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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: It'll still live on a Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He's the great sea still.

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Speaker 3: Does not work at zoom in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: That is he here? There, he here? Oh yeah, baby,

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Speaker 4: here's the kid that's locked and loaded. Locked yeah, loaded great.

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Speaker 2: Where's little to join the zoom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, join the zoos? We can once you were there,

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Speaker 4: give you late, We're not. I was precise. I was

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Speaker 4: on the phone ready to roll on the com where

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Speaker 4: it currently napping. It has been Oh we are in

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Speaker 4: this is this is tough. It's been tough. The only

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Speaker 4: good part of today was I took him for a

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Speaker 4: drive for about two hours to run some errands and

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Speaker 4: that was like the only time that he's been and

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Speaker 4: he was fine. But this has been it's tough. He's

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Speaker 4: got the t t thing, he's got teething going on,

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Speaker 4: he's got the the stranger danger thing happening, which I

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Speaker 4: guess peaks It's funny. I don't remember any of the

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Speaker 4: stuff with with Ard and Bryce. I don remember any

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Speaker 4: of these things. And now they talked about the regressions

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Speaker 4: and the jumps, the leaps and this that, And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: how do they know so much more about babies than

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Speaker 4: they did fifteen years ago? But I guess they do.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're talking to babies.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, different right, like we have you know,

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Speaker 2: we I have three. They were raised, they were every

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Speaker 2: two years one. I mean, you do it all the same,

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Speaker 2: but kids are just different. I think what's probably the

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Speaker 2: crazy thing for you is like he has been and

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Speaker 2: I've you and I've talked about this before. He has

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Speaker 2: been a model infield like when you were when you

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Speaker 2: tell me like how long he sleeps and sleeps straight

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Speaker 2: through and yeah, all of that stuff. It's just impossible

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Speaker 2: that that's the case. And so this is probably the

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Speaker 2: first time where my guy ain't quite feeling it.

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Speaker 4: No, no, nobody's feeling it. Nobody's feeling it. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 4: They say it is a good sign though, that he's

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Speaker 4: still sleeping through the night, So that I guess is

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Speaker 4: that's good as I got my Look at this shirt.

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Speaker 4: How do you like that one?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. This is the car

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Speaker 2: driving the car. Thing is the secret weapon? Oh yes,

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Speaker 2: just pop them in pop, let's go on an adventure. Buddy,

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Speaker 2: eyes are big. Let's go see half the time they

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Speaker 2: fall asleep within the first fifteen minutes. Wins for everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna do a public service announcement too, for

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Speaker 4: all the people out there who wear gold jewelry, especially

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Speaker 4: the ladies that have intricate gold jewelry don't wear it

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Speaker 4: in hot tubs, so apparently is an enemy of gold.

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Speaker 4: And miss k has a beautiful diamond tennis bracelet that

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Speaker 4: she wore into a hot tub, and now the links

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Speaker 4: are just disintegrating. And yeah, like I think there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of chlorine at the time. It's obviously it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Uh So we got it prepared, they fixed it, and

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Speaker 4: then with literally within six hours, we're putting back on

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Speaker 4: it again. And the guys like listen. So I don't

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Speaker 4: even know if there's a feasible solution because we'd have

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Speaker 4: to literally get an entire new gold setting price of gold.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I don't know if you notice not

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Speaker 4: not very low these days, and then remove each individual

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen here, but that's

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Speaker 4: just a uh didn't know it before, never heard it,

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Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, yeah, was she was she and

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Speaker 4: chlorine or something? It looks like it has chlorine. Damn.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel like gold would say, gold would scoff.

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Speaker 2: At chlorine, So I mean it's an element.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't does not feel like it would.

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Speaker 2: It would do just fine.

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Speaker 4: Now it's like kryptonite to the son of Jamel.

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Speaker 2: I had I had not heard that. I feel like

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Speaker 4: It's probably also good it's a tennis prices, so that

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, that it's it's more.

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Speaker 4: Compromising like what you would work like like my I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was fine, fine, it's more like a rope, sure,

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Speaker 4: Well, we had taken it, taken it. I mean we

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Speaker 4: young Master Luca, I was like, all right, we're going

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Speaker 4: And they were just like, didn't have really great news

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Speaker 2: Not all great, so all that this was all today

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and those are they believe me. I believe now

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Speaker 4: those are the two most peaceful hours of the day

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's be right now, he's just checking it right now.

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Speaker 4: Feels this is really great.

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Speaker 2: Feels it's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. We have

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Speaker 2: a coaching staff, buddy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you don't have to worry about me

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Speaker 4: working from home like on the rag. No way, no thanks,

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Speaker 4: no thanks, Nope, that office is a sanctuary.

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Speaker 2: We officially have a coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: So wow, how about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, twenty nine member coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it's quite a bit bigger than than what

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Speaker 4: it's been in years past.

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Speaker 2: I believe. Well, yeah, you have a better handle on

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Speaker 2: that than I would. But but yeah, it is. It's

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Speaker 2: quite a bit bigger. I don't I don't think there

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Speaker 2: were any surprise. I think we've talked about almost all

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Speaker 2: let's see, I think we we've talked about that. Sweitzer

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Speaker 2: Brayer Yep, the Blasco.

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Speaker 4: Assistant line coach, Bobby Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Johnson assistant a lines but Jakian quarterback coach. Talked

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Speaker 2: about him, by the way, by Baker.

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Speaker 4: Bobby Johnson was the Commander's offensive line coach. Yes, and

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Speaker 4: he's now our assistant. So that's that feels like a

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Speaker 4: win when you can do that. Jacin Matt Baker, That's

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Speaker 2: So Matt Baker, assistant quarterback coach, joins the Browns assistant

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Speaker 2: an offensi assistant twenty four to twenty five. First NFL

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Speaker 2: coaching position came with the Falcons as a special team's

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Speaker 2: assistant in twenty three. Pribably to joining the Falcons, Baker

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Speaker 2: spent three seasons at John Carroll University from twenty to

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Speaker 2: twenty two as the quarterback coach before adding offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: title in twenty twenty two. John Carroll kind of the

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Speaker 4: It really is crazy. And that also knows that Matt

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Speaker 4: Baker is an Artie Smith guy.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Christian Jones as receivers. John Wosney act

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Speaker 2: as assistant receivers coach twenty five years coaching, experienced different

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Speaker 2: collegiate programs, most recently an offensive assistant is Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: So you and E will butt heads rivalry, that's.

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Speaker 4: Right, of course. I haven't heard anything about him nothing.

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Speaker 2: They play Kansas tonight. I think it will go quite

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Speaker 2: well for the Jayhawks.

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Speaker 4: Did Arizona hold on last night? That was too late

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Speaker 4: for me to see if they they did. They won

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Speaker 4: the bill. They went on like a ten oh run.

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Speaker 4: They were just dominant on the looton to Wilson Court, tarf.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: What a champion.

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Speaker 3: By the way, then we we should ask him about

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Speaker 3: his defensive assistant assistant. He has an assistant linebacker.

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Speaker 4: He's got.

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Speaker 2: An assistant to the travel trying to figure out the bio.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna get to that. I'm just finishing

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Speaker 2: out the offensive.

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Speaker 3: Side, don't when you get to that special.

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Speaker 2: Offensive quality control Sanders Davis uh offensive assistant, offensive line

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Speaker 2: offensive analyst, Travis Monkin, so welcome, joins the Browns is

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Speaker 2: offensive analysts after two seasons with Purdue working with the

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Speaker 2: offensive quality control. Prior to joining the Boilermakers, Monks as

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Speaker 2: student assistant with Oklahoma State from twenty to twenty three

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Speaker 2: working with tight ends in fullbacks. So Todd brings his kid.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So he would have been there with Wosniak, who was

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Speaker 4: the running backs coach at Oklahoma State during that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive assistant Don Borsoni on that side of things,

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Speaker 2: and then you get to the defensive side. Rutenberg. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about the great Tarv, the Great Bonda, all

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Speaker 2: of our parties, Jocks, caes Air, Brandon Lynch all back, yep,

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Speaker 2: and he knew that. And new court nude titles, yep.

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Speaker 4: New titles run game coordinator and linebackers for tar, pass

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Speaker 4: for Beat Lynch. Awesome, and this is cool as well.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Anderson, So, Jeff Anderson and Zach Dunn both got promotions.

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Speaker 4: So you have a defensive assistant nickelbacks coach Jeff Anderson

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Speaker 4: defensive asistant assistant linebackers coach Zach Done. They've both been

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Speaker 4: Jay's flag football quarterback. Who was who was erroneously besmirt

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Speaker 3: Shame shameful? Yes, like come on, come on, Murph, like

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Speaker 3: put in the quarterback accolades.

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Speaker 4: They should be in there. Yep, he was a.

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Speaker 2: Division one quarterback. Was Jeff Anderson besmirched or with Jeff Anderson?

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Speaker 2: Or did he be smirched doctor J.

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Speaker 4: Man I think we I think doctor J bodybagged him. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think doctor J Doctor J malwalked him.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, who mallwalk?

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Speaker 4: The guy put him on a leash, mall locked him,

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Speaker 4: which was crazy given Trazerson's resume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is defensive quality control. Paul Warrelow joins on

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Speaker 2: that who was the one where you wanted to be

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Speaker 2: to bring special attention to.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out the Zach Dunbaio all right.

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Speaker 2: Gun first joined the Browns in twenty twenty as a

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Speaker 2: defensive assistant adds assistant Linemacker's responsibilities beginning in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: During six seasons with the Browns, defensive end Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: was named to the Pro Bowl and All Pro Team

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Speaker 2: six seasons, was named the twenty twenty three NFL to

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Speaker 2: Plaintive Player of the Year or else at the single

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Speaker 2: season sack record. So that feel like you're done a

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Speaker 4: I feel like we gotta right there. I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: I think that feels like it's the boy it does.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting right there.

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Speaker 2: And then it goes back to in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: done aided with linebackers, where a second round pick, Carson

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Speaker 2: Swusher was named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. He must have been integral with Miles.

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Speaker 2: Is that the thing? Or cutting cutting paste? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what happened there, because it during

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Speaker 4: it says during six seasons with the Browns, Miles has

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Speaker 4: played more than six seasons with the Browns. Yeah, Jaxi's

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Speaker 4: air hasn't been here three seasons more than hasn't been

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Speaker 2: So we had talked about a great many of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So so those things jump out, And as I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: You, No at all, not one little bit of surprise.

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Speaker 2: Around the league, a lot going on today is the

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Speaker 2: So that's in forty five minutes around the league that

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Speaker 4: So the NFL has multiple tags that you can apply,

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Speaker 4: And I'm trying to pull it up right here, but

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Speaker 4: I know Bryce Hall got tagged. He was given the

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's not happening. No, so Jelias is interesting though. Oh,

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Speaker 4: The transition tag is The player who receives the transition

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is the risk that the Colts are

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Speaker 4: They transition tagged him.

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Speaker 2: They transition tagged him so he can negotiate with other

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Speaker 3: The other big thing is you can only if you're

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Speaker 4: Who they think they can get a deal done with. Now,

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Speaker 2: I was going to show tar that you're here. Tar

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Speaker 4: See on the zoom work they could see me, Tarv.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see it the great tar.

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Speaker 4: You're not paying Alt Pierce the average of the top

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Speaker 2: No, it's not producing.

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Speaker 4: So that's why he's not gotten tagged. Now I'm actually

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Speaker 3: He's coming off of he tore his achilles in week.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen, right, So the difference of what they're doing is

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Speaker 4: Like, what's craziest too, And while you look at that,

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Speaker 2: Right before this, the transition tag was rarely used on quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that very much. What's crazy about Danny Dimes

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Speaker 4: almost think it's kind of a It feels like a

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00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: pretty big number to me, if I'm being honest to

437
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: give Danny dimes. And again, he was very good at

438
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 4: the beginning of last year. But as you look, if

439
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 4: you go back to last season and you look at

440
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 4: kind of how things went for him, it started off

441
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 4: really really well, and then they lost four of his

442
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 4: last five starts.

443
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: That's funny. I don't remember that.

444
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: Or three of his last four full starts. So they

445
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: start off thyking go when when the first loss was

446
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 4: to the Rams twenty seven to twenty in a game

447
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: he threw two picks then, and to be fair, ad

448
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 4: Ni Mitchell, I'm pretty sure is ad Ni Mitchell caught

449
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: one down the left sideline and dropped it as he

450
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: went into the end zone and didn't get the touchdown.

451
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 4: Then they beat Vegas, then they beat Arizona, then they

452
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: beat the Chargers, then they beat Tennessee. So through eight

453
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: games he's seven to one. Then comes the Pittsburgh game

454
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: where he throws three picks and loses two fumbles, so

455
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: turns it over five times. They lose. They beat Atlanta

456
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: and ot but in that when he throws a pick

457
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: and loses the fumble. At the beginning of the year,

458
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: he had not lost a fumble to this point, and

459
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: he had thrown three picks total prior to that game.

460
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 4: Then he throws three there one in Atlanta, they lose

461
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: to Kansas City twenty three to twenty. Played a pretty

462
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: clean game there, and then they lose to Houston sixteen

463
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 4: to twenty and again played a fairly clean game in

464
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Speaker 4: that one as well.

465
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with I mean, I'm with you. I

466
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: don't know, and like he's coming off of that injury,

467
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: Like he's not going to be there at the start

468
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: of the year, so you're gonna have to do something

469
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: else at the beginning of the year. So you know,

470
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: it's another one of those teams. It's a big one

471
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: there is there really good everywhere else. I mean, they

472
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: got everything else on that roster's been good for a

473
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: long time.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Alec Pearson's the thing with the transition take. Yes,

475
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 4: he's a very good player, but like and maybe right

476
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: you could you could make the case right now he's

477
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 4: the best vertical threat in the NFL. You can make

478
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: the case. I don't know. The defensive coordinators will look

479
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 4: at it that that way, but at least you could

480
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Speaker 4: make the case. And still though I don't think you're

481
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: paying him, you know, top five receiver money in the NFL. Now,

482
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: I don't think you are.

483
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Speaker 2: No. A couple of the things around the league. No

484
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: take for the Bengals on Trey Hendrickson. So he is

485
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: an outright free agent. So he will walk and they

486
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: will get nothing in return for that. They could have

487
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: solved that last year and they wouldn't be in this spot.

488
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Speaker 4: My guess is they'll still get depending on what they

489
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: do in their free agent purchases. For example, if Trey

490
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: Anderson's gonna sign a mega deal somewhere. If they don't

491
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: sign a mega deal free agent, they'll still get a

492
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: third round compensatory pick for him.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's your get back on that. And maybe

494
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: they felt like they couldn't get more than that via

495
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: trade for him. I don't think that's really but they

496
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: obviously didn't feel that way. The Seattle Seahawks will not

497
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: franchise running back in Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker, so

498
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: no franchise tag for him. He will be an unrestricted

499
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: free agent as well, and coming off of that, very

500
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: good the Jets did franchise tag running back Bryce Hall.

501
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: Fourteen point two million is the number on that. And

502
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: then in the last half hour, really surprising out of Chicago,

503
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: the Bears Pro Bowl center Drew Dahlman has informed the

504
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: team that he's retiring from the NFL at age twenty seven.

505
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 2: Dolman left Stanford to know One after four seasons in Atlanta,

506
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: won in Chicago, made the sudden and surprising decision to

507
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: retire in twenty seven.

508
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Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, that's a big loss obviously for them. One

509
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: of the things they were able to do is really

510
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 4: fortify that offensive line, and he had been a very

511
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 4: good player for them, So that's that is a big surprise,

512
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: and that puts a big, big hole for them in

513
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: the middle of that offensive line and for Caleb Williams

514
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: Beck Kenth Walker real quick. One of the things we'd

515
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: heard the Combine and through some of our good friends

516
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: and colleagues, is that Houston was was thought to be

517
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Speaker 4: very much in the Kenneth Walker sweepstakes. I would say

518
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: the trade that they made to get David Montgomery would

519
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: probably neutralize that, as they would go with a Woody

520
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: Marks David Montgomery combo. Then, so I would right now

521
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: now you could. They could draft Jeremiah Love, but the

522
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: beat about free agency it comes before the draft. I

523
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: think that. I think Kenneth Walker's in play for Kansas City.

524
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dude, they could set themselves up. Did

525
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: they get him? And then they're sitting because they're picking

526
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Speaker 2: what nine.

527
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Speaker 4: Eight or nine? Yeah, I mean.

528
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Speaker 2: They're sitting there eight. I think it's nine. You're sitting

529
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: there at nine, and now all of a sudden you're

530
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: getting the number. You're gonna get a Blue Chipper, blue

531
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Chip And there's all talk that Tyreek Hill's going back

532
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: there like they could this. It was a rough year

533
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: for them. It's rare. Nobody wants them getting better quickly,

534
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: but the way they're set up, they could get very

535
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: very dangerous, very quickly.

536
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: Yep, agreed. Well, I mean they it's first year of their

537
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 4: season didn't end in the AFC Championship game of the

538
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: Super Bowl since Pat Mahomes been the starter, So I'm

539
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: not sure the ability to get back there pretty quickly. Yeah, yes,

540
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: they do.

541
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Speaker 2: We also and there will be more of this, will

542
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: keep you updated on this in the next half hours

543
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: as you have basically thirty four minutes from now to

544
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: get all of this stuff done. We now have nine

545
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: international games slated for this season. All home teams have

546
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: been determined. We are not one of the home teams.

547
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: The Falcons are the host team for this year's game

548
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: in Spain. So that was released today as well, that

549
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: the Falcons will be heading to Spain. So keV is

550
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: going to head to Madrid. Right, this is the Bernabeo

551
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: they're playing it it is. That's pretty cool, right, Yeah,

552
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: that's the one. I mean, that's the history of that

553
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: place is pretty ridiculous. So and the technology on the

554
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: renovation is defies with that. Two potential oversea offerings for

555
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: us in London versus Jacksonville or Paris versus the Saints.

556
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: A lot of rumors about it, A lot of rumors.

557
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: I would I would certainly like that to be the case.

558
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: So we'll see. That would be.

559
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question?

560
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: Please?

561
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: Do you think uh you've seen the Ratitui?

562
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: Right? I love that movie? Is that?

563
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a bold take on a Tuesday?

564
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Is that the best that's Disney? Right?

565
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: Pretty sure?

566
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Is it a Mount Rushmore Disney animated film. I'm not

567
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: saying best because there's too many greats. I mean, the

568
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Original Jungle Book is my all time favorite. Oh my god, dude,

569
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Blue the Bear, come on guy. The Old Robin Hoods

570
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: would be on my list too. Those are my two favorite.

571
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: The Old Robin Hood I will say, it takes a

572
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: while to get going, but then then it's a sprint.

573
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: It takes a little while to get going, but then

574
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: it's a sprint. So those two would both be on mine.

575
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Original Robinhood, Original Jungle Book.

576
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 4: I love cars and cars too. I think Cars two

577
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: is incredible.

578
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: Cars two is are they in Europe? Yep? With all

579
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: the spies and all that, Yeah, it's great.

580
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: Finn mcmissile, I mean, you got Michael Caine doing voice

581
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: work in a Disney cartoon movie.

582
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, A lot of people would go Lion King.

583
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: A lot of people might go Aladdin, toy story, toy story.

584
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: I think he's on it for me.

585
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: So I had I had Young Luca watch Ratituoy. It's incredible.

586
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: The premise of it is so outrageously far fetched, but

587
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: just well, of course it's a it's an absolute delight. Yeah,

588
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: rather to it is. It's like it's probably one of

589
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: just the best, like pure movie from a movie standpoint

590
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: watching it, you know what I mean, it's not either

591
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: it's not like. It also doesn't have and maybe I'm misremembering,

592
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: but it does. Frozen would be another one that's probably

593
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: on a lot of people's list. No, it doesn't have

594
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: just the like brutal sadness and devastation of tragedy that

595
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: some of the other ones have, at least I don't recall.

596
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 2: I had to explain that to the boys when they

597
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: were little and we would watch like The Fox and

598
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: the Hound. Oh that's all the great woo, but bamby,

599
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, like the.

600
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Speaker 8: Devastation is right out of the gate. You just get

601
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 8: hit over the head with devastation. Yeah, Like the newer

602
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: dizzy ones don't have that. They don't have this tremendous

603
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 8: heartache that you know that happens right away.

604
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: That's those other ones good.

605
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tangled, Like I guess the heartache is it a

606
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: young girl has eighteen years of her life robbed by

607
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: evil mother, gothel But it has a very happy ending

608
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: and nobody like is permanently perished like that's in Frozen,

609
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: Like they just go out out to see your parents

610
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: are going out on a boat it's like sad music's

611
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: big waves. Yeah. Sorry, they're never coming back, like okay,

612
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: all right, move fosa, I mean, are you kidding me?

613
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: Move fassa. That's that's that's a brutal one. Brother.

614
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lion King would probably make my rushmar too.

615
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: Lian King's great, but there's a lot of sadness in

616
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: Lion King too.

617
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some good ones.

618
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Speaker 2: We just uh ratitud he's on rats great. The boys

619
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Speaker 2: still love it. It's really is awesome. Did your boys

620
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: love cars you mentioned they did. Yeah, we were all

621
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: Lightning the Queen remember boots he was Lightning McQueen for

622
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: Halloween once he had the full outfit and all of that. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: they love that. And actually planes wasn't bad too.

624
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: Plans was very nice.

625
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: Planes, fire and rescue. That was that was fun too.

626
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Very similar to cars, yes, rather than it's kind of

627
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: like what they did with Top Gun and Days of Thunder.

628
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: Except that it was inverted planes the cars and cars

629
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: the planes.

630
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 2: They just did it opposite. All Yeah, so they liked

631
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: that as well. Uh that that was another one that

632
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: was good. But yeah, I think you mentioned France and

633
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: you mentioned Paris and I just did watch Ratituey like

634
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: two days ago.

635
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: It's so good. Really, you watched a couple I've watched it.

636
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: I did with in the last two weeks. We watched it.

637
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: It's great.

638
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. It might have been Sunday night.

639
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean it was Sunday night like it was on

640
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: and so we just we watched it again.

641
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: The rats up there, Yank and his hair. This guy

642
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: turns into the best chef in the world.

643
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: And the funny story we're in. We're in a suburb

644
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: of Chicago, northern suburb of Chicago, eating for lacrosse two

645
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: summers ago, and the uh the restaurant we were at

646
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: had Ratituy on the menu. So so NBC's like, I'm

647
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: getting it. I'm getting Ratituey.

648
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: Do it?

649
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Well, he goes, They make it look so good, unrotted dewey.

650
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: I go, well, you know, it's cut up veggies. It's

651
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: just a veg layered with Yeah. I mean it's it's

652
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: not necessarily as maybe as dramatic as you're thinking from

653
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: the from the movie Buddy. So it was not a

654
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: great experience for him. He ended up having to I

655
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: think he either ordered something else or tried eating my

656
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: wife's meal. I can't remember one or the other. I

657
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: can't remember, but I remember him ordering at the at

658
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: the restaurant.

659
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, the movie wasn't named that because that's the

660
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: best dish. It was because the word rats in it.

661
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: Well, of course, but you get the double entendre of

662
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: that's the that's what you make, and the guy because

663
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: it's his childhood food away.

664
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Speaker 4: You go yeah, yeah, yeah, the critic, you get both

665
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: the critic.

666
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what it is. Do you have you ever

667
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: had it?

668
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah. Isn't it like it's like a

669
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: tomato based kind of like soup.

670
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a layered it's layered thinly sliced

671
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: layers of it is zucchini, zucchini and zucchini, yellow summer squash,

672
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: egg plant, roma tomatoes, and tomato pure. So you take

673
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: the zucchini, the squash, the egg plant, and the roma

674
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: tomatoes and you slice them thin and then you just

675
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: layer them around and then it's a sauce onderneath.

676
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

677
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of the idea of it. That's

678
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: that's the way that it looks. So, yeah, it's a

679
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: very simple there. Yeah, I don't know that I've had

680
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: a whole I don't know that I've ever I definitely

681
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: have eaten at French restaurants, but I haven't eaten them

682
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: enough that I could say I've tried a bunch of

683
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: French cuisine that's specifically French. Okay, I just don't have that.

684
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: It's a hole in the resume. I just haven't eaten it.

685
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: A lot of I have not been to France, and

686
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: I have not needed a lot of French restaurants in

687
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: my life.

688
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: There are some good ones in the area here.

689
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Is I don't know one. I don't know them. I'm

690
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: not looking. I wasn't looking either, but I'm curious. I

691
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: don't I'm sure there are. I just haven't eaten it them.

692
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: Crew Crewe Uncorked is is a fine restaurant that is

693
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: fine dining, very very very good food. And then it

694
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 4: isn't the one down univers Circle like La Albatross.

695
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that I've heard of that one.

696
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: That one's amazing. My daughter says, that's the closest to

697
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: French cuisine.

698
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

699
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, see.

700
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: Franceosan Vermilion one of my.

701
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Speaker 2: Favorites, like Buddy's best Friend would have all the France

702
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: French information I need. She would Buddy Garrity's best friend

703
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: all that.

704
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, the handle all of it.

705
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there you go. All right, We're going to

706
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Speaker 2: continue our position reviews. We are in the Wide Receiver Room.

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Speaker 4: So, this is a room that we know is a

721
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: top priority for the Cleveland Browns, and as it should

722
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: be and it's a room that could be attacked in trade,

723
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: in free agency, in the draft, or maybe even not

724
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: probably all of the above, but two of the three.

725
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: I could see two people being brought into this room,

726
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: and it could be two rookies. It could be a

727
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: rookie and a veteran from a trade, could be a

728
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: rookie and a veteran that we sign in free agency.

729
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: And there are certain people out there that I'm interested

730
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 4: in that I believe are free agents. And we'll see,

731
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: you know, kind of how this all shakes out. But

732
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 4: we'll get into that as we start to go and

733
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 4: kind of our look ahead as we get towards free agency,

734
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: and maybe throw some names out there. Bandy, some names

735
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: about Jerry Judy obviously, coming off of a year where

736
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: he was a pro bowler, basically cuts his production in half,

737
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: almost literally, fifty catches six hundred and two yards that

738
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: he had this season. And when you go and you

739
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 4: look at what Jerry Judy had done the year before, that,

740
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: you say to yourself, man, that is quite a precipitous

741
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 4: decline from what we were expecting. What we had had

742
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: the year before was ninety catches twelve twenty nine and

743
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: four drops to fifty six oh two and two lowess

744
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: yards per catch of his entire career, lowest success rate

745
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: of his entire career. Second lowest catch rate of his

746
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 4: entire career, the lowest being his rookie season at forty

747
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: six percent. This year is forty seven. The last four

748
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 4: years prior were sixty eight sixty seven sixty two sixty

749
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 4: two yards per target, lowest of his career by a mile.

750
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: Five point seven, had never been below seven point six

751
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 4: the four years prior again eight point three, nine point seven,

752
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: eight point seven, eight point five. When you're in those

753
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: eight point five eight point seven nine range that he

754
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: was in for those four years, that's elite stuff. Jerry

755
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: Judy's going to get back there. The Browns are very

756
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: confident he's going to get back there. And you want

757
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: to get him to be you know, maybe you're one A.

758
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: If you can get a true one, or you can

759
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: have kind of co ones, that's fine, that'd be great.

760
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: But Jerry Judy, they're counting on him bigly to be

761
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: the guy for the Cleveland Browns at wide receiver, along

762
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: with whomever they bring in. And I believe that they're

763
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: going to bring in somebody that they think has the

764
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: ability to be, you know, a thousand yard receiver. Along

765
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 4: with him, along with Jerry Judy, the Browns are returning

766
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: Isaiah Bond. That's the guy of the other returners that

767
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm the most excited about. Isaiah Bond last year for

768
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: the Browns led the team in yards per catch at

769
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: eighteen point eight again eighteen point eight, led the in

770
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 4: yards per target at seven point seven. So he's got

771
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: to get more opportunity obviously, right, And you know there

772
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: are the catch rate, the success rate thirty one point

773
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 4: eight percent, the catch rate forty point nine those are

774
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: both the lowest on the team. So you think about

775
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: the fact that if we can get that kind of

776
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: stuff figured out. And now he also had a very

777
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: high percentage of uncatchable targets thrown to him. It wasn't

778
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: like that he was dropping a lot of balls. He's

779
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: got real speed, He's got the ability to get behind defenses.

780
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: Bottom line, he has the ability to get behind defenses.

781
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: And when you can get behind defenses, you have a

782
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: chance to do something very special. Right, that's where you

783
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: can become an elite receiver. So I really think that

784
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: when you look at him, This is a guy that

785
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: as a role player should be very good for the

786
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns this season. And in those eleven personnel sets,

787
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: you have a guy who has an opportunity to make

788
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: a lot of plays. Five catches on targets are more

789
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: than twenty yards in the or five of them five catches,

790
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: and those went for one hundred and ninety eight yards.

791
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: Five catches for one hundred and ninety eight yards. So

792
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: when you look at him being targeted down the field,

793
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: he was kind of incredible. We need more of that,

794
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 4: and we need somebody who can get him the football completely.

795
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: When you look at his receiving grades at Pro Football Focus,

796
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: he was a blue chipper on twenty yards in the

797
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: air and medium ten to nineteen, so anything over ten

798
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: yards in the air. He was one of the best

799
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: receivers in the NFL that they charted in terms of

800
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: getting in terms of his grade, so we're talking a

801
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: real vertical threat. In terms of his drops, he had

802
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: one drop all year. That's it, one drop all year,

803
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: and that came on a screen behind the line of scrimmage.

804
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: Didn't drop anything down the field, did not have a

805
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: ton of catchable targets, which is again not his fault,

806
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: but that's something that needs to be you know, that's

807
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 4: part that's on the quarterbacks, right. Give him opportunities to

808
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: make plays when you only have one drop in your

809
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: catch rate, is what it is that tells you that

810
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: the vast majority of passes Isaiah Bond saw last year

811
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: were uncatchable. Yeah, one drop again, one.

812
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Drop, he's he's won two. Like for fans, if you're

813
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: just watching on TV, you're saying, you're probably saying, I

814
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: don't understand what's special here because I just don't see

815
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: it enough. But if you watch all twenty two or

816
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: you go to the games, buddy, how many times a

817
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: game is he behind the defense.

818
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: Every at least once every single game at least it.

819
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Happens at least once a game at least yeah, oftentimes

820
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: multiple times.

821
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And that's, by the way, that's pretty good.

822
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: It doesn't some people never get behind the defense and

823
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: he's does it every single week.

824
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: There are certain players though, that like because the production

825
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: doesn't match what we're talking about here, Like if you

826
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: didn't watch all twenty two or if you didn't go

827
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: to every game, you're not noticing it for sure.

828
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: But I mean when the guy to me averages his

829
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: nineteen yards catch like that should pop? That should that

830
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 4: should get your attention for sure.

831
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that for the average fan who just

832
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: watches the majority games on TV, they they might not

833
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: understand what we're talking about or understand the hype about him.

834
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you it's all there.

835
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: It's one hundred. Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. You're right,

836
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: it is all there. And the hype, yeah, because unfortunately

837
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: we were not a consistently good passing attack. I mean,

838
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: that's just the reality of the situation. The guy that

839
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 4: you really would have wanted Isaiah Bond to play the

840
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: most with was when he wasn't really ready to play

841
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: was you know, obviously I had a lot of success

842
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: with Shador late because Contor throws good people. But he

843
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: never really played with Flacco at the point where no,

844
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: he was fully integrated and assimilated into the offense and

845
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: that he could be somebody that you were, you know,

846
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: really counting on. But as the season went on, when

847
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: he started to get some opportunities, you know, he made

848
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: some nice plays. He had the two catches for eighty

849
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: nine yards against the Bears. He had two for fifty

850
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 4: eight against the Raiders. Now, Isaiah Bond didn't really see

851
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, he had one game all year with more

852
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: than six targets on the whole season. That's it. That's it.

853
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: And really when Dylan Gabriel was in there, he was.

854
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: He struggled mightily when Dylan Gabriel was in there mightily.

855
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: But Shador is able to get him the ball down

856
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 4: the field. And you know, hopefully we can see more

857
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: of that this season. But I think that Isaiah Bond

858
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: has a chance in eleven personnel to be your third

859
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: receiver and be a difference maker. I don't think his

860
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: numbers are going to be massive, but kind of in

861
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: the way that I'll say when he was in New

862
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: Orleans more than when he got to when he got

863
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: to Seattle, the way Rashid Shaheed makes plays, made plays

864
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 4: down there where he was, you know, seven hundred yard receiver,

865
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: sixteen yards of catch, five touchdowns, just made some big

866
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 4: plays down the field. That's who I think we have

867
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: an opportunity to have with with Isaiah Bond. So those

868
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: two very good. Cedric Tillman last year down Yere again

869
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: just battling injuries, he shows you flashes where you feel like, man,

870
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: this guy really could be on the cusp. He just

871
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: has not been able to be consistent or to stay

872
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: healthy consistently in his career fourteen games as a rookie,

873
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 4: eleven games last year, thirteen games, eleven games I'm sorrying

874
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: twenty four to thirteen last year. Never reached thirty catches

875
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 4: in a season, has not reached three hundred and fifty

876
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: yards in a season. Size, speed, all of it's there again.

877
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: You see good things. It just has not manifested itself

878
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: all the way. Now is your fourth receiver. You feel

879
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: pretty good about him. Malachi Corley's a guy who I

880
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: think has an opportunity to stay here. I thought he

881
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: played pretty well, and in fact, one of our best

882
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: offensive plays once he got more involved was him running

883
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: the ball crazy parties. He caught eleven passes for seventy

884
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: nine yards. He ran thirteen times for one hundred and

885
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: twenty seven almost ten yards of carry as we got

886
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: him involved in jet sweeps and a rounds, you know,

887
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: just getting him the ball out in space, and he

888
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: was very productive with that. So I like Malachi Corley

889
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: as kind of like the gimmick guy that you've got.

890
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 4: He also had, you know, gauge Larvadan Jamari Thrash who

891
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: was certainly did not play well last year. Larviadann solid

892
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: punt return forty four yard or at one point, you know,

893
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: plays way onto the team as an undrafted but you

894
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 4: need an upgrade right here, like if you went into

895
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: it with you know, Judy and Carnell Tate or we're

896
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: seeing now you know drafts where we go at twenty

897
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: four and we take the kid from Indiana, Omar Cooper.

898
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a nice player, nice, you know, if.

899
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: It's Judy and Tate or Cooper or Boston or any

900
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: one of these guys, Isaiah Bond and you know at

901
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 4: the top, Tillman four Corley's kind of a you know,

902
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: the guy who's your gimmick guy is a five. You know. Okay,

903
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: all right, we're getting there. I still think i'd love

904
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: to me the trade for Marvin Harrison. That is absolutely

905
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: the way that I want to go. If that's a

906
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: real thing that's feasible, if we can do it, yeah,

907
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: if we can do it. Otherwise, you know, we got

908
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: to hit. We got to hit on this. Whoever we

909
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: take in the first round. Wide receiver it's got to

910
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: be a hit.

911
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you need. Whether it's Marv who's off

912
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: to a slow start to his NFL career, or Carneal

913
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: Tate at six, you need and those they just happen

914
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: to be Buckeyes. But O High State is a good

915
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: job of sitting out receivers. You know, that's worked the

916
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: most part. So to me, like when I look at that,

917
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: this is something you and I have talked about only

918
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: for two straight years, Like you need to have somebody

919
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: out there that is that teams are fearful of yep,

920
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: that what do we do with them? That we gotta

921
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: have to double this guy a little bit, like to

922
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: me that this is number one primary, number one priority.

923
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: It's number one. It's the it's the opportunity, and I

924
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: so and I think you have to be really aggressive

925
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: if it's at six, if it's I mean, heck, I

926
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind acquiring I was looking at the free agent

927
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: list of wide receivers. I wouldn't mind signing one and

928
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: drafting one at six. Like I think all of those

929
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: things make sense. Like you need a massive upgrade in

930
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 2: terms of, oh, we got to deal with the Browns.

931
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Here's the people we got to deal with right now.

932
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: We just don't have enough of it.

933
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw out a name and I'm I'm I

934
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: got my pen. Do you have like a list of

935
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: free agent wide receivers in front of you?

936
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: I have a top one oh one NFL list overall players.

937
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't have a wide receiver specific. Let means if

938
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: I can find one quickly here, Uh, spot track would

939
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: probably have one.

940
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: Let me get there, all right, I'm gonna give you

941
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: a guy that I would I would like to see

942
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: us sign sure, and it gives you kind of like

943
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: another bited the apple from just a vertical guy. And

944
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: that is Taekwon Thornton. I liked him with Kansas City

945
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: last year. Uh. He averaged twenty three yards of catch

946
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: last year. He's six'. Two he is a FORMER i

947
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 4: want to say second round pick of The. Patriots If

948
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 4: i'm not, mistaken let me pull this. Up he's a free. Agent,

949
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: yeah he was the second round pick of The patriots

950
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, two six' to two and he can

951
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: run and they he did nothing With the patriots last

952
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: Year with mahomes, nineteen catches four hundred and thirty, eight

953
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: yards three touchdowns twenty three point one. To catch. HE

954
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 4: won't i don't think he will, be EXPENSIVE but i

955
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: think he brings something to your team that all of,

956
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: A sudden let's say you go out there and certain

957
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: looks like let's call let's say in the draft we

958
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 4: get a tight end that we really like, mm hmm

959
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: and we want to go out there in a Twelve

960
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: person i'll look at one point where we Don't have

961
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: judy or we, don't know let's call it card del

962
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: tit out there and, people, say well what are? You

963
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: doing and all of a sudden You have bond on

964
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: one Side And taekwon thornton on, the other and the

965
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: ability to take the top off of, the, defense yep

966
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 4: would be would. BE vast i. Like him he is

967
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: not the. NUMBER one i don't think you're finding your

968
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: number one guy in. FREE agency i don't think. You're

969
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: not he to me is somebody that could play a

970
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: valuable role for this football team as a, space creator Much,

971
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: like bond but a little bit bigger at. Six' two

972
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: and then you saw him make and the, funny thing

973
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: was remember we were talking About how bad mahomes was at,

974
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: Times Last year taekwon thornton's another guy you put. On

975
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: the tape he could have had. Six, hundred yards yeah

976
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: there are a Few times where mahomes underthrew him when.

977
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 4: He was deep so HE'S somebody that I liked THAT

978
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: i feel i could be cheap and give you an

979
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: elite skill or an ELITE trait that I would be

980
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: i would be interested.

981
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: In just twenty five. Years of age according, to spot

982
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: track his anticipated salary this year. Two point eight, oh

983
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: my god.

984
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: In An Instant then kansas city might not let him.

985
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: Go, at that yeah they might not at that. At

986
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: that standpoint so in terms, Of market value spatrick does

987
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: a thing where they assign a market value. To A

988
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Player so juwan jennings is their number one free agent

989
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: in terms of market value at twenty. Two Point Six,

990
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: then Alec Pierce then wandale robinson, Seventeen, Point, Six Deebo,

991
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: tyreek rashid shaheed, Who You, Mentioned Mike, Evans Romeo, Dobbs Keenan,

992
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: Allen Markise, Brown Christian, Kirk Calvin, Austin Jalen, Naylor jalen

993
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 2: Tolbert Traylon Bertks Khalif, Raymond Kendrick Bourne Sterling shepard nick westbrook,

994
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: and so.

995
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: On and so what do They Have a? Romeo dubs

996
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: App they have dubbs'.

997
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: Is at twelve.

998
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: He's an interesting. ONE to me i actually like his.

999
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: GAME a lot i think that he would make he

1000
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: would make a. LOT of sense i think he's a

1001
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: starting receiver. In this league six, two hundred, pounds you

1002
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: know fifty nine for six seventy four forty six or

1003
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 4: six zho one fifty five. Seven twenty four where he's

1004
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: cut twenty one touchdowns, in four seasons averaged over six hundred,

1005
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: yards a season eight yards of target eight point three

1006
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: eight point five the. Last TWO years he's i think

1007
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 4: he's undervalued at that. AT that level i think he's

1008
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: somebody that if he was in a system where he

1009
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: got to play a higher percentage. Of the snaps it's

1010
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: just not the Way That that green. Bay did, It,

1011
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 4: you know yep they had so many different receivers that they.

1012
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: Would Rotate through now dubbs is thirteen, game seventeen games thirteen,

1013
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: game sixteen games so, RELATIVELY speaking healthy, i would say

1014
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: but they just they moved so. Many people around he

1015
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: Was actually the packers leading receiver last year when you

1016
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: factor into the, postseason as Well but even targets led

1017
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: The team and catches led the.

1018
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: Team in time i'm always bitter about Him, and sky,

1019
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: moore uh huh because those are Those were the guru

1020
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: came on and give me those TWO guys that i,

1021
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: Picked them.

1022
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: Both skyo sky moore.

1023
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: Was a zero he was enough.

1024
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: Less. Than.

1025
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: Zero yeah YEAH the YEAR i think, I did dubs i.

1026
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: Think he struggled maybe THE one year, i can't, REMEMBER

1027
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: but yeah i mean he certainly has all of the

1028
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: things that you would want uh in in that. In

1029
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: that situation so there are some names out there, to

1030
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: butchers it but probably if you're looking for, a true

1031
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: one it's gonna have to be drafted at six or

1032
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna have to be traded For, a great yes. That's.

1033
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: Right option yeah now we're talking about role players that,

1034
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 4: like to me the only people in our wide receiver

1035
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: room whose spots are guaranteed on this roster next year

1036
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: and in my world Are would Be Judy and isaiah, Bond, Strong,

1037
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: Likelihood tillman right but. Those that's, it that's.

1038
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: It, That's IT yeah and i.

1039
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 4: THINK it all i don't. THINK all Three. I don't

1040
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 4: tilman i want, to SAY yes but i don't think it's.

1041
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: Like a lock if all of a sudden You could

1042
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: Replace Tilm, WITH romeo dubbs i. Think, you, WOULD.

1043
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah YEAH i think i think this. This room's yeah so,

1044
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: it'll just now we'll see what happens, free agency trades

1045
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: all of that stuff the next. Couple of weeks as

1046
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: we stand, here right now that is something that. Is

1047
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,360
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1048
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1066
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1067
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: quite familiar With Offensive. Tackle titus howard what did you

1068
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: make of that move and what can you tell? Us,

1069
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,480
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1070
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: Well, FIRST of all i think in the last, Couple

1071
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: of years titus has played better had left guard, than

1072
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,400
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1073
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,719
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1074
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,600
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1075
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: the Team only Kicker kuyying me fairbarn's been here, longer

1076
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 5: Than him and titus never complained about any most last

1077
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 5: year he also had to, play RIGHT guard and i

1078
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: thought they did him an injustice by moving him around

1079
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: because of, Injuries and inethnus but he never, complained about

1080
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: it and he no matter. Where he was he, was

1081
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: always serviceable and some thought his best positions right tackle

1082
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: and some of us. Thought left guard in twenty twenty

1083
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 5: four he had to play left, guard A lot and

1084
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: i thought it was. His Best Season, but nick cassio,

1085
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 5: the general Manager and, coach tamiko ryans they've done a

1086
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 5: great job of, rebuilding this team Thanks, to the, browns

1087
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 5: of course and one of the problems is they can't put.

1088
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 5: Together offensive lineman they've been terrible at. Getting, Offensive linemen

1089
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 5: now titus was here before. They got here bill O'Brien

1090
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: was really excited about getting him. In twenty nineteen, that's

1091
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: the guy he told me off the. Record he wanted

1092
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 5: but they have done a terrible job. At The combine

1093
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: nick cassio talked about the criticism of, the offensive line,

1094
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 5: AND he said i thought. IT played better i must

1095
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 5: have been. Watching different tape but when, he got home

1096
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: he watched the tape and he thought the same. Thing

1097
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: we did so He trades it titus his right side

1098
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 5: of his. Lines free agent they could have. Three new

1099
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 5: starters should have. Three new starters. But it's amazing it's

1100
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: such A. Disservice, to cj stroud, no running game, to

1101
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 5: Speak Of because joe mason missed the season and They

1102
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 5: didn't help. Stroud at all now. Maybe they will we're

1103
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 5: guessing with three picks in the, first two rounds two

1104
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: of them will. Be, offensive lineman.

1105
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: John when you go back with a couple, Of connections

1106
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: here titus, obviously coming Over And, then george warhop who

1107
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: has been around the league for a very, very long

1108
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 4: time was there in. Twenty Twenty, two with titus he'd

1109
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 4: have to assume that he was a. Fan of his

1110
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: what do You remember about george warhaps one year There.

1111
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: WITH the texans i don't remember.

1112
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 5: Much about it he came in with. A good reputation

1113
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: they were so bad, at that time one of the

1114
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: worst teams. In the league it's like everybody was associated with.

1115
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 5: Their Total ineptness and warhop got fire after. That one

1116
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 5: season so really it was all guilt by. Association FOR

1117
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 5: everybody but i know before he came he had a,

1118
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 5: much BETTER reputation and i don't think one year on

1119
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: a bad team, Should hurt again and obviously it isn't because. He's.

1120
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: STILL working.

1121
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: John i was. Thinking about this we saw and, by

1122
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: the way for, just JOINING us and i don't know

1123
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: that we've. Mentioned This yet kyler murray is informed that

1124
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: he's going to be Cut By. The arizona cardinals once

1125
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: that can, happen as well and so that adds to.

1126
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: The QUARTERBACK conversation but i was thinking about this notion

1127
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: of you draft, a quarterback high but then you have

1128
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: to make sure that they have. A Support group the

1129
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: texans have hit. Twice on quarterback you cannot argue that

1130
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: They Hit. On deshaun watson he was incredible when he. Was,

1131
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: down there obviously injuries and other things have factored, into

1132
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: what happened since there was NO. Question that cj Stroud

1133
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: crushed it john in. His rookie season and then we've

1134
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: seen from the outside it looking in a little. Bit

1135
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: of regression as you've watched both of those two up,

1136
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: close and personal what did you learn about what it

1137
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: takes to bring a quarterback along the right way and

1138
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: what are some things that other teams should maybe apply

1139
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: and learn from. Those, two processes well.

1140
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 5: First of all stroud's regression that people talk about, around

1141
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 5: THE league and i doubt those people have watched hardly

1142
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 5: any Games. Of the texans, two years ago, his second

1143
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 5: year he lost his Best Receiver and ego collins, for

1144
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: Five Games, lost tank dell his second best receiver for,

1145
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: half the Season And in stefan diggs was doing really

1146
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 5: well and he went down for the, last nine games

1147
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 5: and he lost His Tight, end dalton sultz who had.

1148
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: To play hurt and then people wondered why he wasn't. The,

1149
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 5: same quarterback well his offensive. Line was incompetent they used

1150
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 5: nine different starters because of injuries. And in efness this

1151
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 5: year they used eleven because of injuries. And in efness

1152
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 5: and yet everybody Wants. To blame stroup plus He Didn't.

1153
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 5: Have Joe mixon joe mixon had a terrific year in

1154
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 5: his one healthy season in. Twenty Twenty four and i'm

1155
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 5: right now working on a series of tweets and getting

1156
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 5: ready for my talk Shows here Comparing Mixon with David

1157
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: Montgomery and Dimigo Rans and nick serio's love of, older

1158
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 5: RUNNING backs which, i can't figure but that's. What they

1159
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: do and so, the key is and THIS is what

1160
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 5: i do a Weekly Show, in LAS vegas and, i

1161
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: tell them, if your draft You're Gonna, draft fernando mendoza

1162
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: and if they don't work on the offense, in the draft.

1163
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: And free. Agency it's criminal you can fill in, on

1164
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: the defense but you got to work. On the offense

1165
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: you Do what. The bears did they did a great

1166
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: job last year and actually began to hear before with

1167
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 5: what They Put, around caleb williams and they knew they

1168
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: were gonna get, that first PICK and so i thought

1169
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 5: they were the standard bearer for. What you, do and

1170
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: yes of course you want to work, on your defense

1171
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: but BOY in this i do a Weekly show In,

1172
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 5: tennessee IN nashville and i tell them. The Same Thing

1173
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 5: if robert salah comes in there and it has A

1174
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 5: chance that jeremiah loved and goes for, a pass, rusher

1175
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 5: that's fine but you got to remember if you don't,

1176
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: help the quarterback if you Don't help cam ward is the,

1177
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 5: first overall pick you just. Spinning your. Wheels take love i've.

1178
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: Seen Two Turnarounds here earl campbell nineteen seventy, Eight to

1179
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 5: illustrade i've got, the first Pick Got the heisman Trophy,

1180
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 5: winner from texas and he took him to the playoffs

1181
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 5: three years OR Own two. Abcy Championships games arion Foster

1182
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 5: Here when arion foster was inserted as. The starting back

1183
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: he Became the. Best enfranchise History They beat peyton manning

1184
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: and ending for the first time to, beat him again

1185
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 5: and he made. All the difference so you've got to

1186
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 5: put the, weapons around him and they better start building

1187
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: now because everybody's talking about next year's. Draft being great

1188
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 5: there's time last year all these draft experst Were talking

1189
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 5: About dusmeyer And Aler and leonora sellers to be the,

1190
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: first overall pick and they were going crazy. Over those

1191
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 5: guys now they don't. Point that out. It's terrible day

1192
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 5: These people Are. GOD woman doza i wouldn't put. Him

1193
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 5: up there and when they list Several quarterbacks, and i'm

1194
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 5: like you're talking, about, the quarterback now what was Your

1195
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: Evaluation of josh allen back when everybody said he would

1196
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 5: never be accurate that he went to a junior college

1197
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: before He. Went to wyoming people didn't predict he was

1198
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 5: going to. Be a superstar but you don't, see that

1199
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: either which is one OF the reasons i Go back

1200
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 5: in rego's pep up with what the evaluations, were back

1201
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 5: then And, with the browns. They got, it you know

1202
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: if you Don't get OFFENSIVE lineman And i think titus

1203
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: will start from day one he'll play there several years

1204
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: and he, won't be great but. He'll be good and,

1205
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 5: he's great teammate good in, the locker room, media likes him,

1206
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 5: he's always available and he will hopefully help them develop

1207
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 5: any other young guys they. Bring, in there yeah.

1208
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: We need him. To do that and we're all about

1209
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: you're talking, About the offense we're. ALL about that i

1210
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 4: love what you're talking. About that there nobody, keeps receipts

1211
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: anymore of course a man, of your stature and. You certainly,

1212
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: do but yeah. That's, every year oh next year is going.

1213
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: To be great everything's so loaded next year when you

1214
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: look at kind of your the Division that the texans are,

1215
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 4: in right now and you look, at the, fact You

1216
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 4: know the texans defense was so so, good last year,

1217
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: and you're right you got to get them weapons that

1218
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: you score the football and you're going to be. Just

1219
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: fine there, but you know what do you Make of

1220
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: the colts Move Today? With danny dimes and then what's

1221
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: kind of your take on where things Are.

1222
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 5: Down in jacksonville, first of all let me say one

1223
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 5: more Thing about the browns have the best defensive PLAYER.

1224
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 5: In the nfl what's it done for him one of

1225
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 5: the all time. Great pass rushers what's it? Done for

1226
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 5: him it's. Done for him and but that's why you've got.

1227
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 5: To get offense you have to. Get the quarterback they

1228
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 5: thought they had The. QUARTERBACK in watson i don't feel Sorry.

1229
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: FOR the browns i certainly don't Feel Sorry for Deshaun

1230
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 5: watson because i'm still mad at him because of what

1231
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 5: he did that got him traded when in twenty twenty

1232
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 5: he was fantastic in every way and he hadn't been

1233
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: anything close to that since that. Twenty twenty season as

1234
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 5: far as there was a lot of speculation yesterday in

1235
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: the national media about using, that transition tag he's not worth.

1236
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 5: The franchise, tag he's injured coming. Off an injury he

1237
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 5: should get be back to where he was before when

1238
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 5: he was. Eight and two people are talking about HIM.

1239
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: As the mvp so you get the top ten instead of.

1240
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: The top five and that's about. What he's worth and

1241
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 5: if he, earns that money the coach will turn around

1242
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: and do what's right and they will turn around and

1243
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: give him, a new deal Just like the Bucks Did. For. Baker, mayfield.

1244
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 2: True yeah that's the thing that's, Happened, isn't it? JOHN

1245
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: is it i mean that was something we heard at,

1246
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: the combine consistently like everyone wants To, pull a donald

1247
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: everybody wants To. Pull a mayfield in both, of those

1248
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: instances they went to quarterback finishing school With Going, to

1249
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: san Francisco going to minnesota in The, case of Donald

1250
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: Going to los angeles in The, case of bake and

1251
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: kind of figured out how to be pro quarterbacks. A

1252
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: LITTLE bit and i think that was something that a

1253
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: lot of teams, are chasing after is these quarterbacks. On

1254
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: SECOND chances and I Think with kyler murray being cut

1255
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: and he's from your neck, of the woods certainly when you,

1256
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: think about that how would you assign a value or

1257
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: A Worth? To, kyler murray.

1258
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: Well, first of all he would not have been the

1259
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: first overall pick if It Wasn't for cliff. Kingsbury wanted

1260
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 5: them It Convinced owner michael Bidwilliams Zero manager steve kind

1261
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 5: to take him first overall because he was his. Kind

1262
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 5: of quarterback and so that Doesn't Mean he's todd monkins.

1263
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 5: Kind of quarterback he's, a great runner but he's so

1264
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 5: Much Smaller. Than lamar jackson and what Worries Me about

1265
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 5: kyler murray is the stories you've heard about his work

1266
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 5: ethic and. That's not good and The Fact That marty

1267
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 5: AUSTIN fort the gm said he'd been in, contact with

1268
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 5: him and, then media, said quoting sources they have not

1269
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 5: been in contact. With each other and so if you're

1270
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 5: going To, commit to murray you better do it on a. One,

1271
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: year Deal now If i'm THE browns, AND i know

1272
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 5: i know the players wouldn't want, TO hear this i Would.

1273
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 5: Stick with Shadur i'd play dylan, because next year if

1274
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 5: you're in that top, five or six if this next

1275
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 5: draft goes the way everybody, thinks It Will with Arts manning,

1276
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 5: And Julian saying dante more and, all those guys then

1277
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 5: you got a chance to get a. True Franchise quarterback If,

1278
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 5: I'M the browns i Stay away FROM murray and i

1279
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 5: GO with what i got and if it, doesn't work

1280
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 5: out you'll be in a better. Position next year in

1281
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: about the time that, new stadium opens then that quarterback

1282
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 5: will have had two or three years to get USED

1283
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: to the nfl and maybe happy days will.

1284
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 4: Be here again on, the, last part, yeah, we would

1285
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: certainly we certainly. Would like them do you think this

1286
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 4: is going to be a busy trade PERIOD for the

1287
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 4: nfl once this new, league year opens as we've already seen. Some,

1288
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: Deals happen obviously texan's involved in two. Of them already

1289
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: are you expecting more? DEALS to.

1290
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 5: Happen I am nick serio always. Likes the trade if

1291
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 5: they locked him, in a closet he would kill himself

1292
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 5: if he couldn't. Make any trades he can't sit. On

1293
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 5: his hands he's got ants, in his pants so he's

1294
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 5: going to. Be making more it might be draft when

1295
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 5: he trades out of, the FIRST round but, i think

1296
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 5: so because, like last year there was all This speculation

1297
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 5: the bengals were Going To cut joe mixon even though

1298
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 5: he was COMING off of i think a. Twelve touchdown

1299
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 5: season they thought he'd run. Out of gas so instead

1300
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 5: of having a bid for him as, A Free agent,

1301
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: nick casario says we'll. Give, you seven, so, Oh yeah seven.

1302
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 5: We'll take it and mixing turned out to be a

1303
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 5: really good move for, twenty TWENTY four and i think

1304
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 5: teams are more likely to do that to get veteran

1305
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 5: players who might, be one. YEAR two year. I like

1306
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 5: that i like to see a, lot of movement but,

1307
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 5: of course nothing nothing. Supplants the draft but there's going

1308
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 5: to be a slew of free agent signings Next Week

1309
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: and Adam, Sheftern The rappaport tom telsero and those guys

1310
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 5: agents that could be, sending them stuff and it's who

1311
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 5: can cut and. Paste the quickest.

1312
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: What do you make of in terms of the trade.

1313
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: THAT just happened i know you alluded to It With

1314
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: the nick area bringing an older Running Backs, to david

1315
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 4: montgomery but the idea of a one two punch With He.

1316
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: AND woody marks i.

1317
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 5: Was hoping that they would get a they have a

1318
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 5: twenty eighth pick in. THE first round i was hoping

1319
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: they get a tackle and then with the pick they

1320
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 5: one of the picks They got from washington For. LANMING

1321
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 5: tonsil forth i think it's fourth in. THE second round

1322
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 5: i Was Hoping. FOR darius price i WAS hoping what

1323
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 5: i looked at him and his six, yards of carrying

1324
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 5: being a backup and dividing Time With, jar my love

1325
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 5: who might be the best player. In THE draft and

1326
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 5: i was hoping they'd get a young. Guy like that

1327
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 5: but if They could get montgomery To do what mixon

1328
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 5: did in. Twenty twenty four they would certainly be. Happy

1329
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 5: with it mixon, was twenty eight was gonna, Turn twenty nine,

1330
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 5: montgomery's twenty eight gonna, turn twenty nine and both of

1331
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 5: them score a lot. Of touch downs in the. Last

1332
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 5: three years montgomery has rushed for. Thirty, Three touchdowns yep

1333
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 5: detexans have rushed. For thirty four show you how incompetent

1334
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 5: they're blocking has been when it gets to. The go

1335
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 5: line And That's what joe mixon havn eleven rushing touchdowns in,

1336
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four and. So they're open maybe they finally.

1337
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 5: Get that right montgomery can be, the MISSING link but

1338
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 5: i still would like one of those Young. Guys like price, you're.

1339
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 2: The best buddy thank you so much for your time

1340
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: and giving us a little bit. Of it today, greatly appreciate.

1341
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 5: You, My pleasure guys thank. You very much.

1342
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,480
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1346
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: is going. TO be cut a Statement from him we

1347
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,480
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Speaker 2: lots of news, Around The league daniel jones Transition, Tagged

1357
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: In indye trey hendrickson will be, a free agent not

1358
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: tag for Him. Down in cincinnati but the headline here

1359
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: in the last twenty minutes or so is the outright

1360
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 2: release which is coming for a former number one overall

1361
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: pick and the man with which one of the great

1362
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: combine stories he is. The CENTER of as i find

1363
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: ourselves to get on the exact same step As him At,

1364
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: HARRY and is i believe is what it was we

1365
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: got that. Exact Same step kyler murray is going to

1366
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: be outrightly Released By. The arizona cardinals if they cannot,

1367
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: MAKE a deal i guess, is they won't and so.

1368
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: They'll release him they'll eat a. Bunch of money This

1369
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: Is The russell, wilson denver situation.

1370
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 4: Is it. NOT it's similar i don't think it's. Quite

1371
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: as prohibitive they'll probably designate Him a post, june first

1372
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 4: cut as they're able to do, two of those and

1373
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 4: then spread out his his dead money. Over two years

1374
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 4: and but what it really Means Is that kyler murray

1375
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 4: is Going to be so if He's cut, post june

1376
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: first they will have dead money of in forty seven million,

1377
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 4: dollars this year seven, million next year and they will

1378
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 4: save five million against the, cap this year thirty four,

1379
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 4: million next year, forty six million and twenty twenty eight is,

1380
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 4: what it says is according to. Overthecap dot com whereas

1381
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 4: if he Was cut, pre june first would be fifty

1382
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: four million, dead this year seven million, dead next year

1383
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 4: and lose two million on the. Cap THIS year so

1384
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: i think He'll be post, june first designation and then

1385
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 4: he's pretty much he's going to make still fifty two

1386
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 4: million dollars or he's going to make forty seven Million.

1387
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 4: From from arizona he's not going to get that five

1388
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 4: million dollar bonus that HE was due i think on

1389
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: one of the days in the league year or. Something

1390
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 4: like that and so he is going to be. Able to,

1391
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 4: play you know money's not going to be the biggest

1392
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 4: factor for him in. Where he plays and so he's

1393
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 4: going to have the opportunity to go and sign REALLY

1394
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 4: where as i provided that they're interested, in multiple teams

1395
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 4: he will we get to pick the team he wants.

1396
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 4: To play for it will not. Be, about, Money.

1397
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: No, no and uh this is IN the last. I

1398
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: don't know this is about twenty. Five Minutes ago JONATHAN

1399
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: jones ON. Nfl on cbs near the top of The

1400
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: list of kyler's Options At the minnesota vikings considering, their

1401
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: cap situation a capable veteran at the veteran minimum one

1402
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: point three salary would Be. HUGE for Minnesota i think

1403
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: minnesota is at the top. Of, everyone's list now the division.

1404
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 2: Is really, difficult it's brutal but you've got, two elite

1405
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: weapons maybe the best receiver in. All of football you've

1406
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: got a great offensive mind as. A head coach you

1407
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: paratroop into that thing and if the, quarterback plays good

1408
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: you can be pretty. Elite.

1409
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: PRETTY quick absolutely i mean we saw it with what

1410
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 4: they win fourteen games, a year, before so yeah of course.

1411
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 4: They certainly can they can get they can. Be RIGHT there.

1412
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 4: SO i am i think that'd be a great. PLACE

1413
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: for him I, THINK that, Arizona i, Mean i'm sorry

1414
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: atlanta would be a great. Place for him Where You've, Got,

1415
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: Drake London, Bijan kyle pitts you've got weapons as you

1416
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 4: talked About there in minnesota ready. Made for, YOU so

1417
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 4: yeah i think those either of those would be excellent

1418
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 4: landing Spots For. For kyler, murray to me it's always

1419
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 4: the idea of GOING To. The NFC south if i,

1420
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 4: want to WIN that's where i. WANT to go i

1421
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 4: just feel like that's the easiest. Place, to, win, yes yeah.

1422
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: YEAH for sure i mean. THAT'S THE spot, i i Mean,

1423
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: we know kevin how do? You think that do you

1424
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: think he would be what? HE'S looking for.

1425
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think so in terms of, just you

1426
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 4: know the tradition of the rigidity at times of what

1427
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: he wants his. Quarterback TO do but i Do Think

1428
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 4: with tommy reese there that, they could, say you, know

1429
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 4: all right let's just open it up and just let.

1430
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 4: Our PLAYERS play and i think they could be a

1431
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: pretty darn Good Offense. WITH kyler murray. I, REALLY do.

1432
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah i think. SO as well i think that from

1433
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 2: A from, a murray's perspective you Would, LOOK at atlanta

1434
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: i would be thinking. Domes AND weapons So I think

1435
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: atlanta minnesota race to the top. OF that list i

1436
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: have seen a lot Of stuff about pittsburgh with. HIM

1437
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: as well I just don't i don't see that, that, doesn't, no,

1438
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: NO no no.

1439
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: I don't OUTDOORS that's why I like the south. For,

1440
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: him too yeah good War.

1441
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: In the south, play with weapons, dome and. Yeah, absolutely

1442
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 2: So yeah and miami is AN interesting one i. Suppose

1443
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: as well there's always an Allure obviously with miami, for

1444
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: professional athletes but they Do. Not have tygreek They Still,

1445
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: have jaylen waddle but new. Staff down there It feels

1446
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: like kafley's going To Go. After malik willis he would

1447
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: know him. Better, than anybody yeah but that's another place

1448
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: that maybe you could see this. KIND of go i

1449
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: Do think that kyler is in terms of, plug and

1450
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: play has done it at a very high level when

1451
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: healthy he's the one. That's THE top like i don't

1452
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: THERE'S no scenario i would Compare Him. To malik Willis

1453
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 2: Not say malik willis can't end, Up Being good But

1454
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: i've seen kyler. Be really good he's a two time

1455
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: pro bowler in, a legitimate way not necessarily like hey

1456
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: we need a guy. Come on in that's not. Necessarily

1457
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: the case so. He's done it he's on at. A high,

1458
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: level when healthy he can be a bit. Of A

1459
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: problem and i do think now that, this officially done

1460
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: he's going to be a true free agent and ready.

1461
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,480
Speaker 2: TO be acquired i do wonder if He's. The, FIRST domino.

1462
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah i think He He. Is geno smith if you,

1463
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 4: Watch The shows gino smith is being talked about, What.

1464
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: Thirty five like That would be, pittsburgh to me Would.

1465
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 6: BE that.

1466
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 4: Minnesota I Went. To.

1467
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: West virginia yep like, he's thirty five he's got. A

1468
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 2: big arm i mean that sounds like a McCarthy. Quarterback

1469
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,959
Speaker 2: to ME so if i mean That seems like, PITTSBURGH

1470
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: to me.

1471
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 4: I Just, DON'T if, ROGERS i mean I feel like

1472
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 4: rogers is going.

1473
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 2: To be there you think he's going To, Be ANYWHERE.

1474
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 4: Okay so i was watching again Obviously With, young master

1475
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 4: Luca We Watched. Good MORNING football so i see a.

1476
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: Lot of stuff they they're operating under, the, Assumption That

1477
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 4: yes aaron rodgers is going To. BE a steeler i

1478
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: mean it kind of everything talked about is that he

1479
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: is going To be, a steeler maybe And That with

1480
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 4: gino smith would make a lot. Of, sense there basically

1481
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 4: what they Keep Saying about geno smith is that when

1482
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: you looked at His play in seattle and then you

1483
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 4: look at what he did last year And, with the

1484
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 4: raiders that he's still, very good quarterback and that he

1485
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 4: was held Back by, the raiders' scheme the talent or

1486
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 4: lack of. Talent around IT and again i was very

1487
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Speaker 4: IMPRESSED by am i you go back and play the

1488
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Speaker 4: audio of, the game there multime. IS the, Game i

1489
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 4: said i'll. TELL you something i know that they're, not

1490
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 4: Doing anything but i'm really impressed, With, you know. SMITH

1491
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 4: the toughness i remember the rose he made AND he

1492
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 4: was i think we sacked them ten. Times, THAT game.

1493
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah i felt.

1494
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: Bad. For him yeah, SO you know i Don't watch,

1495
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,360
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1496
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: i just know, unfortunately for him the team, that he

1497
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: left team that he quarterback for, two years Ago Won

1498
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,200
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1499
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,840
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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,240
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1501
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1538
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Speaker 6: YEAH we, graduated.

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Speaker 7: I mean this is more like you're in A Loser

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Speaker 6: Yes, by the. Way, crushed it oh the.

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Speaker 4: GOLD down phenomenon.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it that WAS not where i was. Trying

1547
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Speaker 7: to go but you're but and you're a gentleman to the.

1548
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Speaker 6: Surprise, of? Zero people whatsoever.

1549
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1550
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Speaker 4: right combine you? Love the combine who doesn't? Love the

1551
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,200
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1552
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 6: IT other people i love being. AROUND the action i

1553
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 6: love the fact that you've got, every team represented not

1554
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 6: necessarily in. The same, form you know we've heard and

1555
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 6: seen teams not bring their gms or. Head coaches anymore

1556
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 6: they're opinion as they're better suited to kind of, keep

1557
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 6: hammering away either on the draft. Or other stuff.

1558
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 7: The, less, needification yes yes, AND.

1559
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 6: You know i Don't think the rams have suffered much having, lesser,

1560
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 6: Sean here right so a lot of different ways to go.

1561
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 6: About YOUR business but i still love the energy. Of

1562
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 6: this week it's a big step. In the process for

1563
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 6: those of us that live the. Draft year round this

1564
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 6: is not the beginning of, the draft process but a

1565
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 6: lot of people are busy during the regular season and

1566
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 6: the playoffs and so they're kind of getting introduced. Into

1567
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 6: THESE prospects but i tell it's a, gigantic jigsaw puzzle

1568
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 6: and this gets is a little bit. Closer to completion

1569
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 6: not that everything is, decided this week but this is

1570
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 6: a good week to put some pieces of context into

1571
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 6: the database that helped you make more informed decisions as

1572
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 6: you're ranking and evaluating and projecting these players OVER the

1573
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 6: next i guess it's a little under.

1574
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 9: Eight, weeks now yeah there are inevitably every year it

1575
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 9: might be tonight liebackers. And d lineman inevitably every year

1576
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 9: there's a guy that tests out of the gym or. Steals,

1577
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 9: the combine yeah when we actually get to the drills,

1578
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 9: where you, GO all RIGHT i guess i got to

1579
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 9: go back and look. At his tape didn't see. That

1580
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 9: one coming any idea who that's.

1581
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 6: Going TO be so i want to preface this by

1582
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 6: SAYING that if i name a name that ends up,

1583
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 6: not working out that is one of the themes of

1584
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 6: This year that i've noticed is that we are seeing

1585
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 6: a lot of guys just not take part in this week. As,

1586
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 6: much playoff, YEAH you know i think it's a couple

1587
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 6: of DIFFERENT factors there i do think that the nil

1588
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 6: era has probably led to players understandably feeling like they

1589
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 6: have more control the sort of their path through, the,

1590
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 6: college process right and it's. Totally THEIR prerogative and i

1591
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 6: think there are guys who are coming in with the

1592
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 6: mindset that there's only things for me to lose as

1593
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 6: opposed to things to. Gain this week and when you

1594
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 6: have people you have a circle that is, telling you

1595
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 6: that like there's only a lot to lose and not,

1596
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 6: much TO gain then i understand while your mindset Is

1597
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 6: If you're ruben bain and they, say, to you hey

1598
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 6: you're probably a top ten to twelve, pick right now

1599
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 6: but if, you WORK out and I don't think rubin

1600
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 6: would have off the, chart testing numbers and that could

1601
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 6: be the difference between you going? Ten versus eighteen is?

1602
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 6: It worth? It you know, Like that's right and that's,

1603
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 6: just one example and maybe he would challenge and say

1604
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 6: that he actually would have. Elite testing numbers my eyes

1605
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 6: don't tell me that he is going to be in

1606
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 6: the same category of athlete as some of the other

1607
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 6: guys that. Will go HIGH so if i that was

1608
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 6: a much longer win THEY preface than. I probably intended

1609
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 6: but there are guys sort of towards the back end

1610
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 6: of the FIRST round that i think have a lot to.

1611
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 6: Gain this week Cassius HAL from TEXAS a and m

1612
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: is a good example of the guy who he should

1613
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 6: be a total rock star in. The testing process biggest

1614
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 6: consideration for him Is, he's got yeah shorter. Arms he's,

1615
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 6: GOT you know i always feel weird talking about these

1616
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 6: guys have SHORT arms and i probably have like twenty.

1617
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 6: Eight inch arms, but you know he's under probably under,

1618
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 6: thirty two inches which is by, some teams estimation is

1619
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 6: kind of like.

1620
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: A minimum threshold got the measurement?

1621
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: For you?

1622
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 7: Here Keep Talking?

1623
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 6: Are mason? Thomas has, He, oh good yeah. That's what,

1624
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 6: happens you know have your phone on you or? Not.

1625
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 6: As readily yeah.

1626
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 7: So it's a thirty and a quarter thirty in. A,

1627
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 7: quarter quarter okay so there were some talking about him

1628
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 7: being like thirty one and a half.

1629
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 4: During the thirty.

1630
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 7: It's not good it would be and it would, be historically.

1631
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 6: Short thirty and a half thirty in. A quarter arms you,

1632
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 6: said for him Do we get?

1633
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 4: Bane, or no Yeah we.

1634
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 7: Got bain too both are not both, ARE.

1635
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 6: Not encouraged i promise to the audience that was Not

1636
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 6: Good on BAIN baine was i believe that like thirty

1637
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 6: and six eighths during the season thirty and seventy Eighth,

1638
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 6: Seven eighth, okay so yeah so that that measurement is.

1639
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: So they do they do take. Measurements of players it's

1640
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 6: a helpful tool during the season or, before the season and.

1641
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 6: Scouts have them there were some that Were saying the

1642
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 6: bane was mismeasured and he was going to be closer.

1643
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 6: To thirty two we have fifty plus years, of the

1644
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 6: draft not saying that what happened in the past specifically.

1645
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 6: Dictates the future but when you have a lot of

1646
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 6: players to choose from and you're looking, for tie breakers

1647
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 6: sometimes you rely in this and if there's not a

1648
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 6: long list of guys with thirty and seven, eighths inch

1649
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 6: arms and you've got two pass rushers, pretty closely graded

1650
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 6: then you might break the tie with the guy's got

1651
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 6: the thirty. Three in charms, so cash is how would

1652
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 6: be the guy that can help himself with the Athletic

1653
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 6: Testing ar Mason? Thomas from oklahoma do we get?

1654
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 9: Measurements on him do let Me Give you, David, bailey

1655
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 9: first oh it's just for, comparison, to sake yep for

1656
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 9: people to say.

1657
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 7: It Doesn't matter david bailey thirty three, and, three, quarters.

1658
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 6: Yeap totally, that's that's yeah and good right There To

1659
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 6: our mason, thomas thirty, five thirty one, a big brand

1660
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 6: thirty one. And, five eights yeah so he'll be right on,

1661
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 6: the border there thirty one. And five, eighths you know

1662
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 6: so those are the kind of guys they may press

1663
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 6: closer to the end of. The first round it's it's

1664
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 6: a difficult, thing, To do right AND that's and I

1665
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 6: Know that andrew berry and his staff, HAVE you Know,

1666
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 6: i think andrew having been in this, chair long enough

1667
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 6: you have a little bit of a general feel for

1668
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 6: how he goes. About HIS business and i Would say,

1669
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 6: that andrew generally and this is not not every, single

1670
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 6: DRAFT pick but i would say there's a strong history

1671
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 6: of he's been a VERY.

1672
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: Trait.

1673
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 6: C gm right he has been, on high, weight sped

1674
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 6: guys younger. Prospects, as well right they've been drawn to,

1675
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 6: the true juniors the. Four year players and we're in

1676
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 6: a new world where there's a lot of guys that

1677
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 6: have been playing for five or six years because then

1678
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 6: ill draws. You back in you read shirt. Your freshman

1679
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 6: season by, your fifth year you're making. Five million bucks

1680
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 6: you know that seems pretty good hard, to, Pass ON

1681
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 6: right so i do think that the measurements matter for

1682
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 6: some teams, more THAN others and i Would say the browns

1683
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 6: seem to be a team that does.

1684
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 7: Skew towards them, To Your point Dylan Samson and harold

1685
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 7: fannin went through training campus. Twenty year, Olds yes here

1686
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,839
Speaker 7: samson didn't turn twenty one into Week. Two in baltimore.

1687
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 4: The player insane he was youngest player. In the league the.

1688
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 6: Entire Ye insane so i'm trying to. Think Of Guys

1689
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 6: so Keldric, fulk from auburn one of the youngest players in,

1690
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 6: This Draft class monroe feeling one of the younger players,

1691
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 6: in this class Offensive tackle.

1692
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: From george the twenty four if he's there.

1693
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 7: At twenty four.

1694
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 6: I've BEEN on the nfl Our show With kyper and

1695
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 6: green that we, do First draft, and, i've said, like

1696
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 6: you know if we did a, bold Prediction Show is

1697
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 6: monroe feeling? Going sixth overall like the single crazy thing?

1698
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 6: You've ever heard it. Isn't TO me and i Am

1699
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 6: a known, Monroe feeling believer stan, if you will we're

1700
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 6: talking about measurable six foot seven hill once he measures

1701
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 6: it might be thirty five plus inch, arms for him

1702
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 6: a wingspan that might challenge eighty five. EIGHTY six inches

1703
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 6: i think his best football's. Ahead of him can He

1704
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 6: Play with Jared Allen and mobiley that would. Be Also

1705
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 6: Useful although, james harden's thought we're gonna. Play through it

1706
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 6: we're gonna, play THROUGH IT don't i.

1707
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 4: NBA is.

1708
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 6: FUNNY i don't i don't have a reason for that,

1709
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 6: loss last night. But we, digress BUT yes so I

1710
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 6: think that monroe is going TO have some i think

1711
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 6: he's primed for a move. Up THE board but I

1712
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 6: could be i could. Be miscalculating, it you know You

1713
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 6: try to and This is a kuiper mindset that he's

1714
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 6: shared WITH me that i try to. Remind myself of

1715
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 6: is your ratings or how you see the players, your

1716
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 6: mock drafts or how YOU think the nfl will. See

1717
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 6: the players so my rating may be a bit INCONGRUENT

1718
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 6: with How i have monroe feeling. In Mock drafts but

1719
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 6: i'm bullish, on the PLAYER and and i think for

1720
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 6: teams of value sort. Of potential archetypes he's.

1721
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 4: One of them let's talk about this Draft. For the

1722
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 4: browns since we got into, the tackle position that's obvious

1723
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 4: that is. A big, NEED the other i would say

1724
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 4: is a. Stud, wide, receiver sure yeah how Do you

1725
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 4: feel let's start. With the receivers how do you feel about?

1726
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 4: This receiver class and is there's somebody at six that

1727
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 4: could be that number One For.

1728
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 6: THE cleveland Browns I think cardinal tate. Is the answer

1729
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 6: is wide receiver one? In this class good debates between Him,

1730
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 6: And Kayle lemon Jordan Tyson, from arizona state all them

1731
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 6: very different in terms of how they get. The Job

1732
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 6: done cardinal tate this past season had his Biggest Role.

1733
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 6: At ohio state he was not the. Wide receiver One They,

1734
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 6: have jeremiah smith who could be top five. Pick next

1735
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 6: year we'll. See, you guys Obviously You. Know jeremias king.

1736
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the wide receiver one on, Basically Right

1737
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: now jeremi smith be the number one ON twenty. Seven,

1738
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 4: nfl ty yeah he's, an amazing.

1739
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 6: Prospect unbelievable prospect so it's not really A thing against

1740
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 6: carnal it's more just The Reality of ohio state's wide

1741
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 6: receiver depth for all These, years with tate HE is

1742
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 6: don't i don't think you would blow you away. WITH

1743
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 6: the speed i think his body. CONTROL is superlative i

1744
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 6: think he's just. Always on balance he has played both

1745
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 6: big slot role put. In the perimeter it's one dropped,

1746
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 6: this past season averaged over seventeen. Yards a catch so

1747
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 6: while his speed is, not you know four, to three

1748
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 6: three he can definitely get. Down the field love the route,

1749
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,520
Speaker 6: running so, disciplined so, detailed right, place right time. CONSISTENTLY

1750
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 6: and effortless i always say that nobody looks like they're

1751
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 6: sweating less than carnal date. When he plays it just

1752
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 6: it all comes very. Naturally to him Well Coached, at,

1753
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 6: Ohio State, obviously jordan. Tyson extremely explosive he's a trickier

1754
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 6: evaluation this season because he had a couple factors. Working

1755
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 6: against him he's banged up this past year deal with

1756
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 6: the hamstring injury after previously doing with a broken collar

1757
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 6: bone and a, major knee injury and his quarterback played

1758
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 6: this past. Year Was Undone right sam levitt IS. Now

1759
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 6: at Lsu The entire arizona state season kind of went.

1760
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 6: By the wayside so if you're just using this, past

1761
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 6: year's film like tur Are times were my Favorite Plays

1762
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 6: from jordan tyson are the plays in which the ball was.

1763
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 6: Nowhere near him it's like he dusts some corner on

1764
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 6: a ridiculous route and the quarter throws the ball to

1765
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 6: the other side. Of the field, but you're like if

1766
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 6: he had, gotten that ball we might be talking about

1767
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 6: him in. A, different light sure but the medical will

1768
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 6: be factored. Into His evaluation makay lemon is, such a, baller,

1769
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,839
Speaker 6: great player tough great raft, of the. Catch strong hands

1770
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 6: when he, measures this week he might be some, five to,

1771
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 6: ten all right he's going to be in that Five

1772
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 6: tennis ragn.

1773
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 7: And that's kind of the thing about this.

1774
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 9: WIDE receiver, class i mean there, are, big guys yeah

1775
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 9: but there's a bunch of five eleven dudes as.

1776
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 7: Well, to play yes so they're playing out wide. At

1777
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 7: five eleven so.

1778
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 6: It's a very unique class. In THAT way But I.

1779
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 6: Love carnel tate think he Would be if i'm picking

1780
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 6: one at six, and he's available he'd be my Pick.

1781
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 6: For the browns, people, keep saying, like you know do

1782
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 6: you just the wide receiver depth, is so great do

1783
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 6: you just take an offensive tackle at six and then

1784
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 6: take a wide receiver? AT twenty four a couple of

1785
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 6: things as, evidence last year you can move up or

1786
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 6: down the board that's ALLOWED in, the nfl draft and

1787
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 6: that it's easy for, us, to say yeah You Should

1788
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 6: take carneal tate at six because so and so is

1789
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 6: going to be available, at twenty four. OR vice versa

1790
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 6: i think when you're on the clock a lot harder

1791
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 6: to like muster the courage to bet. On that happening

1792
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 6: right you are projecting, it might happen, but it's tough

1793
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 6: like when you're sitting there, AND you're like i don't

1794
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 6: want to, lose this player even if you think that

1795
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 6: the wide receiver, depth is better if you've got a

1796
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 6: higher grade in the wide receiver than the offensive tackle

1797
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 6: and you're, bullish ON him and i think you just take.

1798
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 6: The wide receiver you owe it to yourself and your

1799
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 6: scouting staff and, your coaching staff and your process is

1800
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 6: sound enough that you know this player is deserving, of

1801
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 6: this pick and as you look ahead that there's a

1802
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 6: chance that a couple of the guys you'd like will

1803
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 6: be there at twenty four real quick.

1804
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 7: On a buckeye, Hear, Another buckeye mel and this is

1805
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 7: not this.

1806
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 9: Is the portion. Of THE show and i hate being

1807
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 9: put in this. Position, AS well hey i can't believe

1808
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 9: the guy that you work with did this. Comment, on,

1809
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 9: It no Okay mel's got caleb. Downs at two that

1810
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 9: seems a bit, rich FOR me and i. Love, the player,

1811
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 9: yeah your Thoughts it's been let ME.

1812
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 6: See if i can do, math ninety one which is

1813
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 6: what thirty Five.

1814
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 7: Years Ago jamal adams? No, Ninety One okay jamal adams

1815
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 7: Is the last.

1816
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 6: Eric one of ye an all time great and one

1817
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 6: Of the. Great syracuse, alums of course right he was accused. You,

1818
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 6: STEEL that yes i. Screwed that up totally. Missed, That one.

1819
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 4: Right, you, did that, right you said one Of the

1820
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: great syracuse, alums, and.

1821
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 9: POINTED yes RIGHT i always i DON'T know why i.

1822
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 6: Was a great. Player as well that's a Weird One

1823
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 6: for ERIC turner, for i apologize but he was the

1824
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 6: highest drafted safety ever. Number two overall so it's, been

1825
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 6: a while so we had somebody go that high, at

1826
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 6: THAT position and i think there's part of it is evaluating.

1827
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 6: This draft landscape you know how many guys are Definitely Better,

1828
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 6: than caleb downs not. Many of them and then part

1829
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 6: of it comes down to this is it's hard to

1830
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 6: say this and like, process this sometimes but it's almost

1831
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 6: like if you had this allotment of, whatever, the resources

1832
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 6: right if you want to, call it dollars you want

1833
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 6: to call, it draft capital, whatever it is, and it's

1834
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 6: like you have this chance, to buy commodities which of

1835
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 6: these commodities is most valuable on. The open market it's

1836
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 6: like which we you. Would you prioritize and so some

1837
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 6: of it is if you have the number two overall

1838
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 6: pick And, you're the jets do you owe it to

1839
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 6: yourself to take a pass rusher somebody that? Impacts the

1840
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 6: quarterback Because What is miles garrett make per year forty

1841
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 6: million dollars point twenty five versus what does the Top

1842
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 6: safety MAKE and that's i Think It's now kyle hamilton

1843
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 6: at like twenty four million. Dollars per year so positional

1844
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 6: value is. Factored into it The The pro caleb downs.

1845
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 6: Case is amazing and If, you're the, jets you're saying

1846
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 6: we've got five first round picks over the next two,

1847
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 6: years and say, let's make sure we hit five out of,

1848
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 6: five good players go for the lot like the full

1849
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 6: allotment of players. Will be great then you just take

1850
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 6: them and you say we can rest, easy knowing that

1851
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 6: hey we're off to a one. For one start, we're on.

1852
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: Base.

1853
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 6: You know.

1854
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it is so cool hearing all of the conversations

1855
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 2: from the combine and THEN seeing the nfl get back

1856
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: to work with the. Business at hand today was a,

1857
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,640
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1860
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