DVD with it, like it was a DVD with the
Speaker 1: video attention single, and they put it back because they
Speaker 1: wanted to say that for the album that was coming,
Speaker 1: that single would have want Probably I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know the sound scan today, but it probably went on
Speaker 1: to be a platinum single. And but during that time,
Speaker 1: it took us about six I could be wrong, three
Speaker 1: to six months to break that record. The visual really
Speaker 1: helped break the song, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know even though we you know,
Speaker 1: were urban group, we actually had a pop record, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were number one on the
Speaker 1: the you know, the Hot one hundreds for thirteen weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was that was some That was some big ship.
Speaker 1: And then you got the support of a billion dollar
Speaker 1: company spending millions behind you, You're going to get access
Speaker 1: to everything.
Speaker 2: Now was that so at the time?
Speaker 3: Now this is you know, the industry has been notorious
Speaker 3: for taking advantage of groups, or there have been groups
Speaker 3: that have been taken advantage of in the industry. So
Speaker 3: you guys are a young group of guys, your teenagers. Right,
Speaker 3: you get signed, you get this deal, but you do
Speaker 3: come from the industry. So I'm guessing your deal wasn't
Speaker 3: like a terrible deal, right.
Speaker 1: I believe B two K got a good deal, but
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, you know, you can't fought. You know,
Speaker 1: people prayers from lack of knowledge. Right. A lot of
Speaker 1: people want to fault the labels, like the way math
Speaker 1: is put together. It's like math magicians, right, the way
Speaker 1: the industry is put there there there, you know, at
Speaker 1: that old business model that is now different, is evolved
Speaker 1: in the change. A lot of these labels will say, hey,
Speaker 1: we spending all these millions of dollars and we make
Speaker 1: you into this, but we don't get any money from
Speaker 1: touring merchandise this. So that's why they started creating three sixties.
Speaker 1: So we got to think about the labels. If I
Speaker 1: was spending my money as a label, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: they got to recoup it now only they got to
Speaker 1: recoup it. I made this human being and I put
Speaker 1: this artist to where he's at. Right, So some people
Speaker 1: like to complain. You just have to look at the deal.
Speaker 1: You have to try to negotiate the best deal for yourself,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and take accountability for what
Speaker 1: type of deal that you signed. Don't be mad at
Speaker 1: at Listen. If I'm in business, you got some I
Speaker 1: don't want to say shisty, but you got some people
Speaker 1: that's gonna try to negotiate better than you. Right, negotiate
Speaker 1: if you feel that it's not at the time, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't take that deal. And that's when people say, hey,
Speaker 1: you sold out, right, Maybe you shouldn't have voted so early.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should have just went on like for example
Speaker 1: b TK, if we would have maybe held out a
Speaker 1: little bit longer, maybe we got to even better deal. Right,
Speaker 1: But you got to be grateful for the fact that
Speaker 1: we were able to get to a point, which is
Speaker 1: like very rare, right to get a superstar deal, not
Speaker 1: just a development deal or a little smarter like a
Speaker 1: really major deal and have the whole label and company
Speaker 1: behind you pushing you. That's a major you have to
Speaker 1: you have to blow up. If you don't blow up,
Speaker 1: people getting fired.
Speaker 3: Were you guys looking at the marketing budget going, yes,
Speaker 3: this is definitely a big deal.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, I didn't see it, but
Speaker 1: I knew better.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know.
Speaker 1: I knew it was I knew it was some millions.
Speaker 3: So what was the first thing you spent your money
Speaker 3: on once you saw like, what was the first big
Speaker 3: check you got?
Speaker 2: And what was the first thing you bought with it?
Speaker 1: I think it was probably like twenty five thousand, maybe
Speaker 1: probably some clothes?
Speaker 2: And what was your mom thinking at the time?
Speaker 1: You know, my mom wasn't around. She was dealing with
Speaker 1: her own you know, you know, trials and tribulations in
Speaker 1: life with relationships and whatnot. But she gave me the
Speaker 1: blessings to you know, there's something I always wanted to
Speaker 1: do as a kid, and she she she she gave
Speaker 1: me a blessings and she she allowed for me to
Speaker 1: you know, to move forward as as an adolescent because
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm at a young age between like
Speaker 1: thirteen and damn. I got my deal when I was
Speaker 1: like fifth, almost fourteen and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I met you around So it's so funny
Speaker 3: because we've had this talk when we're in it in
Speaker 3: Texas together and we can't remember how we met, which
Speaker 3: is crazy because you're the only you remember how you
Speaker 3: met and I still have no idea how.
Speaker 2: We met or whatever.
Speaker 3: But when I met you, I think it was it
Speaker 3: was after B two K, before before China, after B
Speaker 3: two K.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you were level B two K was leveling out.
Speaker 1: I would say, right, yeah, I believe at the time
Speaker 1: B K was dispanding the delay K was dis span.
Speaker 2: And when that happened, Marioan was solo. Oh yeah, Mario
Speaker 2: went mari was solo, and.
Speaker 1: That's around the time that we met. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so at that time, So you have now reached
Speaker 3: all this success. Now you go, you're on the roller
Speaker 3: coaster ride. What are your thoughts around the time when
Speaker 3: we knew each other?
Speaker 1: Sheesh? Just how fast things can change and adapting to
Speaker 1: you know, not having this machine that you were part of,
Speaker 1: that you helped build, you know, actually operating around you
Speaker 1: every day, even though you have the brand that you
Speaker 1: are those years. It took me time to understand what
Speaker 1: I got. Who am I What happened to me was
Speaker 1: this experience?
Speaker 2: How old were you though?
Speaker 3: You were like probably like twenties, right or not even,
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. Look how young you were
Speaker 3: when you have to You're looking You're thinking.
Speaker 2: Like, that's that's that's a crazy experience.
Speaker 1: What are you saying?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: But that's life for you, know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 1: we're I try not to get so caught up in
Speaker 1: the matrix, but we're amazing human beings. Like I always
Speaker 1: say that, Like I just think that we're like amazing
Speaker 1: human beings. And I just thank God for the experiences
Speaker 1: because when I look back at that time, I was like,
Speaker 1: the fuck was she thinking? Like how did you make
Speaker 1: it through? Excuse me? How did you make it through?
Speaker 1: But it was definitely a huge transition for me because
Speaker 1: you had to adapt to the money not coming all
Speaker 1: the time, you know, maybe getting a quarterly or or
Speaker 1: semi aily check. You know, I mean, you can't you
Speaker 1: can't sustain yourself over that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then you you're going you start to look back
Speaker 1: at the deal you want to get bitter, but you
Speaker 1: also have to think about, Okay, during that time, much
Speaker 1: money that you make, regardless if you feel like you
Speaker 1: can get your just do with this? Did you do
Speaker 1: right by that money? So you have to you have
Speaker 1: to start to say hell, you know what, you can't
Speaker 1: blame anybody in life. You have to learn and take
Speaker 1: accountability for yourself at a very young age, even though
Speaker 1: you want to, but you do because that at a
Speaker 1: young age, we're making our own decisions. So you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of grown, but you really don't have the knowledge
Speaker 1: you make them.
Speaker 3: But was there any when you were making those decisions
Speaker 3: on spending the money? Were there any adults or accountants
Speaker 3: or people saying, hey, man, don't do this, or was
Speaker 3: there any training on how to handle money.
Speaker 1: At that when you I believe out of all the
Speaker 1: guys I was, I was the one that people thought
Speaker 1: that yo er probably wouldn't blow his blow a lout
Speaker 1: his cash, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: ran through like three hundred thousand and six months. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying without any financial literacy. You really
Speaker 1: don't know how to handle that. And you're not trying
Speaker 1: to listen to anybody as well. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You want to go buy three cars and the motorcycle
Speaker 1: and you got all these fucking bills and you just
Speaker 1: keep paying money. Before you know what, shit's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like and I
Speaker 1: I really feel like with the money that beach K
Speaker 1: was generating, the money that was generated from beach K,
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like we we got our dress do.
Speaker 1: I feel like recently, you know, the tour that we
Speaker 1: that we just did, and I was very instrumental putting
Speaker 1: it and producing and bringing it together. I feel like
Speaker 1: that was a good payday for all of us because
Speaker 1: the tour did over twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow, and you had the production well, you had putting
Speaker 2: that whole thing together.
Speaker 1: Well. For me, when beach K did disband, it was
Speaker 1: really hard for me just to let go. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm invested in my life, my time sacrifice and I
Speaker 1: finished in school and so many different things like how
Speaker 1: are we not to how are we just alienated from
Speaker 1: the business and we can't go out there and capitalize
Speaker 1: on our success.
Speaker 2: What was the ultimate thing that disbands you guys?
Speaker 1: Definitely it would say the fact that you know, management
Speaker 1: and production companies were really influenced and had that opportunity
Speaker 1: to be able to tell the narrative to the labels
Speaker 1: and be able to go get that deal for Marion,
Speaker 1: which eventually doing it out to you know whatever, doing
Speaker 1: it too respectfully cool run over there. But it's like
Speaker 1: when you look at the artists like the Justin's and
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake's and you look at the Beyonce, there's no
Speaker 1: shots fire at Marion. I've always wanted to mari to
Speaker 1: be like that top solo artist, and I felt like
Speaker 1: how he came out, it was so much backlash that
Speaker 1: he received and so much misunderstanding that he that people
Speaker 1: didn't have of him in regards to how the deal
Speaker 1: was orchestrated. And I feel like a Mario is probably
Speaker 1: like a pond in that situation, because if we would
Speaker 1: have all left together collectively, we would have had our
Speaker 1: en sync no streams attached album, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: leaving lou Pearlman per se. So I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It always kind of like hunts me or if I
Speaker 1: go to like go down that lane, what it had been,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's the way it was designed, you know,
Speaker 1: and especially in the old and I'll be quick about
Speaker 1: this in the in the old boy group formula groups
Speaker 1: last one, two or three albums. You know, they attend
Speaker 1: to divide and conquer, and I just feel like B
Speaker 1: took should have been a lot stronger.
Speaker 2: How many albums DoD B two K put out?
Speaker 1: We put out a lot of product in such a
Speaker 1: in a short time span, but really two studio albums,
Speaker 1: a soundtrack that was considered an album or at least
Speaker 1: counted towards an album, uh, two remix albums, and some DVDs.
Speaker 1: So we kept a lot of content out which I
Speaker 1: thought was pretty cool and pretty unique for B two K.
Speaker 1: Just this is apply the demand. And I say this
Speaker 1: in closing, like just just growing older in the business.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to understand the business aspect of it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We love music, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, you have to understand the business aspect
Speaker 1: of the business. When you understand that that you can
Speaker 1: you know, you can really benefit from it. You know,
Speaker 1: for example, you have a company that invested I don't know,
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Let's say over ten to fifteen million,
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars into my brand. I'm still rasby to
Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, so you know, I mean whether they
Speaker 1: make money off me, which they still do to this day,
Speaker 1: you know, and I still make money too from from
Speaker 1: from my previous work. You know, you got to be
Speaker 1: thinking for the opportunity you got. And that's why I
Speaker 1: want to encourage a lot of artists to not you know,
Speaker 1: not bash these these investors that are part of a
Speaker 1: company that are shareholders because they want they don't want
Speaker 1: to lose money either, but they're taking a risk on
Speaker 1: someone they don't know if it's going to happen or
Speaker 1: not happen.
Speaker 2: It's very risky.
Speaker 1: You just got to, like, you know, get in the door,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and you know, and work your
Speaker 1: way to the top. I mean, we've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of artists from the jay Z to the Kanye's you know,
Speaker 1: to Nick Cannon's and so on and so forth. Bringing
Speaker 1: up Nick Cannon, I met you somehow your magazine because
Speaker 1: somebody wanted to connect me for a fucking interview with you.
Speaker 1: And you think it was that one of your partners
Speaker 1: and something. And I think I think you were I
Speaker 1: don't know something.
Speaker 2: It was something around the celebrity high air. But okay,
Speaker 2: so just I know we're going.
Speaker 3: To close out this interview soon. But so you're riding
Speaker 3: a wave. I got to take you back on your
Speaker 3: roller coaster. So now the group disbands. You both through
Speaker 3: pretty much all your money. What is he licks the
Speaker 3: b old guys, this is this is, by the way,
Speaker 3: for if you don't know ras this is Rasin is
Speaker 3: truest form talking about this is like probably one of
Speaker 3: the most realist and funniest people. I call him at
Speaker 3: whatever Yes, I just poured it. I call him at
Speaker 3: whatever time and super real. I will tell you more details,
Speaker 3: but it may be too much.
Speaker 1: But uh funny.
Speaker 3: But so you come down off the wave, okay, be
Speaker 3: to dismand you're now you don't have a lot of money,
Speaker 3: So what is your thinking process?
Speaker 1: Now that's good, that's a good question. So during that time,
Speaker 1: you have to say to yourself, like you have to
Speaker 1: remember who you are, what you accomplished, regardless if you
Speaker 1: are still trying to figure out your business, trying to
Speaker 1: collect royalties that are owed to you. You don't have
Speaker 1: that money at the moment, so you got to go
Speaker 1: figure this shit out. The fact that bet you Cad
Speaker 1: sustained a big enough brand. I was still able to,
Speaker 1: you know, get bookings ten grand here at five grand here, right,
Speaker 1: so that was cool.
Speaker 2: So you're like an entrepreneur selling yourself.
Speaker 1: Completely because I'm I'm my own commodity. So I always
Speaker 1: do how to create opportunities that I can bring value
Speaker 1: to as an entrepreneur, as a businessman, as an executive,
Speaker 1: I always create opportunities. Even if it wasn't me on
Speaker 1: the on the on the forefront. A lot of people
Speaker 1: want to be well, it's either me on the forefront
Speaker 1: or not. No, if Rasbey can come in and add value,
Speaker 1: help broke a deal and do this and do that,
Speaker 1: and I can slide myself in there where I get
Speaker 1: a little shine up here. Bro take that role. You know,
Speaker 1: some people don't didn't really take time to learn the business.
Speaker 1: I took time to learn the business. So I've always
Speaker 1: been able to sustain myself, like even on the even
Speaker 1: on the bad year, I'm still doing six figures.
Speaker 2: So how did how did you? How did you end
Speaker 2: up in China?
Speaker 3: Because by the way I went looking for you, you're
Speaker 3: like disappeared and then I was like, oh, he's in China.
Speaker 1: But this was before that was crazy. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: during during the breakup, you know BJK was still super hot, right,
Speaker 1: so you still at all the parties and still connected
Speaker 1: the network. And it's all about how you handle your network.
Speaker 1: You're your networking, should at work your network, they say, Right,
Speaker 1: there's some truth to that. NBA Nerly for those that
Speaker 1: are in the industry, and you know about the NBA Entertainmently,
Speaker 1: you know it was the place where US basketball US
Speaker 1: celebrities would go and we would play in our own
Speaker 1: version of the NBA E okay, right, So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of bit network networking going over there. For example,
Speaker 1: one of my guys, he's like, Yo, how would you
Speaker 1: like to perform at the Great Wall of China? Said, huh,
Speaker 1: I said, what you know? And he sent me over
Speaker 1: letter intent. It was a company called BTV Communications. They
Speaker 1: wound up hooking up with how how Uplinger, who produced
Speaker 1: a live a concerts. So this was like some huge shit.
Speaker 1: I tried to get the boys to be a part
Speaker 1: of it, but they weren't really interested, or maybe they
Speaker 1: couldn't hear me, or it was just a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on, so that didn't go through. It fell through.
Speaker 1: They put up pressure releases that I was going to
Speaker 1: be a part of the show. I was the Events
Speaker 1: Houston Bassador. I was going to host the show, and
Speaker 1: last minute they were telling me, you get your deal done.
Speaker 1: Get your deal done, because they're gonna they're running out
Speaker 1: of money and they're gonna sell the show to another
Speaker 1: promoter and he may not want to honor the deal
Speaker 1: that we had previously. They wind up by honoring that deal.
Speaker 1: I wound up calling a really big lawyer and putting
Speaker 1: out a boycott letter, which hit them hard, which brought
Speaker 1: them back to the table to negotiate. You gotta play bahrdball.
Speaker 2: Sometime you'd play a lot of you got to.
Speaker 1: But it got them. I bought one of the biggest lawyers.
Speaker 1: He was actually Chinese and American. It was pretty cool
Speaker 1: how I did this one. And you know, some people
Speaker 1: can get You can bring a lawyer and they can
Speaker 1: sell out or they cannot sell out. Some lawyers partner
Speaker 1: up with each other and they cash a check and
Speaker 1: they tell you whatever, right. But I felt like I
Speaker 1: found someone that was that really understood what I was
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. He worked out a deal where I
Speaker 1: could still go, but I couldn't bring all the people
Speaker 1: because I was before them, all the dancers, all the
Speaker 1: people that I promised and talked about we were going,
Speaker 1: and all the money they didn't want to pay me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck that deal. I don't work
Speaker 1: to go, you know, don't You said, kick your ball over.
Speaker 1: But I regret it because I would have been in
Speaker 1: someone's history books one hundred years from now from hosting
Speaker 1: the first concert at the Great Wall of China. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's parked the interest. Someone hit me up seven year
Speaker 1: or four years later about an opportunity to go to China.
Speaker 2: Okay, so is it happening one more time?
Speaker 1: Listen? I love you too, soon soon soon, as soon
Speaker 1: as it happens. Soon as I got that message because
Speaker 1: I was sad, bro I was on fucking one o
Speaker 1: six in Park telling everybody I was going to China,
Speaker 1: like that's embarrassing, you know what, And it don't happen.
Speaker 1: Uncle was like, yo, if it being God's will, you'll
Speaker 1: go back. Got that message on Facebook with the China
Speaker 1: never looked back.
Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. So then, how so it's what I love
Speaker 2: about you too?
Speaker 3: Is like I was like, you like disappeared and then
Speaker 3: you popped up on social media, and then you're already
Speaker 3: dominating on social media really fast. Like I love when
Speaker 3: you pop into a comment section and everybody gets all excited,
Speaker 3: Oh ship, rest in the comments, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 2: Right? Talking about right, talking about right?
Speaker 3: You know, they kind of get excited, like, all Ship,
Speaker 3: what's Rad's gonna say?
Speaker 1: Now? I'm very vocal, and I've been holding back with
Speaker 1: a lot of restraints because I've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of work on myself, and I just really just you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to say yeah, and I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid to say it, but I think that excites people.
Speaker 2: I think people get really excited.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, you know, the eyeball em just like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I mean, you know, for real, It's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I have the short
Speaker 1: end of the stick with the beach k deal. I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they decided to go on Marion solo.
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been the better bet.
Speaker 1: We're talking just no shade to Marion. I just feel
Speaker 1: like I would have been the better bet, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things a lot of qualities
Speaker 1: that I have that I feel like, you know, it
Speaker 1: takes to be a to sustain in a solo career.
Speaker 1: He does. He's done very well for what he's been given.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I never had that opportunity right
Speaker 1: and I feel like what I've done, I took the
Speaker 1: long road to carve out the space that I have now,
Speaker 1: which brings me the Bad Boys Season two, which is
Speaker 1: the hottest networking Towns network.
Speaker 2: This is your baby, this is your creation.
Speaker 1: Well no, it's not my creation. This is not Natalie
Speaker 1: Nune's creation, and let me and the Zeus Networks. I'm
Speaker 1: just happy to be able to be a producer on it,
Speaker 1: to be a star on the show. With that being said,
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a great opportunity because this
Speaker 1: show is so huge. You know, it's in everyone's face
Speaker 1: when it comes to our culture. So I feel like
Speaker 1: they'll be able to have this opportunity to be on
Speaker 1: the show. I'm excited to see. We just dropped the
Speaker 1: trailer of the day, so I'm excited to see the
Speaker 1: outcome from from this because it was it was definitely
Speaker 1: an experience in the environment that I've never experienced before.
Speaker 1: But I say to say that I'm still relevant after
Speaker 1: I came back from tryinga I brought the I brought,
Speaker 1: you know, I brought the money to the table. I
Speaker 1: brought the trademark. I created the Millennium Tour that that
Speaker 1: caused this nostalgic wave that took all these Millennium Tour one,
Speaker 1: million Tour two. So I'm a part of that. So
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want say, a puppet master, but I'm
Speaker 1: in the back creating and cultivating and producing deals. That's
Speaker 1: where I'm at now that I'm a modern day mogul.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm an executive in this industry,
Speaker 1: and I'm here to bring and give opportunities to those
Speaker 1: because I understand what it's like to not have understand
Speaker 1: what it's like to go through the drought. I understand,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like to be brot play again.
Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of all that, one of the things I
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you is like, do you feel like
Speaker 3: there's added pressure, added pressure to have money being that
Speaker 3: you are a star?
Speaker 1: I definitely think there's pressure.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like as a star, you can't
Speaker 3: You're like, I would never go to work at target right,
Speaker 3: you would never go back. So, like, do you feel
Speaker 3: a boy you put so much lotries people, way too
Speaker 3: much lowries on that. But do you feel like there's
Speaker 3: mad pressure on you to like maintain a certain level
Speaker 3: of income or or to even stay relevant because I
Speaker 3: even Nick.
Speaker 1: Went through of course, hell yeah, hell yeah. Because some
Speaker 1: people trying to say they don't care about what you
Speaker 1: people think. But you know, people judge you based off
Speaker 1: of how you took care of yourself, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, from your narrows to your hair to you know,
Speaker 1: how you manage your money, how do you move and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You don't have to prove anything to anyone,
Speaker 1: but you always want to be soliding your own shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And despite what people say,
Speaker 1: people they may not say it, but they still they
Speaker 1: kind of move a little interesting around you based off
Speaker 1: of how they appear. Because you're pulling up in a
Speaker 1: motherfucking of vented door, a five hundred thousand on a car,
Speaker 1: and you got to not that you have to have this.
Speaker 1: I'm that's saying. You know what I'm saying. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of very wealthy people that I know that don't
Speaker 1: do none of that stuff. Right to each his own.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you need to
Speaker 1: be wealthy and calm and holding your spirit and you
Speaker 1: can move and walk through anything. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been in this game for quite some time,
Speaker 3: and the people that continually pop up to stay relevant,
Speaker 3: like Nick or yourself.
Speaker 2: You guys work your asses off, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I always tell people like whenever I'm like, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: I think I'm working hard, I'm like, ain't nobody working
Speaker 3: hard as Nick Cannon?
Speaker 2: Because that I remember people chaping up in the studio
Speaker 2: being like, you know, you know, I just want this
Speaker 2: from Nick, and I'll be like that has the ten
Speaker 2: you guys are sitting in the studio smoking up, like
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You know, it depends how you want it. Like for me,
Speaker 1: I've been very like I want to be took that happened.
Speaker 1: Took me sixteen years to put the crew back together. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, from secure the trademark, securing the money,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I wanted to happen. I
Speaker 1: willed it back together. Yeah, me, you know the things
Speaker 1: that I felt that was tooken from me. This is life.
Speaker 1: You gotta go take it for yourself. I went out
Speaker 1: and just got it. Okay, cool, somebody did this to
Speaker 1: me or they said this or that. Cool. Cool, take
Speaker 1: the hits. So don't ever look at me as a victim.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is me ten times down, staying
Speaker 1: on my own journey. Fuck what niggas are talking about?
Speaker 1: Guess what you really want to smoke? You can really
Speaker 1: get it if you really really want it. But guess what,
Speaker 1: You're really not worth it. So I'm gonna focus my
Speaker 1: energy over here because you're a bitch ass nigga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I feel deep down inside about energies that
Speaker 1: are like but this is dreggonators. Any any negative, low
Speaker 1: level frequency energy that is my high vibrational that is
Speaker 1: allowed for me to manifest and create and continue to
Speaker 1: travel with the earth.
Speaker 3: What advice signing out? What advice would you give to
Speaker 3: anybody that has made it dipped and they're currently in
Speaker 3: their dipstate? You know, there's there's some people you know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Be real with yourself, Be real with yourself. Transparency is
Speaker 1: super key. Really really understand where you're at and be
Speaker 1: honest with yourself. When you're honest with yourself, you can say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm fucked up at, this is where
Speaker 1: I need to share this, this is where I need
Speaker 1: to move this really, because you have to be able
Speaker 1: to make adjustment. Yeah, yeah, don't live in like in.
Speaker 2: The fantasy world of like.
Speaker 1: Like I give an example, Like I give example, I've
Speaker 1: been living. I make a lot of money because I
Speaker 1: just know how to hustle, right, So I still maintained
Speaker 1: and live the lifestyle I splurred. You can ask my girl,
Speaker 1: I splurged and I live because I just know how
Speaker 1: to make money. But imagine if I didn't splur so much, right,
Speaker 1: Imagine if I, you know, maybe probably cut down on
Speaker 1: certain way And imagine if you cut down on certain
Speaker 1: areas and start applying certain things. You just got to
Speaker 1: be real with yourself from where you want, where you
Speaker 1: see yourself, because at the end of the day, you're
Speaker 1: the master of your your own destiny. Right, So you're
Speaker 1: gonna either build some dope ship or you're gonna fall
Speaker 1: to the wayside. It depends how bad you want it.
Speaker 1: So what are you willing to sacrifice for that? So
Speaker 1: anyone out there that's been through. It's like, yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: you've been, you've been, You've been around. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you want to make out of it? So,
Speaker 1: I mean I had to come to that sense with myself.
Speaker 1: So and that's when I started making better decisions for
Speaker 1: better financial situations, such.
Speaker 2: A financial situations.
Speaker 1: That's financial that situations. You have to make decisions, better
Speaker 1: financial decisions, you know what I'm saying in regards to
Speaker 1: as well as better friendships. You know, who's who can
Speaker 1: you allow to be around you? Who can come to
Speaker 1: your work environment? Who's going to help you this, Who's
Speaker 1: gonna who's gonna hinder this? Like as much as I
Speaker 1: love my brother, you just did an interview with Orlando
Speaker 1: that I set up for you, but like, for example,
Speaker 1: you know my brother. As much as I love my brother,
Speaker 1: he's not the one that can be around my business.
Speaker 1: This is my own blood, you Underseand I want to
Speaker 1: tell you right, you can't have people around that's going
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: What drain you or be negative, damn your light, all
Speaker 3: of the above, anything negative. After being rich and being broke,
Speaker 3: are you afraid of ever being broke again?
Speaker 1: Oh? I'm so afraid of being broke again.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've read so many decisions like listen, but
Speaker 2: your confidence is.
Speaker 1: So I'm always making money like but no, but seriously,
Speaker 1: it's better to have that cushion and that's ability, so
Speaker 1: when the famine does come, you can see you can
Speaker 1: coast a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally just bought some glasses for a photo shoot.
Speaker 1: Spent about nine hundred and ninety five hours on these glasses,
Speaker 1: and took them holes back the next day.
Speaker 2: Amen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I found my other iPad, my iPods that I was
Speaker 1: looking for. I couldn't find the ones I just bought.
Speaker 1: You can bring them back in two weeks. I got
Speaker 1: that three sixty nine back or was it two sixty nine?
Speaker 2: And by the way, I took your speaker, which it
Speaker 2: was a it was a gift.
Speaker 1: It was a gift.
Speaker 3: Let's go with just let's just talk about Bad Boys
Speaker 3: and where people could keep up with you and catch
Speaker 3: up with you so we can close out and get
Speaker 3: you on a plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yes, about that time. Yeah, No, I'm really
Speaker 1: really excited. You know, we just dropped the trailer today
Speaker 1: for a Bad Boys season two Texas exactly produced by
Speaker 1: Natalie None, shot to zeus and let me and LJ
Speaker 1: and the whole team over there that produced a phenomenal show.
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, it was a hostile environment, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, it was something different. But through my you know,
Speaker 1: my mental strengthness and my anger management skills, I was
Speaker 1: able to just stay myself as much as possible. But
Speaker 1: let me tell this, these motherfuckers is crazy.
Speaker 2: It sounded like crazy.
Speaker 1: No, these motherfuckers is crazy. And I just feel like,
Speaker 1: just being RASB, you already come in with a target
Speaker 1: on your back, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 1: there to trying to, like, you know, how can we
Speaker 1: take this thing to the next level? How can we
Speaker 1: build a brand? And I feel like we we somewhat
Speaker 1: accomplished that, and I feel like there's there's more seasons
Speaker 1: that come so out. You know, I want everybody to
Speaker 1: subscribe me and to and then check out your boy Ras,
Speaker 1: you know, and support the production because they definitely spent
Speaker 1: a lot of money over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then and then also you can keep up with
Speaker 3: Ras online on Instagram if you really want an entertaining day,
Speaker 3: you'll see him dipping in out of comments and you
Speaker 3: will smart. I promised you whenever I see you in
Speaker 3: a comment section, I'm like, let's get it rasby underscore.
Speaker 1: B two K your boys signed off. Make sure you
Speaker 1: subscribe bad boys. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Eating while we broke, Eating while broke, and you will
Speaker 3: I'll get an updated eating while broke this because his
Speaker 3: ramen probably not going to make it in the cookbook,
Speaker 3: So we're gonna get an updated dish on his on
Speaker 3: his dish for the cookbook.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming and spending time
Speaker 2: with Thank you and hooking up. Shout outs to a
Speaker 2: RAS for or Orlando Brown everywhere. Yes, yes, so I'll
Speaker 2: see determined.
Speaker 1: She's determined about her business, like she flew out to make.
Speaker 2: Sure she got her interviews with my toddler with my toddler.
Speaker 1: Know how you made it happen? But yes you did.
Speaker 3: And then and then I'll see you in Atlanta hopefully.
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