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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three Now Podcast. We got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot going on, Cousins Raiders. We got

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Speaker 1: Who are there some other stories. Obviously it's Fugazi Friday.

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Speaker 1: I like, I liked Arizona, but now it feels like

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Speaker 1: let's talk to the football. You guys know the Drill.

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Speaker 1: You know, Matt Lafleur and specifically Sean McVeigh were I

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Speaker 1: which would be pick thirteen, and he's probably gonna go

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Speaker 1: last couple of years gonna go down is one of

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Speaker 1: the worst of all time. I mean serious, say, pretty bad,

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Speaker 1: really really bad. The Raiders kind of finagled this thing

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Speaker 1: because at first, you know, Schefter tweets out it's like

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Speaker 1: a four year, one hundred and seventy million dollar deal.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's sharing. I post a picture on Twitter of you know,

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Speaker 1: Cousins is like the Warren Buffett of the NFL. Turns

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Speaker 1: out the Raiders are paying him one point three million

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Speaker 1: dollars this year, but they're paying him a total of

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Speaker 1: eleven point three million dollars. The way that they set

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Speaker 1: this up is they go, hey, we'll give you the

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Speaker 1: VET minimum this year, the same thing Kyler Murray got.

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Speaker 1: Because there's an offset in Cousins contract with the Falcons

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Speaker 1: that if they would have given him ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: just this season, the Falcons would have owed him nothing.

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Speaker 1: So they went like, clearly, we're competing for your services

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Speaker 1: with other teams, where it's pretty clear if you sign

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Speaker 1: with the Packers or the Rams, for example, if their

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are healthy, you will not play a snap. You

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Speaker 1: will be one hundred percent the backup, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you will do. And I would guess because of their

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Speaker 1: financial situations they were not offering Kirk Cousins ten million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You can't pay Jordan Love, you can't pay Matt Stafford, right,

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Speaker 1: whatever they're making combined, and pay a backup quarterback ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars not the way it works. Last year, the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers give pretty a massive contract. Who do

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Speaker 1: they sign Mac Jones? Like a two year, five million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract. So typically you want your backup when you

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Speaker 1: have a high priced guy to be relatively cheap, right,

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders were able to finagle this contract to go,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay you one point three million dollars this year,

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00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: but will essentially pay you eleven point three million dollars,

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00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: which is probably an overpay. I would imagine most teams

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Speaker 1: on the open market. Were not in the business of

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Speaker 1: giving Kirk Cousins over ten million dollars. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you the vet minimum this year to

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Speaker 1: keep your eight point seven, so it won't be ten,

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Speaker 1: but we'll make up the difference of the one point three.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons will pay you eight point seven, so you

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Speaker 1: will get a guaranteed ten million dollars this year. We

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Speaker 1: will give you a roster bonus next year that is guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: That is ten million dollars. So from the Raiders, we're

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Speaker 1: giving you over eleven million dollars, and the Falcons are

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00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: giving you almost nine million dollars. You'll make combine twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. But you're not going to be on our

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Speaker 1: team next year, more than likely because we did this

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Speaker 1: kind of fake contract that if he is on the roster,

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Speaker 1: he would immediately kick into a two year, eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract, which clearly the Raiders are not gonna do.

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Speaker 1: But no matter what, we're giving you ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: next year, and it's worth it for us to just

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Speaker 1: cook the books a little bit. So I would imagine

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Speaker 1: the Falcons are like, we just got fucked. We just

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Speaker 1: got screwed the Raiders. The money they're gonna pay them,

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Speaker 1: they don't even need to worry about till next fiscal year. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not ideal like they're gonna carry Cousins money on

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Speaker 1: the books next year, but who knows what if Cousins

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Speaker 1: goes this is an awesome situation. And if you just

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Speaker 1: give me a couple million dollars more, we'll redo the contract.

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Speaker 1: So I just come back on the ten million you're

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Speaker 1: paying me, and maybe three or four more, and I'm

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Speaker 1: essentially like a fourteen million dollar backup. Now by that

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Speaker 1: time with Fernando, maybe they're not in the business of

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Speaker 1: doing that, but they're already in for ten for Cousins,

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Speaker 1: so what they're gonna have to pay someone to be

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Speaker 1: the backup anyway, So maybe they could give him a

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Speaker 1: couple of million dollars more to be the backup, especially

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Speaker 1: if he likes the spot. And I just would imagine

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Speaker 1: the Falcons are just like, how did this happen? And

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Speaker 1: it happened because the personnel decisions they made for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years stretch. It just doesn't get much worse,

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Speaker 1: it really doesn't. And for having him now be on

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, and for you still picking up the bill

543
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: is the reason the GM got fired. Reason that Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan and now obviously Ian Cunningham, who is the GM,

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Speaker 1: and I saw that they are appealing their Rooney Rule

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Speaker 1: draft picks, which they one hundred percent should get. Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan has admitted he's running free agency. He's the GM,

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00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: he's picking the players. That is not my role. It's

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Speaker 1: not these these picks are just created from scratch. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you're taking these picks from someone else. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like anyone else's arguing against them. But which

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Speaker 1: I would imagine they end up winning, but I guess

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Speaker 1: you never know. So the Raiders get them for the

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Speaker 1: VET minimum this year. To kind of show Mendoza the ropes,

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Speaker 1: I texted a couple of people about Mendoza's pro day

556
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Speaker 1: because I saw Coward talking about it this morning. That

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Speaker 1: one thing Fernando Mendoza did is typically when you go

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Speaker 1: to these pro days for a quarterback, there is a

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach, like their trainer that runs the script. So

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Speaker 1: you see a guy with the script of the passes.

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: There's anywhere from like fifty to sixty. You go through

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Speaker 1: the route tree, you do some mobility stuff, you do

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Speaker 1: some play action stuff, you do some stuff that teams

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Speaker 1: that are interested in drafting you, you know they'd want

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Speaker 1: to see. And you just go through the script and

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Speaker 1: the coach tells the quarterback XYZ, the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver here, and they run the play. Yesterday at

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Speaker 1: Indiana two days ago, now, Fernando Mendoza would call out

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Speaker 1: the route to the wide receiver. He ran the pro

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Speaker 1: day with his former quarterback coach who's been in Indiana,

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Speaker 1: who's now in Tampa Bay. So Fernando Mendoza was in

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Speaker 1: charge of the pro day, and he had said the

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Speaker 1: reason he didn't throw at the combine, which is something

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00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: that has become more popular, but when he originally said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not throwing at the combine. But the biggest reason

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it is because I want to put a

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Speaker 1: bigger emphasis on my proa where I got multiple wide

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Speaker 1: receiver prospects in this draft that I want them to

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Speaker 1: be showcased. They just helped us me. We just did

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Speaker 1: it together, won the national championship. Those are my guys.

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Speaker 1: So it's throwing to these random guys and listen the

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Speaker 1: combine throwings all over the map. You got short balls,

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Speaker 1: deep balls, you don't know their speed. It was like, God,

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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. And then yesterday, when

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Speaker 1: you watch some of the highlights of him doing that,

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Speaker 1: You're like, damn, I don't even think I've ever heard that.

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Speaker 1: So I immediately start texting around. I text Spi Tech, who

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Speaker 1: was there. He hasn't taken me back yet, but text

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Speaker 1: a couple other people who were also there, said have

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: you ever seen that? And they said, spy Tech, I

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00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: don't remember seeing that ever. He just text me back.

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Speaker 1: I text multiple other people, I don't remember ever seeing that.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. This is something that does

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Speaker 1: not happen. This is not one of those all you're

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Speaker 1: making too big a deal. I text it with a

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Speaker 1: scout who's been going to Pro days for twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: who's been at the biggest pro days over the course

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Speaker 1: of the last two decades, with the biggest quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the draft over those periods of time, from Johnny Manziel

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Speaker 1: to JaMarcus Russell to Goff to you name it, all

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Speaker 1: the guys, big names, guys drafted. It doesn't happen, and

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Speaker 1: he did it. So and here's the other thing I

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Speaker 1: was texting with a guy who said, here's the thing

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: about Mendoza athletic ability, really good arm, solid size, elite, smarts, elite.

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Speaker 1: You know what that sounds like to me? A Shanahan

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Speaker 1: Kubiak type quarterback. They don't. I did, would they love

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Tom Brady, you know, big arm, who's a

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00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: big arm justin Herbert of course, but they don't need it.

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Speaker 1: I just use the example of Kubiak's dad with Matt

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Speaker 1: Schopp before he fell apart. One thing. Kubiak's dad had

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Speaker 1: Matt schab looking like a pro bowler because accuracy timing,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith with Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid, Brock Perty,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo with Kyle Shanahan, Hell, Jared Goff, Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. You don't need to have a howitzer to

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Speaker 1: excel in a specific offense, which is this one. And

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Speaker 1: this is the thing with Jalen Hurts, we talked about

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00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: putting the back to the defense. Well, part of putting

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: back to the defense is it makes it easier with

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Speaker 1: these great play guards to get guys open. Why because

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Speaker 1: of the run fas and because of the boots in

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Speaker 1: the play action. It's a huge part of this offense.

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Speaker 1: Cousins has been doing it for a decade, and he

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Speaker 1: can help show Fernando Mendoza and get by on an arm.

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Speaker 1: Cousin's a good example, never had a great arm. But

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Speaker 1: what is Fernando Mendoza, Unlike Cousins, a really good athlete?

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Speaker 1: Not Lamar Jackson, not Kyler Murray, not Josh Allen, but

627
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: like better than like half the league can move. So

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Speaker 1: I I think when you look at Fernando Mendoza and

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Speaker 1: you look at the size and the intangibles, like that's

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Speaker 1: really important, and you go, well, he doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: biggest arm, bud, he's accurate. You want me to listen

632
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: some guys that don't have the biggest arm but are accurate.

633
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Dak Prescott in his prime, Kirk Cousins. You

634
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: can be a playoff quarterback when you have that attribute.

635
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Brock Purty. Now, like you're like, well, he's not gonna

636
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Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes. No shit, Patrick Mahomes already like a

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Speaker 1: top five quarterback of all time. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. We've never seen a quarterback like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: He's like John Elway reincarnated. Who cares if you tell

640
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Speaker 1: me that Dak Prescott instead of on the Chaotic Cowboys,

641
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Speaker 1: had just been playing for McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan probably

642
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Speaker 1: would have more January wins under his belt. But he's

643
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: got a ton of regular season wins under his belt.

644
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Speaker 1: You can win a lot of games with those guys.

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Speaker 1: Is he an all time great prospect? No? Is he

646
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Speaker 1: the greatest player we've ever seen coming out of college? No?

647
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Speaker 1: Is he damn good? Though? And if I was a

648
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Speaker 1: Raider fan, would I be really fired up? And am

649
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Speaker 1: I a big fan of him as a player, because

650
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Speaker 1: one thing I've learned is the intangible stuff, the smarts

651
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: and the accuracy go a long freaking way in the NFL.

652
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: And obviously the toughness, And that's the other thing I

653
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Speaker 1: didn't know if he was clearly you don't play like

654
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Speaker 1: Division I college quarterback and be a puss, So you

655
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Speaker 1: got some level of toughness. But then there are levels

656
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Speaker 1: of like, god, damn, this guy's this guy's a war daddy.

657
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Speaker 1: When he got hit on that first play of the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State game and two plays later he was running

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Speaker 1: back on the field, I want that was that was

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Speaker 1: big time. That that was that's the NFL. Because in

661
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, you turned the corner and all of a sudden,

662
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: So and So is there who's been to three Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowls and he hits you right in the sternum. So

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Speaker 1: I think Mendoza this conversation, you know from Urlowsky who listened,

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Speaker 1: smart guy played quarterback. Has he ever been in a

666
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Speaker 1: drafts room or has he talked to these gms? Like

667
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Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? To me, the gap

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Speaker 1: between these two guys, because I listen, I've heard this

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Speaker 1: argument Ty Simpson is closer to Mendoza than he is

670
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Speaker 1: the third best quarterback in this draft. This is one

671
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Speaker 1: of the worst quarterback drafts we've ever seen. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that's not saying much. No one thinks Ty Simpson is

673
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Speaker 1: some scrub. To me, he's like a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with you. A third round pick, Russell Wilson,

675
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Speaker 1: third round pick, Dak Prescott, third round pick, Kirk Cousins

676
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick you can go on to make hundreds

677
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Speaker 1: of millions of dollars Pro Bowls and play in the playoffs.

678
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Speaker 1: Is a third or fourth round pick. But take him

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Speaker 1: in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Of me feels pretty bold.

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Speaker 1: Let's hit on just some NFL stories. I did see

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Speaker 1: this article. I wanted to pull up the quote because

683
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Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about this is the difference

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Speaker 1: between cash and salary cap. So I pulled up the

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Speaker 1: cash spending in heading into twenty twenty six in the NFL,

686
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Speaker 1: the Niners were won at like three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. The Broncos, the Colts, the Bills, the Eagles,

688
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, all these teams are spending more cash, all

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Speaker 1: above three twenty three thirty three forty. The salary caps

690
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: what three hundred million dollars, So they are spending more

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Speaker 1: money than the cap exists. And the athletic Mike Sando

692
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Speaker 1: did an article on the AFC and he basically got

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Speaker 1: unnamed gms and assistant coaches and head coaches and guys

694
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Speaker 1: just to give quotes on the stuff that happened. And

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Speaker 1: there was a you know, different takes on DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: and Crosby and Trey Hendrickson. But I found this really

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Speaker 1: interesting because I listen. I think Jim Harbaugh's a star.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best coaches I've seen

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, and I think the Chargers are going

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Speaker 1: to be a massive problem this year. I think they're

701
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Speaker 1: gonna be really good over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But this this executive brought up an interesting point. He says,

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Speaker 1: once you have owners who say no, I want to

704
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Speaker 1: go for it, it becomes really hard for teams who

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Speaker 1: are passive to win big. If you're the Chargers or

706
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Speaker 1: the Bengals and you're gonna play this thing passive, yeah,

707
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Speaker 1: you're gonna compete with the Ravens right now and the

708
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Broncos right now, but in two years, it's gonna be different.

709
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Speaker 1: Teams that have passed you. Their quarterback is making twenty

710
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: four million dollars in base salary this season, and they're

711
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Speaker 1: gonna be the lowest cash spending team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Take advantage of this and go get good players, even

713
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Speaker 1: if it's just on one year deals. So when you

714
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Speaker 1: look at the cash spending this, according to spot track,

715
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Speaker 1: Miami has manipulated the books a little bit because they

716
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Speaker 1: have traded away some guys. So technically they're dead last

717
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Speaker 1: in two hundred million dollars in cash spending because a

718
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Speaker 1: lot of their salary cap of that three hundred million

719
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Speaker 1: dollars is going to be dead money, right Tyreek to

720
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Speaker 1: a waddle, so their salary cap is going to go well,

721
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Speaker 1: they're using up to three hundred million dollars, but the

722
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins as of right now are only spending two

723
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Right above them at number thirty one

724
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Speaker 1: in the NFL is the Chargers at two hundred and

725
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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Yet they want to compete against the Bills,

726
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Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Ravens, who are all top eight teams,

727
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs, who are not far away at twelve.

728
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Speaker 1: But it's only the difference of three or four million.

729
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs are spending one hundred million dollars more than

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Speaker 1: in the Chargers. Now, Listen, I was in the car

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Speaker 1: a couple days ago and I heard Joe Ortiz, Actually

732
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Speaker 1: this was Eric Sullivan talk the new gym for the Dolphins,

733
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Speaker 1: of like, you gotta be careful in free agency because

734
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Speaker 1: unless you're signing a Pro Bowl player, you're overpaying for

735
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: average to good players and it can get you in

736
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Speaker 1: some weird spots. So I understand you gotta be hesitant.

737
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Speaker 1: But the Chargers invested all this money into Jim Harbor

738
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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff they brought Joe Ortiz from the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: If they're second to last in cash spending, and the

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Speaker 1: only reason they're not dead last because the Dolphins essentially

741
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Speaker 1: are tanking and traded away or cut all their good

742
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Speaker 1: players or just high priced players. I didn't quite realize that.

743
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Speaker 1: And the world they're in, the Jets, the Falcons, the Saints, Arizona,

744
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Speaker 1: I mean, the group of teams they're in from cash

745
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Speaker 1: spending is not good. It does show you though, if

746
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Speaker 1: you pay or get the right coach, he can overcome

747
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: stuff like this. Because the Spanos family who listen, they've

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Speaker 1: been historically cheap and like I said to me, being

749
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: frugal is a disease. It's something that you get young

750
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Speaker 1: and you don't overcome. Most people who are cheap at

751
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Speaker 1: like twenty four are not like big tippers and big

752
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: spenders and you know, loose with their money at fifty five.

753
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Speaker 1: That's not usually the way it works. Historically, Tiger Woods

754
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan, both billionaires, extremely cheap. Well, guess what

755
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: when they were eighteen, when they were twenty four, they're

756
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: no different than they were at fifty and sixty years old.

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Speaker 1: It is something that is ingrained in your soul, and

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00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos probably gets it from his dad, who came

759
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: up in a world where money in the NFL was

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Speaker 1: a lot different. I know the Chiefs and Andy and

761
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Speaker 1: Veitch have battled this with the Hunts, because when you

762
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: have been in this business back in the sixties, the seventies,

763
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Speaker 1: the eighties, the money was not like today. And the

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Speaker 1: Spanos family, who's been around for a long time in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you know that they struggle with some stuff.

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Speaker 1: And to me that quote, if I ran a team

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Speaker 1: that's competing for the Super Bowl against these other teams

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Speaker 1: in my conference that are spending a ton of money

769
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Speaker 1: in my own division, I'd be fucking embarrassed. I really would.

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Speaker 1: So good luck on them overcoming that. This segment is

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Speaker 1: change of scenery sponsored by our friends at Toyota. I

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Speaker 1: saw this interesting nugget that Brian Schottenheimer said clearly, Osa Digazua,

773
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Speaker 1: the pass rushing penetrator, was one of his favorite players

774
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Speaker 1: on the team. Excellent player, just this interior penetrating pass rusher.

775
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, whose defense was atrocious last year, are changing

776
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: their scheme and Osa no longer fit. So they had

777
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Speaker 1: to trade him. He's under a big contract, and the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers like, here's the third round pick, we

779
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Speaker 1: will take him immediately. And John Lynch said that they

780
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Speaker 1: were in on a couple guys like that they thought

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Speaker 1: they had and fell through, like they were being aggressive

782
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Speaker 1: on veteran players using a trade. Brian Shottenneimer said when

783
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Speaker 1: he talked to him on the phone after the trade,

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Speaker 1: he cried, he wept. If you're another team and you

785
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Speaker 1: trade for a player and that player's coach who has

786
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Speaker 1: it's not like the guy drafted him. How long shot

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Speaker 1: Nimer been there? Was there one year with McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: then last year was the head coach, so he's been

789
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Speaker 1: around him a couple of years. I'd feel better. I'd

790
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Speaker 1: be like, God, this this is what I want. And

791
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: the Niners are really fired up to have him. He's

792
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Speaker 1: an excellent positional scheme fit for them who basically just

793
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Speaker 1: have one gap, get up the field, chase the quarterback

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Speaker 1: with their defensive line. But you know, we talk a

795
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Speaker 1: lot about these guys make a lot of money and

796
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: is no different with coaches. It's a bizarre profession. You know,

797
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: for most of us, we just kind of get to

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Speaker 1: live where we want to live. If we don't want

799
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Speaker 1: to move, we can just say no. If someone tries

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Speaker 1: to hire us or something and we're not interested, we

801
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: don't have to do it. When you're in this world,

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Speaker 1: you just it's a nomadic lifestyle, which I'm not a

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Speaker 1: nomadic individual. That is not something that like picking up

804
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: and moving and changing houses is not something that I

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Speaker 1: would be into it all. Like I really respect listen.

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Speaker 1: I might have got the Tommy Lloyd thing wrong. All

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Speaker 1: signs point to Tommy Lloyd being the next head coach

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I said a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you leave Arizona teams loaded? They

810
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of niol money. Turns out, Gottlieb said,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan called him. Maybe he doesn't love his ad

812
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Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna leave. So I'm I'm all beyond

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Speaker 1: cold takes exposed or whatever. But that guy's led a

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Speaker 1: pretty good life for twenty plus years. He was just

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Speaker 1: with Mark Few and Gonzaga and then one of the

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Speaker 1: best jobs opening, he went to Arizona for five years,

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Speaker 1: and now he's gonna go to North Carolina where if

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Speaker 1: he has success, like he did Arizona in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He could be there for twenty years. You might look

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Speaker 1: back and go, this guy's had three jobs in uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, in thirty five years. That's that's pretty abnormal looking,

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Speaker 1: like click kubiaks, go to his Wikipedia. It's like the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: the Browns, the Texans, the Raiders, Seattle, the Saints. It's like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean they honey, we're moving again. And listen,

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Speaker 1: these guys do well. So I'm not crying for them.

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Speaker 1: But I couldn't do that. I couldn't. I have no

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Speaker 1: interest doing that. It's not the lifestyle I would want.

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Speaker 1: So it's always cool to see guys get a little stability,

829
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Speaker 1: but people are humans, you know, and you get you

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Speaker 1: get the call, it's like, yeah, we gotta trade this guy.

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Speaker 1: We need to open up some cap space. He's not

832
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Speaker 1: gonna fit the scheme. It sucks, you know. This is

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Speaker 1: part of pro sports. It used to not, you know,

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Speaker 1: part of college sports was like kind of had your team,

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Speaker 1: you recruited a guy who was with you for three

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Speaker 1: or four years, five years. Now college is a lot

837
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Speaker 1: like that too. I don't know if many people cry

838
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: in college. They just people just bounce U. There are

839
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Speaker 1: still strong relationships in the pros. So Toyota reminds us

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Speaker 1: One other story, I've seen a lot and I'm not like,

844
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Speaker 1: you know, people get so worked up when they see

845
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Speaker 1: people do things that they think they shouldn't be doing. Like,

846
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Speaker 1: I'm less phased by that part of these big corporations,

847
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Speaker 1: like Nate Burlison on the college basketball main show he's

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Speaker 1: hosting it. It's like, this is basic business. They're paying

849
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: guy probably an astronomical amount of money. If Nate Berlissen's

850
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: salary came out at CBS, people's job would probably hit

851
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: the floor. So if you're paying a guy a ton

852
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: of money and you need to fill a spot, you're

853
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: not just like, hey, let's pay another guy ten million dollars.

854
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: You just try to figure that out. Most of these

855
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: executives aren't exactly like Belichick or pat Riley when it

856
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: comes to personnel moves. Most of them in the sports

857
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: TV just see people under contract that make a lot

858
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: of money or famous people it's like, oh, Joe Montana retired,

859
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: put him in the booth, lasted like a year. But

860
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, it was like Joe Montana,

861
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, the most famous guys in the NFL.

862
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: They were all terrible and then sometimes like Greg Olsen,

863
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: this decent tight end. I guess he was better in

864
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: a DC day. He was a good tight end. It's

865
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: like one of the best broadcasters. Right. Just you never know,

866
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: working in TV or podcasting or radio or whatever has

867
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: like you're either entertaining or not. Like John Gruden's entertaining

868
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: like or good on TV, not because he was a

869
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coach, because he's legitimately entertaining, Like that's

870
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: just something he's good at. It comes naturally to him.

871
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Right Treegman's good at TV. He obviously was a great quarterback,

872
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: but it just good on television. Looks the part handles.

873
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: It gives strong opinions like town I don't remember Chris

874
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: collins Worth ever playing a snap in the NFL. Good

875
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: on television. So ultimately, point is is when these networks

876
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: now are paying these guys huge sums of money, they

877
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: try to use them in a lot of different roles,

878
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: and everyone freaked out because I saw today that Jason kelcey,

879
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN and NFL now merged. So the NFL

880
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: network is owned by Disney, which is obviously owned ESPN

881
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: as well, so under that umbrella. Not exactly sure how

882
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. A lot of people still have questions,

883
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, rap sheet palasarow they got legitimate people. Hopefully

884
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: they're able to merge it and just make a bunch

885
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: of NFL content. We'll see how it all plays out, right.

886
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: I would imagine my guy DJ just replaces mel Kiper

887
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: like they got a bigger roster for football, which obviously

888
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: means a lot to him. But if you think of

889
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the international games have been on NFL network.

890
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: So when you wake up bright and early on a Sunday,

891
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: you're watching the Germany game, the Madrid get whatever game

892
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, halfway across the world, it was on

893
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: NFL network. Rich Eisen and Kurt Warner. Well, some sources

894
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: say that Jason kelce might fill that role because the

895
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: NFL network those five or six games, I think it

896
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: might be up to seven games is gonna be owned

897
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: by ESPN. So ESPN like that's where that game's gonna be.

898
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: And ESPN for sure is putting that game either on

899
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: ESPN or on ABC. Don't think twice about that. They

900
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: are gonna make their money on that product. And Kelsey's

901
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: doing that. But Kelsey became controversial because you know, they

902
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: put him on TGL. I think next week he's doing

903
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: stuff with the Masters and people like overexposure. If you

904
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: don't like it, don't watch it. Like it's just this

905
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: is part of the deal. When these companies pay people Jason,

906
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: the ESPN probably paying him ten to fifteen million dollars.

907
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: You think you're just gonna use them once a week

908
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: on a studio leading into Monday night football. No fucking chance.

909
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: They're trying to get their money's worth. So it's just

910
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: it's part of the gig. I mean, it just is. Now,

911
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: if he annoys you, he's a little overexposure. I get it.

912
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Kelsey's are a lot of places. Five six years ago,

913
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: they were just like two Hall of Fame players. Now

914
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: everywhere you look, they're kind of in your face. But

915
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I've always liked them. I enjoy them. Is he gonna

916
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: annoy some people at the Masters? But as Pat McAfee

917
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I saw this clip one viral yesterday. He's like, everyone's

918
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: pissed off. Well, at least we've been begging to go

919
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: to the Masters for like three straight years since we've

920
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: been a part of ESPN on the par three course,

921
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: and every time Augusta tells him, get fucked, You're not

922
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: welcome here. So it's like, clearly someone at Augusta had

923
00:51:46,560 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: to give the go ahead. Let's end with Fugazi Friday again.

924
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a big mail bag multiple next week,

925
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: running mail bag at John Middlecoff, Instagram, fire and those

926
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: dms A lot of you guys have and I will

927
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: answer your questions next week. But today a couple of

928
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Fugazi's first and foremost, like most of you have done

929
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: over the course of your adult life, dealing with insurance companies.

930
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: And this isn't just an insurance company issue. This is

931
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: a lot of different companies. But I will use an

932
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: insurance example. There was some question with the insurance and

933
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: my kid and he had to go to the pediatrician

934
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: today and we had to call the insurance to get

935
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: They just weren't on the same page and it was

936
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: just a pain in the ass. But I never understand

937
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: what you call these companies USA does this. A lot

938
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: of these companies do it, and you get the au

939
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: debated service, and all of a sudden, they started asking

940
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: your questions, right, what is your member I D? What

941
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: is your day of birth? What is your address? What

942
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: is your social security? And there's no way to avoid it,

943
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: so you just you know, ten whatever, blah blah, and

944
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: you just give it all. And then when you finally,

945
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: probably twenty five minutes later, get a human being on

946
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: the other end of the line that says, hey, welcome

947
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: to a Blue Cross Blue Shield Arizona. You're like, oh,

948
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: thank god, she asked you the same fucking questions. So

949
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: you have just listed the seven things that the automated

950
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: AI services ask you to give. You give it, they

951
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: verify it, they say, hey, John, thanks for being a

952
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: member here for four years. You know, the computer's talking

953
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: back to you. Then when you get the human you

954
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: have to repeat the same information. And today I was thinking,

955
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: because I had to do it twice, almost lost my mind.

956
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you're waiting on hold and that

957
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: music in the background, I don't know if they give

958
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: that music at like you know, in war areas like POW's,

959
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: but that can drive you insane. I was on the

960
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: phone for like forty minutes today. Twenty eight of those

961
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: were just listening to that repeat sound. It's like I

962
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: could go and sing and I'm on edge right now

963
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: every minute that went by. But I had no choice.

964
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: I had to wait because I needed some information. And

965
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: then I just had to repeat the information that I

966
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: had given twenty minutes ago, which clearly led me to

967
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: this person, and she knew what I needed. I just

968
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand that. And it happens everywhere, banking,

969
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, all these companies. What's the

970
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: point to verify me? Then to verify me again? It's

971
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: not like once I talk to the human I give

972
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: them some other piece of information that truly then verifies me.

973
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: But it is what it is, and I'll end on this.

974
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: I saw some viral clips this week of Over the

975
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: course of the tournament, Tom Izzo and Dan Hurley were

976
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: both questioned in media availability sessions about if they thought

977
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: their hard coaching style worked and was needed. And I

978
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: wanted to throw up in my mouth, and both of them,

979
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, just you could tell, tried to handle themselves.

980
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: Both gave really good answers, and Herley eventually said, like,

981
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: I do this to push these guys because in the

982
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: real world, no one gives a shit about you. It

983
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: is cruel, it is cut throat. And I started thinking

984
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: to myself the real world relative to what these kids

985
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: are experiencing as Division one athletes playing, you know, in

986
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, it couldn't be more of a one

987
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: to eighty. You know, if you think about it as

988
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: a college athlete, you get all your meals taken care

989
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: of now and il you're making a ton of money,

990
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: you got a great life, you got the pick of

991
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: the litter on campus. You know, you can do whatever

992
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: you want. I mean, nowadays all classes are online, aka,

993
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: you're not taking any it's a joke, which again I

994
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: got no problem with. I thought classes in college were.

995
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a fugazi, but for someone

996
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: to have the I don't even want to say the balls,

997
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: the like it feels so out of touch with life

998
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: because just dealing like having a family, dealing with yesterday

999
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: my dryer just went up and smoke. Essentially like every

1000
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: day in life, I've been fired, I've lost parents, I've

1001
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: lost friends, Like it's a motherfucker, and the more and

1002
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: more people you can surround yourself with who can kind

1003
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: of teach you that and not just kind of keep

1004
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: you in a little bubble in a cocoon and think

1005
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: there's some utopia out there, because that's not the way

1006
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: it exists. To ask two of I mean, Tom Iso

1007
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: is going to go down as one of the most

1008
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: successful coaches in the history of college sports, and Dan

1009
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Hurley is currently on what has a chance to be

1010
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: non John Wooden, one of the greatest runs in NCAA

1011
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: basketball history. To ask if their coaching style is like

1012
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: to mean, if they're not nice enough. If it was,

1013
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: do you think any of these guys would want to

1014
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: play for them just because they were getting money? They

1015
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: could get money anywhere. All these big schools are now

1016
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: offering money. Why would anyone go play for the quote

1017
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: unquote asshole? Guess what? High achievers? People want to be pushed,

1018
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: And I can speak for men. Sometimes we like getting

1019
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: screamed at. Sometimes I like being humbled a little bit,

1020
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: even if I disagree. Kind of keeps you under toes

1021
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I would say most people I know

1022
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: worth their salt, whether they're athletes, whether they're businessmen. Whatever

1023
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: they do parents kind of like a little you know, contention,

1024
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of like a little anger and screaming every once

1025
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: in a while. Do you know what I call it healthy?

1026
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: You know what I call it real life? Because real

1027
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: life is not all skittles and rainbows. It's not all smiles.

1028
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: Not everything goes well. You get thrown curveballs every single day.

1029
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: There is no handbook for life, like no one prepares

1030
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: you for when you have a child, when you buy

1031
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: a house, when you get into business. You just kind

1032
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: of figure it out on your own. But the easier

1033
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: it is to figure out on your own is all

1034
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: the people when you were young that pushed you, that

1035
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable, that prepared you for these situations. Why

1036
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: do you think all these players, whether they became stars

1037
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL or just you know, didn't really play

1038
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: much after college, spoke so highly of Nick Saban, who

1039
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: was absolutely insane to play for. Because as you age,

1040
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: as life starts coming in your thirties and your forties,

1041
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: you realize that things he taught you really really mattered.

1042
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: And unlike prospor where let's face it, it's much more

1043
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: black and white. I'll cut you'll get rid of you.

1044
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: I might become friends with you, but relationships matter less.

1045
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: We just have a goal. College like you are around

1046
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen twenty year old people that are extremely impressionable,

1047
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: and the good college coaches football and basketball, and I'm

1048
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: sure a bunch of other you know sports, but those

1049
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: sports have a lot of money and eyeballs behind it

1050
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really help, you know, a lot

1051
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: of these guys have. They've been shaped a little bit

1052
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: once they come to the program, but really put them

1053
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: in position to propel them to excel in life. I'll

1054
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: never forget being around Coach Hill at Fresno State, who

1055
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: was really intense, who would mf you, who would scream

1056
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: at you, who would ride guys. But I bet to

1057
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: a man everyone that played for the guy at Presnel

1058
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: State for thirteen plus years would say the lessons they

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Speaker 1: learned playing for him, being pushed mentally and physically put

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Speaker 1: them in position when they went into their communities, into

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Speaker 1: different you know areas throughout wherever they went to live,

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Speaker 1: raising families, working for whoever, running a company, doing whatever

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Speaker 1: they went on to do, change the course of their

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Speaker 1: life for the better. And I just think sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: the media's approval rating speaks for herself. It's never been lower.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're that relatable to a lot

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Speaker 1: of normal human beings some of these questions that get

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Speaker 1: asked like that, because I think most people, wherever you

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Speaker 1: stand in life, would be like you're questioning those two guys.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two guys that you're asking, like, is

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Speaker 1: this working? I just it just made me, It baffles me,

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Speaker 1: and you think at this point in time, like it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even come up. Maybe the guy's trying to go viral.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but if they truly like believe that's

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Speaker 1: a question that should be asked, like I question that

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Speaker 1: human being. But I also think this, like the those

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Speaker 1: of you that have been pushed throughout life and realized

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Speaker 1: early on, whether through sports, whether through just some of

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Speaker 1: the hardships in your life, the advantage you have against

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Speaker 1: the people that can't have or don't have that capability

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Speaker 1: is priceless because they have absolutely no chance, let me repeat,

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Speaker 1: no shot to compete against you. Because in life that's

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Speaker 1: outside of the court, outside of the field, whatever. Most

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Speaker 1: of us are in some sort of business, and a

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Speaker 1: huge part of business is competing your competition for consumers.

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Speaker 1: There are other people that you're going against who just

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Speaker 1: don't have that wiring and they're fucked Why Because, like

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Speaker 1: Dan Hurley said, this world's cruel and it doesn't care

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Speaker 1: about anybody. It truly doesn't, and it'll eat you alive

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Speaker 1: if you're not ready. So props to those two guys,

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Speaker 1: specifically Dan Hurley, who's just a maniac kicking ass and

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Speaker 1: clearly for a reason his shit works the volume