WEBVTT - Monogamy 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:08.840 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:29.479 These are our stories. Done done yay? Another episode of 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.720 that s Messed Up? An SVU podcast. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.000 My name is Lisa, my name is Kara, And you know, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.040 we talk about episodes of SVU. We talk about the 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.360 true crimes they're based on. Sometimes we talk to guests. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.240 Not today, but that's okay. And at the beginning we do. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.360 You'll know, you'll know what. You'll get it, you'll get 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.000 what we can't have. I guess did you see? 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.840 There was a why No No writer interview talking about 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.160 a Heather's reboot and she basically just said, well, that 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.960 ship is sale. Yeah, that's a crazy way to say. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.080 She died two months ago, Like I don't, Well. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.040 She died two months ago, yeah, Like also, but I 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.080 don't know. First of all, oh, the school shooting of 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:14.680 it all? Is that? 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.720 What? No? 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:17.080 Yeah? 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.720 But does Shannon But does Shannon Doherty's character survive? Casey, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:21.240 you would know? 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.119 No, I think all of Yeah, that's another thing, Like 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:24.560 that's the. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.000 Thing because the main Heather died like the main Heather 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.800 died really young of like some kind of cancer. So 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.920 but it's not like they would bring back the old 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.680 Heathers because unless it's. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.760 Like, well they redid that TV show. Brandon Scannell was 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.280 in it. There wasn't a TV show reboot, but it 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.760 got fucked over because of the state of the world. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.920 Yes, I watched every school. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.080 I watched every episode of it, and then I think 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.160 I had Brendan Scanell send me the episode that they 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.320 didn't air because I was like, I have to know. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:51.760 How it ends. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.120 The fashion was very like forward and fun, you know, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.559 I was, Yeah, it was a bit. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.480 It was fun. There was a boy Heather like, it 0:01:58.560 --> 0:01:58.960 was great. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.440 Well, I started watching a show on the plane I'd 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.280 like to bring up called Else Elsebeth. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.080 I just saw your story about this and was like, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.600 you haven't heard of it. I no, I've heard of it. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.760 You have what have you heard? So what are you 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.360 hear randomly heard of it? Who's in it? 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.520 Carrie Preston, Yes, yes, yes so, but it's the people. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.440 So it's it seems like it's this married couple Michelle 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.160 and something King and they run us. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.840 They basically run CBS hold on. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.200 The Yeah, they are the people that run evil the 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.160 show that me and Jeredy. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.040 Yes, yes, not only are they evil, they're the good 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:37.760 fight and they're the good wife. Mm, that's a good run. Like, yeah, 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.720 it's incredible. But anyways, so Elsbeth. It's crime but fun. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.520 You know, it's like only murders where it's like you're 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.720 not actually scared, like it's and you see who does 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.000 it in the first moment. And then she's not a cop. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.480 She comes in from Chicago to New York, and she's 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.840 so happy to be in New York. She's like so pumped, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.359 but she's annoying and her thing is she's been sent 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.919 by the Department of Justice to watch the police because 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.400 they've been misbehaving. But she is just really good at 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.000 solving the crimes and she solves them. But the guest actresses, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:15.160 I'm saying Krakowski with jam Jane Kurkowski, Retta, one of 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.200 the guys from Modern Family. I'm just saying, the guest 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.960 stars are great too. Wow, And so I don't. 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.280 Know, it sounds right in my wheelhouse. She is also 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.440 an SVU alum Carrie Preston. I love her. She's from 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.360 Claws on other Kara show. She's also married to Michael Emerson, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.400 who was an SVU alum and who is a. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.200 Star of Evil. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.840 So a lot of people running the running the CBS 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.400 world there. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:41.680 I like that. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.440 That's so it's so wild to be that there is 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.800 a show on CBS that I even like, and that 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.560 now you're proposing that there's a second one, you know 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:49.400 that I could like. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.160 Yeah, it was like a gray Airplane show. It was 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.680 a detective but it's a little like kooky, it's silly, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.600 it's but there was that. Oh, Blair Underwood is in 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.120 an episode, so a lot of view alums. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.119 And man escape the Sview alums. Yeah, my god. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.040 And one of the episode, oh my god, you're gonna 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.240 lose your mind. So one of the episodes was about 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.280 a Real Housewives franchise and there's like a murder within 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.080 the franchise. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.000 Ah, and like what are they gonna do? And then 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:16.400 I wrote it down In the. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.320 Episode two from Sex and the City, Nina Cats and 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.960 Susan Sharon are in the Real Housewives episode of Elsbeth. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.479 That's a lot. Is Nina Cats in an SVU. We 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.920 have to check. She's so love Nina Cats. I love 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.840 that actor. That's crazy. Well I got to give it 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:35.320 a shot. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.880 That's really fun. I also heard that I've been hearing 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.240 a lot of stuff. This is our fall TV round up, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.919 by the way, very informal, very impromptu, but this is 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.560 what we're doing English Teacher with Brian Jordan Alvarez on Hulu. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.000 People are saying, is really great. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.560 Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to watch check it out. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.760 I haven't watched it yet, but I'm excited too. For me, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.920 I can't wait to watch the Real Moms of Mormon TikTok. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.279 I know about a show watching. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.080 I watched Himp Crazy and I started it again and like, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.039 and then we're gonna get three housewives And I don't know. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.280 I'm just excited. Like we're in fall. Yeah, we're at 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.039 TV's back. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.480 So I'm back on. I finally finished season three of 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.640 Only Murders in the Building. I'm two episodes into the 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.200 new season, so I'm getting caught. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.080 Up on my Only Murders in the Building. They lost me, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.440 they lost they lost you. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.000 I only watched a couple of season three, and they 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:26.440 lost me. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.800 I'm I'm into it, even though I this might be controversial. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.320 I really find Selena Gomez's performance to be not good, 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.680 but I really like love the show and I love 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.680 their chemistry that they all three have with each other. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.520 It's just like it's a lot to hear her just do. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.719 That monotone all the time. She like barely ever emotes, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.359 and it's tough. Like I get that that's like the 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.560 character choice, but it's tough to listen to all the time. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.720 But I'm a big Selena fan. Don't come at me 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.600 sellinators or whatever, and I'm into the show. I'm trying 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.479 to get through that and then I want to start 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.599 this other ship. But I was going to resist Secret 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.760 Lives of Mormon Wives, and now it's just would resists 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.480 it because I you know, I try to just say housewives, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.320 you know me, I'm constantly like, uh okay, yeah, sure 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:11.880 I'll watch that one. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:12.200 I'll watch that. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.359 I haven't watched him Crazy yet, like I don't have time. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:15.760 So I was going to try to resist it. But 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.359 now it's like it's in the zeitgeist everyone. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.320 So people are saying there's a villain, like a new 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.520 reality TV villain has emerged. Is the talk on the town, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.320 Like it's like a level of evil we've never seen. Oh, well, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.960 because it is the woman that went on TikTok and 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.520 did like a TikTok dance while her baby's in the 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:38.279 incubator had RSV. So that's clearly a mental patient in 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.320 the worst way possible. I'm saying that if you're confused. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.640 But yeah, so that's who we're watching, and so I am. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.560 I'm excited to see the depths of hell. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.000 I guess. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.640 But someone was telling me she's not even the worst one, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:50.760 that there's. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.280 So many really, oh, there's an eviler. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.599 Somebody was like, oh, there's a there's a there's a 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.680 really good character or something. And I go, oh, is 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.960 it the crazy lady that did a dance in front 0:06:59.960 --> 0:07:02.279 of an incubator? And they were like, or in front 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.840 of a respirator whatever it was, And they were like, no, 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.080 she's actually got a bad life. But also the it's 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.720 another person that's the hot one. But we'll see, we'll see. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:13.840 I can't wait. I'm gonna watch. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:19.360 We did take Rosie to see Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, and and. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:20.760 She was very young. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.120 In the theater, there were other children, but I think 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:24.400 I had the youngest child. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.400 Some people were texting me being like, how was it? 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.320 Should I send my kid? I go, I don't know. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.600 I have a very specific kid. She's a very into 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.840 spooky shit. She liked it, but it is grosser than 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:35.480 the first one. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:40.400 There's a lot of gross stuff and like scary stuff 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.800 or whatever, but not anything that was like, oh my god, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.440 what a mistake. The mistake I thought was that they 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:50.120 showed this preview for a halle Berry movie about her 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.200 two sons and her living in the woods after the 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.120 apocalypse basically, and there are these creatures that are like 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.040 live out in the woods. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.320 And I had to fully like ear muff and blind. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.320 And Rosie to that one because she was like ah, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.840 And I was like, yeah, you should not be watching 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.520 this preview, like this is bad. So I but then 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.760 once you know, I think they figured it out. Who's 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.440 bringing people to the beetleje Who's bring a five year 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.120 old to beetle Juice? 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.520 I am, I am. You guys can't play those previews, but. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.360 The movie itself, she goes, I go, do you think 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.280 I should tell other people who have kids to go 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.480 to Beetlejuice Juice? She goes, well, if they have both 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.880 their parents with them, because she felt okay because she 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.720 had both of us with her. I sent Oscar off 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.200 to a playdate with his old babysitter who he's obsessed with, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.880 and she's obsessed with him, and so I was like, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.920 he's this is too much for him. But we had 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.760 a good time. We had a good time, but there 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.520 were definitely a couple of parts where I just had 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.319 to keep going. I had to go it's it's not real. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.840 You know, it's not real. This isn't real. Don't worry. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.640 And she was like okay, So it was fine. What 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.199 are her preferred snacks? 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.400 She likes Eminem's regular Eminem's and candy corn. I mean 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.959 not candy corn, popcorn. Why did I say candy corn? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.360 Oh my god, it's yours on the brain. I definite 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.560 only want to do candy corn nail this year. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.600 Ooh that's a fun idea. Yeah, that's really excited. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.760 We just went and got a blow up pumpkin guy 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.199 with a mohawk to be on our front lawn. We 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.439 like add one thing to our Halloween like decoration collection 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.720 every year, and this was this year's was a constantly 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.240 being blown up pumpkin man like. It kind of looks 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.800 like David has pumpkins with a pumpkin head and a 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.600 green mohawk. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.520 I'll send you a picture. I think they want to 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:27.800 put him up like right now. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.439 And it's been one hundred and seven degrees in La 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:31.600 every day the last five days. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.800 I'm like, I think pumpkin Man will melt, so we 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:34.320 have to wait. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.040 But like in my classic summer trend, we uh well, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.840 me and some people went to Chicago picked a hotel 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.040 with a pool on purpose seventy degrees. I mean, it's 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.280 like every time I want to. I got in there, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.000 but I shivered. I was shivering, but I forced myself in. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.200 But I'll get the I'll get the pool of my dreams. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:01.080 This week, Oh, huge news. I did go to a 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.640 Bears game. I saw that you were okay. It was 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:05.360 so good. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.240 It was so electric. It was an electric game. I mean, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.040 I lost my mind. I think my personality is going 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.000 to change this season. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.280 It was so fun. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.200 And so Jared Freed's brother is a coach on the Bears. 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.840 He's like the main and I knew it. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.560 I just didn't know that he's like the main guy 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.680 in the headset, like he's in the booth. He's the 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.199 coach of research and analysis. He's with them and like, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.280 and then his wife is a sportscaster for Chicago NBC. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.719 And then we went to a bar after and then 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:38.320 all the Chicago sports girls after they finished reporting, all 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.840 came there. So we met like the Fox girl, the 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.760 National Guard, like the sideline. My god, So it's really 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.040 they're you know, they were asking such in depth questions. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.280 It was like really fun to listen. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.600 I also liked seeing brothers in action, like how they're 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.400 tonally similar and inflections. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:53.200 Yeah, that was fun. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.680 But in terms of the game, like the best seats 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.160 we were in friends and family seats and so like 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.719 these seats are at least a thousand dollars, I mean, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.440 such good seats. The game Simone Biles has been scored, 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.679 but we were like losing by a lot and then 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.880 it was just a fucking comeback and the defensive team 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.640 is like out of this world. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.600 It was really exciting. Wow, and wait, don't say the 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:18.520 big thing happened. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.240 Also, it was also the home opener, so it's the 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.959 season opener, the home opener. The weather's nice were in Chicago. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.960 I mean I couldn't have asked, I guess instead of 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.439 the tight ends. All I could ask for is if 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:31.959 it was the Chiefs, but like, I don't even know 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.520 if they play, I don't know if they're in the 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.600 same division or you know, I don't know that stuff. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.920 Yeah, that's that. Oh. I was on the jumbo tron. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.959 So I've had this vintage Bart Simpson Bears sweatshirt for years. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.880 I've never worn it, and it was the time to 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.600 bust it out, and I got on the JumboTron and 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:50.400 it was thrilling. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:50.640 Oh. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.440 The best was I was with someone who got a 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.800 clear bag. Like they got in trouble for bringing a 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.360 big bag, so they had to buy a clear Bears 0:11:58.360 --> 0:11:59.760 bag and they put all their stuff in it. I 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.440 don't know why they brought all this to a game, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.600 but the first time we were on the JumboTron, she 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.280 was like put like pumping up her Bear's bag. The 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.200 Matthew Perry book was in the bag facing the camera, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.640 so like in the clear bag, you just see this 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:16.880 like sad book in the thing. But my sweatshirt was 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.199 such a hit. The camera man came back and said, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.679 get your sweatshirt back out. We'll get you back on 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.480 the tron. And so we got and that's when we 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.320 knew to tape ourselves because he came back like my sweatshirt, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.440 like that's all I wanted. And then I got one 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.120 compliment on the street and I'm like, that is all 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.480 I wanted. But we got to go underneath the arena, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.160 see all the player's cars, see all the family and 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.640 friends waiting, like you know, and it makes me I've 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.040 never been underneath an arena, so it makes me feel like, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.839 you know, this is what Taylor Swift does. Beyonce is 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.680 walking around there like that's where they do their concerts. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.800 So it was really I was jumping, high fiving. It 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:56.600 was like an incredible game, exciting close how fine. Yeah, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.960 it was really really fun and I hope the Bear 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.840 continue to succeed now that I have an inside stake 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.480 in all of this, you know what I mean? Watching 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.280 it with people that are related and married to a 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.000 coach is different for sure. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:10.360 Yeah. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.600 And the people you're sitting with friends and family as well, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:14.839 so you're all. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:21.720 Connected, so the intensity is fun. Yeah, that's not for chatting. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.120 That's forna. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.880 We were chatting, now, that's not it at all. No, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.559 people were having fun, I think. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.360 Okay, because that's all I do at professional sports events, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.120 and I don't know if I'm invited into the friends 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.120 and family because of that. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.440 Oh if you just sat and tried to have a 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.320 full conversation without watching the game, like, but I don't. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.280 I wouldn't want that, so I don't know who you 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:46.720 would be talking to. It's just so exciting. But it 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.920 was not strict. No one's in silence. Everyone's jumping, high fiving, screaming. Oh, like, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.920 you know, it's that's fun. Yeah, it's really that's fun. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.439 I'm glad you got to do that because football is 0:13:58.440 --> 0:13:59.120 already know with me. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.080 Oh, I also, and you know, I am a Chicago 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.120 White Sox fan, but I you know, culturally it's you know, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.760 it's like being a jew, Like I'm not religious. They 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.800 are in the running right now to be the worst 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:10.679 team in history. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.200 They have lost one hundred and ten games. Oh my god. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.920 So maybe I'll be able to throw the first pitch 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.160 next year since no one else will want to, like 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.760 I don't. I Yeah, So that was devastating, devastating Chicago news. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.480 But that is really good silver lining though, Like if 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.280 they suck enough, they'll be like okay. Local comedian Lea's 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.440 a trigger hometown hero. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.520 And at the hotel I was staying at. You're going 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.080 to be obsessed. There was a pistachio ravioli. Ooh, was 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.640 one of the best things I've ever had, and I 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:43.840 kept going back for more. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.280 It was so good. That sounds so good. Yeah. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.840 The bartender went, what our chef does with pistachio is incredible. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.200 I go that you're an allion. I want to see 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.000 that because I got a pistachio. More to Della breakfast 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:00.960 sandwich too. Ooh no, is that it really? Yeah? Nice? Hotel? 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:01.880 Cool? 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.360 Or I mean yeah, I just can't believe in my 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.480 life so many. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:11.400 Activities, activities, activities, activities, So I love that amazing. Should 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.200 we get into this, should we get into the whoors 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:14.160 of our episode? 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.320 Yeah, let's get into it really quick. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.840 We are on tour in October, guys, so come and 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:28.920 get your tickets. If you live in La San Francisco, Denver, Phoenix, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.000 San Diego, Portland, we are coming. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.040 To you new show new. Uh, you're not going to 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.040 see the same episode again. We got new. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.200 We're gonna have all kinds of new shit going on, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.080 So come by tickets. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:41.960 That's messed up. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.920 Live dot Com has all the ticket links for that. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 It also let's mess up live dot com also has 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.040 our like shop links or whatever. If you want to 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.200 shop any of our promos that we talk about, you know, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.240 go ahead, get in there and get those promo codes. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.320 They're all up there. And that's it. Yeah, let's get started. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.800 Okay, we are taking it back to the episode Monogamy, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.800 Season three, episode eleven. That is what's so cool about 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.000 SVU and this podcast, Like we've been doing it so long, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:23.640 we're almost at two hundred episodes, and we still get hits, classics, legendary. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.960 I like episodes like this. I was just gonna say, 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.000 I don't want to say. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.720 Favorite, like that seems like a weird like my favorite, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.080 but it's one of my This one is stuck with 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.800 me for like I always think about this episode. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.400 And a huge announcement. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.440 I did get a tv and this is the first 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.800 episode of SVU because even the TVU gave me an 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.320 la was amazing but small, Yes, you know what I mean. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.640 It was a small screen. It's like a sockbroker screen. Yeah. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.440 I got like a forty three inch too, which is 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.640 still small, but for New York it's like giants. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.240 Most of my little room. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.960 But watching SV on the big screen, it never felt 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.680 better to see John Ritter's big face. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.439 Sorry spoiler alert, but a spoiler should I not say that? 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.119 I don't know, but no, it's fine. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.640 I'm glad you got to watch it on in gorgeous 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:12.320 four K. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.560 And I got like a swivel mount, so I got 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.840 to sit at my desk, work on the crime and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.639 just watch it on the big screen. And so this 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.560 is my first s you know, podcast step with like 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.520 my own big love with you. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.440 Going, Lisa's going off laptop everyone. So this episode starts 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.120 so fucking classic, a classic couple with New Jersey accents fighting, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.000 and the writers are absolutely making fun of bridge and 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.040 tunnel people here. It's like Tony and Carmela light like 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.080 he's being a cheap skate. He's like, he's like, she goes, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.240 it's want money to pock an suv and. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.240 He's like, but it's twenty five bucks. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.879 That's an entire dinner in Fort Lee, like including pocking. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.480 Like and he's like, now there's gonna be traffic on 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.720 the GWB and it's like, lady, break up with this guy, 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.199 but also lol. At the two thousand and two pricing 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.520 like forty five bucks to park your HUGSUV in New York. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.760 Well that's the big king on Instagram now is like 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.119 you know, it's like gold digger fifty to fifty? What 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.199 do you bring to the table? Like that energy is 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.399 on the internet. But the good point I saw I 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.080 was like, it's not about rich or not. It's like, 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.159 are you generous and thoughtful? Like you can be with 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.480 a rich person who's cheap as fuck and controlling and 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.480 it doesn't matter that he's rich, you know what I mean? 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.880 Like yeah, like this guy was like, you're the one 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.560 that wanted to come into the city for like what 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.879 for a culture? Like he doesn't like it, and she's like, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.359 shut the fuck up, like you're all pissed about parking 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.960 it's forty five bucks, And the woman's like, Kevin, the 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.080 door is all wet. And then he grabs the tip money, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.640 speaking of not generous and nice to service people, grabs 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.800 the tip money back from the garage attendant and goes, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.840 what did you get in my car? And then meanwhile 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.080 the girl comes around from the other side and when 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.320 her hands get into the light of the headlights, done done. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.600 They're covered in blood. So a good opening. We get 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.040 to now the cops have set up a perimeter. Stabler 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.760 speeds up. Benson says that was quick from Queen's and 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.399 Stabler goes, I stayed in the city tonight. And I'm like, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.840 I don't think Stabler has a Manhattan crash pad, Like, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.560 what's going on? That's like a weird I've never heard 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.040 of him really staying over in the city, Like with 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:08.640 who does he have a brother that lives there? 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.320 Like, what's going on? 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.040 We find out about his brothers later in the OC, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.919 but I don't know that they live in Manhattan. Benson 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.240 and Stabler get a download of the situation from a 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.440 UNI who's like, we found her on the second level. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.480 She was naked from the waist down. Her name is 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:21.560 Nicole Manning. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.560 No robbery, uh cash sixty dollars cash in her wallet. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.480 She's alive, but it's a real mess. She was bashed 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.480 in the head. Benson's like, I'll ride with the victim, obviously. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.919 The UNI keeps talking to Stabler, says the blood at 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.320 the scene indicated that she was attacked minutes before she 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.800 was found, and Stabler goes, how many stab wounds? And 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.800 the UNI pauses and looks at Stabler and goes, she 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.239 wasn't stab Detective. And in the ambulance, the EMTs are 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.120 trying to keep Nicole alive. Benson asks did you get 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.200 a look at the guy? And then Nicole starts seizing 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.520 and I look up one of the EMTs because I 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.120 thought I knew him. He kind of had like an 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.840 E vibe from Entourage. Who By the way, I went 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.879 into a gay bar recently that was completely empty in 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.160 the middle of the day and E was standing the 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.480 and then he and then this other weird guy was 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.199 there and he leaves and he goes, did you just 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:07.840 see him leave? 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.280 And I go who? And he was like that was 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:11.880 E from Entourage and I go cool. 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.240 He's like I wanted to buy him a drink and 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.240 I was like, okay, well you were being weird and 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:15.600 so he. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.639 Left, like anyway, it was a fun little la moment. 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.480 So, oh, I love this guy. I didn't watch Entourage 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.040 Eric Murphy, I don't know. Yeah, I like him. He 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.800 was it's not him, Yeah, Oh, it wasn't him. 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:28.360 It's not him. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.280 He was just giving me that vibe of Eric. And 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:31.840 so I look him up and I'm like, who is 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.320 this guy? That guy's not no, but he was in 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:34.680 the bar. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.920 Yes, he was in the bar. I like him from 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:39.480 he's just not. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.119 That into you, ah right, right right, And he's like 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.360 a sweet guy in that one. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.119 Yes, yes, yes, he's pretty. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.040 I would say he's a pretty decent character for Entourage, 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.680 you know. But so I look up both EMTs because 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:54.960 first I look up the guy I think I know, 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.840 and he's nobody. And then the other one is named 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.440 Derek Kelly. He's been an EMT in a bunch of episodes, 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:04.120 and guess he's Molly Price aka Susan Sharon, who has 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.080 been on an SVU as the abusive parole officer imparole Violations. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:13.320 I was like, this is crazy, Like I delete IMDb connections. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.320 It's my favorite. Holy shit. Yeah, she's married to this guy, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:17.960 Derreck Kelly. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:23.080 So anyway, the EMTs explained that she has massive abdominal 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.600 trauma and it looks like an emergency C section. 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.400 Live is like she was pregnant. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.920 She's shocked, and then Nicole codes and it's like, what's 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.400 going to happen? Back to Stabler asking is there any 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.520 side of the baby? And the UNI goes the sick 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.560 SOB must have taken it with him, So here we 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.800 go credits. That's a wild opening. A woman in a 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.240 parking garage. There's blood all over this random Jersey couples 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.200 SVSUV and then I almost said us for you, And 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.560 then a baby has been ripped out of woman's body. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.199 At the hospital, the doctor's filling in Benson that the 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.200 cut was made with a dull or serrated blade. Ooh, 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.120 head trauma contusions around the abdomen, like she was kicked. 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.120 Rape kid is positive for fluids. It's not looking good. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.879 She developed an amniotic embolism, like clots in her lungs 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.120 caught off oxygen to the brain. He explains to her 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.480 that the baby could actually be alive, like she was 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.320 twenty eight weeks so long, which is, you know, seven months, 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.200 so no apparent complications. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.200 Normal. Wait, it's possible the baby's alive, but not for long. 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.560 So now Stabler is talking to the parking attendant and 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.040 he's like, yeah, she was by herself. I didn't think 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.000 to go with her because this is a safe neighborhood. 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.320 Missus Manning's a monthly customer, so she always gets her 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.159 own car. I would have checked if I heard a 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.720 scream or anything like that, but there is another exit 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.160 entrance like on the other side. 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:41.480 So now Craigan is with. 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.040 At the hospital with live they spot the husband of 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.680 the victim and Lisa already told us it is John Ritter, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:51.240 a huge star, a treasure I am, like, I really 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.000 really love him. He was the star of Three's Company 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.800 Eight Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter. He died 0:22:57.840 --> 0:22:59.800 at fifty four years old of a heart attack in 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.320 two thousand and three, like really really and like I 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.840 was okay. So in two thousand and four, I was 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.720 watched Wait No, when did I start at the Page program? 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.879 Two thousand and five. I was a page in two 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.439 thousand and five, and I had a cube in my 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.359 desk when I worked at the USA Network, and I 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.800 watched The Cosby Show and ate Simple Rules for Dating 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.639 My Teenage Daughter all day long while I did my work, 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.119 and I watched the episode where his character dies of 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.480 eight Simple Rules. He's married to Katie sagal can'ty Quoco 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.520 was one of his daughters, and I cried so hard. Anyway, 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.040 He's the father of Jason Ritter, who is in the 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:40.000 episode Dominance, another SVU alum, and he's married to Melanielinsky. 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.800 And then he's also the father of Tyler Ritter, who 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.840 was in a Carvana commercial with me, so equally distinguished 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:46.440 careers the Two Riders. 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.639 By the way, yesterday I got a text from our 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.159 friend from Atlanta and he sent me the photo of 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.919 you from Kravana. 0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.080 Wait, text it to me. I'll put it on the 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.800 Instagram for the for the listeners. Yeah, he reins. 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.080 In the commercial they were cut and so instead it's 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.640 just a lot of focusing on my facial expressions. 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.000 Yeah, he wrote, I'd like to bring this back please. 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:14.280 I'm like, honey, don't I know it? Well, I just 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.200 try saving it, and it said do you want to 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.119 save a duplicate? So I already saved it. 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.120 Yeah, I will post it the day this episode comes 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:26.280 out in the mention at all section of our Instagram 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:31.840 stories highlights. Anyway, I just like fucking love John Ritter huge, 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.200 like up, Phil Hartman, John Ritter, Chris Farley. 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.200 All these people that we just lost to way. 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.440 Too young, and I love him anyway lives like, well, 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.760 we can't rule out this dude, because whoever did this 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.520 was personal. So now John Ritter is in a dark 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.439 room giving them info and they his name is Richard. 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.560 In this episode, Richard was supposed to meet his wife 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.560 Nicole for dinner at seven, and she's usually lates. He 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.400 didn't think much of it when she wasn't there yet. 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.200 Before that, he was in a session with a patient. 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.199 He's a psychiatrist with a practice. Add Down lives like 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.360 there's no easy way to ask this, were you intimate 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.119 with your wife in the past twenty four hours? And 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.439 he's like, no, why, and lives like, well, she may 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.479 have been assaulted. And he asks, and they ask him 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.600 for a blood sample, which she agrees to without question, 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.520 like anything you need. Craigan says, what did you do 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.200 when she didn't show up? And he goes, I tried 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.959 calling her a couple of times, and then after an 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.520 hour I went home. How long would you wait for 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:24.840 somebody at dinner if they were not showing up, not 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.960 answering text not answering calls, How long would you wait? 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.920 Well, it's not even about waiting. I would already be 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:30.480 flipping out. 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.679 I'd be texting other people, I'd be calling like, I 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.280 would be searching. I'd probably go to someone's you know 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.439 what I mean, Like I would be panicking immediately. 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.920 Yeah, like they just did. 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:42.560 Not that it's the same thing, but they just did 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.480 an episode of Dubai, which I know you're not watching. 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.840 Real House was a Dubai but like one girl just 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.760 doesn't show up for the flight to Dubai and she's 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.600 not answering her phone, and no one's like no one, 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.240 I mean not the flight to Dubai, the flight to 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.399 Bali or some shit, and like they just they're like, 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:56.879 where is she? 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:57.679 No one could reach her. 0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.880 She's not answering text, she's not answering calls, and they're 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:01.600 all they're like kind of freaking out, but they're still 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:05.199 taping a reality show. She does eventually show up, but 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:06.960 you know, and she was just kind of doing it 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:07.880 for attention, I think. 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:09.879 But I yeah, I was like I was like, I 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:10.640 wonder how long. 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.359 But I could also see myself pulling out Julia Louis 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.360 Dreyfus and like still ordering something. 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.800 To go, like the djub's fruits or whatever. 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:24.040 But no, I would already start messaging, figuring stuff out, 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:28.439 calling hospitals. Yeah, like I would be pretty flipped, but 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.200 I don't know how long I would sit and Wai. 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.000 I'd probably eat by myself, Like I wouldn't mind eating 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.040 by myself, you know, right, right right, I'm not gonna 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:41.080 cook dinner instead, So sure, yeah, I just went home 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.200 and fired up the skillet. 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:46.440 No, no, of course, like I might still just order. Yeah. 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.520 Anyway, he says he went home and they're like, do 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:51.919 you know anyone who would want to hurt her? And 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.560 he's like, no, Nicole was a good person. He talked 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.520 about her in past tense. She's not dead. 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:57.880 Then he catches. 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.199 Himself and goes, she is a good person. I mean, 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.719 the doctors say there's still a chance she'll recover. Benson 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.679 and Craigan share a look. I think that's like a 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.800 full red flag, Like if somebody's like, oh my god, 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.080 I loved him. He was so great, it's like, bitch, 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.920 he's not dead yet, you know. So back at the garage, 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.159 a Uni is telling Munch that there are tons of 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.959 prints on the car. We just got to rule out victim, 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.240 friends and family, every valet in the city. 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:21.639 Like this is not looking great. 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.879 But the car is also for sale, which means she 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.680 might have been having people test drive it. So Finn 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.119 wants to know if there are any sides of the baby. 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.800 No placenta, no cord, there's nothing. The purp also cleaned 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.840 up before he left, using antibacterial hand webs, which means 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:36.920 he planned ahead, like. 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.000 He knew he was going to do this. 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.680 Maybe the baby was the reason for the attack, like 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.680 he didn't want her debt, he wanted her to suffer. 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.879 Back at the precinct, Benson and Sabler are giving in 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.920 photo deity Kragan and the credit card receipt confirms that 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.600 he was at the restaurant having a drink. Sell a 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.800 phone confirms that he made these calls checking on where 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.880 she was. The rape kit rules them out because it's 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.879 a different blood type, but they got one set of 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.960 prints off the car and it was Kyle Novacheck, and 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.160 he's not a complete lunatic, but he did do time 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.280 for assault three and heroin possession, they say, And Finn's like, yeah, 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.159 you don't really see that kind of violence with heroin 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.600 users unless someone gives him a hot shot and then PCP. 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:15.800 I'm like, yeah, that doesn't sound like the kind of 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.320 person who's also going to be cleaning it up with 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.600 antibacterial wipes. But okay, but wow, the writers and directors 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:27.480 of Workaholics is Kyle knuacheck, Oh, if. 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.240 You like that, I'm not alcoholics curly. 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.080 But yeah, turns out Nicole is an RN at a 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.560 meth clinic, so they're like that can't be a coincidence. 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.280 And then just then Maureen's stabler shows up and she 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720 looks kind of pissed and needs to talk to her dad. 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.960 Craigan's like, you can use my office. Benson goes, okay, 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.840 well I'm going to hit the clinic. So far, there's 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.360 no sign of the baby, and it's been about twenty seconds, 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.560 so obviously Stabler and Marine are already done with their 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.600 conversation and coming out, and Liv is trying to small 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.960 talk Marine and she's giving very short answers, and then 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.160 Stabler's like, you're going to be late, and he's like, 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.920 please leave so I can fight crime and forget that 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.600 I'm a dad. And then Liv asks is everything okay? 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.000 And Stabler goes yeah and just moves on. So he 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.840 obviously doesn't want to talk about its food. 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.880 Stabler Private Stabler the most annoying, like just tell your partner, 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.040 what's that's the thing, when like, I obviously I saw 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:16.440 this online. 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:17.560 Where else would I see things? 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.280 But how men think they don't have emotions or like 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.360 they deal like, oh, we don't talk about you know, 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.080 we don't bother other people's our emotions, Like we we 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.200 suffer in silence, That's what it was like. Yeah, men 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.320 always say like how they suffer in silence, and it's like, well, 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.600 why don't you ask the people around you? 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:33.440 Yeah? 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.240 How silent you're suffering is because I'm sure it's coming 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.800 out in other psychotic ways. Yeah, like are you I 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.160 don't know, slamming the door? 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:41.720 You know what I mean? 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.760 Like, yeah, these little things, So it's stabler. It's like 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.200 you're if you truly were able, like no one could 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.360 see that you're struggling, that's fine, but you were bothering everybody. 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.680 You're annoying? Yes, get it? 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.800 Tell us what Maureen said? Is she getting an abortion? 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.480 What is happening? Was like I couldn't even remember this episode, 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:01.080 was like what did you do? 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.160 What? I still don't know? And I watched it, like 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.440 I just watched it. Well, I'll tell you it's not that, 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:07.920 it's not that important. I'll get to it. 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.040 At a construction site, Munch and Finn are talking to 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.320 Kyle Novachek and it's the one and only Bobby count 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.000 of All. I mean, I you know him from A 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.760 Million Things married married to Rose Byrne. I would say 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.760 Funky Tasting Spunk is, oh yeah, highlight. Okay, Tasting Spunk 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.560 is for sure a highlight. He was also just in 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.680 that show Homecoming that I watched on Amazon with Julia Roberts. 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:32.479 He's very freaky in that. 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.959 I really liked him in Blue Jazz Main Oh yeah, 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:38.920 I mean his credits. 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.560 Oh ah wait how many episodes too? Okay, I'm like 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.680 I don't remember him, which is crazy because he's so hot. 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.360 I just yeah, I've been into him for a while, 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.040 but I bet it's just because of Funky Tasting Spunk. 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.680 Yeah yeah, yeah, shah we dance. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.720 I even feel like when I saw him in Funky 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.960 Tasting Spunk, I was like, I've seen that guy before, 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.720 Like I don't know his name, but I've seen him before, 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.480 you know. And then I actually I'm up saying I 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.000 loved I saw him interviewed live on my friend's show 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.400 at Joe's Pub once, and he seems like a great guy, 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.640 but he is like, what's with you? 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.520 You cops? This is the third time this year. I 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.240 always on your list and they're like, oh, Boardwalk Empire 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.760 and that's jacky oh. 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.240 But in Nurse Jackie, he's on just like a season. 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.840 He's got an all out, but he's not Yeah yeah, okay. 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.960 He says he's clean, he's working stead, he's out of 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.400 that life. They want to know where were you the 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.160 other night? He goes, I was at work till six. 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.440 Then I take a class at Brooklyn College at night 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.520 and it starts at seven and Munch goes a man 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.200 of intellect and he's being rude for sure, and they're like, 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.200 what about your car? He goes, I don't have a car. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.560 My car died last week. It's like hilarious, Like no 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.120 one in New York I feel like has a car. 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.160 And they're like, tell us about your car? And they 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.920 ask you see have you seen a gold car that 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.640 was on sale a couple a couple of blocks away. 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:52.840 He goes, yeah, he went and took it for a 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.720 test drive. Whired something happened to that lady or whatever? 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.000 He asks, how is your program going? Sometimes they don't 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.840 give you a up methodone. They're bullying him. Do you 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:01.600 even remember where. 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.000 You were last night? Or were you two loaded? 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.840 He's like, I saw the car once I haven't been back. 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.960 Vinn grabs him and goes, where's the baby. Kyle's confused. 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.480 He's like, you're telling me somebody hurt that baby. They 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.280 go take a DNA test and we'll leave you alone, 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:15.680 and he goes, I don't have to do that, and 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.000 Finn goes, you sound guilty, but Kyle's like, no, I 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.000 just know how you guys operate. If you had anything 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.479 on my ass, i'd be in the back of your 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.200 car already. And then they know he's right, so they 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.440 leave and they're like, we'll see you again. So now 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.840 we're at the method oone clinic and a supervisor is 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.680 telling Benson and Stabler, you know I can't give out 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.880 client names. If I did that to the if I 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.440 gave out client names to the police, no one would 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.200 ever come into this clinic. And Stabler's like, well, you 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.240 want to see you know. He tries that whole tactic 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.360 of like you want to see videos of you want 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.480 to see photos of this woman with her stomach cut open, 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.280 and Olivia is pleading, like please, this baby could be alive. 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.240 We're running out of time. She's like, I cannot help you. 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.680 She says clients can be troublesome but not overtly violent. 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.440 Someone they have been having problems with is another nurse 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.960 named Aaron Senna. Nicole discovered she'd been diverting meth for herself, 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.000 so she was arrested and she lost her job. 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.920 And her nursing license. So knock, knock, knock. 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.080 They're at Aaron's place, and she and her place are 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.440 a hot mess. You know, there's takeout containers everywhere. And 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.240 this actress is named Mary Anne Hagen and she plays 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.720 the mother of the girl who goes missing and pure, 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.600 you know, she's like making her daughter's like yeah dress, 0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.520 and he's like, I've got your daughter and she's sweet 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.920 or whatever. Martin short, that's the mom who's making the dress. 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:27.760 So she's the one that's like, help me find my daughter. 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.520 So anyway, a fun little connect. Aaron is smoking a 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.360 sig flirting with Stabler, being like your friend can watch, 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:35.959 And then they sit her down and they ask her 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.960 about Nicole, and Stabler suggests, like, where's your boyfriend? Maybe 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.880 your boyfriend did this, he went nuts and killed Nicole, 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.400 and she keeps being like, I don't have a boyfriend. 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.840 Benson wanders into a room and she wants. She's like, 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.560 I want you guys to leave, and then it's clearly 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.200 a kid's room. They're like, do you have a kid? 0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.240 She's like, I have a sum. They took them away 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.680 from me, the social services and the cops, and she's 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.080 like itching her arms like she definitely is high. She's 0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.520 on drugs. And they're like, so this woman took everything 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.440 from you and now she's having her own baby. And 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.880 Aaron's like, get out, and Stabler's like, if you're still using, 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:05.440 and I can tell that you are, they're not going 0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:06.920 to give their baby back to it. They're not going 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.759 to give your kid back to a junkie, you know, 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.560 like let us like this baby needs to be in 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:12.040 the hospital. 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:13.759 Tell us what happened to the baby, will help you. 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.839 And Aaron's lading her second cigarette of the minute, and 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.319 she's like, you can't help me. Nicole pissed off the 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.520 wrong person, and look at what happened to her, and 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.759 she says she doesn't know who Nicole pissed off, but 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.480 lives like I think you do, and she goes, all 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.600 I know is Nicole got asked for it and got 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.400 what she deserved. I had nothing to do with it. 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.920 Now get out, Okay, they just do. Benson and Sabler 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.120 are leaving in the hallway. They're like, someone scared Aaron 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.560 to shut her up. Stabler gots a call on his 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.280 massive flip phone and they're off in an alley. Craigan 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.600 is there telling the you needs to take an unhoused 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.080 man to a shelter and get him some food. I'm 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.319 getting an ominous feeling that we're gonna find something we 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.040 don't like here in this alley. Whenever an unhoused person 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.600 just wanders upon something, it's not like it's usually, Oh, 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.520 it's a diamond necklace that we needed, Craigan said, this 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.760 guy reported it but didn't see anybody around the dumpster. 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.960 Melinda comes up some stuff holding a tiny body wrapped 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.000 in a white sheet. Live is like, are we positive 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.400 it's Nicole's? And Melinda goes, it's the right size and 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.840 deep decomp fits the time frame and you got to 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.280 give it to Tim Ratuni like Melinda's like pretty stone faced. 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.320 She's like, right time frames fits the de comp anyway, 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.880 and then she goes sorry, detectives, and then Stable goes, 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.680 what was it? Because gender is so important to him? 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.760 And Melinda goes, it was a little boy. Worse worse 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.839 for Stabler that had it, you know whatever. I guess 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.560 he's got daughters too. At the hospital, Richard is buying 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.759 Nicole's bedside. She's on a ventilator, she's bandaged up, she's 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.840 not looking great. She's gotten all the way around the 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.520 head bandage. Alisa fave. But I would say not in 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.600 this situation because she's not alive, or she's not she's alive, 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.799 but she's not, you know, with it. 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.080 Not cute, it's just silly. It's not like your head. Yeah, 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:50.960 oh are you gonna make it? 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:51.680 Yeah? 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.719 Yeah, She's hanging on for dear life. He's sad and 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.560 he's like, what do I do? Do I have to 0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.359 get a birth certificate first or what? 0:35:58.800 --> 0:35:59.040 You know? 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.279 Lives like you chill for right now? We still have 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.200 to investigate. And he's like, I just want to take 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.239 care of things before Nicole wakes up. And then they 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.399 float Aaron's name to him, like you know anything about 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.080 this sketch ball Aaron that she worked with, and he goes, oh, yeah, 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.680 she tried to get Nicole to testify on her behalfits 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.480 I'm hearing the state was trying to take away her son, Like, 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.359 why would the woman who reported you for diverting meth 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.920 testify for you and your child and your custody hearing anyway, 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.959 she screamed at our answering machine a few times. He said, 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.680 I wanted to call the cops, but Nicole. 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:30.560 Said it wasn't necessary. 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.960 They asked, how's Nicole doing, and he says, well, the 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.600 doctors gave her a hysterectomy. How do I tell her 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.280 that we'll never have a family, which is very small minded. 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.040 There are a lot of ways to become a family, 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.960 although it is sad that she if that was her wish, 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.000 that she cannot have biological children. Now we're at Melinda's 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.319 house and she's walking them through the skull fractures on 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:52.040 the baby's X rays. Like, oh, Like cause of death 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.839 was a subdiral hematoma caused by multiple blows. 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:54.959 To the head. 0:36:55.280 --> 0:37:00.440 Jesus, Like, I just think there's probably more humane ways 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.840 to do that. But okay, she said, whoever did this 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.799 did not want this baby to live. Thinn's Like could 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.320 the beating have been from Nicole getting kicked in the abdomen? Like? 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:11.880 Could have it had happened in uterol? 0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.839 She says, there's kind of no way to tell if 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.080 the injuries happened in her ex utero, but once the 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.799 fetus was aborted, there was no attempt made to save it. 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.479 She's still trying to determine how long it lived. Munch says, 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.719 if there's a god, not long. So Now in the 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.920 squad room, Craigan says, well, Kyle's alibi cleared him, So 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.000 Aaron is our only suspect. We've got to find the 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.000 man who helped her because they're yeah, they're just kind 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.759 of like, there's no way this was a woman, even 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.120 though I think we've seen women commit horrible crimes like this. 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.400 And Stabler says, maybe they can get aerin on a 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.040 probation violation. She was clearly high when we spoke to her, 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.080 so let's get her in here for a drug test. 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.920 You know, she's a client at her old Methodonne clinic, 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.759 they say, And I'm like, wouldn't you find another one? 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:50.960 Like when you be like this is a little too 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.880 close to home, I'm not going to come to this one. 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.799 You know, I love being a regular, So I get it. Yeah, 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.120 I get wanting to pat. 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.960 You're like the freebies, Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally Finn says, 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.919 that's an appointment a heroin addicts always got to keep. 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.520 So if she's gonna get like, let's wait for her 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:07.520 at them. That's the Nome clinic. 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.359 So Benson and Stable are staked out in the car 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.759 in front of the clinic. And this is usually when 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.600 we get these some personal combo between the two of them. 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:17.600 You know, they spend. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.040 Hours together in a fucking car and lives like, oh, 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.480 maybe we missed her, and stablers like, nah, she's coming, 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.120 you want to leave? Go ahead, like he's being a dick, 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.520 and Benson goes, or you could just stop being a 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.480 jerk and tell me what the hell's going on with you? 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.880 And she's and he scowls, and she goes, is this 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.840 about Maureen? And he admits that he fucked up and 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.759 he didn't send in a check for the Columbia application, 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.440 which is weird because the application and the check just 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.239 go together. But what, you know, whatever, like he did 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.799 something fucked up and lives like, well, is it too late? 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.160 And he goes, I don't know. 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.160 It's like, are you even trying, like pick up the 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.560 phone and make a phone call, like I know we're 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.399 looking for this dead baby, but this feels like something 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.280 you could take care of for your daughter in ten minutes. 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.520 Call the admissions office, give him a credit number over 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.279 the phone, you weirdo, Like such a. 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:03.240 Not big deal. 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.680 Yeah, I mean if it means she doesn't get to go. 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.440 Attitude, you can fuck it. He's a cop, he could pull. 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.920 Some strings in New York City, I know, I know, 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.360 and go, oh yeah, lives like cut the shit. 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.080 What is this? Like why are you acting like this? 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.799 And he's like, I've been distracted, And then Aaron shows up, 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.400 So we don't get to any more deep you know, 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.960 we don't get to any more psychology of what's going 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.920 on with asshole Stabler in this episode. So Aaron shows up, 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.160 they grab her. Okay, she obviously tests positive. 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.680 For mather heroin or whatever she's on. 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.799 She's like, arrest me and they're like they're just like 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.680 fucking with her. They're like, yeah, well we got twenty 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.719 four hours or forty eight hours to do that, and like, 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.160 you know, she's obviously jonesing and has it needs like 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.759 methadone or her fix or whatever. So they asked what 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.600 happened to her face? She has a huge shier and 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.120 she goes I got hit, so she asked for a 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.120 soda and they say, just tell us what you've been hiding, 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.120 and she's like, no way. 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:56.920 They're like, you're perfect for this. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.520 You're a trained nurse with a grudge against Nicole, like 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:03.239 you could easily perform this operation. And Aaron maintains I 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.080 had nothing to do with this, and then she goes 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.440 she has everything, and she comes after me and then 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:09.680 they start badgering her more. 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.520 Who are you hiding from? Who are you hiding from? 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:16.000 She finally says Kyle, and then they go Kyle novachk 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:20.360 is your boyfriend, and she goes hers Nicole's boyfriend. 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:24.400 Done. Done. So this is a good twist, much Finn. 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:29.440 Yeah, Munch and Finn show up because, you know, whatever 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.799 the show is all about stereotypes, like this woman is 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.680 married to a psychiatrist. She's parking a monthly customer in 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.160 a garage that's not cheap. You know, you can make 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.719 a little connect the dots. You don't necessarily think that 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.920 this woman's having an affair with a construction worker who 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.480 has a record, you know, but she was. 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.560 So Finn and Munch show up to Kyle's apartment. 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.399 They're like, we're taking you in for a DNA test 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.080 to prove you raped her, and he goes, it's gonna 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.359 be positive. Nicole and I made love that afternoon, and 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.920 then they accuse him of killing the baby, and he 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.160 says it was mine. 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.440 Would I do that to my own child? It's like, 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:01.920 I don't know you. 0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.759 You don't watch the show. A lot of people do 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:05.759 this to their own child. They do a lot of 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.399 fucked up stuff to their own child. So yes, many 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.560 men do do that. So now it's a walk and 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.880 talk with the whole gang. Finn is wildly in a 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.480 very long tan blazer that he has buttoned up. This 0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.640 is like before he adopted like the leather jacket aesthetic 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.319 that we know him for today. It's like he's not 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.839 quite in his steampunk from season two, but season three 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.680 he's still in some weird ass outfits. Stabler's like, it's 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.520 possible Kyle killed the baby because Nicole wouldn't leave her husband, 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.680 and then Munch is like, yeah, or the husband could 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.360 have done it. And Kyle told them he thought Richard 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.600 was catching on to the affair, so they're like, oh, interesting, 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.800 he didn't mention that to us, so either he didn't 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:42.479 know or he didn't want the cops to. 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.200 Know that he knew. 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.640 Classic Kragan. I love when he does this, ask the 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.080 wife she just woke up. So I love when we 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.480 get a miraculous awakening from a coma just in time 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.160 for information in the hospital talking to Nicole. And She 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.560 is played by a woman named Trisha Paoluccio, who has 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.040 been in six episodes of SVU. She was actually in 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.080 a season one episode, she was in a season three, 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.040 a season sixteen, and in season twenty five. She's been 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.080 recurring as doctor Heather Lentz in three different episodes. So 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.160 maybe we'll see her in season twenty six because she 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.680 just was in three EPs of twenty five. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.880 I have something to say. 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.600 They don't look like they would be together, this actress 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.360 and Jan Ritter and John Ridder. 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.000 Like it doesn't make sense to me. 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.000 Like when she's next to Bobby kind of volley, I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.359 well she's next to him. 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:32.840 I'm like, how did you even meet? 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.399 It's kind of like the Bob Saggat dork situation where 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:37.800 I'm like, what with this dancer? 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.120 I don't dancer? Yeah? 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.360 Yeah, But you're like maybe there was a point in 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.240 her life where she was like, oh, this will be safe. 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.680 This guy has money, he's nice to me, and then 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.160 you meet this like hot construction worker and you're like, okay, 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.319 this is actually much better. But all Nicole remembers is 0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.719 someone hitting her on the back of the head. And 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.800 then they ask her about Kyle and she's like, well, 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.200 like the first person and only person maybe in SVU 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.360 history to go, yeah, you guys probably already know everything. Like, 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.520 she doesn't lie, she doesn't try to pull one over 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:08.920 on the cops. She's like, well, it sounds like you 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.880 guys pretty much know what's up. And she's like, you know, 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.839 I've been seeing Kyle for a year and I saw 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.120 him the afternoon of the attack, which you know, confirms 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.760 what Kyle said. She says Kyle wanted to get married. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.640 She said she would do that, but then things change 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.840 when you're pregnant. It's about safety for the baby and 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.840 not what makes you happy. So she also says she 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.160 told Richard she was leaving him and that the baby 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.400 wasn't his. So I'm confused about what things she was 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.000 going to do, because she's kind of telling the cops 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.080 that she was going to do both things, you know, like, oh, 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.040 I obviously want to fuck Kyle, but he's not the 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.040 best dad figure. But then she tells her husband, I'm 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.440 leaving you, so whatever. She thought he was going to 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.239 be mad, but when she told him, he was super calm. 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.680 Red flag Oh, bad, bad bad. 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.600 So then Lib says, well, he said he was meeting 0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.919 you at seven did he know you were running late? 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.560 And she goes, no, I was meeting him at seven thirty, 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.480 and she sure remembers a lot for a massive head 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.000 trauma that has it all the way around the back. 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.920 Well, yeah, because I was gonna say maybe like debating 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.279 like is Kyle gonna be a good dad ball bloah, 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.799 But also if you're cheating on someone's like you don't 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.280 want to be with this guy, like whether he's always 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.120 in the kid or not or whatever. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:17.000 Like right right for him. 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.360 But now he was thinking maybe it could have been 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.600 head trauma stuff, but she seems on it. 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.279 Yeah, she remembers exactly when they were supposed to meet. 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.080 She's like, no, I was meeting him at seven thirty, 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:31.240 and so that half hour discrepancy is huge. The music swells, 0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.000 people are exchanging looks, done, done, Okay. So now at 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.160 top of act three, the whole gang plus Cabot plus 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.880 Wang glorious moment. They're all gathered around the board and 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:44.280 Cabot's like, why wasn't the husband a suspect from the jump? 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.719 And Stablers like because of the evidence, Like he's still 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.960 being like a little like a little sour puss, and 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.360 Munch is like, well, he's a shrink, this guy, so 0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.280 he knows how to mess with your head, and Huang ads, 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.400 Plus he did four years of medical school to be 0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.400 a psychiatrist, like you do go to medical school, and 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.759 he would have also had a one year meta internship 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.120 so he would know how to do a crude sea section. 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.080 There is a receipt of him having a drink at 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.960 the restaurant bar at six point fifty nine, and the 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.640 bartender remembers him but didn't see him leave, So they're 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.440 going to check a cell phone and see where he 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.480 was when he made the like where are you at? 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:18.400 Sweetheart? Calls? 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.120 Right, So she got to the garage at seven twenty, 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.800 So they think that Richard set it up on purpose 0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.440 so that he could set up his alibi and then 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.000 rush over to attack her at the garage, knowing exactly 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.359 when she would get to the garage because he knows 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.600 where she has a monthly parking spot, right, so he's 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.359 got an hour then to cross the park, attack her, 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:40.240 clean up, and head home. And Craigan's like all because 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.839 his wife was carrying another man's child. And then Huong goes, yeah, 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.160 he was cuckolded, and it's like, yeah, this guy got 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:47.400 so cooked. 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:51.080 This little cook had to get go murdering people. 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.040 Huang says, it's it's common, like you see it in nature. 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.960 The females seek out the most desirable males, and most 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.440 species aren't naturally monogamous. And Munch is like, that explained 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.440 my entire marital history. I love that, but I'm bum, 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.480 you know. And then Stabler goes, cut the jokes. We 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.560 got a dead baby here, and it's like, why don't 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.279 you cut the shit, Stabler? We need these jokes. If 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:13.959 you don't, if you don't laugh a little bit at Svu, 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:14.840 all you do is cry. 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.359 But I wants to do how Munch handled it like 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:22.560 truly a therapized king, Like yeah, he doesn't take it personal, 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.600 he doesn't say anything back, he doesn't attack, He just 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.320 is like in his space. 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:28.880 It's like like okay, weird. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:33.880 Like yeah, he his eyebrows like all right, pissy pissy pants, 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.200 Like I could almost emunch, going, what is it your 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.160 time of the month, you know, like it's some kind 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.080 of old joke like that, And so everyone looks awkward 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.120 for a second, like, yeah, no one knows what's up 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.680 Mary's ass right now? And then Huang explains the problem 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.040 in his mind was the baby, not the wife. Get 0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:53.000 rid of the baby, Get rid of the problem, Craigan says, 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:55.200 start with a warrant for the cell phone company. And 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.440 this is like always gives me serial vibes, you know, 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.640 like because like I phones don't have GPS, you can't 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.880 tell exactly where they were, but it's all towers. So 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.520 like everything with the ceial case was like where cell 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.240 phone calls were hanging off towers. 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.080 And I'm it's very fascinating to me. 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.160 So at the elevator before we get to the cell 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.359 phone company, Live catches up with Stablert. She goes, Hey, 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.680 we're all on your side, but we can't read minds 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.840 to know what's going on between that huge ass forehead 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.480 of yours, So why don't you just tell us, like, 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.239 you know, if you're not gonna say what's up, there's 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.480 not much else we can do, okay, bitch, And then 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.440 he goes up to her and he goes, I know 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.839 you were on my side and she asks, okay, so 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:32.799 what the fuck is up with you? Is there someone else? 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.880 And he goes, nah nah, Like he's like, if I 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:37.400 wish it were that, if it would be almost more 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.840 simple if it was that, and then he goes it 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.000 just never goes away. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.560 Each case is more horrific than the last. I go home, 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:45.840 What am I supposed to do? Talk about work? Honey? 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.880 Today a guy caught a baby out of his wife's stomach, 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.600 passed the gravy please, and lives like, so you just 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.320 don't talk at all then, and it's like hmm therapy, 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.279 and Kathy thinks he's shutting her out and he's like, 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.239 I just can't put all my work stuff on her, 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.799 and Liv goes, yeah, bitch a shutting her out. 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:01.920 That's literally your mo. 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.360 You keep this up, and you're going to ruin the 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.279 best thing you ever had. And she walks away from 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.000 him and he just sits there looking dumb. 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:09.120 So I like this. 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.920 I think at this point nobody is standing, no one 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.959 is shipping them yet. At this point, Liv is only 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.160 cares about him as a partner. There is no I 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.200 think sparked between them and he is she is just like, 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.120 stop being a fucking man. Talk to your wife about 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:28.400 your problems. So at the cell phone company, as I 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.800 was hinting to, they can't this guy doesn't have GPS 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.120 capabilities on his phone, so they can't pinpoint exactly where 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.440 he was, but they can narrow it down within a 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.600 couple of blocks because of the cell phone towers. So 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.440 they track Richard's calls to Lincoln's Center tower on the 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.080 west side, which is near where Nicole was attacked. But 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:45.680 he said he made the calls from the upper east 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.080 side at the restaurant. So things are not looking good 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.000 for old Richard and they say he was most likely 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.080 changing his clothes. Stabler is We're back at the precinct, 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.560 and Stabler's like, he belonged to a gym and it 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:58.560 was right near there and he signed it at eight 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.080 o'clock and they're like, yeah, what was covered in blood 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.160 from like oops, a daisy sea section And then they're like, well, 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:06.799 he cleaned up a lot at the scene. But then 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.840 they said he rolled into the gym in a long 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:11.759 coat and a duffel bag, so his bloody clothes would 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.040 have been like hidden if he was wearing like a 0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.959 long trench or something. But nothing at the gym links 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:17.760 to the crime scene. He didn't have a regular locker 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.880 or anything like that where he could have hid bloody clothes. 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.799 So he's got these. This guy's thought of everything. How 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.279 about cab companies, He only had thirty minutes to get home. 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.200 Huang's like, I don't think he took a cab. This 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.640 guy's been meticulous and this is one more witness that 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:30.279 he doesn't need. 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:31.719 Finn goes he could have run. 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.200 We clocked it, and liv Goes lives like YouTube bozos 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.560 ran it, like she cannot imagine that Finn and Munch 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.320 ran the distance of this, like from the gym to 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:45.160 this guy's home, and Munch is like, now, we walked it, 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:46.920 but we still had a couple of minutes to spare. 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.359 So they're like, we need a warrant. He could still 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.359 have the duffel bag, the murder weapon could be there. 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.480 Craigan wants Huang to be involved in all of the 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.360 search and the questioning because he knows how shrinks operate. 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.439 So time to give up your trade secrets doc at 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.080 the Manning That would have been a fun one to 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.160 talk to Bed Wong about talking to John Ritter and 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.160 doing psychiatrists versus psychiatrists. At the Manning apartment. There is 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.480 no gym bag, There are no cutting instruments in the 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:15.800 whole house besides manicure scissors. But this man is above 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.920 and beyond organized, Like he has three baskets for like 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.480 laundry lights, darks, which Lisa and I have established is 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.879 old and no one needs to do that anymore, and 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.120 dry cleaning basket as well, and I sort of love it. 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:30.360 I love how organized he is, Like. 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.600 Benson goes, this is more organized than my wardrobe, and 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:36.160 it's like, yeah, this guy is truly Like did you 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.799 ever read about Mark Summers, the host of Doubledare like 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.880 famously has OCD and like they did articles about him 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:43.759 where like all the hangers in his closet had to 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.360 be equidistant apart, and like all his shirts are folded 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:47.000 like perfect. 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.240 It's reminding me of this guy's closet. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.320 And then Huong goes, this guy has enough personal hygiene 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.040 products in the bathroom to open a salon, and Benson goes, well, 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.800 so do I it doesn't make me a murderer, just 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.080 a gorgeous, gorgeous woman. 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.120 And uh there. 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.960 Quong's like, I think he has feelings of being unattractive 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.120 and unmanly, and that his advantage is his intelligence, and 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:08.480 he's probably a great shrink. 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:09.759 He's preoccupied with order. 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.520 He thinks he can control everything and that if he 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:14.520 can't control everything, he can be the man that he 0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:15.080 wants to be. 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.200 But his wife wasn't easy to control. 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:20.200 And they show her closet, and her closet is not 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.240 not like horrible of a mess. 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.319 It's just so funny because it's also like as a 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.279 messy person the me like you could just tell a 0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.440 prop person did it, you know, or like a set designer, 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.600 because on the hangar, like there's clothes hanging and then 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.880 there's just like piles of clothes hanging on the hangared 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.480 clothes and it's like, no, those would be on the floor. Yeah, 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.440 those wouldn't be because then that how are they staying 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:43.960 up there? 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.600 I'm right rolling through and throwing. 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.600 So it was just funny like that they were placed 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.520 on top of the hanging clothes. So it was just 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:55.000 such a fabricated mess to me. But also this again, 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:56.799 like they don't seem like they would be together. And 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:58.600 I get that he thinks he's ugly, but it's also 0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.680 like he's not restling like a guy that cares about 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.080 what he looks like. He also doesn't look like he 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.680 works out, Like I don't know, there's just yeah, these 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.279 weird cat I don't you know. I'm probably wrong. 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.360 Obviously I'm not doubting, and I'm so happy that we 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:14.879 have an episode with him in it. 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.920 I just don't buy it. 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.120 Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe that's like why they're not 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.160 working out. I mean, maybe he looked different, maybe he 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:24.959 was different. They met when they were in high school. 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.160 Who fucking knows why people get married to people that 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:31.120 they shouldn't, but this lady and him are obviously very different, 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.600 and so Huang's like, I think this woman threatened to 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:35.760 destroy his sense of control. 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:36.399 So just at that. 0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.560 Moment, Richard comes home, obviously very pissed, a control freak 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.680 walking into his house and the cops are everywhere, ripping 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:46.000 shit apart, like not happy. Stabler sees his keys and goes, 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:48.200 I'm gonna need those and asks a tech to illumin 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.520 all them, like right there on the spot, and so 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.160 under the black light stablers like, see the plastic absorbs 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:54.600 the blood and you can't get rid of it, and 0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.480 boom under the light, the keys have invisible blood like 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.360 all over them. Like so now we're taking you in, buddy, 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.160 Not that I don't know, blood on your keys. 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.680 I don't know if that's like a smoking gun. But 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.200 let's get to the cement room. 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:12.000 Bars Manning is sitting there, okay, Richard is sitting there 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.359 when Benson stable and Huang rolling, they brought you into 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.960 shrink the shrink, he says to Huang, and Huang goes, oh, 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.480 does that make you feel important? And Richard goes, I mean, 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.080 it just seems unnecessary since I didn't do anything wrong. 0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:25.439 And like Ritter is really good in this role. 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:29.000 He's got like a smugness, like he is I'm smarter 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:31.680 than all of you, you know, like he's arrogant, he's smug, 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:36.560 and it's like it almost feels like, I don't know 0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.920 if you were keep going with the wounded husband thing, 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.160 keep acting like I don't know what you mean. Instead 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:44.360 he's like, well, I haven't done anything wrong, you know. 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:48.560 He just really has sort of changed his personality now 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.319 and he's on the offensive with the cops, and so 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:53.919 he goes, I haven't done anything wrong, and Benson goes, 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:55.600 but your wife did, right, And he goes, we had 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:57.680 marital problems, but we were working to solve them. 0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.359 And she he was like, or goes she left you, 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:02.279 and he goes. 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.319 He literally goes, I wouldn't say she left me so 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.400 much as she was going to the man who fathered 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.160 her child. It's like that she left you. You are 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.680 the mayor of de Lulu Town, Like that is she 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.880 left you. And he's just like, it's not really leaving. 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:19.520 It's just preferring a partner with whom she has created 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:24.319 a child over me. So he continues and he goes, 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.319 she just thought that was the best solution, and Huang goes, 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.680 but that was the wrong solution, and he nods and 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.840 he goes, well, so the problem was the baby and 0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.520 now the problem doesn't exist because there's no baby, and 0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.920 he goes, well, yes, and he kind of grins, and 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:42.040 Benson's like, Nicole wasn't going to marry Kyle. She just 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.200 wanted to get away from you. So I guess that's 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:47.200 what I'm confused about. She kind of told Kyle, I'm 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.719 not going to marry you, but she also told her 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:49.920 husband she was going to leave. I think she was 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.440 just gonna go have the baby on her own. Maybe 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.360 who knows, and Nicole's and he goes, Nicole doesn't know 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.640 what she wants, and it's like fuck you man, Like 0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:59.840 he's I hate she doesn't know what she wants. 0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:04.440 Guy, fuck that. Huang's like, well, she wanted a relationship 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:05.680 with another man. Why is that? 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.920 And he goes, well, she probably thought our relationship was lacking, 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:10.560 and Stabler goes lacking. 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:11.640 What do you think was lacking? 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.800 Dick because his name is Richard, of which Dick is 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:20.560 a nickname, and Stabler is basically giving this guy. 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:22.520 Making a dick joke about this guy being bad in bed. 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:27.279 So Richard goes, oh, challenging my masculinity a little amateurist, 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:29.680 don't you think, And Huang is like, no, it's a. 0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:34.040 Pretty obvious weakness he knows. Stabler's like, you. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.840 Think you're smarter than everybody else. And then one of 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:40.120 them goes been to the Jim lately and he goes, oh, yeah, 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.720 I forgot to mention that I did go pump iron 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.000 on the night that I thought my wife was fucking missing, 0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.239 and wouldn't pick up her phone and didn't show up 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.239 to meet me at dinner, Like, this is insane. How 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.359 did Nicole fool you into believing you were the father? 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:54.680 Stabler said, she made you look stupid, and you hated 0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:56.799 it for it. Benson said, so they're really going after her, 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:58.799 and he goes, I love my wife, and they're like, 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.439 you almost killed her, and then Huang is like, no, 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.040 he killed the baby, but he wasn't smart enough to 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.839 do the job right, and Richard goes, I don't even 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:08.920 know what that means, and I think that was funny, 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.480 like the way he says it. He's like, I don't 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.400 even I don't even know what you're talking about. And 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.200 they're like, well, Nicole can't have children now, and now 0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:18.480 I neither will you. And he goes, you're so wrong 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.520 about me. All I care about is my wife and 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.480 my family, and it ruined everything. And of course this 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.040 psychle was talking about the baby, and so Kwang goes, 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.400 so you got rid of it, and he goes, wouldn't anyone, 0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.040 So he's essentially like admitting it, and this is yikes 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.040 to the max. And also, I don't believe this guy would. 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:41.680 Talk without a lawyer, but he is he is arrogant, Yeah, yeah, 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:42.760 but arrogant. 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.880 But then it's like you can be arrogant, but to 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.960 just confess, I mean, he just confessed essentially. Cabot on 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:49.839 the other side of the glass, was like, arrest him. 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:51.600 We've got him on assault one for attack on the 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:55.240 mother plus abortion one. And Stabler's like, what about murder? 0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.880 He killed the baby and she's like, has Melinda confirmed that? 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.480 And he's like, well, the baby was alive and now 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.280 it's dead. And that's like there is sort of interesting 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.759 language in this episode, like whether you're calling something a 0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:11.719 baby versus a fetus, you know, like there is language 0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.640 that is sort of sensitive around those topics, you know. 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:20.360 So we have to establish that this fetus was literally born, 0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:22.160 and that if it was a baby, that it was 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.240 legally a person, and it had to have been born 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:27.560 alive and something that indicated that it lived outside of 0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:29.720 the womb. If he was killed in the womb, then 0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:32.080 he was never a person. But if he was born 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.680 in a hospital, he would have lived. Olivia argues, and 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:38.000 Cabot's like, it doesn't matter. Neonata sides are notoriously different. 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.200 I never heard that term before. Neonata sides. Neonata sides 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.280 are notoriously difficult to prosecute because the medical evidence is 0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.400 always inconclusive. Like it's very hard to I guess, determine 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.840 whether they're killed in or out of utero if there 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.360 is no witness, or whether they took a breath or not. 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:56.200 So if there's no witness stating that the baby was alive. 0:57:56.360 --> 0:58:00.520 Cabot feels shaky on getting a murder conviction and a 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:03.240 legal third trimester abortion is the best she thinks she 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.760 can do, and Stabler is lit up. 0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.920 He's like, at seven months the baby moves. 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:11.680 The only reason it's it's dead is because this dude 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:15.120 bashed its skulln and it is a slippery slope, Like 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.960 Cabot explains that argument could be used to stop abortions 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.640 that are medically necessary, and do we want to go 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.600 now charging abortion doctors and like it is wild. This 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.200 episode is from two thousand and what three, No, this 0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:29.600 episode is from two thousand and two, Like these are 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.680 arguments we're like still having. 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:32.200 Today, you know. 0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:36.040 So it's it is a really interesting that the show 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:37.960 tackled this issue, I think, but I thought it's. 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:41.480 Also like fetus baby, it doesn't matter if it's involuntary, 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.840 there's a crime, Like why is like why is Stabler 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:50.040 so concerned like fetish like fetal murder, he would still 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:51.680 get a lot of time in the attack on the wife, 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:52.880 Like I don't know why it has to be murder 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:53.400 of a baby. 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.160 I think they she thinks he'll get more time for 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.960 murder and that it's like for him, it's always about 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.040 what it's called. It's always at like the ethics of 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.160 like this is a murder, he needs to go down 0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:03.800 for murder. 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:05.280 Yeah, but isn't it still a crime? 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.320 Like if I want to keep my if I want 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:12.760 to stay pregnant and have my baby, and someone stabs 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.720 and kills the baby I wanted, Like it doesn't matter 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.760 if as a fetus or not, you like I wanted it. 0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:21.400 Because there's other episode. This is just one episode where 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.959 they've done the opposite as well, you know, Yeah, those 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:28.440 cases where it's like sometimes if you're drugged and uh 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:30.480 not in normal state, we can't charge you, And then 0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.200 other times it's like, yep, you're still going to jail, 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:32.680 Like they. 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:33.800 Change the rules on us. 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:35.800 I feel something I know, and also I don't maybe 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:38.160 the rules have changed into a one. But like, if 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:40.920 you kill a pregnant woman and the baby dies as well, 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:43.360 I don't know if that's considered a murder as much 0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:44.920 as it is like an illegal. 0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:47.760 Abortion or well Scott Peterson was charged with the murder 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:48.160 of both. 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:52.800 Huh. Interesting, I wonder if it's states, if it's a 0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.080 state thing a lot. I'm going to google this really quickly. 0:59:55.840 --> 1:00:00.960 So there has been an act in the United States, 1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:04.280 The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of two thousand and 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.640 four defines a fetus as a child in uterus and 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.480 considers the death of an unborn infant during a federal 1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.360 violent crime to be a separate offense from the crime 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.240 against the pregnant woman. The punishment for this offense is 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:18.160 the same as the punishment for the same injury or. 1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:20.880 Death of the pregnant woman. So thirty eight states also 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:21.520 have laws. 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:24.240 That impose harsher penalties if the victim is murdered while pregnant, 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:26.680 and some of those laws define the fetus as a 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:27.280 person for the. 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.120 Purpose of criminal prosecution. 1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:33.360 Yeah, so it looks like but this episode came out 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.240 no one, so maybe that shit wasn't you know. 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:37.200 That's what I'm saying. This show is like ahead of 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:38.600 its time a lot, and it's like. 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:41.280 Capital does this, and I feel like the judges are 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:44.520 always like this precedent and then abortion and it's like, yeah, yeah, 1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:46.600 for criminal purposes, we can switch it up. 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:48.720 Okay, if it's not your choice, it's. 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:53.200 Murder, right, right, right, that's what Honestly, that's wildly what 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:58.240 Ben Stabler is arguing here. Like Stabler is like, abortion 1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:00.680 is different, it's the mother's choice, and is like, if 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:02.280 we charge for the murder of a fetus, we give 1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:03.919 the fetus rights, and do you want to go down 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.640 that road? And Stable argues it's not the same thing, 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:08.480 but it is in the eyes. 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:08.720 Of the law. 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:13.120 So Stabler's like, you saw that baby, Olivia, you saw 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:15.440 that baby. This guy's gonna walk And Olivia's like, I 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.400 don't like it, but we can't like walk back reproductive rights. 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:22.520 Like this is a conundrum, and he's like, we're gonna 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.120 let a murderer get away to preserve a political ideal. 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.040 I don't even know what I'm doing here. He's like 1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:30.600 getting really really fired up. Craigan tells Stabler, take. 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:32.000 A break, buddy, you need to go to the calm 1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:32.480 down room. 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:36.400 It's like you just missed a fee for Columbia. It's yeah, 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:37.000 like you can. 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.880 I'm sure you could stop by the office and whip 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.880 your dick around and give the check for thirty dollars. 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:46.880 It's fifty but yes, I know, I know. 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:49.120 I mean it was fifty back in the day and 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:51.560 I was applying for college a little bit earlier than Maureen. 1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:57.320 But like, yeah, or maybe he is really traumatized by 1:01:57.360 --> 1:01:59.480 the case. But I think he's traumatized by the case, 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.160 and he's also traumatized by the fact that he's now 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:02.800 been doing this job for three years and talks to 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.320 nobody about it, like you know, and he needs to 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:08.320 get therapy. But does he do it for another ten seasons? 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:11.960 I don't think so. So basically, Stabler walks off in 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:15.560 a huff, and Cabot's like, if the emmy can give 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:19.360 me solid evidence that the baby was alive, she can 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:22.200 work with this, but she's not going to go for 1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:25.480 a murder in the death of an unborn child. And 1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:27.640 so Craigan's like, get your butts over to Werner, and 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:30.240 Cabot you go to. So in the morgue, we see 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.400 some other medical examiner just weighing the innerds of some 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:34.560 dead Kui barf. 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:37.280 It's like really nasty. And then well, it's what we 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.160 talked to her about, this giant ass thing. 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:42.000 So this is the scene where it's like the biggest 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:43.680 liver we've ever seen in our lives. 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:45.720 Well, I think that was a different one. That was 1:02:45.760 --> 1:02:49.120 one where cat where she was weighing it. In this scene, 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:51.320 someone else is weighing it. And then they just zoom 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.760 in on Melinda, but there's someone else in her office 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:54.680 like taking out it. 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:57.800 Like so this is another Yes, this is another one, 1:02:57.840 --> 1:03:01.280 and though but it looked comically over ye same way. 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.080 They are definitely getting these parts at like butcher shops, 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:06.600 and this is not human. These are not human parts, 1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:09.800 which we've got the tea from Tom Ratuni that let 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:13.040 us know that. But she's reading off all this medical 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:16.200 mumbo jumbo about the findings of the baby's body and 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.400 to Cabat and Benson and Stabler, and then Stabler's like 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:22.160 in English, please, and she's like, the baby took a breath. 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:24.240 So Cabbat is laying it all out. If I go 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.040 after him for murder, I'm dropping abortion and assault. There 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:29.080 can only be one theory of the crime. Either he 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:30.720 was trying to murder the baby, or he was trying 1:03:30.720 --> 1:03:33.360 to murder Nicole. I don't know why that's true either. 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.080 She tells Melinda she has to be willing to testify 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:38.000 that this was a live birth, and Melinda does not 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:41.200 fuck around. She goes, I am so at trial. Melinda's 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.640 on the stand being questioned by Trevor Langan and he 1:03:43.680 --> 1:03:46.080 looks so hot. And this is his first episode ever, 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:48.560 and this is the episode where him and Marishka meet 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.240 each other, and it's called monogamy. 1:03:51.200 --> 1:03:53.040 They had to have talked about that at their wedding. 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:54.880 They had to someone have had to talk about that 1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:58.360 in the speech, please, like it's too much when we 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:03.240 too good finally meet Marishka, we got to get wedding scoop. 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:06.520 But also he has little glasses. He's a little cutie. 1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:09.720 Yeah. I think he's truly one of the hottest men. 1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:11.280 I think he's hot, then I think he's hot, now 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:16.240 I think he's so fucking hot. They're like Harry Potter glasses, yeah, 1:04:16.280 --> 1:04:20.480 like little smart boy glasses, and he fucking hot. Melinda 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:23.040 is like explaining all her science on the stand. She's 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:26.040 looking gorgeous. She's so smart she's very like level headed, 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:29.160 and he's like, pardon me, I'm very dumb at science. 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:30.680 What is a hydrostatic test? 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:33.000 And she explains it's like this test where the lungs 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:35.080 are placed in water and if a portion of them floats, 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.439 it means they were once inflated, so you can tell 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:40.040 if someone has taken a breath. And that's what happened here. 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:44.440 And by the way, Bobby Knival meaning Kyle Novachak, and 1:04:44.520 --> 1:04:47.200 Nicole are sitting together in the courtroom. Nicole has fully 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:49.600 healed and looks beautiful and maybe they're back together through 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:50.280 the trauma. 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:50.840 Who knows. 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:56.280 Trevor asks Melinda about post mortem putrefaction and all this stuff, 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:59.439 and for a moment, Melinda pauses and looks a little 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:01.720 bit like I see where this guy is going. Like 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:04.479 she doesn't totally look like she's gotten got but she's 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:07.160 like she pauses, and that's a flag for me. 1:05:07.280 --> 1:05:09.600 And that's I think tim Rtuni's. 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:11.400 So good because that, like you can just feel that 1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:14.160 little pause is like, uh oh, where's this going? And 1:05:14.200 --> 1:05:16.680 then she's got her footing again and heeps, being like, well, 1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:17.720 why didn't you run it twice? 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:18.800 Were you busy that day? 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:22.080 And the judge is like, get to the point, and like, 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:25.120 isn't it possible that post mortem gases are responsible for 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:27.560 inflating the lungs And she's like, perhaps, but there were 1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:29.960 other factors, and he's cutting her off. He's running circles 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:32.560 around her, like it's honestly, he's very hot, but he's 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:34.360 being kind of a dick, and he is like getting 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:36.920 her to admit on the stand that it's also possible 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.680 the baby took a breath while partially expelled and then 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:43.960 died before being fully expelled, which is what are we 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:48.120 talking about, Like he took a breath like in the 1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:50.800 when the belly was first opened, and then by the 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:53.240 time he got outside of it, Like this wasn't through 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:54.960 the vaginal canal, it was through a C section. 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:56.440 I'm sure our doctors are going to tell me how 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:57.400 that could even be possible. 1:05:57.440 --> 1:06:00.480 But she admits it on the stand that it's possible, 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:04.040 but she looks skeptical, and Stabler looks pissed. Outside Stabler's 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:08.560 yelling at cabin about letting langon Sam bag Melinda, She's like, dude, 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:10.880 he's right, we can't prove how and when the baby 1:06:10.920 --> 1:06:12.840 died beyond a reasonable doubt, and you can blame me 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:14.880 if you want to. He'll probably get three and a 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:16.560 half to nine years for the assault. 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:19.400 He'll do two. Elliott is pissed, walks away. 1:06:19.760 --> 1:06:23.080 Elliott's in now in like these weird holding rooms where 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.040 it seems like all the criminals talk to their lawyers. 1:06:25.040 --> 1:06:27.760 Maybe it's like under the courthouse, and he walks right 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.520 over to the cage that Langan and Richard are sitting in, 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:32.520 and Richard is real weirdo. 1:06:32.680 --> 1:06:34.360 He's like, Detective, what. 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:38.760 A surprise, like acting like a freak, and Elliott says nothing. 1:06:38.800 --> 1:06:42.000 He just like dead eyed, stares at Richard, and then 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:44.440 Trevor bates him and goes, go ahead, harass my client. 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:47.240 I would love a mistrial, And Richard is like, why 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:49.320 don't you leave us alone? Even though Trevor is like, 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:53.280 I strongly advise against this private conversation, He's like, leave 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:56.920 us so honestly. John Ritter is smiling and acting really 1:06:56.920 --> 1:06:59.800 creepy and smug. Stabler's like, oh, are you gonna shrink me? 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:02.080 He goes, well, usually my time is worth two hundred 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:04.920 dollars an hour, and then he starts to like give 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:06.880 again two thousand and one pricing. 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:10.440 Richard is like, okay, you're married. It's like okay, he's 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:11.640 got a ring on. You're not a psychic. 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:14.000 You have kids and he's like, yeah, I have four. 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:16.960 He goes, what don't you do anything to protect your family? 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.840 And Stabler's like killing a child? Nope, not for me. 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:23.960 And he's like, well you understand that impulse, though, you 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:26.320 know why I did what I had to do. And 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:28.800 he's like, you had to protect what you had by 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:31.560 destroying it, and he's like, I didn't destroy anything, and 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:34.919 Stabler walks out. He's like, I didn't destroy anything. Back 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:37.600 at trial, Lois Preston is the judge by the way 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:40.520 she has been. Richard is on the stand now and 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:42.680 he's saying how he and Nicole had agreed to meet 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.560 for dinner to salvage their relationship. He's saying that he 1:07:45.600 --> 1:07:49.400 had a complete textbook case of a break with reality, 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:51.880 like I don't know what's what happened. They agreed to 1:07:51.880 --> 1:07:53.760 meet to salvage the relationship, and then what triggered the 1:07:53.760 --> 1:07:55.400 break with reality? He just says he has a break 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:59.400 with reality. Meanwhile, while he's talking, Finn and Munch come 1:07:59.440 --> 1:08:02.479 in and they hand Cabot some paperwork and they start 1:08:02.480 --> 1:08:03.960 whispering and he's. 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:05.040 Like, I look back. 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:07.440 Richard is like, I can't believe what I've done to 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:08.240 the woman I love. 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:10.400 I'm so sorry Cabot. 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:12.760 Then it's her turn to talk and she's like a 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:15.080 new piece of evidence, and Langan is like, objection, we 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:16.960 haven't seen this evidence, and so they approach the bench. 1:08:17.400 --> 1:08:20.000 Langan argues it was not provided during discovery, so it 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:21.960 has to be out, and Cabot's like, it was not 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:24.800 material to the charge, and so Lois lets it in. 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:26.759 Trevor asks for a recess. 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:28.840 He can prefer with his client, but Lois is like, 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:30.120 I'm letting it in and. 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:31.519 We're keeping going, like shut up. 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.719 So Cabot questions, Richard, did you take your wife's word 1:08:34.840 --> 1:08:37.559 when she said that the kid was not yours? And 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:40.360 he said yes, and then he's like, she goes, is 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:42.759 there any possibility it was the result of another affair 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:45.639 and he says, no, she told me it was Kyle 1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:46.559 Novachek's baby. 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:48.839 Cabot drops a bomb. 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:51.160 This is the new evidence that munch of Bin brought 1:08:51.160 --> 1:08:53.720 and it is a paternity test confirming that Kyle is 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:55.679 Marity Povich not the father. 1:08:56.280 --> 1:09:01.559 So Richard was the father. He looked so shook. He 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:03.160 says he would have known. 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:05.000 He's like, I would have known if that baby was mine. 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:07.439 And she was like, you were so sure he couldn't 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:09.920 have been your child. You held your own baby in 1:09:09.960 --> 1:09:10.519 your hands. 1:09:10.560 --> 1:09:12.880 Did he cry? And this is always the part I 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:15.120 remember when I think of this episode. Did your son 1:09:15.240 --> 1:09:18.320 cry before you killed him? And Richard shakes his head 1:09:18.400 --> 1:09:20.679 and goes and he's got like tears in his eyes. 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:24.000 He's like, he only cried a little. He only cried 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:26.400 a little, and then he starts to like breakdown, and 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:28.839 that's fade to credits and it's Stickwolf Baby. 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:33.960 Go to jail, bitch and Cabo looks so beautiful and stunning. 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:36.960 It's like they do really good shots of her face 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:39.760 and he is such a good actor and like. 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:44.280 They killed yeah, and like we're not getting to the 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:47.760 bottom of Okay, here's my question though, Like why did 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:52.120 Kyle Novachek go and punch out that girl? Aaron to 1:09:52.200 --> 1:09:56.840 be like, don't tell about our affair, like find out by. 1:09:56.880 --> 1:09:59.479 Thought that you were gonna because I was like, why 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:00.400 did we even need her? 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:01.320 Like why need her. 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:03.080 Go to that girl? I mean, she was a good 1:10:03.120 --> 1:10:07.280 red herring. But like, I think they could have just 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:09.519 had what is like, she could have just given that 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:12.000 up sooner instead of being scared, Like why would Kyle 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:13.519 have gone to her and go you shut the fuck up? 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:14.880 If the cops come to you, you don't say that we 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:16.920 were in a relationship. It's like they're gonna find out, 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:19.880 Like and also, you didn't do anything. You didn't do it, 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:21.679 so why are you doing that anyway? 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:24.400 Weird weird blod Well, he can't trust the police, like 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:27.080 he's been incarcerated before. He's probably on probation, you know, 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:31.400 like he didn't want to comply because fuck the police 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:34.320 in his head, you know. Yeah, well, you guys are 1:10:34.320 --> 1:10:36.880 gonna be really upset, So I will move it along 1:10:37.280 --> 1:10:48.240 to the crime. Get ready to get sad. So this 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:53.040 is the Richard Greist case. And this guy, I mean, yeah, 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:56.000 you can assume he killed his wife an unborn child 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:59.200 during a violent rampage on May tenth, nineteen seventy eight 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:03.519 and Chess County, Pennsylvania. So it was his wife, Janis 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:05.640 twenty six at the time. She was pregnant and he 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:08.559 stabbed her to death and cut the fetus out of 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:12.000 her body and like truly just ripped their unborn child 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:13.760 out of her womb. And that's not all. This was 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:18.120 a psychotic rampage. Grice then stabbed and gouged out his 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:23.240 six year old daughter's eye. Oh my god, So that's 1:11:23.280 --> 1:11:26.080 beth An, So she doesn't have an eye and then 1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:30.599 he did but she lived. Yeah, okay, yeah, and then 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:36.800 slashed his grandmother's throat and then butchered the family. 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:39.120 Cat, Jesus Christ. 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:41.720 And this is according to prosecutors, and then reported by 1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:44.320 the Philadelphia in Choir, which I am now a member of. 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:47.640 So we will see if they let me cancel a 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:50.920 little easier than Oklahoma did the Tulsa Times. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:53.000 What was it like they have left me alone? Was 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:55.280 that Tulsa? Oh no, it was the Witchita. 1:11:54.960 --> 1:11:59.160 Eagle, Oh, the Witchita So yeah, I am a member 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:04.479 of the Philadelphia Inquirer now, so he was. And it's 1:12:04.520 --> 1:12:07.120 Inquirer with an I, not an E like the bad paper. 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:09.519 So I'm just saying it's like more legitimate, okay. So, 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:11.880 and he was only twenty seven years old at the time, 1:12:12.640 --> 1:12:16.080 and he was an aid at Penhurst State Hospital. And 1:12:16.120 --> 1:12:18.719 he said, he, you know, he flew into the psychotic rage. 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:21.519 He used a screwdriver on his wife. 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:25.280 He stabs her to death and the second floor bedroom 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:28.720 of their house in rural East Coventry and yeah, cut 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:33.559 her open, mutilated this unborn sign and with the gram Yeah, 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:36.160 the grandma was a fucking butcher knife Anna Gresco. 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:38.879 She was seventy one at the time. Oh my god. 1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:41.439 And then he was evading police trying to you know, 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:43.800 he's running shirtless outside of the house. And there's actually 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:47.240 a photo taken for our spot News photography by a 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:50.040 photographer named Thomas J. Kelly and he ended up winning 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:51.240 the Pulitzer Prize. 1:12:50.920 --> 1:12:52.840 For this photo. Wow. 1:12:52.960 --> 1:12:56.040 And it was called Tragedy on Santa Taga Road. And 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:58.519 this guy's bearded and I don't know, hopefully we get 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:00.439 the rights to this photo so we can post it. 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:04.000 And he was running from the home. The cops had 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:04.760 to subdue him. 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:07.080 He was charged with one count of criminal homicide and 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:10.680 two counts of attempted criminal homicide. He got to have 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:13.799 a non jury trial in July and August of nineteen 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:15.479 eighty And this is what's going to make you the 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:18.640 most upset. He was found not guilty by reason of 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:23.680 insanity for stabbing his wife in nineteen eighty God, so 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:24.320 I'm pissed. 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:26.120 Yeah, and I try. 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:28.960 I mean, I want like full court docs because even 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:31.120 with all the research I did, I truly can I 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.320 can't understand this. So this was decided by the Common 1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:38.760 please Court judge Thomas Pitt after a defense expert testified 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.519 that he was suffering from psychosis at the time of 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:45.840 the attacks and could not legally distinguish between right and wrong. Now, 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:49.920 only the Times Harold after a while of research, I 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:52.400 saw they were the only paper that reported that he 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:56.120 flew into a quote drug fueled psychotic rage. If this 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:58.920 is drug fueled go to prison, bitch, what are you 1:13:58.960 --> 1:13:59.479 talking about? 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:03.360 Not like, if it's just like a psychotic break, then 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:05.840 I do feel how do you even prove it either way? 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:06.960 So I don't know. 1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:12.160 The verdict was extremely controversial, and then according to the 1:14:12.200 --> 1:14:15.720 Daily Local News, it said this case was a precursor 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.559 to a similar finding for the would be assassin of 1:14:18.720 --> 1:14:19.439 Ronald Reagan. 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:20.120 So like. 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:25.360 And he was involuntarily committed to Norristown State Hospital in 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:29.760 nineteen eighty one, and he tried to be moved from 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:33.200 the hospital to community group home immediately like he constantly 1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:36.400 wanted a less restrictive setting, and because of this like 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:41.280 not guilty charge, every year, they had a hearing to 1:14:41.320 --> 1:14:44.360 see if he could be released every year. 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:47.759 Oh no, every year. I'm sorry, that's like a taking 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:48.920 time bomb situation. 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.640 Yeah, he was always begging to be released and I'm like, 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:57.000 fuck you. So in two thousand and eight, So he 1:14:57.040 --> 1:15:00.880 did spend decades, decades into in this hostel. All, so 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:03.120 in two thousand and eight, like you know, trying to 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:05.880 get as much info on all the hearings I could. 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:09.559 So they had a hearing and the hospital doctors believed 1:15:09.600 --> 1:15:12.880 he functioned well and deserved a chiller setting, but a 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:17.080 psychiatrist for the prosecution testified that Gris still blames women 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:21.120 for in his life for his problems, including his wife 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:24.120 that he killed, which demonstrates a lack of insight and 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:27.519 empathy and which makes his release way too fucking risky. 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:29.679 And the judge at this point made the right decision 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:31.400 and told him he needed to stay longer at this 1:15:31.560 --> 1:15:36.680 horse Town State Hospital. Judge Edward Griffith ruled that he 1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:42.320 needed more and like insight orient like treatment to become 1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:45.320 more insightful to address his behavior, like realize that the 1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:48.960 problems were within the judge noted that Gryce still sees 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:52.280 himself as the victim and he engages a manipulative behavior 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:54.840 with his caregivers, and that he needs to remain in 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:59.040 a structured setting of the hospital. Now, I just like 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:01.200 don't understand any So in two thousand and nine, they 1:16:01.200 --> 1:16:03.920 had a state hospital yard sale. Didn't know that was 1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:09.519 a thing, and he he purchased a pick axe. And 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:12.080 this came out because of these yearly meetings, and so 1:16:12.120 --> 1:16:16.479 the lead psychiatrist, Olu FUCKIESI said, well, Gryce, And at 1:16:16.520 --> 1:16:19.559 this point, Gryce is fifty seven years old, and he's like, oh, well, 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:21.600 he bought the axe for gardening. So I didn't like 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:23.880 really see a reason to mention it or taken away 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:27.000 from him. Like I don't get this hospital. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.160 I'm sorry, a shovel. We'd get a little tiny trowel, 1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:32.400 plastic trowel. There are plastic trowels. 1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:34.559 And I love this judge, and this judge had this 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:37.519 case for decades, like every fucking year, and Edward Griffith, 1:16:37.520 --> 1:16:44.280 the judge goes the hospital sells pick axes, Oh my god, 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:46.600 and again back and forth. So like some people to 1:16:46.600 --> 1:16:48.760 the hospital go no, he deserves a chiller space, and 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:51.479 others are like, no, he fails to understand what prompted 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:54.040 his breakdown, so there is a risk for another one. 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:55.879 But also, how did they prove it was a psychotic 1:16:55.960 --> 1:16:58.360 break It makes absolutely no sense that this man is 1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:01.559 not in jail. So in twenty third, his psychiatrist Ira 1:17:01.680 --> 1:17:04.800 Brenner said Gryce finally had progress over the years and 1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:08.519 has greater self awareness and expressions of sadness and remorse. Again, 1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:11.880 I don't care, and to quote Miranda, so like a 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:14.519 man can correctly identify a feeling, so we got to 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:17.479 give him a prize, Like when she's talking about Richard 1:17:17.520 --> 1:17:19.639 with Samantha where she's like, well, you know he was sorry, 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:20.679 he got scared, and it's. 1:17:20.600 --> 1:17:22.559 Like, yeah, like I don't. 1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:26.479 So he finally has sadness for gouging out his daughter's eye, 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:32.360 fucking mutilating his fucking feeding, Like it's insane that he 1:17:32.479 --> 1:17:34.719 finally has some sort of feeling and we're still trying 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:38.240 to get him released. It's insane, and this all these 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:42.639 doctors should be fucking committed, and this Brenner wanted him released, 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:45.120 and she gives me Bronwin vibes. She really fucking does, 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:48.519 and thank God for Deborah Ryan, who was a DA 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:50.880 and she fought to keep him in and he's She's like, 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:53.960 he's still a risk. And Judge Griffith did a lot 1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.919 like kept him inside and. 1:17:57.160 --> 1:17:57.920 Really fought it. 1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:02.920 So the judge also didn't like that Grist would refuse 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:06.040 to meet with the state appointed psychiatrists. He only wanted 1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:07.840 to meet with the ones that were like he was 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:13.240 able to manipulate. And so the doctor Barbara Ziv she testified, 1:18:13.640 --> 1:18:16.120 she's like a state person that was the state appointed person. 1:18:16.479 --> 1:18:20.160 She believed Grist would decompensate is that a word in 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:23.600 a less restrictive environment, and that he only engages in 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:27.400 therapy on a superficial level. But again the hospital staff 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:30.720 just kept requesting that he be granted expanded privileges for 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:35.080 unsupervised trips off hospital grounds. And so the judge finally 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:39.360 in twenty thirteen allowed for off ground privileges. So he 1:18:39.479 --> 1:18:42.679 got to leave for an unsupervised outing for twelve hour 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.639 stretches once a month, and for a twenty four hour 1:18:45.720 --> 1:18:50.240 stretch every three months, and then every Sunday he can 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:52.639 go to church no matter what. And at church at 1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:54.519 the it was a Jehovah witness place. 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:55.360 That's where he. 1:18:55.400 --> 1:19:00.160 Ended up meeting one of his two wives. What the 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:03.200 woman he met here was a woman from New Zealand 1:19:03.360 --> 1:19:05.759 and she ended up continuing to be his wife forever, 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:08.280 like they're together. And then the first wife was a 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:11.760 nurse at the hospital who later ended up. 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:17.720 Taking her own life. Oh my god, now they're kids. Wait, 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:19.599 I'm sorry. Was he married to them at the same time? 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:22.160 You said, like you know, no, no, no. 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:23.840 No, no, sorry, I didn't say it right, like you 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:25.760 know that that was just his second wife he met 1:19:25.760 --> 1:19:27.280 at church, like I do know how to order? 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.360 Okay to talk about he had another wife that he 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:31.240 met before. Okay, so, oh my god. 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:35.120 So he married like a nurse and then she died sadly, 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.680 and then he found this woman at church and they 1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:41.840 have stayed married. And his children, his daughters did not 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:44.720 want him released and said that him being let out 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:48.679 would fuck up their long road to recovery. Like they 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:52.800 did not want him out. Yeah, but eventually, Jen he 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:56.960 was released into the wild. So more than forty years later, 1:19:56.960 --> 1:20:00.040 in twenty twenty two, he was released from no for 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:01.520 Orristown State Hospital. 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:03.160 The judge, like, I. 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:05.479 Said, Edward Griffith ruled that he could go free, but 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:08.240 with the condition that he can have no contact with 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:11.040 his daughters Angela and Beth Anne, who were forty nine 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:15.000 and fifty at this time. He also mus had to 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:20.160 meet with a psychiatrist monthly. And so Grace's next supervising 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:24.000 psychiatrist comes on in and that's doctor Edgar Martinez and 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:27.040 still with doctor Ira Brenner, part of the team who 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:30.759 I think is Bronwin. And they were just like, listen, 1:20:30.760 --> 1:20:32.920 his psychosis was a long time ago, and it's been 1:20:33.360 --> 1:20:35.280 like subsidized a long time ago. Like he's not had 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:37.400 a freak out in all these years in this hospital. 1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:39.720 But I also think he's a manipulative motherfucker and it 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.200 wasn't psychosis and he should be in fucking prison getting 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:47.200 a needle. Sorry, Like, And they said he still has 1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:51.519 some personality disorders, but those can't mandate commitment. And the 1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:54.200 DA's office was still against this. So he had an 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:57.400 appointed lawyer named Marita Hutchinson. He also then hired a 1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:00.519 personal attorney named Michael Van Derven who he was known 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:03.800 for representing Trump in his second impeachment trial. 1:21:04.400 --> 1:21:08.000 Oh my god, Also, how does this man who I 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:12.479 bet the woman the wife, Oh, paying for it? Jesus. Sure, 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:15.479 he's not going to marry someone about money. He can't worry. 1:21:15.520 --> 1:21:18.920 He's not working as she's probably so. 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:22.479 He's quoted by the Daily Local News, this Michael lawyer 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.960 in quotes, he should not have been incarcerated for forty 1:21:26.000 --> 1:21:26.760 four years. 1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:28.120 I disagree. 1:21:28.400 --> 1:21:31.000 Was he even incarcerated. He wasn't incarcerated. He was in 1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:32.160 a medical facility. 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:33.960 He wasn't in jail. Shit. 1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:36.760 And he's like her kid, He's like, if he had 1:21:36.800 --> 1:21:38.639 been convicted of a crime, he would have been out 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:41.320 of prison by now. And again I disagree with that too. 1:21:41.360 --> 1:21:43.519 I think he would have gotten life for this violence. 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:47.519 Yes, the murder of a two women, right, the grandmother 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:49.080 died as well with her throat slit. 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:55.320 I mean, come on. And then the murder of the baby, no, grandma. 1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:57.720 Grandma didn't die because it was a on count of 1:21:57.760 --> 1:21:59.240 homicide and two counts of life. 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:01.880 She was solid one of murder. 1:22:01.960 --> 1:22:06.640 I mean come on. But also it's like screwdriver to 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:10.360 your wife's pregnant belly and then you mutilated the fetus 1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:14.960 south side. Yeah, oh you gouged out an eye of 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:19.760 your mild I this lawyer being like he would have 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:22.040 been released. He would have gotten life, if not the 1:22:22.120 --> 1:22:25.120 death penalty, depending where I mean Pennsylvania, I don't know, well, 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:27.800 this is a Trump guy, So so he moved in 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:32.400 with his church wife, Francis Grist, who's quoted in the 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.760 Philly Inchoir saying I've known him for eighteen years and 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:39.040 I've loved him as long as I've known him. The 1:22:39.439 --> 1:22:43.320 Chester County DA Deborah Ryan, fought to keep him in 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:45.400 custody and believes that there's still a risk of him 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:49.040 having another violent breakdown. She's like, he committed one of 1:22:49.080 --> 1:22:52.920 the most brutal and heinous murders in our county's history, 1:22:53.280 --> 1:22:55.960 and his release is deeply troubling, and that's to the 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:59.960 Philly Inquirer. Christ's attorney and Marita Hutchinson, said he is 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:03.120 certainly pleased with the decision. Like he told me, I 1:23:03.160 --> 1:23:06.200 can't really feel happy because I have so much guilt 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:08.360 and grief and regret for the deaths of my wife, 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:12.040 an unborn child, and the injuries that happened to my daughters. 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:15.639 In July twenty twenty, three months after he was let out, 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:18.200 a Common Please Court Judge William P. 1:23:19.160 --> 1:23:23.439 Man mahon, what is it mho n mahon. Yeah, I am. 1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:27.439 Signed an order discontinuing the court's oversight of his mental 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:30.600 health treatment after the attorneys and psychiatrists said he no 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:34.320 longer fit the constraints of the States Protocol and so 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:37.160 he gets to be in his seventies and never had 1:23:37.160 --> 1:23:40.160 to serve any time in prison for his brutal murders. 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:44.759 So if any of our lawyers or researchers or anyone 1:23:44.840 --> 1:23:47.000 that studied this in school, I don't know, like, let 1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:48.200 me know what am I missing? 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:48.920 What am I missing? 1:23:49.200 --> 1:23:53.920 And there was like that woman the woman we covered 1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:57.200 the Bobby Joe Sinet case, remember where the woman cut 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:58.280 a fetus from another woman. 1:23:58.479 --> 1:23:59.799 She got the fucking death penalty. 1:24:00.160 --> 1:24:04.560 She got the fucking death penalty, and she was abused 1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:08.120 horrifically her entire fucking life and was put to death. 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:10.800 That was what was just like to me, it's like 1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:14.679 this reeks of like a men being like this government 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:17.920 has no right to like police this man's mind and 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:20.479 this man's mental health. Where it's like if a woman 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:24.519 did something like this, goodbye a mom even worse, you know, 1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:26.080 like just. 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:27.920 Get out of here. You can't hurt a child, you 1:24:27.920 --> 1:24:33.080 can't kill Like, ugh, yeah, I want to read the transcripts. 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.360 I just like, really, am not gonna do that, but 1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:38.439 I am like, I just need to know how this 1:24:38.479 --> 1:24:40.880 case went down because I am flabberg acid, like I 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:41.880 do not understand. 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:48.080 Yeah, thank you for taking us through that crime. I 1:24:48.120 --> 1:24:50.320 had not heard of that. Pretty infuriating. 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:53.280 I just don't know what I'm getting. And I'm into 1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:55.639 mental health, I'm into people. But You're right, I totally 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:59.120 forgot about that case. Fucking put to death by Trump. 1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:03.360 Yeah, Lisa Montgomery, we were really trying to get her 1:25:03.640 --> 1:25:05.720 commuted to life sentence, and. 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:09.000 This Trump lawyer is just like, oh, come on, he 1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:11.479 wouldn't have served that much time. And I mean we 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.760 talked about this with Eileen Werno's case, like women are 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:14.720 put to death like. 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:20.240 And pregnant women. Pregnant women are so susceptible. Oh horrible. 1:25:21.040 --> 1:25:24.559 Anyway, we don't have a guest today, so let's just 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:27.080 jump right into our post mortem, which I believe we're 1:25:27.200 --> 1:25:28.519 kind of starting right now. 1:25:33.200 --> 1:25:34.680 This episode. 1:25:35.280 --> 1:25:39.960 Wow, what are we learning here? This guy don't marry 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:45.080 a guy who fucking jesus, this guy he knew how 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.960 to map out every second of this, Like go to 1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:50.200 the bar, order a drink, go across town, get the 1:25:50.200 --> 1:25:51.760 car for the car park, kill you with the car park, 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:52.160 take you. 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:52.840 Care like it was. 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:56.000 This is like an anti nerd thing or thing you're saying. 1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:58.720 I'm like, you shouldn't be with smart guys. Listen, my 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:01.559 husband is a fucking full nerd. There's no way he 1:26:01.600 --> 1:26:04.040 has the logistics to pull off something like what happened here. 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:09.320 Absolutely not no, absolutely not no. He'd be in Yeah, 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:12.599 he'd be in jail, meeting maybe in jail so quickly 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:14.920 he would go down in history for leaving the most 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:19.439 amount of evidence of any crime scene. That's what would 1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:27.400 be happening. That's true. And then yeah, I guess it. 1:26:27.439 --> 1:26:29.519 But also it's weird that they were even together. And 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:32.200 I know that's rude, but the couple, it's like, I 1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:33.080 just don't get it. 1:26:33.560 --> 1:26:37.559 Sweater vest guy, Yeah, you're into the sweater vest guy. 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:40.760 And then of course you meet Bobby Cannavale and you're 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:43.840 like this guy, construction job guy. 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:45.599 I want I want this, Yes. 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:50.240 But do you think he knows that he is known 1:26:50.360 --> 1:26:55.240 as the guy with the funky tasting spunk through generations? 1:26:55.360 --> 1:26:59.040 Like I don't I know him from Blue Jasmine in that, like, 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:02.320 that's pretty much. I know he's a prolific actor, but 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:05.600 to me, I only think of the spunk, and I 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:07.160 wonder if that would hurt him or not. 1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:10.559 I'm sure he knows that there's a subject of women 1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:12.479 where sex in the city is his biggest thing. 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:13.559 Like I'm sure he. 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:16.840 Knows that, right, Yeah, but it must be so awkward 1:27:16.840 --> 1:27:18.320 to go up to him on the street and be like, 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:19.679 I loved you and sex and the city. 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:22.760 You know, when your jiz tastes weird. 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:25.080 Like it's just such a way, like that is a 1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:27.479 weird fan interaction, I would say. 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:31.080 And that he did kill his baby. It's oh, it's 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.840 just like men, it just needs to be rewired. I 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:36.840 just don't it might not be my baby, so I'll 1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:39.960 kill you, like I don't. It's really I mean, you 1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:42.479 can't trust anybody out there, just tough. 1:27:43.120 --> 1:27:46.720 He was also so sure it wasn't his baby, like 1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:50.000 they hadn't fucked in a long time. So but then 1:27:50.040 --> 1:27:53.800 it was weird that it was, but maybe they just 1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:56.160 it would have been kind of a good extra twist 1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:57.840 if at the end they were like just kidding, it 1:27:57.880 --> 1:28:02.040 wasn't your baby. And then like he just confessed kidding 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:03.800 it wasn't yours. 1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:05.280 And then we probably talked about it on the app. 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:08.880 But this is the episode where Benson Well, Peter Herman, 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:09.880 and Marishka met. 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:14.200 Yes, this is the episode they iconically met on an 1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:18.240 episode called Monogamy, which is ironic and funny. 1:28:18.640 --> 1:28:20.800 Yeah, and then their first day was at church and 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:23.160 I will be hopefully asking her about that one day. 1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:26.200 Oh, I just saw something that was on like Instagram 1:28:26.280 --> 1:28:29.800 or or Twitter or something. It's like but you know 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.240 where it's these long things and you're like these long 1:28:32.320 --> 1:28:34.720 stories and you're kind of like is this true or not? 1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:35.160 I don't know. 1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:38.240 People are doing these posts now where it's like interesting 1:28:38.280 --> 1:28:39.400 fact you might not know. 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:41.240 And it's like basically it's. 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:45.240 All about her meeting Peter Herman on the set and 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.320 how she just like knew immediately that it was like 1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:49.040 this was the guy for her and. 1:28:48.920 --> 1:28:49.799 Like YadA YadA. 1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:54.200 Well, I'm on the trivia for the episode. Also, this 1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:56.599 is the first one to not show the Twin Towers 1:28:56.600 --> 1:29:01.839 in the opening credits. Oh yeah, so that's just something 1:29:02.240 --> 1:29:03.880 just a very important episode, I think. 1:29:04.000 --> 1:29:05.600 And while into the history. 1:29:05.680 --> 1:29:10.320 And while in interrogating Manning Stabler, wears a flag pin 1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:13.160 on his lapel, most likely in honor of the Twin Towers. 1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:18.760 Are you as like someone on IMDb like making that up? 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:21.040 But also you can say helpful or not helpful, And 1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:23.920 six people did think that was a helpful trivia, So. 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:30.759 Pretty good eagle eye looking out for those American flags. 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:31.759 Wherever we can get. 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:35.880 Anyway, we can move on, we can go into our 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:39.000 what would Sister Peg do? 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