Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Hey, hey, hey, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: Help all is well out there? Yeah, welcome to April
Speaker 1: number four of two, like the fourth April of No,
Speaker 1: that's the fourth month. Like, I guess it's been kind
Speaker 1: of a long year. I don't know, I have one
Speaker 1: of these things. I don't know if it's some kind
Speaker 1: of synesthisure or something, but the month numbers just feel
Speaker 1: so right, and it's just like, yeah, April feels like
Speaker 1: a four. It's probably not cyn aesthesia. It's probably just
Speaker 1: thirty plus years of associating the month, but that number,
Speaker 1: it's obviously it sounds right. It would be weird if
Speaker 1: it didn't sound arouse. Like, you know, April feels like
Speaker 1: an eight to me, but October feels like a four.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why October should feel like an eight.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right there, but it does feel like
Speaker 1: at ten. I don't know, but it's April, April Fool's Day.
Speaker 1: Apparently this episode is coming out on so oh well,
Speaker 1: we didn't even plan a joke for all, or did we?
Speaker 1: Did we? You'll never know. I'm actually Diana doing an
Speaker 1: impression of Eli right now, and vice versa. We fooled you.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that's not true because my impressions are not good.
Speaker 1: That give the give the listeners your impression of me. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's let's what do you think I sound like Diana?
Speaker 1: What do you think I sound like Diana? Oh? That
Speaker 1: sounded so mean? That sound like that? I think you
Speaker 1: sound like Um. It's very hard. I feel like I
Speaker 1: should be able to do you the best because we're
Speaker 1: around each other all the time. But it's almost making
Speaker 1: it harder because I know so many nuances of your
Speaker 1: person's here. It's tough. Okay, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 1: Here's this is eli. Okay, hey babe, Um, what do
Speaker 1: you want for breakfast this morning? Eggs? Okay? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: how how do you want your eggs? Like I ask
Speaker 1: you every morning and you just pay eggs and like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you want to cut because sometimes
Speaker 1: you want to scramble and sometimes you want to find.
Speaker 1: I was just want to say that, like, if you
Speaker 1: just tell me how you want your egg just that's
Speaker 1: the only thing I ask. That's a direct quote. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's pretty good. I mean I don't think
Speaker 1: I got your intonation very good. But the energy behind
Speaker 1: the words. I think I really nailed it. Sounded more
Speaker 1: frustrated than I intended to sound. I think sometimes you
Speaker 1: just frustrating. It was the same level of frustration that
Speaker 1: I was feeling. So it can't you can't. Your communication
Speaker 1: was good then, because it came across I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I ask you every day what you want for breakfast,
Speaker 1: and your answer is always eggs, And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know that. That's the easy part. That's the one I
Speaker 1: didn't even have to ask. Well, sometimes I don't know
Speaker 1: how I want them yet, I think I just think
Speaker 1: of the egg and insistency that I wanted my mouth right.
Speaker 1: I think it was because today you said eggs and
Speaker 1: I just said m and I waited, and then you
Speaker 1: went to the other room and you sat down on
Speaker 1: the couch answer the question over here. That was pretty good.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. Can I hear your impression of
Speaker 1: my impression of you? My heart can handle it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: um m m. That's not that's what I hear. How
Speaker 1: is that not what you think you sound sound like?
Speaker 1: To you? Oh man? All right, legit, all right, here's
Speaker 1: my impression of you. Um And then she's like looking
Speaker 1: at her phone. She never answers the question. It's like
Speaker 1: I'll say, hey, what do you want to do and
Speaker 1: you'll say um, and that's the last I'll hear you
Speaker 1: say for the next forty five minutes. I'll say, hey,
Speaker 1: remember when I asked you what you want to do?
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, yeah, I forgot um. So you
Speaker 1: can't see the look that I'm giving him. I promise
Speaker 1: you that it is withering to feel withered, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But oh, come on, enough about us, right, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds good. I'd like less of that one that was
Speaker 1: We're you know, we're We're not the ridiculous romance you
Speaker 1: came here to hear about. No, Today, we have a
Speaker 1: very interesting story. This episode was suggested to us by
Speaker 1: Samantha M on Instagram. Uh, your handle is at sam
Speaker 1: c Colmes. So thank you Samantha for this little rabbit
Speaker 1: hole down. This is a nice one to get to
Speaker 1: ease back into our biographies, to write tell a historical
Speaker 1: tale that's, you know, somewhat centered around romance in its
Speaker 1: own special way. Well, and funnily enough, we did not
Speaker 1: plan this, but this happens to be also about a
Speaker 1: big slap that was heard about the world. So it
Speaker 1: definitely is playing into some topical things. Yeah, sure, this
Speaker 1: story is about Victor Noir and more importantly, his grave.
Speaker 1: So Victor Noir was just a journalist in eighteen sixty
Speaker 1: nine France. He was writing for a republican newspaper who
Speaker 1: criticized Bonaparte rule and in life just kind of a
Speaker 1: regular guy. In death, he became a revolutionary symbol. But
Speaker 1: it was after he was buried that really cemented his
Speaker 1: place in history and got him an episode on Ridiculous Romance.
Speaker 1: So let's hear about how this average everyday journalist became
Speaker 1: an enduring fertility symbol. Hey, their French come listen. Well,
Speaker 1: Elia and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking,
Speaker 1: a romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships, a love.
Speaker 1: It might be any type of version at all, and
Speaker 1: that's drive cons concrete wall. But if there's a story
Speaker 1: where the second clinch ridiculous roles a production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. So let's start with a little bit about
Speaker 1: the French Revolution. Like, we can't get on this show
Speaker 1: without talking about the French Revolution. Every five weeks, you
Speaker 1: know how how often it hits Like even Governor Morris
Speaker 1: was had some French Revolution in it. So many of
Speaker 1: our episodes. Look, I'll tell you it's it's we try
Speaker 1: to like really spread ourselves across the world and hit
Speaker 1: different cultures and different ideas and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you cannot talk about
Speaker 1: absurd romantic stories without being heavily involved with the French.
Speaker 1: Very true, Yeah, extremely true. So we're just gonna keep
Speaker 1: coming back here. I love it, I know, right, So, yes,
Speaker 1: So the French Revolution began in eight nine. They overthrew
Speaker 1: King Louis, who met his end by the guillotine along
Speaker 1: with his Queen Marie Antoinette, and we have had several
Speaker 1: requests for a King Louis Marie Antoinette episode. We're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna have to tackle this history a little more fully
Speaker 1: when we do that couple. We will, we will, because
Speaker 1: obviously very much affected their lives. But just quickly we'll say,
Speaker 1: just sketch it out for you here. France became heavily
Speaker 1: bankrupted because they assisted the American Revolution oopsie, sorry, but
Speaker 1: also because of the profly gets spending by the king,
Speaker 1: so not just our fault. Heavy taxes were imposed on
Speaker 1: the working class to make up for this. But they
Speaker 1: didn't get any relief or assistance for their money, so
Speaker 1: they got super piste, like we all do when we
Speaker 1: have we're in the bad end of a bed. You're
Speaker 1: telling me the French government, any government, went out spent
Speaker 1: a bunch of money on a war they practically had
Speaker 1: no business getting involved with, and then and then tax
Speaker 1: the people for it, and they got mad that they
Speaker 1: put the whole bill on them. Yeah, I've never heard
Speaker 1: such a thing, and they got mad about it. I've
Speaker 1: never heard such nonsense. I barely believe it. My head
Speaker 1: is spinning. So yeah, they're all piste, working classes, piste.
Speaker 1: All these royal advisors saw how bad it was getting,
Speaker 1: so they got together and they're like, the coming theres
Speaker 1: are getting angry is that we are taking all their
Speaker 1: money but giving nothing in re turnes. The coming hours.
Speaker 1: They are so petty. And there's one thing poor people
Speaker 1: like to do. It's complained about being poor. Alright, come on,
Speaker 1: it's like we get it already, get over it. Well,
Speaker 1: we must do something. What if we get the money
Speaker 1: we need from people who have money to spare? You
Speaker 1: mean tax so wealthy? Oh you're so crazy. I love it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, Melcy. But of course the actual wealthy
Speaker 1: French people did not respond like that. They responded more like,
Speaker 1: he wait a minute, just because I am raping the
Speaker 1: benefits of living in this country, and this country is
Speaker 1: in that our need of financialistic stars right now, and
Speaker 1: I have more money than I know what to do with.
Speaker 1: Why should I be the one to step up? Seems
Speaker 1: very wood Yes, So what is this communist country of
Speaker 1: some sort? I mean, soon there's the government, there's out
Speaker 1: of cheddar let's meetre. Nobody's gotten in trouble for saying
Speaker 1: something like that before in France, so King Louis basically
Speaker 1: he was getting shipped from rich and poor like. So
Speaker 1: they tried to place this land tax on the wealthy.
Speaker 1: The wealthy were like no, now, so anyway, he wants
Speaker 1: everyone to pay. Nobody wants to pay tailors old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody is happy when the government's taking their money, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1: And eventually this all came to a head, so to speak,
Speaker 1: with a lot of murders of royalty and nobility, Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot, many many men, a lot of murders. But
Speaker 1: of course a revolution, you know, they're messy, it's not
Speaker 1: a it's not a quick clean act. As we've seen,
Speaker 1: power loves a vacuum. So once there was no king, um,
Speaker 1: once the crown had been removed, so to speak, and
Speaker 1: what kind of government did the French people want? Right
Speaker 1: at first they thought that we were going to be
Speaker 1: totally cool with a constitutional monarchy, which is where you
Speaker 1: have a king or queen said on the throne. But
Speaker 1: they have to co rule with a constitutionally organized government
Speaker 1: that was more representative of the people. Yeah, it kind
Speaker 1: of sounds like the Queen of England sort of yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're here, but it's not like you can just
Speaker 1: waive your scepter and things happen for you. You've got
Speaker 1: to deal with representatives as well. So after killing just
Speaker 1: an absolute ton of people, a boatload, a bit, well
Speaker 1: a big boat, over seventeen thousand people were tried and
Speaker 1: executed in only a ten month period, and this is
Speaker 1: what's now called the Reign of Terror. But after this,
Speaker 1: a five member directory was created and these directors were
Speaker 1: appointed by Parliament. But of course these directors were inept
Speaker 1: and corrupt, and they relied pretty hard on the army,
Speaker 1: which was led by a young general named Napoleon Buonaparte,
Speaker 1: and they used him to maintain their power. But eventually, unsurprisingly,
Speaker 1: Napoleon was probably looking around like, hmm, it seems like
Speaker 1: I'm the real power here, right, so he went ahead
Speaker 1: at stage Acuta appointed himself France's first consul and then
Speaker 1: created France into an empire and crowned himself emperor. And
Speaker 1: this was the start of imperial rule in France, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of people were not cool with is because
Speaker 1: imperial rules a lot like a monarchy, not much different
Speaker 1: one guy with a scepter. Okay, so kind of were
Speaker 1: like get melted down all the scepters, sort over the scepter,
Speaker 1: look going for a different esthetic now. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: you see, every time someone becomes emperor, they always crowned themselves.
Speaker 1: It's never like a group decision to have an emperor.
Speaker 1: It's always one guy saying, yeah, I'm going to do
Speaker 1: this now. So obviously some people are upset about it. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, these folks that did not get to say,
Speaker 1: I imagine and who got to be emperor or whether
Speaker 1: there even was one. They were still hoping to establish
Speaker 1: France as a republic of the people. You know, and
Speaker 1: this clash eventually led to a Second French Revolution in
Speaker 1: eighty eight, when King Louis Philippe, the first constitutional monarchy
Speaker 1: was overthrown and Napoleon Bonaparte's nephew, Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, was
Speaker 1: elected president. Okay, so Louis Bonaparte, this guy was popular,
Speaker 1: he had some good ideas, but you know, power went
Speaker 1: to his head. He kind of turned himself into an
Speaker 1: authoritarian president. But he wasn't even happy with that level
Speaker 1: of power. So not long after his election, he just
Speaker 1: like his uncle, launched a coup d eta, reformed the
Speaker 1: constitution and crowned himself Emperor of France, Napoleon the Third. Him, oh,
Speaker 1: Napoleon the Third. If you remember from our brief little
Speaker 1: episode about Maximilian and Carlotta of Mexico, not in depth
Speaker 1: at all, he's the one who sent them over to
Speaker 1: rule Mexico as an empire. Now, plenty of people who
Speaker 1: had previously supported Prince President Louis Napoleon Bonaparte did not
Speaker 1: approve of Emperor Napoleon the Third. They were like, you
Speaker 1: want to be a prince, you want to be a president? Great,
Speaker 1: we love that, Oh, you want to crown yourself emperor
Speaker 1: A not so sure as his views a little like
Speaker 1: something I do not like. Bit dicey. Right, So how
Speaker 1: did these people express their displeasure? Well, the best way
Speaker 1: you could back then with newspapers. The Fourth of the
Speaker 1: States sounds like we're mocking the press and actue appreciate,
Speaker 1: but kind of like now, I guess you could say,
Speaker 1: or any time in history, there's plenty of newspapers that
Speaker 1: had very, very skewed bias in their news. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there were two such newspapers. They were radical Republican newspapers
Speaker 1: called La Ravanche and La Marseilles. They were owned by
Speaker 1: Henri Rochefort and edited by Pascal Gruse. And fun fact,
Speaker 1: Pascal Gruse actually wrote sci fi novels, including one about
Speaker 1: like how they wanted to they were launching a mission
Speaker 1: to like bring the moon closer to the Earth or something.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of that, but I love that.
Speaker 1: In the eighteen you know of sixties, he's I guess
Speaker 1: there was actually after this was probably eighteen eighties, eighteen nineties.
Speaker 1: He's thinking all these same kind of things about space,
Speaker 1: and that's really cool. He collaborated with Jules Verne quite
Speaker 1: a lot. He was the first to translate Treasure Island
Speaker 1: into French. So kind of a cool guy. But at
Speaker 1: this point in history, he's like editing these radical newspapers.
Speaker 1: He's trying to influence politics and get away from an
Speaker 1: imperial government. And one of the newspapers employees was a
Speaker 1: writer named Victor Noir. Victor was born even Salmon in
Speaker 1: northeast France in eighteen forty eight. He was the son
Speaker 1: of a Jewish cobbler who had converted to Catholicism. So wait,
Speaker 1: this guy's name was Evan Salomon, and he thought, no, no, man,
Speaker 1: I need a cooler name than that. What about Victor Noir?
Speaker 1: I know, right, like in the dit in the shadows,
Speaker 1: like he's like a batman, right, he's doing like a
Speaker 1: deep throat thing. Or No, it's said that he liked
Speaker 1: to stand so that half his face was always the whole. Wow, Victor,
Speaker 1: find your light? No. When he decided to become a
Speaker 1: writer after first trying and failing to be a watchmaker
Speaker 1: and then a florist, which I wanted, how you failed
Speaker 1: at being a florist? Look, I would fail at being
Speaker 1: a flora. I have tried just to be a florist
Speaker 1: at home. That's so true, you know. You say that,
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. I have no greens on myself,
Speaker 1: so maybe he just killed all plants like um. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: he decided I'm going to become a writer. He chose
Speaker 1: the pen name Victor Noir after his mother's maid a name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he still thought that's name Victor. So anyway, A
Speaker 1: lot of Marseilles was Victor Noir's first apprenticeship as a journalist,
Speaker 1: and apparently it wasn't really much of a revolutionary or
Speaker 1: republican like. I don't think he really cared about politics
Speaker 1: at all, either in word or action. He was just
Speaker 1: but he was paid basically just like you know what,
Speaker 1: a job's a job. Whoever wants to hire me, I'm
Speaker 1: here to check. So. In December of eighteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: La Ravone published an article railing against the imperial rule
Speaker 1: of Napoleon the Third and of Napoleon the First, and
Speaker 1: of basically just about everything that's happened since the First Revolution,
Speaker 1: on the website Marxist dot org. Prosper Olivier la Sagaret
Speaker 1: wrote that the bourgeois of France quote allow Napoleon the third,
Speaker 1: to plunder France, make her the vassal of Rome, dishonor
Speaker 1: her in Mexico, ruined her finances, vulgarized, debaucherie, harsh indeed,
Speaker 1: And these aren't words from the actual piece in La Ravanche.
Speaker 1: This was again written later, um, but we kind of
Speaker 1: chose these because they sort of contextualized the fight that
Speaker 1: was going on, the kind of tone that was going
Speaker 1: on in the newspaper at the time. These were the
Speaker 1: complaints that the revolutionaries had against Napoleon the Third. So
Speaker 1: the piece in La Ravanche was inspired from afar by
Speaker 1: Pascal Grouse was probably just like, hey, you know, read
Speaker 1: a piece about Napoleon sucks. And one of the writers
Speaker 1: was like, I'm on it. Oh, I'm ready, I'm sharpening
Speaker 1: my pen nibs right now. That publish that. Well, as usual,
Speaker 1: not everybody liked this little op ed, least of all
Speaker 1: a guy named Prince Pierre Bonaparte maybe why that's that
Speaker 1: old name there. Pierre was the pompous nephew of Napoleon
Speaker 1: the First, He was the cousin of Napoleon the third,
Speaker 1: and at least at first he had actually been on
Speaker 1: the side of the Republicans. He was not very supportive
Speaker 1: of Emperor Napoleon, not down with this whole empire thing. No,
Speaker 1: as a as a politician, when he was active in politics,
Speaker 1: he actually was like, oh, that coup was not cool.
Speaker 1: He voted with the socialists. He was just very much
Speaker 1: about the Republic of France, very publicly, and apparently that
Speaker 1: kind of helped Napoleon's presidential campaign for for his you know,
Speaker 1: relative to be out there being like, yeah, part rule,
Speaker 1: but as a president republic, everything's going to be great. Yes.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as Napoleon was like, actually I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be an emperor Napoleon the Third, Pierre was like boo,
Speaker 1: not cool. But then Napoleon the Third went over to
Speaker 1: Pierre and was like, hey, um, what about if I
Speaker 1: made you a prince? And suddenly Pierre's politics took a
Speaker 1: giant swing in another direction unknown reasons. I'm sure actually
Speaker 1: I was wrong. It turns out that the Emperor Napoleon
Speaker 1: is a great idea. Everybody'll be on board. By the way,
Speaker 1: call me prince turns out being a monarch pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they reconciled. Pierre accepted the title of prince.
Speaker 1: After that, Obviously, the radical Republicans were like, um, okay,
Speaker 1: they dropped this guy like a bad habit. He went
Speaker 1: on to lead kind of a hedonistic life. He wrote
Speaker 1: some mediocre poems. He did nothing of political importance at
Speaker 1: all except for what's about to go down. So let's
Speaker 1: find out more about that after a little break. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show. Everyone. Okay, so are boy Pierre
Speaker 1: the cousin of Napoleon the third, but now prince He's
Speaker 1: pissed about this menal piece of writing about his family
Speaker 1: that's going around in law Vane right this this article
Speaker 1: it's written, that's totally decrying all of the imperial stuff
Speaker 1: that's been going on with the Bonapartes. So he decides
Speaker 1: to do some writing of his own. Time for a
Speaker 1: strongly worded letters. He picks up a quill. A few
Speaker 1: days after love valance article came out, his response was
Speaker 1: published as a letter to the editor in the rival
Speaker 1: newspaper Levanier de la Course, which was loyal to the Emperor.
Speaker 1: He denounced the rights and the editors of La Vane
Speaker 1: as cowards and traders. Well, that, of course really piste
Speaker 1: off Pascal Grouse over at La Ravanche, and he demanded satisfaction,
Speaker 1: he challenged Pierre to a duel. This is like if
Speaker 1: if I don't know, if like Dawn Lemon right and
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity and Sean Hannity, we're like, I challenged you
Speaker 1: to a duel. That's an overreaction. So Pierre was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm down to fight somebody, but not Pascal. He wanted
Speaker 1: to face his fellow nobleman on Ri Rochefort would have
Speaker 1: been the guy, like the head hauncho over there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who owned the paper. So Pierre wrote in a letter
Speaker 1: to Rochefort, quote, after having outraged each of my relations,
Speaker 1: you insult me with the pen of one of your menials.
Speaker 1: My turn had to come only I having the advantage
Speaker 1: over others of my name of being a private individual
Speaker 1: while being upon the part, I therefore ask you whether
Speaker 1: your ink pot is guaranteed by your breast. I live
Speaker 1: not in a palace, but at fifty nine rude dotweel.
Speaker 1: I promise to you that if you present yourself, you
Speaker 1: will not be told that I had left. Damn. So
Speaker 1: He's literally like, I want to make sure they you're
Speaker 1: asking cash that check? O't and I ain't no fancy,
Speaker 1: you know, emperor king up in a palace somewhere. Here's
Speaker 1: my address. Come see me. Guess what. I'm not gonna run.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get there and find out that I'm Oh,
Speaker 1: he's out right now. He can't see you. He says,
Speaker 1: I'm going to meet you on the street. I'm ready
Speaker 1: and waiting. Some harsh words. Harsh words. Well, Pascal was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what, I don't care you
Speaker 1: want to fight an I'm the one challenging you, and
Speaker 1: I'm still standing by my challenge. I will come to
Speaker 1: dotwheel up too sweet. So Pascal selected his seconds, Ulric
Speaker 1: defon Vier and Victor Noir. Victor Noir, that's our guy.
Speaker 1: And both these guys were employed at the newspaper, and
Speaker 1: they both clearly were in dire need of the linn.
Speaker 1: Manuel Miranda penned ten Dual Commandment song because they clearly
Speaker 1: had no idea what they were doing. Those rules lay
Speaker 1: it out very clearly. It's true, and there's some accuracy
Speaker 1: in them from our research. True, there's actually way more
Speaker 1: than ten. By the way, many many more about all
Speaker 1: kinds of ways you can apologize, When to apologize, how
Speaker 1: to apologize and apology. It's very kind of takes the
Speaker 1: fun out of it little bit. But if you're going
Speaker 1: to like use a gun to solve every imagined or
Speaker 1: real slight upon you or your family, I guess it
Speaker 1: makes sense to have a lot of roles about it.
Speaker 1: Rule number one, don't use a gun. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: we talk it out, agree to disagree, agree to d so.
Speaker 1: One of the rules, one of the many rules of dueling,
Speaker 1: is that your seconds confer with the other guys seconds,
Speaker 1: and they try to solve the dispute without ever going
Speaker 1: to the dueling fields. There's a reconciliation has to be
Speaker 1: worked on first, and that's kind of how most duels ended.
Speaker 1: Many duels never ended up actually being, you know, meeting
Speaker 1: on the field at sunrise and ten paces apart and
Speaker 1: all that. Ship. Mostly they ended with like, alright, fine,
Speaker 1: I'm over it was the time. Yeah, I mean, especially
Speaker 1: if you know you weren't sure about your skill versus
Speaker 1: the other guy, gil um. So. Yeah, most duels did
Speaker 1: not end very bloodily or anything like that. But Victor
Speaker 1: and Ulric didn't conform to these rules. They skipped the
Speaker 1: seconds completely and they went straight to Pierre's house to
Speaker 1: talk to him personally. In Januar seventy. They confronted him
Speaker 1: directly at his home, and apparently they both showed up armed.
Speaker 1: Al Ric had a revolver and Victor had a sword cane,
Speaker 1: which is cool. According to Ulric de Fonvier, Pierre was
Speaker 1: offended that they weren't following the dueling customs, and he
Speaker 1: didn't want to deal with these menials as they were
Speaker 1: calling them. But these these minions, so he was more
Speaker 1: than happy to duel his fellow nobleman Rochefort, as he
Speaker 1: said in his letter. But Cruse and the rest could
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, right. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like dealing with you. You're nobody to me. I could
Speaker 1: kill all three of you, and I'm still not going
Speaker 1: to be satisfied. So why don't you just get out
Speaker 1: the way, Let the grown ups handle it. Y'all get
Speaker 1: out of here. So he then slapped the twenty two
Speaker 1: year old Victor in the face and shot him dead. Now,
Speaker 1: according to Pierre, Vic Dirt was offended at being called
Speaker 1: a menial, and he slapped Pierre in the face, whereupon
Speaker 1: Pierre shot him dead in response. Now, this was the
Speaker 1: version that was eventually accepted by the court. And all
Speaker 1: we can think is that if only if only their
Speaker 1: slap had been as widely televised as another slap that
Speaker 1: we could say that was heard around the world, there
Speaker 1: would be so many terrible takes. Everybody would have published
Speaker 1: a letter in response. Well, kind of like that, this
Speaker 1: incident was immediately politicized. People were furious about a journalist
Speaker 1: being killed at the hands of an imperial prince, and
Speaker 1: Victor Noir became a symbol of revolutionary politics, like it
Speaker 1: basically became sort of mandatory, was like civic duty for
Speaker 1: any Republican to attend his funeral um, and there was
Speaker 1: apparently that like a funeral proSP sh of a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand or some sources say two hundred thousand people that
Speaker 1: like showed up to more in Victor Noir and his
Speaker 1: martyrdom for the revolution. Right, And this was a guy
Speaker 1: who just happened to take this job. He didn't even
Speaker 1: care that much about the politics. But because of because
Speaker 1: a imperial prince shot him dead, he's he's this symbol
Speaker 1: without ever having meant to be. Yeah. Also, anytime a
Speaker 1: Republican stood for election, they basically had to say the
Speaker 1: slogan a combo Victor Noir, which means he was in
Speaker 1: Victor Noir's convoy and I think probably more accurate translation
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I was in the procession, I
Speaker 1: followed Victor Noir. I'm a fan of Victor Noir. I
Speaker 1: stand with Victor Noir. Um, so yeah right away, like
Speaker 1: literally before he's cold. You know, he's a huge revolutionary symbol.
Speaker 1: They all had to put that hashtag in their Twitter bios,
Speaker 1: and when Pierre was ultimately acquitted of murder at his trial,
Speaker 1: there was a huge outcry and a number of violent demonstrations.
Speaker 1: According to Andy Royston's piece Scandal in the Graveyard on
Speaker 1: jack quo dot com, the jury during this trial heard
Speaker 1: Victor Noir quote portrayed as a thug who assisted various
Speaker 1: Republican writers to go around and beat up opponents or
Speaker 1: people they disliked with impunity. Medical evidence showed that Noir,
Speaker 1: far from just slapping Prince Pierre, hit such a blow
Speaker 1: on his cheek as to cause it to swell, so
Speaker 1: maybe punched him rolled hard. So they dismissed the murder
Speaker 1: charge as self defense. I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 1: if you're in self defense, like your defense should match
Speaker 1: the aggression that you're defending against instead of like, oh,
Speaker 1: someone slapped me, so I shot him dead that he's
Speaker 1: like noted he might have slapt me again. Then I
Speaker 1: would be slapt twice. I had to do whatever I
Speaker 1: could prevent that outcome. Outcome. Oh man, yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I also just like I'm seeing this slap, punch in
Speaker 1: the face and this prince just you. I've never why,
Speaker 1: I never I'm going to shoot you? Did I don't know?
Speaker 1: Way's British all of a sudden, but what happened. It's
Speaker 1: just he slapped the French out of him. You slapped
Speaker 1: the French out of me, my goodness. So yeah, Pierre
Speaker 1: basically walks away free of charge, no problem for him. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: La Ravange was seized by the government and Henri Rochefort
Speaker 1: and Pascal Grouse both went to prison for six months each. Well,
Speaker 1: you know when your imperial government, when you're the Pere government,
Speaker 1: and one of your princes gets away with murder and
Speaker 1: then the newspaper that was speaking out against you gets
Speaker 1: shut down and its editors arrested. That's just that's the
Speaker 1: that's the system. That's fair legal system, fair trial. Clearly
Speaker 1: nothing going in anyone's favor on this one. No strings
Speaker 1: being pulled. What did they go to prison for? I
Speaker 1: have to I'm like, for having a paper. Let's just
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I guess they're like and re roach
Speaker 1: for particularly didn't have much of a part to play
Speaker 1: in this that this guy wanted to pick a fight
Speaker 1: with him. So I'm like, that guy was probably like
Speaker 1: hanging out eating dinner or something, and suddenly I watch.
Speaker 1: What's funny about all this is that it kind of
Speaker 1: ended up not mattering very much because later in eighteen seventy,
Speaker 1: the Franco Prussian War led to the overthrow of Napoleon
Speaker 1: the Third They established the Third Republic, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the end of the story until Victor Noir's body
Speaker 1: was moved to the pair l Ches Cemetery in eighteen nine.
Speaker 1: Do you want so, let's find out more about that
Speaker 1: after this short break. Welcome back to the show, everybody.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we know what you're thinking here, right,
Speaker 1: Where the hell is the romance? I know, with a
Speaker 1: two commercial breaks and nothing sexy? Right, this is all
Speaker 1: just a bunch of dudes running around slapping each other.
Speaker 1: There's nothing sexy about that. Yeah, what's hot about that?
Speaker 1: All right? Okay, here it comes. This is where it
Speaker 1: gets good because in the Third Republic decided that they
Speaker 1: needed to create a new monument to Victor's martyrdom. They're thinking,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who who died trying to stand
Speaker 1: up uh to imperial you know, to the to the
Speaker 1: to an imperial prince trying to push people around. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to stand up for freedom of speech, and
Speaker 1: he died in the process. So they built this new
Speaker 1: monument for him in pair La Chase Cemetery and this
Speaker 1: is going to be sculpted I Juse delu Jules decided
Speaker 1: to cast Victor in bronze in a realistic style. He
Speaker 1: would be on his back as though he had just
Speaker 1: fallen on the street, dropping his hat beside him. Cool statues.
Speaker 1: He just didn't look like he had just been shot
Speaker 1: at right, really immortalized like his martyrdom, like the moment
Speaker 1: where it all happened, you know, and not just a
Speaker 1: guy standing there like any other dude, just standing there.
Speaker 1: But it's well made to a lot of good details,
Speaker 1: close and everything and so hard. But a lot of
Speaker 1: times you make in these metal and rock these beautiful
Speaker 1: layers and clothes, like soft looking clothes and veils and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's very Sculpture is my my I get my favorite
Speaker 1: art form. I don't know. It's the one that consistently
Speaker 1: I am blown away by every piece of sculpture I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. It's seriously like if you have a piece
Speaker 1: of a rock or a piece of metal and you
Speaker 1: I mean paper clip animals and I'm like, wow, what
Speaker 1: a bull. This was just a paper clip and now
Speaker 1: it looks like a giraffe. I am amazed. So Delu
Speaker 1: makes this sculpture. Andy Royston writes, quote, he was now
Speaker 1: a romantic heroic figure, quite unlike how he had been
Speaker 1: in real life. As we talked about like Pierre, you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't even really trying to do anything. He just
Speaker 1: happened to get killed in such a way that made
Speaker 1: him a martyr for the Republic. Now, this statue did
Speaker 1: have a unique feature because, for whatever reason, Jules Delu
Speaker 1: gave Victor a pretty sizeable bulge in the crotch of
Speaker 1: his pants. He's laying back, dropping his hat. He's presumably
Speaker 1: has just been shot a semi but but Victors, like,
Speaker 1: you know, let's give him a little boost here, let's
Speaker 1: give him a little reputational boost. I guess. Let me
Speaker 1: pull into speculation station, and I want to know. I
Speaker 1: want to speculate why he chose to give him a bulge.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was just like really realistic and
Speaker 1: he's like, this is what it looks like when a
Speaker 1: man lays down. There's something his pants. Yeah, we all
Speaker 1: know that there's a bulge there. Whatever. Or do you
Speaker 1: think he was like, man, this guy was a real martyr.
Speaker 1: You know what, I want to give him some big
Speaker 1: dick energy. Hey, you know what I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: Jules Deliu himself was quite well endowed, and he didn't
Speaker 1: know any better. He didn't know the difference. He was like,
Speaker 1: this is what it looks like when you lie down.
Speaker 1: I don't know, You've got this huge mountain of your
Speaker 1: pants and you cannot hide it. Victor in Death is like, wow,
Speaker 1: but thank you thanks to this defining feature of this sculpture.
Speaker 1: A myth kind of grew about his his monuments, his monuments,
Speaker 1: his monagement and this is this myth kind of maybe
Speaker 1: started maybe around the nineteen seventies. Hard to peg peg
Speaker 1: They of dicks in the nineteen seventies, so of course
Speaker 1: every statue that they could find it like, how does
Speaker 1: he look? How is it? Oh, this one's pretty good compelling.
Speaker 1: So this myth grew that if women kissed his bronze
Speaker 1: lips and rubbed on his bronze bulge, uh, they would
Speaker 1: get married within the year. And then that myth grew
Speaker 1: even further to include all kinds of good things that
Speaker 1: could happen, including getting pregnant, falling in love um or
Speaker 1: just having a blissful and idyllic sex life now on,
Speaker 1: just from rubbing this guy's I know, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: did Victor Noir have anything to do with sex at all?
Speaker 1: So funny, but this all happened because of this bulge.
Speaker 1: I guess everybody's eyes were just immediately drawn to this
Speaker 1: one area of the sculpture. The story also goes that
Speaker 1: Victor was supposedly um supposed to get married the day
Speaker 1: after he was shot. Maybe that contributed, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: find any verification for that, so it might just be
Speaker 1: part of the whole fertility myths around it grew around
Speaker 1: it that that he was like, yeah, has some romance
Speaker 1: going on in his life or something like that. But again,
Speaker 1: there's really not a lot to back that up. When
Speaker 1: you have kind of of a loosely formed story, you know,
Speaker 1: it's easy for other facts to kind of come in
Speaker 1: and penetrate it. They can really just like poke up
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Um kind of surprise you. You can
Speaker 1: just insert anything into a pocket like that. Um. So.
Speaker 1: At any rate, this fertility myth has made Victor Noir's
Speaker 1: grave one of the most popular to visit in the
Speaker 1: Pairless Chase Cemetery, which is saying a lot considering the
Speaker 1: amount of celebrities that are buried there. What is it?
Speaker 1: Morrison and Oscar Wilde. Women will visit and passionately kiss
Speaker 1: his mouth. They will get up on the statue and
Speaker 1: like grind up on him. They'll give the bulge a
Speaker 1: little caress just with their fingertips, maybe if they're shy,
Speaker 1: some women a little shyer than others, I imagine. And
Speaker 1: the rest of his statue is that gray green color, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is a name. I didn't know this.
Speaker 1: It's called vertegree. The color like the way the statue
Speaker 1: of Liberty looks now, used to be bronze, obviously a
Speaker 1: different color m but it gets oxidized it turned into
Speaker 1: this gray green color we're all very familiar with. So
Speaker 1: Victor's whole statue is this Vertegree color except for his
Speaker 1: mouth and his bulge, which are noticeably shinier than the
Speaker 1: rest from all of the contact with human hands. And
Speaker 1: this is just a funny thing about bronze statues. You
Speaker 1: can find this. Statues of dogs particularly has this because
Speaker 1: people will pet their heads or their noses, which I
Speaker 1: think it's so cute. It's such a human thing to
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, a cute dog, even though it's
Speaker 1: not a real dog, just like pet him. And quite
Speaker 1: a few statues will have kisses on their lips or
Speaker 1: you can have any kind of sexual part. You can
Speaker 1: see what people like to touch on them. So this
Speaker 1: is happening to Victor's grave, and all the pictures are
Speaker 1: just so obvious. It's very funny. And also, once you're
Speaker 1: satisfied visited Victor and you've rubbed up on him however
Speaker 1: you want, once Victor's given you all he can give,
Speaker 1: all he can give you, you are supposed to leave
Speaker 1: a flower in his hand or in his hat to
Speaker 1: thank him for his services. That's polite, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: think that's such a nice touch. You gotta show up
Speaker 1: with a flower. You're not just supposed to grind up
Speaker 1: on a guy leave him feeling cheap. You gotta show appreciation. Um.
Speaker 1: So if you happen to go to pair Laches and
Speaker 1: there's a rose or two in Victor's hat, he got
Speaker 1: some that day, baby. Wow. I'm wondering about, uh, this
Speaker 1: is just women like you know, if I'm feeling frisky
Speaker 1: and I want to boost my sex life, can I
Speaker 1: can I go, uh give give myself a ride on
Speaker 1: on Victor's grave here's grave. I have to wonder that too,
Speaker 1: because I mean it does say women particularly um to
Speaker 1: get married within the year. That's sort of where the
Speaker 1: story started. So I wonder if it's just yeah, if
Speaker 1: it's just about getting pregnant, you know, just very women
Speaker 1: based things. Well, but I think you're right. It's surely
Speaker 1: plenty of men would be interested in in an idyllic
Speaker 1: sex life. And of course we know not just women
Speaker 1: can get pregnant. So I suppose anybody can go have
Speaker 1: a ride, have a good time with Victor. I wonder
Speaker 1: if anyone's written this face and kissed his bolt, you know,
Speaker 1: switched it up a little bit. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say definitely, yes, you're probably right. If you can think,
Speaker 1: if you can dream, it's someone now, Okay, may be
Speaker 1: in all this you're like me and you're thinking, I
Speaker 1: don't why am I going to kiss the same statue
Speaker 1: that for decades now does hundreds, maybe thousands of people
Speaker 1: have been putting their lips on as well. Diseases, right,
Speaker 1: just just the transfer of saliva in general. Against in
Speaker 1: that respect, I am against it, but at least in
Speaker 1: terms of the diseases. Fortunately, you may have learned this
Speaker 1: in recent years during the pandemic because I have copper
Speaker 1: and it's alloys bronze and brass are antimicrobial. They apparently
Speaker 1: kill nine percent of bacteria. But it does take within
Speaker 1: two hours for that to happen. So maybe if you're
Speaker 1: in line to give old Victorius smooch here on his
Speaker 1: face or bulge, maybe maybe give it a couple hours
Speaker 1: before before the last the last person. Yeah, I imagine
Speaker 1: someone in line, like there's a big crowd, keep trying
Speaker 1: to well, I'll wait, I'll wait a minute. All sits up,
Speaker 1: and they're just there all night. Tend to get out
Speaker 1: there like waiting watching their cloth. I like this idea
Speaker 1: in our head that there is constantly like a ninety
Speaker 1: person line outside that's grave. It can't be that. I
Speaker 1: seriously doubt it. But in my mind, it's just an
Speaker 1: enormous crowd right every day since n just at least
Speaker 1: fifty people crowding around. But then around two thousand four
Speaker 1: two thousand five, cemetery management got kind of over it.
Speaker 1: They were a little upset about all these women getting
Speaker 1: up and literally grinding on this tomb. So they put
Speaker 1: a fence around Victor's grave, along with a sign warning
Speaker 1: that they would prosecute any damage caused by quote indecent rubbing.
Speaker 1: So France's biggest buzz kills coming in and saying, stop
Speaker 1: disgracing this poor man's grave. You know that grave? The
Speaker 1: grave maintenance workers just like God, damn it every time
Speaker 1: I try to go there, and the grass some crazy
Speaker 1: trying to have a good sex life. Meanwhile, if if
Speaker 1: desecrating a grave does matter to someone in the afterlife,
Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if Victor is not looking down
Speaker 1: and being like, no, take the fence down, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? I've ever got He's like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to grind on me in life. I've been
Speaker 1: getting a steady trickle since trickle. But here's the kicker.
Speaker 1: A well known Paris TV reporter named Perry coshin lad
Speaker 1: this kind of tongue in cheek protest that allowed women
Speaker 1: to put their tongues on Victor's cheeks. And even though
Speaker 1: this was like actually something kind of a joke, like
Speaker 1: this protest wasn't really happening, it was sort of like
Speaker 1: a fake report about it happening, the cemetery took the
Speaker 1: fence down, which I love it. It's like all these
Speaker 1: women are very upset about this and they're enraged. The
Speaker 1: cemeteries are okay, fine, take it down. What harm could
Speaker 1: it do? And I oh and famously Dita Vontiste did
Speaker 1: go visit Victor Noir as well. I guess after the
Speaker 1: fence came down. And there's lots of pictures of her,
Speaker 1: you know, sexily grabbing a space sexily, you know, sexily.
Speaker 1: That's a word, right, tells you a sexy sexually? I
Speaker 1: do think around here, say it to me sexily, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about what it's like. Yeah, okay, fine, seductively grabbing
Speaker 1: his face and and jumping up on him and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So if you want to see those, they're
Speaker 1: pretty hot. That's amazing. I can't believe we went to
Speaker 1: pair Leches and we didn't notice a guy with the
Speaker 1: gleaming bronze bulge. All right, as like, so, I wish
Speaker 1: we had on this podcast before we gone to Paralles
Speaker 1: because it would visit many different graves now than we
Speaker 1: did when we were there. Once again, we'll we'll just
Speaker 1: have to come back. I'll have to petition the government
Speaker 1: of France to bring us over. So if you're in
Speaker 1: the government of France and you want to sponsor our
Speaker 1: trip to Paris, please contact us. I did. We did
Speaker 1: have one listener reach out and say something about how
Speaker 1: we should do a tour of France and French history,
Speaker 1: and I was like, please, that comessolutely amazing. The problem
Speaker 1: is we're going to have done all these episodes before
Speaker 1: we ever get there, so we'll just have to retell you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just so interesting. This story is fascinating
Speaker 1: because there was just this twenty two year old like whatever,
Speaker 1: trying to live his life and then now he's it's
Speaker 1: just gone. He's just had such a journey and death
Speaker 1: to becoming a revolutionary symbol that he never get really
Speaker 1: cared about fertility symbol that I mean, who knows actually
Speaker 1: like a player in life. We just don't know anything
Speaker 1: about what he was like. Yeah, he's been very obscured
Speaker 1: by this this, these myths that kind of sprung up
Speaker 1: around him. I do know that he by the time
Speaker 1: he was twenty two, he was a failed watchmaker and florist,
Speaker 1: which is like, I mean, I know, you know, nineteenth century,
Speaker 1: you started things a lot earlier back then, but jeez,
Speaker 1: by twenty two, I hadn't even begun to decide a
Speaker 1: career for myself. I had yet to fail and started
Speaker 1: anything to fail. This guy's failed two things already. That's true.
Speaker 1: So did that speak to desperation or ambition? Oh? Good question?
Speaker 1: Or do you think he was just like I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get paid. I don't care. I was watchmaker
Speaker 1: fucking sucked. I don't like gears, so I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I hate gears. How did I end up?
Speaker 1: I went to flowers they all died, so that I
Speaker 1: was like, what can anyone do I know write about politics?
Speaker 1: I can come up with some hot takes. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought we could pull into speculation station
Speaker 1: and decide for everyone what kind of man this was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had like one source say that he was known
Speaker 1: as a womanizer in life. Another source said there was
Speaker 1: nothing to indicate that he was any sort of stud
Speaker 1: in life. So those are very conflicting of information. Um.
Speaker 1: And then of course we have the trial saying that
Speaker 1: he was just this heavy that came into just intimidates
Speaker 1: Yeah for the writer, like maybe he wasn't even a
Speaker 1: writer at all. He was just there to be like
Speaker 1: hulking in the background, this guy like you better still
Speaker 1: in that statement, you know, so I don't know what
Speaker 1: do you think do you think he was? Do you
Speaker 1: think he punched Pierre in the face? Do you think
Speaker 1: that he was this womanizer? We're in speculation station right now.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say definitively that, first of all, seems
Speaker 1: it's dubious or again the Imperial government at court to
Speaker 1: decide that this guy was some bruiser who went around
Speaker 1: beating people up for no reason. So I'm saying in
Speaker 1: terms of the punch, absolutely not. He had no idea
Speaker 1: what was happening Pierre, Like Pierre said, oh, look a
Speaker 1: baguette and like them there and he turned around. Victor
Speaker 1: turned around and he said, I don't see a baggett.
Speaker 1: And we turned back around. Pierre punch sucker punched him
Speaker 1: right in the face and then shot him. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying happened. And then in terms of him
Speaker 1: being a lover boy, um, you know what, I like that. Uh,
Speaker 1: in the afterlife he's getting all this action at his
Speaker 1: grave site. So I think I think he was not
Speaker 1: a stud I think he was just like a quiet,
Speaker 1: shy little dude, wrong place, wrong time, and now he's
Speaker 1: just gifted with getting grinded on. For I like that story.
Speaker 1: It's harder to think about a guy who would go
Speaker 1: around and intimidate witnesses and stuff. There was just kind
Speaker 1: of just some asshole who punched a prince in the face,
Speaker 1: got shot at the street. Now getting all these hot
Speaker 1: French ladies, that's cool. Um, so I like that. Let's
Speaker 1: say definitively that Victor deserves this, this these tributes definitively
Speaker 1: speculatively speculative, that's our that's our answer. We're sticking to it,
Speaker 1: and the Noir estate is welcome to correct us. But bonapartes,
Speaker 1: we're not going to hear it, So you guys are
Speaker 1: too too shady, can't trust it. What's funny too is
Speaker 1: just this. I mean literally, these were guys just writing
Speaker 1: letters and they decided to save some really insane real
Speaker 1: world consequences. They're saying just some strong words. But on
Speaker 1: the other hand, strong words are strong words. They do hurt,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's a lot like the slap
Speaker 1: we're all talking about. Now. When is it okay to
Speaker 1: be vile into or whatever? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure everyone
Speaker 1: in the world is is well qualified to chime in. Definitely,
Speaker 1: definitely well qualified. Here's what I want to hear from
Speaker 1: and and this this is probably homework for our listeners
Speaker 1: out there. I want to know, of those folks who've
Speaker 1: been grinding up on this statue, what was the outcome?
Speaker 1: Did you all get married within the year? Did you
Speaker 1: have a crazy sex life from then on? Out? Do
Speaker 1: do you do? You walk into a bar and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I like to grind on statues and then you have
Speaker 1: like your pick. Everybody is like, well, whatever you want then,
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, if you know, girl walked
Speaker 1: up to me and she was like, I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: I'll just hump a statue. If it's in front of me,
Speaker 1: I'm going to at least follow up with a few questions.
Speaker 1: So he probably does improve your sex life to some degree? Right?
Speaker 1: Do people get pregnant from the statue? Has anybody had
Speaker 1: a little statue baby, a little bronze statue? Have they oxidized?
Speaker 1: Are they? Are they ver? Ver degree? Now? Look, these
Speaker 1: are the questions I need answers. Tis, if you've ever
Speaker 1: grinded up on Victor Noir, I want to know what
Speaker 1: happened afterwards? Does it work? I feel like probably so
Speaker 1: many people do it just to do it. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: do you think you have to have the intention also
Speaker 1: in your mind? I think I think it's I think
Speaker 1: with magic like that, you can mess around. It's if
Speaker 1: you do it, it's going to happen. It'll happen. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah. All right, Well, then we need to
Speaker 1: hear from you. If you've gone to paralyches and climbed
Speaker 1: up on this bulge. I want to know more. Yeah,
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