WEBVTT - How One Small-Town Woman Lived Nine Lives

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<v Speaker 1>And we returned to our American stories. Up next, a

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<v Speaker 1>story on the trailblazing woman who's lived her life to

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<v Speaker 1>the fullest. Here's our own Monty Montgomery. To get us started.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebecca Cubby Hall is a firecracker. She's been mayor in

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<v Speaker 2>the Army, a teacher, and at one point owned a

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<v Speaker 2>liquor store, which is important for some context in regards

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<v Speaker 2>to the story she's about to tell. Here's Cobby.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister in Saint Louis has always been religious, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Saint Louis years ago to visit with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were going church, and the church was a big, old,

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<v Speaker 3>old building, and I was shocked because I thought they'd

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<v Speaker 3>be in one of these big, fancy cathedral type things.

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<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't. It was an old building but had

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<v Speaker 3>a big congregation. And the Sunday school class was on

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<v Speaker 3>alcohol drinking, and I thought, boy, I've been set up here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the sermon was on selling alcohol, and I

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<v Speaker 3>knew I'd had it then. And I was sitting right

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<v Speaker 3>next to my sister and I let it go on

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<v Speaker 3>and on. He went on and on and on, and

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<v Speaker 3>pretty soon I just stood up. I said, may I

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<v Speaker 3>say something yes, you may. Well. I wound up talking

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes, and I couldn't find any place to shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, God says he didn't want you

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<v Speaker 3>to mistreat your body because you belonged to him. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>look at the people in here, all too heavy, their

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<v Speaker 3>teeth needed repair. I just went on and on and on,

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<v Speaker 3>and so finally I sat down and they clapped, and

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<v Speaker 3>the preacher thanked me for doing that. So when he

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<v Speaker 3>finished his sermon, and I sat right next to my sister,

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<v Speaker 3>and she didn't say a word. And so when he

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<v Speaker 3>was finished, I thought, boy, I got to get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here, and I rushed back to the door, but

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<v Speaker 3>he beat me back there, and he grabbed my hand

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<v Speaker 3>and patted it and patted it and thanked me and

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<v Speaker 3>went on. And I stood right there and shook hands

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<v Speaker 3>with every three person that came out of that church.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we went to my sister's house and I

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<v Speaker 3>got punished there.

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<v Speaker 2>How he was born in August of nineteen thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't been many years ago that I had lived

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<v Speaker 3>longer without electricity than I had lived with it. And

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<v Speaker 3>my grandfather homestead, and then he had brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad, and they kind of cut it up

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<v Speaker 3>and let everybody have a piece of it. And my

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<v Speaker 3>dad they gave the old farmhouse he was born in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born in that farmhouse. And when I was born,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad worked on the highway and he had a

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<v Speaker 3>team of mules and he had to leave, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course he couldn't come home every night because they'd be

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<v Speaker 3>too far with mules to come. But he always told

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<v Speaker 3>my mother to take care of the cub bear, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I got the name Cobby. And right next

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<v Speaker 3>to or we had what we called the garage, but

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<v Speaker 3>it had a dadded butcher, and we always took the

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<v Speaker 3>bladder of the pig and cleaned it good and blow

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<v Speaker 3>it up and use it for it lasts for weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>You use it for a volleyball and what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had chickens, and we always had chicken for

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<v Speaker 3>lunch on Sunday and we go to church. But before

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<v Speaker 3>we went to church, it was my job to get

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<v Speaker 3>the chicken ready early. And I'd go catch a chicken

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<v Speaker 3>and put a board across its head and bull on

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<v Speaker 3>its feet and pull.

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<v Speaker 4>Its head off and hold it down and sometimes let

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<v Speaker 4>it flop around but I had a hot water out

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<v Speaker 4>there and scalded it, you know, pluck it, and then

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<v Speaker 4>i'd take it in the house after I got it

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<v Speaker 4>cleaned and after we washed it real good mom.

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<v Speaker 3>And let it soak in salt water while we went

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<v Speaker 3>to church. But that was always my job, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was just there's nothing to it. Just grab that chicken

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<v Speaker 3>and take care of it. Off we'd go to Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>school then. But I wasn't the only one. Everybody around

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<v Speaker 3>here did the same thing. And we went to town

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturdays. But you let it snow, but we went

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<v Speaker 3>down on Saturday because in town, in New Show, they

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<v Speaker 3>had a truck with a big wire barrel on it

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<v Speaker 3>and they had everybody's name in it, and they'd pull

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<v Speaker 3>out a name and they got one hundred dollar bill

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<v Speaker 3>from the merchants in town. So we never did miss Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>But we never did get one hundred dollars either. But

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<v Speaker 3>we always Mom always packed a lunch and we went

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<v Speaker 3>in the big spring parked it. It was a good love.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will have to say I was always a

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<v Speaker 3>straight f student grade school through high school. And I

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<v Speaker 3>mean f I was real bashful, couldn't talk or anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but when I started high school freshman year here at Newshaw,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a teacher, missus Dorothy Fall, who realized that

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't just a moron, and she asked me if

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<v Speaker 3>I would come in on my study hall period and

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<v Speaker 3>clean her room and she would tutor me while I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing that. Well, I was happy, and she had

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<v Speaker 3>the cleanest room in school because I knew how to clean.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, later on, after I got old, I ran

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<v Speaker 3>for the city council and really won, and Bob Hayes

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<v Speaker 3>ran that same year, and when our first council meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>they elected me uh mayor pro teum and Bob was mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Bob, I'm sorry to say, had the audacity

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<v Speaker 3>to have a heart attack that night and could not

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<v Speaker 3>be on the council anymore. So I automatically became mayor

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<v Speaker 3>of New Show and then after the first term, I

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<v Speaker 3>was elected mayor the second time. And that's when we

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<v Speaker 3>had that big tornado and my teacher, Dorothy Fall, whom

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<v Speaker 3>I loved. She and her mother lived at the corner

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<v Speaker 3>of Kodiak and Norway, and they were both killed in

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<v Speaker 3>that tornado as it came through there. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>always so proud that she lived to see me become

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<v Speaker 3>mayor because she brought me out of the desk. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you she was a wonderful woman, and that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>the most exciting thing I ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to Rebecca Cubby Hall tell her story.

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<v Speaker 1>Born in nineteen thirty four, lived a long part of

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<v Speaker 1>her life without electricity. Give you a context that there

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<v Speaker 1>was life before us here in this great country. Take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the cupbear, her father would say to her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how Cubby became her nickname. And it's stuck. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, when asked to go get the chicken

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<v Speaker 1>before church, it did not entail a trip to Kroger

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<v Speaker 1>or Pigley Wiggly or Ralph's. It meant get the chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyone who lives a rural life knows what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then, when we come back, more of this unique

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<v Speaker 1>and original voice, but not so unique to you who

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<v Speaker 1>live out in parts of this great country that live

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<v Speaker 1>like this and live in the rural parts of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>especially more with Cubby Hall's story, trailblazing woman here on

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<v Speaker 1>our American story. And we returned to our American stories

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<v Speaker 1>and our story with Rebecca Cubby Hall. When we last

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<v Speaker 1>left off, Kubby was telling us about her upbringing, about

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<v Speaker 1>how terrible the students she'd been straight f's, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and also told the story about how one teacher changed

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<v Speaker 1>her life, and that teacher, Miss Dorothy Fall, would ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>lose her life to a tornado, but thanks to that

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<v Speaker 1>teacher's intervention, well, Cubby would one day become mayor of Nioshia,

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<v Speaker 1>something she was glad that her teacher got to see

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<v Speaker 1>before that tragedy. Let's turn just a bit back further

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<v Speaker 1>through her teenage years. Here again is Cubby Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a paper route and kept Crowder. Crowder was

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<v Speaker 3>in full swing, about seventy thousand men over there and

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<v Speaker 3>women over there. And that's why I joined the army,

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<v Speaker 3>because I saw those WAX. I didn't know any of them,

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<v Speaker 3>never spoke to one, but I locked the way they looked,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was the Women's Army Corps. There was no

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<v Speaker 3>women's Army then. Nobody now even knows what WAX stands for.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rebecca's mother wasn't too fond of the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter joining the army.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I wanted to go so badly, and by her

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<v Speaker 3>not wanting me to probably made me want to do

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<v Speaker 3>it more. But my dad never did say yes, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>and my mother never did say no, you can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did. I joined the army and my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother wouldn't even tell me goodbye. She wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 3>with me to Kin City. My dad took me in.

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<v Speaker 3>I caught the bus. I think it was about ten

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<v Speaker 3>thirty or eleven at night, Greyhound bus, and my dad said, now, Cob,

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<v Speaker 3>don't ever do anything that when it gets down to

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<v Speaker 3>the nitty gritty, you can't tell your ma and me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about that all the time. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>the best advice anybody could ever have given a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I went in the army loved I was

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<v Speaker 3>stationed the whole time at Fort Jackson in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 3>and they there, my commanding officer sent me to Fort Slocum,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, to what they called Troop Information and Education School,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where I became a teacher, and I taught,

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<v Speaker 3>among other things, I taught how to take it in

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<v Speaker 3>one apartment, clean, put it back together. I taught pe

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<v Speaker 3>and I taught the history of the military and chemical warfare,

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<v Speaker 3>of which I remembered none of it now. But I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have anyway to go to town ever because of my job.

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<v Speaker 3>The buses didn't run after I got off work. I

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<v Speaker 3>went to work late and got off really late, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I just bought me a motorcycle. I had never

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<v Speaker 3>ever been close to a motorcycle in my whole life,

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<v Speaker 3>never seen one other than just it driving by. But

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<v Speaker 3>I bought a nineteen forty seven Harley Davison. When I

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<v Speaker 3>bought my motorcycle, I went into this shop. I just

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<v Speaker 3>happened to see it when I got off the bus,

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<v Speaker 3>and I told him I bought the best bargain you

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<v Speaker 3>have in this place, and he said, well, it's that

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<v Speaker 3>one right over there. It was a nineteen forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember. It wasn't a great big one, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was two hundred dollars. So I paid him cash

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<v Speaker 3>for it. He gave me a receipt and I said, now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you'll show me how to ride it, i'll leave.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, if I had have known that you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know to ride that, I wouldn't have sold it

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<v Speaker 3>to you. But he had a big field out behind

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<v Speaker 3>his shop. So we went out there and he showed

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<v Speaker 3>me how you had to change gears with your foot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I rode round and round across that field and

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<v Speaker 3>around it. But I wasn't confident, and I left it

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<v Speaker 3>for about two weeks, and every opportunity I got, I

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<v Speaker 3>went out rode that motorcycle. Of course, we weren't allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to wear pants. We had dresses and Bobby's socks. I

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<v Speaker 3>just took that old dress out of them. In one

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<v Speaker 3>day I was out there. Ride you took about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I just rode out the gate and kept it going.

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<v Speaker 3>Except it was kind of scary at first, but I

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<v Speaker 3>got used to it, loved it, and if I could

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<v Speaker 3>afford it now and we're younger, I'd buy a motorcycle

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<v Speaker 3>right now. It was me. But the only problem I

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<v Speaker 3>ever had with them were the guys in my office.

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<v Speaker 3>There were forty men that worked in my office, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were always wanting to borrow my motorcycle, and I

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<v Speaker 3>let some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I got out of my time, was up re enlisted,

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<v Speaker 3>and they made me get out because I got married.

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<v Speaker 3>Women cannot be married and be in the service. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we came back here and went to college to

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<v Speaker 3>get my ambassador's degree to be an elementary teacher, and

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<v Speaker 3>it only took me nine years because I had jobs

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<v Speaker 3>in between. And the first school I taught in was

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<v Speaker 3>a one room school. I had twenty eight students, boys

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<v Speaker 3>and girls, first grade through eighth grade. Loved every minute

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Did my own challenger work. And we had

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<v Speaker 3>two outside toilets, boys and girls. And my contract read

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<v Speaker 3>that I would scrub the outside toilets with hot soapy

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<v Speaker 3>water every Friday night. We didn't even have running water.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a fun time and uh, I hardly ever

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<v Speaker 3>got to sleep because I was so busy getting lesson

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<v Speaker 3>plans and looking up and doing. And we had a

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<v Speaker 3>set of world books that's how we looked things up.

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<v Speaker 3>And UH to make copies, I had a hectograph machine

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<v Speaker 3>that was like a wooden book. You opened up and

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<v Speaker 3>it had jelly in it, and then you washed that

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<v Speaker 3>jelly and then UH you used an indelible pencil to

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<v Speaker 3>write on paper, and you write that and you wet

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<v Speaker 3>the jelly, put your paper on their rub it, then

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<v Speaker 3>take your paper up and then put a clean sheet

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<v Speaker 3>of paper on it, and that would make one copy.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you had to do that all again, take enough

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<v Speaker 3>copies for however many students you had, and so I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was constantly making copies, and I couldn't let the

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<v Speaker 3>students do it because I said, see the test if

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<v Speaker 3>it were a worksheet. I did let.

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<v Speaker 2>Him do it, and Rebecca would have her son, Doug

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the school year. Becoming a mother

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<v Speaker 2>didn't slow her down, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Doug was born in November and I well, I started

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<v Speaker 3>to school and then I realized, boy, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>So her round went to the hospital and Doug was

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<v Speaker 3>born on Thursday, and I took him to school with

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<v Speaker 3>me on Monday in a clothes basket. So he started

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<v Speaker 3>pretty young, and the younger kids, even boys, would want

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<v Speaker 3>to hold him. Why I was asleep the older girls,

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<v Speaker 3>which said, crucify me for now. But everybody there lived

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<v Speaker 3>on farms and they've blown to four h and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>The older the seventh and eighth grade girls would take

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<v Speaker 3>care of Doug during the day. If he went to sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>we'd let one of the little girls or little boys

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<v Speaker 3>hold it. When I slept. They didn't care for Brodim

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<v Speaker 3>as long as I had school. I did eight years

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<v Speaker 3>in a one room schoolhouse and we had real slate blackboards.

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<v Speaker 3>You could really clean them.

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<v Speaker 2>It should come as no surprise, given her penchant for

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<v Speaker 2>doing the dirty work, so to speak, that Rebecca also

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<v Speaker 2>worked as a garbage woman. She had a unique way

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<v Speaker 2>of handling the job because she couldn't lift the heavy

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<v Speaker 2>bins by hand.

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<v Speaker 3>I ran a house to house and I would get

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<v Speaker 3>the trash can ready because there's always trash around them,

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<v Speaker 3>pick it up and put it in the can, and

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<v Speaker 3>then after the guys would dump it in the truck.

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<v Speaker 3>They just throw the can down on the ground and

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<v Speaker 3>all the trash that's left in it comes out. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would pick all that up and put the lid

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<v Speaker 3>back on it, and people actually came out and they'd

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<v Speaker 3>bring and cookies and ice cream and stuff. Be easy

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<v Speaker 3>to gain weight on a trash route.

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<v Speaker 2>She never stopped teaching, though, even in her work around

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<v Speaker 2>the city.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a grant from the government to get twelve

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<v Speaker 3>high school boys that were in trouble with the law

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<v Speaker 3>and needed their GED, and took them around with me

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<v Speaker 3>and I would sing the multification tables for their GED,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's no way you're going to make those boys

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and work for their GED. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>them actually became the superintendent of the Superintendent of the

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<v Speaker 3>Streets in Yosho. After that, those boys were a pleasure

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<v Speaker 3>to work with, really a pleasure. We never had any

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<v Speaker 3>problems at all. I ain't afraid of anybody or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done it all.

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<v Speaker 1>A special thanks to Katrina Hine and Monty Montgomery for

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<v Speaker 1>the work on that story, and a special thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Cubby Hall. The story of Rebecca cubby Hall, trailblazing woman

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<v Speaker 1>here on our American Story