1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: my name is. 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: No, they call me Ben. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Paul, Mission 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: Control Decads. Most importantly, you are here. That makes this 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: the stuff they don't want you to know, And fellow 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 4: conspiracy realists, you may be part of tonight's program. That's right, 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: it's time for listener mail. We are going to get 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: some updates from our fellow conspiracy realist about drugs, about HVAC, 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: and we want to give a shout out to brock 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: were hitping us to the return of the humble Farmer? Right, Yes, yeah, 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: so thank you for keeping us keeping a finger on 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: the pulse of that one. We're going to talk about 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: a very disturbing story out of Australia, and then we're 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: gonna you know, we got some we got some stuff 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: we have to get off our collective chest about clones. 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: But before we do any of that, we have been, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: like so many other people, tracing this Strange Story about 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: Cape Middleton. 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 5: The royal drama. Yes, we've become a couple of trio 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: of royal watchers, haven't we been? 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: Really? 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 5: It's interesting though there you know, I'm with you, Matt 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: when we talked about it on Strange News a couple 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: of weeks ago. Who cares like there is some who 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: cares in us to it, like, okay, so you know 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: the Prince of Wales has a mistress, so surprise, surprise. 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: I just I do have to say one thing though, Nolans, 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: we're getting in. I want to make a point that 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: I didn't make when we're talking about this previously. Obviously, 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: I am not a monarchist the opposite end spectrum any 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: of us. Yeah, I don't think we are. But I 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: do have to say something that didn't bring up earlier. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: One important thing for us to remember is that people 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: in the monarchy, are in the aristocracy, are humans like 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: anybody else, and they did not choose to be in 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: their position, you know what I mean. 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Into it, that's true. 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: The ones that married into it chose it a little bit, 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: that's true. 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, before you really jump into I don't I 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: don't think anybody caught the joke, and I don't think 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: I explained myself when we were talking about this last time, 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: I said, my favorite Royal Watcher. The only person I 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: pay attention to is Byron Denniston. 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I caught that either. 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: That's a character from Comedy Bang Bang, and I was 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: trying to be silly because it's a really great character 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: like Lady Amilia Spencer and the Grizz. 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: Of course, that's a deep cut, bro. 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 5: I listened to that show and I've seen most of 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: the series, but not aware of that one. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, my bad, It's okay, though, Man, you 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: explained it now. 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna seek those episodes out. But you know, we 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: talked about. 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: This on Strange News a few weeks ago, and then 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 5: Ben and I Matt was we had some family obligations, 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: but Ben and I went to New York and we're 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: lucky enough to be on the podcast Sauce on the 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: Side with our pal Gandhi from the Elvis Duran Morning 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: Show and her producer Diamond had some real takes, you know, 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: on this stuff and was all over it, and it 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: gave me a moment to kind of realize that maybe 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: I had I don't know, been a little easy on 70 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 5: the royal family, perhaps in the segment where I was 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: sort of like, there's nothing going on at all, everything's 72 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: above boards, just having a surgery and photoshopping her own 73 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: family photos. 74 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird that she would do that, a B. 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 5: That this statement would come out signed C, which apparently 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: is the way she signs her name, by the way, 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: But at the time I didn't realize that. 78 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: It seemed a little odd kind of doubt that. 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: Many of the royals are doing their own twitters or 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: their own exes. But then again, you know, there is 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: a certain expectation that what you see on those kind 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: of platforms, there's certainly a possibility that it is coming 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: directly from the source. We certainly know that's the case 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: with you know, Donald Trump, for example, and others that 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 5: clearly are tweeting themselves because you couldn't pay people to 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: write stuff this bad and self incriminating. But my main 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: thing was, yeah, it's a little weird that she's been 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 5: out of the public eye for so long, and it 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 5: was a little weird that they posted this picture because 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 5: of course it was going to be taken as sort 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 5: of a proof of life kind of situation, and the 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 5: fact that it was so weirdly and awkwardly doctored really 93 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: called into question the whole thing. And I will stand 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: by my whole thing about all of this, which is 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: that the pr Firm or whatever it's handling the Royal 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 5: families public affairs not doing a great job. Because you know, guys, 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 5: we say it all the time. If there's a question 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: and you just introduce more questions or introduce more vagueness, 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna have a conspiracy feeding frenzy on 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: your hands, right, And that's what we've got here. 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 4: Especially with the royal family, right, which is a main 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: character in so many conspiracies. And then this also, this 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: kind of speculation is exacerbated in the age of social media, 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: right because now people are able to share any kind 105 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: of theory, whether or not it's based on fact or 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: some kind of research, and then other people will go 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: with it because it's the more interesting story. 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: I remain. 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: I still crack up about the the folk who were 110 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 4: convinced for a while that Cape Middleton was out of 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: the public eye because she got a Brazilian butt lift, 112 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: which we mentioned previously. But I just thought that was 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: so silly. I tuned into Sauce on the side because Diamond, 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: I think had some of the best examinations of this right. 115 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: She thought through it pretty in depth. 116 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And we have another listener who's been thinking about 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: this as well. This is in fact listener Mail and 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: I haven't mentioned one of our beloved listeners, but we 119 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: got a note from the Mitch Doctor, which is fun. 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: Just a quick theory. Hey guys, here's a theory on 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 5: k Middleton. I can't take credit for sparking this idea, 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: but it seems to fit. Maybe she's an organ donor 123 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: for King Charles, who is also in the hospital. A 124 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: kidney donation seems more likely than some of the stuff 125 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 5: currently on the internet. Tata for now, the Mitch Doctor. 126 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: I can only hope and assume that if they're saying 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: TATA for now, that they are in fact British citizens 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: or maybe even royalty. Who knows, but thank you the 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: Mitch Doctor. I think that's very interesting. In preparing for 130 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: this segment, I did find a really cool article from 131 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: The Intelligencer, which is I believe a offshoot of New 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: York Magazine with it. This came out yesterday, as we 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: record this on March twenty second, with a timeline up 134 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: to now of all of the k Middleton brew haha. 135 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: And Ben, you mentioned the Brazilian butt lift thing, I think, 136 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: and we've heard people say that maybe it was a 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 5: gastric bypass procedure and all of that simply from a 138 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: statement from Kensington Palace. And now it's saying that her 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: Royal Highness, the Princess of Wales was admitted to hospital 140 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: yesterday for planned abdominal surgery, okay, And that came out 141 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 5: on January seventeenth of twenty twenty four, and since that time. 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: There hasn't that. 143 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 5: That's kind of, you know, when the speculation started to 144 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: thrive because she hadn't really made any public appearances reasonably 145 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: close to that date. And then up until now except 146 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: for the weird photoshopped image which we talked about and 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: a video that came out, TMZ published, well it was 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: a photo, I believe. TMZ published a paparazzi photo on 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: March the fourth of Kate in a car with her 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: mother near Windsor Castle. And then there was also an 151 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: individual that's yes, sorry here it is. The Sun reported 152 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: that Kate had been spotted shopping with William at Windsor 153 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: Farm Shop, and I believe a video was taken, and 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: there's even an article where the person took the video 155 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: is quoted and kind of trying their best to de 156 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 5: month these theories. But people have been trying to run 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 5: this video through like AI algorithms to do facial matching stuff, 158 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: because I do have to say, on an initial glance. 159 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: She looks a little different. 160 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: I could see where people are coming from and looking 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 5: at this image in this video and saying, ah, that 162 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: doesn't quite look like my Kate. And so there are 163 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: people that are speculated that is not her, that she's 164 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: been replaced. But then, like I said, the person the 165 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: shopper who filmed this video or what are they now 166 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: going to question if I'm a real person as well. 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: That I put a fake Kate there? It is ridiculous. 168 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 5: So I do kind of still stand by the fact 169 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: that a lot of this stuff is just you know, 170 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: like armchair sleuths. And what was the word we used 171 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: on the segment. I believe it was something like recreational speculators, 172 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 5: something along those lines. But what do you think, guys 173 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: of the Mitch Doctor's theory? Well, first of all, I'm 174 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: sorry I been. I want to point out too that 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 5: the Diamond, the producer, did say, I think this might 176 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: be a big way of a shifting focus off of 177 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: King Charles's illness. But what do you guys think about 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: this idea that Kate is a donor. She's not exactly 179 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 5: a direct family so I don't see how that would 180 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 5: how she would be a uniquely suitable candidate. 181 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: Honestly, the organ donation thing is interesting from a story 182 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: construction kind of perspective, But in terms of real life, 183 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: would it not be more plausible that they would get 184 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: a donor who is the perfect match, Like I think 185 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: they would prioritize the safety of the donation process over 186 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: the attachment of the family. 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: Well, and wouldn't that be something to celebrate you're saving 188 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: the King's life or something, you know, by donating part 189 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: of your body. 190 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And also there a couple things at play. You 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: don't want to have, well, you don't want to have 193 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 4: any death, but for a monarchy to lose the monarch 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: twice in quick succession, it's not a good look. So 195 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: maybe this is distraction, Maybe this is Diamond also pointed 196 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: out the possibility that there was a serious illness on 197 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: Middleton's side. 198 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, Matt though on Yeah, 199 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: an organ donation would be that'd be a positive press story. 200 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: Why would you hide that? 201 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 5: If you were like, say, you know, that seems like 202 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: something that you would look the bravery of this woman, 203 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: you know, you would want to promote that. 204 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: The only way you would The only reason I could 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: imagine that you would want to hide something like that, 206 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: which is a heroic thing to do, is because it 207 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: might be indicative of just how how far the king's 208 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: condition is deteriorated. So maybe that's what they're trying to 209 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: keep under wraps if that theory is true. 210 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: And you, guys, I think I asked this last time 211 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 5: we were talking about this, but what is the true 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 5: like to what end? What is the true benefit of 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 5: being so you know, sneaky around the health of a 214 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: public figure like that? Is it because it can affect 215 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: deals and even markets and stuff? Is that you just 216 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: want to keep that stuff under your control and as 217 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 5: long as humanly possible, and don't want people to know 218 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 5: what's really going on until the death actually occurs. 219 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: That's part of it. I mean, there is state security 220 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: wrapped up in this right, so stability of the nation, 221 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: the appearance of stability is a hugely important factor. So 222 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: I imagine that's in the calculation somewhere. But really we don't 223 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: have enough information to say what's happening definitively. And I'm 224 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: sure that there are a ton of journalists in the 225 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: United Kingdom who are doing their best like social engineering, 226 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 4: cold calling, trying to get information out of the monarchy 227 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: and their staff. That may actually be the way that 228 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: we learn what's happening. 229 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 230 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 5: I guess I just don't think, you know, it's not 231 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: the same as a president being sick to me, you know, 232 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: because they're just so toothless, the royal family. They're just ceremonial. 233 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: They have this lavish lifestyle that's largely to maintain this 234 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 5: continuity of sort of history and tradition, but they don't 235 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 5: really do anything so like what would what would be 236 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: politically it's Is it just because the British people are 237 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: so obsessed with them and there's such a reverence for them, 238 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 5: or maybe I just don't get it because I'm not, 239 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: you know, from there. 240 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's not for us. Every fair enoughty 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: for everybody. But but yeah, you do raise a point 242 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: the monarchy as tremendous real estate holdings, so that's that's 243 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: a big deal. They're also a huge cultural and economic 244 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: touchstone for the United Kingdom, like the UK government makes 245 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: a ton of money off royalty, off the concept of it. 246 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: Think about all the people who travel around the world 247 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: see London and to go check out that stuff. So 248 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: they do play an economic role, a big one in 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: that sense. 250 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: We were talking about that, I believe with somebody we 251 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 5: were hanging out with the New York Just the tourism 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 5: aspect of it is not something to be completely ignored, 253 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: that's true. I don't know, Matt, You've been quiet on 254 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: this one, any thoughts. I know this isn't your bag exactly, 255 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 5: but it's not mine either. I just I mainly when 256 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 5: we talked about it last time, my main interest was 257 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: in just how the bruja around the photo and just 258 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: realizing these standards that like you know, organizations like AP have, 259 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 5: and how it was just kind of missed and just 260 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 5: this whole distinction between like is this photo entertainment or 261 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: is this news? 262 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: And how is it taken? 263 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: And just how quickly these things can sort of, you know, 264 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: balloon out of control. But uh, you got any closing 265 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: thoughts for us on this one, Matt before we take 266 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: a break. 267 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: Ah, Still, I don't care. 268 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: Your Prince Charles as good as a good grumble, a 269 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: very kingly grumble. 270 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I hope everybody's okay. 271 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: See you, I see you. I hope they're happy. I 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: think they're happy. They don't seem very happy on the crown. 273 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's happy all the time. 274 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Fair enough. 275 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: Well, thanks to the Mitch Doctor for that theory. I 276 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 5: certainly think that it could be plausible, but I don't 277 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: see why that, of all things, they would cover up. 278 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: We guys agree to know more. 279 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's all right. 280 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with 281 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: some more messages from you. 282 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: We've returned and we are going to the emails, guys 283 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: to get some updates on the last two weeks of 284 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: strange news. We've got one coming in. Let's get started 285 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: with an email from Brett, who wrote to us on 286 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: March eleventh with regards to a bit of a smuggling story. 287 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: We talked about the first person that was ever charged 288 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: with smuggling greenhouse gases into the United States from Mexico, 289 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: and Brett is coming to us with quite a bit 290 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: of experience in the HVAC world. Let's see what he 291 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: has to say. Brett says, I wanted to give you 292 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: some insight on the latest strange news about the greenhouse 293 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: gas smuggling. I'm an HVAC slash R that's heat ventilation, 294 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: air conditioning refrigeration technician in New York. You're right that 295 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: you do need a license to purchase refrigerants, a license 296 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: granted by the EPA. That's kind of cool. You have 297 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: to take tests and pass to get one of those things. 298 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: The free on known as R twenty two, that's the 299 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: substance that actually is a refrigerant, causes your refrigerator and 300 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: your air conditioner to create cold air. Got to have 301 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: this stuff run the air through it makes it cold. 302 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: This free on, known as R twenty two, has been 303 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: used for decades, and in twenty twenty four there's still 304 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: equipment that uses it. Last summer, one twenty five pound 305 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: bottle of R twenty two cost one thousand, seven hundred 306 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. That's a ton of money, guys. Twenty 307 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: five pounds seventeen hundred bucks. That's with vendors limiting supply 308 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: per EPA regulations. We'll talk about it, but remember this 309 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: R twenty two refrigerant free on is a controlled substance 310 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: at this point, a highly controlled substance. Even though, oh, 311 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: it's just a gas, right, it's free on, it's a 312 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: form of gas. 313 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: Right. 314 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: This is pertaining to the black market sale of the stuff, 315 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: I'm not or the availability of it on Like was 316 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 5: it Facebook marketplace? 317 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: Right? Yes? 318 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: Why it's so tightly controlled? Why this person got in 319 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: trouble for bringing something like this free on refrigerant greenhouse 320 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: gas into the US to sell? So, Brett continues, lots 321 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: of older techs hate using the replacement of this free 322 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: on the replacement of R twenty two because it's not 323 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: as good and sometimes causes more issues from size of 324 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: equipment to how much cooling it will produce. So, like, 325 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: how large the equipment is that uses the R twenty two, right, 326 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: I think that's what he's saying. Most times having to 327 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: buy newer equipment to replace the old system, whether it's 328 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: still in working condition. Some systems are only two to 329 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: five pounds, so they only require two to five pounds 330 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: of this stuff for homes, but mark up for labor 331 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: and use of it. I think what he's saying here, 332 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: with the huge cost of that greenhouse gas, you're only 333 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: going to be using two to five pounds sap. Do 334 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: you think that's what Brett's. 335 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: Saying here, guys, that's kind of what I write. 336 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So Brett says it's cheaper to buy a brand 337 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: new AC because most older techs and retired texts still 338 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: have tanks of this good R twenty two greenhouse gas 339 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: refrigerant they could use. And again, for this alone, I'm 340 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: used to this being the norm, as it's the way 341 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: of the job, but it does get hard telling those 342 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: older generations who are retired with a fixed income that 343 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: it's going to cost somewhere between three thousand to five 344 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars if not a ton more guys to replace 345 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: their old HVA systems that used the R twenty two 346 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: and Brett signs off saying thanks for the show. So, guys, 347 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: it just makes a lot of sense, especially hearing from 348 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: somebody like this that this type of greenhouse gas that's 349 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: used as a refrigerant, it's potentially dangerous. Right according to 350 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: the regulators who have chosen to put regulations on this stuff. 351 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: But also it's crazy, crazy expensive. I had no idea 352 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: how expensive it was, but I call very vividly at 353 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: my old house having to get more free on pumped 354 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: into my really old air conditioning system, and it was 355 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: I think it was three hundred and fifty dollars for 356 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: a time, basically a shot of this stuff to refill 357 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: my system. 358 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: Isn't that stuff that people actually steal out of air 359 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: conditionings because it. 360 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: Is so valuable. 361 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I have no idea how you would do that. 362 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 2: I've never looked into it. 363 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 5: But I also think it's also something that people like, 364 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 5: certain people like to huff. I have heard tales of 365 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 5: people going to apartment complexes and like stealing free on 366 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 5: out of those air conditioning window units. 367 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: It's all a price point thing, right. As soon as 368 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: the price or potential for profit reaches a certain threshold, 369 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: then you know, anything can be stolen. Shot, catalytic converters 370 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: and copper. Yeah, And there's also it's interesting because, first, 371 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: thank you so much for the letter here, Brett. It's 372 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: interesting because when I was looking into the context of this, 373 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: the refrigerant smuggling, I didn't know. It's been a thing 374 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: since the nineteen nineties, and it happened because of the 375 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: regulations that came about to close that hole in the 376 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: ozone layer. Remember when that was a big deal for everybody. 377 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: So by fixing this one problem, which is a big 378 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: problem society, the cobra thing, the cobra effects. Yeah, the 379 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: cobra effect. 380 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: You can go to a couple of places online. The 381 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: one I found that immediately popped up just when you 382 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: google R twenty two, which is called h hydro chlorofluorocarbon 383 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: twenty two or HCFC twenty two. The replacements are weird. 384 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: They have all kinds of names like R four one A, 385 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: R one four A, are four oh seven C, and 386 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: are four oh seven A. They are just refrigerants, but 387 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: they don't have, at least according to the EPA, the 388 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: same ozone depleting effects, which is. 389 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: Why they're being used. 390 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: But again, as Brett is saying, they maybe don't cool 391 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: as effectively and they are going to cost you an 392 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: arm in a lake. I don't have much else to 393 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: say on that. Guys, just appreciate Brett calling in with 394 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: personal experience like that. 395 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Brett. 396 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Then let's jump to another message we received from Always 397 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: Something in Philadelphia. Love that, Love that, and Always Something 398 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: is responding to the strange news where we talked about 399 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: some people in Atlanta who are being targeted and attacked 400 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: in local bars here in a place called Buckhead. 401 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 4: Drugged and abducted. 402 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, and tens of thousands of dollars coming 403 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: out of their bank accounts. So Always Something says, hither gents, 404 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: I've been a sporadic listener for nearly ten years. We 405 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: need to up your listening. Always Something needs to be 406 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: a little more than sporadic. 407 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Just kidding. 408 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening at all. And Always Something has 409 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: been a sporadic listener recently since I've had a job 410 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: where I can have headphones on. That's awesome, and I've 411 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: been listening a lot more regularly. Oh fantastic, see you 412 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: already are Yesterday I heard you just talk about the 413 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: guys who had tens of thousands of dollars stolen after 414 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 2: being drugged at bars in Atlanta. I'd be remiss if 415 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: I didn't bring up the story of heart Throb Philadelphia's weatherman, 416 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: John Belaris or Belaris. 417 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: I think it's Belaris. 418 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: I loved reading this, and by the way, you're an 419 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: awesome writer too. 420 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: So John Belaris, whose career was basically ruined because of 421 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: a similar situation about fifteen years ago. Interesting John was 422 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: a beloved weatherman and an A list local celebrity in 423 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: Philly with a bit of a wild streak, known for 424 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: things like being friends with controversial baseball player Lenny Dickstra 425 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: or Dikestra. I guess I don't know this person, but 426 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: according to the Internet, not great things. 427 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Not great things. 428 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, sexual assault accusations. In twenty ten, there was this 429 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 4: allegation that he paid an escort and adult entertainment actor 430 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 4: with a bad check that bounced. He would go on 431 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: to be arrested on multiple misdemeanor and felony counts of 432 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: things like identity theft, possession of cocaine and ecstasy, grand theft, 433 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 4: auto of the crime not the video game got you? 434 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, YOI don't pay for unscrupulous things with bad checks. Gosh, 435 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: come on, Lenny, Okay. So John was partying in Miami 436 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 2: and met some beautiful Eastern European women, at least according 437 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: to the story, then blacked out and woke up to 438 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: have tens of thousands of dollars missing from his accounts. 439 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: He went public and he got help from the FBI, 440 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: but he ended up losing his job and basically got 441 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: blackballed because of the incident. If I remember correctly, this 442 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: is always something saying that there was some victim blaming 443 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: about him, tempted by the chance of a threesome, and 444 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: speculation that he was trying to be an actual quote, 445 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: John not just named John and was ripped off by 446 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: the ladies. He was solictening, which resulted in his being fired. 447 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: He then made national headlines after being interviewed about it 448 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: on twenty twenty also in Playboy and by Howard Stern. 449 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: And now apparently he's a realtor in Philly and still 450 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: has local notoriety. Guys, I had never heard of this 451 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: person before at all. John Belaris just an interesting piece 452 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: of information that none of us had before. This always something, 453 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: so thank you. But guess what, here's where things get crazy. 454 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: You did not mention devil's breath, the substance it's believed 455 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: that John was drugged with. It comes from a South 456 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: American species of Datura dat u r a, which is 457 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: a genus of night blooming plants known for their mystical 458 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: and intense psychotropic properties, used in various indigenous cultures, medicines, 459 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: and rituals, as well as in witchcraft. 460 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 5: Bro is this what the guy in the car was 461 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: being fed? He didn't know what it was. It had 462 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 5: a hard time describing it. It wasn't a pill, remember that. 463 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 5: I know, we don't know what the substance was. There's 464 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: a great Vice documentary about this. The substance always something 465 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: is describing here and from that documentary what we were 466 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: talking about this briefly off air. From what I remember 467 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: about that, the method of application was to blow it 468 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 5: as a duster or and aerosol into the person's face. 469 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 5: But that may that just maybe one possible method of deployment. 470 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming it's also consumed in one way or 471 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: another in some of the other rituals right when it's 472 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: more ritualized. So who knows exactly. I don't know exactly 473 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: how it works. I remember a two thousand and seven 474 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: piece from Vice, and then I think it was around 475 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: the time we started our YouTube channel that Vice put 476 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: that documentary out of probably twenty fourteen something like that. 477 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 2: We've known about that for quite a while. We just 478 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: didn't quite feel like this drug to us. But it's 479 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: interesting always something to bring it up and as a possibility, right, 480 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: because there is a dissociative effect with that drug where 481 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: people seem to be let's say, pliable in their actions, 482 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: almost like they're not really there. They'll go along with things, 483 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: they're just agreeing to everything that if someone was in 484 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: the position of like a captor, they might just agree 485 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: with stuff like, hey, let's go to this bank account. 486 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I guess that's what we're doing. Very weird 487 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 2: at least that's the case of Devil's Breath and how 488 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: it's been described, at least by Vice. That's really the 489 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: only thing I've seen on it. Let's go back to 490 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: the email. Here in the US, the most well known 491 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: is Jimson weed, which is associated with stories of seventeenth 492 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: century colonists ingesting it and going crazy. I don't know 493 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: anything about jimsonweed, jims n That's another interesting thing to 494 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: look up. It's feeling like there's another episode where we 495 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: can talk about drugs that potentially could be used on you, right, 496 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: as in maybe some kind of active attack. That could 497 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: be an interesting episode. Yeah, all right, So continues on here. 498 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: Devil's breath is known for its ability to make people 499 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: who ingest it very pliable. Oh there's the word. That's 500 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: why I had pliable in my brain because I just 501 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: read this from us Always Something. Sorry for taking your 502 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: word there. It makes feel very pliable and trusting while 503 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: seeming coherent, then leaves victims forgetting the whole incident. So 504 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: it's been known to be used in such con artist schemes. 505 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: After the national headlines on the Belarus case, wece made 506 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: a video called World's Scariest Drug. That's what we were 507 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: just talking about, Ben And this is where they send 508 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: a crew to Columbia to investigate and try the substance out. 509 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: So enjoy this weird detura rabbit hole. Sincerely, Always Something 510 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. Well there you go. There's some stuff to 511 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: check out on your own right now. World Scariest Drug 512 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: on Vice. Learn about this interesting fellow here, John Belaris 513 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: B O. 514 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: L A. 515 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: R I. S. 516 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: And Yeah, just go down the rabbit holes yourselves. We'll 517 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: see what we find and then let's come back together. 518 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: Why don't you write to us or send us a 519 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: message and let us know what you discover. We'll be 520 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: right back with more messages from you, and. 521 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: We have returned. We are traveling down south to visit 522 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: our fellow conspiracy realist in Australia and this is an 523 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: ongoing conversation. A big thank you to anonymous in OZ. 524 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: We'll read the story. We'll stop along the way for 525 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: a couple of different things, and we want to be 526 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: careful with some details going in to do what we 527 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: can to protect our listeners anonymity. Also unrelated, unrelated thanks 528 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: to AA for writing in talking about the GHB, which 529 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: should be in our episode on those drugs as weapons. 530 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 531 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: Hey guys, I'm writing to you from Suddy and Steamy, 532 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: far North Queensland in Australia. Your recent strange news story 533 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: regarding those poor actors hired for the fake Wonka event 534 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: prompted me to share my story with you. On twenty 535 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 4: third June twenty eleven, I was hired as an extra 536 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: aspiring actress and all that through my talent agency and 537 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: told to attend a large hotel in the in Sydney, Australia. 538 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: There were two hundred extras, all hired from our agency. 539 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: The only information we were given was to wear smart 540 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 4: business attire, and here they mean smart, like you know, fancy, 541 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: like your C suite at an office or something. On arrival, 542 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: a lady check off our names and handed me a 543 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: large envelope. Walking into the conference room, it became clear 544 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: we were in an AGM, an annual general meeting of 545 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: a very large corporation. I opened my envelope. There was 546 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: a share certificate, so like a certificate giving you a 547 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: certain number of shares, So a share certificate with my 548 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: name and address on it. A ballot form for this 549 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: big vote that had already been filled out. I was 550 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: told to go to another person, show them my ID, 551 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: my share certificate, and then put my ballot into a box. 552 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 4: I can't remember the full name of the organization anonymous 553 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: as originally, but it was definitely a life insurance or 554 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: super annoation company. There were a lot of very distressed 555 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: older people at the meeting. And this already sounds fishy, right. 556 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: Being a paid actor in a Willy Wonka experience is 557 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: one thing, But being paid to rig a corporation's votes 558 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: is that what? That's what this sounds like, right? 559 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: Geez? 560 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 5: Like we talk about things like crisis actors sometimes and 561 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 5: the word actor being thrown in there always to make 562 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 5: me think of if this is even a thing. Where 563 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: does one go to purchase the services of a crisis actor? 564 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: Is the special service offered by talent agencies? 565 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: It seems like an unusual situation. Mm hmm. 566 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 4: It also reminds me of when lobbyists have rigged different 567 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: local votes by packing packing crowds. But Anonymous continues and says, 568 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: you can tell this was kind of weird for her too. 569 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: She says, I asked why a share certificate had been 570 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: made up in my name, and I was told it 571 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: was done through my talent agency, and I was free 572 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: to leave once I cast my vote. I was told 573 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: I'd be paid for the full four hour call time, 574 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: but you just had to show your idea and drop 575 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: the ballot in the box. Then I was told if 576 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: I handed them back my share certificate, I get an 577 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: additional two hundred dollars in cash. So like, also, you 578 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: have to sell the shares back to us? 579 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: What yeah, they want to shaay clean. 580 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: Right, Well, so there's no record of the payment then, 581 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: or no that because she's getting paid as an actor 582 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: and getting two hundred in cash, but the shares. 583 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: Go if she if she sells the shares back, I 584 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: guess technically, and it makes me wonder if that's the 585 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: case for all these other extras. Then if you look 586 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: at the company's record, it seems like there were all 587 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: of a sudden a ton of people who got shares, 588 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: voted once, and then got out. 589 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: That's very unusual. This is, of course fraud. 590 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, you know, I'm not like the king 591 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: of fraud, but I think it is like I'm not 592 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: a fraud expert, but it does. It's surprising to me 593 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: that that is not illegal. 594 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 5: It's like inside our training almost kind of right where 595 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 5: there's maybe a gray area for when does that become 596 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: a crime and what it is just kind of like 597 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: acting on information and it happenstance. 598 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 599 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: We love weirdly specific crimes, you know, shout out to 600 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: stamp fraud, but this is this one is so specific 601 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: and strange that I think we couldn't figure out initially 602 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: if it is illegal, So Anonymous continues, I knew this 603 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: was totally immoral, if not illegal, so I did not 604 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: cast my vote. I contacted my agency to complain, and 605 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: they were not interested at all. Their cut from the 606 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: two hundred extras that day mattered more than what we 607 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 4: had actually been sent to do. 608 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: Uh checks out. I guess it does. 609 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 5: But it's weird that you that a talent agency would 610 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 5: allow themselves to be mixed up in something like this. 611 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: But I guess that it pays. Yeah, guy, diversify, you know, Yeah, 612 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: it's a gig. A gig is a gig, right, especially 613 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: if you're aspiring in the entertainment industry. 614 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 5: And do you see what I mean about the crisis 615 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 5: actors thing too? Doesn't it feel aligned in a way. 616 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: It feels similar to the crisis actor theory for sure, 617 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 4: or the idea that you are hiring someone on a 618 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: short term basis to appear as though they are someone else, 619 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 4: and crisis actors. It's very controversial conspiracy theory. It hasn't 620 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: been proven. But that's that's wrapped up. It's spart and 621 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: parcel of the Alex allegations about Sandy Hook. Anyway, so 622 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: Anonymous says, I know it made the media at the time. 623 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: I'm having a hard time finding anything about it now. 624 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: Pretty shady way of swinging the outcome of AGM huh 625 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: or as we also say, dodgy Anonymous, we say dodgy too. 626 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: I sure don't we all say dodgy anyway? So thank 627 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: you for the show. It means a lot. And then 628 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: I wrote back to Anonymous and wanted to get more information, 629 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: and Anonymous revealed the name. The name of the company 630 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 4: is Premium Income Fund. It is like, you know, the 631 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: mentioned super super annuation that's kind of like a that's 632 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 4: like a pension retirement plan thing, and Premium Income Fund 633 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: is apparently tied up to retirement savings for a lot 634 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 4: of older people in that country. 635 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: So it's like a shareholder meeting of some sort. Like 636 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: is that the thing like where the people who are 637 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: voting are supposed to be a part? Like do you 638 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: have to be a member or something? 639 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very strange. You don't have all the details yet, 640 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: but that's what it sounds like. And it also sounds 641 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 4: like someone whomever contacted the Talent agency wanted the vote 642 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: to go a certain way. And if those other people 643 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: that Anonymous saw who were actual shareholders, if they were 644 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: very distressed, then it sounds like it's a controversial vote. 645 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that has to be illegal. 646 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: Do we have any Australian lawyers or barristers in the 647 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 4: crowd if so, conspiracydiheartradio dot com, you know three to 648 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 4: three STDWYTK. We would love to know more about this. 649 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: So there was a huge civil action afterwards. Ten thousand retirees, 650 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 4: per Anonymous, because we talked back and forth about this, 651 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: were in her words, screwed out of their life savings. 652 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 4: And Anonymous just again needs to stay anonymous. But this 653 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: brought up so many questions for me, and I think 654 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: for all of us. How often does stuff like this happen? 655 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 4: Does that could have happened in the US? Did you 656 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: rig a shareholder vote? It makes me think of succession, 657 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 4: of course. 658 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 5: I mean if it could, Yes, it could happen and 659 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 5: likely has happened, especially considering how relatively straightforward a process 660 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 5: this was. 661 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, that's wild. 662 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 4: That's the surprising thing, you know that it's the straightforwardness 663 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 4: of it all. So it's terrible that it sounds like 664 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 4: it's being predatory against these retirees. And on a personal level, 665 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 4: I think we can all find that repugnant. But I 666 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 4: would love to hear more about this. Have you guys 667 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 4: ever heard of something like this happening before? Like I 668 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: hear it, it makes sense but I've never thought someone. 669 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 4: I'd never thought of someone doing that. 670 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: It seems like if you're voting, you know, in a 671 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: shareholder meeting or something like that. I'm sure we've all 672 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: been shareholders at some point in our careers, just through 673 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: like Discovery, we used to. They used to send out 674 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: some weird stuff with that. Back when we like got 675 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: Discovery stuff. 676 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: I guess we're like, what is vesting? Yeah, spoiler, it's 677 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 4: not a real vest Well. 678 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: We're we're pretty young folks back then. I didn't know 679 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 2: anything about any of this stuff. And we would get 680 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: in the mail like a ballot basically that you would 681 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: vote on stuff that's up for as a shareholder basically. 682 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: And I do wonder if this thing this premium income fund, 683 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: that's what is called premium income fund? 684 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: Income fund? And what do we say about innocuous names. 685 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking through trying to find exactly what it 686 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: is and if there was a vote that you could check, 687 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: like meeting that had minutes or results of something, and 688 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm having a really hard time just in the moment. 689 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: But same we got a PDF that does have more information. 690 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 4: But again, in the interest of anonymity, we don't want 691 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 4: to share too much of that on air. But we 692 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 4: also you know, now that I'm thinking through it, maybe 693 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: it's just immoral. Maybe it's not technically illegal because they 694 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 4: do own the shares when they vote. Yeah, but someone 695 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 4: filled out their ballot already for them. 696 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 697 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 4: All right, Well, we are going to follow up with 698 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 4: this in the future. We want to learn more about it. 699 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: We want to hear from you folks if you have 700 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 4: encountered similar strange shenanigans. And before we end, wanted to 701 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: do another segment that we've been calling letters from home. 702 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 4: We got a pretty thought provoking message over on ye 703 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: old internets, So Doug m writes to us via Instagram, 704 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: hit me up on Instagram and said, listening to the 705 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 4: strange news on Frank and Sheet being used for hunting 706 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: the future seems to be cloning humans for use in 707 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: government training, police, super weather fun time, but what would 708 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 4: be the legal standing for murdering a clone? That's going 709 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 4: to keep me busy today. Clone rights and then also 710 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: great episode And as soon as I read this, I 711 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 4: thought we would love this discussion on air. 712 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Clone rights. 713 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 4: Do you guys think clones will be on the way 714 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: like manufactured cannon fodder for war. 715 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 3: That's gross. Yeah, of course, if they can do it, 716 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: they'll probably try. 717 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 5: But I mean we were talking about this off Mike briefly, 718 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 5: and I just think there have to be that conversation 719 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: has to happen, could there, you know? I mean for 720 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 5: all tents and purposes, a clone is it's it's a person. 721 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: It's not a robot, it's not an AI. It's flesh 722 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 5: and blood and presumably something that resembling the soul. 723 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be used for can of fodder 724 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: and war. I think the robots, the machines are going to. 725 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 4: Be that a little more efficient. 726 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. 727 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: It's going to be that organ harvesting and all that 728 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: other stuff with If clones become a thing, it's a 729 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: personal clone, and it's just got your stuff in it. 730 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 5: Okay, And you think we can just use them, we 731 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 5: can just harvest their organs and have them as like 732 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 5: blood boys. 733 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: You know, is that you really where's the line? 734 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 4: Do you just do grow? Do you grow individual organs 735 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: in some kind of suspension? Do you grow a full 736 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: body but without a brain just to despair? 737 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 3: You know? Yeah? 738 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 4: And that that does get pretty gory pretty quickly. I 739 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 4: wonder if look right now. One of the main stumbling 740 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: blocks in the science behind human cloning is that there 741 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 4: are some hard ethical constraints about what you can and 742 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 4: can't clone, how long you can allow a human clone 743 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 4: to exists. I feel like clones will be on the way, though, 744 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 4: because the science is possible. I just don't know what 745 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: they'll be used for. 746 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: Have either of you guys seen Poor Things the film? 747 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch it, but I've not seen 748 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: it yet. 749 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 5: It's really really great, first of all, and it's not 750 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: nearly as like raunchy and controversial as people seem to 751 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 5: be making it out. I mean, it's got some, you know, 752 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 5: titillating stuff, but it really is, to me a very 753 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 5: nice movie. It has a kindness to it in a way. 754 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 5: But it's of course the classic Frankenstein's story where you 755 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 5: create a thing and then realize that it also learns 756 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 5: and has feelings and changes, and you can't just treat 757 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 5: it like a like a pet, or even worse, like 758 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 5: a like a slave, or like something without agency. And 759 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 5: this movie kind of takes a feminist approach to that concept, 760 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 5: and I think it does it beautifully. But that's the thing, 761 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 5: man like Ben you mentioned without a brain. Oh even 762 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 5: just the saying that just sounds wrong, doesn't it? 763 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 4: Like wow, like remove the cortex the cerebe element. 764 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 5: So it's like it's like giving somebody a lobotomy in 765 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 5: a sanitarium to prelostomy, a pre lobotomy. 766 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: It's also it reminds me there was a recent episode 767 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 4: or an episode from a recent season of Rick and 768 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 4: Morty which is all about the tasty spaghetti sauce. 769 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: You can't see that one, No, I don't know that one. 770 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 4: Okay, well, light spoilers ahead, folks, or big spoilers ahead, 771 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 4: three to one spoilers. So in this one episode of 772 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: Rick m Mordy, the family is having their weekly like 773 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 4: family dinner time, and everybody loves Grandpa Rick's spaghetti. It's 774 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 4: like a secret family recipe that he talks about their 775 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: nuts for it. It's called that's a morte. And what 776 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: they learn is that this spaghetti comes from the death 777 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: of aliens, like aliens on this other planet. When they die, 778 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 4: their guts are the spaghetti. 779 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: Oh wow, and the sauce. 780 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 781 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 5: Also, guys with light spoilers soil and green it's people. 782 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Gary oldman the whole time. 783 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: We got a review on Apple Bodcasts. It says, these 784 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: guys are constantly spoiling stuff I haven't finished yet. 785 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 4: Okay, well then shall we proceed? 786 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 787 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 4: Indeed, so the reason I bring this up, then all 788 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: sorts of hygiencs happens. Rick and Morty has these fantastic writers, 789 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 4: these incredible concepts, and in there they try the people 790 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 4: who are the origin point of the spaghetti. Their civilization 791 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: institute's an economy of scale, and they say, hey, how 792 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 4: can we ethically reconcile the fact that the best spaghetti 793 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 4: in the universe has to come from these people dying? 794 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 4: And then they manufacture like clone things, and Grandpa Rick says, 795 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: all right, let's just make torsos. Get rid of the 796 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 4: human or the thinking, the consciousness problem altogether. And they say, okay, 797 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: we make torsos. I forgot the big thing in this episode. 798 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 4: They only turn into amazing spaghetti if they kill themselves, 799 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 4: if they commit suicide. Yeah, right, and so they end 800 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 4: up that makes it the best I guess so, And 801 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: otherwise they just die like a regular life form. So 802 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 4: they get to a point where they build out just torsos. 803 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 4: But because the torsos have to commit suicide. They give 804 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 4: them one arm and there's and they just the torsos 805 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 4: use that one arm to become spaghetti. 806 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 3: Cool. 807 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 4: God, is that where cloning is going? We need to 808 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 4: with Dan Harmon on this, like what's going on there? 809 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: Man? 810 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 4: I think it's fascinating, but I also think it's I 811 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 4: think cloning is on the way, It is inevitable, and 812 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 4: civilization is not prepared. 813 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 5: I guess I always just think this is probably also 814 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 5: the thing I've seen Rick and Morty, but I've certainly 815 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 5: seen another cartoons, maybe Family Guy, where you've got like 816 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 5: the clone gone wrong and it's just like kill me, 817 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: you know, like it's ghastly stuff if not treated with 818 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 5: the utmost of respect and morality, which I don't know 819 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 5: how you even do that properly. I think I like 820 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 5: the idea of growing the organs individually in a lab, 821 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 5: but maybe didn't they have a thing where they could grow, 822 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 5: like the ear on the back of a mouse or 823 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 5: something that's interesting. I mean, I know, I'm sure there's 824 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 5: people out there that are like, no, don't kill the 825 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 5: poor mouse, but there's got to be ways of doing that. 826 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 5: The really you know, life changing parts of this without 827 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 5: having to sacrifice our humanity and becomes some sort of 828 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 5: like mad gods. 829 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 4: And you know what I like about this episode is 830 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: it packs in so many things, right, like the the 831 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: ethics of factory livestock and eating meat, you know, the 832 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: problem of cloning, the problem of the nature of existence. 833 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's a wild ride, and I hope it 834 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 4: stays science fiction for a while. But like with all 835 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 4: good science fiction, how long is it before some part 836 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 4: of that becomes science fact? And I don't know, if 837 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 4: you guys had a chance to clone yourselves, would. 838 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 3: You do it? I don't think so. 839 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 5: I mean, if it was, like, you know, I would 840 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 5: think of this in terms of like save the life 841 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 5: of my child kind of stuff, you know what I mean? 842 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: I see, Yeah, so it'd have to be very high 843 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 4: I think so. 844 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 845 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 5: But it's also the kind of technologies of course going 846 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 5: to only be available to the mega mega privileged, in 847 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 5: mega mega rich. 848 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. In the beginning, there's also this other idea. I 849 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 4: think this is weirdly possib will hear me out, guys, 850 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 4: you're a business tycoon, right, You're a warm buffet level financier, 851 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 4: or you know, you're just a very powerful business person, 852 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 4: and you are going to die. You have a terminal condition. 853 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 3: You know it. 854 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 4: It's inevitable. You can't save your own life. However, you 855 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 4: can continue your state and your companies and your corporations 856 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 4: if you clone yourself and sign over the legal rights 857 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 4: to your clone. So then just version one of you 858 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 4: dies and then the other guy just sales right along, 859 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: creating a potentially never ending cycle of power lineage. 860 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 5: Dude, have you guys seen Infinity Pool, the Brandon Cronenberg film. 861 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 3: I think I have no you'd remembered about it. That's 862 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 863 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 5: Speaking to the one dissenting voice on Apple podcasts. I'm 864 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 5: not going to spoil it, but there is. It's basically 865 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,959 Speaker 5: a film where the super rich are able to buy 866 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 5: a get out of jail free card for committing horrible crimes. 867 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 5: Oh that's what I have, Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah buy Basically, 868 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 5: through cloning, they're able to create so okay and whatever. 869 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 5: This is a sports there's a million things, other things 870 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 5: that happen, and this is the trailer. They they are 871 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 5: able to create a clone that then is executed on 872 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 5: their behalf. And because of this, let there's a ritual 873 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 5: aspect to it. They have to watch it happen. But 874 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 5: it really does beg the question of like, what would 875 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 5: people do with if they never had to be held 876 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 5: accountable for their actions? And the clone part of it 877 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 5: is like it it feels it, it knows what's it 878 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 5: doesn't know what's happening because it's memory. 879 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: It only starts at the moment of its birth. 880 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 5: But it's like you're it's being horrifically executed on behalf 881 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 5: of its clone master. 882 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 4: And even Star Wars hits on this right with the 883 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 4: Clone Wars. Absolutely people have been thinking about this for 884 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 4: a long time. There is a There is a fantastic 885 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 4: Orson Scott card short story, and I disagree fundamentally with 886 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 4: Card in his personal life and his beliefs, but the 887 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 4: story itself is really good. That is all about the 888 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 4: nature of attempting redemption physiologically, spiritually, financially through cloning. Spoiler, 889 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 4: it's like an O Henry story. It doesn't it has 890 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 4: a twist ours And this is this is strange because 891 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 4: I think also other versions of cloning are coming to 892 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 4: the fore before the rollout of human clones in the 893 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 4: physical sense will have the rollout of cloned voices and appearances. 894 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 4: That's part of why I think it's inevitable, because it's 895 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 4: already happening in the world of entertainment. I think there 896 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 4: are a couple big companies post actor strike who who 897 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 4: will require extras and people getting started in Hollywood to 898 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 4: sign away the rights to their appearance in the background 899 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: of things like their. 900 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 3: Body gets mapped. 901 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: Sure, and they get a f fee once and then 902 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 4: your likeness can be used in any movie owned by 903 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 4: that company. 904 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 5: Great New Black Mirror episode in the most recent season 905 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 5: then handles that whole concept brilliantly as they usually do. 906 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so we want to hear your thoughts about this, folks. 907 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 4: We want to hear what you think the world should 908 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 4: keep in mind if we do arrive at an age 909 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: of cloning. 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