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Speaker 3: And then Vanessa, I think you have also said that

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Taser Car Sabine Rind Specter five and you

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Speaker 3: are listening to Pod of Rebellion and Niece are my friends?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Dale Gray Spector six, Ezra Bridger And.

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Speaker 4: This is Vanessa Marshall, voice of Harrison Dula and thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for joining us for a Pot of Rebellion.

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Speaker 6: Non spector moderator john Ley Brody always happen to be

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Speaker 6: here and spend time with my friends. I was like

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Speaker 6: channeling spot from Rapacon, my friends. How are you guys?

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Speaker 6: How is everybody?

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Speaker 1: That's great?

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Speaker 3: I'm dealing with some technical difficulties, so apologies, guys, but

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Speaker 6: We will just like the Ghost Crew, we will figure

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Speaker 6: it out. Whatever the articles, we will stay on brand

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Speaker 6: with the show. Star Wars rebels and also our show

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Speaker 6: Pod of Rebelling. We will figure it out because we are,

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Speaker 2: Right, That's right.

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Speaker 1: I could use Chopper's help right now.

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Speaker 7: So today we have rise Eyes.

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Speaker 6: some initial thoughts. Are some really cool guest stars in

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Speaker 6: Oh hey there, Yeah, I'm Ryan Reynolds. I'm just hearing

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Speaker 2: I guess about what do you think about Wrexham?

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Speaker 6: Ryan, Well, here's the thing, Taylor, I'm just like Wrexham

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I just hope we get another Emmy.

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Speaker 7: Don't forget to get Aviation Gin.

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Speaker 4: probably was hyper sensitive to like Jason, you might wanna

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00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: you know, so that that's just my crisis aversion.

440
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 6: You are very much an EmPATH in USA, you are

441
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 6: very much that, so that totally trap well.

442
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 4: But I do think that it was it was the

443
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: scene and not not the actual individual, and that's what

444
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 4: a great actor is. It felt very real to me,

445
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: like kitten might kill this guy, you know. But I

446
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 4: also loved Tailor when he says ooh about the dog

447
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: side and you're like, never heard of it. He's coming

448
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: at you with like a chainsaw, you know, and you're

449
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: just like never heard of it, Like you're the Moxie

450
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 4: the the oh. I just love your character so much,

451
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: and your hair looks sensational. It's like a shade of

452
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 4: black blue and Tia your hair as well. I was

453
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 4: just like, oh, the orange though around the blue it's

454
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: just chef's kiss. So really good hair.

455
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: Thank you.

456
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I had nothing to do with it, but

457
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: I also appreciate their the good hair on the show.

458
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: I will say, speaking of Moxie, I really like help

459
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: at the beginning of this. I'm sorry to go jump

460
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: back to the beginning, but you're like about to fall,

461
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: you ass about to fall to a death, and he

462
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: seems to be in through the windshield and he's just like,

463
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: what's up.

464
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 7: Your ress?

465
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: You've still got time to like throw a little throw

466
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: little her way just in case.

467
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 5: You know, there are and I think I mentioned this

468
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 5: last episode there are literally and maybe it just comes

469
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 5: from drawing. The parallel of that age was sitcom age

470
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 5: in my head, like actually like sitcom beats, Like that

471
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 5: is so like how serious is death if he's about

472
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 5: to like wink at you know, I mean, like that's insane.

473
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: But also then when Zeb grabs him and there or

474
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 5: Hara opens the door and Zeb grabs him and Chopper

475
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 5: comes down, spins the last one and throws it like

476
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 5: they did not need to go show it hit a

477
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: loath cat, but they do, And that to me, like

478
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: it's just the joy of like they're still just kind

479
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 5: of having fun message around like that is a very

480
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: very sick on beat to me.

481
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: Totally our first love cat citing I.

482
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 7: Was about to ask you, I think so.

483
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: I think it may be. Yeah, that was adorable. Chopper

484
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: really went at it like yeah, but you know, the

485
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: other thing Canan's character is is so filled with doubt,

486
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 4: and I see Ezra take it personally, but the inquisitor

487
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 4: really just stuck the knife in the wound where you know,

488
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: saying like, oh, has he taught you nothing? I mean,

489
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 4: there are ways that this scene was crafted to really

490
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 4: just cut deeply into his fear. So it was very

491
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: gratifying at the end of it for you two to

492
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: come together and adorable that you're like, I don't want

493
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 4: the best one, not that you're the worst. It was

494
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: so sweet to see them come together. And I had

495
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: all the like mega og Star Wars feels for the

496
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 4: last image where you know, he's throwing stuff at you.

497
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: It felt very much like a new hope to me

498
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: or tattooinash or something. It just I had all the

499
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: goosebumps at that point. So, in other words, the way

500
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: it was constructed, the irritant of the inquisitor and then

501
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: you guys coming together in the end was like, oh,

502
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: I was really rooting for that by the time we

503
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: got there, and you know, again, hats off to the creators.

504
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 4: It really just was so powerful.

505
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wrote him on notes that Canaan like we

506
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 6: get a glimpse of his like imposter syndrome. Because up

507
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 6: to this point he's so put together. But then and

508
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 6: then we feel for Ezra when he's like, well, Master

509
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 6: Luminard be a better teacher. And it's not that he

510
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 6: doesn't want to be Ezra's master, it's like he feels

511
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 6: he's not worthy of that, and so he wants somebody

512
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 6: like Master Luminar who does have this reputation and is

513
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 6: carries the title of master, whereas was like, no, it's like,

514
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 6: it's not about titles to me. It's like there's something

515
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 6: here and I want to learn from you, so which

516
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 6: I love that you brought up deadlines I wrote in

517
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 6: my notes to like I don't want the best teacher,

518
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 6: I want you, and then you'd just like no, wait, wait, wait,

519
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 6: hold on, let me bring that back. And uh, I

520
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 6: think this is the first mention of Canaan's master as well. Yeah,

521
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 6: Dipa Billiba And I thought so this when I first

522
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: saw this back in twenty fourteen and then rewatching it now.

523
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 6: I love the part where and the inquisitor recognizes who

524
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 6: Canaan was trained by, because as someone like I trained

525
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 6: in martial arts my whole life, and I believe everyone.

526
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 7: Here has to some degree too. If I'm not mistaken.

527
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 6: That is a real thing, like you won't know who

528
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 6: someone trained for their what style they're in, based on

529
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 6: how they come at you. And I thought that tiny

530
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 6: detail which is never really explained, like why he knows,

531
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 6: but that's a real thing with like martial arts and

532
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 6: especially obviously the Jedi arts and the Force, where it

533
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 6: was like, oh, I know who you trained with, I

534
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 6: know your style. I thought that was really cool, and

535
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 6: also like the sense of danger of Okay, who the

536
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 6: f are we up against? If this person knows all

537
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 6: about Kane and Kanan knows nothing about this guy, so

538
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 6: it's really cool and set in the stage of what's

539
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 6: going to be the enemy arc, if you will, of

540
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 6: season one, it was.

541
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Like a little crouching Tiger hitting dragon moment.

542
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

543
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: The bad guys immediately able to identify who this person

544
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: was trained under.

545
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite movies.

546
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: So I can talk about that movie like all day long,

547
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: but we won't do that on this podcast.

548
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll get there a bonus episode, yeah.

549
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: Because I mean there's so much influence of those movies

550
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 6: to Star Wars as we know, so it's all relevant.

551
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 7: We'll get there. I would love to join that deep

552
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 7: die with you.

553
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: I also loved how your character figured out that they

554
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: were that it was a trap, like you, Ezra was

555
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: trying to let you know, and you figured it out

556
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: on your own, and how smarted the elevator. I loved

557
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: seeing the teamwork that existed, whether or not you could

558
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: speak on the comms or not. That was really cool

559
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: to learn, Like, oh, this group is no joke, Like

560
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: you mess with them, you've got the power of zeb

561
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: but you're you, you you killed that. I loved. I

562
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: loved to see that.

563
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun.

564
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, she's she's so I mean,

565
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: it's like, what I love about her most is that,

566
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, when we start to show to being as sixteen,

567
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: right and Ezra as fourteen presumably, and even at such

568
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: a young age, she is so confident and savvy and

569
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: capable and like fearless, which I just think is I'm

570
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: I feel so honored to get to like play a

571
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: character who I am such a fan of, and you know,

572
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: I think is kind of an amazing role model for

573
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: little kids like that, like you can be all the things,

574
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: like you can be an artist and be interested in

575
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: artistic expression and also being well, maybe don't be a

576
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: munition's expert, little kids, but you know something.

577
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: Wildly different, and yet you can be all of those things.

578
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: It's just like a complex.

579
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: Character that has is like a multi faceted whole person,

580
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: even in such a young age.

581
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you start seeing real depth of the characters. And

582
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 5: I know we were saying this earlier, but circling background, Like,

583
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: I thought it was really cool to see the vulnerability

584
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: from Freddy's gipt from Canaan, like it, it's really sweet

585
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: and you side with him a lot, and you get

586
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 5: the depth that I think when we go to these

587
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 5: conventions and we talk to people watch the show, what

588
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 5: I hear most often what people connect to is the

589
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 5: depth of the characters and to what you're saying to you, Like,

590
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: you really get a lot of that through the writing

591
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: and the performance of each character. It's not as surface

592
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: level as.

593
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: It may seem. I don't know at first.

594
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, I mean, like the it's just

595
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: the complexity of each of these characters, right, Like, this

596
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: is the first time we see Canaan.

597
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: You know Canaan's vulnerability, and.

598
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: At first you're like, well, A first, I was like,

599
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: what a jerk? Why is he trying to pass off,

600
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: you know, like pawd off his potential padawan onto this

601
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: other SHEDI And then you realize it's not that he

602
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: wants to it so that he feels like he can't

603
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: do for Ezra what she could do for Ezra. And

604
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: then he like maybe has some self doubt that we

605
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: would have never known beforehand.

606
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: And isn't that such a parallel to life, Like you

607
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: hope that most adults understand this, that when someone is

608
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: acting out like that, it's usually from insecurity or doubt,

609
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: and that's all of us as humans. But his kids

610
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: being able to see this through a story that is

611
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 5: foreign and not directly just didactic saying, hey, when someone

612
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: acts like this, they're probably insecure. They're probably doubting themselves.

613
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: You see it in a real way that it comes

614
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: around full circle. Then you're like, oh, no, he would

615
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: love nothing more than to train this kid. He's just

616
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: a little unsure and he's feeling a little less than

617
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: for what just happened with this inquisitor. And I think

618
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: as a kid, you you know that you pick up

619
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: on it. At least I remember being young being like, Okay,

620
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: this must mean something, And I think that's a beautiful

621
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 5: parallel for younger people watching this show is you get

622
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 5: lessons about life in psychology in a way as well, but.

623
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Wrapped up into like a fun, excite exactly episode where

624
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: it's not just like beating you over the head with it,

625
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: but hopefully you come away with like, Okay, wait a minute,

626
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: I can like ruminate on that for a minute and

627
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 3: hopefully take something away from it that wasn't just like

628
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: pure entertainment.

629
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just good storytelling, y'all.

630
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: That's good storyteking. Sometimes when they're jerk, they're not really

631
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: a jerk, they're just a little scared.

632
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, sweet Taylor Spiritue.

633
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: It's true. I feel like you have to look at

634
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: people in life like that a bit.

635
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: That's a really good life lesson right there. We should

636
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: all take something away from this.

637
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need like the NBC more, you know, shooting

638
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 6: star for that tailor. That's like our pot of rebelling PSAs.

639
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 6: We're going to do a little social clips for that

640
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: and a fun little thing I wrote my notes as well.

641
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 6: Ezra says, it's a trap again. So this is two

642
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 6: times in the series so far. I'm going to start

643
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 6: an unofficial tally it's a trap. So I think this

644
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: is only further validating that this is an Ezra line.

645
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: I know later on lay I said it twice, I

646
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 6: believe in Empire and then Acbar, but they all got

647
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 6: it from Ezra.

648
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 7: Azra did it first, So that's going.

649
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: To be jac is going to shut it down and

650
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: say that it was.

651
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 7: I hope so trying. I'm trying to give them a

652
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 7: little bit of with it.

653
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 6: And then the stging system I believe has ties to

654
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 6: Darth Maul. Again, jac kN fact check is on this,

655
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 6: but when I heard that, I think Darth Maul. I

656
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 6: think it was like in the comic books. And as

657
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 6: we know, we'll get there, we won't get too deep

658
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 6: into that, and our buddy Sam where will eventually come

659
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 6: on the pod as well. But one thing, Look, if

660
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: you've seen the show, you know we're talking about. This

661
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 6: show was so great about wrapping up a lot of

662
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: those lingering storylines are kind of ones that we were sure, like,

663
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 6: weren't sure where they went, and this show does such

664
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 6: a beautiful thing with that. So that when I heard stigy,

665
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, it just makes me wonder was this

666
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 6: a subtle hint that we are going to see em

667
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 6: all again. So I don't know, I just wanted to

668
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 6: throw that out there, like watching it again and knowing

669
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 6: how where it ends up. I couldn't help them. My

670
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: ADHD brain couldn't help but go there and be like,

671
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 6: wait a minute, was that like, because it could have

672
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 6: been any system, Like, it didn't have to be that.

673
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: So that's that's the way my brain was working.

674
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: But it's all just like.

675
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: It's all like you were saying at the top of

676
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: the podcast that like, are there are little gifts for

677
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: a diehard Star Wars fans and then hopefully it's just

678
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: a great story and great characters and great flat lines

679
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: for new you know, those who are new to Star

680
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: Wars and watching Star Wars Rebels as their first sort

681
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: of avenue.

682
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Into Star Wars.

683
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: But like right at the top of the episode, you know,

684
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: he Kanan references master Yoda and that he never understood

685
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: it when master Yoda's and we're like, wait, what Caitaan

686
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: new master Yoda? Like it's just like if you don't

687
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: know anything, that line is like no harm, no foul,

688
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: But if you know, it's like such a little treat right,

689
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: Like it's such a little like, oh wait a second,

690
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: hold on, world's colliding, world's merging.

691
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: It's cool.

692
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: It's again good.

693
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Story telling you all.

694
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 7: And I love that.

695
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: I was just like, wait, how can I do something

696
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: if I don't try? And it's like, yeah, wait a minute.

697
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 6: And then even and I love that. I feel like

698
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 6: the low hanging fruit way to go about that would

699
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: make like, no, what means this in this? But Kane's like, well, actually,

700
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 6: I was always kind of confused by that one. It's cute, sweet,

701
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 6: and then you make it gets in our head too,

702
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 6: like wait, wait, hold on, because when Yoda says it,

703
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 6: and then when it's incompanied by the iconic and you

704
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: know John Williams' score, you know, with the set of

705
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: Dagoon Empire, you're not going to question it. But then

706
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 6: so it's just funny that oh wait a minute, wait

707
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: does that make sense though? But then they do kind

708
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 6: of bring it back full circle at the end where

709
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: Kane is like, I'm not gonna try, I'm just gonna

710
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 6: be your teacher. I'm gonna be your master, and so

711
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 6: like they're saying that they understand it without saying they

712
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 6: understand it. It's again good writing, good storytelling and Tia

713
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: you allude to earlier, like we don't have to beat

714
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 6: the audience over the head with it.

715
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: Audiences are very smart.

716
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 6: I think any creator would benefit in knowing that, like

717
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 6: a lot of times, we're going to figure stuff out.

718
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 6: I mean, don't leave us completely in the dark. But

719
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: if you drop enough bread crumbs, they're gonna follow the

720
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 6: bread crumbstor where you need to go. And the show

721
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: certainly drops a lot of great bread crumbs. And you know,

722
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 6: you walk away with all these episodes that are so

723
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 6: like self contained but at the same time it's all

724
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: part of a bigger story, but you walk away with

725
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: every single one very very satisfied, but wanting more. So

726
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 6: it felt like like doing this rewatch. I feel like

727
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 6: I'm rewatch watching it for the first time all over again.

728
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't Yeah, good, go go. I don't remember

729
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: Zeed hating you so much. He was so hard on you,

730
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: like he means it's hard to train you. It's like,

731
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: whoa easy, my man.

732
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 7: Especially in the last episode. I thoughty'all were cool. You still.

733
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: Life. It feels very brotherly though, because I would say

734
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: if there's a person I love most, it would be

735
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: my brother, and at the same time, we're probably harder

736
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: on each other. Like you heard or read the dialogue

737
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 5: what we say to each other, you'd be like.

738
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: What, but it's not real.

739
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't remember him being so hard on you.

740
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: As it struck me this time.

741
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 5: The question that like is it always raised with me.

742
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, the force. I love the force? What

743
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 5: exactly are the parameters of it? And when Ezra falls

744
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 5: off the ship and I was like, wait, I don't

745
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 5: remember this, just like, how.

746
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Was this gonna happen? I thought?

747
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: I thought like supergol or something was getting and I

748
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: was like, how did that work?

749
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: I was like, can you fly with the force?

750
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: He could grab him that far down and pull him

751
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: back up.

752
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: Thats like you want parameters.

753
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, what cannot be done? It was

754
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 5: like Matilda when you watch Matilda when you're young, like, okay,

755
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: what exactly can she do?

756
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: And what can't she do? But I guess what.

757
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 5: Depending on how strong you are a the force, you

758
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: can extensibly do anything, and you have.

759
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: To have your eyes closed apparently, yeah, exactly to do

760
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 6: it because your eyes can deceive you, young one, So.

761
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: You have to trust in the forest. Have you learned nothing?

762
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm trying to I'm trying to go back to

763
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: that mindset that Ezra was in season one, and I'm skeptical.

764
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 5: I'm skeptical. I like how everyone ELSEO tries to coax.

765
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: Well that foreshadows down the line. But like even in

766
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: the middle of a battle, uh, the Inquizords like, come on,

767
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 5: come to the dark set.

768
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 7: Start me up, all right, everybody?

769
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 6: So if there's not anything else, I think for coming

770
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 6: up on our favorite part of the program. So it

771
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 6: is time, per fect check with our guy jac What

772
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: do you got for us today?

773
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 8: Okay, if you are a fan of Luminara and dully,

774
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 8: we're going to do a little bio here.

775
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: Let's go.

776
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 8: So Luminar was imprisoned on the Sigean Prime system. The

777
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: popular belief was that Luminar was killed on Kashik during

778
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 8: Order sixty six. She was taken prisoner held by the Empire.

779
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 8: She was actually killed in her cell, apparently by the

780
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 8: Grand Inquisitor, who mummified her remains. And so what where

781
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 8: we come up on this version of Luminara In here

782
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 8: it is a hologram, and what Canaan is doing is

783
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 8: sensing the mummified remains of Luminara, who was killed somewhere

784
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 8: between Order sixty six and Star Wars Rebels Rise of

785
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 8: the Old Masters. Here Luminar's first appearances in Star Wars

786
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 8: episode two, and Vanessa mentioned we get some backstory on

787
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 8: Luminara in Tales of the Jedi. One of the thoughts

788
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 8: on Tales of the Jedi and why they brought that

789
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 8: up is to contrast the difference between the choices that

790
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 8: her padawan Barris makes with joining the Inquisitors versus Luminara

791
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 8: was apparently given the same choice and chose to die

792
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 8: with the Republic rather than join the Inquisitors and prolong

793
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 8: her own life, which is the choice that Barris ends

794
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 8: up making in Tales of the Jedi. So there you go.

795
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 8: Now you know everything about Luminara. Undoui Tia had mentioned

796
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 8: laser sword. They referred to it as a laser sword.

797
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 8: I just wanted to point out in Star Wars episode one,

798
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 8: Anakin refers to Qui Gon's lightsaber as a laser sword

799
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 8: when they're when he asks him if he's a Jedi.

800
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 8: So that was the first canonical way of describing a

801
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 8: lightsaber as a laser sword. And then of course, Luke Skywalker,

802
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 8: I think, says the same thing in Last Jedi as well,

803
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 8: to it as a laser sword. When he's talking to

804
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 8: right lightsaber changing lengths, this is referred to as a

805
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 8: dual phase lightsaber. The first time it was referred to

806
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 8: as a dual phase lightsabers in the Kevin J. Anderson

807
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 8: book Dark Apprentice, which came out in like nineteen ninety

808
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 8: four ninety five. I think the character Kip Duran had

809
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 8: built a lightsaber that was dual phase with the help

810
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 8: of ancient Sith lord x Arkun. But that's a whole other, long,

811
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 8: long comic book backstory there. But I think the first

812
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 8: time it ever happened where they were as a lightsaber

813
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 8: changing length was in the nineteen seventy eight first Expanded

814
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: Universe novel which was called Splinter of the Mind's Eye

815
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 8: by Alan Dean Foster that came out in between A

816
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 8: New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. I believe Darth Vader's

817
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 8: lightsaber can do it in that book. So while this

818
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 8: is the first probably canonical appearance of that, it was

819
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 8: set up in Star Wars Legends all the way back

820
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 8: before Empire Strikes Back. Also fun trivia tidbit when you're

821
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 8: talking Star Wars with your friends. Splinter of the Mind's

822
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 8: Eye is the first time they mentioned Kyber Crystal at all,

823
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 8: which was later gone has gone on to be you know,

824
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 8: the Death Star and all the Lightsabers and the planet

825
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 8: Ilum and all of that stuff. It all started in

826
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 8: nineteen seventy eight with Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Thermal detonator,

827
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 8: as far as I was able to devise, this is

828
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 8: the first time we see a thermal detonator explode in

829
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 8: canon or anything. Yeah, obviously in the video games it's

830
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 8: been happening forever. I know in the Super Star Wars games,

831
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 8: let's throwing thermal detonators all over the place, But this

832
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 8: is the first time in canon that we see one

833
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 8: actually explode. You guys mentioned the first Lothcat sighting It

834
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 8: is indeed this episode, so good memory there. And then John,

835
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 8: you mentioned Darth Maul about the Stigian system. Yes, it

836
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 8: did appear in a comic book about Darth Maul, Son

837
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 8: of Dafimir, episode issue one, which was released May twenty first,

838
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 8: twenty fourteen. So the comic book actually was referencing rebels,

839
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 8: not the other way around.

840
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 7: That was amazing as all right, as usual.

841
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: I would like to just believe and please Jac never

842
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: told me if I'm wrong that like Jac doesn't have

843
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: to look up.

844
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: Any of this.

845
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: It all is in his head and he just has

846
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: to like go into the vault and retrieve the facts

847
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: that we need for each particular episode.

848
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: But like there's no googling. It just lives in his brain.

849
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 8: There's I mean, ear muffs tea, but a lot of

850
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 8: I would say about half the I would say about

851
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 8: half the stuff I'm able to pull up and half

852
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 8: the stuff when it's like specific to an episode or

853
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 8: specific to a comic book issue, I have to like

854
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 8: kind of make sure that uh, like I know enough

855
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 8: to know what to look for to make sure that

856
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 8: I'm right and I don't show up and say something

857
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 8: that's going to get us flamed on the pot of

858
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 8: rebellion socials.

859
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 7: We don't want to find those subreddit threads.

860
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: But the fact is that the.

861
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Stuff is in there.

862
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: You're just looking for like confirmation and fact, like you're

863
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: just making sure you're not like spreading any kind of misinformation.

864
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 8: Well, and we're fact I'm fact checking live Like this

865
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 8: isn't recorded after we've done the episode and things, so

866
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 8: this is literally like as you guys finished talking, we're

867
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 8: jumping on and fact checking.

868
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: So that is why it is so impressive.

869
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: This was another incredible chat we had. I love deep

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