1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: I Eat, Breathe, and Sleep The New York Jets. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 3: My team that is a tightrope walk across Niagara Falls. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: That's hard to. 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 4: Do, say name an inches, so finding that one little 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 4: inch to be successful, it all matters. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 5: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 5: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. 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The Jets became the only team 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: in the Common Draft era to make four first round picks. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Bill Parcells and personnel director Dick Haley drafted defensive end 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Shawn Ellis, edge John Abraham, quarterback Chad Pennington, and tight 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: on Anthony Becked. Ellis, a Tennessee product, went number twelve overall. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Abraham starred South Carolina, went right behind at number thirteen. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: Pennington was taken eighteenth, and Becked went twenty seventh. While 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: the four first rounders were unprecedented, the Jets also got 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: a fifth ace in the two thousand class when they 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: selected wide receiver Lavernias Coals in the third round. It 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: was Woody Johnson's first draft as an owner, and the 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Jets grabbed five players who would line up in forty 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: two playoff games for the Green and White, plus five 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen regular season contests. On this very special 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: installment of the Official DUTs podcast, we look back at 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: the jets historic two thousand draft class. Sean, what are 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this being the twenty fifth anniversary of 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: the two thousand Jets draft class? 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: Amazing when you peel back everything and you understand what 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: that class for the Jets really was. I mean, you know, 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: for us to you know, have as long a career 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: as we had, you know, it's amazing. So that's the 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: word I I summing up with with, amazing. 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: So what were your memories of the pre draft process 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: coming out of Tennessee. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: Well, for me, it was just I remember flying to 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: New York a lot. I remember me being up up 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: in New York a lot and didn't understand why. I mean, 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: after I went through the first couple of process and 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: then it was like I was up here every other weekend, 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: you know, so, so I kind of when it actually happened, 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: me getting drafted by the Jets, it all made sense then, 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: you know, they were just trying to figure out what 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: they wanted to do. 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: So do you remember, do you recall those interactions you 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: just said you were up here a lot up in 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the Northeast and New York. Who were you talking to during. 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: Well, parsel a lot? Yeah, I had meeting with a 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: parcel who was a GRO. I mean it was him. 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: The GM at the time was Terry, Terry Bradway. Terry Bradway, Yeah, 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 4: it was him, you know, talk to him a couple 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: of times. So it was just I guest to me, 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: I was talking with my wife yesterday, I was like, 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: remember all the times I was flying up here. I 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: kind of felt like they were just trying to hide 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: me from going to other teams. Really if it just 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: be stuck up in the hotel. I meet with him 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: that morning and I don't see them again for two days. 63 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: So Terry was actually Terry was actually hired in two 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: thousand and one, and then HERM. Edwards was hired as 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: head coach in two thousand and one. But you're right, 66 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: the architect of that draft in two thousand was Parcels. Yes, 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: for you, coming out of school, you would won a 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: national championship with the volunteers. You knew you were gonna 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: go early in the draft. What was that presence? Like 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: those interactions like with Parcels? 71 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: It was just great to the point, you know, he 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: was truthful with me. He saw a vision for me. 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: He bleed in my talents, and he just told me 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: just stay the course. So you know, on my projection 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: where I'm going and everything could be fine for me. 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 4: So you know, I just wish he could have stayed 77 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: the whole time, you know, doing our career. 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, because the rookie season of two thousand 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: you played under l Grow and then Herbs was hired 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: in oh one and then Herm was on board from 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: oh one to five? 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: Where were you draft weekend? 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: You know how typically people get together, maybe have the 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: folks at their house and gather. 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: What did you do? 86 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: I was in asking me and John we had a 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: draft party together in Columbia, South Carolina, So our families 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: met up in Columbia. We rented out this sports bar, 89 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: and we had a family night there and that's where 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: it all went down. 91 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 92 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: How many people were there do you think. 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: Might have been? I know it was a lot. 94 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: It was a lot of my family members, a lot 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: of my my neighborhood from where I'm from was there. 96 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: So for me, it had to be over with two 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: hundred people. 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: Hey, So was there an element of surprise though? 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: Because the Jets had to move up to get you 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: at twelve they moved up for spots to get that 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: selection right. 102 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: Now, it was it was a surprise. 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: They didn't like hint one way or another, like we're 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: going to take you, you know, But when it happened, 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: it made sense, you know, because I spent so much 106 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: time up there and well in New York. 107 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: So actually I thought I was going higher. 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: I thought I was going higher, and but you know, 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: the chips failed away at failed all right. 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: So you said, this is so interesting that you had 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: a draft party with John Abraham. Now Abe ends up 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: being selected one pick after you. He attended South Carolina. 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: With that being said, what was your relationship like with 114 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Abraham at the time. 115 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: At the time, we were friends. You know, we grew 116 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: up well, we didn't grow up together in the same neighborhoods. 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: I'm from the upper State front of the lower State. 118 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: But through football, you know, reading the papers and and 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 4: the banquets, you know, the all star bankers for the state. 120 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: You know, we became friends. 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: And it just solidified when we became when we signed 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: to the same agent, and then that built our bond 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: even further. 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: All right, is there is there a moment there where 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: you pick up the call, you're celebrating, you're awfully emotional, 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: and then you find out that the next pick is Abraham? 127 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: What was that all? Like? 128 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: I think at the time both of us were standing 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: there when it happened. So they called my name, so 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: you know, obviously I'm hugging my mom and all that, right, 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: and then while I'm doing that, he happy for me, 132 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: and then he don't. 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Even really get to hear his name called. 134 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: It was right, you know, he didn't expend for us 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: to go back to back like that, and then he 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: was our agents like him, Hell go the phone and 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: that thing. You know he was going to He was 138 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: coming to the Jets too, so it was just like, 139 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: you know, amazing. 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: So you guys are celebrating. It's a festive atmosphere. And 141 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: then a couple picks later, you hear that the Jets 142 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback out of Marshall named Chad Pennington. 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: What were your thoughts? 144 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: Well, I knew Chad, Well didn't know him. I knew 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: him from Marshall throwing the random off. So that was 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: like a big thing, right, the creed had with random off. 147 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: So hearing his name, I was like, great. You know, 148 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: I met Chad once in Tennessee, you know, just hanging 149 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: out one night. We met, not knowing that he was 150 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: gonna be my teammate. Like a couple months later and 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: you know, they called his name. I was like, wow, 152 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: Chad coming to the Jets too as well. So it 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: was just crazy, man. 154 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: So Anthony completes it. He's the fourth first round pick. 155 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Did you think at that time that hey, we have 156 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: a chance to put our imprint on the franchise or 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: you just getting drafted is like, hey, listen, I just 158 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: got to take care of my business and then see 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: how everything transpliers down the road. 160 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: I mean pretty much, just you know, we just got 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: me take care of my own business. It really didn't 162 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: dawn on me until I guess later on with the 163 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: significance was because we didn't have much detail on how 164 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: everything went down. So once we came, once we came 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: to the Jets, and then they started calling us the 166 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: four Horsemens, and and you know we're taking pictures together. 167 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: You know it don't understand that it was something special. 168 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: But again, we was young, so we didn't know what 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: we was getting into. 170 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: You know. 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: So what nickname did you like the best? You just 172 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: mentioned the four horsemen. That's pretty cool. 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 174 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people always said four aces as well. 175 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think at first of the four horses, right, yeah, 176 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: I think at one point was or then it changed 177 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: to the four ases. 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: How it was. I liked the four aces. What's up? 179 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: Okay? 180 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So did you have any idea that you 181 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: were picking up this stud in the third round? Lavernius Calls? 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Like on Draft weekend? Hey, you actually beat Florida State 183 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: in the National title game. But did you know what 184 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of player Calls was going to be? 185 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 186 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we watched a lot of tape on him, 187 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, coming up in that National championship game with 188 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: him and Peter Ward, So just just getting familiar with 189 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: him through game footage and they actually playing against him, 190 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: and then when he got drafted, I was like, wow, 191 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 4: you know, we got a good receiver then, you know. 192 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: So, yeah, outstanding receiver. Looking back now, as you guys have. 193 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: Had an opportunity to do, I think here in these 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: days as we head to the draft, the twenty twenty 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: five NFL Draft, what are you most proud of what 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: you guys accomplished. 197 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: I guess we're coming in and getting a team to 198 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: the playoffs on a on a regular basis, if you 199 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 4: want to say, and just just just our you know, 200 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: toughness that that we had considering everything that we went 201 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: through with the coaching changes, with with you know, the 202 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: whole dynamics of the Jets, and for us to still 203 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: you know, stay levelheaded and stay committed to the game, 204 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: you know, and kept working to try to get to 205 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: a certain place in our careers, you know, with all 206 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: the injuries and whatnot. It was just our prowess just 207 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: to keep just to keep marching forward. 208 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you made it look easier early on in your 209 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: career rookie season, I think you had eight and a 210 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: half sacks, and then you go all the way to 211 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: twenty ten, your final year with the Jets. One of 212 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: your last games was that divisional round victory over the 213 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Patriots when you had two sacks. When you look back 214 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: at your career with the Jets, what stands out to 215 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: you individually. 216 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:03,359 Speaker 4: Individually? What stands out to me individually? I think individually 217 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: for me is just my approach to the run game. 218 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: I think for me, the way I like to play 219 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: in the run game and playing in like multiple defenses, 220 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: different positions within the line, having to sacrifice my game 221 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: a lot, you know. I think I think that's you know, 222 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: and still turn out to have a good career, you know. 223 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: I think for me, that's that's the most. 224 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: That dynamic with Abraham. Can you speak to that? 225 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: And do you ever wonder what it would have been 226 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: like if you could have played a little bit longer 227 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: with him as well? 228 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,479 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, definitely. 229 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: I think we could have could have end up been, 230 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: you know, to the best defensive ends in the league 231 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: at that time, if not in the history of the game. 232 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, times, the times that I was able to 233 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: really play defensive end, I think. 234 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: He was gone then, so are you? 235 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I only played defensive end like really twice, 236 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 4: like real defensive end. You know, all the rest of 237 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: them like two gapping and three four defense for me. So, 238 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: like I said last night, that was a learning curve 239 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: coming in as a rookie not understanding what really three 240 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: four really entails the traditional three four. 241 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I was saying. I had to like stay. 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: Out to practice every day just to get the stands 243 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: just the concept of what I was supposed to be 244 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: doing down, you know, because I struggled a little bit, 245 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: you know with that defense. You know, because I was 246 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: an attack guy. I was like to get off the ball, 247 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: like to use my size and speed and to come 248 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: and having to be a three to four end. 249 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: It was like so frustrating. It was so frustrating. 250 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Because you got to be unselfish and that with that position, 251 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: because you're taking on blocks. I mean, bottom line is, hey, 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the time your job is to free 253 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: up other people. 254 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Frail for other people. 255 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: And then you know when you see the numbers, you know, 256 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: me getting aim and half sass that year, it was 257 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 4: like incredible, you know because to me, I'm like, now 258 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: I should have had I should have had double digits. 259 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: I missed a couple, but you know, just just to 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: fight through all that and still be productive in the 261 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: past game. You know, I definitely had my eyes set 262 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: for when herm came in right, because I'm like, cool, 263 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: finally I get to go back the end. I could 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: to play my position. Me and Abraham will be bookings. 265 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: So we show we showed flashes when both of us 266 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: out there, like we could really put pressure on the quarterback. 267 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: Then her and Kane he moved back to d tackle 268 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: and you know, again I had to go through another change, 269 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: had to gain weight, do all that, and it just 270 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: wasn't good for me. And then finally they moved me 271 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: back outside, went on way out of shape, and my 272 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: numbers suffered within those two years, and then finally got 273 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: back on track and get to the Pro Bowl had double. 274 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: So I mean, if me and Abe could have like 275 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: just could have just left us alone and just let 276 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: us play left and right, I think it would have 277 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: been like awesome. 278 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: How unique was Abe in terms of his past rushing proworths. 279 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: And also do you think that he should be considered 280 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame when you look at the 281 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the totality of his career. 282 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly why not? 283 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: Because if you look at his numbers, his numbers is 284 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: up there with the best of so, I. 285 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: Mean he should he should be. It's shocking to me 286 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: that he's not. 287 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know what's the you know, the politics 288 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: in that, but yeah, his his speed, his ability to 289 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: get low and bend the corner, you know, and to 290 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: get inside was like second to none. 291 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: Huntington, he really took the league by storm there in 292 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and two when he took over for Vinnie. 293 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 294 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Your memories that two thousand and two season where you 295 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: guys started out of the gates slow, you make the 296 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: quarterback change, and then Pennington leads you guys to a 297 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: division title. 298 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was that was That was a rough start, 299 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: you know at the beginning of that season, but we 300 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: battled back and then when Chad came in, he just 301 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: let us you know, he didn't he didn't wave it 302 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: one bit, you know, he said. 303 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: You know, he go do his job, he can help 304 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: us get out the hole. And we just followed him. 305 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: You know. 306 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: The defense we had a good defense that year as well, 307 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: so and to go and play against the Coats and 308 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: win that game, you know, was was you know huge 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: to have a playoff game at home. We haven't had 310 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: that in a while, so to win a playoff game 311 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: at home against the Coats, against Manning and to blow 312 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: them out like that was like huge. 313 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: That's the last time the Jets had a home playoff game, 314 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: you know that, right? 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yep? 316 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: It felt like throughout your career here with the Jets, 317 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: like almost every other year and then Rex gets here 318 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: or her and following the old eight season in oh nine, 319 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: ten back to back runs the FC championship games. 320 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: What were those respective runs like for you? 321 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 322 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: Man, it was considering where where the organization you know, 323 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: it had been, and where we was at that at 324 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: that time, and getting too to those two FC championship games. 325 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: Man, it was, it was, it was you know. 326 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: Lovely just say it was lovely considered considering everything that 327 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: the Jets went through and to be able to be 328 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: knocking on that door like that, it was just like, 329 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 4: you know, time, it's been too long, it's time for 330 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: us to get there. It's time for us to get there, 331 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: and just to you know, just to urge and wanting 332 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: to get to the Super Bowl and win it for 333 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: our fans, you know, that was all in my mind, 334 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: you know at that time, you know, we fell short, 335 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: but we had a we had a major run those. 336 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: Years, you certainly did. 337 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: How much of an appreciation did you have for back 338 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: because he's a guy kind of put us hard, hat on, 339 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: want to work, not a lot of flashy numbers, but 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy much like you on the offensive side 341 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: of the ball. 342 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: Is you knew what you're gonna get from Anthony in 343 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: terms of being a blocker. 344 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I had to go. We was 345 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 4: baling every day, me and Anthony. So we go hard 346 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 4: at We went hard at each other, you know, just 347 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: just him. The pride that he took into the ring game, 348 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: the same pride I took him to defending the run. 349 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: So you know, so we had our battles, you know, 350 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: doing doing practice and things like that. But a man 351 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 4: is Anthony Beck is a hell of a guy, you know, 352 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: smart guy. You see what he's doing now coaching. So 353 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 4: he was definitely a person that loves the game. He 354 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: came out, he workes, you know, screamly hard, and you know, 355 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: he was just a great teammate to have. 356 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: All right, So you when you up to the league, 357 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: when you were drafted by the Jets, you come into 358 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Weaview Bank Hall on the campus of Hofster University and 359 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: one of your defensive teammates is a cornerback by the 360 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: name of Aaron Glenn. 361 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: What was it like to have Aaron as. 362 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: A teammate and now twenty five years later, what is 363 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: it like for you, big cat, to know that Aaron 364 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Glenn is leading the Jets. 365 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 366 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 4: Man, it's great. You know, I'm excited for him. I 367 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: hope he's able to do everything that he set out 368 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: to do with the team and lead them, you know, 369 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: to the premised land. But walking into that locker room, 370 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: you know, first my first experience of ag is like 371 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: he always the life of the locker room, always always talking, always. 372 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, yaffing, stirring to pot up with people. You know. 373 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: Then you go out there on the field. He challenged 374 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: you all day long. You just hear his voice all 375 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: day long in practice and to get into meet rooms. 376 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: Then you realize, like, man, this dude knows his stuff, 377 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, the coverage, 378 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: he like he knows everything. And just to be able to, 379 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, experience it as a rookie and seeing that 380 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: it just stepped up all game up even more of 381 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: how professional that we have to be. 382 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: So he left a huge impression on you from the 383 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: get huh oh. 384 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even really think he knows it, but 385 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: yeah he did. 386 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when you heard the Jets it hired 387 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: him and he's gonna be leading them to start the 388 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season. You mentioned that before. I mean, 389 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: how much like do you have a family feel now? 390 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Even more so to the Jets because this is. 391 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: The team that drafted you. 392 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: You were a first round pick, but Aaron Glenn was 393 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: the first round pick of the Jets. 394 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: In ninety four. 395 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: Like, he's the guy who has blood, blood sweat and 396 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: tears into this thing. 397 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Here he is again, here is again. Yeah. 398 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: Man, Like I said, it's awesome, you know, for him 399 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: to come back around and to get his his head 400 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: coach and start with the Jets. I mean, I feel like, 401 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: just it's just blessing in disguise, you know. I think 402 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: it's one of those it's one of those feelings of 403 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: you know, it's just I can't explain it. I'm excited 404 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: for him myself, So I can't wait to see him 405 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: on the sideline, you know, doing doing his thing, doing 406 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: what you do. So I just can't wait to see him, 407 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: you know, I haven't seen him in a while, so 408 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: I asked about him a lot. I run into Ray 409 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: Mickens a lot, so you know him, and Ray Mickens 410 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: was really real cool. So I talked to him a lot. 411 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: Ray and asked him about AG a lot. So the 412 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: fact that he even went into coaching years ago, I 413 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: knew then, like if. 414 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Like that was his his passion. His passion was the coach. 415 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: Maybe he didn't realize that he was in the league, 416 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: but he was always helping and coaching play as a teammate. 417 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: So it just see him now. It just transitioned to 418 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: him being a head coach. It's great. 419 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: The two thousand draft was foundational for the Jets organization 420 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: from a National Football League perspective. A guy, a skinny 421 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: dude out of Michigan was drafted in a sixth round 422 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: by the New England Patriots. 423 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: That was Tom Brady. 424 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him going in the sixth round the 425 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: same draft that you went in the first round with 426 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: three of your future teammates and John Abraham, Anthony Beck 427 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: and Jet Pinnington of. 428 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 4: Course, Yeah, Well, the drift really didn't know much about 429 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: Tom right, I didn't really know much, but I wish 430 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been hustling to chase him down out 431 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: of bounds. 432 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: I wish I would have. I wish I would have 433 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: been loafing on that plate. 434 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: So so you're talking about Drew Bledsell two thousand and 435 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: one season, right, You know that was a tough moment 436 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: for Jets fans because you guys ultimately won that game. 437 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: I was on the field that game was ten to three, 438 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Curtis Martin had more than one hundred yards, and you 439 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: guys played fantastic defense. 440 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, So to be able to be it, well, 441 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: Mo did the major damnage to the hit. But I 442 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: feel if I wouldn't never tried to script the ball 443 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: out the back, he would have saw mode and it 444 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: just went out of bound. 445 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he didn't. So that hit led to Brady 446 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: coming in. 447 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: So unbelievable because the connections are everywhere, right, because the 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: Jets ultimately were able to select you because Belichick resigned 449 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: as head coach at NYJ and he went on to 450 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: New England of course, right right, right, So, so what 451 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: do you think it's going to be like Draft weekend? 452 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: Looking back now twenty five years, will you tune into 453 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: the draft to see what the Jets are doing in 454 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: your former teammate and Aaron Glennon in his first draft. 455 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be watching. 456 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean I watched the draft every year. 457 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: I try to, you know, try to pick and you 458 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: know who the Jets you choose. I try to play 459 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: the little draft guru game a little bit. 460 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: All right. 461 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: So this is good man, this is good, big cat. 462 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: And who you going with number seven? 463 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: Uh? I think I'm gonna get the kid from Michigan, 464 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: the defensive tackle. 465 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: Oh, Mason Graham. 466 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: Mason Graham. 467 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course you lineman. 468 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because you know Quinn Williams. He needs some help. 469 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: He needs some young help. He needs some young help. 470 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: All right. So before we get you out of here, 471 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: I got a favor. 472 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: What would you say, looking at the camera here as 473 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: we talk, what would you say to a draft pick 474 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: who is going to be selected by the Jets next weekend, 475 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: after they're taken by the Green. 476 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: And White, after they take it by the Green? 477 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 6: Right? 478 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had a message, a heartfelt message from 479 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Sean Ellie. 480 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Oh well, it may not be pertaining football so much. 481 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: It's just life, that's fine. 482 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever advice you want whatever congratulations you want. 483 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: My I would say, keep your circle small, right, and 484 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: that even means your family members sometimes, Well, you got 485 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: to keep that circle small. And you have to understand 486 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: that it's a business and that every year you're required 487 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: to produce. 488 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: Right. 489 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: So with that being said, you have to eliminate certain 490 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 4: things from your life. And I think coming in as 491 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: a rookie, you still have the baggage of college habits. 492 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: You have the excitement of getting new money and all 493 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: that goes all the you know, drummer that goes with that. 494 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: So my advice would be to just eliminate all the 495 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: scratch Try to eliminate all discratchings, keep your circle small, 496 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: just focus on the craft that hand, and keep your 497 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 4: head down. 498 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: There's no light at the end of the tunnel. 499 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: When you do see light, you can walk out of it, 500 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: hold your head high and say I gave it all 501 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: that I have that I had, and you could just 502 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: ride off into the sunset. 503 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: I love that before you ride out into the sunset. 504 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: What about playing for the Jets organization? What would you 505 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: say to a draftee about playing for this place and 506 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: plane for Aaron Glenn. 507 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: Well, playing for the Jets is an ultimate experience in itself. 508 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: You have you have fan base that love you and 509 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: they hate you too, so it's a love and hate relationship. 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: So long as long as you're giving them what they want, 511 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: they're going to love you. And and and that's you know, 512 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: they're the type of fans that a hold you accountable 513 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: and show you love it at the same time, Aaron Glenn, 514 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 4: you're getting a coach that's going to be that's going 515 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: to hold you accountable, that's going to work as hard 516 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: as you going to work. And and as a team, 517 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: you're going to have a great time with them because 518 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: he's a fun guy, and he's a guy with no nonsense. 519 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: He's idle. 520 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: So you know, you just go in and just do 521 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: your work and just do what he asked you to do. 522 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: Just meet all your requirements and you'll be fine. 523 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: Awesome advice and and we're gonna get you out with 524 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: this one. 525 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: Snowball in Seattle. 526 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: Your recollections tell us what you saw leaning into it, 527 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: and then what prompted. 528 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: You to have that kind of interaction with the fan. 529 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: I want you to have phone with this. 530 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, standing on the field getting getting hit with 531 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: snowballs while we're playing in the game, you know. So 532 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 4: that was frustrated, right, and then we go to the sideline, 533 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 4: We're getting hit with snowball. So when the game was 534 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 4: over with, So when the game was over, I'm like, okay, 535 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: all right, walking out, walking out. They still hitting us, 536 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna join the party. I'm gonna join the 537 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: snowball fight. When I went to go pick up the 538 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: snow I didn't intend for it. I didn't realize it 539 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 4: was that big, right, So I'm reaching out, like I'm 540 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: gonna just make me a snowball. 541 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: So when I grabbed it and it, you know, and 542 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: I picked I. 543 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: Just said forget it and I went and just throw 544 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: it in the stands and ran off. 545 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: So it was all in fun. I felt like I 546 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: had to get my lip back. 547 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: The Jets fans to this day are still saluting you 548 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: for that, right. 549 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I loved it. 550 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was That was That was fun. 551 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: Was actually that was well, it wasn't too fun for us, 552 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: but the game itself, but planning that environment was fun. 553 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: It was fun. 554 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Well led to do a couple of great years because 555 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: after you know, slow ending to that season two thousand 556 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and eight and you guys got going to nine to 557 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: ten for two of the most memorable seasons in franchise history. 558 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 559 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: Hey man, this was fun. 560 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: All right, man? Thanks for having me. 561 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 562 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 5: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shop game 563 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 5: Day Ready, jewelry styles and so much more at kendrascott 564 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: dot com. 565 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: Abe. 566 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: It's been twenty five years since that historic two thousand draft, 567 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: class man, What has the past couple of days been 568 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: like thinking about that? 569 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: That a quarter century has gone by? 570 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: Well, you know the funny thing is, I've been thinking 571 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 6: about it since probably twenty twenty three. You know, you 572 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 6: know those years are coming about. I'm like, dag, it's 573 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 6: almost twenty five years, and you know, and I wasn't 574 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: even thinking about myself. I was thinking about the two 575 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 6: thousand draft Tom Brad. I'm like, whonder we gonna do? 576 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 6: Tom Brady's gonna be twenty five other hold ons, I 577 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 6: was in that draft too, I sai, hold on, we 578 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 6: had four draft, I said, So. I actually put it 579 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 6: on my Instagram page. When I really start and realizing 580 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: I'm like it close, Well, I called Tracy perlmant first. 581 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 6: You know, I'm being a little brad. I was like, Tracy, 582 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 6: so what y'all doing for you? You know, it's twenty 583 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: five years for first round pick. Come on, what you're 584 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 6: gonna do? So I went to Instagram and said it 585 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 6: all so. But I was trying to tell everybody I 586 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 6: could before, like let's do something like you know, let's 587 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 6: do something, you know, just make the guys feel good 588 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: because you know me Chashwan not saying it won't happen again, 589 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 6: but you know that was that was something special that 590 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: happened in the NFL. 591 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: So who brought up the idea, Hey, maybe you guys 592 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: should have a draft party together? 593 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: There in you both just happened to have the same agent. 594 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Did he come to both of you guys and say, hey, listen, 595 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: I got a good idea, let's bring everybody the same spot. 596 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 6: It went great that day, though, like I tell people, 597 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 6: that is one moment besides that, in the sack moment 598 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: I wish I could have again, like just being drafted. 599 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: You know how it is, man, when you get on 600 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 6: the show and you're just your name is being called. 601 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 6: People don't understand like that feeling like you will never 602 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 6: really get unless you're an entertainer, unless you're somebody who 603 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 6: does something you know that well, you know how people 604 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: are now, people do so crazy stuff on IGI just 605 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 6: for attention, But I ain't never felt like it, even 606 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 6: though they boo the hell out of me, I still 607 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 6: was like just happy as hell, you know. And you know, 608 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 6: because you know a lot of us kids at the time, 609 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 6: I was twenty one, I'm thinking all my problems was solved, 610 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 6: and you know, being being an adult now, like I 611 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: wish I'd had a little more. I wish I'd have 612 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 6: stuck around you more. I wish I'd have listened to 613 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 6: you more. I wish I would have talked to y'all 614 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 6: more and like tell you how I feel, because I 615 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 6: still had a lot of growing up do as a man. 616 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: But were you you were able to actually celebrate the 617 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: moment because Sean was telling me that here you are, 618 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: he gets drafted, he gets the call from the Jets, 619 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: and you're congratulating him, and then a matter of seconds 620 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: it's you was getting drafted. 621 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, it was it was a 622 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 6: consistent euphoria because you know, it's like if you're watching 623 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 6: your kid do something, even if it's your brother or 624 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: your friend or somebody like and like I said, it's 625 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 6: like a connection we had like we first met each other. 626 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 6: It was like we were best friend, like d D. 627 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: So when he got his name, I called, I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, 628 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 6: So I'm waiting. I'm like, okay, cool, So I probably 629 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 6: go to San Francisco or Carolina because the Jets did 630 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 6: not contact me until the day before and it just 631 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 6: it just happened. I happened to be home and they 632 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 6: asked for my contact number because I really my friend 633 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: was like my roommate at the time, because I stilled 634 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 6: in a roommate. He was like, Hey, New York. On 635 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: the phone, I'm thinking it's the Giants. I'm just being real. 636 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: I thought. 637 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I said, I think that was 638 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 6: the Jets. After I got talked to him and then 639 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 6: it came down. So my celebration was it was just 640 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 6: it was like just having a big rush of relief. Man, 641 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 6: you know, playing four years, losing twenty one straight games, 642 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 6: you know, putting it leaving it all in South Carolina. Man, 643 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: it just ready to get it started. So like when 644 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 6: Shawn name was called, I was excited, and then they 645 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 6: like they leaned over just like this, oh John, hold 646 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: hold on, they're taking you at thirteen. And I was like, 647 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 6: what so you know it's literally Sean. Like right after 648 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 6: they said Sean name, his mom is family, everybody in 649 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 6: the site, and they just he literally just leaned like this, 650 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 6: hey John, somebody get John. And I seen him like 651 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 6: trying to get it because I was in the bathroom 652 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 6: trying to get ready and trying to calm down because 653 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 6: I ain't known what's happening. You get picked at thirteen, 654 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 6: I said, what so I had to go right back 655 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 6: to the bathroom. 656 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: I had to go right back to the bathroom. 657 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: I'm like, I broke down. I broke down, and then 658 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 6: they called my name and I gave my mom a hug, 659 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 6: and like I said, like I wish I wuld I 660 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 6: wish we had iPhones. Then I wish we had the 661 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 6: memories like that could be just taped the whole time, 662 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 6: because that's something like when me and Sean will always 663 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 6: share together. 664 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: B Do you realize history was at hand. That's unprecedented. 665 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Four first round picks because after yourself and Sean golf, 666 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: of course a couple of picks later. Chad Pennington for 667 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Marshall is selected and then at the end of the 668 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: first round Anthony Back from West Virginia makes it for. 669 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 6: Realistically. No, as I got older, yes, you know, I 670 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 6: thought like maybe it was something that happened before, you know, 671 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 6: because I wasn't really like you know, I played one 672 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: year in high school and four years of college. So 673 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 6: that's why I said, when I got to the league, 674 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 6: I wish I would have talked to people like you 675 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 6: more talk because you could have helped me out with 676 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 6: you know, the media. You could have helped me out 677 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: with like John who need you to do this, Like 678 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 6: we're not mad at you, but we want you to 679 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 6: talk more like this, or be more spacific like this, 680 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 6: we do want to see your life or give us 681 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 6: more some time like things like that. I think I 682 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 6: could have learned. And so when I got to the GETS, 683 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 6: I didn't know anything about y'all. So that's why I 684 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: was kind of quiet when I first got there. But 685 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 6: I said, I know I could play my ass off. 686 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 6: I got booze, so let me show these people that 687 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 6: I can play football. Let me tell these people like 688 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 6: I was worth the pick. And I never really got 689 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 6: into the Jets until maybe like maybe fourth or fifth 690 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 6: year in there, because the first three years were kind 691 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 6: of going like this. You know, I got hurt that 692 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 6: one year, and the next year I'm all Pro Pro Bowl, 693 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 6: the next year Pro Bowl. So the first three years 694 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 6: were going like I'm like, good Lord, so I'm thinking 695 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 6: i'ma be i'ma be one of the greatest Jets ever. 696 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 6: And then the DUI happened and it was just like, oh, well, 697 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 6: still here. 698 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Though, what what do you think the legacy this group 699 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: should be? 700 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: The two thousand Jets draft class? How do you want 701 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: them to this class? 702 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 6: Well, obviously the legacy is everyone ended up okay, like 703 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 6: the end of our careers. You see Chazz working for 704 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 6: the NFL. Sean is raising his great kids, and you 705 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 6: see his son's guy balling out. La Vernius is raising 706 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: his family now doing the little stuff with y'all, you know, 707 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 6: always being around the Jets. Anthony Beck's a head coach, 708 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 6: John Abraham is doing whatever he can now. So it's 709 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 6: like everybody had a successful ending. Like you know, even 710 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 6: though it was a lot of trials and tribulations, we 711 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 6: didn't end our careers. No one in their careers with 712 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 6: the Jesus. Well maybe Laverarnius. But I'm like, but we 713 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 6: all ended up good. Like it's nothing really bad. I 714 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 6: mean besides, like I said, trials and tribulations you go 715 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 6: through life. It's just men going through life. 716 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: Yo. 717 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Why were you guys able to play at a high 718 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: level for so long? Not just yourself, but when you 719 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: put it together, the aggregate. You Pennington, he endured a 720 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: lot in terms of injuries, and he kept on coming 721 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: back two times NFL Comeback Player of the Year. You 722 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: got Anthony back to played more than ten years in 723 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, and then Sean had that long run here 724 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: before he finished off his career with the Patriots, and 725 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Laverni has had two stints here as well. But it 726 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like anybody oftentimes you see the draft class a 727 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: you know this where oh, well, this guy played year. 728 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: This guy played fifteen games, he got hurt and he 729 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: just didn't work out for him. Why were you guys 730 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: able to endure and also play at such a high 731 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: level for so long? 732 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 6: I can speak for me personally. I wanted to be 733 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: the last man standing. And I think we all were 734 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 6: like that. Like, I mean, like even Sean, even me 735 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 6: and Lavernce. We made a little made a little pack. 736 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 6: You know, the first person to do this, We're gonna 737 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 6: have to pay them this, you know. So I think 738 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 6: we just had that competition in US and it literally 739 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 6: came from that draft because I watched Chad. Whenever I 740 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: played Chad, I wanted to give Chad teams my best. 741 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 6: Whenever I paid against Sean the Jets, I wanted to 742 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 6: give him my best. Whenever I had to see again, 743 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 6: whenever I had to see Lavernes, I want to give 744 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 6: him my best. Because being a first round pick in four, 745 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 6: you always gonna be compared to which one was the 746 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 6: best on them four. So you're like, oh, it was 747 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 6: Abraham the best, Oh it was Chad the best, or 748 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 6: he was the best? He the best. So I wanted 749 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 6: to stay as long as I could. But I also 750 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 6: want to be productive because I know where I came from. 751 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 6: I knew what draft I came from. I knew I boomed. 752 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 6: I knew that people didn't think, and I think we 753 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 6: all went throw ups and downs. Even with Beck you know, oh, 754 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 6: you know, can he catch the ball? Ken He turned 755 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 6: to a blocking tight end. At this Cole's had to leave, 756 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 6: go to Washington, come back to the Jets. Sean started 757 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 6: off slowly, then he picked it up in the middle 758 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: of his career that he ended up going to New England. 759 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 6: It was like we always had something go Chad with 760 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 6: his injuries, like you said, came back, go to Miami, 761 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 6: have to see the Jets every other day. Dang. Then, 762 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 6: So it's like all these competitions we always had in 763 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 6: our head, and it always like every time we run 764 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 6: each other, it'll be like I think Chad said it yesterday, 765 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 6: like every time we was here, just like we just 766 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 6: like seen each other yesterday, like all what's up, man, 767 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 6: It's just like, ain't nothing changed. And I think that's 768 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 6: the that's the competition that we had. But like when 769 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 6: you get drafted in a big loop like that, you 770 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 6: want to be the best one out of that thing. 771 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 6: It's just being four first round picks. You want to 772 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 6: be like, I gotta be up there. I got at 773 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 6: least match one of these guys. There'll be better. 774 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: You walked into that locker room in two thousand, there 775 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: was a guy playing cornerback who ended up playing fifteen 776 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: years in the National Football League. It was the first 777 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: round pick of the Jets in nineteen ninety four. 778 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: His name was Aaron Glenn. What was it like to 779 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 3: share a room with him then? 780 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: And now twenty five years later, it's all come full 781 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: circle because AG's the head coach of the team that 782 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: drafted both of you. 783 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 6: I tell everybody this the first when I first saw it, 784 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 6: the first thing I felt was mvy. And it wasn't jealousy, 785 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 6: it was envy. It was like, man, I know that's 786 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 6: gotta feel good, but also I know our hard AG work. 787 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 6: AG was nothing like me. Ag was nothing like Sean. 788 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 6: He was nothing like Chad, not like Anthony. He was 789 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 6: nothing like the Verneys. He was nothing like the five 790 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 6: people that came in there. He had his ownly. He 791 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: was a business wide. When you saw Ag, I always 792 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 6: just remember Ag with a briefcase. My mind just always 793 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 6: takes it back to him having a briefcase whenever we 794 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 6: do travel trips or somebody that you have a brief 795 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 6: place for himself Like this dude was always business and 796 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 6: the way he prepared, like you knew he was gonna 797 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 6: hear nobody. We won't worrying about that. But when it 798 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 6: came to if he had to hit somebody, he would, 799 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 6: But like when it came to covering and come to 800 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 6: knowing people and come to like always manning up when 801 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 6: it came to the best receiver, like he always wanted 802 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 6: the best received. You always wanted the man the man coverage. 803 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: And if you talk to Ag, because if you see 804 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 6: him as a man, his stature is not that big, 805 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 6: So the first thing you see is oh, and you 806 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 6: try to talk to him like anything else you're gonna see. 807 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 6: He's about ten feet talk like he has he has 808 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 6: a presence about him. Like I had a coach called 809 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 6: Lou Hols. If you saw Lou hoas Lou Holst was 810 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 6: probably a small guy. You know, he's real frail looking, 811 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 6: but you had so much respect his aura would just 812 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 6: walk in and you knew, like, I can't mess with 813 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 6: this guy. And that's how Ag is. And like I said, 814 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 6: like I said yesterday, and I keep saying, if he 815 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 6: has enough time to develop his team like he wanted, 816 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 6: I can see him being just one of the best 817 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 6: ever to come through the Jets. 818 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: Would it mean that much more for you as far 819 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: as not just the Jets winning, but also because you 820 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: speak in terms of family often, where you say, hey, 821 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: Sean Allison, consider him a brother, and you talk about 822 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: the organization in such high regard, would it be extra 823 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: significant for you to say, Hey, Aaron was a teammate, 824 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: a guy who I played with and now is going 825 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: to lead the Jets to potentially to promise Land down 826 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: the line. 827 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 6: You know. The funny thing is I say that about 828 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 6: everyone I played with, no matter what part of life, 829 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 6: even Quincy Carter. Quincy Carter has totally changed his life, 830 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 6: and I tell it about it. I was so I 831 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 6: played with Plinceton, New York. You know that. So people 832 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 6: don't understand, like the biggest thing, the reason why I 833 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 6: think I was always a little mixed up when I 834 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 6: played football. I was a bigger fan than I was 835 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 6: a player, So like it would be hard for me 836 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 6: to talk to Curtis Mark because it's freaking Curtis Martin 837 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 6: if people don't understand that, like they let John y'all 838 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 6: in the same league, or I'll see the white friendI 839 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 6: even though we got to say, oh, this is the 840 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 6: white Friendian, and I still feel that way to day. 841 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 6: I was just a big fan of the game. Like 842 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 6: I always said, I was gonna go to the NFL 843 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 6: when I was a kid, you know, when I played 844 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 6: one year high school football, But it was like when 845 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 6: I got there, it was still like like I got, 846 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 6: I got the pleasures to be around Brian Cox, Marvin Jones. 847 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 6: You know what I mean, I got kidim why to 848 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 6: knock me on my ass a couple of times. This 849 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 6: stuff that people in life could never say. So when 850 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 6: I give gratitude, now I give gratitude of being in 851 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 6: the same space with all these men that I grew 852 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 6: up watching and even afterwards I got to play with 853 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 6: Julio Jones, Matt Ryan, Like this is one being got 854 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 6: to be around all these people, and this is stuff 855 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 6: when I talk to people, and like I used to 856 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 6: be like, you know, man, just the locker room, But 857 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 6: now I see how amazing my life has been. And 858 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 6: AG is gonna just take it to another level. And 859 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 6: I think of the passion that he brings as a person, 860 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 6: just just this much can get in that defense and 861 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 6: the offense just follows. Because I believe in Justin Fields, man, 862 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: I think Justin will be comfortable. I think he'll have 863 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 6: somebody that AG can talk to him more like a dad, 864 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 6: a brother, a friend. And AG liked to be clean 865 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 6: and fresh, so he understand these young guys. 866 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: So let's let's be real. 867 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 6: Now you understands, understanding 868 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 3: M.