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Speaker 4: it's time for listener mail. We are going to get
Speaker 4: some updates from our fellow conspiracy realist about drugs, about HVAC,
Speaker 4: and we want to give a shout out to brock
Speaker 4: were hitping us to the return of the humble Farmer? Right, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: so thank you for keeping us keeping a finger on
Speaker 4: the pulse of that one. We're going to talk about
Speaker 4: a very disturbing story out of Australia, and then we're
Speaker 4: gonna you know, we got some we got some stuff
Speaker 4: we have to get off our collective chest about clones.
Speaker 4: But before we do any of that, we have been,
Speaker 4: like so many other people, tracing this Strange Story about
Speaker 4: Cape Middleton.
Speaker 5: The royal drama. Yes, we've become a couple of trio
Speaker 5: of royal watchers, haven't we been?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 5: It's interesting though there you know, I'm with you, Matt
Speaker 5: when we talked about it on Strange News a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks ago. Who cares like there is some who
Speaker 5: cares in us to it, like, okay, so you know
Speaker 5: the Prince of Wales has a mistress, so surprise, surprise.
Speaker 4: I just I do have to say one thing though, Nolans,
Speaker 4: we're getting in. I want to make a point that
Speaker 4: I didn't make when we're talking about this previously. Obviously,
Speaker 4: I am not a monarchist the opposite end spectrum any
Speaker 4: of us. Yeah, I don't think we are. But I
Speaker 4: do have to say something that didn't bring up earlier.
Speaker 4: One important thing for us to remember is that people
Speaker 4: in the monarchy, are in the aristocracy, are humans like
Speaker 4: anybody else, and they did not choose to be in
Speaker 4: their position, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Into it, that's true.
Speaker 5: The ones that married into it chose it a little bit,
Speaker 5: that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, before you really jump into I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody caught the joke, and I don't think
Speaker 2: I explained myself when we were talking about this last time,
Speaker 2: I said, my favorite Royal Watcher. The only person I
Speaker 2: pay attention to is Byron Denniston.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I caught that either.
Speaker 2: That's a character from Comedy Bang Bang, and I was
Speaker 2: trying to be silly because it's a really great character
Speaker 2: like Lady Amilia Spencer and the Grizz.
Speaker 3: Of course, that's a deep cut, bro.
Speaker 5: I listened to that show and I've seen most of
Speaker 5: the series, but not aware of that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, my bad, It's okay, though, Man, you
Speaker 2: explained it now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna seek those episodes out. But you know, we
Speaker 3: talked about.
Speaker 5: This on Strange News a few weeks ago, and then
Speaker 5: Ben and I Matt was we had some family obligations,
Speaker 5: but Ben and I went to New York and we're
Speaker 5: lucky enough to be on the podcast Sauce on the
Speaker 5: Side with our pal Gandhi from the Elvis Duran Morning
Speaker 5: Show and her producer Diamond had some real takes, you know,
Speaker 5: on this stuff and was all over it, and it
Speaker 5: gave me a moment to kind of realize that maybe
Speaker 5: I had I don't know, been a little easy on
Speaker 5: the royal family, perhaps in the segment where I was
Speaker 5: sort of like, there's nothing going on at all, everything's
Speaker 5: above boards, just having a surgery and photoshopping her own
Speaker 5: family photos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird that she would do that, a B.
Speaker 5: That this statement would come out signed C, which apparently
Speaker 5: is the way she signs her name, by the way,
Speaker 5: But at the time I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3: It seemed a little odd kind of doubt that.
Speaker 5: Many of the royals are doing their own twitters or
Speaker 5: their own exes. But then again, you know, there is
Speaker 5: a certain expectation that what you see on those kind
Speaker 5: of platforms, there's certainly a possibility that it is coming
Speaker 5: directly from the source. We certainly know that's the case
Speaker 5: with you know, Donald Trump, for example, and others that
Speaker 5: clearly are tweeting themselves because you couldn't pay people to
Speaker 5: write stuff this bad and self incriminating. But my main
Speaker 5: thing was, yeah, it's a little weird that she's been
Speaker 5: out of the public eye for so long, and it
Speaker 5: was a little weird that they posted this picture because
Speaker 5: of course it was going to be taken as sort
Speaker 5: of a proof of life kind of situation, and the
Speaker 5: fact that it was so weirdly and awkwardly doctored really
Speaker 5: called into question the whole thing. And I will stand
Speaker 5: by my whole thing about all of this, which is
Speaker 5: that the pr Firm or whatever it's handling the Royal
Speaker 5: families public affairs not doing a great job. Because you know, guys,
Speaker 5: we say it all the time. If there's a question
Speaker 5: and you just introduce more questions or introduce more vagueness,
Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna have a conspiracy feeding frenzy on
Speaker 5: your hands, right, And that's what we've got here.
Speaker 4: Especially with the royal family, right, which is a main
Speaker 4: character in so many conspiracies. And then this also, this
Speaker 4: kind of speculation is exacerbated in the age of social media,
Speaker 4: right because now people are able to share any kind
Speaker 4: of theory, whether or not it's based on fact or
Speaker 4: some kind of research, and then other people will go
Speaker 4: with it because it's the more interesting story.
Speaker 3: I remain.
Speaker 4: I still crack up about the the folk who were
Speaker 4: convinced for a while that Cape Middleton was out of
Speaker 4: the public eye because she got a Brazilian butt lift,
Speaker 4: which we mentioned previously. But I just thought that was
Speaker 4: so silly. I tuned into Sauce on the side because Diamond,
Speaker 4: I think had some of the best examinations of this right.
Speaker 4: She thought through it pretty in depth.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And we have another listener who's been thinking about
Speaker 5: this as well. This is in fact listener Mail and
Speaker 5: I haven't mentioned one of our beloved listeners, but we
Speaker 5: got a note from the Mitch Doctor, which is fun.
Speaker 5: Just a quick theory. Hey guys, here's a theory on
Speaker 5: k Middleton. I can't take credit for sparking this idea,
Speaker 5: but it seems to fit. Maybe she's an organ donor
Speaker 5: for King Charles, who is also in the hospital. A
Speaker 5: kidney donation seems more likely than some of the stuff
Speaker 5: currently on the internet. Tata for now, the Mitch Doctor.
Speaker 5: I can only hope and assume that if they're saying
Speaker 5: TATA for now, that they are in fact British citizens
Speaker 5: or maybe even royalty. Who knows, but thank you the
Speaker 5: Mitch Doctor. I think that's very interesting. In preparing for
Speaker 5: this segment, I did find a really cool article from
Speaker 5: The Intelligencer, which is I believe a offshoot of New
Speaker 5: York Magazine with it. This came out yesterday, as we
Speaker 5: record this on March twenty second, with a timeline up
Speaker 5: to now of all of the k Middleton brew haha.
Speaker 5: And Ben, you mentioned the Brazilian butt lift thing, I think,
Speaker 5: and we've heard people say that maybe it was a
Speaker 5: gastric bypass procedure and all of that simply from a
Speaker 5: statement from Kensington Palace. And now it's saying that her
Speaker 5: Royal Highness, the Princess of Wales was admitted to hospital
Speaker 5: yesterday for planned abdominal surgery, okay, And that came out
Speaker 5: on January seventeenth of twenty twenty four, and since that time.
Speaker 3: There hasn't that.
Speaker 5: That's kind of, you know, when the speculation started to
Speaker 5: thrive because she hadn't really made any public appearances reasonably
Speaker 5: close to that date. And then up until now except
Speaker 5: for the weird photoshopped image which we talked about and
Speaker 5: a video that came out, TMZ published, well it was
Speaker 5: a photo, I believe. TMZ published a paparazzi photo on
Speaker 5: March the fourth of Kate in a car with her
Speaker 5: mother near Windsor Castle. And then there was also an
Speaker 5: individual that's yes, sorry here it is. The Sun reported
Speaker 5: that Kate had been spotted shopping with William at Windsor
Speaker 5: Farm Shop, and I believe a video was taken, and
Speaker 5: there's even an article where the person took the video
Speaker 5: is quoted and kind of trying their best to de
Speaker 5: month these theories. But people have been trying to run
Speaker 5: this video through like AI algorithms to do facial matching stuff,
Speaker 5: because I do have to say, on an initial glance.
Speaker 3: She looks a little different.
Speaker 5: I could see where people are coming from and looking
Speaker 5: at this image in this video and saying, ah, that
Speaker 5: doesn't quite look like my Kate. And so there are
Speaker 5: people that are speculated that is not her, that she's
Speaker 5: been replaced. But then, like I said, the person the
Speaker 5: shopper who filmed this video or what are they now
Speaker 5: going to question if I'm a real person as well.
Speaker 3: That I put a fake Kate there? It is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: So I do kind of still stand by the fact
Speaker 5: that a lot of this stuff is just you know,
Speaker 5: like armchair sleuths. And what was the word we used
Speaker 5: on the segment. I believe it was something like recreational speculators,
Speaker 5: something along those lines. But what do you think, guys
Speaker 5: of the Mitch Doctor's theory? Well, first of all, I'm
Speaker 5: sorry I been. I want to point out too that
Speaker 5: the Diamond, the producer, did say, I think this might
Speaker 5: be a big way of a shifting focus off of
Speaker 5: King Charles's illness. But what do you guys think about
Speaker 5: this idea that Kate is a donor. She's not exactly
Speaker 5: a direct family so I don't see how that would
Speaker 5: how she would be a uniquely suitable candidate.
Speaker 4: Honestly, the organ donation thing is interesting from a story
Speaker 4: construction kind of perspective, But in terms of real life,
Speaker 4: would it not be more plausible that they would get
Speaker 4: a donor who is the perfect match, Like I think
Speaker 4: they would prioritize the safety of the donation process over
Speaker 4: the attachment of the family.
Speaker 2: Well, and wouldn't that be something to celebrate you're saving
Speaker 2: the King's life or something, you know, by donating part
Speaker 2: of your body.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also there a couple things at play. You
Speaker 4: don't want to have, well, you don't want to have
Speaker 4: any death, but for a monarchy to lose the monarch
Speaker 4: twice in quick succession, it's not a good look. So
Speaker 4: maybe this is distraction, Maybe this is Diamond also pointed
Speaker 4: out the possibility that there was a serious illness on
Speaker 4: Middleton's side.
Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, Matt though on Yeah,
Speaker 5: an organ donation would be that'd be a positive press story.
Speaker 3: Why would you hide that?
Speaker 5: If you were like, say, you know, that seems like
Speaker 5: something that you would look the bravery of this woman,
Speaker 5: you know, you would want to promote that.
Speaker 4: The only way you would The only reason I could
Speaker 4: imagine that you would want to hide something like that,
Speaker 4: which is a heroic thing to do, is because it
Speaker 4: might be indicative of just how how far the king's
Speaker 4: condition is deteriorated. So maybe that's what they're trying to
Speaker 4: keep under wraps if that theory is true.
Speaker 5: And you, guys, I think I asked this last time
Speaker 5: we were talking about this, but what is the true
Speaker 5: like to what end? What is the true benefit of
Speaker 5: being so you know, sneaky around the health of a
Speaker 5: public figure like that? Is it because it can affect
Speaker 5: deals and even markets and stuff? Is that you just
Speaker 5: want to keep that stuff under your control and as
Speaker 5: long as humanly possible, and don't want people to know
Speaker 5: what's really going on until the death actually occurs.
Speaker 4: That's part of it. I mean, there is state security
Speaker 4: wrapped up in this right, so stability of the nation,
Speaker 4: the appearance of stability is a hugely important factor. So
Speaker 4: I imagine that's in the calculation somewhere. But really we don't
Speaker 4: have enough information to say what's happening definitively. And I'm
Speaker 4: sure that there are a ton of journalists in the
Speaker 4: United Kingdom who are doing their best like social engineering,
Speaker 4: cold calling, trying to get information out of the monarchy
Speaker 4: and their staff. That may actually be the way that
Speaker 4: we learn what's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I guess I just don't think, you know, it's not
Speaker 5: the same as a president being sick to me, you know,
Speaker 5: because they're just so toothless, the royal family. They're just ceremonial.
Speaker 5: They have this lavish lifestyle that's largely to maintain this
Speaker 5: continuity of sort of history and tradition, but they don't
Speaker 5: really do anything so like what would what would be
Speaker 5: politically it's Is it just because the British people are
Speaker 5: so obsessed with them and there's such a reverence for them,
Speaker 5: or maybe I just don't get it because I'm not,
Speaker 5: you know, from there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's not for us. Every fair enoughty
Speaker 4: for everybody. But but yeah, you do raise a point
Speaker 4: the monarchy as tremendous real estate holdings, so that's that's
Speaker 4: a big deal. They're also a huge cultural and economic
Speaker 4: touchstone for the United Kingdom, like the UK government makes
Speaker 4: a ton of money off royalty, off the concept of it.
Speaker 4: Think about all the people who travel around the world
Speaker 4: see London and to go check out that stuff. So
Speaker 4: they do play an economic role, a big one in
Speaker 4: that sense.
Speaker 5: We were talking about that, I believe with somebody we
Speaker 5: were hanging out with the New York Just the tourism
Speaker 5: aspect of it is not something to be completely ignored,
Speaker 5: that's true. I don't know, Matt, You've been quiet on
Speaker 5: this one, any thoughts. I know this isn't your bag exactly,
Speaker 5: but it's not mine either. I just I mainly when
Speaker 5: we talked about it last time, my main interest was
Speaker 5: in just how the bruja around the photo and just
Speaker 5: realizing these standards that like you know, organizations like AP have,
Speaker 5: and how it was just kind of missed and just
Speaker 5: this whole distinction between like is this photo entertainment or
Speaker 5: is this news?
Speaker 3: And how is it taken?
Speaker 5: And just how quickly these things can sort of, you know,
Speaker 5: balloon out of control. But uh, you got any closing
Speaker 5: thoughts for us on this one, Matt before we take
Speaker 5: a break.
Speaker 3: Ah, Still, I don't care.
Speaker 5: Your Prince Charles as good as a good grumble, a
Speaker 5: very kingly grumble.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I hope everybody's okay.
Speaker 5: See you, I see you. I hope they're happy. I
Speaker 5: think they're happy. They don't seem very happy on the crown.
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's happy all the time.
Speaker 3: Fair enough.
Speaker 5: Well, thanks to the Mitch Doctor for that theory. I
Speaker 5: certainly think that it could be plausible, but I don't
Speaker 5: see why that, of all things, they would cover up.
Speaker 4: We guys agree to know more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's all right.
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with
Speaker 5: some more messages from you.
Speaker 2: We've returned and we are going to the emails, guys
Speaker 2: to get some updates on the last two weeks of
Speaker 2: strange news. We've got one coming in. Let's get started
Speaker 2: with an email from Brett, who wrote to us on
Speaker 2: March eleventh with regards to a bit of a smuggling story.
Speaker 2: We talked about the first person that was ever charged
Speaker 2: with smuggling greenhouse gases into the United States from Mexico,
Speaker 2: and Brett is coming to us with quite a bit
Speaker 2: of experience in the HVAC world. Let's see what he
Speaker 2: has to say. Brett says, I wanted to give you
Speaker 2: some insight on the latest strange news about the greenhouse
Speaker 2: gas smuggling. I'm an HVAC slash R that's heat ventilation,
Speaker 2: air conditioning refrigeration technician in New York. You're right that
Speaker 2: you do need a license to purchase refrigerants, a license
Speaker 2: granted by the EPA. That's kind of cool. You have
Speaker 2: to take tests and pass to get one of those things.
Speaker 2: The free on known as R twenty two, that's the
Speaker 2: substance that actually is a refrigerant, causes your refrigerator and
Speaker 2: your air conditioner to create cold air. Got to have
Speaker 2: this stuff run the air through it makes it cold.
Speaker 2: This free on, known as R twenty two, has been
Speaker 2: used for decades, and in twenty twenty four there's still
Speaker 2: equipment that uses it. Last summer, one twenty five pound
Speaker 2: bottle of R twenty two cost one thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. That's a ton of money, guys. Twenty
Speaker 2: five pounds seventeen hundred bucks. That's with vendors limiting supply
Speaker 2: per EPA regulations. We'll talk about it, but remember this
Speaker 2: R twenty two refrigerant free on is a controlled substance
Speaker 2: at this point, a highly controlled substance. Even though, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just a gas, right, it's free on, it's a
Speaker 2: form of gas.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: This is pertaining to the black market sale of the stuff,
Speaker 5: I'm not or the availability of it on Like was
Speaker 5: it Facebook marketplace?
Speaker 3: Right? Yes?
Speaker 2: Why it's so tightly controlled? Why this person got in
Speaker 2: trouble for bringing something like this free on refrigerant greenhouse
Speaker 2: gas into the US to sell? So, Brett continues, lots
Speaker 2: of older techs hate using the replacement of this free
Speaker 2: on the replacement of R twenty two because it's not
Speaker 2: as good and sometimes causes more issues from size of
Speaker 2: equipment to how much cooling it will produce. So, like,
Speaker 2: how large the equipment is that uses the R twenty two, right,
Speaker 2: I think that's what he's saying. Most times having to
Speaker 2: buy newer equipment to replace the old system, whether it's
Speaker 2: still in working condition. Some systems are only two to
Speaker 2: five pounds, so they only require two to five pounds
Speaker 2: of this stuff for homes, but mark up for labor
Speaker 2: and use of it. I think what he's saying here,
Speaker 2: with the huge cost of that greenhouse gas, you're only
Speaker 2: going to be using two to five pounds sap. Do
Speaker 2: you think that's what Brett's.
Speaker 3: Saying here, guys, that's kind of what I write.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Brett says it's cheaper to buy a brand
Speaker 2: new AC because most older techs and retired texts still
Speaker 2: have tanks of this good R twenty two greenhouse gas
Speaker 2: refrigerant they could use. And again, for this alone, I'm
Speaker 2: used to this being the norm, as it's the way
Speaker 2: of the job, but it does get hard telling those
Speaker 2: older generations who are retired with a fixed income that
Speaker 2: it's going to cost somewhere between three thousand to five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars if not a ton more guys to replace
Speaker 2: their old HVA systems that used the R twenty two
Speaker 2: and Brett signs off saying thanks for the show. So, guys,
Speaker 2: it just makes a lot of sense, especially hearing from
Speaker 2: somebody like this that this type of greenhouse gas that's
Speaker 2: used as a refrigerant, it's potentially dangerous. Right according to
Speaker 2: the regulators who have chosen to put regulations on this stuff.
Speaker 2: But also it's crazy, crazy expensive. I had no idea
Speaker 2: how expensive it was, but I call very vividly at
Speaker 2: my old house having to get more free on pumped
Speaker 2: into my really old air conditioning system, and it was
Speaker 2: I think it was three hundred and fifty dollars for
Speaker 2: a time, basically a shot of this stuff to refill
Speaker 2: my system.
Speaker 5: Isn't that stuff that people actually steal out of air
Speaker 5: conditionings because it.
Speaker 3: Is so valuable.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have no idea how you would do that.
Speaker 2: I've never looked into it.
Speaker 5: But I also think it's also something that people like,
Speaker 5: certain people like to huff. I have heard tales of
Speaker 5: people going to apartment complexes and like stealing free on
Speaker 5: out of those air conditioning window units.
Speaker 4: It's all a price point thing, right. As soon as
Speaker 4: the price or potential for profit reaches a certain threshold,
Speaker 4: then you know, anything can be stolen. Shot, catalytic converters
Speaker 4: and copper. Yeah, And there's also it's interesting because, first,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for the letter here, Brett. It's
Speaker 4: interesting because when I was looking into the context of this,
Speaker 4: the refrigerant smuggling, I didn't know. It's been a thing
Speaker 4: since the nineteen nineties, and it happened because of the
Speaker 4: regulations that came about to close that hole in the
Speaker 4: ozone layer. Remember when that was a big deal for everybody.
Speaker 4: So by fixing this one problem, which is a big
Speaker 4: problem society, the cobra thing, the cobra effects. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: cobra effect.
Speaker 2: You can go to a couple of places online. The
Speaker 2: one I found that immediately popped up just when you
Speaker 2: google R twenty two, which is called h hydro chlorofluorocarbon
Speaker 2: twenty two or HCFC twenty two. The replacements are weird.
Speaker 2: They have all kinds of names like R four one A,
Speaker 2: R one four A, are four oh seven C, and
Speaker 2: are four oh seven A. They are just refrigerants, but
Speaker 2: they don't have, at least according to the EPA, the
Speaker 2: same ozone depleting effects, which is.
Speaker 3: Why they're being used.
Speaker 2: But again, as Brett is saying, they maybe don't cool
Speaker 2: as effectively and they are going to cost you an
Speaker 2: arm in a lake. I don't have much else to
Speaker 2: say on that. Guys, just appreciate Brett calling in with
Speaker 2: personal experience like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 2: Then let's jump to another message we received from Always
Speaker 2: Something in Philadelphia. Love that, Love that, and Always Something
Speaker 2: is responding to the strange news where we talked about
Speaker 2: some people in Atlanta who are being targeted and attacked
Speaker 2: in local bars here in a place called Buckhead.
Speaker 4: Drugged and abducted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, and tens of thousands of dollars coming
Speaker 2: out of their bank accounts. So Always Something says, hither gents,
Speaker 2: I've been a sporadic listener for nearly ten years. We
Speaker 2: need to up your listening. Always Something needs to be
Speaker 2: a little more than sporadic.
Speaker 3: Just kidding.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening at all. And Always Something has
Speaker 2: been a sporadic listener recently since I've had a job
Speaker 2: where I can have headphones on. That's awesome, and I've
Speaker 2: been listening a lot more regularly. Oh fantastic, see you
Speaker 2: already are Yesterday I heard you just talk about the
Speaker 2: guys who had tens of thousands of dollars stolen after
Speaker 2: being drugged at bars in Atlanta. I'd be remiss if
Speaker 2: I didn't bring up the story of heart Throb Philadelphia's weatherman,
Speaker 2: John Belaris or Belaris.
Speaker 3: I think it's Belaris.
Speaker 4: I loved reading this, and by the way, you're an
Speaker 4: awesome writer too.
Speaker 2: So John Belaris, whose career was basically ruined because of
Speaker 2: a similar situation about fifteen years ago. Interesting John was
Speaker 2: a beloved weatherman and an A list local celebrity in
Speaker 2: Philly with a bit of a wild streak, known for
Speaker 2: things like being friends with controversial baseball player Lenny Dickstra
Speaker 2: or Dikestra. I guess I don't know this person, but
Speaker 2: according to the Internet, not great things.
Speaker 3: Not great things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sexual assault accusations. In twenty ten, there was this
Speaker 4: allegation that he paid an escort and adult entertainment actor
Speaker 4: with a bad check that bounced. He would go on
Speaker 4: to be arrested on multiple misdemeanor and felony counts of
Speaker 4: things like identity theft, possession of cocaine and ecstasy, grand theft,
Speaker 4: auto of the crime not the video game got you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, YOI don't pay for unscrupulous things with bad checks. Gosh,
Speaker 2: come on, Lenny, Okay. So John was partying in Miami
Speaker 2: and met some beautiful Eastern European women, at least according
Speaker 2: to the story, then blacked out and woke up to
Speaker 2: have tens of thousands of dollars missing from his accounts.
Speaker 2: He went public and he got help from the FBI,
Speaker 2: but he ended up losing his job and basically got
Speaker 2: blackballed because of the incident. If I remember correctly, this
Speaker 2: is always something saying that there was some victim blaming
Speaker 2: about him, tempted by the chance of a threesome, and
Speaker 2: speculation that he was trying to be an actual quote,
Speaker 2: John not just named John and was ripped off by
Speaker 2: the ladies. He was solictening, which resulted in his being fired.
Speaker 2: He then made national headlines after being interviewed about it
Speaker 2: on twenty twenty also in Playboy and by Howard Stern.
Speaker 2: And now apparently he's a realtor in Philly and still
Speaker 2: has local notoriety. Guys, I had never heard of this
Speaker 2: person before at all. John Belaris just an interesting piece
Speaker 2: of information that none of us had before. This always something,
Speaker 2: so thank you. But guess what, here's where things get crazy.
Speaker 2: You did not mention devil's breath, the substance it's believed
Speaker 2: that John was drugged with. It comes from a South
Speaker 2: American species of Datura dat u r a, which is
Speaker 2: a genus of night blooming plants known for their mystical
Speaker 2: and intense psychotropic properties, used in various indigenous cultures, medicines,
Speaker 2: and rituals, as well as in witchcraft.
Speaker 5: Bro is this what the guy in the car was
Speaker 5: being fed? He didn't know what it was. It had
Speaker 5: a hard time describing it. It wasn't a pill, remember that.
Speaker 5: I know, we don't know what the substance was. There's
Speaker 5: a great Vice documentary about this. The substance always something
Speaker 5: is describing here and from that documentary what we were
Speaker 5: talking about this briefly off air. From what I remember
Speaker 5: about that, the method of application was to blow it
Speaker 5: as a duster or and aerosol into the person's face.
Speaker 5: But that may that just maybe one possible method of deployment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming it's also consumed in one way or
Speaker 2: another in some of the other rituals right when it's
Speaker 2: more ritualized. So who knows exactly. I don't know exactly
Speaker 2: how it works. I remember a two thousand and seven
Speaker 2: piece from Vice, and then I think it was around
Speaker 2: the time we started our YouTube channel that Vice put
Speaker 2: that documentary out of probably twenty fourteen something like that.
Speaker 2: We've known about that for quite a while. We just
Speaker 2: didn't quite feel like this drug to us. But it's
Speaker 2: interesting always something to bring it up and as a possibility, right,
Speaker 2: because there is a dissociative effect with that drug where
Speaker 2: people seem to be let's say, pliable in their actions,
Speaker 2: almost like they're not really there. They'll go along with things,
Speaker 2: they're just agreeing to everything that if someone was in
Speaker 2: the position of like a captor, they might just agree
Speaker 2: with stuff like, hey, let's go to this bank account.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I guess that's what we're doing. Very weird
Speaker 2: at least that's the case of Devil's Breath and how
Speaker 2: it's been described, at least by Vice. That's really the
Speaker 2: only thing I've seen on it. Let's go back to
Speaker 2: the email. Here in the US, the most well known
Speaker 2: is Jimson weed, which is associated with stories of seventeenth
Speaker 2: century colonists ingesting it and going crazy. I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about jimsonweed, jims n That's another interesting thing to
Speaker 2: look up. It's feeling like there's another episode where we
Speaker 2: can talk about drugs that potentially could be used on you, right,
Speaker 2: as in maybe some kind of active attack. That could
Speaker 2: be an interesting episode. Yeah, all right, So continues on here.
Speaker 2: Devil's breath is known for its ability to make people
Speaker 2: who ingest it very pliable. Oh there's the word. That's
Speaker 2: why I had pliable in my brain because I just
Speaker 2: read this from us Always Something. Sorry for taking your
Speaker 2: word there. It makes feel very pliable and trusting while
Speaker 2: seeming coherent, then leaves victims forgetting the whole incident. So
Speaker 2: it's been known to be used in such con artist schemes.
Speaker 2: After the national headlines on the Belarus case, wece made
Speaker 2: a video called World's Scariest Drug. That's what we were
Speaker 2: just talking about, Ben And this is where they send
Speaker 2: a crew to Columbia to investigate and try the substance out.
Speaker 2: So enjoy this weird detura rabbit hole. Sincerely, Always Something
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. Well there you go. There's some stuff to
Speaker 2: check out on your own right now. World Scariest Drug
Speaker 2: on Vice. Learn about this interesting fellow here, John Belaris
Speaker 2: B O.
Speaker 4: L A.
Speaker 3: R I. S.
Speaker 2: And Yeah, just go down the rabbit holes yourselves. We'll
Speaker 2: see what we find and then let's come back together.
Speaker 2: Why don't you write to us or send us a
Speaker 2: message and let us know what you discover. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back with more messages from you, and.
Speaker 4: We have returned. We are traveling down south to visit
Speaker 4: our fellow conspiracy realist in Australia and this is an
Speaker 4: ongoing conversation. A big thank you to anonymous in OZ.
Speaker 4: We'll read the story. We'll stop along the way for
Speaker 4: a couple of different things, and we want to be
Speaker 4: careful with some details going in to do what we
Speaker 4: can to protect our listeners anonymity. Also unrelated, unrelated thanks
Speaker 4: to AA for writing in talking about the GHB, which
Speaker 4: should be in our episode on those drugs as weapons.
Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, I'm writing to you from Suddy and Steamy,
Speaker 4: far North Queensland in Australia. Your recent strange news story
Speaker 4: regarding those poor actors hired for the fake Wonka event
Speaker 4: prompted me to share my story with you. On twenty
Speaker 4: third June twenty eleven, I was hired as an extra
Speaker 4: aspiring actress and all that through my talent agency and
Speaker 4: told to attend a large hotel in the in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 4: There were two hundred extras, all hired from our agency.
Speaker 4: The only information we were given was to wear smart
Speaker 4: business attire, and here they mean smart, like you know, fancy,
Speaker 4: like your C suite at an office or something. On arrival,
Speaker 4: a lady check off our names and handed me a
Speaker 4: large envelope. Walking into the conference room, it became clear
Speaker 4: we were in an AGM, an annual general meeting of
Speaker 4: a very large corporation. I opened my envelope. There was
Speaker 4: a share certificate, so like a certificate giving you a
Speaker 4: certain number of shares, So a share certificate with my
Speaker 4: name and address on it. A ballot form for this
Speaker 4: big vote that had already been filled out. I was
Speaker 4: told to go to another person, show them my ID,
Speaker 4: my share certificate, and then put my ballot into a box.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the full name of the organization anonymous
Speaker 4: as originally, but it was definitely a life insurance or
Speaker 4: super annoation company. There were a lot of very distressed
Speaker 4: older people at the meeting. And this already sounds fishy, right.
Speaker 4: Being a paid actor in a Willy Wonka experience is
Speaker 4: one thing, But being paid to rig a corporation's votes
Speaker 4: is that what? That's what this sounds like, right?
Speaker 3: Geez?
Speaker 5: Like we talk about things like crisis actors sometimes and
Speaker 5: the word actor being thrown in there always to make
Speaker 5: me think of if this is even a thing. Where
Speaker 5: does one go to purchase the services of a crisis actor?
Speaker 5: Is the special service offered by talent agencies?
Speaker 3: It seems like an unusual situation. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It also reminds me of when lobbyists have rigged different
Speaker 4: local votes by packing packing crowds. But Anonymous continues and says,
Speaker 4: you can tell this was kind of weird for her too.
Speaker 4: She says, I asked why a share certificate had been
Speaker 4: made up in my name, and I was told it
Speaker 4: was done through my talent agency, and I was free
Speaker 4: to leave once I cast my vote. I was told
Speaker 4: I'd be paid for the full four hour call time,
Speaker 4: but you just had to show your idea and drop
Speaker 4: the ballot in the box. Then I was told if
Speaker 4: I handed them back my share certificate, I get an
Speaker 4: additional two hundred dollars in cash. So like, also, you
Speaker 4: have to sell the shares back to us?
Speaker 3: What yeah, they want to shaay clean.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, so there's no record of the payment then,
Speaker 2: or no that because she's getting paid as an actor
Speaker 2: and getting two hundred in cash, but the shares.
Speaker 4: Go if she if she sells the shares back, I
Speaker 4: guess technically, and it makes me wonder if that's the
Speaker 4: case for all these other extras. Then if you look
Speaker 4: at the company's record, it seems like there were all
Speaker 4: of a sudden a ton of people who got shares,
Speaker 4: voted once, and then got out.
Speaker 3: That's very unusual. This is, of course fraud.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, you know, I'm not like the king
Speaker 4: of fraud, but I think it is like I'm not
Speaker 4: a fraud expert, but it does. It's surprising to me
Speaker 4: that that is not illegal.
Speaker 5: It's like inside our training almost kind of right where
Speaker 5: there's maybe a gray area for when does that become
Speaker 5: a crime and what it is just kind of like
Speaker 5: acting on information and it happenstance.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We love weirdly specific crimes, you know, shout out to
Speaker 4: stamp fraud, but this is this one is so specific
Speaker 4: and strange that I think we couldn't figure out initially
Speaker 4: if it is illegal, So Anonymous continues, I knew this
Speaker 4: was totally immoral, if not illegal, so I did not
Speaker 4: cast my vote. I contacted my agency to complain, and
Speaker 4: they were not interested at all. Their cut from the
Speaker 4: two hundred extras that day mattered more than what we
Speaker 4: had actually been sent to do.
Speaker 3: Uh checks out. I guess it does.
Speaker 5: But it's weird that you that a talent agency would
Speaker 5: allow themselves to be mixed up in something like this.
Speaker 4: But I guess that it pays. Yeah, guy, diversify, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a gig. A gig is a gig, right, especially
Speaker 4: if you're aspiring in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 5: And do you see what I mean about the crisis
Speaker 5: actors thing too? Doesn't it feel aligned in a way.
Speaker 4: It feels similar to the crisis actor theory for sure,
Speaker 4: or the idea that you are hiring someone on a
Speaker 4: short term basis to appear as though they are someone else,
Speaker 4: and crisis actors. It's very controversial conspiracy theory. It hasn't
Speaker 4: been proven. But that's that's wrapped up. It's spart and
Speaker 4: parcel of the Alex allegations about Sandy Hook. Anyway, so
Speaker 4: Anonymous says, I know it made the media at the time.
Speaker 4: I'm having a hard time finding anything about it now.
Speaker 4: Pretty shady way of swinging the outcome of AGM huh
Speaker 4: or as we also say, dodgy Anonymous, we say dodgy too.
Speaker 4: I sure don't we all say dodgy anyway? So thank
Speaker 4: you for the show. It means a lot. And then
Speaker 4: I wrote back to Anonymous and wanted to get more information,
Speaker 4: and Anonymous revealed the name. The name of the company
Speaker 4: is Premium Income Fund. It is like, you know, the
Speaker 4: mentioned super super annuation that's kind of like a that's
Speaker 4: like a pension retirement plan thing, and Premium Income Fund
Speaker 4: is apparently tied up to retirement savings for a lot
Speaker 4: of older people in that country.
Speaker 2: So it's like a shareholder meeting of some sort. Like
Speaker 2: is that the thing like where the people who are
Speaker 2: voting are supposed to be a part? Like do you
Speaker 2: have to be a member or something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very strange. You don't have all the details yet,
Speaker 4: but that's what it sounds like. And it also sounds
Speaker 4: like someone whomever contacted the Talent agency wanted the vote
Speaker 4: to go a certain way. And if those other people
Speaker 4: that Anonymous saw who were actual shareholders, if they were
Speaker 4: very distressed, then it sounds like it's a controversial vote.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that has to be illegal.
Speaker 4: Do we have any Australian lawyers or barristers in the
Speaker 4: crowd if so, conspiracydiheartradio dot com, you know three to
Speaker 4: three STDWYTK. We would love to know more about this.
Speaker 4: So there was a huge civil action afterwards. Ten thousand retirees,
Speaker 4: per Anonymous, because we talked back and forth about this,
Speaker 4: were in her words, screwed out of their life savings.
Speaker 4: And Anonymous just again needs to stay anonymous. But this
Speaker 4: brought up so many questions for me, and I think
Speaker 4: for all of us. How often does stuff like this happen?
Speaker 4: Does that could have happened in the US? Did you
Speaker 4: rig a shareholder vote? It makes me think of succession,
Speaker 4: of course.
Speaker 5: I mean if it could, Yes, it could happen and
Speaker 5: likely has happened, especially considering how relatively straightforward a process
Speaker 5: this was.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, that's wild.
Speaker 4: That's the surprising thing, you know that it's the straightforwardness
Speaker 4: of it all. So it's terrible that it sounds like
Speaker 4: it's being predatory against these retirees. And on a personal level,
Speaker 4: I think we can all find that repugnant. But I
Speaker 4: would love to hear more about this. Have you guys
Speaker 4: ever heard of something like this happening before? Like I
Speaker 4: hear it, it makes sense but I've never thought someone.
Speaker 4: I'd never thought of someone doing that.
Speaker 2: It seems like if you're voting, you know, in a
Speaker 2: shareholder meeting or something like that. I'm sure we've all
Speaker 2: been shareholders at some point in our careers, just through
Speaker 2: like Discovery, we used to. They used to send out
Speaker 2: some weird stuff with that. Back when we like got
Speaker 2: Discovery stuff.
Speaker 4: I guess we're like, what is vesting? Yeah, spoiler, it's
Speaker 4: not a real vest Well.
Speaker 2: We're we're pretty young folks back then. I didn't know
Speaker 2: anything about any of this stuff. And we would get
Speaker 2: in the mail like a ballot basically that you would
Speaker 2: vote on stuff that's up for as a shareholder basically.
Speaker 2: And I do wonder if this thing this premium income fund,
Speaker 2: that's what is called premium income fund?
Speaker 4: Income fund? And what do we say about innocuous names.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking through trying to find exactly what it
Speaker 2: is and if there was a vote that you could check,
Speaker 2: like meeting that had minutes or results of something, and
Speaker 2: I'm having a really hard time just in the moment.
Speaker 4: But same we got a PDF that does have more information.
Speaker 4: But again, in the interest of anonymity, we don't want
Speaker 4: to share too much of that on air. But we
Speaker 4: also you know, now that I'm thinking through it, maybe
Speaker 4: it's just immoral. Maybe it's not technically illegal because they
Speaker 4: do own the shares when they vote. Yeah, but someone
Speaker 4: filled out their ballot already for them.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, we are going to follow up with
Speaker 4: this in the future. We want to learn more about it.
Speaker 4: We want to hear from you folks if you have
Speaker 4: encountered similar strange shenanigans. And before we end, wanted to
Speaker 4: do another segment that we've been calling letters from home.
Speaker 4: We got a pretty thought provoking message over on ye
Speaker 4: old internets, So Doug m writes to us via Instagram,
Speaker 4: hit me up on Instagram and said, listening to the
Speaker 4: strange news on Frank and Sheet being used for hunting
Speaker 4: the future seems to be cloning humans for use in
Speaker 4: government training, police, super weather fun time, but what would
Speaker 4: be the legal standing for murdering a clone? That's going
Speaker 4: to keep me busy today. Clone rights and then also
Speaker 4: great episode And as soon as I read this, I
Speaker 4: thought we would love this discussion on air.
Speaker 3: Clone rights.
Speaker 4: Do you guys think clones will be on the way
Speaker 4: like manufactured cannon fodder for war.
Speaker 3: That's gross. Yeah, of course, if they can do it,
Speaker 3: they'll probably try.
Speaker 5: But I mean we were talking about this off Mike briefly,
Speaker 5: and I just think there have to be that conversation
Speaker 5: has to happen, could there, you know? I mean for
Speaker 5: all tents and purposes, a clone is it's it's a person.
Speaker 5: It's not a robot, it's not an AI. It's flesh
Speaker 5: and blood and presumably something that resembling the soul.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be used for can of fodder
Speaker 2: and war. I think the robots, the machines are going to.
Speaker 4: Be that a little more efficient.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: It's going to be that organ harvesting and all that
Speaker 2: other stuff with If clones become a thing, it's a
Speaker 2: personal clone, and it's just got your stuff in it.
Speaker 5: Okay, And you think we can just use them, we
Speaker 5: can just harvest their organs and have them as like
Speaker 5: blood boys.
Speaker 3: You know, is that you really where's the line?
Speaker 4: Do you just do grow? Do you grow individual organs
Speaker 4: in some kind of suspension? Do you grow a full
Speaker 4: body but without a brain just to despair?
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And that that does get pretty gory pretty quickly. I
Speaker 4: wonder if look right now. One of the main stumbling
Speaker 4: blocks in the science behind human cloning is that there
Speaker 4: are some hard ethical constraints about what you can and
Speaker 4: can't clone, how long you can allow a human clone
Speaker 4: to exists. I feel like clones will be on the way, though,
Speaker 4: because the science is possible. I just don't know what
Speaker 4: they'll be used for.
Speaker 3: Have either of you guys seen Poor Things the film?
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch it, but I've not seen
Speaker 2: it yet.
Speaker 5: It's really really great, first of all, and it's not
Speaker 5: nearly as like raunchy and controversial as people seem to
Speaker 5: be making it out. I mean, it's got some, you know,
Speaker 5: titillating stuff, but it really is, to me a very
Speaker 5: nice movie. It has a kindness to it in a way.
Speaker 5: But it's of course the classic Frankenstein's story where you
Speaker 5: create a thing and then realize that it also learns
Speaker 5: and has feelings and changes, and you can't just treat
Speaker 5: it like a like a pet, or even worse, like
Speaker 5: a like a slave, or like something without agency. And
Speaker 5: this movie kind of takes a feminist approach to that concept,
Speaker 5: and I think it does it beautifully. But that's the thing,
Speaker 5: man like Ben you mentioned without a brain. Oh even
Speaker 5: just the saying that just sounds wrong, doesn't it?
Speaker 4: Like wow, like remove the cortex the cerebe element.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's like giving somebody a lobotomy in
Speaker 5: a sanitarium to prelostomy, a pre lobotomy.
Speaker 4: It's also it reminds me there was a recent episode
Speaker 4: or an episode from a recent season of Rick and
Speaker 4: Morty which is all about the tasty spaghetti sauce.
Speaker 3: You can't see that one, No, I don't know that one.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, light spoilers ahead, folks, or big spoilers ahead,
Speaker 4: three to one spoilers. So in this one episode of
Speaker 4: Rick m Mordy, the family is having their weekly like
Speaker 4: family dinner time, and everybody loves Grandpa Rick's spaghetti. It's
Speaker 4: like a secret family recipe that he talks about their
Speaker 4: nuts for it. It's called that's a morte. And what
Speaker 4: they learn is that this spaghetti comes from the death
Speaker 4: of aliens, like aliens on this other planet. When they die,
Speaker 4: their guts are the spaghetti.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and the sauce.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, guys with light spoilers soil and green it's people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Gary oldman the whole time.
Speaker 2: We got a review on Apple Bodcasts. It says, these
Speaker 2: guys are constantly spoiling stuff I haven't finished yet.
Speaker 4: Okay, well then shall we proceed?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Indeed, so the reason I bring this up, then all
Speaker 4: sorts of hygiencs happens. Rick and Morty has these fantastic writers,
Speaker 4: these incredible concepts, and in there they try the people
Speaker 4: who are the origin point of the spaghetti. Their civilization
Speaker 4: institute's an economy of scale, and they say, hey, how
Speaker 4: can we ethically reconcile the fact that the best spaghetti
Speaker 4: in the universe has to come from these people dying?
Speaker 4: And then they manufacture like clone things, and Grandpa Rick says,
Speaker 4: all right, let's just make torsos. Get rid of the
Speaker 4: human or the thinking, the consciousness problem altogether. And they say, okay,
Speaker 4: we make torsos. I forgot the big thing in this episode.
Speaker 4: They only turn into amazing spaghetti if they kill themselves,
Speaker 4: if they commit suicide. Yeah, right, and so they end
Speaker 4: up that makes it the best I guess so, And
Speaker 4: otherwise they just die like a regular life form. So
Speaker 4: they get to a point where they build out just torsos.
Speaker 4: But because the torsos have to commit suicide. They give
Speaker 4: them one arm and there's and they just the torsos
Speaker 4: use that one arm to become spaghetti.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 4: God, is that where cloning is going? We need to
Speaker 4: with Dan Harmon on this, like what's going on there?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: I think it's fascinating, but I also think it's I
Speaker 4: think cloning is on the way, It is inevitable, and
Speaker 4: civilization is not prepared.
Speaker 5: I guess I always just think this is probably also
Speaker 5: the thing I've seen Rick and Morty, but I've certainly
Speaker 5: seen another cartoons, maybe Family Guy, where you've got like
Speaker 5: the clone gone wrong and it's just like kill me,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's ghastly stuff if not treated with
Speaker 5: the utmost of respect and morality, which I don't know
Speaker 5: how you even do that properly. I think I like
Speaker 5: the idea of growing the organs individually in a lab,
Speaker 5: but maybe didn't they have a thing where they could grow,
Speaker 5: like the ear on the back of a mouse or
Speaker 5: something that's interesting. I mean, I know, I'm sure there's
Speaker 5: people out there that are like, no, don't kill the
Speaker 5: poor mouse, but there's got to be ways of doing that.
Speaker 5: The really you know, life changing parts of this without
Speaker 5: having to sacrifice our humanity and becomes some sort of
Speaker 5: like mad gods.
Speaker 4: And you know what I like about this episode is
Speaker 4: it packs in so many things, right, like the the
Speaker 4: ethics of factory livestock and eating meat, you know, the
Speaker 4: problem of cloning, the problem of the nature of existence.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's a wild ride, and I hope it
Speaker 4: stays science fiction for a while. But like with all
Speaker 4: good science fiction, how long is it before some part
Speaker 4: of that becomes science fact? And I don't know, if
Speaker 4: you guys had a chance to clone yourselves, would.
Speaker 3: You do it? I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, if it was, like, you know, I would
Speaker 5: think of this in terms of like save the life
Speaker 5: of my child kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I see, Yeah, so it'd have to be very high
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But it's also the kind of technologies of course going
Speaker 5: to only be available to the mega mega privileged, in
Speaker 5: mega mega rich.
Speaker 4: Yeah. In the beginning, there's also this other idea. I
Speaker 4: think this is weirdly possib will hear me out, guys,
Speaker 4: you're a business tycoon, right, You're a warm buffet level financier,
Speaker 4: or you know, you're just a very powerful business person,
Speaker 4: and you are going to die. You have a terminal condition.
Speaker 3: You know it.
Speaker 4: It's inevitable. You can't save your own life. However, you
Speaker 4: can continue your state and your companies and your corporations
Speaker 4: if you clone yourself and sign over the legal rights
Speaker 4: to your clone. So then just version one of you
Speaker 4: dies and then the other guy just sales right along,
Speaker 4: creating a potentially never ending cycle of power lineage.
Speaker 5: Dude, have you guys seen Infinity Pool, the Brandon Cronenberg film.
Speaker 3: I think I have no you'd remembered about it. That's
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Speaking to the one dissenting voice on Apple podcasts. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to spoil it, but there is. It's basically
Speaker 5: a film where the super rich are able to buy
Speaker 5: a get out of jail free card for committing horrible crimes.
Speaker 5: Oh that's what I have, Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah buy Basically,
Speaker 5: through cloning, they're able to create so okay and whatever.
Speaker 5: This is a sports there's a million things, other things
Speaker 5: that happen, and this is the trailer. They they are
Speaker 5: able to create a clone that then is executed on
Speaker 5: their behalf. And because of this, let there's a ritual
Speaker 5: aspect to it. They have to watch it happen. But
Speaker 5: it really does beg the question of like, what would
Speaker 5: people do with if they never had to be held
Speaker 5: accountable for their actions? And the clone part of it
Speaker 5: is like it it feels it, it knows what's it
Speaker 5: doesn't know what's happening because it's memory.
Speaker 3: It only starts at the moment of its birth.
Speaker 5: But it's like you're it's being horrifically executed on behalf
Speaker 5: of its clone master.
Speaker 4: And even Star Wars hits on this right with the
Speaker 4: Clone Wars. Absolutely people have been thinking about this for
Speaker 4: a long time. There is a There is a fantastic
Speaker 4: Orson Scott card short story, and I disagree fundamentally with
Speaker 4: Card in his personal life and his beliefs, but the
Speaker 4: story itself is really good. That is all about the
Speaker 4: nature of attempting redemption physiologically, spiritually, financially through cloning. Spoiler,
Speaker 4: it's like an O Henry story. It doesn't it has
Speaker 4: a twist ours And this is this is strange because
Speaker 4: I think also other versions of cloning are coming to
Speaker 4: the fore before the rollout of human clones in the
Speaker 4: physical sense will have the rollout of cloned voices and appearances.
Speaker 4: That's part of why I think it's inevitable, because it's
Speaker 4: already happening in the world of entertainment. I think there
Speaker 4: are a couple big companies post actor strike who who
Speaker 4: will require extras and people getting started in Hollywood to
Speaker 4: sign away the rights to their appearance in the background
Speaker 4: of things like their.
Speaker 3: Body gets mapped.
Speaker 4: Sure, and they get a f fee once and then
Speaker 4: your likeness can be used in any movie owned by
Speaker 4: that company.
Speaker 5: Great New Black Mirror episode in the most recent season
Speaker 5: then handles that whole concept brilliantly as they usually do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so we want to hear your thoughts about this, folks.
Speaker 4: We want to hear what you think the world should
Speaker 4: keep in mind if we do arrive at an age
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