1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been very vocal, and I've 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: been holding back with a lot of restraints because I've 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of work on myself and I 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: just really just you know, i'd like to say, and 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say, and I'm not afraid to say, 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not afraid to say. 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: So what do you have us eating today? As you 8 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: broke dish? 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, I can only remember when 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: it was brought to me, like it was either like 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: my main dish was top right and it was hard 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: for me to choose because it was either the top rhyman. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: It was either you know that egg sandwich, you know 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: what the bread or like a tuna sandwich or a 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: peanut butter swich. But I feel like I hate to. 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we went back and forth. Just so you 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: guys know, a lot of our guests shoes top Ramen. 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 3: I'm always like be towing top Ramen. 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: It's the cheapest a couple of noodles. 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: It's because everyone's dish goes into a cookbook and I 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: know that top Ramen is it's a popular So the 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: only time I accept top Ramen on the show is 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: if you have tweaked it. 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: But Rad says that he does tweak. Kids, what do 25 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: you do to yours? 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's times I've put tuning in it. There's 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: times that I put eggs in it. There's times and 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I just put a lot of different seasons just to 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: try to figure out like karaokey sauce, oyster sauce. Try, 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: you just try and freed the different noodles. But like, 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: for real, I would love to come back because I 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: have a few other broke dishes now that like, because 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: you wheels are turning right, yeah, because you opened up that. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you opened up that that that you know, that 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: that portal of what it was like to be broke, Like, well, 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: what the fuck was niggas eating like motherfucker's eating like 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: Jack in the box tacos for a dollar? 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: I still love those, by the way, I still eat them. 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: I still eat like That's like when I go to 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 3: dragone Crack and people are like, what do you want, 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm like curly fries and some to two for one tacos. 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Right, you talked about never forgetting where you came from, 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: so for real, for real, but yeah, that's why but 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: now that I know that you're building a cookbook, you know, 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I would love to come back. You know what I'm saying, 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: because we have a bunch of I. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: Just think that that recipe, Well, why don't you start 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: us off a right cool all y'all listeners, y'all know 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: how the top ramen goes. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: You boil the hot water and uh you go from there. 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: So it's real simple. We're gonna keep it light and simple. 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: But let me tell you this, when your boy was, 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, seeing how many y'all like tasting us this 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: season just by itself. Really, yes, the season is good. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Mind of that chicken season in the cup with the 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: little squares, oh the bollion listen called I don't cook. 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, there's men many times 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: right just when in my mom's cap, I'm like, yo, 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put this in here and put this 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: in here. 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: Are you gonna do two or one? 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Always better? 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: It was always better. So I had a guess. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: One time they said that they would save half of 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: the they would eat a one pack and they would 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: save half for like lunch. 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: And half for break. 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Y'all, break break the second break. 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Don't dump that little seasoning. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Pack ship is in there. Well, we got to get 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: it out. 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Now, you know, ra isn't in the kitchen a lot. 74 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're not in the kitchen as okay, perfect, 75 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: all right? 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: So I have another question. When you do your ramen. 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: I like to do my ramen where it's like cook 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: not all the way mushy, and then I drain it 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: a little bit so it's a little more dry. 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: How do you do yours? 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: It depends on how I feel that day, right. Sometimes 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: I will completely drain it and I'll put some butter 83 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: in which I'm gonna put some butter in, some singing salt, 84 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe an egg. I typically I drain it. 85 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll drain it and I put it like a 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: lot of butter, and I just have it like really 87 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: really dry. And sometimes I just like I leave the 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: soup because I think the soup is pretty good too. 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I like the soup. But after having ramen 90 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: like eight hundred and million, thousand, kazillion times, I do 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: the draining and I do the butter mixture. But you've 92 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: seen so much success in your life, are I like 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: to go back to the time when you were eating 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: this ramen. Okay, So with you, you have an interesting 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: story because I'm assuming you were broke before you were successful, 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: and then there was a period in the middle. I'm 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: sure we're dipped a little bit and then it picked 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: up again. So which part of the Ramen story do 99 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: we get today? 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. You get the story from 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: the Ramen when I was just starting out, and I'm 102 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: sure you probably get that from most people in this 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: industry if you are not financially Uh, what's the word? 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: I want to Financial literacy is everything in this business. 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of artists have to have took a 106 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: dip and and splurage and ran through money sitting and 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: all to manage it with credit and so on and 108 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: so forth. So I've definitely experienced some some heart into 109 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: my life Where've ran through some money and I've been 110 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be able to, you know, continue to 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: move forward, you know what I'm saying. With with learning 112 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: how to manage money and continue to grow with funds, 113 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I get like, if you get a hundred K, you 114 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, don't just run through it. You 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You can you can actually invest 116 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: on a hundred thousand and turn it turn to five 117 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, turn that five hundred thousand into you know, 118 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: to five million. So you know, I recall my mom 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: always being gone at work, and you know, as a kid, 120 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: you're growing up and you really don't know how to 121 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: cook for yourself. So the easiest thing you can do, 122 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: you can take some ramen, keep the water up, and 123 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: then you know you can cook. You can actually cook 124 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: the ramen the microwave, you know. But the easiest thing 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: for me is I learned, you know, to to boil 126 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: the water and put the ramen in there. And I 127 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: just used to get really really creative and and eat 128 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: that ramen and remember as it and and think as 129 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: a as a kid, what do I want to do 130 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: when I when I get older. On top of like 131 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: waiting for cartoons to come on and different things like that, 132 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: but like, there was always this sense of destiny that 133 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I had upon my life, and I feel less for everyone, 134 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: you know that that comes to this earth. I had 135 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: a sense of destiny. It's just really all about figuring 136 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: out figuring you know, you kind to kind of grow 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: into your your spirituality. You have to grow into your enlightenments. 138 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: You have to grow into your discipline. You have to 139 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: embrace the world. But at the same time, excuse me, 140 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: you have to learn how to be in the world, 141 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: not of the world. So for me, you know, this, 142 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: this dish represents like humility. For me, it represents it 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: takes me back to the time when I was a kid, 144 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: just cooking that, thinking and dreaming, you know. And even 145 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: at times as as I got older, I still found 146 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: myself eating ram and I wound up living in China. 147 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: When I was well, I had some success. I had 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: a lot of success. 149 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, before you went to China. 150 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: But when you were saying that, you were thinking about 151 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: your destiny And while making this, did you think, Okay, 152 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to be a music star or a dancer? 153 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: Like what were you thinking when you were thinking about 154 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: your desk? You know, do you need to turn that up? 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: And I turned it down actually because I'm gonna let 156 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: them want to cook it for a little bit. I 157 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: it's a really good question. I would definitely say what 158 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: a child likes faith. There was a lot of times 159 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: my mind just wondered, and I felt like as I 160 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: got older, I finally had to kind of like dig 161 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: get back into what I used to like or what 162 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I used to think about, And that's kind of hard 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: to remember. What do you used to think about and 164 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: dream of as a kid. I think one of the 165 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: biggest things for me it was always having a major platform. 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: It was always being a voice, It was always being 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: a light. It was always making people laugh. Right, So 168 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: at a young age, I recalled being like I would 169 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: I learned trying to drive a stick shift at like 170 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: eight nine years old, right, So I would take the 171 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: car to the store, to the Mexican market. But a 172 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: lot of times my mom would tell me, she remember 173 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: that there would be times that I would go to 174 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: the Mexim mark and I'll be like acting like I 175 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: was singing Spanish and you know, imitating different Spanish songs 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: that I heard and dancing. And you know, for me, 177 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that sparked the level of entertainment because I wasn't afraid 178 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to you know, yeah, and be the eyeball in the room, 179 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: per se and uh, you know, to give it, to 180 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: give a person a chuckle or laugh. It brought me 181 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: great joy that I was able to give them joy. 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: So I think that's something that I actually held onto. 183 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Being a class clown and different things like that. But 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: once again, I say this dish actually really represents like 185 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the times when I you know, didn't know what to cook. 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it was the it was the 187 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: cheapest thing to buy. There was there was times where 188 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, money was just really really short. That's like 189 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: a go to. 190 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: But now you said that when you were when you 191 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: were a child, but you lacked faith, Like why would 192 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: you say that, say black face? 193 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah you said like black face. I thought you did 194 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: because I was like, that's interesting that you said. 195 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe at manage, maybe I did like 196 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: some faith. I mean, you know, I mean if I 197 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: did say that, I would say to this that your 198 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: favor is challenge and you may be leaving something as 199 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: a kid, but you have people around telling you that 200 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: you can't be a scientist. Oh that's gonna take you 201 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: thirty two years, Like damn, thanks for discouraging me. But 202 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: they gave me the truth at the same time. So 203 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: it's like, but a kid can't process that at a 204 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: young age, right, You kind of need that pat on 205 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the back and say yeah, you can do it. And 206 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: if you do, see you know that the interest is 207 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: really there for a kid. You have to continue to 208 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: put those roadblocks in front of them for the sake 209 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: and continue to elevate if that's what it is, because 210 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of us could be. I 211 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: feel like everyone should know physics to the highest level. 212 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we're all scientists. I feel like we're 213 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: all super intelligence, the way our bodies are made, the 214 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: way the universe works, And I just feel like we've 215 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: been taught to be dumbed down versus to be super enlightened. 216 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like when I look at countries like 217 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: China and how they brought seven hundred million people out 218 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: of poverty in thirty years, it's that's how you empower culture, right, 219 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: And you wonder why the the end, the Chinese n 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: is the number one currency in the world, which I 221 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen eventually anyway, because the 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: way America's running their currency. So that's a whole other conversation. 223 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: That's a definite whole of the conversation. 224 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 3: How old were you when you started B two K, 225 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: when you got into B two. 226 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: K, it's a good question, probably the thirteen and a half, fourteen, 227 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: maybe thirteen and a. 228 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: Half, So what led to that? So you're eight, so 229 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm gathering is like, you're eight years old. 230 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: You're definitely not your typical eight year old I don't know, 231 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: eight or nine year olds driving stick shifted cars. 232 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, rolling out in the street. 233 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So how did how did how did that nine 234 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: year old self transition into like a B two K moment? 235 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: That that's a good question. You know, I have a 236 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: family in the industry, you know, I would definitely say 237 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: that was a segue, that was a that was definitely 238 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: a path of bridge those my cousin okay, right, and 239 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: my brother was I would say my brother was really 240 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: more interested in the music industry per se than me. 241 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: So there was times where he brought me along for 242 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: his talent shows and we had this little group we 243 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: call called brothers Too, And you know, just to give 244 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: like people a little context of my life. You know, 245 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: my mom was going through and beuse some relationship at 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: the time, and I was in and at a foster home. 247 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: So around the ages of twelve and after thirteen, my 248 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: cousin Christus was able to take over guardianship for me, 249 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: and I think it was pretty cool that just kind 250 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: of like growing up and seeing different groups and different 251 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: being inspired by some of his work that I had 252 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be around something that inspired me, which 253 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: was as a kid with a light, right, There's a 254 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: lot that comes along with being inspired, and we got 255 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: to make sure you find the right lights. Right. I 256 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: feel like I learned a lot of great things over there, 257 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: and for the most part, I was able to grow 258 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: into myself and he provided an opportunity. It was a 259 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: group that he was working with called Melodic and that 260 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: group was consistent of four members, which was Jay Bug, 261 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Little Fish, and JAHI, which was which is jimya Oukle's brother, 262 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: and our brother Trey and we you know. It was 263 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of I felt like the eye ball that joined 264 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: the group because they already had a four main group 265 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and I was like the fifth member. But now that 266 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: I'm older, I never asked anybody about this. I would 267 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: like to know why did they accept me. I kind 268 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: of felt like maybe because my cousin had, you know, 269 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, previous success in the industry and had relationships 270 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and I don't really know politics behind it, but they 271 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: accepted me. I kind of feel like the eyeball, But 272 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I felt like I eventually fit in a group and 273 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: we went on to travel to multiple different labels, auditioned 274 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: for him, sung for them, nobody signed us. So but 275 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: we came across one label that thought the three of us, 276 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: which was Jay Bug, myself and Fizz, they thought we 277 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: were pretty dope and they felt like we were just 278 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: missing the right lead singer because they felt like the 279 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: other two guys maybe looked a little too older for 280 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the group, which I thought I didn't really think about 281 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: it to now, but maybe they did. They looked a 282 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: little bit more mature than we did. And we had 283 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: the three of us had a chemistry, which those two 284 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: guys went on to start another group called Final Four 285 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: and got signed to MCA. So I was happy that 286 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: they had that experience, but B two K actually went 287 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: on to do our thing. 288 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: So you you three, this was prior to a Mario. 289 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: This is prior to a Mario getting in the group. 290 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: We went through it. We went through about a good 291 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: year and a half two years before we met a Mari. 292 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: So so you have the three of you guys and 293 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: they're like, let's search for a lead and then where 294 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 3: does a Marion come in? 295 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: But that's a good I'm gonna give you some some 296 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: more contacts and give you some more details, so that 297 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: label had actually seen the vision was Epic Records at 298 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: the time, I believe. I don't want to get caught 299 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: up with titles, but I know David Fisher was probably 300 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: either the president or vice president or you know, the 301 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: really top executive, along with poly Anthony rest in peace, Polly, 302 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: we love you, Thank you for everything, and Tommy Mantola 303 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: was a top guy. And we were very fortunate enough 304 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: to meet with Max Goose. We love you Max, I 305 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: can't forget Max. Max was the one of the main 306 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: champions for B two K, you know, to who brought 307 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: in Davey Frish and Jamie Frisch and signed Backstreet Boy. 308 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool too, And so we had 309 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: people with experience of boys groups and it was crazy 310 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: because the negotiations went back and forth, you know that 311 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: woman and they was interested in the signing. That's and 312 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: they were interested, but they didn't have the fourth member. 313 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: And I remember there was an artist I don't know 314 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: his name, but it was along the lines of like, 315 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, so I don't want to butcher it, 316 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: but I think Keith Sweat having solo artists that potentially 317 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: they was thinking about putting them in a group. That 318 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: guy never popped up. Mm hm, oh yeah, that's looking good. 319 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: So that guy never. 320 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: Listen, we're gonna eat together. 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna take it. It's gonna take a brother back. 322 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: There was a you don't put the seasoning in. 323 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think everybody likes their own season 324 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: so I wasn't. I wasn't here. Let me get your ball. 325 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm watching you. You know the way you eat it. Okay, 326 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: if you get season it however you like. I mean, 327 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna be nice today. 328 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I cook the news. I'm gonna let you put I 329 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: do put butter and seasons on. Those are like my 330 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: main two ingredients, you know what I'm saying. Like, those 331 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: are my go to seasons. Man, you put that, you 332 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: or anything, but but yo. So that so that that 333 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: artist never popped up. So it was three of us 334 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: just lingering around. So I remember meeting a Marion at 335 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Houston's eighteenth birthday party, and I thought he was dope. 336 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: He was like I think he had his timbering boots on, 337 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: he his corn rolls, you know what I'm saying. He 338 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: was a background dancing for Before Dark and you know, 339 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: thank you, and he was he's like a background that's 340 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: for before dark. He had his cameos, he was doing 341 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: his thing, and I like the fact that he was 342 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: already in the industry. He wasn't afraid to get in 343 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: the circle. Some people be afraid to get in that 344 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: circle and dances be dancing and they make the circle 345 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: at like a party or something of that. So I 346 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy is cool. So I remember 347 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: me and the guys we were having a conversation where 348 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, we did to chop it up with him. 349 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we all walked off, like to 350 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: the side, and maybe we walked in the bathroom or 351 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: we walked out. I don't remember all the defining details, 352 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: but what I do remember is we had a conversation 353 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: with the guy and he wasn't opposed to joining the group, 354 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: being a solo artist already or pursuing his his dreams. 355 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: We thought he would be a good fit because at 356 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: this time we were already on the radar of the labels. 357 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, but he says, didn't have the official signature. 358 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: You have the we have the Fisher signature deal. So 359 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: I typically take I used the season that maybe too 360 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: much for maybe for I take this. If you need 361 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: more seasons, I how to take this, and of course 362 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I take the butter. 363 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Always take the butter. 364 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Okay, typically put the butter in. 365 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh you put the butter in first? Yeah, okay. 366 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: So o Marion, at the time you meet him, he's 367 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: he's a singer slash dancer or is he mainly a dance. 368 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: He was actually a rapper and he was he was 369 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: a rapper. Box of weeds to eat, the feed, the greedy's. 370 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: He had his little rappers all you do. But A 371 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: Mario was lit. Mario has always been lit, you know 372 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He had his Pops commercial, he had, 373 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: he was you know, he was working with his company 374 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: called I think it was called Abrams or something like that. 375 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: And am I right was Abrams? Yeah? It was as 376 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: got but uh, you know, amar was ma was dope. 377 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: Me and a Mari actually really got along. And I 378 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: thought it was cool that he actually joined our group. 379 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: He right should have puted him out a little soiler, so, 380 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, but I thought it was dope Mario. Eventually, 381 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: after we had that meeting in the bathroom or in 382 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: the hallway wherever, that was Marion wound up coming up 383 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: to the house and we like kind of like dance 384 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: for him in there, and we did our little routines. 385 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: We showed our we we displayed our talents, and he 386 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: displayed his talents. Then we started immediately learning routines together. 387 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: And as we started to look like it was a 388 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: the chemistry was there. I think the biggest thing that 389 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: we like at that time was was vocally, So it 390 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: took some time for us going to you know, really 391 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: learn how to use our instruments. You know what I mean. 392 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: I believe everybody can sing, but you just got to 393 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: train your voice, you know what I'm saying, and then 394 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: and then and then find out what's what's good for you. 395 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of artists that came, 396 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, through this business that actually, if I'm gonna 397 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: put just a little bit on this because us I 398 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: forgot I think that. 399 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: So how long did it take for you guys from 400 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: from bringing a marian on practicing and exploring your vocals together. 401 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: How long did it take before you guys got signed? 402 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, just like the first group, which was 403 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: called Melodic, it was about five of us in the group. 404 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was the fifth member, the awkward guy. 405 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: But after many people, hey, after many people pass up 406 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: on us, you know, eventually we went to that little phase, 407 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: that down period where we you know, had our hopes 408 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: of hot things and there was a member was going 409 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: to come in and we got the label They're kind 410 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: of interesting us already and then that. 411 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: Just dies, right so and is Crystal managing you or yet? 412 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: Yep? And then and then we come back from what 413 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I recall, we we we get a Mari and then 414 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: we go through all of the labels again, seez right, 415 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: they all passed. There was a level of interest where 416 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: Arister Records and La Re was courting us for some 417 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: time because Louis Silence was involved Rest in Peace to 418 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Little Silence, and it was really interesting to the fact 419 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: that they still passed on us. So now we still 420 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: we're still in this same like entanglement with Epic Records, 421 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: and you know, we would see them at different industry 422 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: events because BJK step kept going and now we got 423 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: the four. We still even though you're to sign us, 424 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: we're still moving now. 425 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: When you guys are still performing, where we still perform 426 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: wherever we. 427 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: Can we building a buzz when the world start, we 428 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: do word up magazines. You know. Now we were in 429 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: vow Wow's Ghetto Girls video. Now we're in hold on 430 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: where we signed, Max, where we sign I'm gonna have 431 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: to call you after this. Were we signed when we 432 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: did the Ghetto Girls video. I don't know we got 433 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: to come back to that. That's different because but we 434 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: we did so much to the label to where we 435 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: did so much, So when we came back to the label, 436 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: I remember meeting like Tiss Williams who managed three O 437 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: wor overs Ol Train, and that was set up by 438 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: management because they had relationships and they let us meet. 439 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: But now that I'm older, I realized that meeting was 440 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: what led to Marvin Pearton because we've been circling around 441 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: this label for a long time. Marvin Peer had a little, 442 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: i think a higher status than maybe Max Goos, and 443 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: maybe it was in a different lane in the company 444 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: than David Person. But somehow he had the ear of 445 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Polyantheony Polly's right under Tommy. So somehow, I don't know 446 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: how it happened, but we wind up performing for the 447 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: entire label inside of five point fifty meterson in New York. 448 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: Because everybody's like Who the fuck is this group? Why 449 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: are they fucking like? Yea, what is all this energy 450 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: about this group? We wound up shutting the building down. 451 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: So like other other departments are coming over to. 452 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: Everybody that was in. Sony came in the lunch cafeteria. 453 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: They set up a stage for the actually spent money 454 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: on his say, flew us out, and you know, they 455 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: were still courting us, you know what I'm saying. And 456 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: finally we got that opportunity to perform for Time Ontold 457 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: and Tim mototally was like, you know, we performed him 458 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: by ourself and he he pulled the trigger. But it 459 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: was a crazy journey, like you know, it was crazy. 460 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: It took some years, you know, but in nineteen nine nine, 461 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: I remember getting that deal. I had tears in my eyes. 462 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: It was it was, it was we were so excited 463 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: because it was something that we worked so hard for, 464 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: especially at the time where we felt like the label, 465 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: our production company was going to drop us. You know, 466 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: they didn't really want to, uh, you know, they didn't 467 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: think it was going to be able to happen because 468 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: they spent so much money to get us to what 469 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: we got. There was times where we even added a 470 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: fifth member from another group called Third Story to be 471 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: a part of the group. 472 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you guys were really beating 473 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: the pavements. So when you get your deal, you get signed. Now, 474 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: B two K, what year was it that you guys? 475 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: You got signed in ninety nine? But what year was 476 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: the tipping point where everybody was like, look gay everywhere? 477 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 3: Oh nice, sorry, slurp them ramins. 478 00:21:59,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: No. 479 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: B two K kind of like popped on the scene 480 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: and exploded. It wasn't like it wasn't like a gradual 481 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: like even you know, like when you look at Rihanna's career, 482 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: Rihanna was dropping records before Umbrella. 483 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: And then Umbrella took it and it just you know, 484 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: B two K kind of went right away. Am I wrong? 485 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: That's a good I mean wrong. Well, Rihanna's story is different. 486 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Rihanna got signed by jay Z out the Gate, she 487 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: was doing challenge shows. B two K was already in 488 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: the industry. 489 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: But but that's what I'm saying. 490 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: It because of the people that we had behind us, 491 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: immature as the Chris Stokes and stuff, so we had 492 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more accents. So I feel like it 493 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: didn't It may appear for some people like it happened overnight, 494 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: but for us, it didn't. 495 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: We were Lise saying from the time you signed, though, 496 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: from the time you signed. I'm not talking about before 497 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: because it sounds like you guys ran a marathon. I 498 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: feel like when you signed. How how fast it go 499 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: from signing to multi places? 500 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: That's a really good question, but I'm to put to 501 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: put you right there and then like the little middle park, 502 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: because we were lit, we got a eight we have, 503 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: we got we got offered a superstar deal, not a 504 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: little development deal, so they already knew we was gonna pop. Okay, 505 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: So for people who'd just seen us in two thousand 506 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: and one, after we got our deal at Night late 507 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, fourth Quarter Night nineteen niney nine, we 508 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: spent that whole two thousand working on an album You 509 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: Feel Me, So it was already you know, they put 510 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: millions behind it, so it was gonna pop. They already 511 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: knew the group was dope. It was really just about 512 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: finding the right records. So to give you that between 513 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: nineteen between nineteen ninety nine we got signed fourth Quarter, 514 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I told them November December somewhere 515 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: around there, spent that year recording. Our first album came 516 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: out in March twelve, two thousand and one, and they 517 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: had to put the singles number. It was thirteen weeks 518 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: at number one. It's so over a half a million copy? 519 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: What single was that again? 520 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Uh huh? And it was produced by Tricky Stewart. It 521 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: even won us a buildble toward. But they pulled that 522 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: record back because I believe they like a little special 523 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: DVD with it, like it was a DVD with the 524 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: video attention single, and they put it back because they 525 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: wanted to say that for the album that was coming, 526 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: that single would have want Probably I don't I don't 527 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: know the sound scan today, but it probably went on 528 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: to be a platinum single. And but during that time, 529 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: it took us about six I could be wrong, three 530 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: to six months to break that record. The visual really 531 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: helped break the song, you know what I'm saying. And 532 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know even though we you know, 533 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: were urban group, we actually had a pop record, you 534 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were number one on the 535 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: the you know, the Hot one hundreds for thirteen weeks. Yeah, 536 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: so that was that was some That was some big ship. 537 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: And then you got the support of a billion dollar 538 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: company spending millions behind you, You're going to get access 539 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: to everything. 540 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: Now was that so at the time? 541 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: Now this is you know, the industry has been notorious 542 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: for taking advantage of groups, or there have been groups 543 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: that have been taken advantage of in the industry. So 544 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: you guys are a young group of guys, your teenagers. Right, 545 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: you get signed, you get this deal, but you do 546 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: come from the industry. So I'm guessing your deal wasn't 547 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: like a terrible deal, right. 548 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I believe B two K got a good deal, but 549 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: you gotta understand, you know, you can't fought. You know, 550 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: people prayers from lack of knowledge. Right. A lot of 551 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: people want to fault the labels, like the way math 552 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: is put together. It's like math magicians, right, the way 553 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the industry is put there there there, you know, at 554 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: that old business model that is now different, is evolved 555 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: in the change. A lot of these labels will say, hey, 556 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: we spending all these millions of dollars and we make 557 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: you into this, but we don't get any money from 558 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: touring merchandise this. So that's why they started creating three sixties. 559 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: So we got to think about the labels. If I 560 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: was spending my money as a label, I'm like, yo, 561 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: they got to recoup it now only they got to 562 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: recoup it. I made this human being and I put 563 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: this artist to where he's at. Right, So some people 564 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: like to complain. You just have to look at the deal. 565 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: You have to try to negotiate the best deal for yourself, 566 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and take accountability for what 567 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: type of deal that you signed. Don't be mad at 568 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: at Listen. If I'm in business, you got some I 569 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: don't want to say shisty, but you got some people 570 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna try to negotiate better than you. Right, negotiate 571 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: if you feel that it's not at the time, maybe 572 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't take that deal. And that's when people say, hey, 573 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: you sold out, right, Maybe you shouldn't have voted so early. 574 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: Maybe you should have just went on like for example 575 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: b TK, if we would have maybe held out a 576 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: little bit longer, maybe we got to even better deal. Right, 577 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: But you got to be grateful for the fact that 578 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: we were able to get to a point, which is 579 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: like very rare, right to get a superstar deal, not 580 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: just a development deal or a little smarter like a 581 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: really major deal and have the whole label and company 582 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: behind you pushing you. That's a major you have to 583 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: you have to blow up. If you don't blow up, 584 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: people getting fired. 585 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: Were you guys looking at the marketing budget going, yes, 586 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: this is definitely a big deal. 587 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, I didn't see it, but 588 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: I knew better. 589 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know. 590 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: I knew it was I knew it was some millions. 591 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: So what was the first thing you spent your money 592 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: on once you saw like, what was the first big 593 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: check you got? 594 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: And what was the first thing you bought with it? 595 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: I think it was probably like twenty five thousand, maybe 596 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: probably some clothes? 597 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: And what was your mom thinking at the time? 598 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, my mom wasn't around. She was dealing with 599 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: her own you know, you know, trials and tribulations in 600 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: life with relationships and whatnot. But she gave me the 601 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: blessings to you know, there's something I always wanted to 602 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: do as a kid, and she she she she gave 603 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: me a blessings and she she allowed for me to 604 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, to move forward as as an adolescent because 605 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm at a young age between like 606 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: thirteen and damn. I got my deal when I was 607 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: like fifth, almost fourteen and a half. 608 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So I met you around So it's so funny 609 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: because we've had this talk when we're in it in 610 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: Texas together and we can't remember how we met, which 611 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: is crazy because you're the only you remember how you 612 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: met and I still have no idea how. 613 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: We met or whatever. 614 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: But when I met you, I think it was it 615 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: was after B two K, before before China, after B 616 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: two K. 617 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so you were level B two K was leveling out. 618 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I would say, right, yeah, I believe at the time 619 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: B K was dispanding the delay K was dis span. 620 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: And when that happened, Marioan was solo. Oh yeah, Mario 621 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: went mari was solo, and. 622 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: That's around the time that we met. Yeah. 623 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so at that time, So you have now reached 624 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: all this success. Now you go, you're on the roller 625 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 3: coaster ride. What are your thoughts around the time when 626 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: we knew each other? 627 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Sheesh? Just how fast things can change and adapting to 628 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, not having this machine that you were part of, 629 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: that you helped build, you know, actually operating around you 630 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: every day, even though you have the brand that you 631 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: are those years. It took me time to understand what 632 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: I got. Who am I What happened to me was 633 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: this experience? 634 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: How old were you though? 635 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: You were like probably like twenties, right or not even, 636 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. Look how young you were 637 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: when you have to You're looking You're thinking. 638 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: Like, that's that's that's a crazy experience. 639 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: What are you saying? 640 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: I mean? 641 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: But that's life for you, know what I mean? You know, 642 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: we're I try not to get so caught up in 643 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: the matrix, but we're amazing human beings. Like I always 644 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: say that, Like I just think that we're like amazing 645 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: human beings. And I just thank God for the experiences 646 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: because when I look back at that time, I was like, 647 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: the fuck was she thinking? Like how did you make 648 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it through? Excuse me? How did you make it through? 649 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: But it was definitely a huge transition for me because 650 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: you had to adapt to the money not coming all 651 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: the time, you know, maybe getting a quarterly or or 652 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: semi aily check. You know, I mean, you can't you 653 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: can't sustain yourself over that, you know what I mean? 654 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: And then you you're going you start to look back 655 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: at the deal you want to get bitter, but you 656 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: also have to think about, Okay, during that time, much 657 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: money that you make, regardless if you feel like you 658 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: can get your just do with this? Did you do 659 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: right by that money? So you have to you have 660 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: to start to say hell, you know what, you can't 661 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: blame anybody in life. You have to learn and take 662 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: accountability for yourself at a very young age, even though 663 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: you want to, but you do because that at a 664 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: young age, we're making our own decisions. So you're you're 665 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of grown, but you really don't have the knowledge 666 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: you make them. 667 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: But was there any when you were making those decisions 668 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: on spending the money? Were there any adults or accountants 669 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: or people saying, hey, man, don't do this, or was 670 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: there any training on how to handle money. 671 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: At that when you I believe out of all the 672 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: guys I was, I was the one that people thought 673 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: that yo er probably wouldn't blow his blow a lout 674 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: his cash, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I 675 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: ran through like three hundred thousand and six months. You 676 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying without any financial literacy. You really 677 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: don't know how to handle that. And you're not trying 678 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: to listen to anybody as well. You know what I'm saying, 679 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: You want to go buy three cars and the motorcycle 680 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: and you got all these fucking bills and you just 681 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: keep paying money. Before you know what, shit's gone. Yeah, 682 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like and I 683 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: I really feel like with the money that beach K 684 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: was generating, the money that was generated from beach K, 685 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't really feel like we we got our dress do. 686 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel like recently, you know, the tour that we 687 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: that we just did, and I was very instrumental putting 688 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: it and producing and bringing it together. I feel like 689 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: that was a good payday for all of us because 690 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: the tour did over twenty million dollars. 691 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: Wow, and you had the production well, you had putting 692 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: that whole thing together. 693 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Well. For me, when beach K did disband, it was 694 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: really hard for me just to let go. I'm like, damn, 695 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm invested in my life, my time sacrifice and I 696 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: finished in school and so many different things like how 697 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: are we not to how are we just alienated from 698 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: the business and we can't go out there and capitalize 699 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: on our success. 700 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: What was the ultimate thing that disbands you guys? 701 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Definitely it would say the fact that you know, management 702 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: and production companies were really influenced and had that opportunity 703 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: to be able to tell the narrative to the labels 704 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: and be able to go get that deal for Marion, 705 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: which eventually doing it out to you know whatever, doing 706 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: it too respectfully cool run over there. But it's like 707 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: when you look at the artists like the Justin's and 708 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake's and you look at the Beyonce, there's no 709 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: shots fire at Marion. I've always wanted to mari to 710 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: be like that top solo artist, and I felt like 711 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: how he came out, it was so much backlash that 712 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: he received and so much misunderstanding that he that people 713 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: didn't have of him in regards to how the deal 714 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: was orchestrated. And I feel like a Mario is probably 715 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: like a pond in that situation, because if we would 716 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: have all left together collectively, we would have had our 717 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: en sync no streams attached album, you know what I'm saying, 718 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: leaving lou Pearlman per se. So I don't know, there's 719 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot there. 720 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: You know. 721 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: It always kind of like hunts me or if I 722 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: go to like go down that lane, what it had been, 723 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: but you know, it's the way it was designed, you know, 724 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: and especially in the old and I'll be quick about 725 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: this in the in the old boy group formula groups 726 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: last one, two or three albums. You know, they attend 727 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: to divide and conquer, and I just feel like B 728 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: took should have been a lot stronger. 729 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: How many albums DoD B two K put out? 730 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: We put out a lot of product in such a 731 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: in a short time span, but really two studio albums, 732 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: a soundtrack that was considered an album or at least 733 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: counted towards an album, uh, two remix albums, and some DVDs. 734 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: So we kept a lot of content out which I 735 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: thought was pretty cool and pretty unique for B two K. 736 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: Just this is apply the demand. And I say this 737 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: in closing, like just just growing older in the business. 738 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, you have to understand the business aspect of it. 739 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We love music, but for 740 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the most part, you have to understand the business aspect 741 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: of the business. When you understand that that you can 742 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, you can really benefit from it. You know, 743 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: for example, you have a company that invested I don't know, 744 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Let's say over ten to fifteen million, 745 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars into my brand. I'm still rasby to 746 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, so you know, I mean whether they 747 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: make money off me, which they still do to this day, 748 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I still make money too from from 749 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: from my previous work. You know, you got to be 750 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: thinking for the opportunity you got. And that's why I 751 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: want to encourage a lot of artists to not you know, 752 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: not bash these these investors that are part of a 753 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: company that are shareholders because they want they don't want 754 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: to lose money either, but they're taking a risk on 755 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: someone they don't know if it's going to happen or 756 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: not happen. 757 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 2: It's very risky. 758 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: You just got to, like, you know, get in the door, 759 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, and you know, and work your 760 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: way to the top. I mean, we've seen a lot 761 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: of artists from the jay Z to the Kanye's you know, 762 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: to Nick Cannon's and so on and so forth. Bringing 763 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: up Nick Cannon, I met you somehow your magazine because 764 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: somebody wanted to connect me for a fucking interview with you. 765 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: And you think it was that one of your partners 766 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: and something. And I think I think you were I 767 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know something. 768 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: It was something around the celebrity high air. But okay, 769 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: so just I know we're going. 770 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: To close out this interview soon. But so you're riding 771 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: a wave. I got to take you back on your 772 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: roller coaster. So now the group disbands. You both through 773 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: pretty much all your money. What is he licks the 774 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: b old guys, this is this is, by the way, 775 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: for if you don't know ras this is Rasin is 776 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: truest form talking about this is like probably one of 777 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: the most realist and funniest people. I call him at 778 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: whatever Yes, I just poured it. I call him at 779 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: whatever time and super real. I will tell you more details, 780 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: but it may be too much. 781 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: But uh funny. 782 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: But so you come down off the wave, okay, be 783 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: to dismand you're now you don't have a lot of money, 784 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: So what is your thinking process? 785 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: Now that's good, that's a good question. So during that time, 786 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: you have to say to yourself, like you have to 787 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: remember who you are, what you accomplished, regardless if you 788 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: are still trying to figure out your business, trying to 789 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: collect royalties that are owed to you. You don't have 790 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: that money at the moment, so you got to go 791 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: figure this shit out. The fact that bet you Cad 792 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: sustained a big enough brand. I was still able to, 793 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, get bookings ten grand here at five grand here, right, 794 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: so that was cool. 795 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: So you're like an entrepreneur selling yourself. 796 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: Completely because I'm I'm my own commodity. So I always 797 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: do how to create opportunities that I can bring value 798 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: to as an entrepreneur, as a businessman, as an executive, 799 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I always create opportunities. Even if it wasn't me on 800 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: the on the on the forefront. A lot of people 801 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: want to be well, it's either me on the forefront 802 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: or not. No, if Rasbey can come in and add value, 803 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: help broke a deal and do this and do that, 804 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: and I can slide myself in there where I get 805 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: a little shine up here. Bro take that role. You know, 806 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: some people don't didn't really take time to learn the business. 807 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: I took time to learn the business. So I've always 808 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: been able to sustain myself, like even on the even 809 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: on the bad year, I'm still doing six figures. 810 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: So how did how did you? How did you end 811 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: up in China? 812 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: Because by the way I went looking for you, you're 813 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 3: like disappeared and then I was like, oh, he's in China. 814 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: But this was before that was crazy. I mean, you know, 815 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: during during the breakup, you know BJK was still super hot, right, 816 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: so you still at all the parties and still connected 817 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: the network. And it's all about how you handle your network. 818 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: You're your networking, should at work your network, they say, Right, 819 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: there's some truth to that. NBA Nerly for those that 820 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: are in the industry, and you know about the NBA Entertainmently, 821 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: you know it was the place where US basketball US 822 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: celebrities would go and we would play in our own 823 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: version of the NBA E okay, right, So there's a 824 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of bit network networking going over there. For example, 825 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: one of my guys, he's like, Yo, how would you 826 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: like to perform at the Great Wall of China? Said, huh, 827 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: I said, what you know? And he sent me over 828 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: letter intent. It was a company called BTV Communications. They 829 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: wound up hooking up with how how Uplinger, who produced 830 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: a live a concerts. So this was like some huge shit. 831 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: I tried to get the boys to be a part 832 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: of it, but they weren't really interested, or maybe they 833 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: couldn't hear me, or it was just a lot of 834 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: stuff going on, so that didn't go through. It fell through. 835 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: They put up pressure releases that I was going to 836 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: be a part of the show. I was the Events 837 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: Houston Bassador. I was going to host the show, and 838 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: last minute they were telling me, you get your deal done. 839 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: Get your deal done, because they're gonna they're running out 840 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: of money and they're gonna sell the show to another 841 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: promoter and he may not want to honor the deal 842 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: that we had previously. They wind up by honoring that deal. 843 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: I wound up calling a really big lawyer and putting 844 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: out a boycott letter, which hit them hard, which brought 845 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: them back to the table to negotiate. You gotta play bahrdball. 846 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Sometime you'd play a lot of you got to. 847 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: But it got them. I bought one of the biggest lawyers. 848 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: He was actually Chinese and American. It was pretty cool 849 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: how I did this one. And you know, some people 850 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: can get You can bring a lawyer and they can 851 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: sell out or they cannot sell out. Some lawyers partner 852 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: up with each other and they cash a check and 853 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: they tell you whatever, right. But I felt like I 854 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: found someone that was that really understood what I was 855 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. He worked out a deal where I 856 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: could still go, but I couldn't bring all the people 857 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: because I was before them, all the dancers, all the 858 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: people that I promised and talked about we were going, 859 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: and all the money they didn't want to pay me. 860 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck that deal. I don't work 861 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: to go, you know, don't You said, kick your ball over. 862 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: But I regret it because I would have been in 863 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: someone's history books one hundred years from now from hosting 864 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: the first concert at the Great Wall of China. Yeah, 865 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: that's parked the interest. Someone hit me up seven year 866 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: or four years later about an opportunity to go to China. 867 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: Okay, so is it happening one more time? 868 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: Listen? I love you too, soon soon soon, as soon 869 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: as it happens. Soon as I got that message because 870 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: I was sad, bro I was on fucking one o 871 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: six in Park telling everybody I was going to China, 872 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: like that's embarrassing, you know what, And it don't happen. 873 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: Uncle was like, yo, if it being God's will, you'll 874 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: go back. Got that message on Facebook with the China 875 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: never looked back. 876 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. So then, how so it's what I love 877 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: about you too? 878 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: Is like I was like, you like disappeared and then 879 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: you popped up on social media, and then you're already 880 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: dominating on social media really fast. Like I love when 881 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 3: you pop into a comment section and everybody gets all excited, 882 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: Oh ship, rest in the comments, you know what I'm 883 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: talking about? 884 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 2: Right? Talking about right, talking about right? 885 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: You know, they kind of get excited, like, all Ship, 886 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: what's Rad's gonna say? 887 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: Now? I'm very vocal, and I've been holding back with 888 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot of restraints because I've been doing a lot 889 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: of work on myself, and I just really just you know, 890 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to say yeah, and I'm not 891 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: afraid to say it, but I think that excites people. 892 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: I think people get really excited. 893 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: They'd be like, you know, the eyeball em just like 894 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I mean, you know, for real, It's like, 895 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I have the short 896 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: end of the stick with the beach k deal. I 897 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they decided to go on Marion solo. 898 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been the better bet. 899 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: We're talking just no shade to Marion. I just feel 900 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: like I would have been the better bet, you know, 901 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things a lot of qualities 902 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: that I have that I feel like, you know, it 903 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: takes to be a to sustain in a solo career. 904 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: He does. He's done very well for what he's been given. 905 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: I just feel like I never had that opportunity right 906 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: and I feel like what I've done, I took the 907 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: long road to carve out the space that I have now, 908 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: which brings me the Bad Boys Season two, which is 909 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: the hottest networking Towns network. 910 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: This is your baby, this is your creation. 911 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: Well no, it's not my creation. This is not Natalie 912 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: Nune's creation, and let me and the Zeus Networks. I'm 913 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: just happy to be able to be a producer on it, 914 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: to be a star on the show. With that being said, 915 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a great opportunity because this 916 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 1: show is so huge. You know, it's in everyone's face 917 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to our culture. So I feel like 918 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: they'll be able to have this opportunity to be on 919 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: the show. I'm excited to see. We just dropped the 920 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: trailer of the day, so I'm excited to see the 921 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: outcome from from this because it was it was definitely 922 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,479 Speaker 1: an experience in the environment that I've never experienced before. 923 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: But I say to say that I'm still relevant after 924 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: I came back from tryinga I brought the I brought, 925 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, I brought the money to the table. I 926 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: brought the trademark. I created the Millennium Tour that that 927 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: caused this nostalgic wave that took all these Millennium Tour one, 928 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: million Tour two. So I'm a part of that. So 929 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: I'm I don't want say, a puppet master, but I'm 930 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: in the back creating and cultivating and producing deals. That's 931 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: where I'm at now that I'm a modern day mogul. 932 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm an executive in this industry, 933 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: and I'm here to bring and give opportunities to those 934 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: because I understand what it's like to not have understand 935 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: what it's like to go through the drought. I understand, 936 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: you know what it's like to be brot play again. 937 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of all that, one of the things I 938 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: wanted to ask you is like, do you feel like 939 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: there's added pressure, added pressure to have money being that 940 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 3: you are a star? 941 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: I definitely think there's pressure. 942 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like as a star, you can't 943 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: You're like, I would never go to work at target right, 944 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: you would never go back. So, like, do you feel 945 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 3: a boy you put so much lotries people, way too 946 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: much lowries on that. But do you feel like there's 947 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: mad pressure on you to like maintain a certain level 948 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: of income or or to even stay relevant because I 949 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: even Nick. 950 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: Went through of course, hell yeah, hell yeah. Because some 951 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: people trying to say they don't care about what you 952 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: people think. But you know, people judge you based off 953 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: of how you took care of yourself, you know what 954 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, from your narrows to your hair to you know, 955 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: how you manage your money, how do you move and 956 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You don't have to prove anything to anyone, 957 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: but you always want to be soliding your own shit, 958 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And despite what people say, 959 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: people they may not say it, but they still they 960 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: kind of move a little interesting around you based off 961 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: of how they appear. Because you're pulling up in a 962 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: motherfucking of vented door, a five hundred thousand on a car, 963 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: and you got to not that you have to have this. 964 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm that's saying. You know what I'm saying. There's a 965 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of very wealthy people that I know that don't 966 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: do none of that stuff. Right to each his own. 967 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you need to 968 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: be wealthy and calm and holding your spirit and you 969 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: can move and walk through anything. Yeah. 970 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: Well, I've been in this game for quite some time, 971 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: and the people that continually pop up to stay relevant, 972 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 3: like Nick or yourself. 973 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: You guys work your asses off, you know what I'm saying. 974 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: And I always tell people like whenever I'm like, you know, uh, 975 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: I think I'm working hard, I'm like, ain't nobody working 976 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: hard as Nick Cannon? 977 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: Because that I remember people chaping up in the studio 978 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 2: being like, you know, you know, I just want this 979 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: from Nick, and I'll be like that has the ten 980 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 2: you guys are sitting in the studio smoking up, like 981 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? 982 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, it depends how you want it. Like for me, 983 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: I've been very like I want to be took that happened. 984 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Took me sixteen years to put the crew back together. Yeah. Yeah, 985 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, from secure the trademark, securing the money, 986 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I wanted to happen. I 987 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: willed it back together. Yeah, me, you know the things 988 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: that I felt that was tooken from me. This is life. 989 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: You gotta go take it for yourself. I went out 990 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: and just got it. Okay, cool, somebody did this to 991 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: me or they said this or that. Cool. Cool, take 992 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: the hits. So don't ever look at me as a victim. 993 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is me ten times down, staying 994 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: on my own journey. Fuck what niggas are talking about? 995 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: Guess what you really want to smoke? You can really 996 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: get it if you really really want it. But guess what, 997 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: You're really not worth it. So I'm gonna focus my 998 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: energy over here because you're a bitch ass nigga. Yeah, 999 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: that's why I feel deep down inside about energies that 1000 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: are like but this is dreggonators. Any any negative, low 1001 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: level frequency energy that is my high vibrational that is 1002 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: allowed for me to manifest and create and continue to 1003 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: travel with the earth. 1004 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 3: What advice signing out? What advice would you give to 1005 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 3: anybody that has made it dipped and they're currently in 1006 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 3: their dipstate? You know, there's there's some people you know, 1007 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 3: you know. 1008 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: Be real with yourself, Be real with yourself. Transparency is 1009 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: super key. Really really understand where you're at and be 1010 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: honest with yourself. When you're honest with yourself, you can say, Okay, 1011 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: this is where I'm fucked up at, this is where 1012 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: I need to share this, this is where I need 1013 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: to move this really, because you have to be able 1014 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: to make adjustment. Yeah, yeah, don't live in like in. 1015 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: The fantasy world of like. 1016 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: Like I give an example, Like I give example, I've 1017 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: been living. I make a lot of money because I 1018 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: just know how to hustle, right, So I still maintained 1019 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: and live the lifestyle I splurred. You can ask my girl, 1020 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: I splurged and I live because I just know how 1021 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: to make money. But imagine if I didn't splur so much, right, 1022 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: Imagine if I, you know, maybe probably cut down on 1023 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: certain way And imagine if you cut down on certain 1024 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: areas and start applying certain things. You just got to 1025 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: be real with yourself from where you want, where you 1026 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: see yourself, because at the end of the day, you're 1027 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,439 Speaker 1: the master of your your own destiny. Right, So you're 1028 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: gonna either build some dope ship or you're gonna fall 1029 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: to the wayside. It depends how bad you want it. 1030 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: So what are you willing to sacrifice for that? So 1031 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: anyone out there that's been through. It's like, yo, nigga, 1032 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: you've been, you've been, You've been around. What do you 1033 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: what do you want to make out of it? So, 1034 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean I had to come to that sense with myself. 1035 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: So and that's when I started making better decisions for 1036 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 1: better financial situations, such. 1037 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: A financial situations. 1038 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: That's financial that situations. You have to make decisions, better 1039 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: financial decisions, you know what I'm saying in regards to 1040 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: as well as better friendships. You know, who's who can 1041 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: you allow to be around you? Who can come to 1042 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: your work environment? Who's going to help you this, Who's 1043 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: gonna who's gonna hinder this? Like as much as I 1044 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: love my brother, you just did an interview with Orlando 1045 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: that I set up for you, but like, for example, 1046 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: you know my brother. As much as I love my brother, 1047 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: he's not the one that can be around my business. 1048 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: This is my own blood, you Underseand I want to 1049 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: tell you right, you can't have people around that's going 1050 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: to do. 1051 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 3: What drain you or be negative, damn your light, all 1052 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: of the above, anything negative. After being rich and being broke, 1053 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 3: are you afraid of ever being broke again? 1054 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh? I'm so afraid of being broke again. 1055 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I've read so many decisions like listen, but 1056 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: your confidence is. 1057 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: So I'm always making money like but no, but seriously, 1058 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: it's better to have that cushion and that's ability, so 1059 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: when the famine does come, you can see you can 1060 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: coast a little bit. 1061 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1062 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: I literally just bought some glasses for a photo shoot. 1063 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 1: Spent about nine hundred and ninety five hours on these glasses, 1064 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: and took them holes back the next day. 1065 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 2: Amen, you know what I'm saying. 1066 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: I found my other iPad, my iPods that I was 1067 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: looking for. I couldn't find the ones I just bought. 1068 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: You can bring them back in two weeks. I got 1069 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: that three sixty nine back or was it two sixty nine? 1070 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, I took your speaker, which it 1071 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 2: was a it was a gift. 1072 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: It was a gift. 1073 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 3: Let's go with just let's just talk about Bad Boys 1074 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: and where people could keep up with you and catch 1075 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 3: up with you so we can close out and get 1076 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 3: you on a plane. 1077 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yes, about that time. Yeah, No, I'm really 1078 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: really excited. You know, we just dropped the trailer today 1079 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: for a Bad Boys season two Texas exactly produced by 1080 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: Natalie None, shot to zeus and let me and LJ 1081 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: and the whole team over there that produced a phenomenal show. 1082 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, it was a hostile environment, you know, 1083 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: for me, it was something different. But through my you know, 1084 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: my mental strengthness and my anger management skills, I was 1085 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: able to just stay myself as much as possible. But 1086 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: let me tell this, these motherfuckers is crazy. 1087 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: It sounded like crazy. 1088 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: No, these motherfuckers is crazy. And I just feel like, 1089 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: just being RASB, you already come in with a target 1090 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: on your back, you know what I mean. And I'm 1091 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: there to trying to, like, you know, how can we 1092 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: take this thing to the next level? How can we 1093 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: build a brand? And I feel like we we somewhat 1094 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: accomplished that, and I feel like there's there's more seasons 1095 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: that come so out. You know, I want everybody to 1096 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: subscribe me and to and then check out your boy Ras, 1097 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, and support the production because they definitely spent 1098 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: a lot of money over there. Yeah. 1099 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 3: And then and then also you can keep up with 1100 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 3: Ras online on Instagram if you really want an entertaining day, 1101 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: you'll see him dipping in out of comments and you 1102 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 3: will smart. I promised you whenever I see you in 1103 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 3: a comment section, I'm like, let's get it rasby underscore. 1104 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: B two K your boys signed off. Make sure you 1105 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: subscribe bad boys. You know what I'm saying. 1106 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 3: Eating while we broke, Eating while broke, and you will 1107 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 3: I'll get an updated eating while broke this because his 1108 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: ramen probably not going to make it in the cookbook, 1109 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 3: So we're gonna get an updated dish on his on 1110 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 3: his dish for the cookbook. 1111 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming and spending time 1112 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 2: with Thank you and hooking up. Shout outs to a 1113 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 2: RAS for or Orlando Brown everywhere. 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